Re: cp -p
On Thursday 07 February 2008 20:07, Pietro Cerutti wrote: HostServer exports via NFS /www, which belongs to user:www (uid=1001, gid=80). The directory has the segid flag set: drwsr-xr-x 13 user www 512 Feb 7 00:58 www HostClient mounts the exported directory on /share/www. HostClient doesn't know anything about gid 80. Now, on HostClient, user copies aFile to /share/www using the -p flag of cp(1). cp -p aFile /share/www/ ls -l -rw--- 1 user user 2981888 Feb 7 01:09 /www/aFile As shown, the setgid flag of /www hasn't worked. Hang on - you asked cp to preserve the user and group ownership of the file (cp -p). As far as I can see, it's done what you asked it to. I would regard any other result as violating the Principle of Least Astonishment. and on Thursday 07 February 2008 20:48, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Feb 7, 2008, at 10:42 AM, Pietro Cerutti wrote: From HostClient: ls -al /share/ drwxr-sr-x 4 User www 512 Feb 7 19:23 www touch /share/www/foo ls -l /share/www/foo -rw-r- 1 user www 0 Feb 7 19:39 /share/www/foo (group id works) Right, this is the BSD setgid semantics one would expect. Surely the BSD way is always to inherit group ownership from the directory? setgid is only used on SYSV systems to emulate the BSD semantics on a per-directory basis - or have I got this completely wrong? Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cp -p
Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Thursday 07 February 2008 20:07, Pietro Cerutti wrote: HostServer exports via NFS /www, which belongs to user:www (uid=1001, gid=80). The directory has the segid flag set: drwsr-xr-x 13 user www 512 Feb 7 00:58 www HostClient mounts the exported directory on /share/www. HostClient doesn't know anything about gid 80. Now, on HostClient, user copies aFile to /share/www using the -p flag of cp(1). cp -p aFile /share/www/ ls -l -rw--- 1 user user 2981888 Feb 7 01:09 /www/aFile As shown, the setgid flag of /www hasn't worked. Hang on - you asked cp to preserve the user and group ownership of the file (cp -p). As far as I can see, it's done what you asked it to. I would regard any other result as violating the Principle of Least Astonishment. You are right. I thought that the setgid of the destination directory had priority over the -p. If it's not the case, then this means that mv(1) cannot be used across filesystems when one wants to ensure that the setgid of the target directory does what it's supposed to do. From man mv(1): As the rename(2) call does not work across file systems, mv uses cp(1) and rm(1) to accomplish the move. The effect is equivalent to: rm -f destination_path \ cp -pRP source_file destination \ rm -rf source_file Note that mv invokes cp with the -p option. Is there any way to prevent that? Jonathan -- Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
rename and chmod (was: cp -p)
Ok, my view is getting clearer ;-) my problem in understanding the semantics of mv, cp -p and the rename(2) function seems to be related to the terminology used in chmod(1) man page. This is the explanation of setuid (the same holds for setgid): Directories with this bit set will force all files and subdirectories created in them to be owned by the directory owner and not by the uid of the creating process, if the underlying file system supports this feature Now, from a logical point of view, why moving a file into a directory doesn't fall into the created into them case? -- Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout
Rek Jed wrote: I also tried building it like that: # cd /usr/src/sys/boot # make LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES LOADER_NFS_SUPPORT=NO This builds fine. I copied it to my jumpstart server and it booted from tftp after approx 2 min. pause and the NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60. Can anyone tell me whats the difference between -DLOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES and LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES? OK, two things remain: Are you sure that it doesn't correctly fetch the kernel with tftp and then the kernel tries to mount a root device with nfs? If the kernel is compiled with the slightest mention of nfs as root device it will use nfs, no matter that you have specified otherwise in loader.conf. The generic kernel has NFS_ROOT and NFS_CLIENT, since your root device is not NFS then you can leave out both. I recall having problems leaving in NFS_CLIENT although NFS_ROOT was not included. Second, the loader is ignorant of which version of FreeBSD you use, it will just load whichever kernel you throw at it. I have a loader I used for 6.1, http://www.locolomo.org/pub/pxeboot/jumpstart.tgz Hope this helps. If you find any errors or things that have changed since I worked with this, let me know and I will update the howto. Cheers, Erik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: www search engines
address. And I suppose that if you have a dynamic IP address, even the ISP may not know, unless they keep records correlating dhcp leases with MAC addresses or phone lines. I'd be curious to know whether this is done, just for theoretical reasons. Polish telecom holds logs of IP allocation for DSLs and dialins ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rename and chmod (was: cp -p)
Now, from a logical point of view, why moving a file into a directory doesn't fall into the created into them case? Because (if on the same filesystem) you don't create a new file. You just link the file in the destination dir and unlink the file from the source dir. Exactly. But from a /*logical*/ point of view, shouldn't this case be treated /*as if*/ the file was created inside the target directory? No. This has nothing to do with logics but with your premisses, the implementation of mv and standards (IEEE Std 1003.2 (``POSIX.2'')). It just behaves different than you would expect, but that is no logical error. Regards, Wouter -- Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp -- [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] is binnenkort niet meer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is mijn nieuwe email-adres. ] -- [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] is binnenkort niet meer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is mijn nieuwe email-adres. ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rename and chmod (was: cp -p)
Now, from a logical point of view, why moving a file into a directory doesn't fall into the created into them case? Because (if on the same filesystem) you don't create a new file. You just link the file in the destination dir and unlink the file from the source dir. Regards, Wouter 2008/2/8, Pietro Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, my view is getting clearer ;-) my problem in understanding the semantics of mv, cp -p and the rename(2) function seems to be related to the terminology used in chmod(1) man page. This is the explanation of setuid (the same holds for setgid): Directories with this bit set will force all files and subdirectories created in them to be owned by the directory owner and not by the uid of the creating process, if the underlying file system supports this feature Now, from a logical point of view, why moving a file into a directory doesn't fall into the created into them case? -- Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp -- [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] is binnenkort niet meer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is mijn nieuwe email-adres. ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rename and chmod (was: cp -p)
Wouter Oosterveld wrote: Now, from a logical point of view, why moving a file into a directory doesn't fall into the created into them case? Because (if on the same filesystem) you don't create a new file. You just link the file in the destination dir and unlink the file from the source dir. Exactly. But from a /*logical*/ point of view, shouldn't this case be treated /*as if*/ the file was created inside the target directory? Regards, Wouter -- Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout
Erik Norgaard wrote: Second, the loader is ignorant of which version of FreeBSD you use, it will just load whichever kernel you throw at it. I have a loader I used for 6.1, http://www.locolomo.org/pub/pxeboot/jumpstart.tgz Sorry, wrong. This is not a pxeloader. Gosh it's long time since I did this, don't even know where my files are. Erik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug?
How big does the mailman process actually get? top will tell you. Mailman values don't budge. None of the mailman processes go over about 8.5M, which is what they are during idle time. Real puzzler. I'm surprised not to have at least one process growing, though. Maybe it's not using much CPU and you're not spotting it. Try running top, then sorting on size (o size inside top) then try your mailman email again. Make sure the top refresh rate is fast enough. s 1 inside top would do that, or even s 0 if desperate. Following you advice, as far as I can tell, the mailman qrunner process /usr/local/bin/python2.5 /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s is the one that crashes: all other mailman processes are unaffected. I couldn't see it increase much in size (maybe it went from 8.5M to 12.5M), then it just bombed and a new process was spawned (easy to tell by the large increase in PID). Other things to try: Up the stack size ulimit -s 262144 inside the mailman startup. Again, I've had processes in the past which needed this. You'd have to check that from a shell (/bin/sh) and first to see that your system will allow a bigger value. If not, I believe that there is a sysctl to do that these days but don't have a modern enough system to look it up. A search for MAXSSIZ on google or mail archives may turn it up - that's the kernel option but requires a recompile. Ok, I am going to gradually try different limits. It seems as though setting kern.maxssiz=256M and so on in /boot/loader.conf will allow me to increase the limits. Having to reboot is a pain, though. How far can I go? 512M? (Physical memory is 1GB) Of course, limits may not be the issue at all. They are a likely suspect given your error message, but maybe it's worth checking other bits of the mail system. Can you email a file of the size your are trying not through mailman? Maybe your MTA (sendmail/postfix etc) has a limit that somehow causes mailman to get this error. This is definitely not the case. Users can receive (and send) similar sized large attachments individually, so the MTA (sendmail in this case) is not the cause. The final suggestion is to try to trace (ktrace, strace from ports) the process that is dying, but I suspect mailman forks a new process to deal with the email so how you catch it, I don't know. Many demons have a run in foreground without forking option which can be helpful to debugging, but I don't know if anything like that is possible in mailman. If you can figure out what mailman actually runs to process the email, you could ktrace that from the command line. Maybe the mailman mailing list could give you an incantation to try. I'll admit it is my first time to try a ktrace, but after noting which process it was that crashed I could identify the newly spawned PID, and obtained a ktrace.out (binary) and a kdump (called mailman_process_log.txt) when the problems occurs by sending another large mail attachment. I'll leave the files up for a couple of days. (Both files are about 2MB in size) http://lachlan.lkla.org/tmp/mailman_memory_error/ Not that I can properly interpret the results, but it seems the mail file is completely read, but whatever happens next causes the memory error. 52506 python2.5 RET read 354/0x162 52506 python2.5 CALL break(0x8add000) 52506 python2.5 RET break 0 52506 python2.5 CALL break(0x8cc3000) 52506 python2.5 RET break -1 errno 12 Cannot allocate memory Thanks again for your time and suggestions. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug?
