Re: can't upgrade - catch-22

2007-10-27 Thread Keith Seyffarth
  On FreeBSD before 6.2 ports system unfortunately can not set default
  X11BASE by itself so please help it a bit by setting
  X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} in make.conf.
  On the other hand, if you do wish to use non-default X11BASE, please
  set variable USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE.
  
  However, even if I edit /etc/make.conf and add either
  X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} or X11BASE=/usr/X11R6, I still get this
  error.
  
  Any suggestions or recommendations on how to get ruby installed? I
  think once I have that installed, I should be able to get port-upgrade
  fixed and then maybe be able to get some patches downloaded... I would
  really appreciate any tips or suggestions.
  
  output of uname -a:
  FreeBSD computer.weif.net 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov
  3 09:36:13 UTC 2005
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
 
 There was major change about Xorg; For more details, plase see here:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2007-May/001131.html
 
 I think the upgrade was/is mandatory, not optional ;;

Thanks for the tip, but unfortunately it isn't really very helpful. I
guess I didn't clarify the catch-22 in my previous post.

In order to get X upgraded, I need to get portupgrade working. This
requires that X already be upgraded. This, in return requires
portupgrade...

I was starting with trying to get Ruby because that addressed the
vulnerabilities I was trying it initially address. However, that's
pretty irrelevant at the moment.

Where I'm stuck is getting either portupgrade working or getting X
upgraded, both of which seem to be dependent on the other having
already happened...

Thanks,
Keith
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Re: can't upgrade - catch-22

2007-10-27 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Friday 26 October 2007, Keith Seyffarth said:
   On FreeBSD before 6.2 ports system unfortunately can not set
   default X11BASE by itself so please help it a bit by setting
   X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} in make.conf.
   On the other hand, if you do wish to use non-default X11BASE,
   please set variable USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE.
  
   However, even if I edit /etc/make.conf and add either
   X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} or X11BASE=/usr/X11R6, I still get this
   error.
  
   Any suggestions or recommendations on how to get ruby
   installed? I think once I have that installed, I should be able
   to get port-upgrade fixed and then maybe be able to get some
   patches downloaded... I would really appreciate any tips or
   suggestions.
  
   output of uname -a:
   FreeBSD computer.weif.net 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0:
   Thu Nov 3 09:36:13 UTC 2005
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
 
  There was major change about Xorg; For more details, plase see
  here:
  http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2007-May/0011
 31.html
 
  I think the upgrade was/is mandatory, not optional ;;

 Thanks for the tip, but unfortunately it isn't really very helpful.
 I guess I didn't clarify the catch-22 in my previous post.

 In order to get X upgraded, I need to get portupgrade working. This
 requires that X already be upgraded. This, in return requires
 portupgrade...

 I was starting with trying to get Ruby because that addressed the
 vulnerabilities I was trying it initially address. However, that's
 pretty irrelevant at the moment.

 Where I'm stuck is getting either portupgrade working or getting X
 upgraded, both of which seem to be dependent on the other having
 already happened...

 Thanks,
 Keith

Make sure your ports tree is 100% up to date.

Uninstall portupgrade  all it's dependencies.

cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade  make install clean

Read and follow the instructions in UPDATING for updating xorg


Cheers,

Beech

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Re: can't upgrade - catch-22

2007-10-27 Thread Daniel Marsh
On 10/27/07, Keith Seyffarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   On FreeBSD before 6.2 ports system unfortunately can not set default
   X11BASE by itself so please help it a bit by setting
   X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} in make.conf.
   On the other hand, if you do wish to use non-default X11BASE, please
   set variable USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE.
  
   However, even if I edit /etc/make.conf and add either
   X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} or X11BASE=/usr/X11R6, I still get this
   error.
  
   Any suggestions or recommendations on how to get ruby installed? I
   think once I have that installed, I should be able to get port-upgrade
   fixed and then maybe be able to get some patches downloaded... I would
   really appreciate any tips or suggestions.
  
   output of uname -a:
   FreeBSD computer.weif.net 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov
   3 09:36:13 UTC 2005
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
 
  There was major change about Xorg; For more details, plase see here:
  http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2007-May/001131.html
 
  I think the upgrade was/is mandatory, not optional ;;

 Thanks for the tip, but unfortunately it isn't really very helpful. I
 guess I didn't clarify the catch-22 in my previous post.

 In order to get X upgraded, I need to get portupgrade working. This
 requires that X already be upgraded. This, in return requires
 portupgrade...

 I was starting with trying to get Ruby because that addressed the
 vulnerabilities I was trying it initially address. However, that's
 pretty irrelevant at the moment.

 Where I'm stuck is getting either portupgrade working or getting X
 upgraded, both of which seem to be dependent on the other having
 already happened...

 Thanks,
 Keith


Why don't you just manually remove Xorg and then install it with
portinstall?
ie. pkg_delete -f xorg\*

That'll remove all packages that start with the characters xorg.
Install the newer version of Xorg then upgrade portupgrade, then upgrade the
packages that depended on xorg.

It's probably not as simple as portupgrade, but you'll probably have more
luck.
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Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!

2007-10-27 Thread Antonio Arredondo
I used to have issues with portupgrade as well. I traced my problem to
using the wrong portupgrade. I have been using portupgrade for several
months without an issue ( except the Xorg 7 transition ). Make sure to
use

/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade

and not

/usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade


I also follow the following port method, as per the handbook suggestion:

portsnap fetch
portsnap update

method. This has worked without an issue for me. I am running FreeBSD
6.2-RELEASE-p8.


I hope this helps.


-
Antonio Arredondo
PhD Student
NMSU Computer Science Department
http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~aarredon/
-

 On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, E. J. Cerejo wrote:

 Not anymore!  Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those
 ports
 that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because portupgrade
 doesn't
 work the way it used to work.  It is not fun any more!  Always an issue,
 either a port conflicts with another port or it fails all together.  I
 have
 forgotten the last time I updated my ports without any issues.  Today
 scrollkeeper is conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same
 directory.
 Did you have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING ?
 (I guess you have got a problem with the latest gnome.)

 Regards,

 Uli.


 Go figure.  Those were the days when it used to work.
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Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!

2007-10-27 Thread Frank Staals

Antonio Arredondo wrote:

I used to have issues with portupgrade as well. I traced my problem to
using the wrong portupgrade. I have been using portupgrade for several
months without an issue ( except the Xorg 7 transition ). Make sure to
use

/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade

and not

/usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade


I also follow the following port method, as per the handbook suggestion:

portsnap fetch
portsnap update

method. This has worked without an issue for me. I am running FreeBSD
6.2-RELEASE-p8.


I hope this helps.


-
Antonio Arredondo
PhD Student
NMSU Computer Science Department
http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~aarredon/
-
  
snip
All ports managment utilities have been moved to ports-mgmt quite some 
time ago. So if you still have a  sysutils/portupgrade you should update 
your portstree.


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Harddisk encryption with geli: key's block size

2007-10-27 Thread Thomas Hobbes
Hi,

I want to encrypt my mobile computer's data-partition with a
passphrase, 128 bit AES and HMAC/MD5. A lot of people use different
block sizes to generate keys with dd. There are examples with block
sizes of 64, 32k and 128k in geli's man-page, but I couldn't find out
why they were used. Spidering 'geli + key bs' discovered that there
are some more values used, i.e. 128, 512 and 1k. What is a reasonable
block size to use?

Bye
Thomas
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pkgdb -Ff and autoconf question...how do I respond?

2007-10-27 Thread Dino Vliet
Dear FreeBSD folks,

I want to upgrade my ports but as I'm following the
/usr/ports/UPDATING file, it advised me to run the
command pkgdb -Ff.

When I do I get this:

pkgdb -Ff
---  Checking the package registry database
Duplicated origin: devel/autoconf261 - autoconf-2.53_4
autoconf-2.61_2
Unregister any of them? [no]

I don't know how to respond actually. The questioned
packages are installed:

pkg_info | grep autoconf
autoconf-2.13.000227_6 Automatically configure source
code on many Un*x platforms 
autoconf-2.53_4 Automatically configure source
code on many Un*x platforms 
autoconf-2.61_2 Automatically configure source
code on many Un*x platforms 
autoconf-wrapper-20070404 Wrapper script for GNU
autoconf


What is wisdom here? Which one of them can I
unregister?

Thanks in advanced.


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Re: Harddisk encryption with geli: key's block size

2007-10-27 Thread RW
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:40:00 +0200
Thomas Hobbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I want to encrypt my mobile computer's data-partition with a
 passphrase, 128 bit AES and HMAC/MD5. A lot of people use different
 block sizes to generate keys with dd. There are examples with block
 sizes of 64, 32k and 128k in geli's man-page, but I couldn't find out
 why they were used. Spidering 'geli + key bs' discovered that there
 are some more values used, i.e. 128, 512 and 1k. What is a reasonable
 block size to use?


It doesn't matter, the output of /dev/random is generated from a 256
bit yarrow key, so anything more than dd /dev/random bs=32 count=1
is pointless. As you are only using  128  encryption, 256 bit of entropy
is overkill anyway.
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OpenSSL upgrade.

2007-10-27 Thread Grant Peel

Hiall,

Due to a security issue, I need to upgrade my OpenSSL version.

What is the correct method?

ports?

package?

a CVSUP of the whole server source?

