relay through gmail

2008-02-28 Thread cuongvt

I have 1 dynamic IP address at dyndns.com (xxx.dyndns.com)
and 1 gmail account ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
And I successfully setup my postfix so that when
I send mail to outside, my postfix will relay through [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When recipients received my mails and open them, the mail address
in from of theses mails is [EMAIL PROTECTED], not
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

So I want to change so that when recipients received my mails and
open them, the mail address in from of theses mails is
[EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there a way to do that?
Regard,
--
Below is my config related to above content:
relayhost = smtp.gmail.com
smtp_use_tls = yes
smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtp_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/ThawtePremiumServerCA.pem 
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relay through gmail

2008-02-28 Thread vuthecuong
I have 1 dynamic IP address at dyndns.com (xxx.dyndns.com)
and 1 gmail account (us...
http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bb475e48f8724b3f_done=/group/list.postfix.users/browse_thread/thread/4c122b90b1e5b59a@gmail.com)

And I successfully setup my postfix so that when
I send mail to outside, my postfix will relay through us...
http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bb475e48f8724b3f_done=/group/list.postfix.users/browse_thread/thread/4c122b90b1e5b59a@gmail.com.

When recipients received my mails and open them, the mail address
in from of theses mails is us...
http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bb475e48f8724b3f_done=/group/list.postfix.users/browse_thread/thread/4c122b90b1e5b59a@gmail.com,
not
us...
http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bb475e48f8724b3f_done=/group/list.postfix.users/browse_thread/thread/4c122b90b1e5b59a@xxx.dyndns.com.

So I want to change so that when recipients received my mails and
open them, the mail address in from of theses mails is
us...
http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bb475e48f8724b3f_done=/group/list.postfix.users/browse_thread/thread/4c122b90b1e5b59a@xxx.dyndns.com,
not us...
http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bb475e48f8724b3f_done=/group/list.postfix.users/browse_thread/thread/4c122b90b1e5b59a@gmail.com.

Is there a way to do that?
Regard,
--
Below is my config related to above content:
relayhost = smtp.gmail.com
smtp_use_tls = yes
smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtp_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/ThawtePremiumServerCA.pem
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relay through gmail

2008-02-28 Thread vuthecuong
I have 1 dynamic IP address at dyndns.com (xxx.dyndns.com)
and 1 gmail account ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
And I successfully setup my postfix so that when
I send mail to outside, my postfix will relay through [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When recipients received my mails and open them, the mail address
in from of theses mails is [EMAIL PROTECTED], not
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

So I want to change so that when recipients received my mails and
open them, the mail address in from of theses mails is
[EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there a way to do that?
Regard,
--
Below is my config related to above content:
relayhost = smtp.gmail.com
smtp_use_tls = yes
smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtp_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/ThawtePremiumServerCA.pem



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Re: relay through gmail

2008-02-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
incredibly strange - you have your own DNS name, whhy simply you can't 
make your own mail server and use mail in your domain instead of gmail?

much safer, much simpler
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Re: relay through gmail

2008-02-28 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
hi,

2008/2/28, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 incredibly strange - you have your own DNS name, whhy simply you can't
  make your own mail server and use mail in your domain instead of gmail?
  much safer, much simpler

With dyndns he won't be able to deliver to many mailservers out there.
while not RFC-mandatory, a static IP address and rDNS are a must now
in most cases.

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Re[2]: relay through gmail

2008-02-28 Thread Michael Lednev
Здравствуйте, Wojciech.

Вы писали 28 февраля 2008 г., 13:06:38:

 incredibly strange - you have your own DNS name, whhy simply you can't
 make your own mail server and use mail in your domain instead of gmail?
 much safer, much simpler

Who do you trust more? Google or mail server w/o correct PTR record
(or at least other than xxx.dyndns.com)?

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ethernet tunneling

2008-02-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar

is anyone here using this with vtun+tap(4) interface?

it should work but i just need to be sure.

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Re: FreeBSD support this hardware?

2008-02-28 Thread Ivan Voras
Robe wrote:

 And here's the link to the CPU page http://www.dmp.com.tw/tech/Vortex86SX/
 
 Can anybody tell me if FreeBSD support this hardware?

Judging by the SX label and the information on the page, no, because
it doesn't have a FPU.



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Re: relay through gmail

2008-02-28 Thread Nicolas KOWALSKI
cuongvt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So I want to change so that when recipients received my mails and
 open them, the mail address in from of theses mails is
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Is there a way to do that?

First declare your [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional
account in the Gmail interface.

Second, configure postfix to send mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
through gmail smtp server.

In /etc/postfix/main.cf:

smtp_sender_dependent_authentication = yes
smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
sender_dependent_relayhost_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_relay
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_relay_auth


/etc/postfix/sender_relay:

[EMAIL PROTECTED][smtp.gmail.com]:587


/etc/postfix/sender_relay_auth:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]userA:password_of_userA_on_gmail


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Re: relay through gmail

2008-02-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar


With dyndns he won't be able to deliver to many mailservers out there.
while not RFC-mandatory, a static IP address and rDNS are a must now
in most cases.


rDNS is a must? strange but i don't have this in lot of places, and 2 
places with dyndns-like solution (exactly like dyndns.com but done by my 
other machine) - both works without problems.


you are definitely not right.
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configure lagg0 at startup ?

2008-02-28 Thread Frank Bonnet

Hello

I'm trying to setup lagg0 device at bootup
by setting it up in /etc/rc.conf but haven't success ...


If I do it manually everything works like a charm.

ifconfig bge0 up
ifconfig bge1 up
ifconfig lagg0 create
ifconfig lagg0 up laggproto lacp laggport bge0 laggport bge1 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 
netmask 255.255.255.0


Is there a trick to make it work in /etc/rc.conf ?

Thanks


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FreeBSD 6.0-REL, system lockup, recovers when keyboard pressed

2008-02-28 Thread Dale Shaw
Hi all,

I'm sorry if this is a FAQ. I searched but couldn't find a direct
match yada yada..

I have a vanilla 6.0-RELEASE system running a bunch of network
management type tools like RANCID, nfcapd, cacti and so on.

After a few days of normal operation, the system (locked away in a
data centre) falls off the network. Can't SSH to it, can't ping it. No
ARP -- gone! I have no OOB access to this machine (it's a test
box/play pen).

Strangely, when I drive out and visit the machine (a HP DL320) in
person and press enter a couple of times on the keyboard, it springs
back to life like nothing ever happened. I literally see (for example)
log entries dated Feb  07 immediately followed by entries dated Feb
28. Some processes lose the plot and need to be restarted, but others
just continue on their merry way.

In my searching I have found a couple of references to dodgy keyboard
drivers, problems with systems on KVM switches (like this one is), and
power management issues.

Any clues? Unfortunately tracking -STABLE is not really an option for
me on this box, but I'm more than happy to update and build a new
kernel on a once-off basis if someone says it's a known bug/problem
sorted out in a post-6.0-RELEASE fix.

cheers,
Dale
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0-REL, system lockup, recovers when keyboard pressed

2008-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway

Dale Shaw wrote:

Hi all,

I'm sorry if this is a FAQ. I searched but couldn't find a direct
match yada yada..

I have a vanilla 6.0-RELEASE system running a bunch of network
management type tools like RANCID, nfcapd, cacti and so on.

After a few days of normal operation, the system (locked away in a
data centre) falls off the network. Can't SSH to it, can't ping it. No
ARP -- gone! I have no OOB access to this machine (it's a test
box/play pen).

Strangely, when I drive out and visit the machine (a HP DL320) in
person and press enter a couple of times on the keyboard, it springs
back to life like nothing ever happened. I literally see (for example)
log entries dated Feb  07 immediately followed by entries dated Feb
28. Some processes lose the plot and need to be restarted, but others
just continue on their merry way.

In my searching I have found a couple of references to dodgy keyboard
drivers, problems with systems on KVM switches (like this one is), and
power management issues.

Any clues? Unfortunately tracking -STABLE is not really an option for
me on this box, but I'm more than happy to update and build a new
kernel on a once-off basis if someone says it's a known bug/problem
sorted out in a post-6.0-RELEASE fix.


I have a vague memory of something like this but cannot point to a 
specific commit that resolved it.


Kris
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Can't load kernel, trying to install on a Dell R900.

2008-02-28 Thread Nicky Bulthuis

Hello all,

I'm having 'a lot' of troubles installing FreeBSD on a new Dell R900 
from CD. Somehow it just doesn't seem to be able to load the kernel from 
the CD.


The machine is turned on with the CD is inserted.
It shows the message of the BTX Loader and then it stops with an error 
message:


can't load 'kernel'

At first i figured my CD was broken, so i used a different image. Still 
no dice, same error message. I've tried 6.2 (amd64), 6.3 (amd64) and 7.0 
(amd64), sadly none of them work.


I've disabled the internal CDrom drive and used an external USB CDrom 
drive. I figured, perhaps the internal cdrom drive is incompatible with 
FreeBSD. Sadly that also didn't work.


Output from lsdev:

cd devices:
   cd0: Device 0x0
disk devices:
   disk0: Bios drive C:

I've tried install CD from VMWare ESX server, which does boot up and can 
be installed. So the hardware does seem to work.


Can anyone advice me on how to proceed in getting FreeBSD on the 
machine. Perhaps an alternative install method, or perhaps the Loader is 
not configured properly for the R900.


Thanks in advance,
Nicky

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Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway

Adrian Chadd wrote:

(Sorry for top posting.)

Its not actually -that- bad an idea to compare different applications.
It sets the bar for how far the entire system {hardware, OS,
application, network} can be pushed.

If nsd beats bind9 by say 5 or 10% over all, then its nothing to write
home about. If nsd beats bind9 by 50% and shows similar
kernel/interrupt space time use then thats something to stare at. Even
if its just because nsd 'does less' and gives more CPU time to
system/interrupt processing you've identified that the system -can- be
pushed harder, and perhaps working with the bind9 guys a little more
can identify what they're doing wrong.

Thats how I noticed the performance differences between various
platforms running Squid a few years ago - for example, gettimeofday()
being called way, way too frequently - and I compare Squid's
kernel/interrupt time; syscall footprint; hwpmc/oprofile traces; etc
against other proxy-capable applications (varnish, lighttpd, apache)
to see exactly what they're doing differently.


Yep, and in this case NSD is currently 90% faster with prospects to push 
it even higher with some further kernel changes (so far we have improved 
it by 45%).  BIND is limited by its own architecture, so improvements 
cannot be made by modifying the kernel.


Anyway, the motivation here is not a DNS deathmatch, but part of our 
ongoing effort to look for aspects of FreeBSD performance that can be 
improved.  Currently we are looking at UDP performance, and DNS serving 
was thought to be a good model for that.  It turns out that BIND does 
not stress the kernel, but NSD does.


Kris

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Can't work out which disk we are booting from.

2008-02-28 Thread Pedro Almeida

I upgraded my system from 6.2 to 7.0 using cvsup.
I'm using ULE and device polling. After doing make installworld and 
reboot, the system
don't boot anymore. I have some variables in make.conf, but I don't know 
if this the cause of the problem.

CPUTYPE?=p3
CFLAGS= -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -ffast-math
COPTFLAGS= -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -ffast-math
Any ideas of how to fix this? Thanks a lot


Can't work out which disk we are booting from.
Guessed BIOS device 0x not found by probes, defaulting to disk0:
panic: free: guard1 fail @ 0x6c23c
from /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../../common/module.c:959
press any key to reboot
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Making .bash_history non writeable by user?

