Re: hp or Toshiba laptop?

2006-09-08 Thread Parv
Sorry for using somebody else's reply to reply to OP as I had
deleted the OP.

in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Joel Dahl
thusly...

 On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 08:38 -0400, Christian Lopez de Castilla
 Wagner wrote:
 
  I'm looking into buying a new laptop in the next week
...
  Toshiba Tecra A6-SP3032 (Core Duo 1.83GHz, Intel PRO/Wireless
  3945ABG (802.11a/b/g)
...

I happen to be currently using Toshiba Satellite A105-40xx (work
computer), which cost around $800-900 from Circuit City or Best Buy
(US chain stores).  After few weeks of usage, the keyboard turns out
to be rather crappy.  When i type -- my typing speed is around 25
wpm  not much of a touch typist -- the keys (more likely the
spring) whine as if they need lubrication  have become rather
loose.

On another Toshiba Satellite, about a year old (as overheard from a
coworker; I used it for 2-3 months), Fn key has become so
ridiculously loose it behaves like a loose leaf paper covering a
sauce pan.

So, be mindful of Tecra's keyboard.

OTOH, two year old IBM Thinkpad T42's ($1600) keyboard is working
wonderfully; five old Dell Inspiron 5000e's (a thousand some dollars
at the time) keyboard is still better than above mentioned new
Toshiba Satellite.


  - Parv

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isc-dhcpd.sh rc script and jails

2006-09-08 Thread Christopher Cowart
Hello,

The port for isc-dhcp3-server has config options for enabling FreeBSD
process jails. Basically, through a series of command line arguments
that are generated by the isc-dhcpd.sh script, the chroot is
auto-generated when you start the service and dhcpd makes the syscall to
jail itself. This is actually really nifty and makes the process of
running dhcpd in a thin jail brainless.

The problem happens when I run isc-dhcpd.sh stop: 
dhcpd not running? (check /var/jails/dhcpd/var/run/dhcpd/dhcpd.pid).

Well, I know better. dhcpd is clearly running with the pid indicated in
the pid file. After investigating /etc/rc.subr, I've determined the
cause (where $JID is the jid of the running rc script and $_jid is the
jid of the process, determined by ps output):
  if [ $JID -eq $_jid ];

Therefore, I cannot run isc-dhcpd.sh stop on the host system. However,
given that I'm using a thin jail, I can't just log in to the jail to
call the rc script. Further, the rc script was written to be called from
the host machine.

My question is how do I get around this? I'd prefer not to hack rc.subr
unless it's a community-useable patch that can be incorporated back into
the official sources. One option would be to allow rc scripts to set
some sort of CHECK_JAILS variable and to implement the necessary logic
to handle it in rc.subr. Is there a better solution?

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Re: PERC 5/E SAS RAID in Dell PowerEdge 1950/2950

2006-09-08 Thread Riemer Palstra
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:07:06AM +0800, ke han wrote:
 Have you done an install of FreeBSD 6.1 on a 1950/2950? 

Yes, 1950.

 Does the  install kernel automatically recognize RAID arrays you have
 setup  with the PERC 5 bios?

Yes.

mfi0: Dell PERC 5/i mem 0xd80f-0xd80f,0xfc4e-0xfc4f
irq 78 at device 14.0 on pci2

[ ... ]

mfid0: MFI Logical Disk on mfi0
mfid0: 69375MB (142082047 sectors) RAID

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what means: sockstat: sysctl(): No such process

2006-09-08 Thread tequnix

hallo list

while running 

[ $(sockstat | grep -c saslauthd) -gt 90 ]  /usr/local/etc/rc.d/saslauthd 
restart

via cron (/etc/crontab, as root) (why i do this is of no importance
for this question), i get from time to time - about 3-4 times a day,
cronjob runs every 11 minutes - the message:

sockstat: sysctl(): No such process


i do not understand why i get this only sometimes, and what this
exactly means. 

i hope someone can help me and explain this behaviour 

thanks,
reinhard


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Re: bsnmpd: send: Connection refused

2006-09-08 Thread Feodor Trubetskoy

On 29.07.2006 01:31, James Long wrote:


 traphost := localhost
 trapport := 162



When I start bsnmpd, I get

# /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd start
Starting bsnmpd.
snmpd[5474]: send: Connection refused
^C#

What is causing the Connection refused message?   


Probably the reason of the message is that bsnmpd fails to send a trap 
to localhost port 162 when it starts.


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Hell Installing OpenLDAP/Berkeley-DB/Java

2006-09-08 Thread Ted Johnson
Hi;
I tried to install OpenLDAP, but it needs Berkeley-DB and complained that the 
version installed was incompatible. I tried compiling it without Berkeley 
(using GNU instead) but it wouldn't. I tried installing  Berkeley DB without 
Java (for simplicity's sake), but that didn't work. I tried moving that 
installation to where the ports would be but still no go. So I tried a make of 
the berkeley-db port but that complained it needed a Java plug-in that had to 
be loaded manually because of 
licensing restrictions. So I went to the page it stated, agreed to the license, 
downloaded it and tried to install:
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/cgi-bin/download?download=diablo-caffe-freebsd6-i386-1.5.0_07-b00.tar.bz2
I un-bzip2'd it, then untarred it, then entered it and unzipped the sun.zip 
file, and now I'm lost. There are no instructions! There's a README.html file 
which told me to go to this page:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/install.html
but there's nothing of substance there. It only tells one how to install Linux 
binaries or RPMs, but I'm having to install from source. Good grief! Has anyone 
been through this crap before? What do I do?
TIA,
beno2

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How do I give 2 parameters to programs in an unix enviroment?

2006-09-08 Thread Lasse Edlund

If I have two files foo and bar and try to run diff on them I write:
$diff foo bar
I can also write
$cat foo | diff - bar
But how do I give a program two (2) commands? not only to diff
but to any program that wants double input...
I wanna do
$cat foo | cat bar | diff - -
especially with echo commands that would be handy so I dont have to
create files!
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Re: How do I give 2 parameters to programs in an unix enviroment?

2006-09-08 Thread Matt Emmerton

 If I have two files foo and bar and try to run diff on them I write:
 $diff foo bar
 I can also write
 $cat foo | diff - bar
 But how do I give a program two (2) commands? not only to diff
 but to any program that wants double input...
 I wanna do
 $cat foo | cat bar | diff - -
 especially with echo commands that would be handy so I dont have to
 create files!

You don't.  Recall that | is the pipe operator, and like in real life,
there's one input and one output.

Pipes used on the command line are for all intents and purposes unnamed,
and you can only build up one pipeline.
That's why named pipes were invented, so that you could have multiple pipes
and refer to them by name (instead of implicitly).

But in your case, using named pipes is really no different than using files.

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Re: OpenOffice build crashes the compiler

2006-09-08 Thread backyard


--- Perry Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone seen this and know how to get past it?
 Configuring out the failing component would be fine,
 if possible, since I really only need the word
 processor.
 
 Making:
 ../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/slo/SlideSorterView.obj
 g++-ooo -fmessage-length=0 -c -Os
 -fno-strict-aliasing   -fvisibility=hidden -I. 
 -I../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/inc/slsview

-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/offuh
 -I../inc -I../../inc -I../../../../inc/pch
 -I../../../../inc -I../../../../unx/inc
 -I../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/inc -I.

