Re: Uname borked on ??-Release...

2008-03-05 Thread Joshua Isom


On Mar 4, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote:


Kevin Kinsey wrote:

Kris Kennaway wrote:

Kevin Kinsey wrote:

What about strings /boot/kernel/kernel | grep 6.2-RELEASE?

Kris

As I would expect, it returns nothing at all.


Your problem makes no sense then :)  The kern.osrelease returns a 
string compiled into the kernel (see conf/newvers.sh), so if it 
returns 6.2-RELEASE then that string must be present.


Kris


So, have you checked to make sure your uname is accurate and not just 
an echoing shell script of sorts?  You never know, maybe someone 
hijacked your uname before you upgraded and the hijacked version wasn't 
written properly(which is odd since it's BSD licensed, where if it were 
GPL they'd have to release the code for their evil uname so can't use a 
GPL version).


You could try greping over the entire filesystem for 6.2-RELEASE to 
find out where it could be coming from.  Depending on the setup of your 
system, you could try zeroing all the spare blocks(I imagine `dd 
if=/dev/zero of=zero` would do the trick) and then seeing if the 
string's from some really hidden file.


So many ways to have fun, but I don't want to be in your shoes.

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Re: Deb archives

2008-03-05 Thread Chris
On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:54:50 -0500
E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:46:03 +
 Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Wednesday 05 March 2008 02:09:25 E. J. Cerejo wrote:
   Is there a way to unpack a deb package in FreeBSD?  I don't see
   anything in the ports to do it!
  
  
  I don't know if this helps, but deb packages are really ar achives.
 
 I found it, it's called dpkg, thanks anyway.

Yes you did! Interesting enough thought, I would like to see how one
might config apt-get to be used w/FreeBSD and the packages (I assume?).


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Re: How to start Gnome2-lite

2008-03-05 Thread Outback Dingo
vi `/.xinitrc

paste

exec gnome-session

then :wq

save the file, and startx


On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 05/03/2008, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:41:47PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
   I installed Gnome2-lite as a package. I then inserted the following
 line
  
   gnome_enable=YES
  
   in rc.conf
  
   and also inserted the line
  
   exec gnome-session
  
   in the xinitrc file. | type startx after this, but gnome desktop
   doesnt load up. Instead the usual x windows screen loads up.
 
  The gnome-session line needs to be in ${HOME}/.xinitrc, which also
  needs to have permissions 700 at least.
 
  Cheers.
  --
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  --
  The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity
  -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.
 
 SO if I log in as root, which I do, then this means that file will be
 in /root/ directory? But I cant find any .xinitrc file in root
 directory? WHat do I do?
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Re: How to start Gnome2-lite

2008-03-05 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 05/03/2008, Outback Dingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 vi `/.xinitrc

 paste

 exec gnome-session

 then :wq

 save the file, and startx

is that /.xinitrc ? or in my home directory, /root/.xinitrc ?





 On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On 05/03/2008, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:41:47PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
I installed Gnome2-lite as a package. I then inserted the following
 line
   
gnome_enable=YES
   
in rc.conf
   
and also inserted the line
   
exec gnome-session
   
in the xinitrc file. | type startx after this, but gnome desktop
doesnt load up. Instead the usual x windows screen loads up.
  
   The gnome-session line needs to be in ${HOME}/.xinitrc, which also
   needs to have permissions 700 at least.
  
   Cheers.
   --
   Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 --
   The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity
   -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.
  
  SO if I log in as root, which I do, then this means that file will be
  in /root/ directory? But I cant find any .xinitrc file in root
  directory? WHat do I do?
 
 
 
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Re: How to start Gnome2-lite

2008-03-05 Thread Outback Dingo
notice i typed ~/.xinitrcnot /.xinitrc  see the ~


the ~/ means your home diretcory

ie /root if your logged in as root

and you typed

cd ~/

it would cd you into /root

if you were logged in as siraj and you typed cd ~/

it would cd you into /home/siraj ...

follow...?

so vi ~/.xinitrc





On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 05/03/2008, Outback Dingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  vi `/.xinitrc
 
  paste
 
  exec gnome-session
 
  then :wq
 
  save the file, and startx
 
 is that /.xinitrc ? or in my home directory, /root/.xinitrc ?




 
  On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
  
   On 05/03/2008, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:41:47PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
 I installed Gnome2-lite as a package. I then inserted the
 following
  line

 gnome_enable=YES

 in rc.conf

 and also inserted the line

 exec gnome-session

 in the xinitrc file. | type startx after this, but gnome desktop
 doesnt load up. Instead the usual x windows screen loads up.
   
The gnome-session line needs to be in ${HOME}/.xinitrc, which also
needs to have permissions 700 at least.
   
Cheers.
--
Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  --
The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
 capacity
-- the rest is overhead for the operating
 system.
   
   SO if I log in as root, which I do, then this means that file will be
   in /root/ directory? But I cant find any .xinitrc file in root
   directory? WHat do I do?
  
  
  
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Re: How to start Gnome2-lite

2008-03-05 Thread Chris
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:19:34 +
Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 05/03/2008, Outback Dingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  vi `/.xinitrc
 
  paste
 
  exec gnome-session
 
  then :wq
 
  save the file, and startx
 
 is that /.xinitrc ? or in my home directory, /root/.xinitrc ?

In your home dir. Unless you are using the root account as your default
(and that's just bad practice).

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Re: How to start Gnome2-lite

2008-03-05 Thread Chris
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 05:23:49 -0500
Outback Dingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 notice i typed ~/.xinitrcnot /.xinitrc  see the ~
 
 
 the ~/ means your home diretcory
 
 ie /root if your logged in as root
 
 and you typed
 
 cd ~/
 
 it would cd you into /root
 
 if you were logged in as siraj and you typed cd ~/
 
 it would cd you into /home/siraj ...
 
 follow...?
 
 so vi ~/.xinitrc

Alternatively (and assuming .xinitrc does not exist)

echo exec gnome-session  .xinitrc

If it does:

echo exec gnome-session  .xinitrc


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Re: How to start Gnome2-lite

2008-03-05 Thread Outback Dingo
and ill agree here with chris, it is an extremely bad practice to run X as
root, you should always login as a user if you need to do maintenance or
something you can always use su or sudo

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:19:34 +
 Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 05/03/2008, Outback Dingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   vi `/.xinitrc
  
   paste
  
   exec gnome-session
  
   then :wq
  
   save the file, and startx
  
  is that /.xinitrc ? or in my home directory, /root/.xinitrc ?

 In your home dir. Unless you are using the root account as your default
 (and that's just bad practice).

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Re: How to start Gnome2-lite

2008-03-05 Thread Outback Dingo
wh

echo exec gnome-session  ~/.xinitrc

sounds like potentially a new user we have no idea what directory he might
be in

silly unix tricks


On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 05:23:49 -0500
 Outback Dingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  notice i typed ~/.xinitrcnot /.xinitrc  see the ~
 
 
  the ~/ means your home diretcory
 
  ie /root if your logged in as root
 
  and you typed
 
  cd ~/
 
  it would cd you into /root
 
  if you were logged in as siraj and you typed cd ~/
 
  it would cd you into /home/siraj ...
 
  follow...?
 
  so vi ~/.xinitrc

 Alternatively (and assuming .xinitrc does not exist)

 echo exec gnome-session  .xinitrc

 If it does:

 echo exec gnome-session  .xinitrc


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Re: How to start Gnome2-lite

2008-03-05 Thread Siraj Shaikh
On 05/03/2008, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:41:47PM +, Siraj Shaikh wrote:
  I installed Gnome2-lite as a package. I then inserted the following line
 
  gnome_enable=YES
 
  in rc.conf
 
  and also inserted the line
 
  exec gnome-session
 
  in the xinitrc file. | type startx after this, but gnome desktop
  doesnt load up. Instead the usual x windows screen loads up.

 The gnome-session line needs to be in ${HOME}/.xinitrc, which also
 needs to have permissions 700 at least.

 Cheers.
 --
 Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 --
 The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity
 -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.

SO if I log in as root, which I do, then this means that file will be
in /root/ directory? But I cant find any .xinitrc file in root
directory? WHat do I do?
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Re: How to start Gnome2-lite

2008-03-05 Thread Chris
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 05:31:37 -0500
Outback Dingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 wh
 
 echo exec gnome-session  ~/.xinitrc
 
 sounds like potentially a new user we have no idea what directory he
 might be in
 
 silly unix tricks
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 05:23:49 -0500
  Outback Dingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   notice i typed ~/.xinitrcnot /.xinitrc  see the ~
  
  
   the ~/ means your home diretcory
  
   ie /root if your logged in as root
  
   and you typed
  
   cd ~/
  
   it would cd you into /root
  
   if you were logged in as siraj and you typed cd ~/
  
   it would cd you into /home/siraj ...
  
   follow...?
  
   so vi ~/.xinitrc
 
  Alternatively (and assuming .xinitrc does not exist)
 
  echo exec gnome-session  .xinitrc
 
  If it does:
 
  echo exec gnome-session  .xinitrc
 
 
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Haha! Good point - I didn't think of that!
Nice catch.


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Re: How to start Gnome2-lite

2008-03-05 Thread Siraj Shaikh
Guys

I have managed to to do what you say and now when I type in startx, it
does show me a box saying This session is running as a privileged
user and asking me to either COntinue or Quit. My mouse isnt working
at this stage and I cant press either of the buttons. Neither is tab
or space or alt c working. What to do?

Your help is much appreciated

I am running as root because this machine is not used for any other
purpose, behind a firewall, not connected to any other machine and is
only being used for testing little utilities.

On 05/03/2008, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 05:31:37 -0500
 Outback Dingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  wh
 
  echo exec gnome-session  ~/.xinitrc
 
  sounds like potentially a new user we have no idea what directory he
  might be in
 
  silly unix tricks
 
 
  On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 05:23:49 -0500
   Outback Dingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
notice i typed ~/.xinitrcnot /.xinitrc  see the ~
   
   
the ~/ means your home diretcory
   
ie /root if your logged in as root
   
and you typed
   
cd ~/
   
it would cd you into /root
   
if you were logged in as siraj and you typed cd ~/
   
it would cd you into /home/siraj ...
   
follow...?
   
so vi ~/.xinitrc
  
   Alternatively (and assuming .xinitrc does not exist)
  
   echo exec gnome-session  .xinitrc
  
   If it does:
  
   echo exec gnome-session  .xinitrc
  
  
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 Haha! Good point - I didn't think of that!
 Nice catch.


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Re: How to start Gnome2-lite

2008-03-05 Thread Chris
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:37:37 +
Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Guys
 
 I have managed to to do what you say and now when I type in startx, it
 does show me a box saying This session is running as a privileged
 user and asking me to either COntinue or Quit. My mouse isnt working
 at this stage and I cant press either of the buttons. Neither is tab
 or space or alt c working. What to do?
 
 Your help is much appreciated
 
 I am running as root because this machine is not used for any other
 purpose, behind a firewall, not connected to any other machine and is
 only being used for testing little utilities.
 

Welp - As to you running as root (you know my position) that is
absolutely your call mate.

A really quick fix (for the mouse) is call up sysinstall and go to
Configure, then Mouse. 

Choose Number 3 (Type) then config from there OR go right to Number 2
(Enable)

Once you have the rodent configed via sysinstall, that ought to plop
the needed lines in /etc/rc.conf (your mileage may vary, standard
disclaimers apply).

This is just one way of trying it - you could run the Xorg config
utils, or if you are brave, edit the Xorg conf file by hand. 

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Re: How to start Gnome2-lite

2008-03-05 Thread Siraj Shaikh
I have the usbd_enable line in rc.conf

the mouse is working on the black screen but it doesnt work when the x loads up



On 05/03/2008, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:37:37 +
 Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Guys
 
  I have managed to to do what you say and now when I type in startx, it
  does show me a box saying This session is running as a privileged
  user and asking me to either COntinue or Quit. My mouse isnt working
  at this stage and I cant press either of the buttons. Neither is tab
  or space or alt c working. What to do?
 
  Your help is much appreciated
 
  I am running as root because this machine is not used for any other
  purpose, behind a firewall, not connected to any other machine and is
  only being used for testing little utilities.
 

 Welp - As to you running as root (you know my position) that is
 absolutely your call mate.

 A really quick fix (for the mouse) is call up sysinstall and go to
 Configure, then Mouse.

 Choose Number 3 (Type) then config from there OR go right to Number 2
 (Enable)

 Once you have the rodent configed via sysinstall, that ought to plop
 the needed lines in /etc/rc.conf (your mileage may vary, standard
 disclaimers apply).

 This is just one way of trying it - you could run the Xorg config
 utils, or if you are brave, edit the Xorg conf file by hand.

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Re: How to start Gnome2-lite

2008-03-05 Thread Chris

 On 05/03/2008, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:37:37 +
  Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Guys
  
   I have managed to to do what you say and now when I type in
   startx, it does show me a box saying This session is running as
   a privileged user and asking me to either COntinue or Quit. My
   mouse isnt working at this stage and I cant press either of the
   buttons. Neither is tab or space or alt c working. What to do?
  
   Your help is much appreciated
  
   I am running as root because this machine is not used for any
   other purpose, behind a firewall, not connected to any other
   machine and is only being used for testing little utilities.
  
 
  Welp - As to you running as root (you know my position) that is
  absolutely your call mate.
 
  A really quick fix (for the mouse) is call up sysinstall and go to
  Configure, then Mouse.
 
  Choose Number 3 (Type) then config from there OR go right to Number
  2 (Enable)
 
  Once you have the rodent configed via sysinstall, that ought to plop
  the needed lines in /etc/rc.conf (your mileage may vary, standard
  disclaimers apply).
 