2008-02-28 Thread Girish Venkatachalam

Hello friends,

My friend wants the user commands history file ~/.bash_history to be non
writeable by user. He feels that the user should not able to erase the commands
entered by him. 

A reasonable requirement.

In case the ~/.bash_history file can also be written to
another location that the root alone can access then perhaps we can
solve this problem.

But AFAIK bash runs as the user process. How can you make the file
readable and writeable by root alone? In that case how can the history 
mechanism function?

Do you guys know a way to get around this problem?

Thanks.

-Girish

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Re: Can't load kernel, trying to install on a Dell R900.

2008-02-28 Thread tomasz dereszynski
Nicky Bulthuis wrote:
 Hello all,

 I'm having 'a lot' of troubles installing FreeBSD on a new Dell R900
 from CD. Somehow it just doesn't seem to be able to load the kernel
 from the CD.

 The machine is turned on with the CD is inserted.
 It shows the message of the BTX Loader and then it stops with an error
 message:

 can't load 'kernel'

 At first i figured my CD was broken, so i used a different image.
 Still no dice, same error message. I've tried 6.2 (amd64), 6.3 (amd64)
 and 7.0 (amd64), sadly none of them work.

 I've disabled the internal CDrom drive and used an external USB CDrom
 drive. I figured, perhaps the internal cdrom drive is incompatible
 with FreeBSD. Sadly that also didn't work.

 Output from lsdev:

 cd devices:
cd0: Device 0x0
 disk devices:
disk0: Bios drive C:

 I've tried install CD from VMWare ESX server, which does boot up and
 can be installed. So the hardware does seem to work.

 Can anyone advice me on how to proceed in getting FreeBSD on the
 machine. Perhaps an alternative install method, or perhaps the Loader
 is not configured properly for the R900.

 Thanks in advance,
 Nicky

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hi there,
i would check bios settings and will try to find something about system
compatibility or somelike (not sure how is it called)


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Re: Making .bash_history non writeable by user?

2008-02-28 Thread Yuri Pankov
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 06:00:52PM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
 
 Hello friends,
 
 My friend wants the user commands history file ~/.bash_history to be non
 writeable by user. He feels that the user should not able to erase the 
 commands
 entered by him. 
 
 A reasonable requirement.
 
 In case the ~/.bash_history file can also be written to
 another location that the root alone can access then perhaps we can
 solve this problem.
 
 But AFAIK bash runs as the user process. How can you make the file
 readable and writeable by root alone? In that case how can the history 
 mechanism function?
 
 Do you guys know a way to get around this problem?
 
 Thanks.
 
 -Girish
 
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 UNIX to him who evil thinks

Try setting 'sappend' flag on .bash_history with chflags(1).


Yuri
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Re: relay through gmail

2008-02-28 Thread Vu The Cuong
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Nicolas KOWALSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 cuongvt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  So I want to change so that when recipients received my mails and
  open them, the mail address in from of theses mails is
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Is there a way to do that?

 First declare your [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional
 account in the Gmail interface.

 Second, configure postfix to send mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 through gmail smtp server.

 In /etc/postfix/main.cf:

 smtp_sender_dependent_authentication = yes
 smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
 smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
 sender_dependent_relayhost_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_relay
 smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_relay_auth


 /etc/postfix/sender_relay:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED][smtp.gmail.com]:587


 /etc/postfix/sender_relay_auth:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]userA:password_of_userA_on_gmail


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First declare your [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional
account in the Gmail interface.
How do I declare my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional
account in the Gmail interface.
I don't quite understand what you mean. Could you be more specific?
I think it is not able to create in Gmail with different domain  something
like dyndns.com etc
Thank you
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Inet access via serial interface

2008-02-28 Thread Potocki, Mariusz
Hello,
Let me ask for a help with my problem.
My task is to configure FreeBSD like below:

Inet-|ADSL modem|-|FreeBSD|-|Radiomodem|~~~|Radiomodem|-|Windows|

To summarize:
FreeBSD is permanently connected to Internet (ethernet link to adsl modem).
To serial port I have connected one radiomodem and few miles away second 
radiomodem is connected to windows box.
This windows box should have access to Internet.

I successfully installed 6.3release and I have Inet access on this box.
What next? Create bridge? ppp -direct? some specialized port/package?
Any idea???

ps.
Two radiomodems are invisible and act as a vry lng null-modem cable.

Thank you
Mariusz
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FreeBSD 7.0 and VMware tools (was Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools)

2008-02-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have the same issue with RC3 and with the 7.0 release.

Is this VMware problem (resp. shall we expect them to fix it) or FreeBSD 
problem (resp. shall we wait for 7.x until it works).


Iv
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Re: Can't load kernel, trying to install on a Dell R900.

2008-02-28 Thread Mel
On Thursday 28 February 2008 12:51:10 Nicky Bulthuis wrote:
 I'm having 'a lot' of troubles installing FreeBSD on a new Dell R900
 from CD. Somehow it just doesn't seem to be able to load the kernel from
 the CD.

 The machine is turned on with the CD is inserted.
 It shows the message of the BTX Loader and then it stops with an error
 message:

 can't load 'kernel'

 At first i figured my CD was broken, so i used a different image. Still
 no dice, same error message. I've tried 6.2 (amd64), 6.3 (amd64) and 7.0
 (amd64), sadly none of them work.

 I've disabled the internal CDrom drive and used an external USB CDrom
 drive. I figured, perhaps the internal cdrom drive is incompatible with
 FreeBSD. Sadly that also didn't work.

 Output from lsdev:

 cd devices:
 cd0: Device 0x0
 disk devices:
 disk0: Bios drive C:

What does ls / give? And ls -l /boot/kernel/kernel?

Been a while since I loaded a kernel manually, but I think:
boot -v cd0:/boot/kernel/kernel
should do the trick.

Does any of that give more hints to what might be the problem?
-- 
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and never get to the software part.
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Re: Using ZFS on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-02-28 Thread Bogdan Ćulibrk

Joe S wrote:

Thanks Dan.

That answered my question.

I'm really happy to replace Solaris with FreeBSD.

All I have to do is import my zfs pool and then upgrade it...2 commands!


That reminds me to ask, can you do it? Importing pools from solaris to 
freebsd or vice versa.




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RE: FreeBSD 7.0 and VMware tools (was Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools)

2008-02-28 Thread Barry Byrne
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have the same issue with RC3 and with the 7.0 release.
 
 Is this VMware problem (resp. shall we expect them to fix it) 
 or FreeBSD 
 problem (resp. shall we wait for 7.x until it works).

I've had no problem installing the tools via the ports on 7.0 release on ESX
server 3.0.1.

Get the latest freebsd.iso image from Vmware Server. And use this in the CD
for the VM. Then:

cd /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6/
make clean install

reboot.

If you want X support the use: /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-tools6

Cheers,

Barry

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xmodmap not working from xinitrc

2008-02-28 Thread Jona Joachim
Hi!
My .xinitrc has an xmodmap tweak to switch the Ctrl and Caps keys.
For some reason these changes are not applied when I start X, Ctrl is still Ctrl
and Caps is still Caps.
However I have to run xmodmap twice when X has started to actually make it work.
It seems like the changes were applied but somehow not used by X, when I rerun
xmodmap it seems like it switches the keys back to their original states and 
when I
then run it again it finally works.

Here's my .xinitrc:


# X tweaks
xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr
xset -b
numlockx on
xmodmap ~/.xmodmap

# Desktop environment
feh --bg-center ~/.themes/FreeBSD.jpg
mydzen 

xmonad 

# Wait
wait $!
pkill dzen2
wait


and here's my .xmodmap:


remove Lock = Caps_Lock
remove Control = Control_L
keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock
keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L
add Lock = Caps_Lock
add Control = Control_L


uname -a:
FreeBSD nirvana.my.domain 7.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #0: Wed Jan 30 
10:06:18 CET 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HYPOCENTER  i386

Installed versions:
xorg-7.3_1
xmodmap-1.0.3

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Re: Inet access via serial interface

2008-02-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar

FreeBSD is permanently connected to Internet (ethernet link to adsl modem).
To serial port I have connected one radiomodem and few miles away second 
radiomodem is connected to windows box.
This windows box should have access to Internet.

I successfully installed 6.3release and I have Inet access on this box.
What next? Create bridge? ppp -direct? some specialized port/package?


ppp -direct, on windoze side it's not that simple.
in windoze you can connect through serial port with dialing, but you can 
not without dialing.


feel the power of windoze ;)


emulate modem and connecting with chatscript ;) or ask microsoft how to 
make windows do LESS that it can.

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Re: Can't load kernel, trying to install on a Dell R900.

2008-02-28 Thread Nicky Bulthuis

Mel wrote:

On Thursday 28 February 2008 12:51:10 Nicky Bulthuis wrote:
  

I'm having 'a lot' of troubles installing FreeBSD on a new Dell R900
from CD. Somehow it just doesn't seem to be able to load the kernel from
the CD.

The machine is turned on with the CD is inserted.
It shows the message of the BTX Loader and then it stops with an error
message:

can't load 'kernel'

At first i figured my CD was broken, so i used a different image. Still
no dice, same error message. I've tried 6.2 (amd64), 6.3 (amd64) and 7.0
(amd64), sadly none of them work.

I've disabled the internal CDrom drive and used an external USB CDrom
drive. I figured, perhaps the internal cdrom drive is incompatible with
FreeBSD. Sadly that also didn't work.

Output from lsdev:

cd devices:
cd0: Device 0x0
disk devices:
disk0: Bios drive C:



What does ls / give? And ls -l /boot/kernel/kernel?

Been a while since I loaded a kernel manually, but I think:
boot -v cd0:/boot/kernel/kernel
should do the trick.

Does any of that give more hints to what might be the problem?
  

Well, i've made some progress with your suggestions.

First things first, i had already updated the BIOS from version 1.1.0 to 
1.1.3, the latest i could find on the Dell website.


ls / and ls -l /boot/kernel/kernel both give me 'bad path'.
boot -v cd0:/boot/kernel/kernel gives two messages, can't boot 
kernel followed by no bootable kernel


Using 'ls cd0:/' gives me the cdrom file listing, so that works. I can 
browse the cdrom directory structure.


I've done 'load cd0:/boot/kernel/kernel', which actually loads the kernel.
I get the 'text[memadres] data[memaddress] syms[memaddress]' messages, 
and 'lsmod' shows me a loaded kernel.


however, running 'boot -v' doesn't seem to work. It shows me the 
progressbar |-/\, make a full circle, but stops right after.


Nicky




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RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar

continued

see

http://www.sharktime.com/private/ftp/

how internet sexplorer and other browsers (all screens from windows)
get listing.

in inetd.conf i have

ftp stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/libexec/ftpd   ftpd -l



any ideas? it worked some time ago when i had 6.2. really nothing changed?

or maybe something else to check?
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RE: ARP Messages

2008-02-28 Thread Maechler Philippe
Hi Erik

 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Norgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:01 AM
 To: Maechler Philippe
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: ARP Messages
 
 
 Maechler Philippe wrote:
   -   
  |   server|  switch  switch  
  |192.168.3.222|[(3.x/24)]--[(3.x/24)]
  |80.242.192.80|bge1| 
-|
 |bge0---
 |   |
  [switch][Gateway 80.242.192.65]---[INTERNET]   |
 |   |
 |   |
  [switch]   |
 |   |
 |bge0   |
   - |
  |  80.242.192.81 00:19:bb:25:7b:63||
  | 192.168.3.226  00:19:bb:25:7b:64|
   -
  Do you see the same loop as I do?
 
  Request goes out on one interface, response comes back on
the
  other -
  pretty much what the message says.
 
