Re: Manual routing

2007-12-08 Thread Erik Norgaard

Celso Viana wrote:


I have 2 machines (A and B) interconnected by a cable network
crossover; added the following addresses on the network card:

Machine A: 192.168.1.1/24
Machine B: 10.10.1.1/24

Question: How would for these machines to communicate, adding routes manually?


The easiest would be to configure them for the same subnet, there is no 
point in having them on separate subnets and the same physical network.


Cheers, Erik

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Re: Scanner Compatibility

2007-12-08 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Michaël Grünewald wrote:

Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  

I use Epson Perfection 1670 and it works like a charm. Unfortunately
it does require binary blob which might be something you want to
avoid.



What is that binary blob stuff? Do you mean by this a binary image
that should be loaded in kernel --- after being correctly wrapped just
like some wifi card drivers? If this is the case, there is no chance
to make the blob work under amd64, is there?

  

Ok,
Let me clarify firstly some things. Firmware is a binary file which you 
extract in this case from the M$ .cab  file supplied to you by
scanner manufacturer. You place this file on proper file 
/usr/local/share/sane/snapscan. (So it is different than a kernel module 
for Wi drivers that you kldload into your kernel) I have never bothered 
to understand scanning as much as I tried to understand Unix printing 
but I believe that this file is used by sane to speak proprietary 
language of your particular scanner. In essence your scanner uses this 
file to explain the Sane the page layout and graphics. So it is not a 
driver! I am not sure if there is such thing as Command  Scanner 
Language (you are probably familiar with Command Printer Language) and 
something equivalent to Postscript language in world of printers.



Anyhow, if you are serious about security you should never use any type 
of binaries supported by hardware vendors. (I sound if I have been using 
too much OpenBSD lately :-) )


I see no reason why should sane-backhands work any different on amd64. 
On another hand if you are using amd64 that tells me that you are 
running serious production servers so why would you want to attach a 
scanner to  such  machine is not really clear to me.
You may attach a scanner to a workstation running i386 and possibly make 
scanning available  on the local network but never to serious production 
server.





If you need step by step instructions how to install scanner you
might contact me via private mail.



I am very interested in this kind of technical information, since I do
foreplan to buy a scanner. If you really think[1] this discussion would
be a nuisance for the list, would you be kind enough to CC me?

[1] One can consider that even if the discussion topic does not hit
most of its members, it can be useful to contribute here these
technical details because they will be archived and could then be
referenced in future discussions, searched, etc.
  
As I said before the handbook is excellent but here is my quick and 
dirty step by step how to for scanners.



For the purposes of this how to I will assume that your scanner is 
attached via USB to your workstation. (You can read the handbook about 
SCSI scanners)



Step 1  Make sure  your  kernel  contains  the  following (Generic 
Kernel will contain it!!!)


device usb
device uhci
device ohci
device uscanner

Step 2 Edit /etc/devfs.conf with the permissions

perm ugen* 0666
perm uscanner* 0666

This is of course huge security risk and there are much better ways to 
give access to sane-backhands and common users to device nodes.




Step 3 Reboot the computer

Step 4 Type $ scanimage -L as a common user to get a list of detected 
scanners. You should get something as


[pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ scanimage -L
device `snapscan:/dev/uscanner0' is a EPSON EPSON Scanner flatbed scanner


Step 5 Type $ scanimage -T as a common user to test the installation. 
You should get something like this if your

scanner does not need binary blob.

[pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ scanimage -T
scanimage: scanning image of size 2552x3507 pixels at 24 bits/pixel
scanimage: acquiring RGB frame, 8 bits/sample
scanimage: reading one scanline, 7656 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: reading one byte...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 2 bytes... PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 4 bytes... PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 8 bytes... PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 16 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 32 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 64 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 128 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 256 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 512 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 1024 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 2048 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 4096 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 8192 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 8191 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 4095 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 2047 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 1023 bytes...  PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 511 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 255 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 127 bytes...   PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 63 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 31 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 15 bytes...PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 7 bytes... PASS
scanimage: stepped read, 3 bytes... PASS


Note: All of the above is very well explained in man scanimage


Step 6 Read 

Manual routing

2007-12-08 Thread Celso Viana
Hi All,

I have 2 machines (A and B) interconnected by a cable network
crossover; added the following addresses on the network card:

Machine A: 192.168.1.1/24
Machine B: 10.10.1.1/24

Question: How would for these machines to communicate, adding routes manually?

Thanks

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Re: Manual routing

2007-12-08 Thread Danielisz Laszlo
For example you can try using 
192.168.1.1/24 on A and 192.168.1.2/24 on B and it will work!

- Original Message 
From: Celso Viana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2007 9:03:03 AM
Subject: Manual routing


Hi All,

I have 2 machines (A and B) interconnected by a cable network
crossover; added the following addresses on the network card:

Machine A: 192.168.1.1/24
Machine B: 10.10.1.1/24

Question: How would for these machines to communicate, adding routes
 manually?

Thanks

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BSD User: 51318
http://www.bsdcounter.org

63 8404-8559
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Re: Manual routing

2007-12-08 Thread Dave Curry
On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 05:03:03AM -0300, Celso Viana wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have 2 machines (A and B) interconnected by a cable network
 crossover; added the following addresses on the network card:
 
 Machine A: 192.168.1.1/24
 Machine B: 10.10.1.1/24
 
 Question: How would for these machines to communicate, adding routes manually?
 
 Thanks
 
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 BSD User: 51318
 http://www.bsdcounter.org
 
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There shouldn't need to be any changes to the routing tables needed if they are
directly connected.  If they do need to be on seperate subnets, then you can add
aliases to each interface so that they see each other as on the same subnet.

On machine A:
# ifconfig interface alias 10.10.1.2 255.255.255.0 (Any number that isn't 0, 
1, or 255 ought 
to work for the interface address but we'll use 2 for simplicity) 

On machine B:
# ifconfig interface alias 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0

Hopefully this helps you.

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Re: Scanner Compatibility

2007-12-08 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 8 Dec 2007, Micha?l Gr?newald wrote:


Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I use Epson Perfection 1670 and it works like a charm. Unfortunately
it does require binary blob which might be something you want to
avoid.


What is that binary blob stuff? Do you mean by this a binary image
that should be loaded in kernel --- after being correctly wrapped just
like some wifi card drivers? If this is the case, there is no chance
to make the blob work under amd64, is there?


Some scanners have no built-in firmware.  The driver downloads the 
firmware to the scanner on initialization.


The best way to avoid problems with a firmware download is to avoid 
equipment that uses it.  The SANE documentation should help you identify 
scanners that require a firmware download; my Epson 1640SU doesn't, for 
example.


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looking for ideas: triple booting and personal data

2007-12-08 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
I am creating a triple boot machine (FB, Linux, Vista) and want to keep
all non-system files (i.e. any thing I made vs. was installed by the OS
[including 3rd party software]) avaible (r/w) by all three OS's.   I
know I can do this by putting /usr/home on a NTFS partition but am
worried about the slowness of ntfs-3g/ntfsprogs (90% of the time I am in
FreeBSD and have several things going that need decent disk performence
[bit torrents]).  Any ideas? 

BTW an added plus would be some way to automatically have one or all the
OS's maintain archival copies for backup purposes
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Re: Scanner Compatibility

2007-12-08 Thread Michaël Grünewald
Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Let me clarify firstly some things.