Lachlan Michael wrote: Real puzzler. I'm surprised not to have at least one process growing, though. Maybe it's not using much CPU and you're not spotting it. Following you advice, as far as I can tell, the mailman qrunner process /usr/local/bin/python2.5 /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s is the one that crashes: all other mailman processes are unaffected. I couldn't see it increase much in size (maybe it went from 8.5M to 12.5M), then it just bombed and a new process was spawned (easy to tell by the large increase in PID). All I can think us that qrunner asks for such a large amount of memory in one go, that it bombs out without ever growing. That fits with the ktrace output as well. Regretably, I don't think you can tell *how* much memory was asked for. (The normal pattern with out of memory errors is for the process to grow and grown and grow and die; but it's not the only one). Other things to try: Up the stack size ulimit -s 262144 inside the mailman startup. Again, I've had processes in the past which needed this. Ok, I am going to gradually try different limits. It seems as though setting kern.maxssiz=256M and so on in /boot/loader.conf will allow me to increase the limits. Having to reboot is a pain, though. How far can I go? 512M? (Physical memory is 1GB) Certainly not more than physical memory :-) To be honest, if 256M doesn't do it then this probably isn't the problem. I'm not particularly hopeful that this will do it, but in your circumstance I would try it. At the same time, you could also increase the data size (maxdsiz?) to 1Gb (yours looks like 0.5Gb, half your physical memory). My limit settings (also 1Gb) look like: datasize 1048576 kbytes stacksize262144 kbytes which come from trying to set 256Mb and 1024Mb in the kernel config (old FreeBSD - no sysctls). Keep the ulimit -a in the mailman startup script so you can confirm that you really get these numbers. Can you email a file of the size your are trying not through mailman? Maybe your MTA (sendmail/postfix etc) has a limit that somehow causes mailman to get this error. This is definitely not the case. Users can receive (and send) similar sized large attachments individually, so the MTA (sendmail in this case) is not the cause. OK - rule that out. The ktrace showing qrunner failing a break pretty much does that too. The final suggestion is to try to trace (ktrace, strace from ports) the process that is dying, I'll admit it is my first time to try a ktrace, but after noting which process it was that crashed I could identify the newly spawned PID, and obtained a ktrace.out (binary) and a kdump (called mailman_process_log.txt) when the problems occurs by sending another large mail attachment. I'll leave the files up for a couple of days. (Both files are about 2MB in size) http://lachlan.lkla.org/tmp/mailman_memory_error/ Not that I can properly interpret the results, but it seems the mail file is completely read, but whatever happens next causes the memory error. 52506 python2.5 RET read 354/0x162 52506 python2.5 CALL break(0x8add000) 52506 python2.5 RET break 0 52506 python2.5 CALL break(0x8cc3000) 52506 python2.5 RET break -1 errno 12 Cannot allocate memory The kdump output is the only useful bit, really. Your analysis seems correct to me. You are also getting a stack trace from python when it exits with the out of memory error. ktrace is just showing python printing the stuff - it may be that the error also ends up in a log file somewhere - don't know where mailman logs, sorry. From that stack trace it should be possible to figure out which line of the python is actually causing that memory request. My bet is on one of the cPickle lines, but it would be nice to see the stack trace raw so to speak. Maybe that stack trace would help someone on the mailman list suggest something else. Did you already try sending a different kind of attachment that's the same kind of size (a bit bigger would be better). Maybe it's something about the attachment itself that's causing the issue? As a final resort, if none of the above resolves or leads to clues, I would try uninstalling python2.5 and installing python2.4 *just in case*. I'm assuming that you only have python for mailman. (If you have real python users then it's trickier. You can install multiple versions of python but possibly not from ports. But python always compiled cleanly from tarball on FreeBSD for me. I can offer some help with that process if you really need it). I can't help thinking that 500Kb is a very small attachment and I can't really see why it would legitimately cause a request for so much memory that your settings aren't handling it. A quick look at the mailman web site shows that you can run qrunner from the command line - couldn't immediately find the man page though. If you could somehow queue up
Re: How do I get unicode support in python?
Am Freitag, 8. Februar 2008 15:26:48 schrieb Eric Mesa: I'm running a web server with FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE and python 2.4.3. I'm unable to print any characters outside of ascii. I have tried this code on my Linux computer, which has python 2.5.x and it works - so the code is solid. What do I need to do to get python on the web server to have unicode support? Is there a module/package I need to import in the 2.4 series? Or is there some package/port I need to install? Or do I just recompile python with some different flags? (And does that entail any uninstalling first?) For Python to be able to print unicode characters to the console, it must know the encoding of the console. Generally, this entails setting up LC_ALL and LANG and of course your terminal (emulator) appropriately, and testing whether the interpreter sets the correct encoding on startup (which can be found as sys.getdefaultencoding()). When the encoding that the interpreter uses to print _unicode_-strings cannot encode the unicode characters you hand it to the current default encoding, the codec barfs: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ python Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Nov 6 2007, 19:02:51) [GCC 4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD]] on freebsd7 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import sys sys.getdefaultencoding() 'ascii' print u\xfa Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xfa' in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) print u\xfa.encode(latin-1) ú Basically, the easiest resolution is to do the conversion yourself (like I did in the second example). The other possibility is to change the deault encoding to something that matches your default console (probably latin-1), which you can do in /usr/local/lib/python2x/site.py. HTH! -- Heiko Wundram Product Application Development ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
H.323 gatekeeper what endpoints for FreeBSD
Hello, In our company we're using a lot video conferencing over IP, as point-to-point connections (i.e. each VC system has its own IP) and MCU allow 3-4... VC in the same session. So far so good. Some days ago I was asked to make ready our VC to connect to some University network using a H.323 gatekeeper which will allow multiple partners in the session, while I'm just calling up the IP of this H.323 gatekeeper. This was pretty new to me that my VC allows even this and I was thinking in what to do with that 'new' feature. This brought me to the idea to install on some FreeBSD host in our company VPN just the gatekeeper (from the ports), let all other VC just call-in to that central gatekeeper *and* allow even laptops with a H.323 endpoint software join the session over H.323. Does someone has worked with such H.323 endpoints on FreeBSD, for example with 'cphone' from the ports? What kind of cam could I make use of? See also: http://www.gnugk.org/h323-endpoint.html Thanks in advance for any hint matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rename and chmod (was: cp -p)
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 12:30:57PM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote: Wouter Oosterveld wrote: Now, from a logical point of view, why moving a file into a directory doesn't fall into the created into them case? Because (if on the same filesystem) you don't create a new file. You just link the file in the destination dir and unlink the file from the source dir. Exactly. But from a /*logical*/ point of view, shouldn't this case be treated /*as if*/ the file was created inside the target directory? Not if you use mv. If you use cp, then it could. By definition, mv only moves the pointer/link or whatever it is called and doesn't change anything else. jerry Regards, Wouter -- Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A non FreeBSD question.
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 08:59:22AM +0530, Anuj Singh wrote: Hi, It may start flame, Next lines may seem funny but I want to see what people think say, sorry i am posting here, just to get an idea. Cause i am also one of the open source user/lover and my most of the time goes with computers over freebsd/linux. If someone is away from his cell for around an hour, thus not picking the phone, and his colleagues does not knows where is he as he has not to give reporting to anyone, it means what's he doing? 1.From a normal persons point of view. 2.From the point of view of spouse. The person is busy somewhere or has the phone turned off. I don't know any spouses who check every hour -- at least any spouses in a good marriage relationship. jerry Thanks. :-) Anuj ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A non FreeBSD question.
On Feb 7, 2008 10:29 PM, अनुज Anuj Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, irrelevant drivel snipped... This is completely off-topic. Either post something on-topic, or do not post at all. SC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?
Minor but tiresome: no option to use a non-proportional font to view your messages. Apparently, an extension called Better Gmail allowed this at one point but not now. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
two links
Good morning, I need active two links of internet, but i don´t know do this. I have 3 interfaces internet 1 adsl gateway = 172.168.0.254 - ip interface = 172.168.0.253 internet 2 adsl gateway = 192.168.1.254 - ip interface = 192.168.1.253 interface to lan internal = 10.0.0.254 My default gateway is 172.168.0.254. I need active the second link (192.168.1.254) only access port 22, just port 22. Freebsd 6.3 + ipfw Sorry my english. Thanks for all. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces
On 2008-Feb-08, at 8:38 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
I'm setting up PF on a FreeBSD laptop that sometimes uses the wireless
device (iwi0) as its external interface, and sometimes uses the RJ-45
ethernet device (bge0) as its external interface. Unfortunately, I
haven't figured out yet how to make that happen.
I'd like to be able to have the $ext_if value change depending on
which
interface is active and being used to connect to the outside world.
Do I
just need to create two full sets of rules in my pf.conf (or use a
script
to rewrite that file from scratch each time), even though I'll be
using
exactly the same rules for PF regardless of which interface I'm
using, or
is there some simple way to avoid that sort of redundancy? What am I
overlooking?
You can add a macro that will apply rules to both interfaces
simultaneously. i.e.
lan_if = bge0
wi_if = iwi0
ext_if = { lan_if wi_if }
block in on $ext_if all
I know it's not dynamically updating but should suffice.
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Re: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?)
