Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
Hello ! It would be desirable to learn from experienced users OS - why FreeBSD does not concern the category serious systems at the overwhelming majority of manufacturers of hardware. More recently there were times when anybody from manufacturers did not notice Linux. However now it is possible to find a few companies who does not write drivers Linux for the products. Has really problem only in small user-base? More recently for example I addressed in a support service of one very large company who making a servers. The question has been connected with incorrectly working equipment. When me have asked Whats there OS on harware and having received answer FreeBSD, they have given out put normal OS - their list is at us on a site and then we will respond on yours ticked. It is very strange to hear similar things if to consider that by data netcraft and to other sources of information FreeBSD is the favourite at a number of large organisations ISP. It seems to me vendors are afraid of that FreeBSD has stable Core no structure. And if the constant collective of the developers working for the paid standard working days of 5 days in week has been generated - who would give support FreeBSD - people would concern serious OS and they would not have a feeling of incomprehensibility about the future and perspectivity FreeBSD. The salary to these programmers can be collected through donations or - perhaps to let out the commercial project on the basis of FreeBSD - for example the complete well adjusted distribution kit for servers or desktop - as PCBSD command does. And it is still possible - somewhere to publish base loyal vendors - good and evil in relation to FreeBSD. In number good to bring those who by own strength accompanies FreeBSD drivers the equipment. For example I know from such - 3Ware letting out controllers. Nvidia graphics card for i386. I very much love FreeBSD as OS, but unfortunately people have no correct representation about it. Where the truth. Thanks WBR! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
manufacturers of hardware. More recently there were times when anybody from because managers/bosses concentrate on majority, not minority of users. manufacturers did not notice Linux. However now it is possible to find a few given out put normal OS - their list is at us on a site and then we will i recommend you to find normal shop to buy hardware, that allow you to fully test computer before buying. if you think there are larger (even hundreds means larger) start selling FreeBSD compatible computers in your area! You could make money on that, many people will easily spend 100$ more for computer that is already tested 100% FreeBSD compatible. All you have to do is to test/check lots of different parts of hardware if it actually work with FreeBSD fine, and make computers from that parts. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD /dev/fd0
I am having issues configuring and using my external floppy drive on FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE. It's a parallel port floppy drive. /dev/fd0 is not present and dmesg shows fdc0: floppy drive controller (FDE) port 0x3f2-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FILTER] when using dmesg | grep fd parallel port is working properly and I can read/write from it. is parallel floppy supported by FreeBSD? i don't think so. what you see in dmesg is standard builtin floppy controller, often present on chipset. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adding Static Routes - Tricky situation
Hello list, I have a situation where I am connecting two sites using mpd. mpd5 is running at site A on server mode while mpd5 is also running on site B but on initiator mode. Site B establishes a connection to site B to complete the tunnel. This works so far, and users on the LAN on site B are able to reach site A. Now I'd like to enable users on site A to also reach site B side of the LAN, but I don't see where in mpd I can do it. After some little thinking, I have noticed that I can add a static route definition to site A from site A, but this route can only be added when the tunnel interface is up. So far, I have assumed that in 120secs after (re)booting the server on site A, and assuming server on site B is up, it will be able to (re)establish the vpn connection to site A, and thus ng0 will be up. With that in mind, I am running a small primitive script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ng0.sh that: sleep 120 /sbin/route add -net a.b.c.d/24 -iface ng0 This is working, but it is quote primitive for me. I'd like this script to run based on the following conditions: 1. That mpd is started successfully 2. That ng0 is up Site A is FreeBSD 5.5-STABLE (yeah, I will soon upgrade it) while site B is FreeBSD-7.1-PRE, so both sides should support rcNG type scripts. Appreciate your help on how I can check for the two conditions. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Okay guys. This is Kenya. You pay taxes because you feel philanthropic, unlike our MPs! -- Kenneth Marende, Speaker, 10th Parilament. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD /dev/fd0
As it has been mentioned before, it's questionable if there is any support for parallel floppy disk drives in FreeBSD. But there is support for USB driven external floppies, this is done via the ufd driver. On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:32:36 -0500, Cynical Nihilist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am having issues configuring and using my external floppy drive on FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE. It's a parallel port floppy drive. /dev/fd0 is not present and dmesg shows fdc0: floppy drive controller (FDE) port 0x3f2-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FILTER] when using dmesg | grep fd Correct, this is at least a floppy disk controller (fdc) which seems to be present in the chipset of your mainboard, but this doesn't neccessarily imply that there are any floppy drives. parallel port is working properly and I can read/write from it. You could write a pdf driver on your own. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Locked myself out.. AGAIN!!
On this dedicated box here I made the mistake of adding a comment to root's entry in my password file: root:*:0:0::/root:/bin/sh # What I thought would be a harmless comment. Now I can't su to root. And my ISP is closed on Sundays. Is there any way I can fix this on my own? Thanks y'all! -- http://www.home.no/reddvinylene ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locked myself out.. AGAIN!!