Thank you very much for this very detailed answer, it's very nice
from you!

  [SNIP]

 In essence your scanner uses this file to explain the Sane the page
 layout and graphics. So it is not a driver!

If I do understand, this seems a close analogue of PPL files in the
printing world, right?

[SNAP]

 I see no reason why should sane-backhands work any different on
 amd64.

Now you made clear that these binary blobs consist of data (and not
of a cpu program), I do not see either. I will soon be able to tell :)

 On another hand if you are using amd64 that tells me that you
 are running serious production servers so why would you want to attach
 a scanner to  such  machine is not really clear to me.

In fact, I have no serious reason to run amd64 since I use my amd64
computer as a ``user workstation'' and the main benefit from running
amd64 is to manage huge amounts of RAM --- as far as I can tell from
the various docs I have read. My reasons to run amd64 are mainly geeky
or childish :)

 As I said before the handbook is excellent but here is my quick and
 dirty step by step how to for scanners.

[SNIP]

Thanks a lot for this con tribution,
-- 
Cheers,
Michaël
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Re: looking for ideas: triple booting and personal data

2007-12-08 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
Frank Staals wrote:
 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
 I am creating a triple boot machine (FB, Linux, Vista) and want to keep
 all non-system files (i.e. any thing I made vs. was installed by the OS
 [including 3rd party software]) avaible (r/w) by all three OS's.   I
 know I can do this by putting /usr/home on a NTFS partition but am
 worried about the slowness of ntfs-3g/ntfsprogs (90% of the time I am in
 FreeBSD and have several things going that need decent disk performence
 [bit torrents]).  Any ideas?
 BTW an added plus would be some way to automatically have one or all the
 OS's maintain archival copies for backup purposes
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 For my dual-booting laptop ( FreeBSD , WinXP ) I'm using ext2 for my
 data partiton. Works like a charm for me ( Using
 http://www.fs-driver.org/ for WinXP and sysutils/e2fsprogs ) Only
 thing that can be anoying is when FreeBSD crashes and I have to fsck
 my entire data partiton which can take a while. But possibly this can
 be avoided by using ext3 instead of ext2 (But the utilities are the
 same ).

If that is the program I am thinking of I tried it on vista and it
doesn't work (I tried a fair number of things that claimed to support
extX FS's and all of them where a) non-funcitonal on vista [even in
compat mode], b) didn't allow for direct mounting in windows, c) where
reasonable priced [less then $50])
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Re: looking for ideas: triple booting and personal data

2007-12-08 Thread Frank Staals

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

I am creating a triple boot machine (FB, Linux, Vista) and want to keep
all non-system files (i.e. any thing I made vs. was installed by the OS
[including 3rd party software]) avaible (r/w) by all three OS's.   I
know I can do this by putting /usr/home on a NTFS partition but am
worried about the slowness of ntfs-3g/ntfsprogs (90% of the time I am in
FreeBSD and have several things going that need decent disk performence
[bit torrents]).  Any ideas? 


BTW an added plus would be some way to automatically have one or all the
OS's maintain archival copies for backup purposes
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For my dual-booting laptop ( FreeBSD , WinXP ) I'm using ext2 for my 
data partiton. Works like a charm for me ( Using 
http://www.fs-driver.org/ for WinXP and sysutils/e2fsprogs ) Only thing 
that can be anoying is when FreeBSD crashes and I have to fsck my entire 
data partiton which can take a while. But possibly this can be avoided 
by using ext3 instead of ext2 (But the utilities are the same ).


Good luck,

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relay host in sendmail?

2007-12-08 Thread jekillen

Hello:
I am using Absolute BSD, Second Ed.
and am looking in the section on Sendmail.
I cannot find where to specify a relay host.
I have a hosts that originate mail to remote
recipients but use a mail hub (Postfix) on
another machine on local network to
relay this mail to the outside. It is not spam.
These messages will be used to verify web
client supplied e-mail addresses.
Thank you in advance;
Jeff K

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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 inside VMWare Fusion ?

2007-12-08 Thread Doug Poland
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:38:31PM +, Michael Doyle wrote:

 On 6 Dec 2007, at 15:47, Doug Poland wrote:

 Michael Doyle wrote:
 Has anyone got FreeBSD 6.2 to load as a guest OS in VMWare Fusion
  on a new MacBook Pro ?

 I have been running 6.2 on an iMac since early betas of VMWare
 Fusion

 If so, could they give me pointers on what I need to do, since I
 have tried this and failed.

 Could you give some specific error messages?

 I start a new Virtual Machine, select FreeBSD as the OS, FreeBSD 6
 the specific version (from the VM Ware Fusion menus)

 Then insert a FreeBSD 6.2 install disk in the drive and run through
 the setup process.  Select use entire disk, no boot manager, 
 install the Developer package, no additional packages... the
 install runs to completion.

 However, when, after installing the OS, I let the virtual machine
 reboot, it hangs after the POST without displaying the FreeBSD
 hardware probe messages.  No errors, nothing. It doesn't even get as
 far as the menu where you  select normal, or acpi disabled, etc.

 I downloaded an image created by someone else of a VMWare
 Workstation image, and that runs on my Mac under VMWare Fusion,
 but I am unable to compile and  install VMWare Tools (make all
 succeeded, but make install failed with a file not found  error...)

 If you like I can copy/paste those errors in a seperate email.
 I don't understand why I cannot create my own bootable VMWare image
 though ?

That is strange.  For testing, I just built a new VM using,

  VMWare Fusion v1.0 (51384)
  Mac OS X 10.5.1
  PC-BSD 1.4

All went as expected.  VMWare Fusion even survived the OS migration
from 10.4 to 10.5.  My only suggestions at this point would be...

* Try another OS as a guest, see if you get similar results
* Re-install VMWare Fusion
* Check the VMWare forums for similar issues.
* Purchase the latest Fusion version

Hope that helps...


-- 
Regards,
Doug




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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 inside VMWare Fusion ?

2007-12-08 Thread Doug Poland
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:38:31PM +, Michael Doyle wrote:
 
 On 6 Dec 2007, at 15:47, Doug Poland wrote:
 
 Michael Doyle wrote:
 Has anyone got FreeBSD 6.2 to load as a guest OS in VMWare Fusion  
 on a new MacBook Pro ?
 
 I have been running 6.2 on an iMac since early betas of VMWare Fusion
 
 If so, could they give me pointers on what I need to do, since I  
 have tried this and failed.
 
 Could you give some specific error messages?
 
 I start a new Virtual Machine, select FreeBSD as the OS, FreeBSD 6 as
 the specific version (from the VM Ware Fusion menus)
 
 Then insert a FreeBSD 6.2 install disk in the drive and run through
 the setup process.  Select use entire disk, no boot manager, 
 install the Developer package, no additional packages... the install
 runs to completion.
 
 However, when, after installing the OS, I let the virtual machine
 reboot, it hangs after the POST without displaying the FreeBSD
 hardware probe messages.  No errors, nothing. It doesn't even get as
 far as the menu where you  select normal, or acpi disabled, etc.
 
 I downloaded an image created by someone else of a VMWare Workstation
 image, and that runs on my Mac under VMWare Fusion,  but I am unable
 to compile and  install VMWare Tools (make all succeeded, but make
 install failed with a file not found  error...)
 