-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/stl

-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/external

-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc

-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/unxfbsdi/inc

-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/inc

-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/res

-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/stl

-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/inc/Xp31
 -I/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/include -I/u!
  sr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/include/
 In file included from

/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/sd/source/ui/slidesorter/view/SlideSorterView.cxx:54:
 ../../inc/DrawDocShell.hxx: In member function `void
 sd::DrawDocShell::SetSpecialProgress(SfxProgress*,
 Link*)':
 ../../inc/DrawDocShell.hxx:189: warning: declaration
 of 'pProgress' shadows a member of 'this'
 g++-ooo: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus)
 Please submit a full bug report.
 See URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html for
 instructions.
 dmake:  Error code 1, while making
 '../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/slo/SlideSorterView.obj'
 '---* tg_merge.mk *---'
 
 ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making

/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/sd/source/ui/slidesorter/view
 dmake:  Error code 1, while making
 'build_instsetoo_native'
 '---* *---'
 *** Error code 255
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0.
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http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2005-March/021822.html

is an old link but has a patch.

http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2003-10/msg02538.php

sugests some missing symlinks might be the culprit.
Please let me know is either of these resolve the
isses, I'm looking to get OpenOffice built this
weekend after I update my basic system... Both of
these reference that Error 65280

some answers also suggest you might be running out of
space in the build directory. You'll need at least
1.8G to build Openoffice (/usr/ports); I say at least
because when I built it for Gentoo on my P4 it used up
more like 5G and took 8-10 hours to build. 


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Re: How do I give 2 parameters to programs in an unix enviroment?

2006-09-08 Thread backyard


--- Lasse Edlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I have two files foo and bar and try to run
 diff on them I write:
 $diff foo bar
 I can also write
 $cat foo | diff - bar
 But how do I give a program two (2) commands? not
 only to diff
 but to any program that wants double input...
 I wanna do
 $cat foo | cat bar | diff - -
 especially with echo commands that would be handy so
 I dont have to
 create files!
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diff foo bar
is the the way a contruct like
(cat foo; cat bar| diff - -)
may work but I doubt it because they both are writing
to the same STDOUT and so - - is more then likely
invalid.

(echo random junkola  foo)  (cat foo  bar)
or
(echo random junkola  foo)  (cp foo bar)
would be just as good.
would echo the same thing to two files. 

I think what you want might be 

diff `cat foo` `cat bar`

which is the the quote on the tilde key. check 
man eval

if I'm using the right quote this will evaluate the
command in the ` ` and pass its STDOUT as a parameter.
For large files this might fail because of the
limitation to the command line length, I'm not
certain.

the best thing might be look in /etc/rc for the last
line which will be something like:
echo `date`

those are the quotes you want and this is the only way
to do what I think you're asking.

-brian
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Re: what means: sockstat: sysctl(): No such process

2006-09-08 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Sep 07), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 hallo list
 
 while running 
 
 [ $(sockstat | grep -c saslauthd) -gt 90 ]  /usr/local/etc/rc.d/saslauthd 
 restart
 
 via cron (/etc/crontab, as root) (why i do this is of no importance
 for this question), i get from time to time - about 3-4 times a day,
 cronjob runs every 11 minutes - the message:
 
 sockstat: sysctl(): No such process
 
 i do not understand why i get this only sometimes, and what this
 exactly means. 

Sockstat first gets a list of all open sockets, then looks up the
command name for each one.  If the process has exited before the name
is looked up, you get the warning, and sockstat prints ?? as the
process name.  You can quiet it by redirecting stderr to /dev/null:
sockstat 2/dev/null

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Re: How do I give 2 parameters to programs in an unix enviroment?

2006-09-08 Thread David King
Here's an example using zsh (I assume it's the same using bash, but  
different using tcsh or sh):


diff (find /usr/local -type f | sort) (for each in /var/db/pkg/*/ 
+CONTENTS; do grep -v '^@' $each; done | sort)


This does a diff(1) of what /var/db/pkg says that /usr/local should  
look like, and what it *really* looks like (note that it would need  
some tuning in order to actually be useful, but you get the idea)


This uses the () operator. What the () operator does is create a  
named pipe in /tmp, execute the commands contained in the parenthesis  
in a subshell, and connect the stdout of the subshell into that named  
pipe. So it's sort of like using temp files, but you don't have to  
clean up after yourself. There's another, similar operator that does  
force it to use temp files, but I can never remember what it is :)  
Check the manpages for your shell


Note that not all programs support using named pipes instead of  
files, since they expect to be able to do things like rewind the  
current position in the file descriptor. diff(1) looks to support it  
okay, though.


A simplified version of your example would look like this:

diff (cat foo) (cat bar)



On 08 Sep 2006, at 06:10, Lasse Edlund wrote:

If I have two files foo and bar and try to run diff on them I  
write:

$diff foo bar
I can also write
$cat foo | diff - bar
But how do I give a program two (2) commands? not only to diff
but to any program that wants double input...
I wanna do
$cat foo | cat bar | diff - -
especially with echo commands that would be handy so I dont have to
create files!



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Re: How do I give 2 parameters to programs in an unix enviroment?

2006-09-08 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Sep 08), David King said:
 Here's an example using zsh (I assume it's the same using bash, but
 different using tcsh or sh):
 
 diff (find /usr/local -type f | sort) (for each in /var/db/pkg/*/ 
 +CONTENTS; do grep -v '^@' $each; done | sort)
 
 This does a diff(1) of what /var/db/pkg says that /usr/local should
 look like, and what it *really* looks like (note that it would need
 some tuning in order to actually be useful, but you get the idea)
 
 This uses the () operator. What the () operator does is create a
 named pipe in /tmp, execute the commands contained in the parenthesis
 in a subshell, and connect the stdout of the subshell into that named
 pipe. So it's sort of like using temp files, but you don't have to
 clean up after yourself. There's another, similar operator that does
 force it to use temp files, but I can never remember what it is :)
 Check the manpages for your shell

Just for the archives, The =() operator puts the output to a temp file
and returns the filename to the main command.  It has to wait for the
subshell to finish before running the main command, though.

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mailgraph doesnt start

2006-09-08 Thread Miguel
Hi, i just installed mailgraph from ports, the install process finished 
without any error, i added


mailgraph_enable=YES

to rc.conf, but mailgraph doesnt start:

mailfilter# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailgraph start
Starting mailgraph.
mailfilter# echo $?
0
mailfilter# ps aux | grep mail
root  6570  0.0  0.2  4892  1188  p0  RV8:47AM   0:00.00 grep 
mail (csh)

mailfilter#

I dont get any error in /var/log/messages, if i run manually (from a 
root console), it starts ok,

what can i check?
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Re: mailgraph doesnt start

2006-09-08 Thread Michael Landin Hostbaek
Miguel (mmiranda) writes:
 Hi, i just installed mailgraph from ports, the install process finished 
 without any error, i added
 
 mailgraph_enable=YES
 
 to rc.conf, but mailgraph doesnt start:
 
 mailfilter# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailgraph start
 Starting mailgraph.

Just to check that you did not mispell something in /etc/rc.conf - try
starting it, like so:

/usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailgraph forcestart

/mich

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Changing Default Editor in profile

2006-09-08 Thread Huy Ton That

under my home directory for root under .profile I added the line:

EDITOR=pico;export EDITOR

where no such line existed for EDITOR before; this line exists in my
personal account that I use and my default for external launched editors is
now pico such that I can edit crontab stuff easily.  However, when I ssh in
and then su, I try to run crontab only to find it is still booting into 'vi'
by default.  Any ideas how I can get this loaded?
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Re: Changing Default Editor in profile

2006-09-08 Thread backyard


--- Huy Ton That [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 under my home directory for root under .profile I
 added the line:
 
 EDITOR=pico;export EDITOR
 
 where no such line existed for EDITOR before; this
 line exists in my
 personal account that I use and my default for
 external launched editors is
 now pico such that I can edit crontab stuff easily. 
 However, when I ssh in
 and then su, I try to run crontab only to find it is
 still booting into 'vi'
 by default.  Any ideas how I can get this loaded?
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yeah, I'm not sure what the switch is for su I think
its -w check man, but you have to load your profile
for root which is a switch to su. by default it uses
the profile of the user running su. the switch loads
the profile for the user your su'ing to.