Here is the version I have now (on freebsd 6.2)

const# openssl version
OpenSSL 0.9.7e-p1 25 Oct 2004
const#

TIA,

-Grant
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CPU usage 100% but no process hogging CPU

2007-10-27 Thread Gunther Mayer

Hi there,

I'm having some capacity issues on the FreeBSD 6.2/Core 2 Duo/2GB RAM 
server that I manage. For quite a few days now it constantly shows load 
averages of around 1 and a CPU usage of around 100%. Yet summing up the 
CPU usage of the individual processes running I hardly ever get to more 
than 5%, regardless of how long I watch top.


A snapshot of my top output looks like this:

last pid: 96102;  load averages:  1.28,  1.15,  
1.06
up 22+08:33:16  13:55:03

122 processes: 2 running, 119 sleeping, 1 zombie
CPU states: 67.3% user,  0.0% nice, 32.7% system,  0.0% interrupt,  0.0% 
idle

Mem: 474M Active, 974M Inact, 186M Wired, 68M Cache, 213M Buf, 93M Free
Swap: 4064M Total, 4064M Free

 PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
 635 root1 1220 27304K  2644K select 656:38  1.27% syslog-ng
 844 www20  200   411M   300M kserel 360:13  0.00% java
 837 user1   3  200 29048K  5672K kserel  34:30  0.00% radiusd
 788 pgsql   1  960 13516K  3824K select  10:03  0.00% postgres
 785 pgsql   1 1150   120M  7436K select   9:02  0.00% postgres
 787 pgsql   1   80   120M 41112K nanslp   5:15  0.00% postgres

syslog-ng is quite busy as I use it to capture logs of more than 50 
remote sites. I have lots of slow queries in my postgres logs that I 
think are related to this bottleneck, though unoptimised queries and an 
ever growing amount of data are more likely to take the blame for that. 
High disk I/O in this regard could explain the high system utilisation, 
however.


I found out that I've been bitten by the freebsd-update bug 
(http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-07:05.freebsd-update.asc) 
which replaced my SMP kernel with a GENERIC one and I'm taking 
corrective action early tomorrow morning, but surely even with just a 
single CPU the load average should never be as high?


Where are those phantom CPU hogging processes?

Gunther
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Re: CPU usage 100% but no process hogging CPU

2007-10-27 Thread Bruce Cran

Gunther Mayer wrote:

Hi there,

I'm having some capacity issues on the FreeBSD 6.2/Core 2 Duo/2GB RAM 
server that I manage. For quite a few days now it constantly shows load 
averages of around 1 and a CPU usage of around 100%. Yet summing up the 
CPU usage of the individual processes running I hardly ever get to more 
than 5%, regardless of how long I watch top.


A snapshot of my top output looks like this:

last pid: 96102;  load averages:  1.28,  1.15,  
1.06
up 22+08:33:16  13:55:03

122 processes: 2 running, 119 sleeping, 1 zombie
CPU states: 67.3% user,  0.0% nice, 32.7% system,  0.0% interrupt,  0.0% 
idle

Mem: 474M Active, 974M Inact, 186M Wired, 68M Cache, 213M Buf, 93M Free
Swap: 4064M Total, 4064M Free

 PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
 635 root1 1220 27304K  2644K select 656:38  1.27% syslog-ng
 844 www20  200   411M   300M kserel 360:13  0.00% java
 837 user1   3  200 29048K  5672K kserel  34:30  0.00% radiusd
 788 pgsql   1  960 13516K  3824K select  10:03  0.00% postgres
 785 pgsql   1 1150   120M  7436K select   9:02  0.00% postgres
 787 pgsql   1   80   120M 41112K nanslp   5:15  0.00% postgres

syslog-ng is quite busy as I use it to capture logs of more than 50 
remote sites. I have lots of slow queries in my postgres logs that I 
think are related to this bottleneck, though unoptimised queries and an 
ever growing amount of data are more likely to take the blame for that. 
High disk I/O in this regard could explain the high system utilisation, 
however.


I found out that I've been bitten by the freebsd-update bug 
(http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-07:05.freebsd-update.asc) 
which replaced my SMP kernel with a GENERIC one and I'm taking 
corrective action early tomorrow morning, but surely even with just a 
single CPU the load average should never be as high?


Where are those phantom CPU hogging processes?



By default top doesn't display system (kernel) processes, which can take 
 up lots of CPU time.  To show these, run top with the -S flag.


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Re: CPU usage 100% but no process hogging CPU

2007-10-27 Thread Kris Kennaway

Gunther Mayer wrote:

Hi there,

I'm having some capacity issues on the FreeBSD 6.2/Core 2 Duo/2GB RAM 
server that I manage. For quite a few days now it constantly shows load 
averages of around 1 and a CPU usage of around 100%. Yet summing up the 
CPU usage of the individual processes running I hardly ever get to more 
than 5%, regardless of how long I watch top.


A snapshot of my top output looks like this:

last pid: 96102;  load averages:  1.28,  1.15,  
1.06
up 22+08:33:16  13:55:03

122 processes: 2 running, 119 sleeping, 1 zombie
CPU states: 67.3% user,  0.0% nice, 32.7% system,  0.0% interrupt,  0.0% 
idle

Mem: 474M Active, 974M Inact, 186M Wired, 68M Cache, 213M Buf, 93M Free
Swap: 4064M Total, 4064M Free

 PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
 635 root1 1220 27304K  2644K select 656:38  1.27% syslog-ng
 844 www20  200   411M   300M kserel 360:13  0.00% java
 837 user1   3  200 29048K  5672K kserel  34:30  0.00% radiusd
 788 pgsql   1  960 13516K  3824K select  10:03  0.00% postgres
 785 pgsql   1 1150   120M  7436K select   9:02  0.00% postgres
 787 pgsql   1   80   120M 41112K nanslp   5:15  0.00% postgres

syslog-ng is quite busy as I use it to capture logs of more than 50 
remote sites. I have lots of slow queries in my postgres logs that I 
think are related to this bottleneck, though unoptimised queries and an 
ever growing amount of data are more likely to take the blame for that. 
High disk I/O in this regard could explain the high system utilisation, 
however.


I found out that I've been bitten by the freebsd-update bug 
(http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-07:05.freebsd-update.asc) 
which replaced my SMP kernel with a GENERIC one and I'm taking 
corrective action early tomorrow morning, but surely even with just a 
single CPU the load average should never be as high?


Where are those phantom CPU hogging processes?


A couple of points:

1) top -S will show what the kernel is doing, which may be relevant.

2) Because it only samples once a second (by default), top is bad for 
monitoring of any short-lived processes that may be using CPU for brief 
periods and then exiting.  Don't know if you have any on this workload 
though.


3) In 6.x threaded applications do not generate CPU usage data in top. , 
i.e. java is probably using more than 0% of your CPU :)  I think this is 
fixed in 7.0 and maybe also with libthr.  Chances are you want to use 
libthr even in 6.x for performance reasons (libkse has attrocious 
performance).  Use libmap.conf to switch the libraries.


Kris

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Re: Rebuilding world

2007-10-27 Thread Bruce Cran

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

Roberth Sjonøy wrote:

Hello, i am updating FreeBSD to 8-CURRENT, and im at the 23.4.1 The
Canonical Way to Update Your System part of the handbook, when
running make buildworld, this occours:
  


Before anyone gets on my friends case he is using 6.2 (i386) with the
current cvsup files on a dual core (1MB RAM).   Also note I told him to
post this note.


May I ask why you want to run 8-CURRENT?  It's almost certainly not 
suitable for someone just starting out with FreeBSD due to the constant 
breakages which occur, both in terms of kernel code and compatibility 
with installed software.


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Re: pkgdb -Ff and autoconf question...how do I respond?

2007-10-27 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Dino Vliet wrote:

Dear FreeBSD folks,

I want to upgrade my ports but as I'm following the
/usr/ports/UPDATING file, it advised me to run the
command pkgdb -Ff.

When I do I get this:

pkgdb -Ff
---  Checking the package registry database
Duplicated origin: devel/autoconf261 - autoconf-2.53_4
autoconf-2.61_2
Unregister any of them? [no]

I don't know how to respond actually. The questioned
packages are installed:

pkg_info | grep autoconf
autoconf-2.13.000227_6 Automatically configure source
code on many Un*x platforms 
autoconf-2.53_4 Automatically configure source
code on many Un*x platforms 
autoconf-2.61_2 Automatically configure source
code on many Un*x platforms 
autoconf-wrapper-20070404 Wrapper script for GNU

autoconf

What is wisdom here? Which one of them can I
unregister?


Hi, Dino:

Answer yes to the question shown above.  You
will then be asked whether you would like to 
unregister autoconf-2.53_4, leaving the 
installed files intact.  If, at this point,
the system looks like it has the concept, go 
ahead and allow it to change the package database.


After doing this for what seems like forever (well,
maybe, maybe not), you should have a pkgdb that
portupgrade is comfortable with.

HTH,

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Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!

2007-10-27 Thread E. J. Cerejo

P.U.Kruppa wrote:

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, E. J. Cerejo wrote:

Not anymore!  Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those 
ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because 
portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work.  It is not fun any 
more!  Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or 
it fails all together.  I have forgotten the last time I updated my 
ports without any issues.  Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with 
rarian, they install files on the same directory.

Did you have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING ?
(I guess you have got a problem with the latest gnome.)

Regards,

Uli.