Steve Franks wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7]$ sudo make install clean === linux_base-f7-7 compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7. ??? Theres work in progress to update the binary compatibility. http://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-kernel I would imagine the linux_base-f7 is useful for testing. Vince Thanks, Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?)
On Friday 08 February 2008, Steve Franks wrote: But there are sites (such as this one: http://www.linux.com/feature/53055) that talk about actually using linux_base-fc8 (which I can't even find on 7.0rc1). How is that possible if the kernel is too old for it? You can upgrade the kernel by setting compat.linux.osrelease to 2.6.16. Note that there are still some issues with that version. Look here http://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-kernel for more information. Steve -- Pieter de Goeje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
Am Freitag, 8. Februar 2008 17:54:03 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, actually, these are file backed swap devices. You can do both file and memory backed devices. this allows you to have a swap file on the hard disk and mount it. As I already wrote in another part of this thread: please explain to me why it should be faster to have a file backed md set up as swap than a dedicated swap partition (because there's at least two more levels of indirection involved). I can clearly see the need for file backed swap in special cases (for example, where you need RAM desperately, for example for a compile, but cannot add another partition to a system), but no matter what, it will never be faster than a swap partition. And that was what the original poster of this sub-thread suggested (and as such, I took it that he was referring to memory-backed mds, because file-backed mds are never faster than raw access to a hard-disk). So, I still stand by my first assessment: the idea to use an md as swap is stupid, at least from a performance standpoint. -- Heiko Wundram Product Application Development ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?)
Steve Franks wrote: But there are sites (such as this one: http://www.linux.com/feature/53055) that talk about actually using linux_base-fc8 (which I can't even find on 7.0rc1). How is that possible if the kernel is too old for it? no idea about /usr/port/emulators/linux_base-8 which that article talks about, its not in my ports tree. but you can use linux_base-f7 if you set compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 however its still a work in progress and wont always work as intended, for example it works fine on my laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Ix linux_base linux_base-f7-7 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) [EMAIL PROTECTED] compat.linux.osrelease compat.linux.osrelease: 2.6.16 and I can use acrobat and other linux binaries, however my desktop at home would not start acrobat reader using compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 and linux_base-f7-7, and I had to go back to linux_base-fc-4_10 and compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2. Vince Steve On Feb 8, 2008 9:42 AM, Vince Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Franks wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7]$ sudo make install clean === linux_base-f7-7 compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7. ??? Theres work in progress to update the binary compatibility. http://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-kernel I would imagine the linux_base-f7 is useful for testing. Vince Thanks, Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
--- Jason C. Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb Jason C. Wells: Norberto Meijome wrote: But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files? One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the performance would be way better than disc. Ahem, sorry, that's just plain stupid. Either the md system is backed up by RAM (in which case you don't need the swap anyway; why'd you want to access RAM by putting it in a swap on an md in RAM?), or it's backed up by swap, in which case you have a chicken and egg problem. Mmm, yes. That is quite a pickle. But a chicken or an egg would still be inferior to an md backed swap. :) Regards, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, you can have file backed swap files. I have done it. However, with more than one swap file, or a swap file and a swap partition on the same disk, there ends up being quite a bit of thrashing. This is due apparently to some interaction between having two swaps on the same disk but that is jut a guess, i dont know what the cause is. The idea behind having swap files is that swap space can more easily be expanded and added on the fly. If your initial swap partition was not big enough it is more easy to more swap in another file. As well, a swap file that can grow and shrink, also would allow you to avoid having a lot of disk space consumed by unused swap, so he disk space is allocated when needed, or allow more space to easily be added if you find out you do not have enough. With applications crashing because of swap partition running out, this would be an important feature, since more swap space can be allocated in a file which is easier to do than a partition. Swap is still important on systems with small amounts of RAM, FreeBSD should be able to run on some older hardware too and should not be like Windows where you have to have 2 GHZ 2 GB of ram to run it. dynamic swap space makes it more versatile which is a good thing Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?)
But there are sites (such as this one: http://www.linux.com/feature/53055) that talk about actually using linux_base-fc8 (which I can't even find on 7.0rc1). How is that possible if the kernel is too old for it? Steve On Feb 8, 2008 9:42 AM, Vince Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Franks wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7]$ sudo make install clean === linux_base-f7-7 compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7. ??? Theres work in progress to update the binary compatibility. http://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-kernel I would imagine the linux_base-f7 is useful for testing. Vince Thanks, Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions
How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. === Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. = Contents: I:Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction === This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the questions (the hackers). Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions == When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (obviously, substitute your mail address for [EMAIL PROTECTED]). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send how to questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since then, I have changed it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I were to try to remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:09:13PM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote: Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb Jason C. Wells: Norberto Meijome wrote: But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files? One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the performance would be way better than disc. Ahem, sorry, that's just plain stupid. Either the md system is backed up by RAM (in which case you don't need the swap anyway; why'd you want to access RAM by putting it in a swap on an md in RAM?), or it's backed up by swap, in which case you have a chicken and egg problem. Mmm, yes. That is quite a pickle. But a chicken or an egg would still be inferior to an md backed swap. :) Huh? md backed swap is just using memory which, if you hadn't wasted it by making it md, it might obviate the need for swap at all - anyway it would not be a faster system if the md had to be swapped out. It just adds another layer of interferrence. jerry Regards, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
inetd + few ip
how can I specify few ip-addresses inetd listen on? not all. or all except few? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do I get unicode support in python?
I'm running a web server with FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE and python 2.4.3. I'm unable to print any characters outside of ascii. I have tried this code on my Linux computer, which has python 2.5.x and it works - so the code is solid. What do I need to do to get python on the web server to have unicode support? Is there a module/package I need to import in the 2.4 series? Or is there some package/port I need to install? Or do I just recompile python with some different flags? (And does that entail any uninstalling first?) Thanks, -- Eric Mesa http://www.ericsbinaryworld.com http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ports makefile stuff (bsd.lib.mk)
Objects are put in OBJDIR. If you have not set MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX in the
environment, this will default to ${.CURDIR} and give you a warning.
I tried setting MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX as shown in the makefile copy below,
but the libraries are still appearing in the source directory
(src/backends/core) and not in the directory I want them to output to
(src/objs). I tried using OBJDIR instead, but without any success.
I tried all four of these lines, only the last removed the warning,
but it still had the objects built to the source directory.
MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=$(OBJPATH)
OBJDIRPREFIX=$(OBJPATH)
OBJDIR=$(OBJPATH)
.OBJDIR=$(OBJPATH)
Any suggestions on what I am doing wrong?
Thank you,
-Jim Stapleton
#directories/requirements
#In order of most likely to least likely to change
#what we are building
OBJNAME=vp_backend_core
VERSION=1.0
SRCS=back_end_core.c
HDRS= ../../include/virtual_ports_backend.h
REQLIB=
OBJPATH=../../objs
INCLUDE_PATHS=-I../../include -I/usr/local/include
LIB_PATHS=-L/usr/local/lib -L$(OBJPATH)
#beyond this point *shouldn't* need change between files
CFLAGS+= $(INCLUDE_PATHS)
CXXFLAGS+= $(INCLUDE_PATHS)
LDADD=$(LIB_PATHS) $(REQLIB)
.if defined(DEBUG)
CFLAGS+=-g -D DEBUG
CXXFLAGS+=-g -D DEBUG
.endif
#for bsd.lib.mk
LIB=$(OBJNAME)-$(VERSION)
SHLIB_NAME=$(OBJNAME)-$(VERSION)
INSTALL_PIC_ARCHIVE=1
OTHER=Makefile
MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=$(OBJPATH)
.include bsd.lib.mk
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Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug?
Alex Zbyslaw wrote: You are also getting a stack trace from python when it exits with the out of memory error. ktrace is just showing python printing the stuff - it may be that the error also ends up in a log file somewhere - don't know where mailman logs, sorry. From that stack trace it should be possible to figure out which line of the python is actually causing that memory request. My bet is on one of the cPickle lines, but it would be nice to see the stack trace raw so to speak. Maybe that stack trace would help someone on the mailman list suggest something else. Hi, I'm the Mailman guy on this thread. From the errors that were reported on [EMAIL PROTECTED], there are two different manifestations that we've seen, resulting in different tracebacks (logged in Mailman's 'error' log). Here's the flow. With a message of 1.5 to 2 MB in size, the message is piped from the MTA to Mailman's 'post' script which creates a queue entry which is a file containing two python pickles. The first just contains the raw message text and the second is a small bit of metadata about the message/entry. This process which is a pipe spawned by the MTA works. Next, Mailman's IncomingRunner picks up the queue entry and hits the MemoryError exception in the call to cPickle to read the file and unpickle the raw message. This is before it has done any processing of the message, so the MemoryError is only related to unpickling the raw text if the text is large enough. With a message of 300 to 500 KB, the process is the same, but the unpickling of the queuue entry into message text and metadata succeeds. The MemoryError occurs in this case in the Python email library as it is parsing the message text into an email message object. This process is known to be a memory hog in that at some point the entire raw message text and the full message object (which is at least as big as the message text) will be resident at the same time. I.e., it takes more than twice as much memory to parse a message as to store it. Note that these messages are not really large. Most Mailman installations can handle much larger messages without problem. Did you already try sending a different kind of attachment that's the same kind of size (a bit bigger would be better). Maybe it's something about the attachment itself that's causing the issue? In the first case above, it is almost certainly just the size of the message text. I'm certain the same thing would occur with a simple text/plain message if it had a 1.5MB body. As a final resort, if none of the above resolves or leads to clues, I would try uninstalling python2.5 and installing python2.4 *just in case*. I'm assuming that you only have python for mailman. (If you have real python users then it's trickier. You can install multiple versions of python but possibly not from ports. But python always compiled cleanly from tarball on FreeBSD for me. I can offer some help with that process if you really need it). That would be worth a try. There could be a problem in the underlying Python. I don't know how FreeBSD packages Mailman, but the source distribution installs a pythonlib directory in Mailman's tree with its own Python email library which is compatible with Python back to 2.1, so if this is the case with FreeBSD, downgrading Python wouldn't change the email packege, but it still might help. I can't help thinking that 500Kb is a very small attachment and I can't really see why it would legitimately cause a request for so much memory that your settings aren't handling it. Agreed. A quick look at the mailman web site shows that you can run qrunner from the command line - couldn't immediately find the man page though. bin/qrunner --help If you could somehow queue up the email with Mailman switched off, you could run qrunner by hand and then you'd definitely get the python backtrace. Maybe the mailman list, or a mailman admin here, can help with that, if you need it. We see the Python traceback, so we don't need to do that. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?)