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Re: Changing Default Editor in profile

2006-09-08 Thread Dominique Goncalves

Hi,

On 9/8/06, Huy Ton That [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

under my home directory for root under .profile I added the line:

EDITOR=pico;export EDITOR

where no such line existed for EDITOR before; this line exists in my
personal account that I use and my default for external launched editors is
now pico such that I can edit crontab stuff easily.  However, when I ssh in
and then su, I try to run crontab only to find it is still booting into 'vi'
by default.  Any ideas how I can get this loaded?


You have to use su -, if you want load your root's environnement.
su(1) for more explications.

HTH

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Re: Changing Default Editor in profile

2006-09-08 Thread Huy Ton That

Thank you sirs!!!  That did the trick!


On 9/8/06, Dominique Goncalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

On 9/8/06, Huy Ton That [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 under my home directory for root under .profile I added the line:

 EDITOR=pico;export EDITOR

 where no such line existed for EDITOR before; this line exists in my
 personal account that I use and my default for external launched editors
is
 now pico such that I can edit crontab stuff easily.  However, when I ssh
in
 and then su, I try to run crontab only to find it is still booting into
'vi'
 by default.  Any ideas how I can get this loaded?

You have to use su -, if you want load your root's environnement.
su(1) for more explications.

HTH
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Re: Xfce 4.3.90.2 + Xorg 6.9.0 with Compositor == SUPER buggy ?

2006-09-08 Thread Frank Staals

Jud wrote:

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:58:49 +0200, Frank Staals [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
  
I recently decided to have some fun with the latest Xfce release ( or 
well; when I installed it it was, at the moment there is an RC1 ) and 
composite stuff. Allthough what I found out was that xfwm4 crashed when 
I enabled transparency for inactive windows and moved some aterms 
around. So my question was if someone else is running Xfce 4.4 beta and 
has the same problems ? And if someone has a solusion for it. I guess 
that the xorg port is the weakest link ATM. I can't imagine people 
actually using such composite settings when the wm crashes every 15 
minutes ... so I asume it runs better with xorg7.  So a sort of second 
question would be: is there an easy way of installing, but as important 
deinstalling, Xorg7 ?



IIANM, Xorg 6.9 is exactly the same as 7.0, just packaged all together
(6.9) rather than in separate modules (7.0).  Thus I believe the
assumption that installing 7.0 would improve matters is incorrect.

FYI, RC1 without compositing enabled works flawlessly so far for me on
-CURRENT.  I'm running Xorg 6.9, portupgraded less than a week ago.

Jud
  
Hmm then I realy think the compositor needs a lot of work. When I enable 
the fancy effects xfce slows down to about 50% of it's speed. And indeed 
; without compositor it runs flawlessly here too.


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Re: Changing Default Editor in profile

2006-09-08 Thread Gerard Seibert
Huy Ton That wrote:

 under my home directory for root under .profile I added the line:
 
 EDITOR=pico;export EDITOR
 
 where no such line existed for EDITOR before; this line exists in my
 personal account that I use and my default for external launched editors is
 now pico such that I can edit crontab stuff easily.  However, when I ssh in
 and then su, I try to run crontab only to find it is still booting into 'vi'
 by default.  Any ideas how I can get this loaded?

Try using: su -m instead.


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~/.profile and tcsh (was: Changing Default Editor in profile)

2006-09-08 Thread Karol Kwiatkowski
  under my home directory for root under .profile I added the line:
 
  EDITOR=pico;export EDITOR

 You have to use su -, if you want load your root's environnement.
 su(1) for more explications.

 Thank you sirs!!!  That did the trick!

Hmmm, interesting. I was under the impression that ~/.profile file is
used by sh and not by tcsh. Indeed, I can't find it being mentioned in
tcsh(1) manpage. Am I missing something? Pointers to TFM welcomed, of
course :)

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Re: Changing Default Editor in profile

2006-09-08 Thread Jerold McAllister
Dominique Goncalves writes: 

Hi, 


On 9/8/06, Huy Ton That [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
under my home directory for root under .profile I added the line: 

EDITOR=pico;export EDITOR 


where no such line existed for EDITOR before; this line exists in my
personal account that I use and my default for external launched editors 
is
now pico such that I can edit crontab stuff easily.  However, when I ssh 
in
and then su, I try to run crontab only to find it is still booting into 
'vi'

by default.  Any ideas how I can get this loaded?


You have to use su -, if you want load your root's environnement.
su(1) for more explications. 



That is the specific answer to your question, but here is an additional
caution. 


You do not want to have the main root account set up with anything
but the minimal stuff that will be available in single user mode with
only the / partition mounted just in case you have trouble and need it.
For it to be root it needs to have UID = 0 and best to have GID = 0.
It doesn't need to be named root. 


So, I would suggest making your own separate root account - maybe named
something like domr or domR or something else convenient and then give
that account all the nice things like your favorite shell and editor, etc
so you can use that as root when all the system is up and happy and leave
the main root with /bin/sh as shell and /usr/bin/vi as editor, etc.
I usually even put a copy of vi in /bin just for those occasions. 

Just a suggestion, 

jerry 


HTH

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Re: FreeBSD Shells

2006-09-08 Thread Jerold McAllister
Joshua Lewis writes: 


My shell mysteriously changed. I don't know what port changed the shell
but how do I put it back to normal. I liked how when I was logged in or
su'ed to root I had a prompt with the computer name and a hash sign. Now
I have a percent sign and when I try to change the shell with chsh I can
not get it to work anymore. 


I am doing chsh -s /bin/sh is that correct? Is that the default BSD
shell? 


It sounds like either your .profile (for sh) or your .cshrc (for tcsh)
is what got changed.That is where the prompt will be determined by
the setting of the 'prompt' variable. 


But, to your specific question, you should be able to set your shell
using chsh.   I think you only need the -s if you call it by 'chpass'
instead of chsh, but I am not sure. 


If you have root access, then you can also change your shell in the passwd
file directly using  vipw(8).   Just use vipw to edit the shell field
in the passwd file entry and write and exit out of vipw.  If you do not
have root access, then you cannot modify it with vipw. 


If there was no shell specified in the shell field, the system would have
given you /bin/sh by default.   If the shell you are trying to change to
or from is not listed in //etc/shells, then it will not allow you to
make the change with the chsh command.   If you have root access, you can
modify the content of /etc/shells to add any that you need to use. 


jerry

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Re: 6.1 recommended instead of 5.x for new installations [was: Efficacy vs. friendliness]

2006-09-08 Thread Jerold McAllister
Pete Slagle writes: 

jdow wrote: 


I noticed that FreeBSD 5.x was somewhat quicker than that to get up,
running, and up to date.


I can't think of a good reason to use FreeBSD 5.x for a new
installation; 6.1 contains so many reliability and performance
improvements that it is the clear choice over 5.5. 

(Upgrades are of course a more complicated question.) 



The reason I have is that none of the AFS clients will run on 6.1, but
they are supposed to run under 5.x.I am about to embark on a test of
it under 5.5 this afternoon.   I know OpenAFS fails under 6.1.   Although
it seems to build OK - and even starts up, as soon as I try to go to a
directory, it crashes the whole system with a partial error message from
lock manager. Something similar is true of the ARLA AFS client port. 