Go figure.  Those were the days when it used to work.
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Of course, that is my first action whenever I finish the update.  Unless 
I missed something but I doubt it.

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Re: Storage cluster with FreeBSD

2007-10-27 Thread Ivan Voras
Norberto Meijome wrote:

 indeed. Well, as I said in OP, similar to what Lustre offers. 

I don't know what Lustre has so my response might or might not be what
you need...

 Let's see : what I am after is a way to hook up a few computers ( say, 6) with
 a few  HD (say,  6 x 400 GB), and setup across the whole thing a RAID that
 would let me :
  - keep running with no loss of data  in case of a disk or node failure (or
 minimal in case of a node failure)
 
  - can be accessed by clients over standard network protocols (NFS, CIFS, etc)
 
  - the clients see volumes of x GB (maybe 1 of the total size, maybe 3 of
 different sizes...doesn't matter)
 
 All this until hear seems doable with FBSD + GEOM architecture. Now the tricky
 ones :

May or may not. Do you want to have the drives attached to individual
machines, then exported via ggate, then mounted on each machine and then
RAID-ed together? This looks like it needs a large overhead in
administration. If you have the drives attached to individual machines
and then one machine that imports them all in some way (ggate) and
exports them via NFS and CIFS, then you have a single point of failure.

In truth, there appears to be only one volume manager that's close to
being usable, and that's ZFS in 7. But there's nothing automatic in the
way it can use the drives and (re) export them via NFS, etc.

There is no distributed file systems for FreeBSD.

  - scales linearly - if I add 90 storage hosts, the system doesnt get bogged
 down with the management of the disks / stripe distributoin

The only things you have with GEOM are low-level building blocks: RAID
transformations and network devices. If you calculate for yourself that,
(a silly example) if you create a RAID1 out of 90 hosts you can survive
the data being explicitely sent to each of the hosts individually, then
go ahead. There is no magic or smart behaviour involved anywhere.

  - I can add new hosts (from 6 to 10) and the new storage is available for the
 cluster. If I had LVM, I could simply add the new disks to the physical group,
 and then grow the logical volume... I don't see how 7.0's recursive
 partitioning can help me here Can you please explain ? 

Only ZFS can do that on 7.

In truth, FreeBSD is really bad for storage works, and probably noone
has ever done what you need (it's just not supported). The reasons are:

- there are no distributed file systems for freebsd (meaning ones that
have built-in support for operation on multiple nodes)
- UFS panics on the slightest IO error and is not mountable by multiple
hosts at the same time *at all*, even over gmirror
- gmirror over ggate sort-of works but ggate network and IO errors will
(at best) disconnect one of the drives and you'll need to manually
reconnect them to the gmirror. After that you'll need to rebuild the
whole drives (which is slow over the network). I.e. there's no automatic
failover.


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Re: OpenLDAP 2.3/pam_ldap/nss_ldap: not working in FreeBSD 7.0-PRE!

2007-10-27 Thread O. Hartmann

Alexandre Biancalana wrote:

On 10/26/07, O. Hartmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

playing with ldapsearch gets results as expected. Doing ldapsearch witch
-D and dn of the admin results in the whole DIT as expected, accessing
the DIT with uid=user,ou=users,dc=... the same. Accessing LDAP server
from client via LUMA (tool) is also ok.



Try to change the nss_base_passwd line from:

nss_base_passwd ou=users,dc=office,dc=de?one

to

nss_base_passwd ou=users,dc=office,dc=de?sub
  

Well,
on a test machine, I setup a testenvironment equal or nearly equal to 
that which is not working on a potentially production box. First of all, 
I think there is a misunderstanding in how to setup /etc/nsswitch.conf, 
because most trouble seems to be sourced there. When setting

#
# nsswitch.conf(5) - name service switch configuration file
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/nsswitch.conf,v 1.1 2006/05/03 15:14:47 ume Exp $
#
group: files ldap
group_compat: nis
hosts: files dns
networks: files
passwd: files ldap
passwd_compat: nis
shells: files
services: compat
services_compat: nis
protocols: files
rpc: files

restarting OpenLDAP results in this, but after two minutes or so it 
starts up (the time is inacceptable and it does not change anything 
reverting the order from 'files ldap' to 'ldap files' for passwd and 
group). The great question is: Do I need to have these entries? Neither 
in the nsswitch.conf manpage nor in nss_ldap manpage it's mentioned to 
set 'ldap' as an option, I took this from one of the  many tutorials out 
there.


Oct 27 15:55:27 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fldapi_sock/: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:27 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldap:///: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:27 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldaps:///: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:27 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fldapi_sock/: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:27 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldap:///: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:27 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldaps:///: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:27 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: reconnecting to LDAP 
server (sleeping 4 seconds)...
Oct 27 15:55:31 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fldapi_sock/: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:31 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldap:///: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:31 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldaps:///: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:31 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: reconnecting to LDAP 
server (sleeping 8 seconds)...
Oct 27 15:55:39 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fldapi_sock/: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:39 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldap:///: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:39 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldaps:///: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:39 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: reconnecting to LDAP 
server (sleeping 16 seconds)...
Oct 27 15:55:55 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fldapi_sock/: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:55 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldap:///: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:55 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldaps:///: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:55:55 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: reconnecting to LDAP 
server (sleeping 32 seconds)...
Oct 27 15:56:27 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fldapi_sock/: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:56:27 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldap:///: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:56:27 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: failed to bind to 
LDAP server ldaps:///: Can't contact LDAP server
Oct 27 15:56:27 20.6 thor slapd[81911]: nss_ldap: reconnecting to LDAP 
server (sleeping 64 seconds)...



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Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!

2007-10-27 Thread Jona Joachim
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:12:49 -0400
E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not anymore!  Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those 
 ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because 
 portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work.  It is not fun any 
 more!  Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or
 it fails all together.  I have forgotten the last time I updated my
 ports without any issues.  Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with
 rarian, they install files on the same directory.  Go figure.  Those
 were the days when it used to work.

From /usr/ports/UPDATING:

Portupgrade users:
# pkgdb -Ff
# portupgrade -f -o textproc/rarian textproc/scrollkeeper
# portupgrade -a

Seems like a PEBKAC.

From http://code.google.com/p/rarian/ :
Rarian (formerly Spoon) is a documentation meta-data library, designed
as a replacement for Scrollkeeper.

Not a portupgrade issue.


Best regards,
Jona


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build rhythms. I am the spirit with which your children and clowns
laugh in happy anarchy. I am chaos. I am alive, and tell you that you
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Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!

2007-10-27 Thread Bart Silverstrim



Jona Joachim wrote:

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:12:49 -0400
E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not anymore!  Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those 
ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because 
portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work.  It is not fun any 
more!  Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or

it fails all together.  I have forgotten the last time I updated my
ports without any issues.  Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with
rarian, they install files on the same directory.  Go figure.  Those
were the days when it used to work.


From /usr/ports/UPDATING:

Portupgrade users:
# pkgdb -Ff
# portupgrade -f -o textproc/rarian textproc/scrollkeeper
# portupgrade -a

Seems like a PEBKAC.

From http://code.google.com/p/rarian/ :
Rarian (formerly Spoon) is a documentation meta-data library, designed
as a replacement for Scrollkeeper.

Not a portupgrade issue.


Knowing how this will probably cause flame issues, it *could* be 
argued that it is a portupgrade issue and not necessarily a pebkac 
issue.  These tools are supposed to automate upgrade and figure and sort 
dependency issues and such automatically as much as possible.  Slowly I 
see more and more instances of people having to refer to UPDATING to do 
more manual alterations to sort issues out.


Where is the line drawn between too much manual supplemental fixes and 
people wanting to be able to issue a couple of commands to upgrade their 
system without breaking something, perhaps something they rely on in a 
production environment?


Just a thought.
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Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-27 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Hi Kris,

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 09:17 +0200, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 David J Brooks wrote:
  Bill Moran wrote:
  Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release.
  
  What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered 
  the 
  standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a compelling reason to 
  upgrade to one over the other?
 
 7.0 is the recommended choice; 6.3 is only for people who cannot update 
 to the new branch yet.
 
 http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf

I'll be loving 7.0-RELEASE. Good job!

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Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!

2007-10-27 Thread Adam J Richardson

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

P.U.Kruppa wrote:

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, E. J. Cerejo wrote:


Not anymore!  Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those
ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because
portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work.  It is not fun any
more!  Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or
it fails all together.  I have forgotten the last time I updated my
ports without any issues.  Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with
rarian, they install files on the same directory.

Did you have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING ?
(I guess you have got a problem with the latest gnome.) 



From my experience I think anyone upgrading on 8-CURRENT (and from

reports perhaps 7-) will have the same issue


I had this issue yesterday when upgrading Gnome on 6.2-RELEASE-p7. It's 
not just 7-FOO and 8-CURRENT that're affected.


The solution that worked for me was this:

1. Force uninstall scrollkeeper.
2. Manually install rarian.
3. pkgdb -F to fix the stale links to scrollkeeper.
4. Restart the portupgrade process.

HtH,
Adam J Richardson
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project management software for freebsd?

2007-10-27 Thread zbigniew szalbot

Hello,

I am looking for recommendation of software which could be installed 
from ports and which would help us register new ideas, be able to see if 
they have been started/completed, etc.


I did have a look at Horde but this is not what I am looking for. I do 
not want a simple task list. Rather something more like project 
management software (best if installed from ports but it is not really 
necessary). Many thanks in advance for your recommendations!