 If you like I can copy/paste those errors in a seperate email. I don't
 understand why I cannot create my own bootable VMWare image though ?
 
That is strange.  For testing, I just built a new VM using,

  VMWare Fusion v1.0 (51384)
  Mac OS X 10.5.1
  PC-BSD 1.4

All went as expected.  VMWare Fusion even survived the OS mirgration
from 10.4 to 10.5.  My only suggestions at this point would be...

* Try another OS as a guest, see if you get similar results
* Re-install VMWare Fusion
* Check the VMWare forums for similar issues.
* Purchage the latest Fusion version

Hope that helps...

-- 
Regards,
Doug
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Re: Manual routing

2007-12-08 Thread Wojciech Puchar


I have 2 machines (A and B) interconnected by a cable network
crossover; added the following addresses on the network card:

Machine A: 192.168.1.1/24
Machine B: 10.10.1.1/24

Question: How would for these machines to communicate, adding routes manually?


no way. select same subnet



Thanks

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There shouldn't need to be any changes to the routing tables needed if they are
directly connected.  If they do need to be on seperate subnets, then you can add
aliases to each interface so that they see each other as on the same subnet.

On machine A:
# ifconfig interface alias 10.10.1.2 255.255.255.0 (Any number that isn't 0, 
1, or 255 ought
to work for the interface address but we'll use 2 for simplicity)

On machine B:
# ifconfig interface alias 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0

Hopefully this helps you.

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Re: DVD's and FreeBSD

2007-12-08 Thread Wojciech Puchar

no problems yo play anything that is video with mplayer - including DVDs.


On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Gary Kline wrote:



Update:

Well, totem chokes when trying to play a DVD, but kmplayer works
--altho with fewer control flow options.  And after compiling
in device atapicam into my KERNCONF, k3b still chokes.   So.
For toys, Linux; for superior [unbeatable] stability, FreeBSD
is still first rate.

gary


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Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-08 Thread Barnaby Scott

Peter Schuller wrote:

My understanding from the reading I have done is that in a situation like
this where power outages are a danger (and presuably having the UPS signal
the server to shut down gracefully is not practical), you need to make the
file system as robust as possible in the first place, rather than rely on
fsck -y after the event. Doesn't fsck -y rather sweep potential problems
under the carpet?


fsck is not sweeping potential problems under the carpet, as long as nothing 
unexpected goes wrong (software bug, hardware problem).


The reason fsck works to begin with, is that it is designed to fix specific 
inconsistencies in the file system that are expected. The file system 
(takling about UFS here, and other non-journaled file systems that care about 
this stuff) is designed very carefully such that certain correctable 
inconsistencies happen, while preventing those that are not correctable.


That is, under fully expected circumstances, UFS is intended to require fsck 
on reboot. But it is NOT intended that fsck find unexpected inconcistencies 
and ask for operator intervention.


Exactly, which is why I thought that just bypassing all those 
interventions with -y was 'brushing under the carpet'. No?




What happens in the event of write caching + power failure, software bug or 
hardware bugs, is that you end up with semi-random inconsistencies. fsck 
*may* be able to patch the situation enough for the file system to be usable, 
but fundamentally all bets are off.



First step surely is to *disable* write caching if you have drives that
are doing it?


For UFS/reiserfs/xfs/jfs/ext3fs/ext2fs, yes.


Then consider mounting the file system synchronously. Mind you, I don't
know what the scale of the performance loss would be, and whether anyone
does this nowadays!


Synchronous mounting is not required for consistency (except perhaps for 
ext2fs; not sure). It is enough that the system does not break the file 
system's ability to guarantee ordering of certain critical operations, which 
is why write caching causes a problem (the drive re-orders writes for 
performance and you end up with B happening before A, but consistency 
depended on B happening AFTER A).


I realise it would normally be excessively cautious to go for 
synchronous mounting, but what about for environments where power supply 
is such a major problem?


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ReiserFS and /etc/fstab: rw or ro?

2007-12-08 Thread Adam J Richardson

Hi all.

I just installed Ubuntu on a second hard drive. (Got fed up waiting for 
things like VMware Player 2.) I've booted into FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE 
and I'm looking at my /etc/fstab.


Is it safe to specify rw for my ReiserFS partitions, or should I stick 
with ro for now? (I have Googled this, but can't find anything recent 
on FBSD and ReiserFS.)


TiA,
Adam J Richardson
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Re: looking for ideas: triple booting and personal data

2007-12-08 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 12:46:14PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

 I am creating a triple boot machine (FB, Linux, Vista) and want to keep
 all non-system files (i.e. any thing I made vs. was installed by the OS
 [including 3rd party software]) avaible (r/w) by all three OS's.   I
 know I can do this by putting /usr/home on a NTFS partition but am
 worried about the slowness of ntfs-3g/ntfsprogs (90% of the time I am in
 FreeBSD and have several things going that need decent disk performence
 [bit torrents]).  Any ideas? 
 
 BTW an added plus would be some way to automatically have one or all the
 OS's maintain archival copies for backup purposes

Make a FAT32 primary partition if you want FreeBSD to be able to write
as well as read the space.

Remember that only 4 primary partitions / slices can be made and each thing 
will require one of them 
  eg maybe  Slice 1 = MS, 2 = FAT32, Linux = 3, FreeBSD = 4 might work.

I have never done any testing writing/reading FAT32 from FreeBSD.  It seems
not to have any delays.

jerry

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Using wpa_supplicant with ipw on 6.2

2007-12-08 Thread doug
I am using a ThinkPad, T42p which has an Intel PRO/1000 wireless interface built 
in. This does not seem to work with WPA. I was told that this may have been 
fixed in 6.3 but can not find that in the release notes. Can anyone confirm or 
deny this. I am reluctant to upgrade my laptop 3,000 miles from home, especially 
for no benefit.


Thanks for any feedback. I can see this is almost surely fixed in 7.0

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Re: Scanner Compatibility

2007-12-08 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Michaël Grünewald wrote:

Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  

Let me clarify firstly some things.



Thank you very much for this very detailed answer, it's very nice
from you!

  [SNIP]

  

In essence your scanner uses this file to explain the Sane the page
layout and graphics. So it is not a driver!



If I do understand, this seems a close analogue of PPL files in the
printing world, right?

[SNAP]
  



You meant PPD files? (Of course there is subtitle difference between 
CUPS-PPD files and generic PPD files used by LPD).
My hunch is yes but I have not read enough documentation to say yes or 
no. I would really like to hear from some Sane developers or

IT professional who works on scanners who will give us more explanation.
So far my understanding is following. The kernel recognizes your 
scanning device using the  uscanner0 driver and usb daemon as it is 
attached to USB.
Sane-backhands and Sane-fronthands is a collection of drivers that speak 
scanner language. As a mater of fact it used to be that you need one 
driver per application  per scanner (like printing in old times) but I 
think that one of chef achievements of Sane project is to automatize 
writing drivers so that you need to write one driver per application and 
then hack it to work on all supported scanners.  Firmware is dictionary 
which teach sane backhand to speak proprietary language of a particular 
scanner. So it is  something like this
  
scanner--- uscanner0sane-backhands Xsane

 ^
  |
   firmware

  

I see no reason why should sane-backhands work any different on
amd64.