So,  there can be a reason, though it is not overall system quality. 

jerry 


ps.  If anyone knows enough about the new locks (or locks in general), it
   would be nice to have someone make the changes for the FreeBSD 6.xx
   versions of OpenAFS and Arla.   It is really beyond my knowledge. 


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Re: How do I give 2 parameters to programs in an unix enviroment?

2006-09-08 Thread David King

Here's an example using zsh (I assume it's the same using bash, but
different using tcsh or sh): [...]
This uses the () operator. [...]
There's another, similar operator that does force it to use temp  
files,

but I can never remember what it is :) [...]

Just for the archives, The =() operator puts the output to a temp file
and returns the filename to the main command.  It has to wait for the
subshell to finish before running the main command, though.


Ah, thanks, I'll try to remember that this time :)

Note that the =() operator, because it uses regular files, doesn't  
have the issue that some programs won't know how to deal with it  
(that is, because they are regular files, they support things like  
fseek() etc). The downside, as Dan said, is that the entire command  
line isn't executed until all of the subshells within =() operators  
complete (so the example I gave could take a long time to have any  
output). Also note that the =() operator will put its temp files in / 
tmp by default (unless you set your shell to put them elsewhere), so  
if you have a command with a lot of output, make sure that your /tmp  
can take all of it.


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Network mail

2006-09-08 Thread hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)
I'm old school. Back in my day, we didn't have the Internet we have  
today, and our UNIX boxes could mail over the network we had strung.  
I don't care what mail app I use. I just want to be able to have two  
boxes, boxbox and snowy, for example, and be able to 'mail boxbox'  
from snowy and vice versa. This has to be on a system-wide basis, so  
people on my shell server can do it easily. Any ideas? A quick tutorial?

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Re: Network mail

2006-09-08 Thread Jerold McAllister
hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) writes: 

I'm old school. Back in my day, we didn't have the Internet we have  
today, and our UNIX boxes could mail over the network we had strung.  I 
don't care what mail app I use. I just want to be able to have two  boxes, 
boxbox and snowy, for example, and be able to 'mail boxbox'  from snowy 
and vice versa. This has to be on a system-wide basis, so  people on my 
shell server can do it easily. Any ideas? A quick tutorial?

--
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If you have some network connection between the two boxes (and any others)
Just follow the handbook and set up sendmail on each.   If you do not want
Email from anywhere else, then set it up to accept mail connections only
from those two boxen. 


You don't need any of the other fancy stuff out there unless you see some
feature that you just gotta have. 


jerry

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trouble building portupgrade.

2006-09-08 Thread Gary Kline

I'd like to install mostly Pacakges, not build from src.  
pkg_add -r fails with 6.1, so I'm trying to install 
portupgrade.  Can anybody explain this::


===   Running ldconfig
/sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg
ldconfig: warning: /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg: No such file or directory
===   Installing ldconfig configuration file
cannot create /usr/local/libdata/ldconfig/portupgrade: No such file or
directory
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade.
*** Error code 1


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Re: OpenOffice build crashes the compiler

2006-09-08 Thread Jerold McAllister
Perry Hutchison writes: 


Anyone seen this and know how to get past it?
Configuring out the failing component would be fine,
if possible, since I really only need the word processor. 


Making: ../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/slo/SlideSorterView.obj
g++-ooo -fmessage-length=0 -c -Os -fno-strict-aliasing   -fvisibility=hidden 
-I.  -I../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/inc/slsview 
-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/offuh
 -I../inc -I../../inc -I../../../../inc/pch -I../../../../inc 
-I../../../../unx/inc -I../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/inc -I. 
-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/stl
 
-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/external
 
-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc
 -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/unxfbsdi/inc 
-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/inc 
-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/res 
-I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/stl
 -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/inc/Xp31 
-I/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/include -I/

u!

 sr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/include/
In file included from 
/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/sd/source/ui/slidesorter/view/SlideSorterView.cxx:54:
../../inc/DrawDocShell.hxx: In member function `void 
sd::DrawDocShell::SetSpecialProgress(SfxProgress*, Link*)':
../../inc/DrawDocShell.hxx:189: warning: declaration of 'pProgress' shadows a 
member of 'this'
g++-ooo: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus)
Please submit a full bug report.
See URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html for instructions.
dmake:  Error code 1, while making 
'../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/slo/SlideSorterView.obj'
'---* tg_merge.mk *---' 


ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making 
/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/sd/source/ui/slidesorter/view
dmake:  Error code 1, while making 'build_instsetoo_native'
'---* *---'
*** Error code 255 


Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0.


I did once see something that looked a little like this when a build
ran out of disk space.  But, I seem to remember there was a disk full
or some such message mixed in with the others and I don't see it here.
So, check your disk space and after that, good luck finding someone who
knows more about it. 

jerry 


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Re: what means: sockstat: sysctl(): No such process

2006-09-08 Thread Reinhard Weismann
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:18:32 -0500
Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the last episode (Sep 07), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  hallo list
  
  while running 
  
  [ $(sockstat | grep -c saslauthd) -gt 90 ]  /usr/local/etc/rc.d/saslauthd 
  restart
  
  via cron (/etc/crontab, as root) (why i do this is of no importance
  for this question), i get from time to time - about 3-4 times a day,
  cronjob runs every 11 minutes - the message:
  
  sockstat: sysctl(): No such process
  
  i do not understand why i get this only sometimes, and what this
  exactly means. 
 
 Sockstat first gets a list of all open sockets, then looks up the
 command name for each one.  If the process has exited before the name
 is looked up, you get the warning, and sockstat prints ?? as the
 process name.  You can quiet it by redirecting stderr to /dev/null:
 sockstat 2/dev/null

thank you for explanation. i will quieten it by redirecting stderr as
you suggested.

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How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions

2006-09-08 Thread Greg Lehey

How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
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Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $

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III:  Should I ask -questions or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

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===

This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the
questions (the hackers).

   Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking
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   yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
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In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
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In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
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The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda

2006-09-08 Thread Greg Lehey
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.  The result is that most leading edge
computer books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception.  Inevitably, a
number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its
predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD.  Two of these have been reprinted
with corrections.  I maintain a series of errata pages.  Start at
http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata
information.

Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF
form.  Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to
download the entire book.  See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ 
for more information.

Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing?
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Clevo D900K and 64 bit FreeBSD support???

2006-09-08 Thread backyard
I've been looking into replacing my current
laptop/desktop with a Clevo D900K, AMD-64 machine. I'm
just curious if anyone out there has any experience
getting FreeBSD up and running on this machine and at
what capacity (card reader, 8.1 sound card,
WLAN+Bluetooth, Hardware RAID, etc.) I was going to go
with the Nvidia Quadro graphics card and am curious on
the status of 64bit native nvidia drivers. I know it
wasn't/isn't supported as of yet. Also I was hoping to
take an existing i386 system and move it to the 64bit
system. Can I by properly specifying the environment
rebuild an i386 system to 64bit? Or am I better off/
have too install a fresh 64bit system? I would imagine
this could tick off a few ports like portupgrade that
would make rebuilding tricky at best.