Kind regards,

Zbigniew Szalbot


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Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!

2007-10-27 Thread Chris
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:12:49 -0400
E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not anymore!  Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those 
 ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because 
 portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work.  It is not fun any 
 more!  Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or
 it fails all together.  I have forgotten the last time I updated my
 ports without any issues.  Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with
 rarian, they install files on the same directory.  Go figure.  Those
 were the days when it used to work.

This is one of the main reasons users are having a serious look at
Linux distros like Fedora or some Debian-ish  ones.

I have used (and still do) both flavors of the above and I have to tell
y, updating the installed apps is as easy as apt-get update ot yum
update/upgrade.

I used to love spending my Friday nights updating my FreeBSD ports -
then, as you are finding out - it's just getting tedious.

I'm unsure if there is the makings of a whole new way to update/upgrade
the ports, but it's something that should be considered.

Please - I know what some of you out there will say, Then why don't
you do it - I'm not criticizing, simply commenting on my experiences.

-- 
Best regards,
Chris
Registerd Linux user number 448639
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hardware not recognized

2007-10-27 Thread Robert Huff

Recently, I replaced the NICs on a machine (old card was slow
and throwing errors).  Per good reviews, I went with Intel.
However: the card is not recognized on boot, and I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:12:0: class=0x02 card=0x118a8086 chip=0x10798086 rev=0x03 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82546EB Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet Controller'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet

If I explicitly load if_em via loader.conf, everything's fine.
I'm guessing the identification codes aren't in the right
list.  Who do I talk to about this?
(By the way, count me as a converted true believer in em-based
NICs.) 

Robert Huff
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Re: hardware not recognized

2007-10-27 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 12:22:21PM -0400, Robert Huff wrote:
 
   Recently, I replaced the NICs on a machine (old card was slow
 and throwing errors).  Per good reviews, I went with Intel.
   However: the card is not recognized on boot, and I get:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:12:0:   class=0x02 card=0x118a8086 chip=0x10798086 
 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
 device = '82546EB Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet Controller'
 class  = network
 subclass   = ethernet
 
   If I explicitly load if_em via loader.conf, everything's fine.
   I'm guessing the identification codes aren't in the right
 list.  Who do I talk to about this?
   (By the way, count me as a converted true believer in em-based
 NICs.) 

Do you have 'device em' in you kernel config ?  If you don't you will
of course have to load if_em as a module via loader.conf.
('device em' should be in GENERIC, but if you have customized your kernel
you might not have it.)

If it is not that simple you will probably need to give more information,
like which version of FreeBSD you are using, because normally there should
be no difference between having a driver directly in the kernel or loaded as
a module.



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Re: project management software for freebsd?

2007-10-27 Thread Bahman M.
On 2007-10-27 zbigniew szalbot wrote:
 I am looking for recommendation of software which could be installed 
 from ports and which would help us register new ideas, be able to see
 if they have been started/completed, etc.
 
 I did have a look at Horde but this is not what I am looking for. I
 do not want a simple task list. Rather something more like project 
 management software (best if installed from ports but it is not
 really necessary). Many thanks in advance for your recommendations!

You may wish to take a look at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openproj.  Quoted from project's
description:
OpenProj by Projity is a desktop replacement of Microsoft Project.
OpenProj has equivalent functionality, a familiar user interface and
even opens existing MSProject files. OpenProj is interoperable with
Project, with a Gantt Chart and PERT chart etc

-- 
Bahman Movaqar

With and without,
And who'll deny it's what the fightings all about?
-Pink Floyd
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Re: project management software for freebsd?

2007-10-27 Thread Bahman M.
On 2007-10-27 Bahman M. wrote:
 On 2007-10-27 zbigniew szalbot wrote:
  I am looking for recommendation of software which could be
  installed from ports and which would help us register new ideas, be
  able to see if they have been started/completed, etc.
  
  I did have a look at Horde but this is not what I am looking for. I
  do not want a simple task list. Rather something more like project 
  management software (best if installed from ports but it is not
  really necessary). Many thanks in advance for your recommendations!
 
 You may wish to take a look at
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/openproj.  Quoted from project's
 description:
 OpenProj by Projity is a desktop replacement of Microsoft Project.
 OpenProj has equivalent functionality, a familiar user interface and
 even opens existing MSProject files. OpenProj is interoperable with
 Project, with a Gantt Chart and PERT chart etc
 

Forgot to add that I haven't tested OpenProj on FreeBSD yet.  But I
think as it's Java (Swing) based all you're required to have is Ant and
JDK.

-- 
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Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!

2007-10-27 Thread RW
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:38:39 -0500
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:12:49 -0400
 E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Not anymore!  Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of
  those ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's
  because portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work.  It is
  not fun any more!  Always an issue, either a port conflicts with
  another port or it fails all together.  I have forgotten the last
  time I updated my ports without any issues.  Today scrollkeeper is
  conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same directory.
  Go figure.  Those were the days when it used to work.
 
 This is one of the main reasons users are having a serious look at
 Linux distros like Fedora or some Debian-ish  ones.

 I have used (and still do) both flavors of the above and I have to
 tell y, updating the installed apps is as easy as apt-get update ot
 yum update/upgrade.

Of course it is, that's because someone has already done the work,
equivalent to what's in UPDATING, when the packages were built. If you
want to build from source you have to do it yourself. 

 I used to love spending my Friday nights updating my FreeBSD ports -
 then, as you are finding out - it's just getting tedious.

Sounds like rose-tinted glasses to me. Upgrading Gnome used to involve
running an script in single-user mode, and by the admission of the
authors, even that wasn't reliable. UPDATING is no more complex now
than it was in the past, less so if anything.  
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Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!

2007-10-27 Thread James
   Not anymore!  Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of
   those ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's
   because portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work.  It is
   not fun any more!  Always an issue, either a port conflicts with
   another port or it fails all together.  I have forgotten the last
   time I updated my ports without any issues.  Today scrollkeeper is
   conflicting with rarian, they install files on the same directory.
   Go figure.  Those were the days when it used to work.


What would you like to see from ports? I mean, in the great tradition of
BSD,
let's work out what the problem is and write a script.
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Re: hardware not recognized

2007-10-27 Thread Robert Huff
Erik Trulsson writes:

  Recently, I replaced the NICs on a machine (old card was slow
   and throwing errors).  Per good reviews, I went with Intel.
  However: the card is not recognized on boot, and I get:

  If I explicitly load if_em via loader.conf, everything's fine.
  
  Do you have 'device em' in you kernel config ?  If you don't you
  will of course have to load if_em as a module via loader.conf.

Custom kernel, no device em, -CURRENT.
However, it was my understanding anything probed at boot whose
PCI id was known would automatically have the appropriate driver
loaded.  Am I misinformed?


Robert Huff
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Re: can't upgrade - catch-22

2007-10-27 Thread Keith Seyffarth
 Make sure your ports tree is 100% up to date.

Got it, I think. Ran cvsup again, got a bunch of stuff...

 Uninstall portupgrade  all it's dependencies.

Have done, as far as I can tell.

 cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade  make install clean

Generates the same error mentioned previously - can't set default
X11BASE. Setting X11BASE in make.conf does not make a difference.

 Read and follow the instructions in UPDATING for updating xorg

Again, requires portupgrade, and it appears that just about anything
(including portupgrade) requires that X already be upgraded...

Keith
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Re: hardware not recognized

2007-10-27 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 01:26:57PM -0400, Robert Huff wrote:
 Erik Trulsson writes:
 
 Recently, I replaced the NICs on a machine (old card was slow
and throwing errors).  Per good reviews, I went with Intel.
 However: the card is not recognized on boot, and I get:
 
 If I explicitly load if_em via loader.conf, everything's fine.
   
   Do you have 'device em' in you kernel config ?  If you don't you
   will of course have to load if_em as a module via loader.conf.
 
   Custom kernel, no device em, -CURRENT.
   However, it was my understanding anything probed at boot whose
 PCI id was known would automatically have the appropriate driver
 loaded.  Am I misinformed?

You were misinformed.  The PCI-id is known only to the driver, so if the
driver is not loaded there is nothing which knows which driver to use.
(During boot each driver which is loaded gets asked for each PCI-id if
that id is something the driver knows about.  If there is some driver
which can handle the device, it gets to attach to the device.)

There are some situations where kernel modules are loaded 'automatically'.
One example is that if you have 'linux_enable=YES' in /etc/rc.conf then
the boot scripts will automatically load the Linux emulation kernel module
if it is not already loaded.

I think there has been some discussion about similarily having ifconfig(8)
automatically load the appropriate kernel module when trying to access
some unknown network interface, but I believe the conclusion was that there
were good reasons not to do this.


So, if you want to use an em(4) card then you need to have either
'device em' in your kernel config, or have 'if_em_load=YES' in
/boot/loader.conf
It doesn't really matter which one of these two methods you use.




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Atheros wireless

2007-10-27 Thread Necati Demir
Hi,

As a 6 year linux user, i am new to freebsd. :)
In my laptop i have a atheros wireless card. To use it, i compiled modules;

# cd /sys/modules/ath
# make; make load

# cd /sys/modules/ath_hal
# make; make load

# cd /sys/modules/ath_rate_sample
# make; make load

# cd /sys/modules/wlan
# make; make load

# cd /sys/modules/wlan_acl
# make; make load

# cd /sys/modules/wlan_wep
# make; make load

# cd /sys/modules/wlan_xauth
# make; make load

Then i added following lines to the /boot/loader.conf
if_ath_load=YES
ath_hal_load=YES
ath_rate_load=YES
wlan_load=YES
wlan_acl_load=YES
wlan_ccmp_load=YES
wlan_tkip_load=YES
wlan_wep_load=YES
wlan_xauth_load=YES


And i restarted my machine to be sure.