  This is just one way of trying it - you could run the Xorg config
  utils, or if you are brave, edit the Xorg conf file by hand.
 
  --
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  Chris
 
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On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:48:33 +
Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have the usbd_enable line in rc.conf
 
 the mouse is working on the black screen but it doesnt work when the
 x loads up

Ah good. You're off to a decent start. At this point I would have a
look at one of the 2 Xorg config apps (they escape me off hand - but
I'm sure one of the fine list folks will lend that to you).

OR - edit the Xorg conf file by hand - if you are a newb, then I
strongly suggest the Xorg conf utils (Here again, unless one of the
fine folks can paste to you what the approximate lines out to be).

Here I can't help much, my FBSD boxen are all Non-X.

Anyways, I'm out for a few hours - good luck mate.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.2+PHP+700 sites = DNS Issues?

2008-03-05 Thread Simon Street
In addition i've attempted adding:

kern.maxfilesperproc=65536
kern.ipc.somaxconn=1024
kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=2097152
kern.maxprocperuid=9000
to sysctl.conf

kern.maxproc=10240
kern.maxfiles=65536
kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768
kern.ipc.maxsockets=51200
to loader.conf

I've also disabled ipv6 in the kernel (can't remember where I saw this
suggestion)

Post this I've recompiled apache with:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] export CFLAGS=-DFD_SETSIZE=12000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] export CXX_FLAGS=-DFD_SETSIZE=12000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /scripts/easyapache (this is the cPanel script that auto
regens apache/php/addons)

I'm having a hard time believing that this issue only plagues FreeBSD
and is unfixable!

Anyone got any ideas on what else I can change?

Thanks,
Simon
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Re: How to start Gnome2-lite

2008-03-05 Thread Outback Dingo
X -configure should fix you up

X -config /root/xorg/root/xorg.conf.test

cp /root/xorg.conf.test /etc/X!!xorg.conf

startx

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  On 05/03/2008, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:37:37 +
   Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Guys
   
I have managed to to do what you say and now when I type in
startx, it does show me a box saying This session is running as
a privileged user and asking me to either COntinue or Quit. My
mouse isnt working at this stage and I cant press either of the
buttons. Neither is tab or space or alt c working. What to do?
   
Your help is much appreciated
   
I am running as root because this machine is not used for any
other purpose, behind a firewall, not connected to any other
machine and is only being used for testing little utilities.
   
  
   Welp - As to you running as root (you know my position) that is
   absolutely your call mate.
  
   A really quick fix (for the mouse) is call up sysinstall and go to
   Configure, then Mouse.
  
   Choose Number 3 (Type) then config from there OR go right to Number
   2 (Enable)
  
   Once you have the rodent configed via sysinstall, that ought to plop
   the needed lines in /etc/rc.conf (your mileage may vary, standard
   disclaimers apply).
  
   This is just one way of trying it - you could run the Xorg config
   utils, or if you are brave, edit the Xorg conf file by hand.
  
   --
   Best regards,
   Chris
  
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 On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:48:33 +
 Siraj Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have the usbd_enable line in rc.conf
 
  the mouse is working on the black screen but it doesnt work when the
  x loads up

 Ah good. You're off to a decent start. At this point I would have a
 look at one of the 2 Xorg config apps (they escape me off hand - but
 I'm sure one of the fine list folks will lend that to you).

 OR - edit the Xorg conf file by hand - if you are a newb, then I
 strongly suggest the Xorg conf utils (Here again, unless one of the
 fine folks can paste to you what the approximate lines out to be).

 Here I can't help much, my FBSD boxen are all Non-X.

 Anyways, I'm out for a few hours - good luck mate.

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Re: Lib Errors After 6.3 - 7 Update

2008-03-05 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:17:57 +
Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Umm... Using libmap.conf in this way is functionally equivalent to
 sym-linking the shlibs and is just as evil.  If an app needs libc.so.5
 then the only correct answer is to give it libc.so.5 by installing
 compat5x.

of course it is as evil if do it carelessly, but it's a more controlled
sym-linking of forms, as you can tell it that a certain symlink only applies to
one application and not all of them. probably doesn't really apply to this
example, but, from my experience, it is far better than symlinking.

 
 libmap.conf has its uses, but one of the primary reasons for having it
 -- switching between different threading implementations -- is a non-issue
 on 7.0 where you get libthr style threads as standard.  I think there
 may be one or two ports that advise you to make specific libmap.conf
 settings, but unless you've installed one of those, you really should
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Re: Printing with a laserjet 1018

2008-03-05 Thread Modulok
Did you upload the firmware to the printer?

I'm not sure if this printer is the same as mine (1020), but I think
this is a dumb printer, which requires a firware upload each time it
is power cycled. Unfortunately in my case, the FreeBSD USB driver had
to be modified in order to talk with the printer, as it was not
capable of communicating in a USB compliant manner, prior to the
firmware upload. (Genius.)

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On 3/4/08, Bob Falanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry, I am still new at unix type OS so where do I make these changes?

 Thank you,
 Bob

 On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Michael Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Bob Falanga schrieb:
   First of all, thanks to those who have helped me so far.
   I have configured the printer and everything looks OK, but when I do a
  test
   print the test page goes into the printer queue and stays there for
  ever.
   The printer doesn't even squeak. First I had to use the print driver for
  a
   laserjet 1010 as I couldn't kind a driver for the 1018. Second the
  printer
   does work under the alternate OS.
  
   Any ideas?
  
 
  HP printer using CUPS, right?
  Try using /usr/local/bin/lpr instead of /usr/bin/lpr.
  Same goes for lprm, lpq and friends.
  Make sure all your apps do.
  Maybe replace /usr/bin/lpr with /usr/local/bin/lpr.
  Repeat after installworld.
 
  HTH
 
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Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Aline de Freitas
Em Wednesday 05 March 2008 02:36:33 Isaac Mushinsky escreveu:
 I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating
 installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some
 problems.

 My nvidia card will not be of much use (GeForce 8500GT), since
 nvidia-drivers are not there for amd64, and the open source nv driver does
 not even support XVideo extension for these cards. I can downgrade to a nv
 7xxx series card, which works better with the open driver. I do not mind
 loss of 3D support, but would need basic things like mplayer.

 So my questions are:
 1. Should I get nvidia 7xxx or an ATI card? Which card is most likely to
 work reasonably well? No fancy features required, but may be appreciated
 later. 
I prefer ATI ones, like r300, in which works out-of-the-box with the 
opensource xf86-video-ati. 

 2. Any problems with flash plugin (flash7 for now, I do not mean the 
 confounded flash9 headache)?
flash7 through nspluginwrapper works fine with firefox compiled by ports.
flash9 is working through windows firefox (via wine).

 3. Other casual desktop user problems I should be aware of?

 4. Is it worth it? Perhaps I should stay with i386, but it is a pity not to
 be able to use the new machine to its full potential.
With amd64 you'll not get wine, VESA, boot splash screen and maybe more stuff. 
Even googleearth I couldn't make it work in amd64. So I think it's not a good 
idea to use amd64 as a desktop. 


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Space needed on device

2008-03-05 Thread bsd

Hello,

After an update I have little space left on the / device


Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ar0s1a3.8G3.1G414M88%/
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/ar0s1d 60G2.2G 53G 4%/home


I wanted to know if I can safely delete /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup

This beeing the default base for my previous kernel / system update


*default host=cvsup5.fr.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
*default prefix=/usr
*default tag=RELENG_5_5
*default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress
src-all



Are there any other file I should be removing ?

Knowing that I have already removed /boot/kernel.old

…



Thanks for your support.




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Re: Space needed on device

2008-03-05 Thread Pietro Cerutti
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 Hello,
 
 After an update I have little space left on the / device
 
 
 Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/ar0s1a3.8G3.1G414M88%/
 devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
 /dev/ar0s1d 60G2.2G 53G 4%/home

Given your current partition setup, I would consider backing up your
data and re-partition your system in a some more smart way ;-)

Follow the hints in the handbook:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html


 I wanted to know if I can safely delete /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup

I don't know if it would bring you much.. Such a directory weights 50MB
on my system..

 Are there any other file I should be removing ?

Yes, you can remove /usr/obj ...

 Thanks for your support.

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Re: Space needed on device

2008-03-05 Thread bsd

Le 5 mars 08 à 14:24, Pietro Cerutti a écrit :


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bsd wrote:

Hello,

After an update I have little space left on the / device


Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ar0s1a3.8G3.1G414M88%/
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/ar0s1d 60G2.2G 53G 4%/home


Given your current partition setup, I would consider backing up your
data and re-partition your system in a some more smart way ;-)

Follow the hints in the handbook:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html



I wanted to know if I can safely delete /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup


I don't know if it would bring you much.. Such a directory weights  
50MB

on my system..


So the answer is yes, … It can be removed ?





Are there any other file I should be removing ?


Yes, you can remove /usr/obj ...


Mmmh, much better :

14:33:05 /usr/obj # df -h
Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ar0s1a3.8G2.6G931M74%/
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/ar0s1d 60G2.2G 53G 4%/home

I know the scheme was not so good in the first place, but I don't want  
to go into all the hastle of reconfiguring a new system from scratch.  
Could maybe use some good advise on using smthg like dump to do this  
operation… ?







Thanks for your support.


Hope this helps,


Yes. Thanks.






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Re: FreeBSD 7.0 and VMware tools (was Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools)

2008-03-05 Thread Ivan Voras
Dimitri Yioulos wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 March 2008 12:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It seems that everybody tries to hack around the problem...:)

 Does somebody know if this is a FreeBSD problem or a VMware problem and
 who should fix it, resp. when is a fix expected?

 I mean, in 6.x the VMware tools just work.

 That would, indeed, be good to know.

Um, I've read this thread and I still don't get what is the supposed
problem is here? I'm using VMWare all the time with FreeBSD since 6.0
and here are my experiences:

- The only thing that VMWare tools are useful (on FreeBSD) is to get GUI
features like clipboard sharing and automatic mouse focus grab in X.Org.
VMWare tools on Linux seem to include a driver that does something with
memory management, but it's not available for FreeBSD. You don't need
VMWare Tools for the following things to work: networking, timer, X.Org GUI.
- Networking is handled by the le driver (in the old versions of FreeBSD
there was lnc) or the em driver. These two will work without any special
configuration of FreeBSD. To use the em driver, you might need to modify
the VM configuration to include ethernet0.virtualDev = e1000  or a
similar appropriate line. To use the VMWare vmxnet driver (which as far
as I can see isn't much different than the le driver), you need to build
a kernel without the le driver first.
- Timer problems can be lessened (never solved, even with vmware tools)
by reducing kern.hz to something like 50 or 100 Hz (in loader.conf), and
installing ntpd.
- X.Org can use the generic vmware display driver which is included in
the default X.Org collection of drivers. Mouse, etc. are also handled
generically.

Don't expect great performance, but if you're using VM technology you're
used to it.



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install/upgrade question

2008-03-05 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng
Hi,
   I think this Q is pretty basic, but I just want to make sure. I was
considering if upgrading from 6.3 to 7.0 and something goes wrong, and
I need to do a fresh install. Can I only change/overwrite the /etc
/usr, etc but leave /home intact?? thank you!!
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Re: Installing FreeBSD remotely via serial console

2008-03-05 Thread Jesse Sheidlower
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 02:13:21PM -0500, Simon Chang wrote:
 Hi,
 
   Not sure whether Dell hardware has any special management features, but on
   generic server hardware, I always make sure BIOS console redirection is
   enabled (gives you BIOS access), and that it's set to stop redirecting once
   the OS boots.
 
 If it is one of the newer Dells, there is a feature called Remote
 Access Server that is built-in and has a special Ethernet port for it
 (the symbol above the physical port is that of a wrench).  Read the
 documentation, but I believe it will get you BIOS messages, etc.
 
 What model of Dell server is it?

I think it's the PowerEdge 1950, though oddly it doesn't say
on my invoice. In any case, it does have the Remote Access
Card, so I'm going to look through the docs on this and see if
this is the right way to go.

Thanks to everyone who replied on this; will report on how the
install goes.

Jesse Sheidlower
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Re: install/upgrade question

2008-03-05 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng
yeah, I understand. backup is crucial. But I have 90% full in a 200G
drive, so it's a pain in the rear end. But I wonder if I can choose
what contents (or directories) to be installed so I can keep the rest
intact. just a thought



On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:59:45 -0500
  Tsu-Fan Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi,
  I think this Q is pretty basic, but I just want to make sure. I was
   considering if upgrading from 6.3 to 7.0 and something goes wrong, and
   I need to do a fresh install. Can I only change/overwrite the /etc
   /usr, etc but leave /home intact?? thank you!!

  Why not simply tar the dirs you want archived and save them off to some
  other media? This way you are certainly covered almost to the point of
  a hard disk failure.

  With the price of blank CD's, DVD's, and thumb drives - this seems to be
  a reasonable thing to consider.

  But to answer your question (somewhat) if I were either that unsure of
  what was going to happen (or paranoid) then I would most certainly have
  a backup (tarball) of the important stuff before I tried anything.

  Simply not invoking backups (of any type or any time) is silly.

  Just my 1/2 cent (applied current rate of inflation).

  --
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Re: Uname borked on ??-Release...

2008-03-05 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 10:11:42 Joshua Isom wrote:
 On Mar 4, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote:
  Kevin Kinsey wrote:
  Kris Kennaway wrote:
  Kevin Kinsey wrote:
 
  What about strings /boot/kernel/kernel | grep 6.2-RELEASE?
 