  
  Yes I see the loop, the error messages make sense but don't 
 understand 
  it :/ I set up extra routes for the private network so how
can a 
  packet from the public interface arrive at a private one?
  
  I'll recheck the cabeling, the routes on the servers and the
switch 
  the're connected to and give you feedback here
 
 Well, it appears to me that you are on the wrong box to solve
the 
 problem. The server sends an error message as it should.
 
 What happens is that your unnamed box receives an arp request
on its 
 bge0 interface, but sends the respond on its bge1 interface. 
 You can use 
 snort to listen for arp packets to see what's going on.
 
 I do not know why you have created a loop, with correct routing
and 
 firewall there should be no need for a loop. The easy solution
is to 
 pull a cable - either one on that unnamed box.
 

Ok I rechecked everything and found the loop. There was a
missconfiguration/misscabling on one switch/vlan which caused
leaking arp-broadcast packages to other ports :(

Thanks to all for your hints and help
Philippe

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Re: Can't load kernel, trying to install on a Dell R900.

2008-02-28 Thread tomasz dereszynski
Nicky Bulthuis wrote:
 Mel wrote:
 On Thursday 28 February 2008 12:51:10 Nicky Bulthuis wrote:
  
 I'm having 'a lot' of troubles installing FreeBSD on a new Dell R900
 from CD. Somehow it just doesn't seem to be able to load the kernel
 from
 the CD.

 The machine is turned on with the CD is inserted.
 It shows the message of the BTX Loader and then it stops with an error
 message:

 can't load 'kernel'

 At first i figured my CD was broken, so i used a different image. Still
 no dice, same error message. I've tried 6.2 (amd64), 6.3 (amd64) and
 7.0
 (amd64), sadly none of them work.

 I've disabled the internal CDrom drive and used an external USB CDrom
 drive. I figured, perhaps the internal cdrom drive is incompatible with
 FreeBSD. Sadly that also didn't work.

 Output from lsdev:

 cd devices:
 cd0: Device 0x0
 disk devices:
 disk0: Bios drive C:
 

 What does ls / give? And ls -l /boot/kernel/kernel?

 Been a while since I loaded a kernel manually, but I think:
 boot -v cd0:/boot/kernel/kernel
 should do the trick.

 Does any of that give more hints to what might be the problem?
   
 Well, i've made some progress with your suggestions.

 First things first, i had already updated the BIOS from version 1.1.0
 to 1.1.3, the latest i could find on the Dell website.

 ls / and ls -l /boot/kernel/kernel both give me 'bad path'.
 boot -v cd0:/boot/kernel/kernel gives two messages, can't boot
 kernel followed by no bootable kernel

 Using 'ls cd0:/' gives me the cdrom file listing, so that works. I can
 browse the cdrom directory structure.

 I've done 'load cd0:/boot/kernel/kernel', which actually loads the
 kernel.
 I get the 'text[memadres] data[memaddress] syms[memaddress]' messages,
 and 'lsmod' shows me a loaded kernel.

 however, running 'boot -v' doesn't seem to work. It shows me the
 progressbar |-/\, make a full circle, but stops right after.
you sure there is not option in bios about supported systems or something?
ive seen exactly the same problem with OpenBSD on HP boxes and you have
to disable one option in bios (can find out how is it called but its HP
not DELL) and then it works just fine

if you are 100% sure it is nothing to do with bios then sorry for
bothering you with my ideas.


-- 
bEsT rEgArDs|   Confidence is what you have before you
tomasz dereszynski  |   understand the problem. -- Woody Allen
|   
Spes confisa Deo|   In theory, theory and practice are much 
numquam confusa recedit |   the same. In practice they are very 
|   different. -- Albert Einstein 


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Re: FreeBSD 7.0 and VMware tools (was Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools)

2008-02-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Barry Byrne wrote:

I've had no problem installing the tools via the ports on 7.0 release on ESX
server 3.0.1.


...


cd /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6/
make clean install

reboot.


I was thinking about the ports. How does the ports version compare to 
the official coming with the VMware?


Iv
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Re: xmodmap not working from xinitrc

2008-02-28 Thread Jona Joachim
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 03:42:21PM +0100, Armando Cambra wrote:
 If I remember correctly (can't test it here... no unixoid system near),
 startx sources the .xmodmaprc in your home directory, so you swap your keys
 twice as you start up X.
 
 I'd try without xmodmap in your script an see if it works.

No it doesn't work if I comment out the line. Also the startx script doesn't
mention xmodmap. At least I only have to run xmodmap once if I don't put it
inside xinitrc.

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Configuring a HP Laserjet 1018 USB printer on KDE

2008-02-28 Thread User Robert Falanga
First  am new using freebsd and would like help getting the printer 
configured. After installing and staarting CUPS. When I go to SETTINGS  
Peripherals  printers I get:
Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager:
Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly 
installed and running. Error: localhost: read failed (14).
If I use LPR/LPRng things seem to be going well until I get to the screen 
asking for URI:   I have no clue as to what it is asking for.

HELP

Bob Falanga
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Re: xmodmap not working from xinitrc

2008-02-28 Thread Armando Cambra
If I remember correctly (can't test it here... no unixoid system near),
startx sources the .xmodmaprc in your home directory, so you swap your keys
twice as you start up X.

I'd try without xmodmap in your script an see if it works.

Regards,

Armando


On 2/28/08, Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!
 My .xinitrc has an xmodmap tweak to switch the Ctrl and Caps keys.
 For some reason these changes are not applied when I start X, Ctrl is
 still Ctrl
 and Caps is still Caps.
 However I have to run xmodmap twice when X has started to actually make it
 work.
 It seems like the changes were applied but somehow not used by X, when I
 rerun
 xmodmap it seems like it switches the keys back to their original states
 and when I
 then run it again it finally works.

 Here's my .xinitrc:

 
 # X tweaks
 xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr
 xset -b
 numlockx on
 xmodmap ~/.xmodmap

 # Desktop environment
 feh --bg-center ~/.themes/FreeBSD.jpg
 mydzen 

 xmonad 

 # Wait
 wait $!
 pkill dzen2
 wait
 

 and here's my .xmodmap:

 
 remove Lock = Caps_Lock
 remove Control = Control_L
 keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock
 keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L
 add Lock = Caps_Lock
 add Control = Control_L
 

 uname -a:
 FreeBSD nirvana.my.domain 7.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #0: Wed
 Jan 30 10:06:18 CET 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HYPOCENTER  i386

 Installed versions:
 xorg-7.3_1
 xmodmap-1.0.3

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Re: relay through gmail

2008-02-28 Thread Nicolas KOWALSKI
Vu The Cuong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

First declare your [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional
account in the Gmail interface.
 How do I declare my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional
 account in the Gmail interface.

You have not searched in the interface before asking this, have you ?

Settings - Account - Add another email address.

 I think it is not able to create in Gmail with different domain
 something like dyndns.com etc

Yes, it can. Just check the headers of my original reply (not this
one) if you do not believe me.

-- 
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panic: free: guard1 fail @ 0x6c23c

2008-02-28 Thread Pedro Almeida

I upgraded my system from 6.2 to 7.0 using cvsup.
I'm using ULE and device polling. After doing make installworld and 
reboot, the system
don't boot anymore. I have some variables in make.conf, but I don't know 
if this the cause of the problem.

CPUTYPE?=p3
CFLAGS= -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -ffast-math
COPTFLAGS= -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -ffast-math
Any ideas of how to fix this? Thanks a lot


Can't work out which disk we are booting from.
Guessed BIOS device 0x not found by probes, defaulting to disk0:
panic: free: guard1 fail @ 0x6c23c
from /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../../common/module.c:959
press any key to reboot
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Re: relay through gmail

2008-02-28 Thread Vu The Cuong
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Nicolas KOWALSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Vu The Cuong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 First declare your [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional
 account in the Gmail interface.
  How do I declare my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional
  account in the Gmail interface.

 You have not searched in the interface before asking this, have you ?

 Settings - Account - Add another email address.

  I think it is not able to create in Gmail with different domain
  something like dyndns.com etc

 Yes, it can. Just check the headers of my original reply (not this
 one) if you do not believe me.

 --
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Thanks Nicolas KOWALSKI, I got it. in fact I already
searched around but not reading char by char in the interface. I will take
this into account.
Thank you very much
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Re: panic: free: guard1 fail @ 0x6c23c

2008-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway

Pedro Almeida wrote:

I upgraded my system from 6.2 to 7.0 using cvsup.
I'm using ULE and device polling. After doing make installworld and 
reboot, the system
don't boot anymore. I have some variables in make.conf, but I don't know 
if this the cause of the problem.

CPUTYPE?=p3
CFLAGS= -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -ffast-math
COPTFLAGS= -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -ffast-math
Any ideas of how to fix this? Thanks a lot


Don't do that.

Kris

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Re: Using ZFS on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-02-28 Thread Tom Van Looy
From http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html
Experimental support for Sun's ZFS filesystem.

I'm not putting this on a production server yet ...



- Oorspronkelijk bericht -
Van: Joe S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: woensdag, februari 27, 2008 11:49 PM
Aan: 'Dan Nelson'
CC: 'freebsd-questions'
Onderwerp: Re: Using ZFS on FreeBSD 7.0

Thanks Dan.

That answered my question.

I'm really happy to replace Solaris with FreeBSD.

All I have to do is import my zfs pool and then upgrade it...2 commands!



On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the last episode (Feb 27), Joe said:
   I'm currently running Solaris 10 Update 4 on x86 hardware at home.
  
   I'm excited that ZFS is coming in FreeBSD 7.0.
  
   I've found that I don't really like Solaris that much (no ports!). I
   find it so different from other OS's and I don't want to learn
   another OS just to have a decent fileserver.
  
   So I'm looking forward to migrating to FreeBSD 7.0 from Solaris 10
   Update 4.
  
   Since ZFS was ported from Solaris, at version of Solaris 10 or
   OpenSolaris Nevada is FreeBSD 7.0 support similar to?
  
   In other words, will a lose some features, fixes, and enhancements in
   ZFS on FreeBSD 7.0 or will I gain?

  Going from S10U4 (zfs pool version 4) to FreeBSD 7 (v6) you will
  actually gain gzip compression support.  Opensolaris is up to v10.

  --
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Re: panic: free: guard1 fail @ 0x6c23c

2008-02-28 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 03:16:35PM +, Pedro Almeida wrote:
 I upgraded my system from 6.2 to 7.0 using cvsup.
 I'm using ULE and device polling. After doing make installworld and reboot, 
 the system
 don't boot anymore. I have some variables in make.conf, but I don't know if 
 this the cause of the problem.
 CPUTYPE?=p3
 CFLAGS= -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -ffast-math
 COPTFLAGS= -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -ffast-math
 Any ideas of how to fix this? Thanks a lot

I don't know if the make.conf variables you show are the cause, but it would
not surprise me.  I would suggest you remove CFLAGS and COPTFLAGS entirely from
make.conf and just relying on the default values for them (which are
'-O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing'.
The flags you use are unlikely to bring any noticable improvements compared
to the default, but are likely to make code misbehave.





 
 
 Can't work out which disk we are booting from.
 Guessed BIOS device 0x not found by probes, defaulting to disk0:
 panic: free: guard1 fail @ 0x6c23c
 from /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../../common/module.c:959
 press any key to reboot

-- 
Insert your favourite quote here.
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RE: Inet access via serial interface

2008-02-28 Thread Potocki, Mariusz
Any hint what relevant should be in rc.conf and ppp.conf?
Last time I used ppp dial-up when 3.1 release was the newest version, so I 
discover the system again...