When i use kldstat command to see modules, i see this output;

# kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 19 0xc040 70794c   kernel
 21 0xc0b08000 2cf4 wlan_acl.ko
 31 0xc0b0b000 1b88 wlan_xauth.ko
 41 0xc2d1f000 16000linux.ko

Where is my if_ath module and the other ath modules? Where is the problem?
And of course, still my wireless does not work.



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Re: Atheros wireless

2007-10-27 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 08:51:20PM +0300, Necati Demir wrote:
 Hi,
 
 As a 6 year linux user, i am new to freebsd. :)
 In my laptop i have a atheros wireless card. To use it, i compiled modules;
 
 # cd /sys/modules/ath
 # make; make load
 
 # cd /sys/modules/ath_hal
 # make; make load
 
 # cd /sys/modules/ath_rate_sample
 # make; make load
 
 # cd /sys/modules/wlan
 # make; make load
 
 # cd /sys/modules/wlan_acl
 # make; make load
 
 # cd /sys/modules/wlan_wep
 # make; make load
 
 # cd /sys/modules/wlan_xauth
 # make; make load
 
 Then i added following lines to the /boot/loader.conf
 if_ath_load=YES
 ath_hal_load=YES
 ath_rate_load=YES
 wlan_load=YES
 wlan_acl_load=YES
 wlan_ccmp_load=YES
 wlan_tkip_load=YES
 wlan_wep_load=YES
 wlan_xauth_load=YES
 
 
 And i restarted my machine to be sure.
 
 When i use kldstat command to see modules, i see this output;
 
 # kldstat
 Id Refs AddressSize Name
  19 0xc040 70794c   kernel
  21 0xc0b08000 2cf4 wlan_acl.ko
  31 0xc0b0b000 1b88 wlan_xauth.ko
  41 0xc2d1f000 16000linux.ko
 
 Where is my if_ath module and the other ath modules? Where is the problem?
 And of course, still my wireless does not work.

The default kernel (GENERIC) already contains all the other modules. Kldstat
only lists those modules that have been loaded separately.  If you run
'kldstat -v' then all the modules, both those in the kernel, and those
loaded as modules, should be listed.

There was also no need for you to compile any modules since all of them should
already be installed by default anyway.  (Yes, even those which are included
directly in the kernel.)


As to why it does not work you have not given enough information.  What is
the output of 'ifconfig', 'pciconf -lv', and 'dmesg' ?



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Re: Now can't get past the copyright info. What next?

2007-10-27 Thread Lowell Gilbert
W. D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've got a FreeBSD 4.9 Samba file server that boots
 but hangs after the Regents of the University of California
 text.

 Is there some way to fix this?

 Boot from a CD?  Put the hard drive in another computer?

Those would be good things to try.
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Re: Atheros wireless

2007-10-27 Thread Necati Demir
On 27/10/2007, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 08:51:20PM +0300, Necati Demir wrote:
  Hi,
 
  As a 6 year linux user, i am new to freebsd. :)
  In my laptop i have a atheros wireless card. To use it, i compiled
 modules;
 
  # cd /sys/modules/ath
  # make; make load
 
  # cd /sys/modules/ath_hal
  # make; make load
 
  # cd /sys/modules/ath_rate_sample
  # make; make load
 
  # cd /sys/modules/wlan
  # make; make load
 
  # cd /sys/modules/wlan_acl
  # make; make load
 
  # cd /sys/modules/wlan_wep
  # make; make load
 
  # cd /sys/modules/wlan_xauth
  # make; make load
 
  Then i added following lines to the /boot/loader.conf
  if_ath_load=YES
  ath_hal_load=YES
  ath_rate_load=YES
  wlan_load=YES
  wlan_acl_load=YES
  wlan_ccmp_load=YES
  wlan_tkip_load=YES
  wlan_wep_load=YES
  wlan_xauth_load=YES
 
 
  And i restarted my machine to be sure.
 
  When i use kldstat command to see modules, i see this output;
 
  # kldstat
  Id Refs AddressSize Name
   19 0xc040 70794c   kernel
   21 0xc0b08000 2cf4 wlan_acl.ko
   31 0xc0b0b000 1b88 wlan_xauth.ko
   41 0xc2d1f000 16000linux.ko
 
  Where is my if_ath module and the other ath modules? Where is the
 problem?
  And of course, still my wireless does not work.

 The default kernel (GENERIC) already contains all the other modules.
 Kldstat
 only lists those modules that have been loaded separately.  If you run
 'kldstat -v' then all the modules, both those in the kernel, and those
 loaded as modules, should be listed.




There was also no need for you to compile any modules since all of them
 should
 already be installed by default anyway.  (Yes, even those which are
 included
 directly in the kernel.)



Thanks for the information.







As to why it does not work you have not given enough information.  What is
 the output of 'ifconfig', 'pciconf -lv', and 'dmesg' ?


The outputs:

# pciconf -lv

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x05 card=0xc0241631 chip=0x02f310de rev=0xa2
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= memory
subclass = RAM
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:1: class=0x05 card=0xc0241631 chip=0x02fa10de rev=0xa2
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= memory
subclass = RAM
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:2: class=0x05 card=0xc0241631 chip=0x02fe10de rev=0xa2
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= memory
subclass = RAM
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:3: class=0x05 card=0xc0241631 chip=0x02f810de rev=0xa2
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= memory
subclass = RAM
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:4: class=0x05 card=0xc0241631 chip=0x02f910de rev=0xa2
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= memory
subclass = RAM
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:5: class=0x05 card=0xc0241631 chip=0x02ff10de rev=0xa2
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= memory
subclass = RAM
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:6: class=0x05 card=0xc0241631 chip=0x027f10de rev=0xa2
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= memory
subclass = RAM
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:7: class=0x05 card=0xc0241631 chip=0x027e10de rev=0xa2
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= memory
subclass = RAM
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2:0: class=0x060400 card=0x0040 chip=0x02fc10de rev=0xa1
hdr=0x01
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= bridge
subclass = PCI-PCI
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:3:0: class=0x060400 card=0x0040 chip=0x02fd10de rev=0xa1
hdr=0x01
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= bridge
subclass = PCI-PCI
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:4:0: class=0x060400 card=0x0040 chip=0x02fb10de rev=0xa1
hdr=0x01
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= bridge
subclass = PCI-PCI
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:5:0: class=0x03 card=0xc0241631 chip=0x024710de rev=0xa2
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= display
subclass = VGA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:9:0: class=0x05 card=0xc0241631 chip=0x027010de rev=0xa2
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= memory
subclass = RAM
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:10:0:class=0x060100 card=0xc0241631 chip=0x026010de
rev=0xa3 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= bridge
subclass = PCI-ISA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:10:1:   class=0x0c0500 card=0xc0241631 chip=0x026410de
rev=0xa3 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= serial bus
subclass = SMBus
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:11:0:class=0x0c0310 card=0xc0241631 chip=0x026d10de
rev=0xa3 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= serial bus
subclass = USB
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:11:1:class=0x0c0320 card=0xc0241631 chip=0x026e10de
rev=0xa3 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= serial bus
subclass = USB
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:13:0:  class=0x01018a card=0xc0241631 chip=0x026510de
rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
class= mass storage
subclass = ATA

Re: Atheros wireless

2007-10-27 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 11:31:12PM +0300, Necati Demir wrote:
 On 27/10/2007, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 08:51:20PM +0300, Necati Demir wrote:
   Hi,
  
   As a 6 year linux user, i am new to freebsd. :)
   In my laptop i have a atheros wireless card. To use it, i compiled
  modules;
  
   # cd /sys/modules/ath
   # make; make load
  
   # cd /sys/modules/ath_hal
   # make; make load
  
   # cd /sys/modules/ath_rate_sample
   # make; make load
  
   # cd /sys/modules/wlan
   # make; make load
  
   # cd /sys/modules/wlan_acl
   # make; make load
  
   # cd /sys/modules/wlan_wep
   # make; make load
  
   # cd /sys/modules/wlan_xauth
   # make; make load
  
   Then i added following lines to the /boot/loader.conf
   if_ath_load=YES
   ath_hal_load=YES
   ath_rate_load=YES
   wlan_load=YES
   wlan_acl_load=YES
   wlan_ccmp_load=YES
   wlan_tkip_load=YES
   wlan_wep_load=YES
   wlan_xauth_load=YES
  
  
   And i restarted my machine to be sure.
  
   When i use kldstat command to see modules, i see this output;
  
   # kldstat
   Id Refs AddressSize Name
19 0xc040 70794c   kernel
21 0xc0b08000 2cf4 wlan_acl.ko
31 0xc0b0b000 1b88 wlan_xauth.ko
41 0xc2d1f000 16000linux.ko
  
   Where is my if_ath module and the other ath modules? Where is the
  problem?
   And of course, still my wireless does not work.
 
  The default kernel (GENERIC) already contains all the other modules.
  Kldstat
  only lists those modules that have been loaded separately.  If you run
  'kldstat -v' then all the modules, both those in the kernel, and those
  loaded as modules, should be listed.
 