Now you made clear that these binary blobs consist of data (and not
of a cpu program), I do not see either. I will soon be able to tell :)

  
Does the generic kernel on for amd64 contains the same drivers as for 
i386? Also kernel driver like uscanner and  even  usb daemon  might
be on the different level of the development than in i386 as they really 
need to interact to  different amd64 kernel.

A kernel developer could easily clarify this for us.



On another hand if you are using amd64 that tells me that you
are running serious production servers so why would you want to attach
a scanner to  such  machine is not really clear to me.



In fact, I have no serious reason to run amd64 since I use my amd64
computer as a ``user workstation'' and the main benefit from running
amd64 is to manage huge amounts of RAM --- as far as I can tell from
the various docs I have read. My reasons to run amd64 are mainly geeky
or childish :)

  
I hope you do not have 32 Gb of RAM as my neighbor who is a gamer  and 
passionately in love with
Windows Vista:-) On another hand those gamers are the reason that I can 
go to junk yard and get a

PIII with 512 Mb of RAM and 10Gb Hard-drive for $5. I am a happy camper!


As I said before the handbook is excellent but here is my quick and
dirty step by step how to for scanners.



[SNIP]

Thanks a lot for this con tribution,
  
I realized that Handbook article about scanner could be appended but 
there are people on this mailing lists who are qualified to do so

unlike me.

Cheers,
Predrag
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Re: relay host in sendmail?

2007-12-08 Thread Christian Walther
Hi,

On 08/12/2007, jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello:
 I am using Absolute BSD, Second Ed.
 and am looking in the section on Sendmail.
 I cannot find where to specify a relay host.
 I have a hosts that originate mail to remote
 recipients but use a mail hub (Postfix) on
 another machine on local network to
 relay this mail to the outside. It is not spam.
 These messages will be used to verify web
 client supplied e-mail addresses.
 Thank you in advance;
 Jeff K


you can specify a smart host in sendmail.mc (or the mc-file created
for your host). The macro you need is already in there, you just need
to uncomment it. It's something like:

dnl Dialup users should uncomment and define this appropriately
define(`SMART_HOST', `your.relay.host')

where your.relay.host is the hostname of your relay, respectively.

There's an alternative called the nullhost, which just sends mail to
a relay. The host won't be able to receive mails, though:

FEATURE(`nullclient',`your.relay.host')

HTH
Christian

PS: There are some
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SANE Network Daemon question

2007-12-08 Thread Predrag Punosevac
I was just looking at the documentation on SANE web-site about network 
scanning

and I noticed that /etc/services on my i386 does not include line like

sane-port  6566/tcp  # SANE network scanner daemon

which is used by saned (Sane Network Daemon to enable scanning over the 
network).
The /etc/inetd.conf file is also missing line (of course should be 
commented by default)


sane-port  stream  tcp  nowait  saned.saned  /usr/local/sbin/saned saned

The handbook is  also  mute  about  the  scanning over the network.

Is anybody using scanners on the network on FreeBSD? Handbook article 
should also be appended.
I might try to play with it and see how it goes. I could contribute the 
documentation if the community has interest in it.


Best,
Predrag

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copying DVD material :: somewhat OT.

2007-12-08 Thread Gary Kline

Folks,

IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto
on  my bsd virtual site.   Make this domain more useful.
The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things
CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce.

That said,  first,if there is a website for total dweebs, please
post it; or send it privately.  I just bought some Memorex 
DVD+RW ; I want to record a 117 minute commercial DVD.
On the back on the DVDs is says these are only good for 60 minutes
in great qualty; it is good up to 120 minutes, and so on.
Nutshell: how good will k3b and my Pioneer burner do on dubbing
this professioally recorded disc?  Also, Does thw RW mean tthat 
I can re-tape over this with another edu DVD?

gary

PS:  I much prefer analogue cassettes; I've been taping stuff
 since I taped American Bandstand off the TV :-)




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LPRng question and printing in general

2007-12-08 Thread Predrag Punosevac
I would like to ask people who use  LPRng spooling system on FreeBSD to 
clarify something for me.


I have been playing with all available spooling systems on FreeBSD (LPD, 
LPRng,  CUPS , PDQ) as well as HPLIP in order to document

their behavior and write simple howtos for each of the systems.

However I kept getting into the trouble with LPRng. Namely, I could not 
get past the following message


[EMAIL PROTECTED] -cannot open connection - No such file or directory
Make sure the remote host supports the LPD protocol

Is that the famous conflict with the native LPD supporting RFC1179 
printing. How do people resolve this conflict in practice?




I also noticed that PDQ project is completely abandoned by its creator. 
Also LPRng was  abandoned by its creator in 2005 and then picked by
somebody else. I wander what is the state of ifhp filter which is used 
by default by LPRng. As it is a hardware based project and there are so
many printers that were manufactured in the mean time I wander if the 
system is still usable in real life.



Is FreeBSD printing essentially reduced to LPD+apsfilter for small to 
medium print networks and CUPS for  very complex  printing  networks  
or  LPRng  is alive and well.



I tried to get into LPRng mailing lists but they seems are not active 
any more.



Best,
Predrag




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Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT.

2007-12-08 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Gary Kline wrote:

Folks,

IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto
on  my bsd virtual site.   Make this domain more useful.
The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things
CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce.

That said,  first,if there is a website for total dweebs, please
	post it; or send it privately.  I just bought some Memorex 
	DVD+RW ; I want to record a 117 minute commercial DVD.

On the back on the DVDs is says these are only good for 60 minutes
in great qualty; it is good up to 120 minutes, and so on.
Nutshell: how good will k3b and my Pioneer burner do on dubbing
	this professioally recorded disc?  Also, Does thw RW mean tthat 
	I can re-tape over this with another edu DVD?


gary

PS:  I much prefer analogue cassettes; I've been taping stuff
 since I taped American Bandstand off the TV :-)




  
I wrote K3b how to 
http://www.bsd-srbija.org/dokumentacija/doku.php/rezanje_cd_i_dvd_diskova_pomo%C4%87u_k3b

but you will need little bit of Serbian language to read it.

Actually probably you could follow article even if you do not speak 
Serbian as the language is generic and there are only three important 
steps you need to do.


Step 1 Editing your /boot/loader.conf file with

atapicam_load=YES
hw.ata.ata_dma=1
hw.ata.atapi_dma=1

since FreeBSD is using atapicam device to write DVD


Step 2 Edit your /etc/devfs.conf with various permission. Most of those 
are needed for a work station anyway


perm  /dev/acd0   0666
perm  /dev/cd00666

# Commonly used by many ports
  
link  cd0 cdrom

link  cd0  dvd
link  cd0  rdvd

link  acd0 cdrom
link  acd0 dvd
link  acd0 rdvd

# Misc other devices

permcdrom   0666
permdvd 0666
permrdvd0666
permxpt00666
permpass0   0666


Step 3 Edit your /etc/fstab file if you want to use K3b as a normal user 
since the disk has to be mounted on the mount point which belong to you



[pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /etc/fstab
#These are my options
/dev/cd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0   0
/dev/acd0/usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0   0



You do not need HAL for things to work but is not going to heart.


Also read

make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b

Best,
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Re: relay host in sendmail?