-Original Message-
From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 lutego 2008 15:31
To: Potocki, Mariusz
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Inet access via serial interface

 FreeBSD is permanently connected to Internet (ethernet link to adsl modem).
 To serial port I have connected one radiomodem and few miles away second 
 radiomodem is connected to windows box.
 This windows box should have access to Internet.

 I successfully installed 6.3release and I have Inet access on this box.
 What next? Create bridge? ppp -direct? some specialized port/package?

ppp -direct, on windoze side it's not that simple.
in windoze you can connect through serial port with dialing, but you can not 
without dialing.

feel the power of windoze ;)


emulate modem and connecting with chatscript ;) or ask microsoft how to make 
windows do LESS that it can.
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RE: Inet access via serial interface

2008-02-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Any hint what relevant should be in rc.conf and ppp.conf?


see /usr/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample and direct-server:
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Re: Disk Geometry

2008-02-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:48:37AM +0100, ras bsd wrote:

 Hello list, this is my first post here.
 
 My problem is:
 
 I've installed the OS in my laptop in this order, Win XP and Debian
 GNU/Linux. I'm trying to dive into the freebsd world from many years
 in GNU/Linux. When i start the installation, when i have to enter in
 the disk partition section an error appears saying that the disk
 geometry is not valid and, anyway, I can not see the free disk space
 that i left free after the other OS. My scope is keep working the
 three OS.
 How can i know the correct disk geometry? What am i doing wrong?

Well, I don't know why it does not see the free space unless you 
are looking in the wrong step.   There is often confusion by new
users who come from the MS world because FreeBSD uses the term 'slice'
and MS uses the term 'primary partition' to refer to the same thing.
Due to ancient conventions in Bios and etc, there can be up to 4 slices
(or primary partitions) on any physical disk.   

Lunix has its own notion of extended partition as well.  Don't try
to use that for FreeBSD.

FreeBSD must be installed/built in a free slice (primary partition by
MS vocabulary).   It cannot be put in some extended partition space.

It is possible that you have already used up the 4 slices if the laptop 
manufacturer put a diagnostic utility slice on the drive.  That is 
normally hidden from MS, but will show up to FreeBSD.  If that is true, 
and you have used up the number of slices, then FreeBSD will not allow 
you to add any.  You will need to use a tool such as 'gparted'  or 
Partition Magic to shuffle things around and maybe squeeze the other
slices and even nuke one.

Then FreeBSD uses the term 'partition' to refer to the subdivisions
of a slice.  MS has some things called extended partitions which are
not the same thing at all.

Anyway, the point where you first need to see the free space is in
the step dealing with the slices which is done with fdisk(8).

As for the disk geometry issue, it normally does not matter.  That
is the BIOS complaining.   You want to just let it go ahead and 
build things and try to ignore that error message.   Once it gets 
past loading the boot sector from a slice, FreeBSD no longer used 
the BIOS.   It handles everything itself.

There are exceptions to this response, but go ahead (once you get the
free space issue figured out) and try it and see if it works.  It
won't hurt anything and if it works, you're home free.  If it doesn't
then you have some more exploring to do.I am not quite sure what
because although I have frequently seen that message - almost all 
the time, I have never had it not work to just go ahead and slice,
partition and build and ignore the message.  That is with both IDE(SATA)
and SCSI(SAS).

So, your real problem is finding that elusive free slice space or
freeing up a slice number to use for it.

Good luck,

jerry
  
 
 Mi laptop is Intel Core2 Duo and the Hard Disk is SATA 200 Gb Toshiba
 MK2035GSS-(S1).
 
 Thank you.
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Re: Using ZFS on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-02-28 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 28), Bogdan 'Culibrk said:
 Joe S wrote:
 Thanks Dan.
 
 That answered my question.
 
 I'm really happy to replace Solaris with FreeBSD.
 
 All I have to do is import my zfs pool and then upgrade it...2 commands!
 
 That reminds me to ask, can you do it? Importing pools from solaris to 
 freebsd or vice versa.

You should be able to, as long as you create the pool on the system
with the lowest zfs version and remember to never run zpool upgrade
on the newer system :)

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Link Aggregation

2008-02-28 Thread David Wassman
All,
 
I am having some difficulty in getting any protocol link aggregate to
work for network teaming. I have read the chapter in the handbook and
followed the instructions there. Unfortunately, it always comes up no
carrier. I have tried the failover, loadbalance and lacp (with an
enabled lacp switch) to no avail. The link members are showing as active
but the lagg0 interface reports as no carrirer. I have assigned it a
valid IP address, etc.
 
I have tried this on two different PC, one virtual in VMWare running
FreeBSD 6.3 amd64 and on a Dell PE 1300 running FreeBSD 6.3 i386 (I know
it is old, just for testing). Both behave identically. 
 
No updates have been made to either machine so if that is the issue let
me know. Other than that, I am at a lose (not much comes up in Google,
at least not in English).
 
Thanks for the help.
 

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Re: Mirroring / Cloning FreeBSD System

2008-02-28 Thread Roger Olofsson



FreeBSD-Utah skrev:

I have a question on how to mirror a FreeBSD
installation / system.

This environment will have two identical / separate
systems referred to as “System A” and “System B”

-   I want to install FreeBSD on to “System A”
-   Once that installation is complete with selected
ports and custom applications, I want to make an exact
duplicate of “System A” on “System B”

I don’t want to do this with drives in the same
system, rather I would like to “clone” “System A”

Also, it would be nice to be able to do this as a
“mirroring” solution to keep a clone over time of the
system in the case of failure of either “System A” or
“System B”

Is this possible to do? If so, any direction on how I
would do this would be welcome.

Is there a port / application that enables this?

Thank you in advance!



  

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I use rsync to mirror and freevrrpd for failover via heartbeat.

Freevrrpd should be in ports. Freevrrpd gives both systems the same 
virtual ip so you will need to avoid rsyncing the configuration file for 
it. There is a nice feature that makes you trigger a script when one 
system goes down to initialize configurations on the system taking over.


Mind you, if you are using firewall as part of the system you will need 
to alias the interfaces and use dns names in configuration files.


Just my nickels worth

/R
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Upgrading to 7 from 6.3

2008-02-28 Thread B . Cook

Hello All,

I was going to try and update a box from 6.3 to 7 via buildworld all  
32 bit, nothing 64.


Assuming it should be done like this:

make buildworld
make buildkernel
mergemaster -p
make installkernel
(reboot)
(startup on 7 kernel)
make installworld
mergemaster (do full mergemaster)
make installworld
(reboot)

(make sure all is working in 7 then do it all again; just to be sure)
make buildworld
make buildkernel
make installkernel
make installworld


Sound about right? or too redundant?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Upgrading to 7 from 6.3

2008-02-28 Thread Dominic Fandrey

B. Cook wrote:

Hello All,

I was going to try and update a box from 6.3 to 7 via buildworld all 32 
bit, nothing 64.


Assuming it should be done like this:

make buildworld
make buildkernel
mergemaster -p
make installkernel
(reboot)
(startup on 7 kernel)
make installworld
mergemaster (do full mergemaster)
make installworld
(reboot)

(make sure all is working in 7 then do it all again; just to be sure)
make buildworld
make buildkernel
make installkernel
make installworld


Sound about right? or too redundant?

Thanks in advance.


The doing it all again part might bring some very slight performance 
improvements due to the compiler change.

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online DVD distribution not available

2008-02-28 Thread peanut
FreeBSD can be acquired on CD-ROM or DVD from FreeBSD Mall, or one of the 
other CD-ROM and DVD Publishers.

But FreeBSD DVD (iso) can't be downloaded. WHY??

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Re: online DVD distribution not available

2008-02-28 Thread Dominic Fandrey

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

FreeBSD can be acquired on CD-ROM or DVD from FreeBSD Mall, or one of the other 
CD-ROM and DVD Publishers.

But FreeBSD DVD (iso) can't be downloaded. WHY??


Because the DVDs are created by the sellers. There are no official DVD ISOs.
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Re: online DVD distribution not available

2008-02-28 Thread Manolis Kiagias

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

FreeBSD can be acquired on CD-ROM or DVD from FreeBSD Mall, or one of the other 
CD-ROM and DVD Publishers.

But FreeBSD DVD (iso) can't be downloaded. WHY??
  

Definitely not official, but you can download from here:

http://www.tuxdistro.com/torrents-details.php?id=921

Instructions on creating your own, here:

http://www.pa.msu.edu/~tigner/bsddvd.html
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Re: Upgrading to 7 from 6.3

2008-02-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Dominic Fandrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 B. Cook wrote:
 Hello All,

 I was going to try and update a box from 6.3 to 7 via buildworld all
 32 bit, nothing 64.

 Assuming it should be done like this:

 make buildworld
 make buildkernel
 mergemaster -p
 make installkernel
 (reboot)
 (startup on 7 kernel)
 make installworld
 mergemaster (do full mergemaster)
 make installworld
 (reboot)

 (make sure all is working in 7 then do it all again; just to be sure)
 make buildworld
 make buildkernel
 make installkernel
 make installworld


 Sound about right? or too redundant?

 Thanks in advance.

 The doing it all again part might bring some very slight performance
 improvements due to the compiler change.

It *shouldn't* make any difference; buildworld bootstraps its own
compiler as one of the first things it does.

None of the steps really need to be done more than once.  The
redundancy as described isn't harmful, either.
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Re: Upgrading to 7 from 6.3

2008-02-28 Thread Schiz0
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Lowell Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dominic Fandrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   B. Cook wrote:
   Hello All,
  
   I was going to try and update a box from 6.3 to 7 via buildworld all
   32 bit, nothing 64.
  
   Assuming it should be done like this:
  
   make buildworld
   make buildkernel
   mergemaster -p
   make installkernel
   (reboot)
   (startup on 7 kernel)
   make installworld
   mergemaster (do full mergemaster)
   make installworld
   (reboot)
  
   (make sure all is working in 7 then do it all again; just to be sure)
   make buildworld
   make buildkernel
   make installkernel
   make installworld
  
  
   Sound about right? or too redundant?
  
   Thanks in advance.
  
   The doing it all again part might bring some very slight performance
   improvements due to the compiler change.

  It *shouldn't* make any difference; buildworld bootstraps its own
  compiler as one of the first things it does.

  None of the steps really need to be done more than once.  The
  redundancy as described isn't harmful, either.
  ___

You also have to recompile all your ports due to a major change in how
the ports work.

portupgrade -f -a
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Re: Upgrading to 7 from 6.3

2008-02-28 Thread B. Cook

Yea I saw how openssl was updated and a ton of other things as well..

this is a new box w/o much on it.. so it's a good test.

(going to try portmaster on this box as well.. )

portmaster -fa (iirc)


On Feb 28, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Schiz0 wrote:


On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Lowell Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dominic Fandrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


B. Cook wrote:

Hello All,

I was going to try and update a box from 6.3 to 7 via buildworld  
all

32 bit, nothing 64.

Assuming it should be done like this:

make buildworld
make buildkernel
mergemaster -p
make installkernel
(reboot)
(startup on 7 kernel)
make installworld
mergemaster (do full mergemaster)
make installworld
(reboot)

(make sure all is working in 7 then do it all again; just to be  
sure)

make buildworld
make buildkernel
make installkernel
make installworld


Sound about right? or too redundant?

Thanks in advance.


The doing it all again part might bring some very slight performance
improvements due to the compiler change.


It *shouldn't* make any difference; buildworld bootstraps its own
compiler as one of the first things it does.