Vince Hoffman wrote: Steve Franks wrote: But there are sites (such as this one: http://www.linux.com/feature/53055) that talk about actually using linux_base-fc8 (which I can't even find on 7.0rc1). How is that possible if the kernel is too old for it? no idea about /usr/port/emulators/linux_base-8 which that article talks about, its not in my ports tree. but you can use linux_base-f7 if you set compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 Sorry to answer myself here, but Just looked and it seems /usr/port/emulators/linux_base-8 was the redhat 8 port (ie ancient) and has been removed.(http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/emulators/linux_base-8/Attic/Makefile) however its still a work in progress and wont always work as intended, for example it works fine on my laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Ix linux_base linux_base-f7-7 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) [EMAIL PROTECTED] compat.linux.osrelease compat.linux.osrelease: 2.6.16 and I can use acrobat and other linux binaries, however my desktop at home would not start acrobat reader using compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 and linux_base-f7-7, and I had to go back to linux_base-fc-4_10 and compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2. Vince Steve On Feb 8, 2008 9:42 AM, Vince Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Franks wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7]$ sudo make install clean === linux_base-f7-7 compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7. ??? Theres work in progress to update the binary compatibility. http://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-kernel I would imagine the linux_base-f7 is useful for testing. Vince Thanks, Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The disk memory size restrictions
Hello: RAM disk to root file system. I would like to use in embedded FreeBSD, and the creation of a 64 MB memory disk, and all normal, but 128 MB RAM disk at the time of always automatically restart. Loader in the configuration file, use or use md_image mfs_root? How to resolve this problem, thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
--- Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:09:13PM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote: Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb Jason C. Wells: Norberto Meijome wrote: But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files? One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the performance would be way better than disc. Ahem, sorry, that's just plain stupid. Either the md system is backed up by RAM (in which case you don't need the swap anyway; why'd you want to access RAM by putting it in a swap on an md in RAM?), or it's backed up by swap, in which case you have a chicken and egg problem. Mmm, yes. That is quite a pickle. But a chicken or an egg would still be inferior to an md backed swap. :) Huh? md backed swap is just using memory which, if you hadn't wasted it by making it md, it might obviate the need for swap at all - anyway it would not be a faster system if the md had to be swapped out. It just adds another layer of interferrence. jerry Regards, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, actually, these are file backed swap devices. You can do both file and memory backed devices. this allows you to have a swap file on the hard disk and mount it. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to find CPU IDLE Percentage on SMP (Dual processor Host)
Hi Everyone, I am using a FreeBSD version 4.11 for running my BIND. I am in a need of setting up an audit for the CPU Utilization on my resolvers and have a query about finding the CPU IDLE percentage on a DUAL processor hosts. As the BIND binary uses only the first processor, the second CPU most of the time not used by BIND. So in this case the in built system utilities like top or sar does average the CPU IDLE percentage by adding up the First CPU's IDLE % + Second CPU's IDLE % /2. This in turn will give me a wrong result. So can someone suggest me on how I can get the right CPU IDLE %? Thanks. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A non FreeBSD question.
In response to Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 08:59:22AM +0530, Anuj Singh wrote: Hi, It may start flame, Next lines may seem funny but I want to see what people think say, sorry i am posting here, just to get an idea. Cause i am also one of the open source user/lover and my most of the time goes with computers over freebsd/linux. If someone is away from his cell for around an hour, thus not picking the phone, and his colleagues does not knows where is he as he has not to give reporting to anyone, it means what's he doing? 1.From a normal persons point of view. 2.From the point of view of spouse. The person is busy somewhere or has the phone turned off. I don't know any spouses who check every hour -- at least any spouses in a good marriage relationship. Bah. It means he's kayaking: http://www.potentialtech.com/Cucumber/ I mean, it's kinda tough to answer the phone under those circumstances ... -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD. That's fine. It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only code in a library or some such just because Linux does the same brain-dead stuff and the Linux maintainers are too stubborn or stupid to fix Linux. don't forget that linux changed from being good unix OS to be windows competitor. and it's competing well. I am only responding to two narrow points so I am only responding to the list. I apologize in advance if this is a protocol error. Linux got (and gets?) a boost from law suit over the name unix that was in progress around the advent of the BSDs. Linux seems to, at least initially, done a better job of being easier to install. Perhaps in the past even we FreeBSD-ers were willing to cede the desktop to other O/S-s. As a result Linux is probably more competitive with Windows than FreeBSD is as a desktop. I think that has nothing to do with the technical merits of this (or any) discussion. The other point is when FreeBSD starts swapping to any degree, thrashing is not far behind. There is no cure for not having enough memory. Email is not generally an interactive endeavor and can probably tolerate much swapping than running KDE. Actually running KDE on a 128MB system I know this for a absolute fact :) Swapping systems may have performed better when thrashing started because they had lots of controls to say who (or what type of workload) got screwed when memory was scarce. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PHP - mbstring question
Hi Darry, cd /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions make config Ensure that you select MBSTRING from the list. Best Regards, Kieran Well, I screwed up when I installed php4-extensions as I missed selecting MBSTRING. So extensions are built and installed. To fix this, do I have do un-install extensions and then rebuild/ install them again ? thanks, Darryl Greetings, I installed php4 and php4_extensions on my 6.3-release box. Tried installing SugarCRM (downloaded from their site as the freebsd port is broken). When installing it generates an error: Functions associated with Multi-byte strings PHP extensions (mbstring) are needed by application. How do I add that ? Any help greatly appreciated. -Darryl PHP version 4.4.7 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1266 - Release Date: 2/8/2008 10:06 AM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is libfontconfig.so part of linux-xorg-libs?
I have the latest linux-xorg-libs installed, but I get the following from a script kicked off from /compat/linux/bin/sh: libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: ELF file OS ABI invalid So, am I just missing that .so, or am I running the linux program incorrectly or have I misconfigured. I thought fontconfig was pretty basic, so I am assuming I have it an am missing something else. I've just set up linux compat and already got the kernel module loaded and linprocfs (which was causing another error by it's absence) all working, so I feel I must be getting close! Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PHP - mbstring question
Hi Darry, cd /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions make config Ensure that you select MBSTRING from the list. Best Regards, Kieran - Original Message - From: Darryl Hoar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: PHP - mbstring question Greetings, I installed php4 and php4_extensions on my 6.3-release box. Tried installing SugarCRM (downloaded from their site as the freebsd port is broken). When installing it generates an error: Functions associated with Multi-byte strings PHP extensions (mbstring) are needed by application. How do I add that ? Any help greatly appreciated. -Darryl PHP version 4.4.7 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug?