2007-12-08 Thread jekillen


On Dec 8, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Christian Walther wrote:


Hi,

On 08/12/2007, jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello:
I am using Absolute BSD, Second Ed.
and am looking in the section on Sendmail.
I cannot find where to specify a relay host.
I have a hosts that originate mail to remote
recipients but use a mail hub (Postfix) on
another machine on local network to
relay this mail to the outside. It is not spam.
These messages will be used to verify web
client supplied e-mail addresses.
Thank you in advance;
Jeff K



you can specify a smart host in sendmail.mc (or the mc-file created
for your host). The macro you need is already in there, you just need
to uncomment it. It's something like:

dnl Dialup users should uncomment and define this appropriately
define(`SMART_HOST', `your.relay.host')

This looks like it is for dial up modem connection to an isp's mail 
servers.
But I do not see why it would not work for a relay host on the local 
network.
I have static ip addresses on DSL service. I will have to refresh my 
memory
on what is a smart host. This relay host would also relay the response 
to an
email verification message back to the originating host. And I am 
guessing
that would be a virtual domain alias in the relay host. I am learning 
as I go

along.
Thank you for your help. Much appreciated
Jeff K

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Re: SANE Network Daemon question

2007-12-08 Thread Pollywog
On Saturday 08 December 2007 20:39:06 Predrag Punosevac wrote:
 I was just looking at the documentation on SANE web-site about network
 scanning
 and I noticed that /etc/services on my i386 does not include line like

 sane-port  6566/tcp  # SANE network scanner daemon

 which is used by saned (Sane Network Daemon to enable scanning over the
 network).
 The /etc/inetd.conf file is also missing line (of course should be
 commented by default)

 sane-port  stream  tcp  nowait  saned.saned  /usr/local/sbin/saned saned

 The handbook is  also  mute  about  the  scanning over the network.

 Is anybody using scanners on the network on FreeBSD? Handbook article
 should also be appended.
 I might try to play with it and see how it goes. I could contribute the
 documentation if the community has interest in it.


I wanted to do this but I could not find a package for it.  In Linux, I use 
sane-utils to do this.
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Re: ReiserFS and /etc/fstab: rw or ro?

2007-12-08 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Adam J Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I just installed Ubuntu on a second hard drive. (Got fed up waiting
 for things like VMware Player 2.) I've booted into FreeBSD
 6.3-PRERELEASE and I'm looking at my /etc/fstab.

 Is it safe to specify rw for my ReiserFS partitions, or should I
 stick with ro for now? (I have Googled this, but can't find anything
 recent on FBSD and ReiserFS.)

Try man mount_reiserfs.  

I'm surprised that didn't come up when you Googled, but you should
have it on your system as well.
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Re: Freebsd filesystem ( hard reboot )

2007-12-08 Thread Peter Schuller
 Exactly, which is why I thought that just bypassing all those
 interventions with -y was 'brushing under the carpet'. No?

Ah I see. Yes. Given that all bets are off, it's hoping for the best ;)

 I realise it would normally be excessively cautious to go for
 synchronous mounting, but what about for environments where power supply
 is such a major problem?

If write caching is disabled (and confirmed to truly be disabled), it should 
not be needed. So as an added step beyond disabling write caching, it doesn't 
feel particularly useful.

If write caching is still enabled, synchronous writes won't help except 
perhaps to lower the statistical probability of running into problems (that's 
just a guess).

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Re: huawei e220 hsdpa on freebsd 6.3-BETA2

2007-12-08 Thread Joao Barros
On Dec 7, 2007 9:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgedv.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 but when loading the ucom/ubsa stuff before umass, the device will
 not be recognised as /dev/cdX and show up as a communication device
 (ucom).

I've had success at getting ucom to pickup the serial by connecting
and disconnecting the modem several times.
Since I don't currently use it in FreeBSD I left it at that.
I know it's not the solution but it can be better than nothing.


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Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT.

2007-12-08 Thread Michel Talon
Gary Kline wrote:

 IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto
 on  my bsd virtual site. 

K3b certainly works to burn CDs and DVDs under FreeBSD. I have used
it many times on several burners. Of course you need to kldload
atapicam for that. What does not work on any of my burners is burncd.
By the way if you want to copy 8 Gigs DVD on 4 Gigs DVD, i can recommend
you k9copy, which is fantastic. Does as well as dvdshrink, and very
fast.

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Re: 7.0BETA4 cannot install. acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (1 retry left)

2007-12-08 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Saturday 08 December 2007 01:11:49 pm Robert Gray wrote:
 I've tried to install both
 7.0-BETA4-i386-bootonly.iso and
 7.0-BETA4-i386-disc1.iso

 on a Dell Optiplex 745, Model# DCTR with

 acd0: CDROM TSSTcorp CD-ROM TS-L162C/DE05 at ata3-master UDMA33

 The booting doesn't get past the acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying
 error.

 6.2 installs fine.

 Any ideas on what to try?

 Thanks
 robert

md5sum matched on the downloaded 7.0 .iso file?
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setxkbmap dosn't work (with KDE)

2007-12-08 Thread Yuri
I am trying to enable some key combination to switch
between keyboard layouts.

Command 'setxkbmap -option grp:alts_toggle' is supposed to
enable layout switching by both alts. But alts don't do
anything after it. Same with 'setxkbmap -option grp:caps_toggle'.

setxkbmap is from setxkbmap-1.0.4.

This must be a bug somewhere.
Anyone also experiences this problem?

Yuri
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Re: help wanted configuring HPLIP

2007-12-08 Thread Robert Huff

Anish Mistry writes:

  So if the PSC attaches as umass, I'm hosed, but if it attaches
   as ugen I win.

  You can probably hack the umass driver to prevent it from
  attaching to the printer.

On attaching, I get:

ugen1: Hewlett-Packard PSC 750xi, class 0/0, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 6 on uhub4

So it looks like I'm good. Now we'll see if HPLIP can do its
job.


Robert Huff
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Re: help wanted configuring HPLIP

2007-12-08 Thread Robert Huff

Robert Huff writes:

   So it looks like I'm good. Now we'll see if HPLIP can do its
  job.

So close, and yet so far.
Ran hp-setup.  Everything worked OK except for:

1) didn't automatically find the correct driver (is it supposed
to?)
2) found the device when I checked discover all, but not when
I checked only scan to PC.

However, the real obstacle is:

Dec  8 19:50:17 jerusalem PSC_750xi?serial=MY22KD1108WB: io/hpmud/musb.c 1003: 
unable to open hp:/usb/PSC_750xi?serial=MY22KD1108WB

I'm assuming this is because I haven't rebooted and the devfs
rules haven't changed.  Is there an approved way to get the
appropriate party to re-read and implement?


Robert Huff
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How to find out when a package is installed?

2007-12-08 Thread Simon Gao
Hi,

Is there a command that can help find out when a package is
installed/compiled? Or what options should I give to pkg_info to find
out installation date?

Simon
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Re: SANE Network Daemon question

2007-12-08 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Pollywog wrote:

On Saturday 08 December 2007 20:39:06 Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  

I was just looking at the documentation on SANE web-site about network
scanning
and I noticed that /etc/services on my i386 does not include line like

sane-port  6566/tcp  # SANE network scanner daemon

which is used by saned (Sane Network Daemon to enable scanning over the
network).
The /etc/inetd.conf file is also missing line (of course should be
commented by default)

sane-port  stream  tcp  nowait  saned.saned  /usr/local/sbin/saned saned

The handbook is  also  mute  about  the  scanning over the network.