  Kris
 
  As I would expect, it returns nothing at all.
 
  Your problem makes no sense then :)  The kern.osrelease returns a
  string compiled into the kernel (see conf/newvers.sh), so if it
  returns 6.2-RELEASE then that string must be present.
 
  Kris

 So, have you checked to make sure your uname is accurate and not just
 an echoing shell script of sorts?  You never know, maybe someone
 hijacked your uname before you upgraded and the hijacked version wasn't
 written properly(which is odd since it's BSD licensed, where if it were
 GPL they'd have to release the code for their evil uname so can't use a
 GPL version).


Then sysctl would be a shell script too.
The only way I can see this happening, is that /boot at loader time, is not 
the same /boot after kernel is loaded.
For this reason, it would be nice if kern.bootfile would list 
ad0s1a:/boot/kernel/kernel.

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Re: install/upgrade question

2008-03-05 Thread Chris
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:14:14 -0500
Tsu-Fan Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 yeah, I understand. backup is crucial. But I have 90% full in a 200G
 drive, so it's a pain in the rear end. But I wonder if I can choose
 what contents (or directories) to be installed so I can keep the rest
 intact. just a thought

I'm unsure if what you wish to do can be done. I suppose you could try
the Upgrade feature when booting off the CD. I'm sorry, I can't give
you a complete answer.

Good luck tough.

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Re: sa: user accounting initialization failed - FreeBSD 7-stable

2008-03-05 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 03:09:01 George Fazio wrote:
 Lowell Gilbert wrote:
  George Fazio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I'm seeing errors from sa in my daily run output.  I read the man page
  for sa(8) and some of the commands that were referenced under the see
  also section.  I'm completely lost.  Could anyone point me in the
  right direction?
 
  Here is a snippet of the output from the daily run output
 
  Rotating accounting logs and gathering statistics:
  sa: converting user accounting stats: Inappropriate file type or format
  sa: user accounting initialization failed
 
  Are you intending to use the system accounting functionality?  If not,
  you probably don't need the files in /var/account at all (by default,
  there wouldn't be any).

 I probably turned them by accident on while hastily going through the
 install.  My (home) mail server had been down for nearly a week waiting
 for new hardware to arrive, and I probably was not paying quite as much
 attention as I should have been with the base install.  While I do not
 need the accounting feature, I was hoping to understand why it is not
 working to broaden my understanding of how the system functions.  I
 guess I will do some more reading and just disable it if I cannot figure
 it out.

In that case, read the daily script:
It does:
sa -s $daily_account_flags

which processes the file `acct' in /var/account.
If the file cannot be processed, because there's invalid data in there, then 
it will remain so until the file is removed by hand, because the '-s' option 
of sa(8) will not truncate on error.

How invalid data came to exist in the file, could be disk error or maybe OS 
upgrade to 7.x and they changed the format drastically? I have no idea.


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Re: install/upgrade question

2008-03-05 Thread Chris
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:59:45 -0500
Tsu-Fan Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
I think this Q is pretty basic, but I just want to make sure. I was
 considering if upgrading from 6.3 to 7.0 and something goes wrong, and
 I need to do a fresh install. Can I only change/overwrite the /etc
 /usr, etc but leave /home intact?? thank you!!

Why not simply tar the dirs you want archived and save them off to some
other media? This way you are certainly covered almost to the point of
a hard disk failure.

With the price of blank CD's, DVD's, and thumb drives - this seems to be
a reasonable thing to consider.

But to answer your question (somewhat) if I were either that unsure of
what was going to happen (or paranoid) then I would most certainly have
a backup (tarball) of the important stuff before I tried anything.

Simply not invoking backups (of any type or any time) is silly.

Just my 1/2 cent (applied current rate of inflation).

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Re: FreeBSD 6.2+PHP+700 sites = DNS Issues?

2008-03-05 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 12:01:11 Simon Street wrote:
 In addition i've attempted adding:

 kern.maxfilesperproc=65536
 kern.ipc.somaxconn=1024
 kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=2097152
 kern.maxprocperuid=9000
 to sysctl.conf

 kern.maxproc=10240
 kern.maxfiles=65536
 kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768
 kern.ipc.maxsockets=51200
 to loader.conf

 I've also disabled ipv6 in the kernel (can't remember where I saw this
 suggestion)

 Post this I've recompiled apache with:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] export CFLAGS=-DFD_SETSIZE=12000
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] export CXX_FLAGS=-DFD_SETSIZE=12000
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /scripts/easyapache (this is the cPanel script that auto
 regens apache/php/addons)

 I'm having a hard time believing that this issue only plagues FreeBSD
 and is unfixable!

 Anyone got any ideas on what else I can change?

Well, you're probably not reaching any CPanel users, so how about posting the 
offending script. Companies like to blame others, lawyers tell them to.

What is this script doing anyway, that it needs 12000 open file descriptors?

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Re: install/upgrade question

2008-03-05 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:59:45 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:

I think this Q is pretty basic, but I just want to make sure. I was
 considering if upgrading from 6.3 to 7.0 and something goes wrong, and
 I need to do a fresh install. Can I only change/overwrite the /etc
 /usr, etc but leave /home intact?? thank you!!

What's in your /etc/fstab?

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building 32bit port on AMD64 (mplayer)

2008-03-05 Thread Jan Catrysse
Hi all,

 

I am using FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE AMD64.

 

I would need to build /ports/multimedia/mplayer (and I suppose its
dependencies) in a 32-bit version. This because certain options (win32
codec support) doesn't work on the 64bit version.

 

How is this done?

 

Is it also possible to have the 64bit and 32bit version coexist? I hope
the 64bit version works faster but I'm not sure...

 

A big thanks.

Jan Catrysse

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freebsd-upgrade from 6.2 to 6.3 errors

2008-03-05 Thread Gert Lynge - Inter-Data A/S
Hi

Just followed 
http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2007-11-10-freebsd-minor-version-upgrade.html 
very careful to upgrade my box from 6.2 to 6.3 (btw. great work by Colin 
Percival). Now uname shows:
# uname -a
FreeBSD ws.inter-data.dk 6.3-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p1 #0: Wed Feb 13 
02:56:56 UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP  i386

...as expected. The problems is that at the final sh freebsd-update.sh -f 
freebsd-update.conf install it said:
# sh freebsd-update.sh -f freebsd-update.conf install
Installing updates...ln: ///usr/share/man/man4/em.4.gz: No such file or 
directory
rmdir: ///usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gzip: Directory not empty

Should I be concerned?
The system seems to run fine, but man pages (i.e. man em or man arp) still 
states FreeBSD 6.2 at the final line. Is this wrong?
What about the two errors. Do I need to clean something up after 
freebsd-update?:

# ls -l /usr/share/man/man4/em*
-rwxr--r-x  1 root  wheel  5391 Jun 29  2007 /usr/share/man/man4/em.4
-r--r--r--  2 root  wheel  2879 Mar 14  2007 /usr/share/man/man4/emSAVE.4.gz

# ls -l /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gzip
total 64
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  10701 May  3  2004 gzip.h.orig
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  31707 Aug 13  2004 inflate.c.orig
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   9229 Aug 28  1999 unlzh.c.orig
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   8212 Aug 28  1999 unpack.c.orig

Thank you in advantage...

With kind regards

Gert Lynge
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Re: building 32bit port on AMD64 (mplayer)

2008-03-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar



I would need to build /ports/multimedia/mplayer (and I suppose its
dependencies) in a 32-bit version. This because certain options (win32
codec support) doesn't work on the 64bit version.



How is this done?



no way. unless you will install FreeBSD/i386 bins and ports on subdir and 
use chroot.


or just get mplayer binaries from i386 system and put here
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DNS Question

2008-03-05 Thread 国徽
Hello,

I am building the DNS Server,But I can't find the script 
/etc/namedb/make-localhost used in the document, So I can't go on now? Please 
tell me how to find the script,Thank you very much!


Best Regards!

Freebsd Lover:Erik


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Re: FreeBSD 7.0 and VMware tools (was Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools)

2008-03-05 Thread James Seward
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Ivan Voras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  - Timer problems can be lessened (never solved, even with vmware tools)
  by reducing kern.hz to something like 50 or 100 Hz (in loader.conf), and
  installing ntpd.

Installing the VMware Tools is a very good idea for timer problems as
it helps the VM catch up after the host was unable to send it
interrupts fast enough. If you don't install the tools, you should run
ntp instead (but never both together).
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Re: DNS Question

2008-03-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
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 Hello,
 
 I am building the DNS Server,But I can't find the script
 /etc/namedb/make-localhost used in the document, So I can't go on
 now? Please tell me how to find the script,Thank you very much! 
 

Unfortunately the documentation is a bit out of date.  You no longer need
to run 'make-localhost' -- there are pre-built zone files for localhost, and
for 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa and the equivalent inverse domain for IPv6-ish
::1 that come with the system and which you can just use without further ado.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: DNS Question

2008-03-05 Thread David Alanis

Hi Erik:

I don't recall the how-to explaining the usage of this script. I too,  
just recently setup a DNS server for a couple domains. My  
recommendation is to familiarize yourself with the Administrators  
Reference Manual (ARM) on BIND's website:


http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/bind/arm93/

I found it more valuable than just following someone else's simple steps!

David Alanis

Quoting ?? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hello,

I am building the DNS Server,But I can't find the script   
/etc/namedb/make-localhost used in the document, So I can't go on   
now? Please tell me how to find the script,Thank you very much!



Best Regards!

Freebsd Lover:Erik


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RE: Printing with a laserjet 1018

2008-03-05 Thread Peter


First of all, thanks to those who have helped me so far.
I have configured the printer and everything looks OK, but when I do a test
print the test page goes into the printer queue and stays there for ever.
The printer doesn't even squeak. First I had to use the print driver for a
laserjet 1010 as I couldn't kind a driver for the 1018. Second the printer
does work under the alternate OS.

Any ideas?

Thank you,

Bob

Here is my config for the HP1018:
dsl:#pkg_info| egrep cups|ghost|foo
cups-base-1.3.4_1   Common UNIX Printing System
cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_1 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to
non-PS printers
foo2zjs-20070120_1  Driver for printers that use the ZjStream wire protocol
foomatic-db-20070124_1 Foomatic database
foomatic-filters-3.0.2_4 Foomatic wrapper scripts
ghostscript-gpl-8.60 GPL Postscript interpreter


dsl:$cat /root/bin/printer.sh
#!/bin/sh
export
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin

cat /usr/local/share/foo2zjs/firmware/sihp1018.dl  /dev/ugen0.1

you might need to change your 'ugen0.1' to whatever USB port your printer
is plugged into.  Before you can use the printer, you have to do that
above 'cat' command to load firmware.

make sure regular users can use the printer: [chmod 666]
dsl:#ls -l /dev/ugen0.1
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  operator0,  40 Mar  4 23:32 /dev/ugen0.1

and
via the cups web interface [localhost:631] just configure a new printer
and choose the HP foo drivers,etc.etc.  It just works.
When you do the 'cat' command for firmware, the printer should make some
noise and moving around.  After that I'm able to print from
konqueror/kprinter/firefox/etc.etc.

dsl:#cat /usr/local/etc/cups/printers.conf
# Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.3.4
# Written by cupsd on 2008-02-27 18:44
Printer HP1018
Info HP LaserJet 1018
Location 1018
DeviceURI usb:/dev/ugen0.1
State Idle
StateTime 1204163073
Accepting Yes
Shared Yes
JobSheets none none
QuotaPeriod 0
PageLimit 0
KLimit 0
AllowUser root
AllowUser peter
AllowUser Sanyusha
OpPolicy default
ErrorPolicy stop-printer
/Printer

]Peter[

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accf_http and incqlen

2008-03-05 Thread Scott Oertel
I setup the http accept filter with apache and I was having a hard time
understanding this, maybe you guys could help out.

I've tested this among various version of freebsd, and with various
apache configs, and it appears to behave the same across the board.

So why is it that it appears that the TCP connections never terminate,
just stay in a state of ESTABLISHED, and why doesn't this queue ever
flush itself, is it normal, if it is, what happens exactly when the
queue fills up to maxqlen. From the netstat output below, you can see
that the incqlen is maxed out. I've done quite a bit of searching
regarding this queue but haven't found any real solid information which
describes what happens when it fills up, and at the same time this is
going on, I have 517 established connections to port 80.

]# netstat -an|grep \.80|grep ESTAB|wc -l
 519


]# netstat -Lan

Current listen queue sizes (qlen/incqlen/maxqlen)
Proto Listen Local Address
tcp4  0/0/5  *.8080
tcp4  0/510/511  *.80
tcp4  0/0/10 *.587
tcp4  0/0/10 *.25
tcp4  0/0/128*.22
tcp4  0/0/100*.3306
tcp4  0/0/9  *.21
tcp4  0/0/128127.0.0.1.953
tcp4  0/0/3  127.0.0.1.53


-Scott Oertel

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Re: FreeBSD 6.2+PHP+700 sites = DNS Issues?

2008-03-05 Thread Simon Street
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 05 March 2008 12:01:11 Simon Street wrote:
   In addition i've attempted adding:
  
   kern.maxfilesperproc=65536
   kern.ipc.somaxconn=1024
   kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=2097152
   kern.maxprocperuid=9000
   to sysctl.conf
  
   kern.maxproc=10240
   kern.maxfiles=65536
   kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768
   kern.ipc.maxsockets=51200
   to loader.conf
  
   I've also disabled ipv6 in the kernel (can't remember where I saw this
   suggestion)
  
   Post this I've recompiled apache with:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] export CFLAGS=-DFD_SETSIZE=12000
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] export CXX_FLAGS=-DFD_SETSIZE=12000
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] /scripts/easyapache (this is the cPanel script that auto
   regens apache/php/addons)
  
   I'm having a hard time believing that this issue only plagues FreeBSD
   and is unfixable!
  