On Friday 08 February 2008 13:41:44 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Lachlan Michael wrote: Real puzzler. I'm surprised not to have at least one process growing, though. Maybe it's not using much CPU and you're not spotting it. Following you advice, as far as I can tell, the mailman qrunner process /usr/local/bin/python2.5 /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s is the one that crashes: all other mailman processes are unaffected. I couldn't see it increase much in size (maybe it went from 8.5M to 12.5M), then it just bombed and a new process was spawned (easy to tell by the large increase in PID). All I can think us that qrunner asks for such a large amount of memory in one go, that it bombs out without ever growing. That fits with the ktrace output as well. Regretably, I don't think you can tell *how* much memory was asked for. (The normal pattern with out of memory errors is for the process to grow and grown and grow and die; but it's not the only one). Other things to try: Up the stack size ulimit -s 262144 inside the mailman startup. Again, I've had processes in the past which needed this. Ok, I am going to gradually try different limits. It seems as though setting kern.maxssiz=256M and so on in /boot/loader.conf will allow me to increase the limits. Having to reboot is a pain, though. How far can I go? 512M? (Physical memory is 1GB) Certainly not more than physical memory :-) To be honest, if 256M doesn't do it then this probably isn't the problem. I'm not particularly hopeful that this will do it, but in your circumstance I would try it. At the same time, you could also increase the data size (maxdsiz?) to 1Gb (yours looks like 0.5Gb, half your physical memory). My limit settings (also 1Gb) look like: datasize 1048576 kbytes stacksize262144 kbytes which come from trying to set 256Mb and 1024Mb in the kernel config (old FreeBSD - no sysctls). Keep the ulimit -a in the mailman startup script so you can confirm that you really get these numbers. Can you email a file of the size your are trying not through mailman? Maybe your MTA (sendmail/postfix etc) has a limit that somehow causes mailman to get this error. This is definitely not the case. Users can receive (and send) similar sized large attachments individually, so the MTA (sendmail in this case) is not the cause. OK - rule that out. The ktrace showing qrunner failing a break pretty much does that too. The final suggestion is to try to trace (ktrace, strace from ports) the process that is dying, I'll admit it is my first time to try a ktrace, but after noting which process it was that crashed I could identify the newly spawned PID, and obtained a ktrace.out (binary) and a kdump (called mailman_process_log.txt) when the problems occurs by sending another large mail attachment. I'll leave the files up for a couple of days. (Both files are about 2MB in size) http://lachlan.lkla.org/tmp/mailman_memory_error/ Not that I can properly interpret the results, but it seems the mail file is completely read, but whatever happens next causes the memory error. 52506 python2.5 RET read 354/0x162 52506 python2.5 CALL break(0x8add000) 52506 python2.5 RET break 0 52506 python2.5 CALL break(0x8cc3000) 52506 python2.5 RET break -1 errno 12 Cannot allocate memory The kdump output is the only useful bit, really. Your analysis seems correct to me. This looks like classic uninitialized variable to me, as in asking for 5397590320 memory, cause msgSize was unset. I'd attach gdb with -p flag and check how much memory it's asking for. If that doesn't work for you, maybe you can find out in the python source where it is asking for this memory and instead of saying Cannot allocate make it say Cannot allocate this many bytes. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout
Rek Jed [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been building FreeBSD jumpstart infrastructure and it mostly works. I'm using tftp to boot off the network in to scripted sysinstall. I compiled the boot loader with tftp support but every time I boot it will first try nfs, then timeout after around two minutes (it cannot find nfs) and finally boot from tftp. Is there any way that I can make it boot from tftp straight away rather than wait for nfs to timeout? Try unsetting boot.nfsroot.server and boot.nfsroot.path although I'm not sure that it will avoid the timeout in newer FreeBSD releases. -- Christian Laursen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is libfontconfig.so part of linux-xorg-libs?
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:59:24 -0700 Steve Franks wrote: I have the latest linux-xorg-libs installed, but I get the following from a script kicked off from /compat/linux/bin/sh: libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: ELF file OS ABI invalid Uh, sorry, I just noticed subject, here is an answer: - % pkg_info -W /compat/linux/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 /compat/linux/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 was installed by package linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_7 - WBR -- bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PHP - mbstring question
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 02:06:45PM -0600, Darryl Hoar wrote: Greetings, I installed php4 and php4_extensions on my 6.3-release box. Tried installing SugarCRM (downloaded from their site as the freebsd port is broken). When installing it generates an error: Functions associated with Multi-byte strings PHP extensions (mbstring) are needed by application. How do I add that ? Any help greatly appreciated. # cd /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions # make install Add mutlibyte (MBSTRING) support in the config dialog, and let the install continue. Dan -- Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ pgpAcWNoU3Rmx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: is libfontconfig.so part of linux-xorg-libs?
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:59:24 -0700 Steve Franks wrote: I have the latest linux-xorg-libs installed, but I get the following from a script kicked off from /compat/linux/bin/sh: libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: ELF file OS ABI invalid This is really a FreeBSD library. The linux one should be at /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 and thus may be displayed as /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1. So, am I just missing that .so, or am I running the linux program This may help to find out if you have the needed file: - % ls -l /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so* - If you have this file than there is two possibilities: . either your app needs a new libfontconfig (with new API, 2.6 kernel) then you may try to use linux_base-f7 (has some known issues for now); . or you may have some non-default environment (see /usr/ports/UPDATING for more info on this) which prevents from finding this library before a FreeBSD one -- try to remove non-default environment. incorrectly or have I misconfigured. I thought fontconfig was pretty basic, so I am assuming I have it an am missing something else. I've just set up linux compat and already got the kernel module loaded and linprocfs (which was causing another error by it's absence) all working, so I feel I must be getting close! Is this linux application from ports collection? WBR -- bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD. Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PHP - mbstring question
Greetings, I installed php4 and php4_extensions on my 6.3-release box. Tried installing SugarCRM (downloaded from their site as the freebsd port is broken). When installing it generates an error: Functions associated with Multi-byte strings PHP extensions (mbstring) are needed by application. How do I add that ? Any help greatly appreciated. -Darryl PHP version 4.4.7 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces
Erik Norgaard wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
I'm setting up PF on a FreeBSD laptop that sometimes uses the wireless
device (iwi0) as its external interface, and sometimes uses the RJ-45
ethernet device (bge0) as its external interface. Unfortunately, I
haven't figured out yet how to make that happen.
How about this:
ext_ifs = { iwi0 bge0 }
block in quick on ext_ifs all
pass out quick on ext_ifs all keep state
...
This is nice, but any ideas how to do this if the wireless interface
is only present some of the time, ie its a pcmcia card?
JimBow
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Re: How to find CPU IDLE Percentage on SMP (Dual processor Host)
Devanand SP wrote: Hi Everyone, I am using a FreeBSD version 4.11 for running my BIND. I am in a need of setting up an audit for the CPU Utilization on my resolvers and have a query about finding the CPU IDLE percentage on a DUAL processor hosts. As the BIND binary uses only the first processor, the second CPU most of the time not used by BIND. So in this case the in built system utilities like top or sar does average the CPU IDLE percentage by adding up the First CPU's IDLE % + Second CPU's IDLE % /2. This in turn will give me a wrong result. So can someone suggest me on how I can get the right CPU IDLE %? Thanks. top -S will list the idle processes for each CPU separately. I hope this is a valid statement for 4.x. I am not certain. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unable to mount partition with ntfs-3g
I would love to be able to mount my NTFS partition R/W, but the FreeBSD NTFS support is read-only (or almost read-only), so I installed fusefs-ntfs which I thought would allow this. After installation (which also pulled in fusefs-kmod, fusefs-libs, and libublio), I added fusefs_enable=yes to my rc.conf. Then, after starting fusefs (which means loading the fuse kernel module), I tried: # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /C mount: /dev/ad0 : Operation not supported by device I got the same message for a USB drive on /dev/da0. Documentation on ntfs-3g is pretty limited. Did I miss something? I really rather not convert my new USB disk to FAT32 if I don't have to. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 pgpGnERq4hbHJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PHP - mbstring question
Hi Darryl, You do not need to uninstall the extensions, simply ensure the directory is clean (make clean) do a make config and select the correct options. You should then do a make install clean. This will allow the installer to not take as long rebuilding extensions which are already installed. **sudo is not needed but is a good practise** $ cd /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions sudo make clean sudo make config Now install the newly configured php4 extensions. $ sudo make install clean Best Regards, Kieran - Original Message - From: Darryl Hoar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Kieran' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:50 PM Subject: RE: PHP - mbstring question Hi Darry, cd /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions make config Ensure that you select MBSTRING from the list. Best Regards, Kieran Well, I screwed up when I installed php4-extensions as I missed selecting MBSTRING. So extensions are built and installed. To fix this, do I have do un-install extensions and then rebuild/ install them again ? thanks, Darryl Greetings, I installed php4 and php4_extensions on my 6.3-release box. Tried installing SugarCRM (downloaded from their site as the freebsd port is broken). When installing it generates an error: Functions associated with Multi-byte strings PHP extensions (mbstring) are needed by application. How do I add that ? Any help greatly appreciated. -Darryl PHP version 4.4.7 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1266 - Release Date: 2/8/2008 10:06 AM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange apache logs
Below is output of ps aux. Regarding apache configuration, nothing is changed there, just installed as-is from ports, only included one httpd-vhosts file with number of VirtualHost directives. $ ps -aux USERPID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 11 92.0 0.0 0 8 ?? RL Sat05PM 6598:00.73 [idle: cpu0] root 10 89.0 0.0 0 8 ?? RL Sat05PM 6498:48.95 [idle: cpu1] www 92653 0.2 0.6 21960 12280 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.22 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92636 0.2 0.6 21976 12304 ?? S 4:46PM 0:00.08 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92652 0.1 0.6 21932 12264 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.14 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92634 0.1 0.6 21948 12272 ?? S 4:46PM 0:00.09 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start root 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? WLs Sat05PM 0:00.00 [swapper] root 1 0.0 0.0 772 260 ?? ILs Sat05PM 0:01.31 /sbin/init -s root 2 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:13.33 [g_event] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 6:21.41 [g_up] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 5:49.45 [g_down] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [thread taskq] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [kqueue taskq] root 7 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [acpi_task_0] root 8 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [acpi_task_1] root 9 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [acpi_task_2] root 12 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 5:30.04 [swi4: clock sio] root 13 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [swi3: vm] root 14 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 6:53.81 [swi1: net] root 15 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 1:20.99 [yarrow] root 16 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [swi6: Giant taskq] root 17 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [swi5: +] root 18 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [swi2: cambio] root 19 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.44 [swi6: task queue] root 20 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [irq9: acpi0] root 21 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 14:30.38 [irq19: ohci0 ohci*] root 22 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.02 [usb0] root 23 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [usbtask] root 24 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.02 [usb1] root 25 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 11:40.54 [irq18: em0 uhci1] root 26 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [irq17: fwohci0+] root 27 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.02 [usb2] root 28 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.02 [usb3] root 29 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.02 [usb4] root 30 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [irq14: ata0] root 31 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [irq15: ata1] root 32 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.02 [irq1: atkbd0] root 33 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [swi0: sio] root 34 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:01.33 [fdc0] root 35 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [irq7: ppc0] root 36 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:06.14 [pagedaemon] root 37 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [vmdaemon] root 38 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 8:44.87 [pagezero] root 39 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:24.66 [bufdaemon] root 40 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 8:40.45 [syncer] root 41 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:33.43 [vnlru] root 42 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:08.23 [softdepflush] root 43 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:21.53 [schedcpu] root168 0.0 0.0 1252 620 ?? Is Sat05PM 0:00.00 adjkerntz -i root567 0.0 0.0 528 284 ?? Is Sat05PM 0:00.00 /sbin/devd root611 0.0 0.0 1376 832 ?? Is Sat05PM 0:01.24 /usr/sbin/syslogd -s root740 0.0 0.1 3524 1796 ?? Is Sat05PM 0:02.76 /usr/sbin/sshd root746 0.0 0.1 3484 2180 ?? Ss Sat05PM 0:06.31 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail) smmsp 750 0.0 0.1 3384 1924 ?? Is Sat05PM 0:00.12 sendmail: Queue [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmqueue (s root756 0.0 0.0 1388 836 ?? Is Sat05PM 0:00.84 /usr/sbin/cron -s root 25914 0.0 0.6 21452 11520 ?? Ss Sun06PM 3:43.98 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start root 89210 0.0 0.1 6276 2576 ?? Is3:03PM 0:00.03 sshd: editor [priv] (sshd) editor 89213 0.0 0.1 6252 2596 ?? I 3:04PM 0:00.22 sshd: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sshd) root 91833 0.0 0.1 6276 2588 ?? Is4:21PM 0:00.03 sshd: editor [priv] (sshd) editor 91836 0.0 0.1 6252 2604 ?? S 4:21PM
Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces
Jim Bow wrote:
Erik Norgaard wrote:
How about this:
ext_ifs = { iwi0 bge0 }
block in quick on ext_ifs all
pass out quick on ext_ifs all keep state
...