None of the steps really need to be done more than once.  The
redundancy as described isn't harmful, either.
___


You also have to recompile all your ports due to a major change in how
the ports work.

portupgrade -f -a



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Re: Configuring a HP Laserjet 1018 USB printer on KDE

2008-02-28 Thread Predrag Punosevac

User Robert Falanga wrote:
First  am new using freebsd and would like help getting the printer 
configured. After installing and staarting CUPS. When I go to SETTINGS  
Peripherals  printers I get:
  
That is not the way to configure printer on vanilla  FreeBSD. If you 
want to use something like that

install PC-BSD or DesktopBSD.

To install the printer  do the  following
1. Alter permission on the device nodes  chmod  0660  /dev/ulpt0

2. chgrp cupsd /dev/ulpt0

3. Add yourself to cupsd group by editing file /etc/groups

4. Move the commands of the native lpd printing system so that you can 
use CUPS commands

mv /usr/bin/lp  /usr/bin/lp.bak
mv /usr/bin/lpr /usr/bin/lpr.bak
mv /usr/bin/lpq /usr/bin/lpq.bak
mv /usr/bin/lprm  /usr/bin/lprm.bak


4. Restart cupsd for instance by adding cupsd_enable=YES into your 
/etc/rc.conf at the same time

disable lpd daemon by adding lpd_enable=NO

5. Reboot

6. Point the web-browser to http://localhost:631 to add the printer

NOTE:

1. Your printer is using foo2zjs reversed engineered driver which you 
must compile from ports. People
have reported mixed results with  the driver! You have to compile the 
driver before you start adding the printer.


2. You might need to disable your firewall or at least port 631 which is 
used by Internet Printing Protocol (IPP)

which is in turned used by CUPS.


Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager:
Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly 
installed and running. Error: localhost: read failed (14).
If I use LPR/LPRng things seem to be going well until I get to the screen 
asking for URI:   I have no clue as to what it is asking for.


HELP

Bob Falanga
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Re: online DVD distribution not available

2008-02-28 Thread Predrag Punosevac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

FreeBSD can be acquired on CD-ROM or DVD from FreeBSD Mall, or one of the other 
CD-ROM and DVD Publishers.

But FreeBSD DVD (iso) can't be downloaded. WHY??
  


Not true. Search the internet.

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Re: XForwarding problem

2008-02-28 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Denny White wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1


On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 02:46:41AM -0700, Predrag Punosevac sez:
  

Denny White wrote:



-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

For the last couple of days I've tried everything I can think of to
make XForwarding work with ssh. As per the FAQ, I have set it like so:


In sshd_config

X11Forwarding yes


In ssh_config

ForwardAgent yes
ForwardX11 yes

I can use it passably well in one direction from a box across the
room to the one I do most of my work on. But, when I try it from
this box to the one across the room, I get the xauth error message
along with all typed characters doubled on the screen. I went ahead
anyway and typed 'display somefile.jpg' just to see what I'd get 
got this:

Xlib: connection to localhost:10.0 refused by server
Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
display: unable to open X server `localhost:10.0'.

I've read the man page on xauth(1) and experimented with its
commands. I've even wiped out the .Xauthority file on both boxes
and restarted X, to no avail. Possibly I should mention too, that
I boot on both boxes to a xdm login. I don't know if that would
have any bearing on the problem or not. Thanks for any help I
can get on this.
  

What happens when you try to do the following?


Try to do remote login with as follows
ssh -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED]



I get this:

Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11
forwarding.

And, everything I type at the prompt is doubled.
 
  

you should be now in the shell on the remote host

try to start x client like xdvi or xfig or something like emacs by 
typing xdvi


If xdvi pops up that means that the client is running on the remote host 
but it is displayer on the local X server



Okay, if after getting in I try to open something like xzgv, I get:

Xlib: connection to localhost:10.0 refused by server
  

Ok you do have a permission problem

Read carefully man pages for sshd_config  file .  You need to uncomment 
few lines for X tunneling.
You can also look at the Secure Architectures with OpenBSD section 
about OpenSSH.


I do not think that the problem is with X server though.
Best,
Predrag




Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key

Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0
 
Like I said earlier, I read the man page too on xauth  tried

sending

xauth extract - $DISPLAY | rsh otherhost xauth merge -

but it doesn't appear to help. I still get the error messages
and double typed characters.

  


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Job Posting?

2008-02-28 Thread Gonzales, Larry Z
Hi, I work with the Visual Computing Group here at Intel Corporation.
We are looking for some Operating Systems Engineers with Unix kernel and
FreeBSD experience.  Please review the job descriptions below and let me
know if it would be possible to post or distribute these job
opportunities to FreeBSG.org members.

 

Intel's Visual Computing Group (VCG) has the mission to establish the
future of computing for high-throughput applications. We are initially
focused on developing advanced products based on a many-core
architecture targeting high-end client platforms. We're aggressively
positioned to advance the state of the art in graphics and other
high-throughput workloads. Our vision is that the resulting ingredients
and technology will extend to other platforms including mobile clients,
servers, and embedded applications over time.

 


Operating Systems Engineer - 546420

 

 


Responsibilities and Details

 

 

 

 

 

 

Description

The newly formed Visual Computing Group is seeking a number of smart
software engineers and/or architects with expertise with operating
system internals and drivers to make extensive changes to a Unix
operating system for this specialized application. In this position, you
will be helping drive requirements for hardware interfaces and
substantially influence the overall driver architecture and execution
direction. You will be working on drivers, major kernel changes,
exception and interrupt handlers, firmware, encryption services, thermal
and power management, performance analysis, advanced MP thread
scheduling, unique page fault handling, and many others.

 

Qualifications

You should possess at least a Bachelor of Science degree in Computer
Science or Computer Engineering with at least six years of experience in
software design and development. A Master's degree is preferred.
Additional qualifications include: 
- Knowledge of operating system internals and theory of operation 
- Advanced UNIX* programming concepts (pthreads, shared memory and other
IPC, driver interface) 
- Knowledge of x86 processor concepts like paging features, protected
mode, SMP support 
- Excellent C programming skills 
The following qualifications would be added advantages: 
- Experience with BSD*-based or Linux* operating systems 
- Experience with device drivers, especially under UNIX-like operating
systems 
- Experience with highly threaded and high processor count environments 
- Experience with Vista* display drivers 
- Experience with video display controllers

 

 


Operating Systems Engineer - 546419

 

 


Responsibilities and Details

 

 

 

 

 

 

Description

The newly formed Visual Computing Group is seeking a number of smart
software engineers and/or architects with expertise with operating
system internals and drivers to make extensive changes to a Unix
operating system for this specialized application. In this position, you
will be helping drive requirements for hardware interfaces and
substantially influence the overall driver architecture and execution
direction. You will be working on drivers, major kernel changes,
exception and interrupt handlers, firmware, encryption services, thermal
and power management, performance analysis, advanced MP thread
scheduling, unique page fault handling, and many others.

 

Qualifications

You must possess at least a Master's degree in Computer Science or
Computer Engineering. A Ph.D. degree or work experience is preferred.
Additional qualifications include: 
- Knowledge of operating system internals and theory of operation 
- Advanced UNIX* programming concepts (pthreads, shared memory and other
IPC, driver interface) 
- Knowledge of x86 processor concepts like paging features, protected
mode, SMP support 
- Excellent C programming skills 
The following qualifications would be added advantages: 
- Experience with BSD*-based or Linux* operating systems 
- Experience with device drivers, especially under UNIX-like operating
systems 
- Experience with highly threaded and high processor count environments 
- Experience with Vista* display drivers 
- Experience with video display controllers

 

 

Best regards,

Larry Gonzales

Sr. Recruiting Consultant

Intel Corporation/VCG

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.intel.com/jobs/usa/submit/

 

If you are a hiring manager or hiring assistant and need help with the
hiring tools, please contact the GCM at 1-800-238-0486, Option 2.

 

 

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Re: Job Posting?

2008-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway

Gonzales, Larry Z wrote:

Hi, I work with the Visual Computing Group here at Intel Corporation.
We are looking for some Operating Systems Engineers with Unix kernel and
FreeBSD experience.  Please review the job descriptions below and let me
know if it would be possible to post or distribute these job
opportunities to FreeBSG.org members.


The [EMAIL PROTECTED] list is a better place for this.

Thanks,
Kris
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Re: Job Posting?

2008-02-28 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman

You should post this to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Gonzales, Larry Z wrote:

Hi, I work with the Visual Computing Group here at Intel Corporation.
We are looking for some Operating Systems Engineers with Unix kernel and
FreeBSD experience.  Please review the job descriptions below and let me
know if it would be possible to post or distribute these job
opportunities to FreeBSG.org members.

 


Intel's Visual Computing Group (VCG) has the mission to establish the
future of computing for high-throughput applications. We are initially
focused on developing advanced products based on a many-core
architecture targeting high-end client platforms. We're aggressively
positioned to advance the state of the art in graphics and other
high-throughput workloads. Our vision is that the resulting ingredients
and technology will extend to other platforms including mobile clients,
servers, and embedded applications over time.

 



Operating Systems Engineer - 546420

 

 



Responsibilities and Details

 

 

 

 

 

 


Description

The newly formed Visual Computing Group is seeking a number of smart
software engineers and/or architects with expertise with operating
system internals and drivers to make extensive changes to a Unix
operating system for this specialized application. In this position, you
will be helping drive requirements for hardware interfaces and
substantially influence the overall driver architecture and execution
direction. You will be working on drivers, major kernel changes,
exception and interrupt handlers, firmware, encryption services, thermal
and power management, performance analysis, advanced MP thread
scheduling, unique page fault handling, and many others.

 


Qualifications

You should possess at least a Bachelor of Science degree in Computer
Science or Computer Engineering with at least six years of experience in
software design and development. A Master's degree is preferred.
Additional qualifications include: 
- Knowledge of operating system internals and theory of operation 
- Advanced UNIX* programming concepts (pthreads, shared memory and other
IPC, driver interface) 
- Knowledge of x86 processor concepts like paging features, protected
mode, SMP support 
- Excellent C programming skills 
The following qualifications would be added advantages: 
- Experience with BSD*-based or Linux* operating systems 
- Experience with device drivers, especially under UNIX-like operating
systems 
- Experience with highly threaded and high processor count environments 
- Experience with Vista* display drivers 
- Experience with video display controllers


 

 



Operating Systems Engineer - 546419

 

 



Responsibilities and Details

 

 

 

 

 

 


Description

The newly formed Visual Computing Group is seeking a number of smart
software engineers and/or architects with expertise with operating
system internals and drivers to make extensive changes to a Unix
operating system for this specialized application. In this position, you
will be helping drive requirements for hardware interfaces and
substantially influence the overall driver architecture and execution
direction. You will be working on drivers, major kernel changes,
exception and interrupt handlers, firmware, encryption services, thermal
and power management, performance analysis, advanced MP thread
scheduling, unique page fault handling, and many others.

 


Qualifications

You must possess at least a Master's degree in Computer Science or
Computer Engineering. A Ph.D. degree or work experience is preferred.
Additional qualifications include: 
- Knowledge of operating system internals and theory of operation 
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looks like success

2008-02-28 Thread B . Cook

Hello all,

make delete-old (took a long time to do by hand)
and make delete-old-libs (went rather quickly)

but bash needed to be rebuilt while things were still running.. (quick  
try to login remotely showed that libcurses had changed.. )


/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libncurses.so.6 not found,  
required by -bash


and libc, libm, libthr, libcrypt, libcrypto.. etc..

libchk (sysutils/libchk) showed almost every port has issues.. ;)

sudo, daemontools, exim, lighttpd, vim.. etc..

so I will have to rebuild everything..

just wanted to share my .02 in case someone else does this as well..