I've linked to and included the machine spec for those
savy enough to look at the general hardware and know
it's level of support.

thanks,

-brian


http://www.clevo.com.tw/products/D900K.asp

link might make the following look a little nicer

D900K Specification

CPU
#12290; AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 Processor
3800+/4200+/4600+
#12288; (2.00~2.40GHz, 1MB L2 cache, socket 939)
#12290; AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 Processor 4400+/4800+
#12288; (2.20~2.40GHz, 2MB L2 cache, socket 939)
#12290; AMD AthlonTM 64 Processor FX-53/FX-55/FX-57
#12288; (2.40~2.80GHz, 1MB L2 cache, socket 939)
#12290; AMD AthlonTM 64 Processor
3000+/3200+/3400+/3500+/3800+
#12288; (1.80~2.40GHz, 512KB L2 cache, socket 939)
#12290; AMD AthlonTM 64 Processor 3700+/4000+
#12288; (2.20~2.40GHz, 1MB L2 cache, socket 939)
Core Logic  #12290;VIA K8T890CE + VT8237R
Display #12290;17.1 WXGA (1440x900) TFT / 17.1
WSXGA+ (1680x1050) / 17.1 WUXGA (1920x1200) TFT
Memory  #12290;Two 64-bit wide DDR data channels
#12290;Two 200-pin SODIMM sockets, supporting DDR 400
#12290;Expandable Memory up to 2GB, based on
256/512/1024MB SODIMM Module
Video Controller

#12290;(Option) nVIDIA QuadroTM Fx 2500
#12288;High performance graphic chip
#12290;512MB DDRIII Video RAM on board
#12290;256-bit video memroy interface
#12290;PCI-Express x16
#12290;Fully DirectX 9.0 support
#12290;Modular Design
#12290;OpenGL support
#12290;(Option) nVIDIA GeForceTM Go #12288;7900 GTX
High performance #12288;graphic chip
#12290;256MB DDRIII Video RAM on board
#12290;256-bit video memroy interface
#12290;PCI-Express x16
#12290;Fully DirectX 9.0 support
#12290;Modular Design
#12290;H.264 encode support
#12288; (HD-DVD/BD-DVD playback)   #12290;(Option)
nVIDIA GeForceTM Go 7900
#12288;GTX High performance graphic chip
#12290;512MB DDRIII Video RAM on board
#12290;256-bit video memroy interface
#12290;PCI-Express x16
#12290;Fully DirectX 9.0 support
#12290;Modular Design
#12290;H.264 encode support
#12288; (HD-DVD / BD-DVD playback)
Storage #12290;One changeable Primary 2.5 HDD
9.5mm(H)
#12290;Serial ATA HDD support
#12290;Supporting Master mode IDE ATA-100/133 (Ultra
DMA)
#12290;One changeable Primary Bay for 12.7mm(H)
DVD-ROM / Combo / DVD-Dual Driver
#12290;(Option) One external USB 1.44MB Floppy Disk
Drive
#12290;(Option) One changeable Secondary 2.5 HDD
9.5mm(H)
#12290;(Option) One changeable Secondary Bay for
12.7mm(H) DVD-ROM / Combo / DVD-Dual Driver
Keyboard#12290;Full size keyboard, with Numeric
Pad, Multi-Language support
#12290;Built-in Touchpad with scrolling function
Sound System#12290;AC'97 2.2 Compliant Interface
#12290;3D stereo enhanced sound system
#12290;Virtual 8-channel audio output
#12290;Sound-Blaster PROTM compatible
#12290;S/PDIF Digital output
#12290;SRS (Sound Retrieval System® ) / WOW 3D sound
technology
#12290;1x Built-in Microphone
#12290;4x Built-in Speakers
#12290;1x Built-in Sub woofer
#12290;1x Built-in Audio DJ Console for music CD (MP3
format compatible)
I/O Ports   #12290;4x USB 2.0 ports
#12290;2x Mini IEEE1394a ports
#12290;1x S-Video jack for TV output (HDTV support)
#12290;1x Serial port
#12290;1x Parallel port (LPT1), supporting ECP/EPP
#12290;1x Infrared Transfer port
#12290;1x DVI port
#12290;1x PS/2 port
#12290;1x Headphone jack
#12290;1x Microphone jack
#12290;1x S/PDIF output jack
#12290;1x Line-in jack for Audio input
#12290;1x RJ-45 port for LAN
#12290;1x RJ-11 port for Modem
#12290;1x DC-In jack
#12290;1x CATV input jack (optional function with
TV-Tuner module)
#12290;1x S-Video jack for Video input (optional
function with TV-Tuner module)
Slot#12290;Built-in 10-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS
Pro/SD/MMC/CF/SM/MicroDrive/MS DUO/Mini SD/RSMMC)
#12290;1x Type II PCMCIA socket
Communication   #12290;Infrared Transfer : 115.2Kbps
SIR/4Mbps FIR, IrDA 1.1 compliant
#12290;10/100/1000BASE-T Fast Ethernet onboard
#12290;Integrated V.90/56K Azalia Modem (V.92
compliant)
#12290;(Option) 802.11b/g MiniPCI Wireless LAN Module
#12290;(Option) BluetoothTM Class II V2.0 Module,
combo with 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Module
#12290;(Factory option) 1.3M-pixel Video Camera
module
Power   #12290;Full Range 220W AC adapter - AC input
100~240V, 47~63Hz, 

Re: trouble with a pair of bind9 servers

2006-09-08 Thread David Robillard

the trouble im having is, that my slave (5.5-p3) will not transfer the zone
from the master (6.1-p4).  my /var/log/messages is filled with these:

Sep  7 21:50:24 fbsd55-2 named[1847]: exiting
Sep  7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: starting BIND 9.3.2 -t /var/named -u bind
Sep  7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:40: option 
'allow-update' is not allowed in 'slave' zone 'dlptest.com'


Hi Jonathan,

First, I would recommend you to send this question to the BIND mailing
list at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. See ISC's website for more subscribing
at http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/bind/bind-lists.php and the
archives at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=bind-users

Now, this first error is self explanatory: you can't use
'allow-update' in a slave zone, only in the master. It makes sense,
because if the slave had updates, then it would not be able to tell
the master about those updates and the zones would become inconsistent
between your machines (resulting in quite a mess). The other way
around is better: update the master which will then send notifiiy
messages to your slave who in turn will download the updates.

So just remove 'allow-update' in the slave's named.conf(5).



Sep  7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: zone dlptest.com/IN/internal: has 0 SOA 
records
Sep  7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: zone dlptest.com/IN/internal: has no NS 
records


These point to a bad zone file. You should double check your
/etc/namedb/dlptest.com.i.hosts file. Make sure you have both SOA and
NS records in them. Consider using the named-checkzone(8) command to
check your zone files. See the man page for named-checkzone(8) for
more info.

Hummm, I know it's not my business, but may I suggest you another name
for your zone files? I personally use db.dlptest.com.internal and
db.dlptest.com.external for the master files. For the slave, I use
bak.dlptest.com.internal and bak.dlptest.com.external. IMHO it's a
little more clear whether you're working on a internal slave file or
an external master file :)



Sep  7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: running
Sep  7 21:50:27 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: dumping master
file: /etc/namedb/tmp-UZF5mCCxZP: open: permission denied
Sep  7 21:50:27 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: transfer of 'dlptest.com/IN' from
192.168.125.91#53: failed while receiving responses: permission denied
Sep  7 21:51:20 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: dumping master
file: /etc/namedb/tmp-SaWWYxV06u: open: permission denied
Sep  7 21:51:20 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: transfer of 'dlptest.com/IN' from
192.168.125.91#53: failed while receiving responses: permission denied

this was giving me the impression that the bind user was not able to write
to /var/named/etc/namedb, but every time i make a chmod or chown adjustment,
it just gets changed back:

fbsd55-2# /etc/rc.d/named restart
Stopping named.
etc/namedb changed
user expected 0 found 53 modified
Starting named.
fbsd55-2#


I'm afraid I'm not quite sure this problem is? Maybe check your
fstab(5) for special options such as noexec or nosuid and friends.
Check the mount(8) man page if you find anything. Also have you played
with chflags(1) ?  Finally, I would check the ISC's BIND mailing list
archives to see if you can come up with something.