This is nice, but any ideas how to do this if the wireless interface
is only present some of the time, ie its a pcmcia card?
If the above trick doesn't work, then I don't think there is an easy
solution, pf fails loading rulesets when an error is encountered, which
AFAIK would happen if an interface is not present.
An option could be to load rule sets as part of the interface setup.
That means messing with the scripts in /etc/rc.d.
If you look in netif, then there is as part of the start() routine, a
part that resyncs ipfilter. You can probably copy/paste this to do the
same if pf is enabled and add a similar resync command to the pf script.
Just some ideas.
Cheers, Erik
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Re: Unable to mount partition with ntfs-3g
Kevin Oberman wrote: I would love to be able to mount my NTFS partition R/W, but the FreeBSD NTFS support is read-only (or almost read-only), so I installed fusefs-ntfs which I thought would allow this. After installation (which also pulled in fusefs-kmod, fusefs-libs, and libublio), I added fusefs_enable=yes to my rc.conf. Then, after starting fusefs (which means loading the fuse kernel module), I tried: # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /C mount: /dev/ad0 : Operation not supported by device I got the same message for a USB drive on /dev/da0. Documentation on ntfs-3g is pretty limited. Did I miss something? I really rather not convert my new USB disk to FAT32 if I don't have to. mount only calls a couple of file systems in the old fashioned way. One of them is ntfs. What I did to be able to mount NTFS systems with mount -t (obligatory if you want to use fstab to mount), I did the following: # mv /sbin/mount_ntfs /sbin/mount_ntfs.bak # ln -s /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g /sbin/mount_ntfs This is one of my /etc/fstab entries /dev/ntfs/2vault /mnt/vault ntfs rw,late,gid=5,umask=113,dmask=002 0 0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?)
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:25:26 -0700 Steve Franks wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7]$ sudo make install clean === linux_base-f7-7 compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7. ??? Besides all other suggestions I'd like to add that /usr/ports/UPDATING has some additional info. WBR -- bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: buildworld releng7 exterme performance loss
Frank Staals wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: message snipped As suggested I turned on all.log and also captured the output from vmstat -i and top -S as 2 others suggested. From the all.log output I don't seem to see anything out of the ordinary if I compare it to a snapshot of all.log on my working environment but maybe I am looking for the wrong thing ? The same applies for the output of top -S. vmstat's output may be more interesting though. In both cases I the information was taken just after boot with a login on tty0 and 1 remote session. vmstat shows the amount of interrupts for my network interfaces are a lot higher with todays build compared to my working env from 3 weeks ago. There is one difference though: I did a rm -rf /usr/obj/* through ssh on the todays build. Could that be the reason for the difference or did I find the source of the problem ? info : all.log todays build : http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/all.log.2008.07.02.1140 working env: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/all.log.stable top -S output (links so the output is still properly formatted ) todays build: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/top working env: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/top_stable vmstat -i on todays build: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /root/vmstat interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 610 2 irq9: acpi0 1 0 irq12: psm0 6 0 irq14: ata0 58 0 irq17: wpi0 bge0+ 151862 706 irq19: cbb0+ 2 0 irq20: uhci0 uhci+ 1 0 irq21: pcm0 uhci1+ 8 0 irq22: ehci0 uhci4 5 0 cpu0: timer 179565 835 cpu1: timer 169770 789 Total 501888 2334 [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /root/vmstat_stable interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 130 1 irq9: acpi0 1 0 irq14: ata0 58 0 irq17: wpi0 bge0+ 3544 44 irq19: cbb0+ 2 0 irq20: uhci0 uhci+ 1 0 irq21: pcm0 uhci1+ 7 0 irq22: ehci0 uhci4 5 0 cpu0: timer 155701 1946 cpu1: timer 145928 1824 Total 305377 3817 to see if the values from vmstat were normal I tried a couple things again. I once more recompiled the latest sources and disabled my wpi wlan interface (since if the vmstat value was incorrect the most obvious reason would have been something with wpi I thought. ). Unfortunately that didn't help much. Second I again cleared /usr/obj/ through an ssh session. The vmstat value for bge0 (my LAN interface) was 160 000. Lastly I recompiled my normal sources again and removed /usr/obj/* again through ssh. Allthough the number of interrupts is still quite big it is only half of the amount it shows with todays sources. So now I am once again lost on what to do to determine the cause of my problem: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 1898 2 irq9: acpi0 1 0 irq12: psm0 84 0 irq14: ata0 58 0 irq17: wpi0 bge0+ 83570 110 irq19: cbb0+ 2 0 irq20: uhci0 uhci+ 3 0 irq21: pcm0 uhci1+ 2217 2 irq22: ehci0 uhci4 5 0 cpu0: timer 1484618 1956 cpu1: timer 1474830 1943 Total 3047286 4014 Anyone ideas ? -- -Frank Staals ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to mount partition with ntfs-3g
Kevin Oberman wrote: I would love to be able to mount my NTFS partition R/W, but the FreeBSD NTFS support is read-only (or almost read-only), so I installed fusefs-ntfs which I thought would allow this. After installation (which also pulled in fusefs-kmod, fusefs-libs, and libublio), I added fusefs_enable=yes to my rc.conf. Then, after starting fusefs (which means loading the fuse kernel module), I tried: # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /C mount: /dev/ad0 : Operation not supported by device I got the same message for a USB drive on /dev/da0. Documentation on ntfs-3g is pretty limited. Did I miss something? I really rather not convert my new USB disk to FAT32 if I don't have to. try using the ntfs-3g command directly: ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1/C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 02:53:39PM +0100, Erik Norgaard wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
I'm setting up PF on a FreeBSD laptop that sometimes uses the wireless
device (iwi0) as its external interface, and sometimes uses the RJ-45
ethernet device (bge0) as its external interface. Unfortunately, I
haven't figured out yet how to make that happen.
How about this:
ext_ifs = { iwi0 bge0 }
block in quick on ext_ifs all
pass out quick on ext_ifs all keep state
...
As long as you don't need statements like iwi0:network which you
shouldn't on an endpoint, then I guess this will work.
Thanks. That looks like the answer I wanted. I don't know why I can't
find any documentation that offers an example of this. Maybe I'm losing
my Google mojo.
--
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Baltasar Gracian: A wise man gets more from his enemies than a fool from
his friends.
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Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout
Erik Norgaard wrote: OK, two things remain: Are you sure that it doesn't correctly fetch the kernel with tftp and then the kernel tries to mount a root device with nfs? When I build the pxeloader with LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES it will fetch the kernel from tftp just fine, but after the NFS gracefully times out. It will also fetch mount the root device from tftp ok. It's just a bit annoying that I have to wait 2 extra minutes every time I need to install a box (I do this quite often), and look for workarounds for something that should just work. But then, I'm a sysadmin not a developer so it might be easy for me to say. I cannot actually fix it myself. If the kernel is compiled with the slightest mention of nfs as root device it will use nfs, no matter that you have specified otherwise in loader.conf. The generic kernel has NFS_ROOT and NFS_CLIENT, since your root device is not NFS then you can leave out both. I recall having problems leaving in NFS_CLIENT although NFS_ROOT was not included. I don't bother compiling a kernel for this at the moment. I just copied the contents of /boot from a FreeBSD CD to the root of my tftp server. Then I copied the custom build loader files so that I can boot from tftp instead of nfs: boot0 boot1 boot2 loader.conf loader.rc mbr pxeboot Then I mount the stock mfsroot and copy my install.cfg over to script sysinstall. I've actually got a script that I can use to easily update install.cfg when needed. The idea behind all this is to keep it as simple to setup as possible so that me and my fellow network engineers at work can use this on their laptops without spending too much time on setting it up. This way if we need to install/re-install a box on a clients site we just rock up, run a few commands or a script to set the laptop in jumpstart mode (once the main thing has been setup it's just a matter of reconfiguring an interface and starting a few services), plug it in to the box, netboot and while the box is reinstalling we can have a chat with the client, see how things are going, look good and provide a better service. This also means that we always start with a machine that is in a know state. It's something that is almost impossible to achieve when installing by hand as everyone seems to do it differently. I'm happy to share my docs once I've ironed it all out and tested properly. Cheers, Jedrek ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?)