 
 
 
 There was also no need for you to compile any modules since all of them
  should
  already be installed by default anyway.  (Yes, even those which are
  included
  directly in the kernel.)
 
 
 
 Thanks for the information.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 As to why it does not work you have not given enough information.  What is
  the output of 'ifconfig', 'pciconf -lv', and 'dmesg' ?
 
 
 The outputs:
 

[snip]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0:  class=0x02 card=0x3065168c chip=0x001c168c 
 rev=0x01
 hdr=0x00
 vendor   = 'Atheros Communications Inc.'
 class= network
 subclass = ethernet

That is a fairly new chip.  I don't know if it is supported yet.

 
 -
 # dmesg | grep -i ath
 
 ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
 ath0: Atheros 5424 mem 0xfedf-0xfedf irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1
 ath0: unable to attach hardware; HAL status 13
 device_attach: ath0 attach returned 6
 ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
 ath0: Atheros 5424 mem 0xfedf-0xfedf irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1
 ath0: unable to attach hardware; HAL status 13
 device_attach: ath0 attach returned 6
 interface if_ath.1 already present in the KLD 'kernel'!
 interface ath_rate.1 already present in the KLD 'kernel'
 


Here we see that the Atheros driver tries to attach, but the HAL claims
that this hardware revision is not supported, and thus it will not work.


If you are running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, you could try updating to either the
latest 6-STABLE, or the upcoming 7.0, both of which have a newer HAL.
If that doesn't help either I don't think there is much you can do.



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LaTeX oder teTeX

2007-10-27 Thread Christian Walther
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Hello,

a few years ago I got a good introduction to TeX, but for some reason
stopped using it. Now I want to pick up where I left. I found LaTeX and
teTeX in ports, so I wonder what the best tex distribution is.
According to the teTeX website there will be no further development (at
least not from its original author Thomas Esser). Is LaTeX a better
candidate?
There should be some support for (or by) LyX, because I would like to
use LyX to get start. I know that TeX has a steep learning curve and I
hope to reduce it with LyX so that I can dive into TeX while working on
my projects.

Regards
Christian
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Re: pkgdb -Ff and autoconf question...how do I respond?

2007-10-27 Thread John Murphy
I have a similar problem with gnu-automake, it seems to be required by
the kde meta port:

# pkg_info | grep kde-3
kde-3.5.7   The meta-port for KDE
kdeartwork-xscreensaver-kde-3.5.7 Support for xscreensaver blankers in KDE

# pkg_info | grep gnu-aut
gnu-automake-1.10   GNU Standards-compliant Makefile generator (GNU unmodified)

# portupgrade -a
cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/gnu-automake
** Package 'gnu-automake' has been removed from ports tree.
** Port marked as IGNORE: graphics/ImageMagick:
Presence of FPX breaks self-tests. Disable FPX or disable automatic 
tests.

# ll /usr/ports/devel/gnu-automake
ls: /usr/ports/devel/gnu-automake: No such file or directory

# pkgdb -Ff
---  Checking the package registry database
Stale origin: 'devel/gnu-automake': perhaps moved or obsoleted.
- The port 'devel/gnu-automake' was removed on 2007-09-10 because:
No longer required with new autotools system
- Hint:  gnu-automake-1.10 is required by the following package(s):
kde-3.5.7
- Hint: checking for overwritten files...
 - No files installed by gnu-automake-1.10 have been overwritten by other 
packages.
Deinstall gnu-automake-1.10 ? [no] yes
---  Deinstalling 'gnu-automake-1.10'
pkg_delete: package 'gnu-automake-1.10' is required by these other packages
and may not be deinstalled:
kde-3.5.7
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
! gnu-automake-1.10 (pkg_delete failed)
---  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed
Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/local/sbin/pkg_deinstall gnu-automake-1.10

I managed to get rid of gnu-autoconf by answering no to deinstall?
It then asked if I wanted to unregister it:

Unregister any of them? [no] yes
  Unregister gnu-autoconf-2.61 keeping the installed files intact? [no] yes
  - gnu-automake-1.10 is kept.
  -- Saving the gnu-autoconf-2.61's +CONTENTS file as 
/var/db/pkg/gnu-automake-1.10/+CONTENTS.gnu-autoconf-2.61
  -- Unregistering gnu-autoconf-2.61
  -- Done.
[Updating the pkgdb format:bdb_btree in /var/db/pkg ... - 724 packages found 
(-1 +0) (...) done]
Stale dependency: gnu-automake-1.10 - gnu-autoconf-2.61 (devel/gnu-autoconf):
cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/gnu-automake
- Deleted. (irrelevant)
Stale dependency: kde-3.5.7 - gnu-autoconf-2.61 (devel/gnu-autoconf):
- Deleted. (irrelevant)

But I don't get asked to unregister gnu-automake.

Can I force it, without breaking anything, somehow?

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Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!

2007-10-27 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 10:38:39AM -0500, Chris wrote:
 E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Not anymore!  Every time I cvsup my ports tree and I see all of those 
  ports that need to be updated my belly aches and that's because 
  portupgrade doesn't work the way it used to work.  It is not fun any 
  more!  Always an issue, either a port conflicts with another port or
  it fails all together.  I have forgotten the last time I updated my
  ports without any issues.  Today scrollkeeper is conflicting with
  rarian, they install files on the same directory.  Go figure.  Those
  were the days when it used to work.
 
 This is one of the main reasons users are having a serious look at
 Linux distros like Fedora or some Debian-ish  ones.

That's ironic, considering I used Debian because Fedora wasn't stable
enough, and switched to FreeBSD in part because even Debian wasn't stable
enough.

. . . and Debian itself is far more stable than the other Debian-ish
distros.


 
 I have used (and still do) both flavors of the above and I have to tell
 y, updating the installed apps is as easy as apt-get update ot yum
 update/upgrade.

. . . except when they break something.  It's a lot easier to fix broken
software on FreeBSD than with a binary packaged based Linux distribution,
in my (recent) experience.


 
 I used to love spending my Friday nights updating my FreeBSD ports -
 then, as you are finding out - it's just getting tedious.

I've never found updating the software on a system fun.  That's part of
the reason I find I prefer FreeBSD: it doesn't break shit as often, and
thus doesn't make it even *more* un-fun.

 I'm not criticizing, simply commenting on my experiences.

Likewise, the above are only my experiences.  I realize they are not
necessarily objectively true.

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Re: LaTeX oder teTeX

2007-10-27 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 11:51:25PM +, Christian Walther wrote:
 
 a few years ago I got a good introduction to TeX, but for some reason
 stopped using it. Now I want to pick up where I left. I found LaTeX and
 teTeX in ports, so I wonder what the best tex distribution is.
 According to the teTeX website there will be no further development (at
 least not from its original author Thomas Esser). Is LaTeX a better
 candidate?

It looks like the LaTeX in ports is even older than teTeX.

The best TeX distribution for UNIX these days is TeXLive. It is a very
complete TeX/LaTeX/ConTeXt distribution. You can
download an iso image here: http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html
You'll have to build the binaries yourself, because the pre-built
FreeBSD binaries are for 4.x, i.e. out of date. But it's not that difficult.

 There should be some support for (or by) LyX, because I would like to
 use LyX to get start. I know that TeX has a steep learning curve and I
 hope to reduce it with LyX so that I can dive into TeX while working on
 my projects.

If you're relatively new to the TeX world, start with the ConTeXt macro
package for TeX, because it is very actively developed. And it's easier
than plain TeX.

If you want something easier, and you don't care if it doesn't look quite
as nice as (La)TeX try OpenOffice or Koffice. 

Roland
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Name resolution

2007-10-27 Thread jekillen

Hello:
I have been trying to tame the use of the ports mechanisms.
I set up a  system with a static ip connection to the internet
and when I run:

pkg_add -r csup-without-gui (verbatim from the freebsd handbook I  
downloaded just a few days ago)


I get this:
Error: FTP Unable to get  
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.2-release/ 
Latest/csup-without-gui.tbz: No address record
pkg_add: unable to fetch  
'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.2-release/ 
Latest/csup-without-gui.tbz' by URL


I checked inetd.conf and resolv.conf.
ftp is working in inetd.conf but when I went to
look in resolv.conf, there was no file by that name.
So I created one with my local nameservers and the ISP's nameservers.
All of my servers are connected to local network and public. I have
the name servers set to respond to requests from public network only
(I do not want anyone finding out the address numbers I use on the
private network)
But I am not sure whether these changes require that I reboot the  
machine.


The connection is live and working. I can ping another of my static ip
addresses, and other machines running on the private nework. But
if I ping one of my websites by name the ping cannot find it. so I know
it is a resolver issue, with no name server running on this machine.

I have to assume there is a local resolver, but since it is just a  
library, and

not a process, as I understand it, I am thinking that something needs to
be redone to use the file with the changes.

This is because after adding the file /etc/resolv.conf I still get the  
above

complaints.

I am doing this to keep in step with FreeBSD and I have a lot of  
software I
want to install for use with email. In the past I have bypassed ports  
with

programs like Apache, php, mysql and have had little problems. But now
I am 'growing up' to the idea that managing changes and removals will
be much easier if I do use ports. I just need to figure out what it  
wants

and expects, and what I can and should expect.