Thanks FreeBSD Team for another successful Release.


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Re: Disk Geometry

2008-02-28 Thread ras bsd
On 28/02/2008, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:48:37AM +0100, ras bsd wrote:

   Hello list, this is my first post here.
  
   My problem is:
  
   I've installed the OS in my laptop in this order, Win XP and Debian
   GNU/Linux. I'm trying to dive into the freebsd world from many years
   in GNU/Linux. When i start the installation, when i have to enter in
   the disk partition section an error appears saying that the disk
   geometry is not valid and, anyway, I can not see the free disk space
   that i left free after the other OS. My scope is keep working the
   three OS.
   How can i know the correct disk geometry? What am i doing wrong?


 Well, I don't know why it does not see the free space unless you
  are looking in the wrong step.   There is often confusion by new
  users who come from the MS world because FreeBSD uses the term 'slice'
  and MS uses the term 'primary partition' to refer to the same thing.
  Due to ancient conventions in Bios and etc, there can be up to 4 slices
  (or primary partitions) on any physical disk.

  Lunix has its own notion of extended partition as well.  Don't try
  to use that for FreeBSD.

  FreeBSD must be installed/built in a free slice (primary partition by
  MS vocabulary).   It cannot be put in some extended partition space.

  It is possible that you have already used up the 4 slices if the laptop
  manufacturer put a diagnostic utility slice on the drive.  That is
  normally hidden from MS, but will show up to FreeBSD.  If that is true,
  and you have used up the number of slices, then FreeBSD will not allow
  you to add any.  You will need to use a tool such as 'gparted'  or
  Partition Magic to shuffle things around and maybe squeeze the other
  slices and even nuke one.

  Then FreeBSD uses the term 'partition' to refer to the subdivisions
  of a slice.  MS has some things called extended partitions which are
  not the same thing at all.

  Anyway, the point where you first need to see the free space is in
  the step dealing with the slices which is done with fdisk(8).

  As for the disk geometry issue, it normally does not matter.  That
  is the BIOS complaining.   You want to just let it go ahead and
  build things and try to ignore that error message.   Once it gets
  past loading the boot sector from a slice, FreeBSD no longer used
  the BIOS.   It handles everything itself.

  There are exceptions to this response, but go ahead (once you get the
  free space issue figured out) and try it and see if it works.  It
  won't hurt anything and if it works, you're home free.  If it doesn't
  then you have some more exploring to do.I am not quite sure what
  because although I have frequently seen that message - almost all
  the time, I have never had it not work to just go ahead and slice,
  partition and build and ignore the message.  That is with both IDE(SATA)
  and SCSI(SAS).

  So, your real problem is finding that elusive free slice space or
  freeing up a slice number to use for it.

  Good luck,

  jerry


  
   Mi laptop is Intel Core2 Duo and the Hard Disk is SATA 200 Gb Toshiba
   MK2035GSS-(S1).
  
   Thank you.

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Thank you very much Jerry.

It was the problem, I had the free space in a extended partition made
of ext3fs Linux. The solution was move the space and leave that
partition totally unalocated. After that everything was ok with the
installation. I'm on it.

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Re: Disk Geometry

2008-02-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 09:30:19PM +0100, ras bsd wrote:

 On 28/02/2008, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:48:37AM +0100, ras bsd wrote:
 
Hello list, this is my first post here.
   
My problem is:
   
I've installed the OS in my laptop in this order, Win XP and Debian
GNU/Linux. I'm trying to dive into the freebsd world from many years
in GNU/Linux. When i start the installation, when i have to enter in
the disk partition section an error appears saying that the disk
geometry is not valid and, anyway, I can not see the free disk space
that i left free after the other OS. My scope is keep working the
three OS.
How can i know the correct disk geometry? What am i doing wrong?
 
 
  Well, I don't know why it does not see the free space unless you
   are looking in the wrong step.   There is often confusion by new
   users who come from the MS world because FreeBSD uses the term 'slice'
   and MS uses the term 'primary partition' to refer to the same thing.
   Due to ancient conventions in Bios and etc, there can be up to 4 slices
   (or primary partitions) on any physical disk.
 
   Lunix has its own notion of extended partition as well.  Don't try
   to use that for FreeBSD.
 
   FreeBSD must be installed/built in a free slice (primary partition by
   MS vocabulary).   It cannot be put in some extended partition space.
 
   It is possible that you have already used up the 4 slices if the laptop
   manufacturer put a diagnostic utility slice on the drive.  That is
   normally hidden from MS, but will show up to FreeBSD.  If that is true,
   and you have used up the number of slices, then FreeBSD will not allow
   you to add any.  You will need to use a tool such as 'gparted'  or
   Partition Magic to shuffle things around and maybe squeeze the other
   slices and even nuke one.
 
   Then FreeBSD uses the term 'partition' to refer to the subdivisions
   of a slice.  MS has some things called extended partitions which are
   not the same thing at all.
 
   Anyway, the point where you first need to see the free space is in
   the step dealing with the slices which is done with fdisk(8).
 
   As for the disk geometry issue, it normally does not matter.  That
   is the BIOS complaining.   You want to just let it go ahead and
   build things and try to ignore that error message.   Once it gets
   past loading the boot sector from a slice, FreeBSD no longer used
   the BIOS.   It handles everything itself.
 
   There are exceptions to this response, but go ahead (once you get the
   free space issue figured out) and try it and see if it works.  It
   won't hurt anything and if it works, you're home free.  If it doesn't
   then you have some more exploring to do.I am not quite sure what
   because although I have frequently seen that message - almost all
   the time, I have never had it not work to just go ahead and slice,
   partition and build and ignore the message.  That is with both IDE(SATA)
   and SCSI(SAS).
 
   So, your real problem is finding that elusive free slice space or
   freeing up a slice number to use for it.
 
   Good luck,
 
   jerry
 
Mi laptop is Intel Core2 Duo and the Hard Disk is SATA 200 Gb Toshiba
MK2035GSS-(S1).
   
Thank you.
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 Thank you very much Jerry.
 
 It was the problem, I had the free space in a extended partition made
 of ext3fs Linux. The solution was move the space and leave that
 partition totally unalocated. After that everything was ok with the
 installation. I'm on it.
 
 Thank you.

Hey, I got to get one once in a while.
Glad it is working.   FreeBSD is a good one.

jerry

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Re: Configuring a HP Laserjet 1018 USB printer on KDE

2008-02-28 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:24:04 -0700 Predrag Punosevac 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



User Robert Falanga wrote:

First  am new using freebsd and would like help getting the printer
configured. After installing and staarting CUPS. When I go to SETTINGS 
Peripherals  printers I get:


That is not the way to configure printer on vanilla  FreeBSD. If you want to
use something like that
install PC-BSD or DesktopBSD.



Well, I beg to differ with you.  That's one way to do it.  Yours is another.


To install the printer  do the  following
1. Alter permission on the device nodes  chmod  0660  /dev/ulpt0

2. chgrp cupsd /dev/ulpt0

3. Add yourself to cupsd group by editing file /etc/groups



I didn't have to do any of this.


4. Move the commands of the native lpd printing system so that you can use
CUPS commands
mv /usr/bin/lp  /usr/bin/lp.bak
mv /usr/bin/lpr /usr/bin/lpr.bak
mv /usr/bin/lpq /usr/bin/lpq.bak
mv /usr/bin/lprm  /usr/bin/lprm.bak



This is good advice, *if* the cups install has not already overwritten the base 
for you.

.if defined(CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE)
   if test -e /usr/bin/lp; then ${CHMOD} -h 0 /usr/bin/lp; fi
   if test -e /usr/bin/lpq; then ${CHMOD} -h 0 /usr/bin/lpq; fi
   if test -e /usr/bin/lpr; then ${CHMOD} -h 0 /usr/bin/lpr; fi
   if test -e /usr/bin/lprm; then ${CHMOD} -h 0 /usr/bin/lprm; fi
   if test -e /usr/sbin/lpc; then ${CHMOD} -h 0 /usr/sbin/lpc; fi
.endif

# ls -lsa /usr/bin/lp*
4 -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel2590 Feb 21 12:59 /usr/bin/lp
26 -r-Sr-Sr--  1 root  daemon  25876 Feb 21 12:59 /usr/bin/lpq
30 -r-Sr-Sr--  1 root  daemon  29368 Feb 21 12:59 /usr/bin/lpr
26 -r-Sr-Sr--  1 root  daemon  24600 Feb 21 12:59 /usr/bin/lprm



4. Restart cupsd for instance by adding cupsd_enable=YES into your
/etc/rc.conf at the same time
disable lpd daemon by adding lpd_enable=NO



Also good advice.


5. Reboot

6. Point the web-browser to http://localhost:631 to add the printer



Unfortunately, this didn't work for me.  I got the source code for the page 
displayed in my browser.  If I added a ? to the end (http://localhost:631/?), 
then the page was displayed.



NOTE:

1. Your printer is using foo2zjs reversed engineered driver which you must
compile from ports. People
have reported mixed results with  the driver! You have to compile the driver
before you start adding the printer.



Seems to me, for HP printers, the hpijs driver is the right choice.  print/hpijs


2. You might need to disable your firewall or at least port 631 which is used
by Internet Printing Protocol (IPP)
which is in turned used by CUPS.



Only if you want to be a print server.  If you're just printing from a 
workstation, you don't need to worry about incoming traffic on 631.



Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager:
Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly
installed and running. Error: localhost: read failed (14).


This sounds like he didn't put cupsd_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf.


If I use LPR/LPRng things seem to be going well until I get to the screen
asking for URI:   I have no clue as to what it is asking for.



You might have to uninstall and reinstall cups.  I did.  The first time didn't 
work for some reason.


I used KDE's control center to set up the printer as well as the printer 
manager.  Everything worked fine after the initial failure and the subsequent 
reinstall.


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Re: FreeBSD 6.2-REL, system lockup, recovers when keyboard pressed

2008-02-28 Thread Dale Shaw
Sorry all, I typo'd -- the system is 6.2-REL, not 6.0-REL.

Does that make the answer any clearer? (maybe it's fresher in people's minds?)

Is confidence high that an update to 6.2-STABLE would sort this out?
(I'd really love a bug fix reference).

cheers,
Dale

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dale Shaw wrote:
   Hi all,
  
[...]
   I have a vanilla 6.2-RELEASE system running a bunch of network
   management type tools like RANCID, nfcapd, cacti and so on.
  
   After a few days of normal operation, the system (locked away in a
   data centre) falls off the network. Can't SSH to it, can't ping it. No
   ARP -- gone! I have no OOB access to this machine (it's a test
   box/play pen).

  I have a vague memory of something like this but cannot point to a
  specific commit that resolved it.

  Kris
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RE: FreeBSD 6.2-REL, system lockup, recovers when keyboard pressed

2008-02-28 Thread Sean Cavanaugh
You look at upgrading to 6.3-REL or 7.0-REL?
 
-Sean



 Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:47:18 +1100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.2-REL, 
 system lockup, recovers when keyboard pressed  Sorry all, I typo'd -- the 
 system is 6.2-REL, not 6.0-REL.  Does that make the answer any clearer? 
 (maybe it's fresher in people's minds?)  Is confidence high that an update 
 to 6.2-STABLE would sort this out? (I'd really love a bug fix reference).  
 cheers, Dale  On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] wrote:   Dale Shaw wrote:   Hi all,   [...]   I 
 have a vanilla 6.2-RELEASE system running a bunch of network   management 
 type tools like RANCID, nfcapd, cacti and so on. After a few days 
 of normal operation, the system (locked away in a   data centre) falls off 
 the network. Can't SSH to it, can't ping it. No   ARP -- gone! I have no 
 OOB access to this machine (it's a test   box/play pen).   I have a 
 vague memory of something like this but cannot point to a  specific commit 
 that resolved it.   Kris 
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p5-Mail-Tools-2.02 Seems To Break MailScanner

2008-02-28 Thread Tim Daneliuk

Has anyone else run into a problem with MailScanner failing to
start up properly after p5-Mail-Tools gets upgraded to Version 2.02 ?