Steve Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But there are sites (such as this one: http://www.linux.com/feature/53055) that talk about actually using linux_base-fc8 (which I can't even find on 7.0rc1). How is that possible if the kernel is too old for it? That was linux_base-8, not linux_base-fc8. Very different thing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pf.conf for variable interfaces
I'm setting up PF on a FreeBSD laptop that sometimes uses the wireless device (iwi0) as its external interface, and sometimes uses the RJ-45 ethernet device (bge0) as its external interface. Unfortunately, I haven't figured out yet how to make that happen. I'd like to be able to have the $ext_if value change depending on which interface is active and being used to connect to the outside world. Do I just need to create two full sets of rules in my pf.conf (or use a script to rewrite that file from scratch each time), even though I'll be using exactly the same rules for PF regardless of which interface I'm using, or is there some simple way to avoid that sort of redundancy? What am I overlooking? -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Baltasar Gracian: A wise man gets more from his enemies than a fool from his friends. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ports makefile stuff (bsd.lib.mk)
first of all, /usr/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk is part of the FreeBSD system make
files, not just the ports. So if you change something there, you will almost
certainly break your buildworld and buildkernel.
Depends on what you add, but for the most part, yes, I agree that is likely.
On Wednesday 06 February 2008 16:49:46 Jim Stapleton wrote:
1) Initially, this library will actually build several sublibraries.
To keep my code neat, each library has it's own source directory.
So you set SUBDIR.
That was background not a question. I managed that part. (I think it
was from the zipped make tutoral suggested by the man page or ports).
[...]
Objects are put in OBJDIR. If you have not set MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX in the
environment, this will default to ${.CURDIR} and give you a warning.
That is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
Roughly speaking, under src/, I had backends/[SHLIB_NAME]/,
frontends/[BIN_NAME], objs/, and include/. I wanted to build
everything into objs/, that way I only needs the ldflags to have
-L../../objs, rather than -L../foo -L../bar, where foo and bar
vary from app to app.
Thanks,
-Jim Stapleton
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Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces
Chad Perrin wrote:
I'm setting up PF on a FreeBSD laptop that sometimes uses the wireless
device (iwi0) as its external interface, and sometimes uses the RJ-45
ethernet device (bge0) as its external interface. Unfortunately, I
haven't figured out yet how to make that happen.
How about this:
ext_ifs = { iwi0 bge0 }
block in quick on ext_ifs all
pass out quick on ext_ifs all keep state
...
As long as you don't need statements like iwi0:network which you
shouldn't on an endpoint, then I guess this will work.
Erik
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Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Chad Perrin wrote: I'm setting up PF on a FreeBSD laptop that sometimes uses the wireless device (iwi0) as its external interface, and sometimes uses the RJ-45 ethernet device (bge0) as its external interface. Unfortunately, I haven't figured out yet how to make that happen. I'd like to be able to have the $ext_if value change depending on which interface is active and being used to connect to the outside world. Do I just need to create two full sets of rules in my pf.conf (or use a script to rewrite that file from scratch each time), even though I'll be using exactly the same rules for PF regardless of which interface I'm using, or is there some simple way to avoid that sort of redundancy? What am I overlooking? You might be able to use link aggregation to make this work. See lagg(4) - -- there's an example in there of automatic fail-over between a wireless and a wired interface. Assuming that your wireless and wired interfaces would all sit on the same network and you can move the IP from one to the other, it should work. In pf.conf you'ld need to set: ext_if=(lagg0)' (The brackets are important if the IP is dynamically assigned and could change) Completely untried, but I think this should work. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHrGBn3jDkPpsZ+VYRA3UDAKCVRiDc08UWXwe10W0UYpg01hchgACfdFeh XyqzAidCAgAut5tOtgryUi8= =FDYK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 09:16:52AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jason C. Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb Jason C. Wells: Norberto Meijome wrote: But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files? One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the performance would be way better than disc. Ahem, sorry, that's just plain stupid. Either the md system is backed up by RAM (in which case you don't need the swap anyway; why'd you want to access RAM by putting it in a swap on an md in RAM?), or it's backed up by swap, in which case you have a chicken and egg problem. Mmm, yes. That is quite a pickle. But a chicken or an egg would still be inferior to an md backed swap. :) Regards, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, you can have file backed swap files. I have done it. However, with more than one swap file, or a swap file and a swap partition on the same disk, there ends up being quite a bit of thrashing. This is due apparently to some interaction between having two swaps on the same disk but that is jut a guess, i dont know what the cause is. The idea behind having swap files is that swap space can more easily be expanded and added on the fly. If your initial swap partition was not big enough it is more easy to more swap in another file. As well, a swap file that can grow and shrink, also would allow you to avoid having a lot of disk space consumed by unused swap, so he disk space is allocated when needed, or allow more space to easily be added if you find out you do not have enough. With applications crashing because of swap partition running out, this would be an important feature, since more swap space can be allocated in a file which is easier to do than a partition. Swap is still important on systems with small amounts of RAM, FreeBSD should be able to run on some older hardware too and should not be like Windows where you have to have 2 GHZ 2 GB of ram to run it. dynamic swap space makes it more versatile which is a good thing The question here is not whether to have swap, but to have md as swap. It seems like that would cause more problems with speed and probably thrashing that just plain swap partitions on disk. Now, the abiliity to use a file as additional swap can be important because it will allow you to add some swap in a pinch without reconfiguring your disk or adding disk - which a larger or additional swap partition would require. But, a swap file is not something you want to run with as a matter of course. You want a swap partition. Writing and reading a swap partition is optimized for that in a way that writing to a file system cannot easily be optimized. At least that's what my mom told me. jerry Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
portupgrade xorg-server fails
Hello, I'm trying to portupgrade xorg-server but it crashes. Running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, and xorg-server-1.4_3,1 Initially I ran portupgrade -R xorg-server, it crashed, then I tried as explained in UPDATING 20070519 During the upgrade, I get the following error. xvmc.c: In function `ProcXvMCGetDRInfo': xvmc.c:574: error: syntax error before rep xvmc.c:583: error: syntax error before '*' token xvmc.c:584: error: `xvmcGetDRInfoReq' undeclared (first use in this function) xvmc.c:584: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once xvmc.c:584: error: for each function it appears in.) xvmc.c:587: error: `stuff' undeclared (first use in this function) xvmc.c:595: error: `rep' undeclared (first use in this function) xvmc.c:634: error: `xvmcGetDRInfoReply' undeclared (first use in this function) xvmc.c: At top level: xvmc.c:657: warning: excess elements in array initializer xvmc.c:657: warning: (near initialization for `ProcXvMCVector') *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server/work/xorg-server-1.4/Xext. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server/work/xorg-server-1.4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.16695.13 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=xorg-server-1.4_3,1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.4_3,1 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! x11-servers/xorg-server (xorg-server-1.4_3,1) (compiler error) --- Packages processed: 1 done, 13 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed What do I need to do to upgrade xorg-server? Thanks, Alain ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to mount partition with ntfs-3g
Kevin Oberman wrote: Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:11:37 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Oberman wrote: I would love to be able to mount my NTFS partition R/W, but the FreeBSD NTFS support is read-only (or almost read-only), so I installed fusefs-ntfs which I thought would allow this. After installation (which also pulled in fusefs-kmod, fusefs-libs, and libublio), I added fusefs_enable=yes to my rc.conf. Then, after starting fusefs (which means loading the fuse kernel module), I tried: # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /C mount: /dev/ad0 : Operation not supported by device I got the same message for a USB drive on /dev/da0. Documentation on ntfs-3g is pretty limited. Did I miss something? I really rather not convert my new USB disk to FAT32 if I don't have to. mount only calls a couple of file systems in the old fashioned way. One of them is ntfs. What I did to be able to mount NTFS systems with mount -t (obligatory if you want to use fstab to mount), I did the following: # mv /sbin/mount_ntfs /sbin/mount_ntfs.bak # ln -s /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g /sbin/mount_ntfs This is one of my /etc/fstab entries /dev/ntfs/2vault /mnt/vault ntfs rw,late,gid=5,umask=113,dmask=002 0 0 Cool! This is exactly what I was looking for. Since mount_ntfs-3g was installed, I assumed that it would work with nmount, but I guess not. Thanks very much! I think that this will solve all of my ntfs issues for a while. Just remember that you have to recreate the link after you do an installworld. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to mount partition with ntfs-3g
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:11:37 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Oberman wrote: I would love to be able to mount my NTFS partition R/W, but the FreeBSD NTFS support is read-only (or almost read-only), so I installed fusefs-ntfs which I thought would allow this. After installation (which also pulled in fusefs-kmod, fusefs-libs, and libublio), I added fusefs_enable=yes to my rc.conf. Then, after starting fusefs (which means loading the fuse kernel module), I tried: # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /C mount: /dev/ad0 : Operation not supported by device I got the same message for a USB drive on /dev/da0. Documentation on ntfs-3g is pretty limited. Did I miss something? I really rather not convert my new USB disk to FAT32 if I don't have to. mount only calls a couple of file systems in the old fashioned way. One of them is ntfs. What I did to be able to mount NTFS systems with mount -t (obligatory if you want to use fstab to mount), I did the following: # mv /sbin/mount_ntfs /sbin/mount_ntfs.bak # ln -s /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g /sbin/mount_ntfs This is one of my /etc/fstab entries /dev/ntfs/2vault /mnt/vault ntfs rw,late,gid=5,umask=113,dmask=002 0 0 Cool! This is exactly what I was looking for. Since mount_ntfs-3g was installed, I assumed that it would work with nmount, but I guess not. Thanks very much! I think that this will solve all of my ntfs issues for a while. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 pgpb229eSxRHL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Desktop Performance Tuning?