Is anybody using scanners on the network on FreeBSD? Handbook article
should also be appended.
I might try to play with it and see how it goes. I could contribute the
documentation if the community has interest in it.




I wanted to do this but I could not find a package for it.  In Linux, I use 
sane-utils to do this.
  


Saned (Sane Daemon)  is included in the standard distribution of 
sane-backhands. I checked sane-utils on the Debian web-site and seems it 
is just idiotic GUI.


I have to go very carefully through sane documentation and all files 
that come with the sane-backhands.
My hunch would be that one needs to do at least following steps  for  
network scanning.



For the purposes of this example I will assume that scanner already 
works properly on a machine which we will refer as server.
Our goal is to make this scanner usable to other machines which we call 
clients on our local network. The following scenario looks likely. We 
have a small computer lab of 10 machines running FreeBSD, 2 printers and 
a scanner. We want people who use these work stations to be able to use 
any of these two printers and the scanner regardless of the fact if the 
printer or a scanner is physically attached to

a particular workstation.


Step 1 Edit /etc/services with (probably both on server and on the 
client machine)


sane-port  6566/tcp  # SANE network scanner daemon

Step 2 Edit /etc/inetd.conf as(on the server and on the client 
machine) 


sane-port  stream  tcp  nowait  saned.saned  /usr/local/sbin/saned saned


Step 3 Edit /etc/rc.conf with (on the server and on the client machine)

inetd_enable=YES
saned_enable=YES 



Step 4 One probably also needs to edit /etc/hosts to add the host server 
to which sane is attached. (this is probably only on the client machine)


Step 5 Edit file /usr/local/etc/sane.d/net.conf which as default looks like

# This is the net config file.  Each line names a host to attach to.
# If you list localhost then your backends can be accessed either
# directly or through the net backend.  Going through the net backend
# may be necessary to access devices that need special privileges.
# localhost

on the client side. Maybe on the server side too.


Step 6 Edit file /usr/local/etc/sane.d/saned.conf which as default looks 
like


#
# saned.conf
#
# The contents of the saned.conf  file  is  a  list  of  host  names,  IP
# addresses or IP subnets (CIDR notation) that are permitted to use local
# SANE devices. IPv6 addresses must be enclosed in brackets,  and  should
# always  be specified in their compressed form.
#
# The hostname matching is not case-sensitive.
#
#scan-client.somedomain.firm
#192.168.0.1
#192.168.0.1/29
#[2001:7a8:185e::42:12]
#[2001:7a8:185e::42:12]/64
#
# NOTE: /etc/inetd.conf (or /etc/xinetd.conf) and
# /etc/services must also be properly configured to start
# the saned daemon as documented in saned(8), services(4)
# and inetd.conf(4) (or xinetd.conf(5)).

probably both on local and server side.

I probably skipped some steps both on the client and on the server side.

Step 7 Reboot server and clients for daemons to start.

I do not know of the web configuration utility to do this like the one 
for Samba (which also uses inetd) and it will probably  make

system administration just less transparent.


I do not fully understand the security implication of the running 
daemon. It looks to me that the daemon is running around as a supper user

and that might be very serious thing.


Probably above should be tried only behind the PF but how to configure 
the PF so that the daemon is invisible to anybody who is outside of our 
local network? I have more questions at this point than the answers and 
I just thought of this for half an hour.
I will play with my local network after the Christmas holidays and 
report on the results.


Cheers,

Predrag





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Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT.

2007-12-08 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Gary Kline wrote:

On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 02:18:25PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  

Gary Kline wrote:


Folks,

IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto
on  my bsd virtual site.   Make this domain more useful.
The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things
CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce.

That said,  first,if there is a website for total dweebs, please
	post it; or send it privately.  I just bought some Memorex 
	DVD+RW ; I want to record a 117 minute commercial DVD.

On the back on the DVDs is says these are only good for 60 minutes
in great qualty; it is good up to 120 minutes, and so on.
Nutshell: how good will k3b and my Pioneer burner do on dubbing
	this professioally recorded disc?  Also, Does thw RW mean tthat 
	I can re-tape over this with another edu DVD?


gary

PS:  I much prefer analogue cassettes; I've been taping stuff
 since I taped American Bandstand off the TV :-)




 
  
I wrote K3b how to 
http://www.bsd-srbija.org/dokumentacija/doku.php/rezanje_cd_i_dvd_diskova_pomo%C4%87u_k3b

but you will need little bit of Serbian language to read it.




Actually, my best friend for  30 years comes from [ what was ]
Yugoslavia; so he could surely help me with the translation.

I think I have the k3b stuff actually workinng.  As of late FFriday
night, k3b ran thru all of its tests.That wasn't my question.
I want to know
	more about what DVD blanks are good,better,best, and whether it is 
	worth wasting a blank DVD in trying to copy a DVD that I borrowed
	from the library.   


I've googled arouund, tryiiing to get some  kind of specs that an
EE can understand ... even if he kknows nothing about figital
	video.   

  
I think that duplicating DVDs works like a charm on FreeBSD but I think 
there is a better software in ports for that of K3b which is
kind a all in one generic GUI application. This is also a useful link   
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html if you are trying to 
understand DVD business.  There are definitely people on this mailing 
list or on OpenBSD mailing list (I do not remember any more as I am on 
both mailing lists) who have fantastic knowledge of DVD writable medias,

proprietary Video Formats and various issues that come with that including
the issues of regional coding and by that I do not mean just USA vs 
Europe or Asia. Even inside of U. S. where I have being g living for the 
past 12 years there are many different regional formats. I am clueless 
about it.


As a mathematician I  am probably much less capable of understanding DVD 
technical issues than you.


To be perfectly  honest  as a professional mathematician I am very 
concern with the status of TeX port and the fact that two years after
teTeX was abolished by TeX community in favor of TeXLive there are no 
even indication that the TeXLive will be ported to FreeBSD. Even in the 
most crude form (4 packages) as it is done in OpenBSD would be better 
than noting. Of course the Debian way (30 or so packages) would be my 
preferable way as TeXLive is developing really rapidly in some areas.  
My knowledge of porting is unfortunately inadequate to be able to help 
with such a major project.



Cheers,
Predrag







thanks for your email; it was one of the postings that helped me
get atapicam stuff *working*

:-)

gary


  
Actually probably you could follow article even if you do not speak 
Serbian as the language is generic and there are only three important 
steps you need to do.


Step 1 Editing your /boot/loader.conf file with

atapicam_load=YES
hw.ata.ata_dma=1
hw.ata.atapi_dma=1

since FreeBSD is using atapicam device to write DVD


Step 2 Edit your /etc/devfs.conf with various permission. Most of those 
are needed for a work station anyway


perm  /dev/acd0   0666
perm  /dev/cd00666

# Commonly used by many ports
  
link  cd0 cdrom

link  cd0  dvd
link  cd0  rdvd

link  acd0 cdrom
link  acd0 dvd
link  acd0 rdvd

# Misc other devices

permcdrom   0666
permdvd 0666
permrdvd0666
permxpt00666
permpass0   0666


Step 3 Edit your /etc/fstab file if you want to use K3b as a normal user 
since the disk has to be mounted on the mount point which belong to you



[pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /etc/fstab
#These are my options
/dev/cd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0   0
/dev/acd0/usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0   0



You do not need HAL for things to work but is not going to heart.