Good luck,

David


ive been dinking around with this for a few hours now, and im about to pull
what little hair i have left out.  can someone shed light on this for me
please?  any help at all would be much appreciated!

cheers,
jonathan


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Re: OpenOffice build crashes the compiler

2006-09-08 Thread Perry Hutchison
  Making: ../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/slo/SlideSorterView.obj
...
  g++-ooo: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus)
...
  dmake:  Error code 1, while making
  '../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/slo/SlideSorterView.obj'
  '---* tg_merge.mk *---'
  
  ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making
  /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/sd/source/ui/slidesorter/view
...
  Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0.
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2005-March/021822.html
 
 is an old link but has a patch.

That describes the inability to build gcc-ooo itself.  The current
problem arose while trying to *use* gcc-ooo to build slidesorter
(which I don't even need -- can it be configured out?)

 http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2003-10/msg02538.php
 
 sugests some missing symlinks might be the culprit.

That was while trying to build readlicense_oo, in OOo 1.something,
and looks as if it may have somehow involved Java.

 Please let me know is either of these resolve the
 isses, I'm looking to get OpenOffice built this
 weekend after I update my basic system... Both of
 these reference that Error 65280

but neither involves cc1plus dying with a signal 9.  The only thing
I know of that causes a reproducible kill -9 is a missing shared
library, but cc1plus uses only libc.so.6, which does exist:

  # ( cd 
/usr/local/gcc-ooo/i386-portbld-freebsd6.1/3.4.1/libexec/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd6.1/3.4.1
 ; ldd cc1plus )
  cc1plus:
  libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x283d5000)
  # ll /lib/libc.so.6
  -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  882116 May  6 20:56 /lib/libc.so.6

 some answers also suggest you might be running out of
 space in the build directory. You'll need at least
 1.8G to build Openoffice (/usr/ports); I say at least
 because when I built it for Gentoo on my P4 it used up
 more like 5G and took 8-10 hours to build. 

There seems to be plenty of space:

  # df
  Filesystem  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Mounted on
  /dev/ad0s3a50763030144   436876 6%/
  devfs   110   100%/dev
  /dev/ad0s3e507630  282   466738 0%/tmp
  /dev/ad0s3f  40083664 10225734 2665123828%/usr
  /dev/ad0s3d   114831888404   968050 8%/var

BTW this is a *long* way into the build.  A rerun, which doesn't
need to actually build anything prior to the point of failure,
generates close to 500KB of logfile and takes almost 40 minutes.
The initial attempt had taken over 24 hours to reach that point.
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Acroread doesn't find a lib

2006-09-08 Thread vittorio
Under freebsd 6.1 I have just portupgraded the ports acroread-7.0.8 and 
libXfixes-2.0.1_2.

BUT

#acroread
/usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while 
loading shared libraries: libXfixes.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No 
such file or directory


What should I do?

Vittorio
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Re: Acroread doesn't find a lib

2006-09-08 Thread Josh Carroll

Does /usr/X11R6/lib/libXfixes.so.3 exist? It is in the
xorg-libraries-6.9.0 package, so you might try re-installing it (via
ports or pkg_add, depending which you originally used).

If it does exist, try running ldconfig to see if the library shows up:

ldconfig -r | grep libXfixes.so.3

If it doesn't, you can try:

ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib

Then see whether it's showing up with ldconfig -r.

Josh

On 9/8/06, vittorio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Under freebsd 6.1 I have just portupgraded the ports acroread-7.0.8 and
libXfixes-2.0.1_2.

BUT

#acroread
/usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while
loading shared libraries: libXfixes.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory


What should I do?

Vittorio
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Fwd: Re: hp or Toshiba laptop?

2006-09-08 Thread Ivailo Bonev

From: Ivailo Bonev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Parv [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: Re: hp or Toshiba laptop?
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:52:44 +0300

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 09:14:26 +0300, Parv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sorry for using somebody else's reply to reply to OP as I had
deleted the OP.

in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Joel Dahl
thusly...


On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 08:38 -0400, Christian Lopez de Castilla
Wagner wrote:

 I'm looking into buying a new laptop in the next week

...

 Toshiba Tecra A6-SP3032 (Core Duo 1.83GHz, Intel PRO/Wireless
 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g)

...

I happen to be currently using Toshiba Satellite A105-40xx (work
computer), which cost around $800-900 from Circuit City or Best Buy
(US chain stores).  After few weeks of usage, the keyboard turns out
to be rather crappy.  When i type -- my typing speed is around 25
wpm  not much of a touch typist -- the keys (more likely the
spring) whine as if they need lubrication  have become rather
loose.

On another Toshiba Satellite, about a year old (as overheard from a
coworker; I used it for 2-3 months), Fn key has become so
ridiculously loose it behaves like a loose leaf paper covering a
sauce pan.

So, be mindful of Tecra's keyboard.

OTOH, two year old IBM Thinkpad T42's ($1600) keyboard is working
wonderfully; five old Dell Inspiron 5000e's (a thousand some dollars
at the time) keyboard is still better than above mentioned new
Toshiba Satellite.


  - Parv



And my 2-year Toshiba Portege burned. Sorry Toshiba, but thats the truth.
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panic: filesystem goof: vop_panic[vop_revoke]

2006-09-08 Thread Xiao-Yong Jin
Hi, sadly, I encountered a kernel panic this afternoon.  I was
transferring a file from remote host, and it happened.

Sep  8 13:06:13 presario kernel: info: [drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs
Sep  8 16:53:40 presario syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
Sep  8 16:53:40 presario kernel: panic: filesystem goof: vop_panic[vop_revoke]
Sep  8 16:53:40 presario kernel: Uptime: 3h49m9s
Sep  8 16:53:40 presario kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined.
Sep  8 16:53:40 presario kernel: Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key 
on the
 console to abort
Sep  8 16:53:40 presario kernel: Rebooting...
Sep  8 16:53:40 presario kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Sep  8 16:53:40 presario kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 
1989, 1
991, 1992, 1993, 1994
Sep  8 16:53:40 presario kernel: The Regents of the University of California. 
All ri
ghts reserved.
Sep  8 16:53:40 presario kernel: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Fri Aug 25 14:57:54 EDT 
2006

[...snip...]

Sep  8 16:59:05 presario fsck: /dev/ad0s1f: 295774 files, 3003152 used, 3080835 
free
 (36267 frags, 380571 blocks, 0.6% fragmentation)
Sep  8 16:59:49 presario fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT I=494617 
(36704 sh
ould be 17376) (CORRECTED)
Sep  8 16:59:49 presario fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=494617  OWNER=jin 
MODE=1006
44
Sep  8 16:59:49 presario fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=18776064 MTIME=Sep  8 16:52 
2006  (
CLEARED)
Sep  8 16:59:49 presario fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: Reclaimed: 0 directories, 1 files, 
4832 
fragments
Sep  8 16:59:49 presario fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: 9664 files, 1858449 used, 4736342 
free (
5574 frags, 591346 blocks, 0.1% fragmentation)
Sep  8 17:00:05 presario fsck: /dev/ad0s1d: 18011 files, 65778 used, 687317 
free (19
65 frags, 85669 blocks, 0.3% fragmentation)


1. What do I need to further investigate the reason for the panic?
2. How can I find the file referred in the fsck out put?
3. If someone wants to improve the quality of FreeBSD and wants me to
   give more information, I'm willing to.  Just send me a message.

Thank you,
Xiao-Yong

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FreeBSD 6.1 shutting down.

2006-09-08 Thread Marwan Sultan

Hello everyone,

 I'm On FreeBSD 6.1R, the box is intel945 extra Dlink NIC
 P4.3 1G DDR2, 160GB sata.

 running Freeradius, chillispot, MySql 4.1, apache2.
 acting as NAT and hotspot login.

 there is two diffrent servers with the same specifications.