   Anyone got any ideas on what else I can change?

  Well, you're probably not reaching any CPanel users, so how about posting the
  offending script. Companies like to blame others, lawyers tell them to.

  What is this script doing anyway, that it needs 12000 open file descriptors?

  --
  Mel

  Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules
 and never get to the software part.

The problems php inside apache (700+ sites). Not sure if gmail replied
to my original email properly or not!

Basically, PHP refuses (instantly) to resolve dns with mod_php, but
its fine connecting to an IP with the same piece of fsockopen code.
And it will happily resolve the name if its run from the CLI.

I've been told by cpanel that this is a FreeBSD bug but I'm having a
hard time accepting that. cPanels third line support seem unable to
fix it and are telling me to switch to CGI/suphp which the customer
isn't happy with due to .htaccess stuff.

I'm making an assumption that its a lack of FD's but my attempts to
compile stuff with more seems to be failing, or my assumptions are
wrong.
Code that breaks:
$fp = fsockopen(www.example.com, 80, $errno, $errstr, 30); // Fails
inside apache2.2/mod_php5, works fine with php5cli on same server
$fp = fsockopen(208.77.188.166,  80, $errno, $errstr, 30);// Works all round

The code fails with:
Warning: fsockopen() [function.fsockopen]: php_network_getaddresses:
getaddrinfo failed: hostname nor servname provided, or not known in
test.php on line 2
But dns is fine on the server.
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Re: install/upgrade question

2008-03-05 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng
um... dont remember exactly.. but it mounts 2 other HD drives, and the
usual, such as / (root), procs (perhaps?), /home swap,  .. why??


On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:59:45 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:

  I think this Q is pretty basic, but I just want to make sure. I was
   considering if upgrading from 6.3 to 7.0 and something goes wrong, and
   I need to do a fresh install. Can I only change/overwrite the /etc
   /usr, etc but leave /home intact?? thank you!!

  What's in your /etc/fstab?

  --
  Mel

  Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules
 and never get to the software part.

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Re: install/upgrade question

2008-03-05 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 17:13:50 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:59:45 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
   I think this Q is pretty basic, but I just want to make sure. I was
considering if upgrading from 6.3 to 7.0 and something goes wrong, and
I need to do a fresh install. Can I only change/overwrite the /etc
/usr, etc but leave /home intact?? thank you!!
 
   What's in your /etc/fstab?
 um... dont remember exactly.. but it mounts 2 other HD drives, and the
 usual, such as / (root), procs (perhaps?), /home swap,  .. why??


Cause if /home and /usr/local are on a different partition, then you can 
newfs /usr and / and just tar /etc (which shouldn't be more then 10M 
compressed).
Depends how you screwed up your install of course. If the boot sector is gone, 
then so is all your data.
Generally, upgrades of base system do not overwrite /usr/local or /home, 
but /usr will contain the new base system and /etc is upgraded by 
mergemaster.


-- 
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7.0 kde 3 build patch error

2008-03-05 Thread Robin Becker
I'm trying to build kde3 from ports with 7.0 release and get this patch error 
whilst trying to build cups


===   Running ldconfig
/sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib
===   Registering installation for libmng-1.0.9
===   Returning to build of qt-3.3.8_6
===   qt-3.3.8_6 depends on shared library: png - found
===   qt-3.3.8_6 depends on shared library: jpeg - found
===   qt-3.3.8_6 depends on shared library: Xft.2 - found
===   qt-3.3.8_6 depends on shared library: cups.2 - not found
===Verifying install for cups.2 in /usr/ports/print/cups-base
===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
===  Found saved configuration for cups-base-1.3.5_2
= cups-1.3.5-source.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
= Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/1.3.5/.
cups-1.3.5-source.tar.bz2 100% of 3986 kB  190 kBps 00m00s
===  Extracting for cups-base-1.3.5_2
= MD5 Checksum OK for cups-1.3.5-source.tar.bz2.
= SHA256 Checksum OK for cups-1.3.5-source.tar.bz2.
===  Patching for cups-base-1.3.5_2
===  Applying FreeBSD patches for cups-base-1.3.5_2
Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch.
10 out of 10 hunks ignored--saving rejects to cups/ipp.c.rej
= Patch patch-CVE-2007-4351 failed to apply cleanly.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/print/cups-base.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde3.
/usr/ports/x11/kde3:


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Re: FreeBSD 6.2+PHP+700 sites = DNS Issues?

2008-03-05 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 17:11:25 Simon Street wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  On Wednesday 05 March 2008 12:01:11 Simon Street wrote:
In addition i've attempted adding:
   
kern.maxfilesperproc=65536
kern.ipc.somaxconn=1024
kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=2097152
kern.maxprocperuid=9000
to sysctl.conf
   
kern.maxproc=10240
kern.maxfiles=65536
kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768
kern.ipc.maxsockets=51200
to loader.conf
   
I've also disabled ipv6 in the kernel (can't remember where I saw this
suggestion)
   
Post this I've recompiled apache with:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] export CFLAGS=-DFD_SETSIZE=12000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] export CXX_FLAGS=-DFD_SETSIZE=12000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /scripts/easyapache (this is the cPanel script that 
  auto
regens apache/php/addons)
   
I'm having a hard time believing that this issue only plagues FreeBSD
and is unfixable!
   
Anyone got any ideas on what else I can change?
 
   Well, you're probably not reaching any CPanel users, so how about
  posting the offending script. Companies like to blame others, lawyers
  tell them to.
 
   What is this script doing anyway, that it needs 12000 open file
  descriptors?
 
   --
   Mel
 
   Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules
  and never get to the software part.

 The problems php inside apache (700+ sites). Not sure if gmail replied
 to my original email properly or not!

 Basically, PHP refuses (instantly) to resolve dns with mod_php, but
 its fine connecting to an IP with the same piece of fsockopen code.
 And it will happily resolve the name if its run from the CLI.

 I've been told by cpanel that this is a FreeBSD bug but I'm having a
 hard time accepting that. cPanels third line support seem unable to
 fix it and are telling me to switch to CGI/suphp which the customer
 isn't happy with due to .htaccess stuff.

 I'm making an assumption that its a lack of FD's but my attempts to
 compile stuff with more seems to be failing, or my assumptions are
 wrong.
 Code that breaks:
 $fp = fsockopen(www.example.com, 80, $errno, $errstr, 30); // Fails
 inside apache2.2/mod_php5, works fine with php5cli on same server
 $fp = fsockopen(208.77.188.166,  80, $errno, $errstr, 30);// Works all
 round

 The code fails with:
 Warning: fsockopen() [function.fsockopen]: php_network_getaddresses:
 getaddrinfo failed: hostname nor servname provided, or not known in
 test.php on line 2
 But dns is fine on the server.

Doesn't have anything to do with the DNS, I'm still looking how this can be, 
but the error means that no hostname has been given, since php passes NULL to 
servname by default (see main/network.c around line 202).
So somewhere along the way the hostname passed to the function gets lost.
-- 
Mel

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and never get to the software part.
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Re: nss_ldap wants openldap 2.3.41 - have 2.4.8

2008-03-05 Thread Jason Garrett
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Eddie C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jason,

  I was willing to settle for openldap 23. Im my case however the
  problem is nscd daemon. new to 7.0 not in 6.3 We want to role this out
  across hundreds of servers and fear that without caching looks to a
  halt. I spoke to another guy about this this morning. We might setup a
  wiki or find a IRC chat room or something. Are you interested?

  Edward

Edward,

I would be absolutley interested. I am usually available from 1730 CST
to 2200 or 2300 CST.

Just let me know the details.




  On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Jason Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Jason Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 This is most likely a dumb question, but how do I tell ports to build
 nss_ldap against openldap-2.4.8?
  
  
WANT_OPENLDAP_VER=24
  
worked in /etc/make.conf
  
  

 snip errors
  
  
   
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Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote:
 I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating 
 installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some 
 problems.
 
 My nvidia card will not be of much use (GeForce 8500GT), since nvidia-drivers 
 are not there for amd64, and the open source nv driver does not even support 
 XVideo extension for these cards. I can downgrade to a nv 7xxx series card, 
 which works better with the open driver. I do not mind loss of 3D support, 
 but would need basic things like mplayer.

Any ATI card up to and including the 9250 (rv280) is fully supported on
amd64, 3D and all. (I know because I've got one :-)
 
 2. Any problems with flash plugin (flash7 for now, I do not mean the 
 confounded flash9 headache)?

I've never been able to get a native flash player to work, but I don't
mind doing without. The downloadhelper plugin for firefox can help you
download a lot of movies (e.g. youtube) which you then can play with
mplayer. All the flash ads I'll gladly do without.

 3. Other casual desktop user problems I should be aware of?

Wine is i386 only.

 4. Is it worth it? Perhaps I should stay with i386, but it is a pity
 not to be able to use the new machine to its full potential.

Practically you don't _need_ amd64 unless you're running out of address
space on i386. Me, I'm running amd64 because I can. :-) My desktop has a gig
of RAM, and I seldom use more than half of that. Mind you, I'm using a
simple window manager not a desktop environment with lots of bells  whistles.

I suspect binaries on i386 will be somewhat smaller. But amd64 has more
registers which might give some speed advantages. I haven't tested it, but it
might be nice to do a speed comparison between i386 and amd64 on
identical hardware. I don't think the difference will matter for
a common desktop though; the CPU of a desktop is mostly idling anyway.

Roland
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Re: FreeBSD 6.2+PHP+700 sites = DNS Issues?

2008-03-05 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 17:50:45 Mel wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 March 2008 17:11:25 Simon Street wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
   On Wednesday 05 March 2008 12:01:11 Simon Street wrote:
 In addition i've attempted adding:

 kern.maxfilesperproc=65536
 kern.ipc.somaxconn=1024
 kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=2097152
 kern.maxprocperuid=9000
 to sysctl.conf

 kern.maxproc=10240
 kern.maxfiles=65536
 kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768
 kern.ipc.maxsockets=51200
 to loader.conf

 I've also disabled ipv6 in the kernel (can't remember where I saw
 this suggestion)

 Post this I've recompiled apache with:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] export CFLAGS=-DFD_SETSIZE=12000
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] export CXX_FLAGS=-DFD_SETSIZE=12000
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /scripts/easyapache (this is the cPanel script that 
   auto
 regens apache/php/addons)

 I'm having a hard time believing that this issue only plagues
 FreeBSD and is unfixable!

 Anyone got any ideas on what else I can change?
  
Well, you're probably not reaching any CPanel users, so how about
   posting the offending script. Companies like to blame others, lawyers
   tell them to.
  
What is this script doing anyway, that it needs 12000 open file
   descriptors?
  
--
Mel
  
Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules
   and never get to the software part.
 
  The problems php inside apache (700+ sites). Not sure if gmail replied
  to my original email properly or not!
 
  Basically, PHP refuses (instantly) to resolve dns with mod_php, but
  its fine connecting to an IP with the same piece of fsockopen code.
  And it will happily resolve the name if its run from the CLI.
 
  I've been told by cpanel that this is a FreeBSD bug but I'm having a
  hard time accepting that. cPanels third line support seem unable to
  fix it and are telling me to switch to CGI/suphp which the customer
  isn't happy with due to .htaccess stuff.
 
  I'm making an assumption that its a lack of FD's but my attempts to
  compile stuff with more seems to be failing, or my assumptions are
  wrong.
  Code that breaks:
  $fp = fsockopen(www.example.com, 80, $errno, $errstr, 30); // Fails
  inside apache2.2/mod_php5, works fine with php5cli on same server
  $fp = fsockopen(208.77.188.166,  80, $errno, $errstr, 30);// Works all
  round
 
  The code fails with:
  Warning: fsockopen() [function.fsockopen]: php_network_getaddresses:
  getaddrinfo failed: hostname nor servname provided, or not known in
  test.php on line 2
  But dns is fine on the server.

 Doesn't have anything to do with the DNS, I'm still looking how this can
 be, but the error means that no hostname has been given, since php passes
 NULL to servname by default (see main/network.c around line 202).
 So somewhere along the way the hostname passed to the function gets lost.

Argh, strike that, the same errorcode is used for unresolvable hostnames. I'm 
gonna take a guess that the process is chrooted into /usr/local and therefore 
cannot access /etc/resolv.conf to know what the nameserver is.
And, something just entered my mind from way way back - I think if you don't 
have HostnameLookups enabled, that any attempt to do resolving inside a httpd 
child, will fail.

-- 
Mel

Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules
and never get to the software part.
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Re: 7.0 kde 3 build patch error

2008-03-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, March 05, 2008 a las 04:02:11PM +, Robin Becker escribió:

 I'm trying to build kde3 from ports with 7.0 release and get this patch 
 error whilst trying to build cups
 
 ===   Running ldconfig
 /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib
 ===   Registering installation for libmng-1.0.9
 ===   Returning to build of qt-3.3.8_6
 ===   qt-3.3.8_6 depends on shared library: png - found
 ===   qt-3.3.8_6 depends on shared library: jpeg - found
 ===   qt-3.3.8_6 depends on shared library: Xft.2 - found
 ===   qt-3.3.8_6 depends on shared library: cups.2 - not found
 ===Verifying install for cups.2 in /usr/ports/print/cups-base
 ===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
 ===  Found saved configuration for cups-base-1.3.5_2
 = cups-1.3.5-source.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
 = Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/1.3.5/.
 cups-1.3.5-source.tar.bz2 100% of 3986 kB  190 kBps 
 00m00s
 ===  Extracting for cups-base-1.3.5_2
 = MD5 Checksum OK for cups-1.3.5-source.tar.bz2.
 = SHA256 Checksum OK for cups-1.3.5-source.tar.bz2.
 ===  Patching for cups-base-1.3.5_2
 ===  Applying FreeBSD patches for cups-base-1.3.5_2
 Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch.
 10 out of 10 hunks ignored--saving rejects to cups/ipp.c.rej
 = Patch patch-CVE-2007-4351 failed to apply cleanly.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/print/cups-base.
 *** Error code 1
...