For instance, If I want to install Apache with php with gd and a lot of
other extensions that have to be built separately by hand so php
can include them and/or use them, how is that accomplished with
ports? Or, suppose I have Apache already installed and want to
install ssl. In the manual method ssl has to be prebuilt and configured
specific to Apache before Apache is built. Could I expect a series of
configure questions from the ports installation process to pick and
choose what I want included, or how I want it configured?
Thanks in advance
Jeff K

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Re: Portupgrade used to be fun!!!

2007-10-27 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 05:34:03PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
  I have used (and still do) both flavors of the above and I have to tell
  y, updating the installed apps is as easy as apt-get update ot yum
  update/upgrade.
 
 . . . except when they break something.  It's a lot easier to fix broken
 software on FreeBSD than with a binary packaged based Linux distribution,
 in my (recent) experience.

I rarely see port breakage. If I do it's usually a case of PEBKAC, :-)

Having said that, switching between major versions of FreeBSD can be a
hassle with ports.

  I used to love spending my Friday nights updating my FreeBSD ports -
  then, as you are finding out - it's just getting tedious.
 
 I've never found updating the software on a system fun.  That's part of
 the reason I find I prefer FreeBSD: it doesn't break shit as often, and
 thus doesn't make it even *more* un-fun.

In my experience it is much easier to keep ports updated every other
week or so than to to it after a couple of months.

Only when switching between major versions of FreeBSD it is time for
drastic measures. I usually delete and reinstall all ports after making
such a switch. It is the best way to keep the amount of old cruft on the
system to a minimum.

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Re: Name resolution

2007-10-27 Thread RW
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:42:02 -0700
jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello:
 I have been trying to tame the use of the ports mechanisms.
 I set up a  system with a static ip connection to the internet
 and when I run:
 
 pkg_add -r csup-without-gui (verbatim from the freebsd handbook I  
 downloaded just a few days ago)
 
 I get this:
 Error: FTP Unable to get  
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.2-release/ 
 Latest/csup-without-gui.tbz: No address record

It's called cvsup-without-gui, but you don't actually need it because
csup (a rewrite in C of the non-gui version of cvsup) is in the base
system.
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Re: evil idea

2007-10-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-10-26 23:34, Astrodog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/26/07, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am running amd64 8-CURRENT and there are a few i386 only ports that I
 absolutely must have installed and at the same time since I have 4 GB of
 RAM all kinds of bizarreness is created if I downgrade to i386.   So
 here is the idea:   use qemu to create a virtual version of my machine
 (with less then 2GB or RAM) and install i386 8-CURRENT on it (I want to
 use -CURRENT for all my installs)

 Any thing I should watch out for here (I know I need to use NFS or
 something like it to share files between the host and guest OS's)
 
 There's actually a known system that will work for this. You can use
 your existing swap partition, as an extra root partition, installing
 there, then booting to that, then rebuild/install to your original
 partition. Its the same basic idea as the method for updating from
 4.x-7.x, and should be on the lists. (Note to docs, might be worth
 putting it somewhere.)

I don't think Aryeh wants to install i386 over his current amd64.

What he seems to be asking is if he can run *two* versions, one of
them as a virtualized host under qemu.  That should work, AFAIK.

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Re: can't upgrade - catch-22

2007-10-27 Thread Keith Seyffarth
 Why don't you just manually remove Xorg and then install it with
 portinstall?
 ie. pkg_delete -f xorg\*
 
 That'll remove all packages that start with the characters xorg.
 Install the newer version of Xorg then upgrade portupgrade, then upgrade the
 packages that depended on xorg.

Well, now that x is uninstalled, you still can't install it without
having already installed it... It still generates the 'can't set
default xbase' error.

Any recommendations now that X has been uninstalled?
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Re: Name resolution

2007-10-27 Thread jekillen


On Oct 27, 2007, at 4:54 PM, RW wrote:


On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:42:02 -0700
jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello:
I have been trying to tame the use of the ports mechanisms.
I set up a  system with a static ip connection to the internet
and when I run:

pkg_add -r csup-without-gui (verbatim from the freebsd handbook I
downloaded just a few days ago)

I get this:
Error: FTP Unable to get
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.2-release/
Latest/csup-without-gui.tbz: No address record


It's called cvsup-without-gui, but you don't actually need it because
csup (a rewrite in C of the non-gui version of cvsup) is in the base
system.


thank you; your right it is cvsup, but the handbook indicates that I
could use csup in place of cvsup in the command line on v6.2 and up.
 But that does not seem to effect the resolver issue (unless I am
mistaken here and the resolver is actually working and it is just the 
reference)

Jeff K

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Re: LaTeX oder teTeX

2007-10-27 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Roland Smith wrote:

On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 11:51:25PM +, Christian Walther wrote:
  

a few years ago I got a good introduction to TeX, but for some reason
stopped using it. Now I want to pick up where I left. I found LaTeX and
teTeX in ports, so I wonder what the best tex distribution is.
According to the teTeX website there will be no further development (at
least not from its original author Thomas Esser). Is LaTeX a better
candidate?



It looks like the LaTeX in ports is even older than teTeX.

The best TeX distribution for UNIX these days is TeXLive. It is a very
complete TeX/LaTeX/ConTeXt distribution. You can
download an iso image here: http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html
You'll have to build the binaries yourself, because the pre-built
FreeBSD binaries are for 4.x, i.e. out of date. But it's not that difficult.

  

There should be some support for (or by) LyX, because I would like to
use LyX to get start. I know that TeX has a steep learning curve and I
hope to reduce it with LyX so that I can dive into TeX while working on
my projects.



If you're relatively new to the TeX world, start with the ConTeXt macro
package for TeX, because it is very actively developed. And it's easier
than plain TeX.

If you want something easier, and you don't care if it doesn't look quite
as nice as (La)TeX try OpenOffice or Koffice. 


Roland
  
teTeX is a standard distribution of TeX and Latex for Unix and Unix like 
OS. You need to install teTeX-base which will get you everything you 
need. Of course it is old since I believe that TeX code is completely 
frozen since 2001. On the other note teTeX distribution is discontinued 
last year in favor of TeXLive. TeXLive is not in ports as there are many 
issues with dependencies. Since TeX is a very old peace of software many 
things depend on teTeX . People work actively on porting TeXLive but I 
do not know of single OS or a Linux distro that recommends it at the 
moment.


You can run TeXLive from live DVD however. You can get it from ctan web 
site.
I have teTeX on 3 FreeBSD boxes and one OpenBSD box and I also use 
TeXLive as I am using the Latex class of presentation powerdot
which is not ported for FreeBSD and I could not get it install manually 
since it requires some new fonts not contained in the teTeX version 
which is ported for FreeBSD.


OpenBSD will also not see TeXLive at least until 4.3
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Re: DVD distribution

2007-10-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 01:47:20AM +0200, Michel Ali wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I’m an IT manager.
 
 I am just wondering why you do not have a DVD distribution. [I know about
 workarounds]
 
 Could you do something about that, it would be really helpful and handy?

FreeBSD per se does not have any distribution.
FreeBSD only puts out the ISO-s that are available free on
the main or one of the mirror sites.

There are some companies that pick up the ISO images and make
a distribution.   That is permitted under the FreeBSD license.
Usually they sell it for a bit over cost and include a printed
version of the Handbook.   Most of them contribute a portion of
their receipts back to the FreeBSD foundation to help in development.

So, either you can convince one of the packaging companies - they are
listed in the web site - to make a DVD distibution or you can start
doing it and selling it yourself.

jerry

 
 Thanks a lot.
 
 Michel Ali
 
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Re: evil idea

2007-10-27 Thread mv
Hello,

Would installing Freebsd i386 within a jail on an amd64 host solve his 
problem?

I have been running amd64 since it was first released and am quite pleased 
with its performance and stability.   However, as a desktop there are still a 
number of programs that are only available on i386 and for a number of 
reasons I would prefer to run them within a jail.  I've searched the Internet 
and have not found anybody who has done it.

My guess is that running a i386 program within a jail would run faster and 
perhaps be more stable than running the same program within qemu.

Any tips on desirability, feasibility or how to do it would be greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks


On Sat, 27 October 2007 20:33:44 Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2007-10-26 23:34, Astrodog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/26/07, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am running amd64 8-CURRENT and there are a few i386 only ports that I
  absolutely must have installed and at the same time since I have 4 GB of
  RAM all kinds of bizarreness is created if I downgrade to i386.   So
  here is the idea:   use qemu to create a virtual version of my machine
  (with less then 2GB or RAM) and install i386 8-CURRENT on it (I want to
  use -CURRENT for all my installs)
 
  Any thing I should watch out for here (I know I need to use NFS or
  something like it to share files between the host and guest OS's)
 
  There's actually a known system that will work for this. You can use
  your existing swap partition, as an extra root partition, installing
  there, then booting to that, then rebuild/install to your original
  partition. Its the same basic idea as the method for updating from
  4.x-7.x, and should be on the lists. (Note to docs, might be worth
  putting it somewhere.)

 I don't think Aryeh wants to install i386 over his current amd64.

 What he seems to be asking is if he can run *two* versions, one of
 them as a virtualized host under qemu.  That should work, AFAIK.

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Re: evil idea

2007-10-27 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
mv wrote:
 Hello,

 Would installing Freebsd i386 within a jail on an amd64 host solve his 
 problem?