 Its was working fine starting from day 1 to day 5 uptime.
 and the other box from day 1 to 3,
 with almost 30 users as hotspot login.

 On day 5, it had a sudden shutdown, some users called me reported there is 
no internet

 when i checked the server i discovered the box is off power.

 The second box after 3 days had the same problem.

 when i started the power, for both...again it start to work in a goodway.

 I was shocked.. checked messages, dmesg, and almost everything I couldnot 
find any clue

 in logs.. so
 question 1, How would i check what happened for this power shutting down?

 2)
 in my dmesg and since i was settingup the box, the following error was 
always coming and on

 single line

 atapci1: failed to enable memory mapping!

 any help on this please?

 Marwan Sultan.

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Re: can i build more than one world on a buildserver?

2006-09-08 Thread Duane Whitty

Jonathan Horne wrote:

On Wednesday 06 September 2006 19:05, Jonathan Horne wrote:

On Wednesday 06 September 2006 13:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 9/6/06, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build
server? or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built
from the same machine?

buildworld and buildkernel targets are
fairly sophisticated.

The /usr/obj tree corresponds to the source
directory, so if you have your 5.5 sources in
/src/5.5
and your 6.1 sources in
/src/6.1 (or /usr/src/6.1 for that matter)

the world(s) would be built in
/usr/obj/src/5.5/ and /usr/obj/src/6.1/
repsectively. (Or /usr/obj/usr/src/6.1)

If the purpose is to buildworld on one
fast machine and then export it to slower
machines on th' network, this works
admirably well.

thank you!!  this was the exact hint i was hoping for!

cheers,
jonathan


well, so far, kinda so good.

i was able to cvsup 5.5-RELENG, 6.1-STABLE, and 6.1-RELENG to my build box.  i 
did a test kernel on the 6.1-RELENG, and that went fine, pretty much as 
expected.  but the 5.5 will not build.  i get this error:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/5.5-RELENG/src]# make buildkernel KERNCONF=TYCHE

--

Kernel build for TYCHE started on Thu Sep  7 06:48:26 CDT 2006

--
=== TYCHE
mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/sys

--

stage 1: configuring the kernel

--
cd /usr/5.5-RELENG/src/sys/i386/conf;  
PATH=/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin  
config  -d /usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/sys/TYCHE  /usr/5.5-RELENG/src/sys/i386/conf/TYCHE

../../conf/files: coda/coda_fbsd.c must be optional, mandatory or standard
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/5.5-RELENG/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/5.5-RELENG/src.

should building parts of 5.5 from a 6.1-buildserver be possible?  or should i 
install 5.5 on my buildserver, and compile 5.5 from there as well as the 
higher versions?



Hi,

If I were you I would cvsup the entire repository (for src-all).
Then I would set up chroot-ed environments for each world 
you want to build.  When you want to do a build checkout the

version you want to your chroot-ed /usr/src directory.
There are more details @ /usr/src/UPDATING.  In your chroot
environment you'll need everything for doing a build
(libraries, headers, etc.).  What worked well for me was
duplicating the base system root directories.  One nice
thing about this, for instance, is that you can have
customized /etc/make.conf files.  With this setup you can
even do a chroot-ed install world, make dist, etc.  There
are hints for this in UPDATING as well.

Best Regards,

Duane Whitty

P.S.

Your email server bounced my earlier reply
which, admittedly, I forgot to CC to list

thanks,
jonathan
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FreeBSD not popular in Asia?

2006-09-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier


Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push 
the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting 
from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ...


Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ?


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Jail won't start

2006-09-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

I'm new to working with jail's in FreeBSD, so I've created a jail using 
the following instructions:


http://www.section6.net/wiki/index.php/Creating_a_FreeBSD_Jail#Jail_Creation_Techniques

I am running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p9.

I'm having trouble starting my jail, and I've included my attempt below:

jail /home/jail/hostname hostname.net 192.168.1.101 /bin/sh
jail: execv: /bin/sh: Permission denied

What do I do to get the jail started up?

Thanks for your help,
Mark
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Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?

2006-09-08 Thread Dan Langille
On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

 
 Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push 
 the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting 
 from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ...
 
 Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ?

Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have 
signed up.

I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one.  No particular 
reason.


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Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?

2006-09-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
Dan Langille wrote:
 On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 
 Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push 
 the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting 
 from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ...

 Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ?
 
 Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have 
 signed up.
 
 I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one.  No particular 
 reason.

Reported hosts for China and India are following the same pattern.  About
equal numbers of Open/Net/DFly and very few Free.  Either there's some
fairly large scale project in those countries using hundreds of those
systems, or someone is playing games.  It would be interesting to see the
reported devices for those machines, if any.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?

2006-09-08 Thread Chris
Matthew Seaman wrote:
 Dan Langille wrote:
 On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

 Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push 
 the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting 
 from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ...

 Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ?
 Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have 
 signed up.

 I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one.  No particular 
 reason.
 
 Reported hosts for China and India are following the same pattern.  About
 equal numbers of Open/Net/DFly and very few Free.  Either there's some
 fairly large scale project in those countries using hundreds of those
 systems, or someone is playing games.  It would be interesting to see the
 reported devices for those machines, if any.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew
 

Ahh - you seen the same thing I did.

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Window Manager Recommendations

2006-09-08 Thread Joel Adamson
Hello List,

I am switching over my desktop system to FreeBSD soon and want to choose a nice 
window manager.  One of the more annoying things I want to get away from in 
Microsoft Windows is focus-shifting: I'll be typing along in one place, then a 
webpage will finish loading, the window focus shifts, I keep typing and execute 
a bunch of commands in the new window (chosen by Windows, rather than by me, 
who would be content to keep typing and go to the webpage when I'm good and 
ready).

In general I'd prefer a window manager that avoids these sorts of things (i.e., 
only does what I ask it to).

Recommendations welcome.

thanks,
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Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?

2006-09-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote:


Dan Langille wrote:

On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote:


Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push
the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting
from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ...

Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ?


Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have
signed up.

I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one.  No particular
reason.


Reported hosts for China and India are following the same pattern.  About
equal numbers of Open/Net/DFly and very few Free.  Either there's some
fairly large scale project in those countries using hundreds of those
systems, or someone is playing games.  It would be interesting to see the
reported devices for those machines, if any.


Reported devices right now doesn't work on the other BSDs, as apparently 
we are the only one that has a pciconf command :(  But, here is a sampling 
of systems information for those coming in from KR (that is Korea, 
right?):