I run into the same problem and fetched the tar file of the
cups-base-1.3.6 port from FreeBSD which compiles fine;

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Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread alive
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:13:03 +0100, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote:
 I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating 
 installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some 
 problems.
 
 My nvidia card will not be of much use (GeForce 8500GT), since
 nvidia-drivers 
 are not there for amd64, and the open source nv driver does not even
 support 
 XVideo extension for these cards. I can downgrade to a nv 7xxx series
 card, 
 which works better with the open driver. I do not mind loss of 3D
 support, 
 but would need basic things like mplayer.
 
 Any ATI card up to and including the 9250 (rv280) is fully supported on
 amd64, 3D and all. (I know because I've got one :-)
Oh, is that so? Could you please tell me how you got it to work? Because
I've got GREAT issues getting *ANY* ATI card to work with at least
Composite on FreeBSD and/or Linux. And I've even got i386. Or has something
happened since I last cried myself to sleep over this driverless hell?
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make.conf CPUTYPE Xeon Conroe?

2008-03-05 Thread Nerius Landys
 I'm running FreeBSD 7.0 on a server with an Intel Xeon Dual-Core 3060
Conroe (2.4GHz) CPU.
I'm wondering what I should set CPUTYPE to in my /etc/make.conf.
The file /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf has this information:

#   (Intel CPUs)core2 core nocona pentium4m pentium4 prescott
#   pentium3m pentium3 pentium-m pentium2
#   pentiumpro pentium-mmx pentium i486 i386

I guess those are the possibilities.  Which one should I choose for my
processor?

Also, by accident, I had CPUTYPE=p4 in my make.conf when I compiled world,
kernel, and ports.  p4 is a flag from older FreeBSD distributions I
think.  Will this (this meaning both that p4 may be unrecognized and/or
it's not my processor type) cause any problems, or should I recompile
everything with the correct CPUTYPE flag?  Installing world is a hassle
because it's not easy for me to do it from single user mode.

Thanks.

- Nerius
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Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Isaac Mushinsky
On 3/5/08, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote:
  I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating
  installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some
  problems.
 
  My nvidia card will not be of much use (GeForce 8500GT), since
 nvidia-drivers
  are not there for amd64, and the open source nv driver does not even
 support
  XVideo extension for these cards. I can downgrade to a nv 7xxx series
 card,
  which works better with the open driver. I do not mind loss of 3D
 support,
  but would need basic things like mplayer.


 Any ATI card up to and including the 9250 (rv280) is fully supported on
 amd64, 3D and all. (I know because I've got one :-)


  2. Any problems with flash plugin (flash7 for now, I do not mean the
  confounded flash9 headache)?


 I've never been able to get a native flash player to work, but I don't
 mind doing without. The downloadhelper plugin for firefox can help you
 download a lot of movies (e.g. youtube) which you then can play with
 mplayer. All the flash ads I'll gladly do without.


  3. Other casual desktop user problems I should be aware of?


 Wine is i386 only.


  4. Is it worth it? Perhaps I should stay with i386, but it is a pity
  not to be able to use the new machine to its full potential.


 Practically you don't _need_ amd64 unless you're running out of address
 space on i386. Me, I'm running amd64 because I can. :-) My desktop has a
 gig
 of RAM, and I seldom use more than half of that. Mind you, I'm using a
 simple window manager not a desktop environment with lots of bells 
 whistles.

 I suspect binaries on i386 will be somewhat smaller. But amd64 has more
 registers which might give some speed advantages. I haven't tested it, but
 it
 might be nice to do a speed comparison between i386 and amd64 on
 identical hardware. I don't think the difference will matter for
 a common desktop though; the CPU of a desktop is mostly idling anyway.

 Roland

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Thanks a lot. Trouble is, new hardware does not even have an AGP slot for
those cards. I don't mind to go without 3D, though, and it appears some
newer cards (R5xx/R6xx) have decent drivers otherwise.

Yes, I also want to go amd64 because I can. Besides, it will be a fresh
install, and if ever, this is the right time to switch.
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Re: install/upgrade question

2008-03-05 Thread Alphons Fonz van Werven

Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:


Can I only change/overwrite the /etc
/usr, etc but leave /home intact??


Depends. If your /home is a seperate partition AND you don't need to
repartition (relabel) the disk, you should be ok. In disklabel, you'll find
a newfs toggle. If you set this to N for a certain partition, that partition
will not be reformatted and all data on it should be preserved if nothing 
strange happens. I've done this several times without problems, for example

to preserve /home and/or my CVS repository between installs. I always kept
backups though, in case something goes wrong during the install and the
partition gets screwed up after all, which is unlikely but NOT impossible!

If your /home is merely a directory on a larger partition (for example
because it's symlinked to /usr/home or something), or if you need to
repartition/relabel the disk, it gets tricky and you'll probably be better
off restoring from a backup.

Alphons

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starting a program at boot time

2008-03-05 Thread Bill Banks

how do i  start a program  at boot time?

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Re: starting a program at boot time

2008-03-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar

how do i  start a program  at boot time?


simplest to add to rc.local

or as a user - add

@reboot command
in crontab


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Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar

of RAM, and I seldom use more than half of that. Mind you, I'm using a
simple window manager not a desktop environment with lots of bells 
whistles.

I suspect binaries on i386 will be somewhat smaller. But amd64 has more
registers which might give some speed advantages. I haven't tested it, but


yes it is much faster (somehow like 20%), and code size are rarely big 
part of memory usage. data size may be a problem if program uses huge 
tables with pointers, like squid.


i always use amd64 on amd64-capable hardware, with exception of i386 squid 
binary which doesn't use much CPU but lots of RAM, and a bit less with 
i386

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Re: Deb archives

2008-03-05 Thread n j
  Yes you did! Interesting enough thought, I would like to see how one
  might config apt-get to be used w/FreeBSD and the packages (I assume?).

You might want to have a look at Debian GNU/kFreeBSD
(http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/).

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Re: starting a program at boot time

2008-03-05 Thread Nerius Landys
how do i  start a program  at boot time?


What is the exact program you want to start at boot time?  Is this a
standard program that is typically started at boot time or is it some sort
of custom program that is non-standard?  If it's a standard program such as
the ssh daemon or the apache webserver, then read my post, otherwise ignore
what I say here and refer to other people's posts.

Have a look in the directories /etc/rc.d/ and /usr/local/etc/rc.d/.  Do you
see a script in these directories that may lauch the program you're
interested in at boot time?  For example, on my system, I want ssh and
apache running on bootup.  I see the file /etc/rc.d/sshd and the file
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22.  These are scripts that lauch the programs.  I
would start sshd manually for example by

   /etc/rc.d/sshd start

To enable these on bootup automatically, edit your /etc/rc.conf file.  Mine
has the following lines:

  sshd_enable=YES
  apache22_enable=YES

As you can see the lines resemble the script names in the rc.d directories.
To enable your program at boot time, add a similar line to rc.conf.

Hope this helps.

-Nerius
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Re: make.conf CPUTYPE Xeon Conroe?

2008-03-05 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 11:55:48 am Nerius Landys wrote:
  I'm running FreeBSD 7.0 on a server with an Intel Xeon Dual-Core 3060
 Conroe (2.4GHz) CPU.
 I'm wondering what I should set CPUTYPE to in my /etc/make.conf.
 The file /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf has this information:

 #   (Intel CPUs)core2 core nocona pentium4m pentium4 prescott
 #   pentium3m pentium3 pentium-m pentium2
 #   pentiumpro pentium-mmx pentium i486 i386

 I guess those are the possibilities.  Which one should I choose for my
 processor?

 Also, by accident, I had CPUTYPE=p4 in my make.conf when I compiled world,
 kernel, and ports.  p4 is a flag from older FreeBSD distributions I
 think.  Will this (this meaning both that p4 may be unrecognized and/or
 it's not my processor type) cause any problems, or should I recompile
 everything with the correct CPUTYPE flag?  Installing world is a hassle
 because it's not easy for me to do it from single user mode.

 Thanks.

 - Nerius

As a general rule, setting a CPUTYPE is something you should try to 
avoid...there's all sorts of breakage it can cause for very little gain.  If 
you're heart is set on it though, your CPU is a core2.

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Re: starting a program at boot time

2008-03-05 Thread n j
 how do i  start a program  at boot time?

I found the following threads helpful:

script to be executed on system startup
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=116+0+archive/2008/freebsd-questions/20080210.freebsd-questions

/usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts and non-root user
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1210729+0+archive/2008/freebsd-questions/20080210.freebsd-questions

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Re: building 32bit port on AMD64 (mplayer)

2008-03-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 03:33:43PM +0100, Jan Catrysse wrote:
 I am using FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE AMD64.
 
 I would need to build /ports/multimedia/mplayer (and I suppose its
 dependencies) in a 32-bit version. This because certain options (win32
 codec support) doesn't work on the 64bit version.

Are you sure you _need_ those codecs? I'm using mplayer on amd64 and I
haven't found many videos that it doesn't play. Certainly things like
youtube videos work fine without win32 codecs.

 How is this done?

The easiest way is to run i386.

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Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 06:29:51PM +0100, alive wrote:
  Any ATI card up to and including the 9250 (rv280) is fully supported on
  amd64, 3D and all. (I know because I've got one :-)

 Oh, is that so? Could you please tell me how you got it to work? Because
 I've got GREAT issues getting *ANY* ATI card to work with at least
 Composite on FreeBSD and/or Linux. And I've even got i386. Or has something
 happened since I last cried myself to sleep over this driverless hell?

- Add the device radeondrm to you kernel config and recompile, or load
  the radeon.ko kernel module.
- Install the xf86-video-ati driver (this is xorg 7.3!)
- Load the right modules in xorg.conf;
Section Module
Loaddri
Loadglx
Loaddbe
Loadextmod
Loadfreetype
Loadtype1
EndSection
- Use the radeon driver in xorg.conf:
Section Device
Identifier  Card0
Driver  radeon
#Option  AGPMode   8
#Option  DDCMode   true
EndSection

That's about it, I think.

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Re: make.conf CPUTYPE Xeon Conroe?

2008-03-05 Thread Robert Huff

Josh Paetzel writes:

  As a general rule, setting a CPUTYPE is something you should try
  to avoid...there's all sorts of breakage it can cause for very
  little gain.

Do you have examples?  I ask because I've had CPUTYPE? = p4
on this machine for five years - dozens of buildworlds and possibly
thousands of port builds - and never had anything attributable to
that go wrong.


Robert Huff
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Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Bob Johnson
On 3/5/08, Isaac Mushinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/5/08, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote:
   I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating
   installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some
   problems.
  
   My nvidia card will not be of much use (GeForce 8500GT), since
  nvidia-drivers
   are not there for amd64, and the open source nv driver does not even
  support
   XVideo extension for these cards. I can downgrade to a nv 7xxx series
  card,
   which works better with the open driver. I do not mind loss of 3D
  support,
   but would need basic things like mplayer.
 
 
  Any ATI card up to and including the 9250 (rv280) is fully supported on
  amd64, 3D and all. (I know because I've got one :-)
 
 
[...]

 Thanks a lot. Trouble is, new hardware does not even have an AGP slot for
 those cards. I don't mind to go without 3D, though, and it appears some
 newer cards (R5xx/R6xx) have decent drivers otherwise.

 Yes, I also want to go amd64 because I can. Besides, it will be a fresh
 install, and if ever, this is the right time to switch.

Where can I get a decent driver for ATI chipsets (e.g. RG516)?

The radeonhd driver does not support hardware acceleration, and so far
it doesn't work properly with my brain-dead RG516 card (which tells
radeonhd that there are no monitors connected), leaving me with the
vesa driver, which is pretty limiting but at least is better than
nothing. Although this was planned to be an amd64 system, I'm forced
to use i386 because the HP BIOS won't boot FreeBSD amd64 (I will never
voluntarily have anything to do with another HP system after my
experience with this one).

My nVidia-based system works (although not as well as it did with
older nVidia drivers), but it is an older card on an i386 system. I
don't know what happens with newer nVidia chipsets.

- Bob
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Re: make.conf CPUTYPE Xeon Conroe?

2008-03-05 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 09:55:48AM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote:
  I'm running FreeBSD 7.0 on a server with an Intel Xeon Dual-Core 3060
 Conroe (2.4GHz) CPU.
 I'm wondering what I should set CPUTYPE to in my /etc/make.conf.
 The file /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf has this information:
 
 #   (Intel CPUs)core2 core nocona pentium4m pentium4 prescott
 #   pentium3m pentium3 pentium-m pentium2
 #   pentiumpro pentium-mmx pentium i486 i386
 
 I guess those are the possibilities.  Which one should I choose for my
 processor?

I would suggest that you *NOT* set the CPUTYPE. The gains are are
minimal compared to the pain you will have if you also use the ports
system.
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Re: make.conf CPUTYPE Xeon Conroe?