I forced the port to go back to p5-Mail-Tools Version 1.77 and all is
well.

'Just wondering if this should be submitted as a PR to the MailScanner
maintainers/authors ...
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Re: FreeBSD 6.2-REL, system lockup, recovers when keyboard pressed

2008-02-28 Thread Dale Shaw
Hi Sean,

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Sean Cavanaugh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You look at upgrading to 6.3-REL or 7.0-REL?

Well, I could, but that's a sledgehammer approach and while likely to
work, in the absence of a bug report/fix (I'm not saying there isn't
one), it is not guaranteed to work. For example, it might be freezing
up because of something I can control with configuration (loader.conf
stuff). I'll have to stop the processes for a while and see if I can
reproduce the behaviour while the system is essentially idle.

I'm certainly willing to upgrade but it would be good to go into that
process with more confidence of success.

cheers,
Dale
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Re: Recommended jet printer

2008-02-28 Thread Chuck Robey
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Ghirai wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 Can anyone recommend a jet color
 printer that works with CUPS on FreeBSD,
 somewhere in the low - mid range.
 

Man, nearly every printer being sold is *SOMEBODY's* favorite, so you
really, really should have noted what's important. I mean important TO YOU,
in a printer, then you might have eogtten other than everyone's favorite.

I'll tell you mine, but honestly, without knowing what you like best in
printers, it's a very nearly worthless datum.

I like the HP 7130.  HP doesn't sell it anymore, but there's quite a active
market for them on ebay, and you can get good prices for them, so good that
you could afford to buy 2 and keep one for hot spares.  It's what HP calls
their AIO or All In One printer, which means it prints, scans, copies,
faxes, and shines your shoes.  It has very nice paper handling, so it not
only does very good 2 sided printing/copying, it also automatically will
convert single sided copies to doouble-sided, without your needing to even
touch the copies as it does it's work, with automatic input feeding,
flipping, along with output feeding/flipping. It also does it all in color,
and p[retty dense at that.

It's not a completely perfect printer, just my own favorite, and the fact
that it's maintaining THAT popular a secondary market is a pretty good
recommendation.  I bought one for my son, it's that good.

There's a newer version, the 7310, it's not as good as the original 7130,
but it's a nice printer, nevertheless, but it's too darn bad HP had to
change what seems to me to be nearly a perfect product.

 Thanks.

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Which installation iso disc to download?

2008-02-28 Thread Zeeshan Ahmad
Hello!

I want to know which installation iso image i need to download?

File: 7.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso
File: 7.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso
File: 7.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc2.iso
File: 7.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc3.iso

Which disc i should download from above list so that i install freebsd on my
pc.

Zeeshan
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Re: FreeBSD 7.0 and VMware tools (was Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools)

2008-02-28 Thread Sean Cavanaugh
which version of the guest tool should I be installing for VMWare Server 
1.0.4?

guestd5 and guestd6 both core dump.

-Sean

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Barry Byrne wrote:
I've had no problem installing the tools via the ports on 7.0 release on 
ESX

server 3.0.1.


...


cd /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6/
make clean install

reboot.


I was thinking about the ports. How does the ports version compare to the 
official coming with the VMware?


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Re: FreeBSD 7.0 and VMware tools (was Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools)

2008-02-28 Thread John Nielsen
On Thursday 28 February 2008 09:48:43 pm Sean Cavanaugh wrote:
 which version of the guest tool should I be installing for VMWare
 Server 1.0.4?
 guestd5 and guestd6 both core dump.

I haven't actually tried to use any version from the ports recently, 
opting instead to manually use the tarball on the CD that gets inserted 
when you select the Install VMware Tools option in the host.

JN

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  Barry Byrne wrote:
  I've had no problem installing the tools via the ports on 7.0
  release on ESX
  server 3.0.1.
 
  ...
 
  cd /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6/
  make clean install
 
  reboot.
 
  I was thinking about the ports. How does the ports version compare to
  the official coming with the VMware?
 
  Iv
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Re: Which installation iso disc to download?

2008-02-28 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 06:12:22AM +0500, Zeeshan Ahmad wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I want to know which installation iso image i need to download?
 
 File: 7.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso

Disc 1 is enough. The rest contain packages and additional goodies.
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Re: FreeBSD 7.0 and VMware tools (was Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMwaretools)

2008-02-28 Thread Sean Cavanaugh
scratch that, guestd6 worked fine after make clearing it. bad download I 
guess.


-Sean

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which version of the guest tool should I be installing for VMWare Server 
1.0.4?

guestd5 and guestd6 both core dump.

-Sean

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Barry Byrne wrote:
I've had no problem installing the tools via the ports on 7.0 release on 
ESX

server 3.0.1.


...


cd /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6/
make clean install

reboot.


I was thinking about the ports. How does the ports version compare to the 
official coming with the VMware?


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python and Guile-gtk... [a bit OT]

2008-02-28 Thread Gary Kline
Guys,

Thanks to the bunch of you  who steered me toward python; it's 
a really nice OO scripting language, and I'm picking it up 
pretty rapidly.  Apppended is a Tkinteri [GUI] file that python
doesn't like.  Any ideas why?  I did install this port.

I'd like help getting python to read from a file and display a 
steram of text on a textcanvas. I'll fiure out the buttons later.  
I'd appreciate any insights about regular gtk and guile-gtk.  Or 
whichever GUI libraries have the best python interface.

thanks muchly,

gary

Apended simpleTextArea.py

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http://jottings.thought.org   http://transfinite.thought.org





 from Tkinter import *
 
 root = Tk()
 root.title('Text')
 text = Text(root, height=26, width=50)
 scroll = Scrollbar(root, command=text.yview)
 
 text.configure(yscrollcommand=scroll.set)
 text.tag_configure('bold_italics', font=('Verdana', 12, 'bold', 'italic'))
 text.tag_configure('big', font=('Verdana', 24, 'bold'))
 text.tag_configure('color', foreground='blue', font=('Tempus Sans ITC', 14))
 text.tag_configure('groove', relief=GROOVE, borderwidth=2)

 text.tag_bind('bite', '1', lambda e, t=text: t.insert(END, Text))
 
 text.pack(side=LEFT)
 scroll.pack(side=RIGHT, fill=Y)
 root.mainloop()
 


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Re: Which installation iso disc to download?

2008-02-28 Thread Rudy

Zeeshan Ahmad wrote:

Hello!

I want to know which installation iso image i need to download?


Download this one:

File: 7.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso



Best of luck!

Rudy
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Re: python and Guile-gtk... [a bit OT]

2008-02-28 Thread Vinny

Gary Kline wrote:
[snip]



	I'd like help getting python to read from a file and display a 
	steram of text on a textcanvas. I'll fiure out the buttons later.  
	I'd appreciate any insights about regular gtk and guile-gtk.  Or 
	whichever GUI libraries have the best python interface.


Hi Gary,

I'm a big fan of wxPython, i.e. wxWidgets for python.  Way
cool and works on Windows as well (very cross-platform).

Vinny
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Re: xmodmap not working from xinitrc

2008-02-28 Thread Chris Hill

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Jona Joachim wrote:

My .xinitrc has an xmodmap tweak to switch the Ctrl and Caps keys. For 
some reason these changes are not applied when I start X, Ctrl is 
still Ctrl and Caps is still Caps. However I have to run xmodmap twice 
when X has started to actually make it work. It seems like the changes 
were applied but somehow not used by X, when I rerun xmodmap it seems 
like it switches the keys back to their original states and when I 
then run it again it finally works.


Here's my .xinitrc:


[snip]

I asked essentially the same question four months ago - see 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-October/160815.html 
- and received a couple of me too responses. Now I get to say me too 
as well. Still no fix AFAIK.


Anyone?

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RE: hardware problem

2008-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of D G Teed
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:54 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: DAve; FreeBSD Questions
 Subject: Re: hardware problem
 
 
 On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of D G Teed
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:22 AM
To: DAve
Cc: FreeBSD Questions
Subject: Re: hardware problem
   
   
Every system I've seen with his description of the problem, where
the power supply can't even run it's own fan, is having a 
 power supply
problem.  Power supplies are very often low quality these 
 days and can't
handle the stresses of typical electrical grid fluctuations.
 
   My experience has not been that the power supplies can't handle the
   electrical grid.
 
   What I've mostly seen is that the power supply FANS get dust in them,
   the fans slow down or stop, airflow through the supply drops, and
   then the supply overheats.  Once it overheats, the supply will never
   be reliable again and must be thrown out.
 
 I've been able to routinely clean out the dust with canned air, and
 they still die more frequently than say motherboards.  Even quality
 brands like Antec.  I often replace the fan if it is showing signs
 of noise from bearing getting burned out.  I'm speaking mainly
 of home and small office PCs.  This is something that won't
 happen as much in a server room since the air is cleaner, but
 I'd guess the O.P. wasn't in that environment since he is wasting
 3 days before trying another power supply.
 
 Power supplies do have a limit of life related to the quality
 of your electricity 

Not the good ones.  Seriously.

I run a NOC that has a 50kva natural gas fired generator.  Every Tue.
the generator is tested for 1/2 hour (basically we put the entire
NOC on generator power for 1/2 hour)  There is an automatic
transfer switch that switches the entire NOC, under load, including
the HVAC unit, onto generator power for 1/2 hour then switches it
back to mains power.  There is NO feedback circuit that syncs
the sinewave from the generator with mains power.  As you can
imagine the switch is tremendously disruptive.  All of the UPSs
in the place squawk and switch into UPS power for a couple minutes.
All of the UPSes in the place are cut-in types.

So far we have only had 1 system lose power supplies on a
regular basis, and this was a brand new, very expensive, HP
server.  (on UPSes of course) HP's replaced at least 8 power
supplies in it under warranty.

None of the others, including some of the most motley customer-owned
clone equipment you might imagine, have suffered power supply failure.

The HVAC unit of course heavily filters the air so there is
no dust so to speak.  I can pull the cover off 3 year old
servers and the interior is as pristine as when they are new.
And we keep the temp around 68 degrees.

Please keep in mind most computer power supples nowadays
are auto-switching and will run on anything from 110-220v.

It is NOT dirty power that does them in.  It is dust.  And
heat, as you said.  Overloading a supply will kill it also
- very few (retail) power supplies on the market will run
close to their rated power output for any length of time.

Today, the biggest problem I see is people demanding these
minitower systems, getting these tiny small cases and
stuffing them full of hard and optical drives.  There's 
dead air spaces throughout the layout, and small, low-volume
quiet fans.

Hard drives also suffer as a result of this.  A disk with
good cooling can last many years.  But few computers other
than server gear provide it to the drive bays.

I can recall the bad
 electrolyte scandle with several motherboard brands 5 years ago.
 The explanation of the shortened capacitor lifespan due to the
 electrolyte missing an ingredient was a bit of an education
 into what capacitors do.  They do have a limited lifespan
 related to heat and the number of hours they are exposed to a high
 ripple current.
 
 Here is an excellent wikipedia entry on capacitor plague
 which will explain it in layman's terms.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague
 
 If you have not read about this before, it may be an eye opener.
 