 operating_system |  release  | architecture | count
--+---+--+---
 DragonFly| 1.6.0-RELEASE | amd64|17
 DragonFly| 1.0A-RELEASE  | i386 |16
 DragonFly| 1.1-Stable| i386 |16
 DragonFly| 1.5.3-DEVELOPMENT | i386 |16
 DragonFly| 1.3.7-DEVELOPMENT | amd64|16
 DragonFly| 1.1-Stable| amd64|12
 DragonFly| 1.3.7-DEVELOPMENT | i386 |12
 DragonFly| 1.4.0-RELEASE | amd64|12
 DragonFly| 1.7.0-DEVELOPMENT | amd64|12
 DragonFly| 1.4.0-RELEASE | i386 |12
 DragonFly| 1.7.0-DEVELOPMENT | i386 |11
 DragonFly| 1.0A-RELEASE  | amd64|10
 DragonFly| 1.5.3-DEVELOPMENT | amd64| 9
 DragonFly| 1.6.0-RELEASE | i386 | 9
 OpenBSD  | 3.8   | macppc   | 4
 OpenBSD  | 3.3   | zaurus   | 4
 OpenBSD  | 3.6   | luna88k  | 3
 OpenBSD  | 3.3   | mac68k   | 3
 OpenBSD  | 3.8   | mac68k   | 3
 OpenBSD  | 3.8   | mvme88k  | 3
 OpenBSD  | 3.6   | mac68k   | 3
 OpenBSD  | 4.0   | macppc   | 3
 OpenBSD  | 3.3   | vax  | 3
 OpenBSD  | 3.9   | sparc| 3
 OpenBSD  | 3.4   | cats | 3
 OpenBSD  | 3.3   | sparc| 3
 OpenBSD  | 3.3   | i386 | 3
 OpenBSD  | 3.8   | i386 | 3
 NetBSD   | 3.1_RC1   | mmeye| 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.5   | sparc64  | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.9   | sgi  | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.3   | cats | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.3   | sparc64  | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.8   | hppa | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.2   | cats | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.8   | armish   | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.9   | alpha| 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.2   | hppa | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.3   | macppc   | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.7   | mac68k   | 2
 NetBSD   | 3.1_RC2   | shark| 2
 OpenBSD  | 4.0   | sgi  | 2
 NetBSD   | 3.0_RC3   | evbsh5   | 2
 NetBSD   | 3.99.18   | i386 | 2
 NetBSD   | 3.99.20   | evbsh3   | 2
 OpenBSD  | 4.0   | i386 | 2
 NetBSD   | 4.0_BETA  | evbsh3   | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.6   | i386 | 2
 NetBSD   | 3.0_RC3   | cats | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.3   | armish   | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.8   | sgi  | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.7   | sgi  | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.2   | sgi  | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.4   | amd64| 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.8   | luna88k  | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.5   | mvme88k  | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.9   | amd64| 2
 OpenBSD  | 4.0   | luna88k  | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.6   | amd64| 2
 NetBSD   | 2.0.3 | algor| 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.3   | luna88k  | 2
 OpenBSD  | 3.6   | 

Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?

2006-09-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote:


Dan Langille wrote:

On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote:


Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push
the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting
from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ...

Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ?


Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have
signed up.

I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one.  No particular
reason.


Reported hosts for China and India are following the same pattern.  About
equal numbers of Open/Net/DFly and very few Free.  Either there's some
fairly large scale project in those countries using hundreds of those
systems, or someone is playing games.  It would be interesting to see the
reported devices for those machines, if any.


Oh, and I did check CN (China, I hope?) and they show similar trends, but 
not the same releases / architectures / counts ...



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Re: Window Manager Recommendations

2006-09-08 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:49:46PM -0700, Joel Adamson wrote:
 
 I am switching over my desktop system to FreeBSD soon and want to choose a 
 nice window manager.  One of the more annoying things I want to get away from 
 in Microsoft Windows is focus-shifting: I'll be typing along in one place, 
 then a webpage will finish loading, the window focus shifts, I keep typing 
 and execute a bunch of commands in the new window (chosen by Windows, rather 
 than by me, who would be content to keep typing and go to the webpage when 
 I'm good and ready).
 
 In general I'd prefer a window manager that avoids these sorts of things 
 (i.e., only does what I ask it to).

If that's really a major goal then look into ion3 or ratpoison. I've
been using ion3 for quite a while now and I'm happy.

(you probably won't like it, though, coming from Windows)

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Re: Window Manager Recommendations

2006-09-08 Thread Chris
Darrin Chandler wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:49:46PM -0700, Joel Adamson wrote:
 I am switching over my desktop system to FreeBSD soon and want to choose a 
 nice window manager.  One of the more annoying things I want to get away 
 from in Microsoft Windows is focus-shifting: I'll be typing along in one 
 place, then a webpage will finish loading, the window focus shifts, I keep 
 typing and execute a bunch of commands in the new window (chosen by Windows, 
 rather than by me, who would be content to keep typing and go to the webpage 
 when I'm good and ready).

 In general I'd prefer a window manager that avoids these sorts of things 
 (i.e., only does what I ask it to).
 
 If that's really a major goal then look into ion3 or ratpoison. I've
 been using ion3 for quite a while now and I'm happy.
 
 (you probably won't like it, though, coming from Windows)
 

I prefer XFCE4

Darrin - if possible, could you provide screenshots?

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Re: Window Manager Recommendations

2006-09-08 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:52:41PM -0500, Chris wrote:
  
  If that's really a major goal then look into ion3 or ratpoison. I've
  been using ion3 for quite a while now and I'm happy.
  
  (you probably won't like it, though, coming from Windows)
  
 
 I prefer XFCE4
 
 Darrin - if possible, could you provide screenshots?

http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/ is the ion3 home page, with some
screenshots toward the bottom. It's somewhat spartan, but if you want
something that stays out of your way then it's very nice. It's like an X
version of screen, on steroids. :)

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Re: Window Manager Recommendations

2006-09-08 Thread ajm
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 09:02:51PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:52:41PM -0500, Chris wrote:
   
   If that's really a major goal then look into ion3 or ratpoison. I've
   been using ion3 for quite a while now and I'm happy.
   
   (you probably won't like it, though, coming from Windows)
   
  
  I prefer XFCE4
  
  Darrin - if possible, could you provide screenshots?
 
 http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/ is the ion3 home page, with some
 screenshots toward the bottom. It's somewhat spartan, but if you want
 something that stays out of your way then it's very nice. It's like an X
 version of screen, on steroids. :)
 

Try this website:
http://xwinman.org/

It will give an idea of what is out there.

If you are looking for a lot of bells and whistles...try KDE or Gnome.
I personally like Fluxbox.  http://fluxbox.org/

You have to remember that window managers/desktops are like ice-cream...
some people perfer one flavor over another.  So give some a try...

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Can you install diablo-jdk for 6.1 on 6.0?

2006-09-08 Thread Henry Lenzi

Hi --

Can you install diablo-jdk for 6.1 on 6.0?
One can no longer find the original package for 6.0 on the FreeBSD
foundation web site.

TIA.

Henry
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Re: Can you install diablo-jdk for 6.1 on 6.0?

2006-09-08 Thread Napoleon Dynamite
I think there was a vulnerability on it, so I installed the Sun version of JDK 
15 from ports and blackdown-jdk-14 instead. I wanted the package to avoid the 
long compile time, but it wasn't too bad.

HTH,
Eric Buchanan

On Friday 08 September 2006 22:31, Henry Lenzi wrote:
 Hi --

 Can you install diablo-jdk for 6.1 on 6.0?
 One can no longer find the original package for 6.0 on the FreeBSD
 foundation web site.

  TIA.

  Henry
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Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?

2006-09-08 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:



Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to  
push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes  
reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then  
OpenBSD ...


Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ?


Or maybe the FreeBSD users in Korea use their systems for real work  
and don't read this list or play these sorts of games...  The Open/ 
Net/DFly users are hobbyists who like to play these games.


I am not knocking the bsdstats effort -- just that lots of serious  
users with machines in production won't report back (I know I am  
not).  Your sample is probably statistically invalid.


best regards
Chad

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Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?

2006-09-08 Thread Chris
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
 
 On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 

 Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to
 push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes
 reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then
 OpenBSD ...

 Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ?
 
 Or maybe the FreeBSD users in Korea use their systems for real work and
 don't read this list or play these sorts of games...  The Open/Net/DFly
 users are hobbyists who like to play these games.
 
 I am not knocking the bsdstats effort -- just that lots of serious users
 with machines in production won't report back (I know I am not).  Your
 sample is probably statistically invalid.
 
 best regards
 Chad
 
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 Your Web App and Email hosting provider
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Not to mention how many are vmwared. Does that count? Could it count?
Would it count?

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