2008-03-05 Thread David Alanis
Alike other users how can you compare the benefits pros/cons of  
setting the CPU type?


Documentation reads otherwise and it only mentions possible cons in  
one section?


# CFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C code.
# Note that optimization settings other than -O and -O2 are not recommended
# or supported for compiling the world or the kernel - please revert any
# nonstandard optimization settings to -O or -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing
# before submitting bug reports without patches to the developers.

I needs  proof :)

David-

Quoting Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 09:55:48AM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote:

 I'm running FreeBSD 7.0 on a server with an Intel Xeon Dual-Core 3060
Conroe (2.4GHz) CPU.
I'm wondering what I should set CPUTYPE to in my /etc/make.conf.
The file /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf has this information:

#   (Intel CPUs)core2 core nocona pentium4m pentium4 prescott
#   pentium3m pentium3 pentium-m pentium2
#   pentiumpro pentium-mmx pentium i486 i386

I guess those are the possibilities.  Which one should I choose for my
processor?


I would suggest that you *NOT* set the CPUTYPE. The gains are are
minimal compared to the pain you will have if you also use the ports
system.
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Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread alive
Thanks.
Do you by any chance have a link to supported cards?
Do you know if this driver supports Composite? OpenGL?

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 20:32:06 +0100, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 06:29:51PM +0100, alive wrote:
  Any ATI card up to and including the 9250 (rv280) is fully supported
 on
  amd64, 3D and all. (I know because I've got one :-)
 
 Oh, is that so? Could you please tell me how you got it to work? Because
 I've got GREAT issues getting *ANY* ATI card to work with at least
 Composite on FreeBSD and/or Linux. And I've even got i386. Or has
 something
 happened since I last cried myself to sleep over this driverless hell?
 
 - Add the device radeondrm to you kernel config and recompile, or load
   the radeon.ko kernel module.
 - Install the xf86-video-ati driver (this is xorg 7.3!)
 - Load the right modules in xorg.conf;
 Section Module
 Loaddri
 Loadglx
 Loaddbe
 Loadextmod
 Loadfreetype
 Loadtype1
 EndSection
 - Use the radeon driver in xorg.conf:
 Section Device
 Identifier  Card0
 Driver  radeon
 #Option  AGPMode   8
 #Option  DDCMode   true
 EndSection
 
 That's about it, I think.
 
 Roland

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faster booting

2008-03-05 Thread Daniel Feenberg


We have several network services hosted on a FreeBSD system, and want it 
to come up quickly, so that these services (dhcp, nameservice, nis, tftp 
etc) are available when systems are restarting after a prolonged power 
failure.


That is, several times a year we have multi-hour power failures (generally 
starting at midnight because that is  utility maintainance time) and our 
UPSs run out of power. That is OK, but we would like the systems to come 
up when the power returns, without going to the server room and 
restarting systems in a prescribed order.


In most cases the clients hang because essential services are not 
available, and in most cases the clients do not proceed to boot later when 
the service does become available.


So, is there advice anywhere about speeding up the boot process? It 
appears that most of the 1 minute 45 seconds to boot our system is wait 
time for checking the existence of non-existant hardware and would not be 
appreciable reduced with a faster CPU or disk. Are there kernel options 
that we could use to avoid this checking? Would recompiling the kernel in 
some specialized way help? Would pico-bsd be faster?


About the only thing I can find is to reduce the 10 second boot screen 
delay - but we need to cut more than 30 seconds.


The server is statically configured but the clients obtain network 
configuration from dhcp and pxeboot with nfs mounted root directories. 
Clients are FreeBSD and Linux, and we are not eager to give up pxeboot as 
it has greatly simplified maintainance.


Any suggestions, pointers much appreciated.

Daniel Feenberg
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Re: faster booting

2008-03-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
checking the existence of non-existant hardware and would not be appreciable 
reduced with a faster CPU or disk. Are there kernel options that we could use


build custom kernel.
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Freebsd7, mail/mailman, www/apache22, and sendmail

2008-03-05 Thread Philip M. Gollucci

Issue:

The www/apache22 integration seems to be fine; however, the sendmail 
integration isn't quite right.


client computer:
$ echo `uname -a` | mail -s `date` [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mail Server:
/var/log/maillog
m25JwCEk065018: m25JwCEl065018: DSN: unknown mailer error 255

m25JwCEl065018: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:00 \
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=mailman, pri=32149,   \
relay=lists.p6m7g8.net, dsn=5.3.0, stat=unknown mailer error 255

m25JwCEm065018: return to sender: unknown mailer error 255

The setup:
-
/etc/make.conf
[snipped]

# SASL (cyrus-sasl v2) sendmail build flags...
SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2
SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib
SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2
# Adding to enable alternate port (smtps) for sendmail...
SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL

.if ${.CURDIR:M*/usr/ports/mail/mailman*}
WITH_SENDMAIL=  yes
WITH_HTDIG= yes
.endif

.if ${.CURDIR:M*/usr/ports/www/apache22*}
WITH_SSL= yes
WITH_APR_FROM_PORTS=  yes
WITH_FULLBUILD=   yes
WITH_MYSQL=   yes
WITH_PCRE_FROM_PORTS= yes

WITH_LOG_FORENSIC=yes
WITH_PROXY_CONNECT=   yes
WITH_PROXY_FTP=   yes
WITH_PROXY_HTTP=  yes
WITH_PROXY_AJP=   yes
WITH_PROXY_BALANCER=  yes

WITHOUT_MEM_CACHED=   yes
.endif

-
/var/db/pkg
[snipped]
apache-2.2.8
apr-nothr-1.2.8_2
bash-static-3.2.33
mailman-with-htdig-2.1.9_5
mysql-client-5.1.23
pcre-7.6
python25-2.5.2_1
cyrus-sasl-2.1.22
cyrus-sasl-saslauthd-2.1.22

users:
id mailnull
uid=26(mailnull) gid=26(mailnull) groups=26(mailnull)

id mailman
uid=91(mailman) gid=91(mailman) groups=91(mailman)

id www
uid=80(www) gid=80(www) groups=80(www)

-
/etc/mail/host.mc
[snipped]
define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/mail/aliases,/etc/mail/lists')

FEATURE(`smrsh')
FEATURE(mailertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable')
FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable')
VIRTUSER_DOMAIN(`lists.domain.tld')

dnl FEATURE(`limited_masquerade')
dnl MASQUERADE_AS(`lists.domain.tld')

Mmailman,   P=/etc/mail/mm-handler, F=rDFMhlqSu, U=mailman:mailman,
S=EnvFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL,
A=mm-handler $h $u

-
$ whereis smrsh
smrsh: /usr/libexec/smrsh

$ strings /usr/libexec/smrsh  | grep bin |head -1
/usr/libexec/sm.bin

$ ls -l /usr/libexec/sm.bin/
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  -   31B Mar  4 18:43:32 2008 mailman@ - 
/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman


$ ls -l /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
-rwxr-sr-x  1 root  mailman  -   15K Mar  4 12:45:40 2008 
/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman*


$ /usr/local/mailman sudo bin/check_perms -f
No problems found

$ cat /etc/mail/mailertable
lists.domain.tldmailman:lists.domain.tld

$ ls -l /etc/mail/mm-handler
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  -  5.8K Mar  4 19:10:53 2008 mm-handler*

-
/etc/rc.conf
[snipped]
sendmail_enable=YES
mailman_enable=YES
apache22_enable=YES
apache22_http_accept_enable=YES

-
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py
from Defaults import *

MTA = None

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.domain.tld'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.domain.tld'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'

-
/usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf
User www
Group www

/usr/local/etc/apache22/vhosts/tld.domain.lists.conf

VirtualHost *
ServerName lists.domain.tld

DocumentRoot/usr/local/mailman
Alias   /icons/ /usr/local/mailman/icons/

Alias   /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/
ScriptAlias /mailman/   /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/

ErrorLog  /usr/local/mailman/logs/httpd-error_log
CustomLog /usr/local/mailman/logs/httpd-access_log   common
CustomLog /usr/local/mailman/logs/httpd-combined_log combined

Directory /usr/local/mailman
  Options FollowSymLinks ExecCGI
  AllowOverride None
  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all
/Directory
/VirtualHost

-
$ uname -a
FreeBSD host.domain.tld 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #1: Sun Mar  2 
09:48:59 EST 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOST i386




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Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 09:22:35PM +0100, alive wrote:
 Thanks.
 Do you by any chance have a link to supported cards?

http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=59grp=2

Support for r300 based cards is coming as well.

 Do you know if this driver supports Composite? OpenGL?

It works with OpenGL. I haven't tried composite.

 On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 20:32:06 +0100, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 06:29:51PM +0100, alive wrote:
   Any ATI card up to and including the 9250 (rv280) is fully supported
  on
   amd64, 3D and all. (I know because I've got one :-)
  
  Oh, is that so? Could you please tell me how you got it to work? Because
  I've got GREAT issues getting *ANY* ATI card to work with at least
  Composite on FreeBSD and/or Linux. And I've even got i386. Or has
  something
  happened since I last cried myself to sleep over this driverless hell?
  
  - Add the device radeondrm to you kernel config and recompile, or load
the radeon.ko kernel module.
  - Install the xf86-video-ati driver (this is xorg 7.3!)
  - Load the right modules in xorg.conf;
  Section Module
  Loaddri
  Loadglx
  Loaddbe
  Loadextmod
  Loadfreetype
  Loadtype1
  EndSection
  - Use the radeon driver in xorg.conf:
  Section Device
  Identifier  Card0
  Driver  radeon
  #Option  AGPMode   8
  #Option  DDCMode   true
  EndSection
  
  That's about it, I think.

You'll also need to install the dri port for direct rendering to work.

And you'll need this in xorg.conf:

Section DRI
Mode 0666
EndSection

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Re: faster booting

2008-03-05 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Daniel Feenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 We have several network services hosted on a FreeBSD system, and want it 
 to come up quickly, so that these services (dhcp, nameservice, nis, tftp 
 etc) are available when systems are restarting after a prolonged power 
 failure.
 
 That is, several times a year we have multi-hour power failures (generally 
 starting at midnight because that is  utility maintainance time) and our 
 UPSs run out of power. That is OK, but we would like the systems to come 
 up when the power returns, without going to the server room and 
 restarting systems in a prescribed order.
 
 In most cases the clients hang because essential services are not 
 available, and in most cases the clients do not proceed to boot later when 
 the service does become available.
 
 So, is there advice anywhere about speeding up the boot process? It 
 appears that most of the 1 minute 45 seconds to boot our system is wait 
 time for checking the existence of non-existant hardware and would not be 
 appreciable reduced with a faster CPU or disk. Are there kernel options 
 that we could use to avoid this checking? Would recompiling the kernel in 
 some specialized way help? Would pico-bsd be faster?
 
 About the only thing I can find is to reduce the 10 second boot screen 
 delay - but we need to cut more than 30 seconds.
 
 The server is statically configured but the clients obtain network 
 configuration from dhcp and pxeboot with nfs mounted root directories. 
 Clients are FreeBSD and Linux, and we are not eager to give up pxeboot as 
 it has greatly simplified maintainance.
 
 Any suggestions, pointers much appreciated.

Three things I can think of:
* The 10 sec boot delay, which you already mentioned
* Make sure the wait time for SCSI devices is a low as reliably works.
  If it only has SCSI disks, this could probably very short, 1 sec or so
* Recompile your kernel removing any devices that don't exist in your
  hardware.

I'm not buying this, however.  My laptop boots in ~30 seconds with a
mostly stock kernel.  Please provide specific details as to what's
slowing it down.  Are you sure it's not a slow BIOS?  Many of the Dell
systems we have take several minutes with BIOS self-checks before the
OS even starts to boot.

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Re: faster booting

2008-03-05 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 05), Daniel Feenberg said:
 We have several network services hosted on a FreeBSD system, and want
 it to come up quickly, so that these services (dhcp, nameservice,
 nis, tftp etc) are available when systems are restarting after a
 prolonged power failure.
 
 That is, several times a year we have multi-hour power failures
 (generally starting at midnight because that is utility maintainance
 time) and our UPSs run out of power. That is OK, but we would like
 the systems to come up when the power returns, without going to the
 server room and restarting systems in a prescribed order.
 
 In most cases the clients hang because essential services are not
 available, and in most cases the clients do not proceed to boot later
 when the service does become available.
 
 So, is there advice anywhere about speeding up the boot process? It
 appears that most of the 1 minute 45 seconds to boot our system is
 wait time for checking the existence of non-existant hardware and
 would not be appreciable reduced with a faster CPU or disk. Are there
 kernel options that we could use to avoid this checking? Would
 recompiling the kernel in some specialized way help? Would pico-bsd
 be faster?

If it's a PCI system, removing unused drivers can't hurt, but if a
driver doesn't find a supported PCI ID on the system is usually exits
immediately.  But removing drivers for hardware that you have but don't
use might help more.  I know it takes a few seconds to scan for USB
devices even if none are connected, for example.  You can also set
kern.cam.scsi_delay=500 in loader.conf to take the settling time for
SCSI devices down to .5 sec instead of 2 sec per bus.  There's probably
a similar tunable for IDE/SATA controllers.  Best thing to do is watch
the console and eliminate drivers (or adjust timeouts) that seem to
cause the scrolling to stop :)
 
 About the only thing I can find is to reduce the 10 second boot screen 
 delay - but we need to cut more than 30 seconds.