I know all about that.  I also own several TV sets that date from
late, late 60's early 70's and still work.  Electrolytic capacitors
have been around a long, long time.  They had them during the tube
days, and tube gear ran very hot.  Like anything, they have a
lifespan, but it is in the multiple decades, and little dependent
on ripple current or heat.  The issue with the self-corroding
capacitors was corrected and while the equipment (like for
example, Apple eMacs of 1Ghz CPU) that had those suffered, it
isn't indicative of normal electrolytic capacitor lifespan.

The most heat-sensitive parts are the semiconductors, the

RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:50 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients
 
 
  I cut some of the directory listing so as not to consume
  a lot of space - the spaces are different because some of
  the listing had files in it that were larger, and the
  program merely added the spaces so the columns would
  line up.  (you will note the total at the bottom didn't
  add up)
 
  Do you have the total client list of clients that
  are having problems?
 
 
 unix mozilla, windoze internet exploder.
 

I really hate to tell you this but I just tested this with
one of my 6.3-RELEASE servers, and with IE6, and I have no
problem displaying files.

I don't have the other clients loaded (at least not here)
I'll see if I can test them tomorrow.

The URL I used in IE was:

ftp://tedm:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(obviously you would substitute the appropriate user ID,
password and server)

This was the stock FTP server in 6.3-release

Unless I can duplicate the problem I can't help any
further.

Ted
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7.0 Release for Alpha

2008-02-28 Thread Moises Castellanos
 I try to download the 7.0 Release for Alpha Platform, but 550 no such
directory
 Y search in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ and there is
no 7.0-RELEASE
 Anyone know why this is happening ???
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RE: Freebsd quota sendmail

2008-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Derek Ragona
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:49 AM
 To: Ofloo; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Freebsd quota  sendmail


 At 12:29 PM 2/27/2008, Ofloo wrote:

 I'm putting this under freebsd because there is no forum for
 sendmail, and it
 does concern freebsd as well.
 
 My problem is this, when i set quota in /var/mail directory to
 each user and
 this user creates a cronjob, that doesn't forward all data to
 /dev/null, and
 keeps on generating mail, ..
 
 Well after a while the mail file reaches it's quota and sendmail isn't
 allowed to write to that file anymore, so it will start and fill
 the mailq,
 ..
 
 The point is after a while the whole system will just crash what can I do
 about it, sorry for rambling.

 Why are you setting these quotas on /var/mail.  These days with disk so
 cheap, why bother?

It depends on how he has his server setup.

Suppose he had a 250-employee company where for reasons of
data security (remember the courts have ruled e-mail is
company documentation and subject to document retention
laws) everyone is running IMAP to the mailserver and
most of the employees are very lazy about deleting old
mail, or downloading attachments they get to local
systems (or better yet, NOT using the e-mail system
as a file-sharing network, good luck with that) and he
has a 200GB hard disk.  I can see the desire to limit people
to 500-700MB per mailbox.

The other thing is with a server, the disk space is usually
a lot more expensive because it's raided or mirrored, it's
high-speed drives, etc.

Ted

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Re Mac Emulation / Centra Software

2008-02-28 Thread John.Andrwartha
To clarify, 
Centra is a Windows based conferencing software package that uses a Virtual 
Java machine (client} to provide VoIP, Video, White board and tools.
It is used in my context as a teaching medium.  The school my children attend 
( Distance Education Tasmania) use it extensively for class and face to face 
learning for there remote and distance students.

There are 2 versions of the client software Win32 and Mac.
I have tried running the Win32 under Wine but the Java VM bombs out as there 
are specific WinFunctions Unix JRE cant handle.

Using the Mac OS client Under Free BSD 6.2S may be the answer.  But how?

It appears that the jre is the issue.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

John
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RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sam Leffler
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:54 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kris Kennaway; Oliver Herold;
 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7


 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway
  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM
  To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org;
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7
 
 
  Oliver Herold wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I saw this bind benchmarks just some minutes ago,
 
  http://new.isc.org/proj/dnsperf/OStest.html
 
  is this true for FreeBSD 7 (current state: RELENG_7/7.0R) too? Or is
  this something verified only for the state of development
 back in August
  2007?
 
  I have been trying to replicate this.  ISC have kindly given me access
  to their test data but I am seeing Linux performing much slower than
  FreeBSD with the same ISC workload.
 
 
 
  Kris,
 
Every couple years we go through this with ISC.  They come out with
  a new version of BIND then claim that nothing other than Linux can
  run it well.  I've seen this nonsense before and it's tiresome.
 
  Incidentally, the query tool they used, queryperf, has been changed
  to dnsperf.  Someone needs to look at that port -
 /usr/ports/dns/dnsperf -
  as it has a build depend of bind9 - well bind 9.3.4 is part of
 6.3-RELEASE
  and I was rather irked when I ran the dnsperf port maker and the
  maker stupidly began the process of downloading and building the
  same version of BIND that I was already running on my server.
 
 
  * I am trying to understand what is different about the ISC
  configuration but have not yet found the cause.
 
 
  It's called Anti-FreeBSD bias.  You won't find anything.
 
 
  e.g. NSD
  (ports/dns/nsd) is a much faster and more scalable DNS server than BIND
  (because it is better optimized for the smaller set of features it
  supports).
 
 
 
  When you make remarks like that it's no wonder ISC is in the business
  of slamming FreeBSD.  People used to make the same claims about djbdns
  but I noticed over the last few years they don't seem to be doing
  that anymore.
 
  If nsd is so much better than yank bind out of the base FreeBSD and
  replace it with nsd.  Of course that will make more work for me
  when I regen our nameservers here since nsd will be the first thing
  on the rm list.
 

 Please save your rhetoric for some other forum.  The ISC folks have been
 working with us to understand what's going on.

Did anyone try disabling the onboard NIC and put in an Intel
Pro/1000 in the PCI express slot in the server and retest with
both Linux and FreeBSD?  As I run Proliants for a living,
this stuck out to me like a sore thumb.  The onboard NIC
in the systems they used for the testbed is just shit.  Hell,
just about anything Broadcom makes is shit.  They even managed
to screw up the 3c905 ASIC when 3com switched to using them
as the supplier (from Lucent)( - I've watched those card versions
panic Linux systems and drop massive packets in FreeBSD,
when the Lucent-made chipped cards worked fine.

 I'm not aware of any
 anit-FreeBSD slams going on; mostly uninformed comments.


It's customary in the industry before publishing rather unflattering
results to call in the team in charge of the unflattering
product and give them a chance to verify that the tester
really knew what they were doing.

FreeBSD has got slammed a number of times in the past by
testers who didn't do this.  In fact as I recall the impetus
for fixing the
extended greater than 16MB memory test was due to a
slam in a trade rag from a tester who didn't bother
recompiling the FreeBSD kernel to recognize the complete
amount of ram in the server, and running it up against Linux.

Maybe I am wrong and the ISC team did in fact call you guys
in before publishing the results - but the wording of
the entire site (not just the test results) indicated
they did their testing and informed FreeBSD after the fact.
after publishing.  Not nice.

Ted

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Re: 7.0 Release for Alpha

2008-02-28 Thread Olivier Mueller


Le 29 févr. 08 à 06:21, Moises Castellanos a écrit :

I try to download the 7.0 Release for Alpha Platform, but 550 no such
directory
Y search in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ and  
there is

no 7.0-RELEASE
Anyone know why this is happening ???


Compare:
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is now available for the amd64, i386, ia64, pc98,  
and powerpc architectures. The version for the sparc64 architecture  
will become available in a few days. Some of the package builds are  
still in progress.

( http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html )

with:
FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE is now available for the alpha, amd64, i386,  
pc98, and sparc64 architectures.

( http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.3R/announce.html )

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-alpha/2006-May/003011.html
Short version: Alpha support is being retired in 7.0

regards  HTH,
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RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar


This was the stock FTP server in 6.3-release

Unless I can duplicate the problem I can't help any
further.

Ted



so any clue what can i have wrong as our setup is (in theory) identical?

does LANG=pl influence ftpd anyhow? (i have it in login.conf)
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RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:57 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7


  * I am trying to understand what is different about the ISC
  configuration but have not yet found the cause.
 
  It's called Anti-FreeBSD bias.  You won't find anything.

 This is false, but I didnt expect any better from you.

 ISC widely rely on FreeBSD internally, and contribute *lots* of
 resources to the FreeBSD project including hosting one half of
 ftp.freebsd.org and employing several FreeBSD developers.


So what?  Microsoft has used FreeBSD in the past for it's
DNS servers, and as far as I know still uses Linux or BSD for
the nameservers for their download sites (or rather, the
outsourcer they use doesen't use Windows for it's DNS) and
they have never had anything good to say about FreeBSD -
with the exception of the version 1 port of C# to it (which
they dropped in verison 2)  When Microsoft took over
Hotmail, Hotmail was completely running on FreeBSD and
several leaked internal documents showed many internal
Microsoft people were highly impressed by FreeBSD when
they got into it, but that didn't stop Microsoft from
publically castigating FreeBSD in it's online how we
migrated Hotmail to the (superior) Windows platform
whitepapers.

Apple's dependence on FreeBSD is legendary - yet Steve
Jobs has several times at MacWorld referred to Darwin as
based on Linux and that it's Linux-like, and similar to Linux,
all of which are baldfaced lies.  (At least, according
to the Apple website which credits FreeBSD here:
http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html)

The point here is there are MANY organizations that
publically beat the Linux bandwagon drum yet privately
don't use Linux as much as they use FreeBSD internally

This study of theirs on http://new.isc.org/proj/dnsperf/
is the proof of the pudding.  I also noticed according to
the testbed they are using HP Proliant DL140 G3 servers -
those servers use El-crappy Broadcom 5722 ethernet chips on
their motherboard, and the FreeBSD driver for these
chips is iffy - FreeBSD 6.1 in fact paniced when using
this chip family, as I documented in a PR for an HP Proliant
server.  And, HP supports and supplies the RedHat Linux
driver for this chipset for this server, and there's no
question that Gentoo uses the same driver.  I can
hardly think of a more unfair testbed that is more tilted
towards Linux than these servers.

But that's OK you continue rooting around in the FreeBSD 7
kernel all you want, don't bother actually looking at the
network hardware, we all know it doesen't matter.NOT!

Consider also that ISC is 501(c)(3)  The money they
are spending on employing FreeBSD developers and hosting
ftp.freebsd.org isn't theirs.  It's donated to them
specifically to be used for these purposes.

  e.g. NSD
  (ports/dns/nsd) is a much faster and more scalable DNS server than BIND
  (because it is better optimized for the smaller set of features it
  supports).
 
 
  When you make remarks like that it's no wonder ISC is in the business
  of slamming FreeBSD.  People used to make the same claims about djbdns
  but I noticed over the last few years they don't seem to be doing
  that anymore.

 What, you mean factual statements?  NSD *is* faster, it *is* more
 scalable, it *does* support fewer features than BIND, and it *is* more
 optimized for those features (e.g. it tries to precompute DNS responses,
 which it can do because it doesn't support dynamic updates, etc).  The
 ISC devels acknowledge this.  BIND has architectural constraints from
 being a more complete DNS server solution.


You could have just as easily said a more feature-lacking,
stripped-down nameserver like nsd is faster.  That's factual
too.  Your even doing it now; architectural constraints?
Look at the language the ISC uses to describe it's server:
http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/about/press/?pr=2007032700
I see fastest version yet not slower than other nameservers

Granted, neither group is making money on the nameserver
software, it's not like money is at stake here.  But, pride
is.

Ted

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