Also read

make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b

Best,
Predrag








  


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Re: SANE Network Daemon question

2007-12-08 Thread Pollywog
On Sunday 09 December 2007 02:17:21 Predrag Punosevac wrote:

 Saned (Sane Daemon)  is included in the standard distribution of
 sane-backhands. I checked sane-utils on the Debian web-site and seems it
 is just idiotic GUI.


I was using Debian and I now use Ubuntu and FreeBSD.  The sane-utils package 
contains files that I edit in order to have the ability to scan from any 
machine on my LAN that runs Linux.  The files are /etc/sane.d/dll.conf and 
also saned.conf and net.conf in the same directory.
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Re: SANE Network Daemon question

2007-12-08 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Pollywog wrote:

On Sunday 09 December 2007 02:17:21 Predrag Punosevac wrote:

  

Saned (Sane Daemon)  is included in the standard distribution of
sane-backhands. I checked sane-utils on the Debian web-site and seems it
is just idiotic GUI.




I was using Debian and I now use Ubuntu and FreeBSD.  The sane-utils package 
contains files that I edit in order to have the ability to scan from any 
machine on my LAN that runs Linux.  The files are /etc/sane.d/dll.conf and 
also saned.conf and net.conf in the same directory.
  
Then look the /usr/local/etc/sane.d You already have all files you need 
to have.



Debian is known for fine grinding of packages so I would not be 
surprised that they divided generic sane-backhand package in several part.
That is a very good practice but unfortunately FreeBSD does not have 
that man power and the user base to do the same.


Would you be so kind than to write how to for network scanning. It would 
be very good if you could append Handbook article about scanning. I have 
no clue whom you should contact with the offer to contribute the article 
for Handbook.


Best,
Predrag



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How do I use my USB microphone and motherboard audio out?

2007-12-08 Thread Rudy



I want to use the audacity port to record sound and play it back.
I don't have a mini-jack microphone, but I have a USB microphone.  The system tries to record from 
the motherboard sound card (which does not have a microphone attached).


If I run this command:
  sysctl hw.snd.default_unit=1
audacity will not start because my dsp1 does not have any out.


here is the output of /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386)
Installed devices:
pcm0: NVidia MCP51 High Definition Audio Controller at memory 0xfe024000 irq 21 kld snd_hda 
[20071129_0050] [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default)

pcm1: USB Audio at ? kld snd_uaudio [GIANT] (0p:0v/1r:1v channels)
mode 1:(input) 1ch, 16/16bit, pcm, 8000,11025,22050,44100,48000Hz



I am using:
 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA4

For other with a similar situation:  this command:
 kldload snd_uaudio
get FreeBSD to recognize your Logitech USB microphone (from the Playstation).

- RUdy
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Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT.

2007-12-08 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 07:33 am, Gary Kline wrote:
 
   Folks,
 
   IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto
   on  my bsd virtual site.   Make this domain more useful.
   The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things
   CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce.
 
I don't use k3b so what capability it has is not known to me.

   That said,  first,if there is a website for total dweebs, please
   post it; or send it privately.  I just bought some Memorex 
   DVD+RW ; I want to record a 117 minute commercial DVD.
   On the back on the DVDs is says these are only good for 60 minutes
   in great qualty; it is good up to 120 minutes, and so on.

The nominal capacity of the single sided DVD is 120 minutes but some 32 
different definitions are recognised including:
EP -- extended play - 360 minutes
LP -- long play - 240 minutes
SP -- standard play - 120 minutes
FINE - 60 minutes
But how are you getting your source? What definition is it in?

   Nutshell: how good will k3b and my Pioneer burner do on dubbing
   this professioally recorded disc?  

As I've already said I know little of k3b but you'll probably need some sort
of authoring/editing software and possibly another package for 
compression/definition 
conversion.

   Also, Does thw RW mean tthat  
   I can re-tape over this with another edu DVD?

Yes, it means that the total disk can be rewritten -- but the ability to
edit without rewriting all can be quite limited. And RW disks can have a 
rather limited rewrite life -- some 10s of times.
 
   gary
 
   PS:  I much prefer analogue cassettes; I've been taping stuff
since I taped American Bandstand off the TV :-)

EP or LP modes with 6 or 4 hour capacity would probably both cater for a 
better quality than your analogue cassettes.

 
 
 
 

Malcolm
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Re: SANE Network Daemon question

2007-12-08 Thread Pollywog
On Sunday 09 December 2007 03:26:19 Predrag Punosevac wrote:


 Then look the /usr/local/etc/sane.d You already have all files you need
 to have.


 Debian is known for fine grinding of packages so I would not be
 surprised that they divided generic sane-backhand package in several part.
 That is a very good practice but unfortunately FreeBSD does not have
 that man power and the user base to do the same.

 Would you be so kind than to write how to for network scanning. It would
 be very good if you could append Handbook article about scanning. I have
 no clue whom you should contact with the offer to contribute the article
 for Handbook.

I have not done this in FreeBSD, only Linux.  I have a printer that requires 
HPOJ, which I don't believe is available for FreeBSD.  My printer is a 
Hewlett-Packard PSC 2110 All-in-one and it is a USB printer.  Someone told 
me that HPLIP is what I should use but I was unable to get it to work with my 
printer.

I believe I used instructions I found at Marcel Gagne's website to get network 
scanning working in Linux.
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Re: How to find out when a package is installed?

2007-12-08 Thread Rudy


I have used this:
 ls -l /var/db/pkg/PORT_NAME/+DESC

replace PORT_NAME with the correct directory name...

RUdy

Simon Gao wrote:

Hi,

Is there a command that can help find out when a package is
installed/compiled? Or what options should I give to pkg_info to find
out installation date?

Simon
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Re: How to find out when a package is installed?

2007-12-08 Thread Daniel Bye
On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 05:44:00PM -0800, Simon Gao wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there a command that can help find out when a package is
 installed/compiled? Or what options should I give to pkg_info to find
 out installation date?

I don't think there is such a command - I've never come across it, in 
any event. However, you might be able to something useful by inspecting
the mtimes of +COMMENTS and +DESC files in /var/db/pkg/*/

Dan

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Re: SANE Network Daemon question

2007-12-08 Thread Pollywog
On Sunday 09 December 2007 03:26:19 Predrag Punosevac wrote:
 Pollywog wrote:
  On Sunday 09 December 2007 02:17:21 Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  Saned (Sane Daemon)  is included in the standard distribution of
  sane-backhands. I checked sane-utils on the Debian web-site and seems it
  is just idiotic GUI.
 
  I was using Debian and I now use Ubuntu and FreeBSD.  The sane-utils
  package contains files that I edit in order to have the ability to scan
  from any machine on my LAN that runs Linux.  The files are
  /etc/sane.d/dll.conf and also saned.conf and net.conf in the same
  directory.

 Then look the /usr/local/etc/sane.d You already have all files you need
 to have.


 Debian is known for fine grinding of packages so I would not be
 surprised that they divided generic sane-backhand package in several part.
 That is a very good practice but unfortunately FreeBSD does not have
 that man power and the user base to do the same.

 Would you be so kind than to write how to for network scanning. It would
 be very good if you could append Handbook article about scanning. I have
 no clue whom you should contact with the offer to contribute the article
 for Handbook.