There might actually be three boot delays: one from boot0 (the F1,F2,F3
boot menu), boot2 (the bootblock that loads /boot/loader), and the
loader.  You can remove the boot0 timeout with boot0cfg -t 0 or
simply replace it with a dumb mbr with fdisk -B.  boot2 can be sped
up by creating a boot.config file in your root directory with -n in
it, and you alreay know how to reduce /boot/loader's timeout.

Some of this is documented in the boot0cfg(8) and boot(8) manpages.

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Re: faster booting

2008-03-05 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 21:06:39 Daniel Feenberg wrote:

 About the only thing I can find is to reduce the 10 second boot screen
 delay - but we need to cut more than 30 seconds.

 The server is statically configured but the clients obtain network
 configuration from dhcp and pxeboot with nfs mounted root directories.
 Clients are FreeBSD and Linux, and we are not eager to give up pxeboot as
 it has greatly simplified maintainance.

 Any suggestions, pointers much appreciated.

Well, you could remove any hardware devices from the kernel, that you're sure 
you don't have nor going to get within the machine's lifetime. Nics and 
disk/raid controllers are good candidates.

However, this isn't really an exact science and you may not be able to cut the 
time you need. So you could of course make up for it, by *delaying* the 
dependant machines by 30-60 seconds. I'm sure that another 30-60 seconds on a 
multi-hour outage isn't gonna make a difference.

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Re: faster booting

2008-03-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 03:06:39PM -0500, Daniel Feenberg wrote:
snip
 So, is there advice anywhere about speeding up the boot process? It appears 
 that most of the 1 minute 45 seconds to boot our system is wait time for 
 checking the existence of non-existant hardware and would not be 
 appreciable reduced with a faster CPU or disk. Are there kernel options 
 that we could use to avoid this checking? Would recompiling the kernel in 
 some specialized way help?

You should build a custom kernel with only the devices and options that
you need in it. Starting from the GENERIC kernel config and with dmesg
output in hand you should be able to remove a lot of unneeded
drivers. For instance, probing a floppy drive takes relatively
long. Remove all network devices except the ones you actually use. Same
goes for the SCSI card drivers and RAID controllers. Do not mess with
the options lines unless you know what you're doing. And if you remove
device lines, look at its manual page to check that it is not a
prequisite for another driver that you do need. Do not remove the
devices random, loop, ether pty and md.

I always use 'makeoptions MODULES_OVERRIDE=' in my kernel config so
that no kernel modules are built or installed.

Another way to shorten boot time is to disable all unneeded services.

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SIGHUP and Program Flow in a 6.2 Application

2008-03-05 Thread Martin McCormick
A SIGHUP signal to a running process needs a signal
handler like

signal( SIGHUP ,startlogging);

What sort of end statement needs to be in the function
called to allow program execution to resume back in the main
caller?

I had put a return; statement in the function and
noticed that things were wrong after the application stopped
catching the SIGHUP after the first call.

A gdb trace shows that the signal causes a branch to the
code pointed to by the signal statement. The code runs and then
if it reaches the return; statement, the flow is lost and knows
not where to go next.

Thank you.


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Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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Re: faster booting

2008-03-05 Thread Daniel Feenberg



On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Bill Moran wrote:


In response to Daniel Feenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


We have several network services hosted on a FreeBSD system, and want it
to come up quickly, so that these services (dhcp, nameservice, nis, tftp
etc) are available when systems are restarting after a prolonged power
failure.

That is, several times a year we have multi-hour power failures (generally
starting at midnight because that is  utility maintainance time) and our
UPSs run out of power. That is OK, but we would like the systems to come
up when the power returns, without going to the server room and
restarting systems in a prescribed order.

In most cases the clients hang because essential services are not
available, and in most cases the clients do not proceed to boot later when
the service does become available.

So, is there advice anywhere about speeding up the boot process? It
appears that most of the 1 minute 45 seconds to boot our system is wait
time for checking the existence of non-existant hardware and would not be
appreciable reduced with a faster CPU or disk. Are there kernel options
that we could use to avoid this checking? Would recompiling the kernel in
some specialized way help? Would pico-bsd be faster?

About the only thing I can find is to reduce the 10 second boot screen
delay - but we need to cut more than 30 seconds.

The server is statically configured but the clients obtain network
configuration from dhcp and pxeboot with nfs mounted root directories.
Clients are FreeBSD and Linux, and we are not eager to give up pxeboot as
it has greatly simplified maintainance.

Any suggestions, pointers much appreciated.


Three things I can think of:
* The 10 sec boot delay, which you already mentioned
* Make sure the wait time for SCSI devices is a low as reliably works.
 If it only has SCSI disks, this could probably very short, 1 sec or so
* Recompile your kernel removing any devices that don't exist in your
 hardware.

I'm not buying this, however.  My laptop boots in ~30 seconds with a
mostly stock kernel.  Please provide specific details as to what's
slowing it down.  Are you sure it's not a slow BIOS?  Many of the Dell
systems we have take several minutes with BIOS self-checks before the
OS even starts to boot.


The BIOS time isn't terrible - BTX shows up on the console within 15 
seconds. The major delays happen when the last console message is about 
atapci: (25 seconds) and ad2: (15 seconds).


Daniel Feenberg




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where are base, info, kernels, dict, doc, games, manpages, ports, src, etc. for 7.0-REL?

2008-03-05 Thread William Bulley
I can't seem to find the distributions listed in
the Subject: line on any of the 7.0-RELEASE ISO images.

What am I missing?

I know the 7.0-RELEASE announcement says the bootable
ISO can be used along with FTP to finish the install, but
I can't get FTP (or passive FTP, for that matter) to work
as it has in the past.  I am behind a m0n0wall firewall,
but I believe I have used passive FTP in the past to get
around that problem.  I even opened up the firewall with
a pass all rule, but it still didn't work.  It looked
like it could not resolve ftp.freebsd.org or ftp9.freebsd.org
since it hung there trying to connect with... until it
gave up.  I tried several different (known good) DNS server
IP addresses, but nothing worked.

Then I went looking for the distributions in the ISO
images.  Not finding them there either has really had
a negative impact on my install today, sigh...   :-(

Regards,

web...

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Re: faster booting

2008-03-05 Thread Martin McCormick
I second the statement about BIOS checks taking a long
time. After working with many FreeBSD boxes, mostly Dells and a
few IBM servers, they can take forever (2 to 3 minutes) which
seems like forever when one is trying to get back on line quickly.
If one is using a serial console, the \|/-\|/- of the
kernel loading doesn't start until most of that time is gone. I
am guessing the actual FreeBSD kernel bootup is maybe 30 seconds
or so. If you have a SCSI bus, be sure the settling time built
in to the boot process is as short as will still work correctly.
Earlier versions of FreeBSD waited 15 seconds default. I safely
got it down to 1.5 seconds and might have even gotten it shorter
if I really knew how long it took the bus to settle.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
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Re: faster booting

2008-03-05 Thread Roger Olofsson



Martin McCormick skrev:

I second the statement about BIOS checks taking a long
time. After working with many FreeBSD boxes, mostly Dells and a
few IBM servers, they can take forever (2 to 3 minutes) which
seems like forever when one is trying to get back on line quickly.
If one is using a serial console, the \|/-\|/- of the
kernel loading doesn't start until most of that time is gone. I
am guessing the actual FreeBSD kernel bootup is maybe 30 seconds
or so. If you have a SCSI bus, be sure the settling time built
in to the boot process is as short as will still work correctly.
Earlier versions of FreeBSD waited 15 seconds default. I safely
got it down to 1.5 seconds and might have even gotten it shorter
if I really knew how long it took the bus to settle.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer

OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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I tend to not reboot machines...FreeBSD somehow makes that possible. But 
If I do a shutdown there's the CTRL-D to get it back up fast


Just my nickels worth.

/R

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Re: SIGHUP and Program Flow in a 6.2 Application

2008-03-05 Thread Derek Ragona

At 03:26 PM 3/5/2008, Martin McCormick wrote:

A SIGHUP signal to a running process needs a signal
handler like

signal( SIGHUP ,startlogging);

What sort of end statement needs to be in the function
called to allow program execution to resume back in the main
caller?

I had put a return; statement in the function and
noticed that things were wrong after the application stopped
catching the SIGHUP after the first call.

A gdb trace shows that the signal causes a branch to the
code pointed to by the signal statement. The code runs and then
if it reaches the return; statement, the flow is lost and knows
not where to go next.

Thank you.


Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group


Nothing needs to be in your handler function to continue running simply 
return from your function.  However, depending on the signal you may wish 
to call the original signal handler.  Signals like interrupts are chained 
linked lists of handlers.  You can choose to break the chain, and have only 
your handler called, or keep the chain intact calling the other handlers.


Read the man page on signal for more information.

-Derek

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Re: where are base, info, kernels, dict, doc, games, manpages, ports, src, etc. for 7.0-REL?

2008-03-05 Thread Sean Cavanaugh

are you using 7.0-RELEASE--bootonly.iso or 7.0-RELEASE--Disc1.iso

the later has the files on it and can be installed without any network 
connection at all.


-Sean



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Subject: where are base, info, kernels, dict, doc, games, manpages, 
ports,src, etc. for 7.0-REL?



I can't seem to find the distributions listed in
the Subject: line on any of the 7.0-RELEASE ISO images.

What am I missing?

I know the 7.0-RELEASE announcement says the bootable
ISO can be used along with FTP to finish the install, but
I can't get FTP (or passive FTP, for that matter) to work
as it has in the past.  I am behind a m0n0wall firewall,
but I believe I have used passive FTP in the past to get
around that problem.  I even opened up the firewall with
a pass all rule, but it still didn't work.  It looked
like it could not resolve ftp.freebsd.org or ftp9.freebsd.org
since it hung there trying to connect with... until it
gave up.  I tried several different (known good) DNS server
IP addresses, but nothing worked.

Then I went looking for the distributions in the ISO
images.  Not finding them there either has really had
a negative impact on my install today, sigh...   :-(

Regards,

web...

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Re: faster booting

2008-03-05 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Daniel Feenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Bill Moran wrote:
 
  In response to Daniel Feenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  We have several network services hosted on a FreeBSD system, and want it
  to come up quickly, so that these services (dhcp, nameservice, nis, tftp
  etc) are available when systems are restarting after a prolonged power
  failure.
 
  That is, several times a year we have multi-hour power failures (generally
  starting at midnight because that is  utility maintainance time) and our
  UPSs run out of power. That is OK, but we would like the systems to come
  up when the power returns, without going to the server room and
  restarting systems in a prescribed order.
 
  In most cases the clients hang because essential services are not
  available, and in most cases the clients do not proceed to boot later when
  the service does become available.
 
  So, is there advice anywhere about speeding up the boot process? It
  appears that most of the 1 minute 45 seconds to boot our system is wait
  time for checking the existence of non-existant hardware and would not be
  appreciable reduced with a faster CPU or disk. Are there kernel options
  that we could use to avoid this checking? Would recompiling the kernel in
  some specialized way help? Would pico-bsd be faster?
 
  About the only thing I can find is to reduce the 10 second boot screen
  delay - but we need to cut more than 30 seconds.
 
  The server is statically configured but the clients obtain network
  configuration from dhcp and pxeboot with nfs mounted root directories.
  Clients are FreeBSD and Linux, and we are not eager to give up pxeboot as
  it has greatly simplified maintainance.
 
  Any suggestions, pointers much appreciated.
 
  Three things I can think of:
  * The 10 sec boot delay, which you already mentioned
  * Make sure the wait time for SCSI devices is a low as reliably works.
   If it only has SCSI disks, this could probably very short, 1 sec or so
  * Recompile your kernel removing any devices that don't exist in your
   hardware.
 
  I'm not buying this, however.  My laptop boots in ~30 seconds with a
  mostly stock kernel.  Please provide specific details as to what's
  slowing it down.  Are you sure it's not a slow BIOS?  Many of the Dell
  systems we have take several minutes with BIOS self-checks before the
  OS even starts to boot.
 
 The BIOS time isn't terrible - BTX shows up on the console within 15 
 seconds. The major delays happen when the last console message is about 
 atapci: (25 seconds) and ad2: (15 seconds).

Funky.  That's a Looong time to wait for an ATA controller to determine
whether or not their's a disk attached.  Do you have an ad2?  If not,
you might want to check the BIOS to see if there's an option to disable
that particular part of the ATA chain to see if that speeds FreeBSD's
probe up.

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Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread aline



On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, alive wrote:


On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:13:03 +0100, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote:

I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating
installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some
problems.

My nvidia card will not be of much use (GeForce 8500GT), since

nvidia-drivers

are not there for amd64, and the open source nv driver does not even

support

XVideo extension for these cards. I can downgrade to a nv 7xxx series

card,

which works better with the open driver. I do not mind loss of 3D

support,

but would need basic things like mplayer.


Any ATI card up to and including the 9250 (rv280) is fully supported on
amd64, 3D and all. (I know because I've got one :-)

Oh, is that so? Could you please tell me how you got it to work? Because
I've got GREAT issues getting *ANY* ATI card to work with at least
Composite on FreeBSD and/or Linux. And I've even got i386. Or has something
happened since I last cried myself to sleep over this driverless hell?
--
Sincerely,
Rada

I own a Radeon 9600 pro and with the xf86-video-ati from git tree I can 
get 3D and even tv-out through xrandr. I believe that that the new 6.8.0 
(which still is not in the ports tree) We'll gona be able to have 
everything (3D, tv-out) out-of-the-box in the same way as the git one.







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Re: where are base, info, kernels, dict, doc, games, manpages, ports, src, etc. for 7.0-REL?

2008-03-05 Thread William Bulley
According to Sean Cavanaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 are you using 7.0-RELEASE--bootonly.iso or 7.0-RELEASE--Disc1.iso
 
 the later has the files on it and can be installed without any network 
 connection at all.