Dominic Fandrey wrote: Bruce Cran wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: disabling SMP, but it didn't help. There have been threads on the stable list about jerky mouse performance, which may be part of this, but I have really followed it closely. I'm also wondering whether this might be due to some xorg or other port change from late 2007 that I only noticed when I started doing a lot of rebuilding under 7-stable. does it lag when doing disk I/O or just any case? I think it's disk I/O: even doing a cvsup makes the desktop start lagging on my Athlon XP UP system. Does setting debug.vfscache=0 make any difference? Setting debug.vfscache=0 doesn't seem to help. The issue only seems to occur when I'm running the buildworld within a terminal in Xorg. I think it may be a contention issue with the 'nvidia' driver since during certain phases of the buildworld I often see top saying something's waiting on a lock - and I've spotted nvidia0 waiting on Giant a few times. I'll test using the nv driver instead and see if the problem still occurs. -- Bruce -- Bruce ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7]$ sudo make install clean === linux_base-f7-7 compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7. ??? Thanks, Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to mount partition with ntfs-3g
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:19:26 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Oberman wrote: Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:11:37 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Oberman wrote: I would love to be able to mount my NTFS partition R/W, but the FreeBSD NTFS support is read-only (or almost read-only), so I installed fusefs-ntfs which I thought would allow this. After installation (which also pulled in fusefs-kmod, fusefs-libs, and libublio), I added fusefs_enable=yes to my rc.conf. Then, after starting fusefs (which means loading the fuse kernel module), I tried: # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /C mount: /dev/ad0 : Operation not supported by device I got the same message for a USB drive on /dev/da0. Documentation on ntfs-3g is pretty limited. Did I miss something? I really rather not convert my new USB disk to FAT32 if I don't have to. mount only calls a couple of file systems in the old fashioned way. One of them is ntfs. What I did to be able to mount NTFS systems with mount -t (obligatory if you want to use fstab to mount), I did the following: # mv /sbin/mount_ntfs /sbin/mount_ntfs.bak # ln -s /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g /sbin/mount_ntfs This is one of my /etc/fstab entries /dev/ntfs/2vault /mnt/vault ntfs rw,late,gid=5,umask=113,dmask=002 0 0 Cool! This is exactly what I was looking for. Since mount_ntfs-3g was installed, I assumed that it would work with nmount, but I guess not. Thanks very much! I think that this will solve all of my ntfs issues for a while. Just remember that you have to recreate the link after you do an installworld. Yes. I already have to do this for other modified stuff. (I install a new world about every other week.) Thanks again, -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 pgpZhKwDi2uYg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?
what is wrong with gmail? A few interface annoyances, but perhaps nothing. It depends on what you plan on doing with it. For me it's convenient. It's one less thing I have to worry about. I just cannot bring myself to trust anyone else for email. Running your own server on BSD or Linux is so bloody easy, if you're paranoid about email for archival, privacy, or other reasons, just run your own server. You have already instilled trust in countless thousands. Is it a problem? Maybe. It depends on how important one feels the confidentiality of the information is. For Top Secret classified documents, I would not use plain text gmail or any other plain-text service. For online shopping accounts and participating in mailing lists, I do. If one really wants to get paranoid, they had best throw in the towel and crawl under a rock now. Do not use commercial operating systems, they spy on you. Probably. Is open-source software any different? Maybe, maybe not. There is no reason why it should be trusted any more than its closed-source counterpart. We can audit the source code. Not really. Most people would be incapable of this feat, for even the simplest of programs. Even for those who possess the technical prowess to accomplish such a feat, do they really have the funding, manpower and time to audit every piece of code they come in contact with? Obviously not, for if they did, programs would not have bugs. Even if one could audit every program they use, what about the libraries on which those programs depend? How about the system calls? What about the compiler? If it has been tainted it would be quite difficult to detect. What about the assemblers? How about the low-level firmware? Once you get all of those bits audited, over the course of the remainder of your natural born lifespan, you'll be faced with the feat of trying to examining the hardware on which the code runs. After all, if the hardware cannot be trusted, all the rest is moot. Security is a very serious business that should not be ignored, but too many people get too concerned over all the wrong aspects and miss the big picture. Trust is relative and required, despite your tools of choice. Even using Linux or BSD, you instill significant trust in a great many people, most of whom you do not even know. What's wrong with gmail? It depends on who you ask. -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
Oh good heavens. How do you spell joke in geekish? I spell it md backed swap. Regards, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mel Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:29 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Andrew Falanga Subject: Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages Since it's a church disk, you might have better luck with your prayers then most people. I'd pray the disk is still in warranty!! ;-) Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: brand-new DVD drives less reliable than crappy old player - fix?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Franks Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:55 AM To: User Questions Subject: brand-new DVD drives less reliable than crappy old player - fix? I have a bunch of disks that will play fine in my laptop and TV, but not in my freebsd system with a new-ish NEC drive. Figured it was the drive, so I got a new pioneer, same issue - scratch somewhere that causes no hiccup on other players makes it tank. I can't even cp or rsync data off them, and these are only minor scratches. Is there anything tunable, or ways to keep rsync or cp going after an error? I get 100MB of the last GB file. Most annoying. I know you usually want cp to fail if there's read errors, but this is one instance where you'd like it to skip and keep going - I assume that's what my dvd player does. These are not commercial disks, so I can't just go out and buy a new one, and I was too stupid to make backups, so I have a vested interest in a workaround. The newer drives turn the disk faster, so of course there is less time the laser light is shining on the spot where the data is, and if a scratch has damaged that spot then optically the bit is not fully 1 way or fully the other, so the voltage out from the laser's eye is going to be closer to the undefined range. What is coming out of the laser's eye is effectively a dirty square wave. I think the developers of the faster drives decided to reduce the sampling window that they look for a logic high or a logic low, so they can sample the bit closer to the center of the high or low, and also since the sample time is lower, they make the circuit less tolerant of bits that are a little less high or a little less low coming out of the laser's eye. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD
-Original Message- From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:32 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD. That's fine. It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only code in a library or some such just because Linux does the same brain-dead stuff and the Linux maintainers are too stubborn or stupid to fix Linux. don't forget that linux changed from being good unix OS to be windows competitor. and it's competing well. Ah, something to strive for! :-) Reason # 1 to be happy with Linux: It attracts all the morons who would otherwise fuck up FreeBSD? Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:32 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD. That's fine. It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only code in a library or some such just because Linux does the same brain-dead stuff and the Linux maintainers are too stubborn or stupid to fix Linux. don't forget that linux changed from being good unix OS to be windows competitor. and it's competing well. Ah, something to strive for! :-) Reason # 1 to be happy with Linux: It attracts all the morons who would otherwise fuck up FreeBSD? Ted __ And I pray to stay that way ;-) . Cheers, Predrag I do not know if it is because of the writers strike in Hollywood or because of the couple recent posts by Ted but I have more laugh reading [EMAIL PROTECTED] than watching the Jay Leno show. _ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:32 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD. That's fine. It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only code in a library or some such just because Linux does the same brain-dead stuff and the Linux maintainers are too stubborn or stupid to fix Linux. don't forget that linux changed from being good unix OS to be windows competitor. and it's competing well. Ah, something to strive for! :-) Reason # 1 to be happy with Linux: It attracts all the morons who would otherwise fuck up FreeBSD? Ted And I will pray to stay that way ;-) Predrag P. S. I do not know if it because of the writers strike in Hollywood or because of the last couple posts sent by Ted but I definitely have more laugh reading massages at freebsd.org than watching the Jay Leno show. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with WMP54G Wireless Adapter
Even though I am relatively new to FreeBSD I have been able to configure most everything flawlessly. There is only one problem that has needed fixing and that is with my wireless adapter from Linksys that use the ral(4) driver. I have tried using ifconfig, yet I get a response saying that ral doesn't exist even though in my kernel I have the appropriate driver. Also when I try dmesg | grep ral0 nothing comes up. After all of this I loaded the driver into my kernel using ndisgen(8) and I got a response saying that there was a binary error. When I do pciconf -lv i get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:2:0: class=0x028000 card=0x00551737 chip=0x03011814 rev= 0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ralink Technology, Corp' class= network I have searched through various forums and even other mail threads but I have found nothing of value. If more information is needed let me know. Daniel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RAM disk size limit
Hello: RAM disk to root file system. I would like to use in embedded FreeBSD, and the creation of a 64 MB memory disk, and all normal, but 128 MB RAM disk at the time of always automatically restart. Loader in the configuration file, use or use md_image mfs_root? How to resolve this problem, thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