Since it has been some time since I tried to get HPLIP to work with my 
computer, I am going to attempt it again.  If I am successful, I will post 
something about it.
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Re: SANE Network Daemon question

2007-12-08 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Pollywog wrote:

On Sunday 09 December 2007 03:26:19 Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  

Pollywog wrote:


On Sunday 09 December 2007 02:17:21 Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  

Saned (Sane Daemon)  is included in the standard distribution of
sane-backhands. I checked sane-utils on the Debian web-site and seems it
is just idiotic GUI.


I was using Debian and I now use Ubuntu and FreeBSD.  The sane-utils
package contains files that I edit in order to have the ability to scan
from any machine on my LAN that runs Linux.  The files are
/etc/sane.d/dll.conf and also saned.conf and net.conf in the same
directory.
  

Then look the /usr/local/etc/sane.d You already have all files you need
to have.


Debian is known for fine grinding of packages so I would not be
surprised that they divided generic sane-backhand package in several part.
That is a very good practice but unfortunately FreeBSD does not have
that man power and the user base to do the same.

Would you be so kind than to write how to for network scanning. It would
be very good if you could append Handbook article about scanning. I have
no clue whom you should contact with the offer to contribute the article
for Handbook.



Since it has been some time since I tried to get HPLIP to work with my 
computer, I am going to attempt it again.  If I am successful, I will post 
something about it.
  


HPLIP works like a charm on FreeBSD 
http://dsteinbrook.googlepages.com/hpliponfreebsd


I thought we were discussing sane-backhands and network scanning.
Best,
Predrag

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Re: SANE Network Daemon question

2007-12-08 Thread Pollywog
On Sunday 09 December 2007 04:06:29 Predrag Punosevac wrote:

 I thought we were discussing sane-backhands and network scanning.

Don't I need HPLIP in order to get my printer (scanning) to work?
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Re: SANE Network Daemon question

2007-12-08 Thread Pollywog
On Sunday 09 December 2007 04:06:29 Predrag Punosevac wrote:


 HPLIP works like a charm on FreeBSD
 http://dsteinbrook.googlepages.com/hpliponfreebsd

Thanks for that, unfortunately it indicates that this is going to be more 
difficult for me than I thought, because I will need to recompile my kernel 
and I have not done this in FreeBSD yet.

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2007-12-08 Thread Dan Langille
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Re: How do I use my USB microphone and motherboard audio out?

2007-12-08 Thread Rudy


After reading some more man pages, I am still stumped but can better phrase my 
question:
 how do I set dsp0.0 as the default OUPUT and dsp1.1 as the default INPUT?

Rudy


here is the output of /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386)
Installed devices:
pcm0: NVidia MCP51 High Definition Audio Controller at memory 
0xfe024000 irq 21 kld snd_hda [20071129_0050] [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v 
channels duplex default)

pcm1: USB Audio at ? kld snd_uaudio [GIANT] (0p:0v/1r:1v channels)
mode 1:(input) 1ch, 16/16bit, pcm, 8000,11025,22050,44100,48000Hz


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Re: LPRng question and printing in general

2007-12-08 Thread Garance A Drosehn

At 2:07 PM -0700 12/8/07, Predrag Punosevac wrote:

I would like to ask people who use LPRng spooling system on FreeBSD
to clarify something for me.


I have never used LPRng in production, although I know the guys in
our (RPI) CS department used to use it for their printing world.


I also noticed that PDQ project is completely abandoned by its
creator. Also LPRng was  abandoned by its creator in 2005 and then
picked by somebody else.


Hmm.  I haven't used LPRng in awhile, but I used to pay attention
to the mailing list.  The web site:
   http://www.lprng.com/

seems relevant, and talks about Patrick Powell as the author, and
according to that web page the most recent update is 12 Sep 2007
(for LPRng-3.8.32).  I'm pretty sure that Patrick has always been
the driving force behind LPRng.

Perhaps it is the FreeBSD port for building LPRng which has seen
someone new pick it up?  Patrick wouldn't be responsible for our
OS-specific port.


Is FreeBSD printing essentially reduced to LPD+apsfilter for small
to medium print networks and CUPS for very complex printing networks
or LPRng is alive and well.


Heh.  Well, I run a pretty complicated printing environment here at
RPI, based on FreeBSD's lpr and a bunch of custom changes to CAP.
Works well for us, but it probably wouldn't work well for most people.
Hopefully I'll get back to merging some of RPI changes back into
FreeBSD's lpr.


I tried to get into LPRng mailing lists but they seems are not
active any more.


I'm not sure what happened to those.  I used to be on them, but every
once-in-awhile the mailing list software would complain that our (RPI)
mail hub was rejecting mail, and would drop me from the mailing list.
After the fourth or fifth time this happened, I stopped adding myself
back onto the list.

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Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT.

2007-12-08 Thread Ian Smith
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:18:25 -0700
 Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Gary Kline wrote:
  Folks,
  
  IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto
  on  my bsd virtual site.   Make this domain more useful.
  The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things
  CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce.
 [..]
  I wrote K3b how to 
  http://www.bsd-srbija.org/dokumentacija/doku.php/rezanje_cd_i_dvd_diskova_pomo%C4%87u_k3b
  but you will need little bit of Serbian language to read it.
  
  Actually probably you could follow article even if you do not speak 
  Serbian as the language is generic and there are only three important 
  steps you need to do.
  
  Step 1 Editing your /boot/loader.conf file with
  
  atapicam_load=YES
  hw.ata.ata_dma=1
  hw.ata.atapi_dma=1
  
  since FreeBSD is using atapicam device to write DVD
  
  
  Step 2 Edit your /etc/devfs.conf with various permission. Most of those 
  are needed for a work station anyway
  
  perm  /dev/acd0   0666
  perm  /dev/cd00666

I'm more comfortable with putting users in a group (operator, burner,
whatever) and setting perms to 660 .. but anyway ..

  # Commonly used by many ports
 
  link  cd0 cdrom
  link  cd0  dvd
  link  cd0  rdvd
  
  link  acd0 cdrom
  link  acd0 dvd
  link  acd0 rdvd

All good stuff, but just one point that Roland Smith picked up on in
another incarnation of this topic recently .. 'link' in devfs makes a
symlink in /dev, and you can't make two symlinks with the same name.

On my 5.5-S system I'd long had in devfs.conf:

  linkacd0cdrom
  linkcd0 cdrom

but ls -l /dev/cdrom shows

  lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  4 Nov 28 01:27 /dev/cdrom - acd0

so it seems the first link is made and any subsequent silently ignored
(or at least, I haven't spotted any console messages complaining of it)

  # Misc other devices
  
  permcdrom   0666
  permdvd 0666
  permrdvd0666
  permxpt00666
  permpass0   0666
  
  
  Step 3 Edit your /etc/fstab file if you want to use K3b as a normal user 
  since the disk has to be mounted on the mount point which belong to you
  
  
  [pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /etc/fstab
  #These are my options
  /dev/cd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0   0
  /dev/acd0/usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660   rw, noauto  0   0
  
  
  
  You do not need HAL for things to work but is not going to heart.
  
  
  Also read
  
  make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b

If I ever get a DVD writer and want to try k3b, I'll start here thanks.

Cheers, Ian

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