Thanks.

I have 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso and burned it onto a CD-ROM,
but that didn't seem to work either.  I will try it again...

It is curious why the contents of the ISOs is not listed
somewhere.  The only way I could find to inspect them was:

# mdconfig -a -t vnode -f whatever.iso -u 0
# mount -t cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt

which is from section 18.6.2 of the Handbook.

Regards,

web...

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RE: where are base, info, kernels, dict, doc, games, manpages, ports, src, etc. for 7.0-REL?

2008-03-05 Thread Terry Sposato
Hi William,

Look here -- ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-amd64/7.0

That is where I obtained the ISO's from.

Regards,

Terry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Bulley
Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2008 8:43 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: where are base, info, kernels, dict, doc, games, manpages, ports,
src, etc. for 7.0-REL?

I can't seem to find the distributions listed in
the Subject: line on any of the 7.0-RELEASE ISO images.

What am I missing?

I know the 7.0-RELEASE announcement says the bootable
ISO can be used along with FTP to finish the install, but
I can't get FTP (or passive FTP, for that matter) to work
as it has in the past.  I am behind a m0n0wall firewall,
but I believe I have used passive FTP in the past to get
around that problem.  I even opened up the firewall with
a pass all rule, but it still didn't work.  It looked
like it could not resolve ftp.freebsd.org or ftp9.freebsd.org
since it hung there trying to connect with... until it
gave up.  I tried several different (known good) DNS server
IP addresses, but nothing worked.

Then I went looking for the distributions in the ISO
images.  Not finding them there either has really had
a negative impact on my install today, sigh...   :-(

Regards,

web...

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sata slave on intel ICH7

2008-03-05 Thread Dane Miller
Hi,

FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE detects one of my three SATA disks as ata2-slave.
I thought SATA did away with the master/slave ugliness of PATA. 

Thinking maybe this was misleading output from FreeBSD, I did some
concurrent writes using dd.  Sure enough, I see poor performance on
concurrent writes to ad4 and ad5 (ata2-master and ata2-slave), while I
see good performance on concurrent writes to ad4 and ad6 (ata2-master,
ata3-master).  I can provide more details on the write tests I
performed, but I'm more interested in *why* FreeBSD detects one of my
SATA disks as a slave...

Here are some details:

6.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE #0 i386
Motherboard: Intel S3000AH
BIOS: SATA Mode is set to Enhanced (as opposed to Legacy)

# atacontrol list
ATA channel 0:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 1:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 2:
Master:  ad4 WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0/02.01C03 Serial ATA II
Slave:   ad5 WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0/02.01C03 Serial ATA II
ATA channel 3:
Master:  ad6 WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0/02.01C03 Serial ATA II
Slave:   no device present

# grep -i ata /var/run/dmesg.boot 
atapci0: Intel ICH7 UDMA100 controller port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x30b0-0x30bf irq 18 at device 31.1
on pci0
ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
atapci1: Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller port
0x30c8-0x30cf,0x30e4-0x30e7,0x30c0-0x30c7,0x30e0-0x30e3,0x30a0-0x30af
mem 0x8820-0x882003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0
ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci1
ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci1
ad4: 238475MB WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 02.01C03 at ata2-master SATA150
ad5: 238475MB WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 02.01C03 at ata2-slave SATA150
ad6: 238475MB WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 02.01C03 at ata3-master SATA150

Any guidance on this would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks,
Dane

-- 
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Systems Administrator
Greatschools, Inc
http://www.greatschools.net

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USB Wireless card for an access point

2008-03-05 Thread Ross Penner
Hi list,

I currently have a FreeBSD machine that acts as a router and
fileserver for my local home network. I'm hoping to set up a wireless
access point so I don't have to steal my neighbour's wireless. The PC
I'm using for FreeBSD has no free PCI slots so I'm forced to settle
for a USB device. I'm hoping you all can suggest to me some models
that have worked for you as an access point. If it counts, I'll be
running FreeBSD 7.

Thanks for any suggestions,

Ross
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Re: faster booting

2008-03-05 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Bill Moran wrote:


So, is there advice anywhere about speeding up the boot process? It
appears that most of the 1 minute 45 seconds to boot our system is wait
time for checking the existence of non-existant hardware and would not be
appreciable reduced with a faster CPU or disk. Are there kernel options
that we could use to avoid this checking? Would recompiling the kernel in
some specialized way help? Would pico-bsd be faster?

About the only thing I can find is to reduce the 10 second boot screen
delay - but we need to cut more than 30 seconds.

The server is statically configured but the clients obtain network
configuration from dhcp and pxeboot with nfs mounted root directories.
Clients are FreeBSD and Linux, and we are not eager to give up pxeboot as
it has greatly simplified maintainance.

Any suggestions, pointers much appreciated.

Three things I can think of:
* The 10 sec boot delay, which you already mentioned
* Make sure the wait time for SCSI devices is a low as reliably works.
 If it only has SCSI disks, this could probably very short, 1 sec or so
* Recompile your kernel removing any devices that don't exist in your
 hardware.

I'm not buying this, however.  My laptop boots in ~30 seconds with a
mostly stock kernel.  Please provide specific details as to what's
slowing it down.  Are you sure it's not a slow BIOS?  Many of the Dell
systems we have take several minutes with BIOS self-checks before the
OS even starts to boot.
The BIOS time isn't terrible - BTX shows up on the console within 15 
seconds. The major delays happen when the last console message is about 
atapci: (25 seconds) and ad2: (15 seconds).


Funky.  That's a Looong time to wait for an ATA controller to determine
whether or not their's a disk attached.  Do you have an ad2?  If not,
you might want to check the BIOS to see if there's an option to disable
that particular part of the ATA chain to see if that speeds FreeBSD's
probe up.


Let's be sure of this, though; are we actually talking about an ATA
controller issue?  The phrase last console message doesn't necessarily
mean it's the ATA controller, but whatever is *next* in the bootup 
process, AFAICT, *after* the probe of /dev/ad2, which, on my systems

is the mounting of the root filesystem.

OTOH, turning off BIOS probes for disks that don't exist is
a good idea, IMHO.

Kevin Kinsey
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Re: faster booting

2008-03-05 Thread Daniel Feenberg



On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Kevin Kinsey wrote:


Bill Moran wrote:


So, is there advice anywhere about speeding up the boot process? It
appears that most of the 1 minute 45 seconds to boot our system is wait
time for checking the existence of non-existant hardware and would not 
be

appreciable reduced with a faster CPU or disk. Are there kernel options
that we could use to avoid this checking? Would recompiling the kernel 
in

some specialized way help? Would pico-bsd be faster?

About the only thing I can find is to reduce the 10 second boot screen
delay - but we need to cut more than 30 seconds.

The server is statically configured but the clients obtain network
configuration from dhcp and pxeboot with nfs mounted root directories.
Clients are FreeBSD and Linux, and we are not eager to give up pxeboot 
as

it has greatly simplified maintainance.

Any suggestions, pointers much appreciated.

Three things I can think of:
* The 10 sec boot delay, which you already mentioned
* Make sure the wait time for SCSI devices is a low as reliably works.
 If it only has SCSI disks, this could probably very short, 1 sec or so
* Recompile your kernel removing any devices that don't exist in your
 hardware.

I'm not buying this, however.  My laptop boots in ~30 seconds with a
mostly stock kernel.  Please provide specific details as to what's
slowing it down.  Are you sure it's not a slow BIOS?  Many of the Dell
systems we have take several minutes with BIOS self-checks before the
OS even starts to boot.
The BIOS time isn't terrible - BTX shows up on the console within 15 
seconds. The major delays happen when the last console message is about 
atapci: (25 seconds) and ad2: (15 seconds).


Funky.  That's a Looong time to wait for an ATA controller to determine
whether or not their's a disk attached.  Do you have an ad2?  If not,
you might want to check the BIOS to see if there's an option to disable
that particular part of the ATA chain to see if that speeds FreeBSD's
probe up.


Let's be sure of this, though; are we actually talking about an ATA
controller issue?  The phrase last console message doesn't necessarily
mean it's the ATA controller, but whatever is *next* in the bootup process, 
AFAICT, *after* the probe of /dev/ad2, which, on my systems

is the mounting of the root filesystem.


Yes, there is an ad2 - it is the root filesystem, but given the point made 
above, it might be that the best thing to do is put that on a faster 
device. It is currently on a 2.5 drive that was selected to reduce power 
consumption and make the UPS last longer. Maybe a thumb drive would be 
better.


As for the suggestion that we delay the clients, we plan to enable memory 
testing in the BIOS of the clients to delay the first request for dhcp 
services. Any delays placed later in the boot sequence won't help with the 
problem.


Dan Feenberg




OTOH, turning off BIOS probes for disks that don't exist is
a good idea, IMHO.

Kevin Kinsey


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Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Isaac Mushinsky
Thanks everyone, based on the info I am returning the nvidia card and
getting an R4xx instead (found an X850 for under $80 still sold; seems to be
well enough supported). I still want to try amd64; other limitations do not
bother me that much (I do not care for wine or win32 codecs).
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VPN - Which way to go?

2008-03-05 Thread Alphons Fonz van Werven

Howdy people,

I need to setup a VPN connection to the university's network. Now, there's a
chapter in the handbook about VPN over IPsec and there seems to be this
thing called OpenVPN in the ports collection. Which is the better way to go?
All I need is to obtain an IP address within the university's IP range
(because otherwise I can't use their outgoing STMP), that's all. So as
simple a solution as possible would be preferred.

Suggestions are welcome.

Alphons

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Re: faster booting

2008-03-05 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 05), Daniel Feenberg said:
 As for the suggestion that we delay the clients, we plan to enable
 memory testing in the BIOS of the clients to delay the first request
 for dhcp services. Any delays placed later in the boot sequence won't
 help with the problem.

Another option could be to place this machine on a dedicated UPS of its
own with a larger battery to ensure that it stays up even after your
site UPS fails.  APC's web page has a page that can suggest a UPS based
on server type and uptime requirements.  If it's a small enough server,
you can get 24 hours out of a $1500 1KVA UPS.

http://www.apcc.com/tools/ups_selector/index.cfm

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Re: VPN - Which way to go?

2008-03-05 Thread D Hill

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 at 23:21 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated:


Howdy people,

I need to setup a VPN connection to the university's network. Now, there's a
chapter in the handbook about VPN over IPsec and there seems to be this
thing called OpenVPN in the ports collection. Which is the better way to go?
All I need is to obtain an IP address within the university's IP range
(because otherwise I can't use their outgoing STMP), that's all. So as
simple a solution as possible would be preferred.

Suggestions are welcome.


We have a Cisco VPN set up where our servers are being colocated. I'm 
using vpnc:


  /usr/ports/security/vpnc

The configuration file has IPSec set up using its parameters:

  IPSec gateway
  IPSec ID
  IPSec obfuscated secret

Don't know if this helps or not.

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Re: LDAP user authentication?

2008-03-05 Thread perikillo
  Hi Jon.

  Look i'm in your situation, searching for documents about this
authentication stuff, i have follow this threat, i just want to know
if u already have done this and what was your results.

  Thanks!!!

On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 05:45:33PM -0500, Darek M. wrote:
   Jon Theil Nielsen wrote:
   I have googled for a very long time, but I haven't found any useful
   howto on this issue. Well, there is
   
 http://www.cultdeadsheep.org/FreeBSD/docs/Quick_and_dirty_FreeBSD_5_x_and_nss_ldap_mini-HOWTO.html
   but that seems to be a bit confusing an not up-to-date. I guess it
   _should_ be possible - and indeed very useful (especially combinde
   with Samba PDC and an easily maintainlable mail server). So please, if
   you have any experiences or knowledge of a useful description..!
   
   Regards,
   Jon Theil Nielsen
  
   At the risk of a thread-jack...
  
   how are home directories handled?  Will 'user' have a home dir on the
   local system?  I suppose once LDAP is set up properly, you can then
   create the home dir, then chown it 'user', with 'user' not being a local
   user and not in passwd/master.passwd files.  So when you chown/chgrp,
   those commands go through pam/nss/ldap to retrieve the proper id and
   name from the LDAP server?

  There's security/pam_mkhomedir, which should do what you want.


  Cheers.
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multiple CPUs and vmstat

2008-03-05 Thread Steven Friedrich
I'm running 7.0 on i386.

I'd like to see multiple cpu stats in vmstat.
vmstat
 procs  memory  page   disk   faults  cpu
 r b w avmfre   flt  re  pi  pofr  sr ad0   in   sy   cs us sy id
 0 0 0  398000  77144  7298   1   1   0  5686  12   0  117 18938 1758 32 11 58

The formatting got whacked, sorry.

I looked at several man pages and couldn't find any other stat program that 
showed multiple processors.

I have a system monitor running under SuperKaramba, but on a Hyperthreaded 
system, it shows both processors with identical CPU percentages.  I had sent 
a bug report to KDE, but the guy that picked it up couldn't understand my 
point.  Which is, since a hyperthreaded CPU is actually two pipelines sharing 
a common execution unit, the best it could be doing is complementary 
precents, i.e., if one CPU is 60% utilized, then the other CPU couldn't be 
any better than 40 % utilized.
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Konqueror Storage Media requires View...Refresh

2008-03-05 Thread Steven Friedrich
The first time I open my desktop System icon, and select Storage Media, I have 
to select View...Refresh to see anything.

Is this the way it works on everyone else's system, or do I need to configure 
something?

It's not a big deal, just wondering if I can fix it by configuration.
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