 I have been running amd64 since it was first released and am quite pleased 
 with its performance and stability.   However, as a desktop there are still a 
 number of programs that are only available on i386 and for a number of 
 reasons I would prefer to run them within a jail.  I've searched the Internet 
 and have not found anybody who has done it.

 My guess is that running a i386 program within a jail would run faster and 
 perhaps be more stable than running the same program within qemu.

 Any tips on desirability, feasibility or how to do it would be greatly 
 appreciated
   

When I was first looking at this that was my idea but as far I can tell
the jail needs to run the same kernel as the jailing OS.

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Re: DVD distribution

2007-10-27 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Jerry McAllister wrote:

On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 01:47:20AM +0200, Michel Ali wrote:

  

Hi,

I’m an IT manager.

I am just wondering why you do not have a DVD distribution. [I know about
workarounds]

Could you do something about that, it would be really helpful and handy?



FreeBSD per se does not have any distribution.
FreeBSD only puts out the ISO-s that are available free on
the main or one of the mirror sites.

There are some companies that pick up the ISO images and make
a distribution.   That is permitted under the FreeBSD license.
Usually they sell it for a bit over cost and include a printed
version of the Handbook.   Most of them contribute a portion of
their receipts back to the FreeBSD foundation to help in development.

So, either you can convince one of the packaging companies - they are
listed in the web site - to make a DVD distibution or you can start
doing it and selling it yourself.

jerry

  

Thanks a lot.

Michel Ali

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Actually FreeBSD has DVD distribution. I think, I saw on the internet 
that somebody in Germany was selling FreeBSD DVDs.
There are lots of Germans on this mailing list so they might give you 
better answer.

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Re: evil idea

2007-10-27 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
What would be ideal is if you can tell the OS to treat one CPU as a
virtual machine and run that inside a jail and/or qemu wrapper (wrapper
in that it looks like it is a seperate [emulated] machine to the host OS
but in reality it is just running on partioned CPU and memory on the
same machine)

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Re: DVD distribution

2007-10-27 Thread Chris
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:19:01 -0700
Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jerry McAllister wrote:
  On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 01:47:20AM +0200, Michel Ali wrote:
 

  Hi,
 
  I’m an IT manager.
 
  I am just wondering why you do not have a DVD distribution. [I
  know about workarounds]
 
  Could you do something about that, it would be really helpful and
  handy? 
 
  FreeBSD per se does not have any distribution.
  FreeBSD only puts out the ISO-s that are available free on
  the main or one of the mirror sites.
 
  There are some companies that pick up the ISO images and make
  a distribution.   That is permitted under the FreeBSD license.
  Usually they sell it for a bit over cost and include a printed
  version of the Handbook.   Most of them contribute a portion of
  their receipts back to the FreeBSD foundation to help in
  development.
 
  So, either you can convince one of the packaging companies - they
  are listed in the web site - to make a DVD distibution or you can
  start doing it and selling it yourself.
 
  jerry
 

  Thanks a lot.
 
  Michel Ali
 
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 Actually FreeBSD has DVD distribution. I think, I saw on the internet 
 that somebody in Germany was selling FreeBSD DVDs.
 There are lots of Germans on this mailing list so they might give you 
 better answer.

Perhaps the Op might mean, Why isn't there a DVD ISO to download?
Granted, I didn't see the original post - perhaps the Op didn't mean
that at all.


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Re: DVD distribution

2007-10-27 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman

  
 Actually FreeBSD has DVD distribution. I think, I saw on the internet
 that somebody in Germany was selling FreeBSD DVDs.
 There are lots of Germans on this mailing list so they might give you
 better answer.
Localized or allow user localization?

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Re: can't upgrade - catch-22

2007-10-27 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Saturday 27 October 2007, Keith Seyffarth said:
  Why don't you just manually remove Xorg and then install it with
  portinstall?
  ie. pkg_delete -f xorg\*
 
  That'll remove all packages that start with the characters xorg.
  Install the newer version of Xorg then upgrade portupgrade, then
  upgrade the packages that depended on xorg.

 Well, now that x is uninstalled, you still can't install it without
 having already installed it... It still generates the 'can't set
 default xbase' error.

 Any recommendations now that X has been uninstalled?

try: setenv X11BASE /usr/X11R6

then rebuild portupgrade. 

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Re: evil idea

2007-10-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-10-27 21:49, mv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/26/07, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am running amd64 8-CURRENT and there are a few i386 only ports that I
  absolutely must have installed and at the same time since I have
  4 GB of RAM all kinds of bizarreness is created if I downgrade
  to i386.   So here is the idea:   use qemu to create a virtual
  version of my machine (with less then 2GB or RAM) and install
  i386 8-CURRENT on it (I want to use -CURRENT for all my installs)

 On Sat, 27 October 2007 20:33:44 Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
  I don't think Aryeh wants to install i386 over his current amd64.
 
  What he seems to be asking is if he can run *two* versions, one of
  them as a virtualized host under qemu.  That should work, AFAIK.

 Would installing Freebsd i386 within a jail on an amd64 host solve his
 problem?

I don't know if that would 'solve' the problem, but one major difference
from qemu is that a jailed host runs the same kernel with the master.

This means that i386 programs do not run in 'native' i386 mode, but in
emulated mode.  The FreeBSD kernel already includes support for running
i386 programs in emulated mode, but since I haven't done this I am not
sure how feasible or useful it is.

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Re: Name resolution

2007-10-27 Thread James
 
 thank you; your right it is cvsup, but the handbook indicates that I
 could use csup in place of cvsup in the command line on v6.2 and up.
   But that does not seem to effect the resolver issue (unless I am
 mistaken here and the resolver is actually working and it is just the
 reference)
 Jeff K



Try pinging google. If it works, great. If not, then the simplest way I've
found to read local changes to resolv.conf  into the system is to boot into
single user mode and then ctrl-d out of it.

Just type:
shutdown NOW

And you'll be taken to single user mode.

Assuming your resolv.conf is correct, great. If not, we'll work on fixing
that.

James
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Re: Panic With Large Network Copy

2007-10-27 Thread Scott Willson


On Jun 4, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Scott Willson wrote:



On May 29, 2007, at 4:26 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote:


On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 03:36:49PM -0700, Scott Willson wrote:

I am seeing hard (often no core dump) crashes on a new AMD64 box
running 6.2 RELEASE. When I try to rsync 10+ GB of backup files to
the new box, I can reliably crash it after about 20 minutes; often
quicker if I do something else intensive at the same time, like
compile MySQL. Here are the box specs:
ASUS M2NPV-VM motherboard
AMD A64 3800+ 2.4G CPU
...



Most times, I don't even get a core dump. Here's one I did get:
panic: double fault
...



#9  0x804371f0 in m_freem (mb=0x0) at uma.h:303
#10 0x80634125 in nve_ospackettx (ctx=0xff00798aac00,
id=0xb19ea6d0, success=0) at /usr/src/sys/dev/nve/if_nve.c: 
1551


This looks like a nve driver bug to me.  You may wish to try the  
nfe driver.


Kris


OK, my box is running nicely now. The nfe driver was indeed a good  
idea, thanks! Here are the details if anyone else has similar  
problems.


10baseT hub + nve = kernal panics under high load
This is the default FreeBSD 6.2 RELEASE configuration.

10baseT hub + nfe + e100phy patch = errors under high load (tx v2  
error 0x6204UNDERFLOW, watchdog timeout)

http://www.se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/~shigeaki/software/freebsd-nfe.html
This is a replacement driver + recommended path for my hardware. No  
panics, but many errors.


10baseT hub + nfe with no patches = errors under high load (tx v2  
error 0x6204UNDERFLOW, watchdog timeout)


10/100/1000baseT switch + nfe + e100phy patch = errors under high  
load (tx v2 error 0x6204UNDERFLOW, watchdog timeout)


10/100/1000baseT switch + nfe = No errors!
This is a new switch and the nfe driver with no patch. In dmesg, I  
see 'ukphy0' when I boot.


So, as you may have surmised, my motherboard + an old 10baseT hub  
doesn't work right with any driver. I replaced my very old hub with  
a new switch, and I am now running the nfe driver with ukphy0. This  
combination works great.


Well, turns out after all that, the root cause was something else  
again. Fiddling with the driver and the switch helped matters, but I  
still experienced random drops and warnings. Once I installed Gnome,  
the system began to bomb regularly with oversized frames.


Turns out that both the USB controller and the NIC were on the same  
IRQ. I'm not a hardware engineer (obviously) but it seems that  
software that probed the USB ports would cause problems for the  
Ethernet NIC.


I don't need USB at all, so I disabled it in the BIOS, and no problems  
for real this time. Just wanted to post this for the equally clueless.


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The FreeBSD Diary: 2007-10-07 - 2007-10-27

2007-10-27 Thread Dan Langille
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Re: project management software for freebsd?

2007-10-27 Thread P.U.Kruppa

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, zbigniew szalbot wrote:


Hello,

I am looking for recommendation of software which could be installed from 
ports and which would help us register new ideas, be able to see if they have 
been started/completed, etc.


I did have a look at Horde but this is not what I am looking for. I do not 
want a simple task list. Rather something more like project management 
software (best if installed from ports but it is not really necessary). Many 
thanks in advance for your recommendations!
Some content management systems come with project management 
abilities (ports/deskutils/egroupware comes to my mind, but 
probably there are more). They will make your projects available 
via intranet or internet.


Greetings,

Uli.



Kind regards,

Zbigniew Szalbot


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