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Redd Vinylene [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On this dedicated box here I made the mistake of adding a comment to root's entry in my password file: root:*:0:0::/root:/bin/sh # What I thought would be a harmless comment. Now I can't su to root. And my ISP is closed on Sundays. Is there any way I can fix this on my own? Do you have sudo ? If yes (re)edit the file and change it back how it was. If not others might come with some opinions :|. a great day. v Thanks y'all! -- http://www.home.no/reddvinylene ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locked myself out.. AGAIN!!
Thanks guys. But I guess I'm all outta luck: $ sudo -s /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libutil.so.5 not found, required by sudo On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Glen Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 5:04 AM, Redd Vinylene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On this dedicated box here I made the mistake of adding a comment to root's entry in my password file: root:*:0:0::/root:/bin/sh # What I thought would be a harmless comment. This is why you shouldn't edit password files directly. Now I can't su to root. And my ISP is closed on Sundays. Is there any way I can fix this on my own? Do you have sudo installed? If not, your only other option is to boot into single user mode. But that won't help if you're not at the console. -- Glen Barber If you have any trouble sounding condescending, find a Unix user to show you how it's done. --Scott Adams -- http://www.home.no/reddvinylene ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locked myself out.. AGAIN!!
Redd Vinylene wrote: Thanks guys. But I guess I'm all outta luck: $ sudo -s /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libutil.so.5 not found, required by sudo [snip] Don't know if this would help but you might try creating a file called libmap.conf in /etc and place in it: libutil.so.5libutil.so.7 This would be for a 7.x box. You can always do ldconfig -r |grep libutil to look for the candidate for the entry for the right column above. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locked myself out.. AGAIN!!
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 06:02:26AM -0500, Michael Powell typed: Redd Vinylene wrote: Thanks guys. But I guess I'm all outta luck: $ sudo -s /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libutil.so.5 not found, required by sudo [snip] Don't know if this would help but you might try creating a file called libmap.conf in /etc and place in it: libutil.so.5 libutil.so.7 This advise is only helpful if you have root allready =) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locked myself out.. AGAIN!!
Ruben de Groot wrote: [snip] This advise is only helpful if you have root allready =) I've never figured out why people seem to always want to play with the root account the way they do, such as the favorite I wanna use bash for root's shell... Since the OP seems to want to keep playing with root he should probably consider giving the toor user a shell and password so he'll have another way to undo this nonsense. Suggestion for the future... -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locked myself out.. AGAIN!!
On Sun, December 7, 2008 11:04, Redd Vinylene wrote: On this dedicated box here I made the mistake of adding a comment to root's entry in my password file: root:*:0:0::/root:/bin/sh # What I thought would be a harmless comment. Now I can't su to root. And my ISP is closed on Sundays. Is there any way I can fix this on my own? Try `su -m` the man page says it will use your current shell instead of the one in passwd. good luck. Joost. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Error Kernel Compiling
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 12:08:12PM +0100, Federico Cicciarella wrote: My Machine i: ASUS P5N-E, Celeron D 440, 1 slot PCI 10\100 Realtek Configure Kenrel: machinei386 cpu I686_CPU ident ArrakisKernel makeoptions DEBUG=-g# Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET# InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options SCTP# Stream Control Transmission Protocol options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options UFS_GJOURNAL# Enable gjournal-based UFS journaling options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS# Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization options COMPAT_43TTY# BSD 4.3 TTY compat [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6 options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores Probably need: options SYSVSHM options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV# install a CDEV entry in /dev options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. options STOP_NMI# Stop CPUS using NMI instead of IPI options AUDIT # Security event auditing options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel device apic# I/O APIC device cpufreq device eisa device pci device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering device psm # PS/2 mouse device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support device sc device pmtimerport bus (required) typo above? device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci# UHCI PCI-USB interface device ohci# OHCI PCI-USB interface device ehci# EHCI PCI-USB interface (USB 2.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen# Generic device uhid# Human Interface Devices device ukbd# Keyboard device ulpt# Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device ural# Ralink Technology RT2500USB wireless NICs device rum # Ralink Technology RT2501USB wireless NICs device urio# Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player device uscanner# Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires miibus So where's miibus? device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet device cdce# Generic USB over Ethernet device cue # CATC USB Ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet # Pseudo devices. device loop# Network loopback device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory disks device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) What you
Re: QT4.5 packages
On Saturday 06 December 2008 22:19:32 matt donovan wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Warren Liddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can find many packages for several releases under ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386 ___ Yeah that was the first palced i checked, but there is only 4.4.1 and at the least i need 4.4.2, but a lot of things im now running require 4.5 an being as i can build them i goto add them from pkg .. im running AMD64 FreeBSD 7.1-PreRelease KDE 4.1.3 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qt4.5 has not been ported over yet but they are working on it. I may be missing something here but Qt 4.5 has not been released yet. It has not even reached beta yet (and there are still lots of regression with regards to KDE but the regressions should be fixed by the beta). Qt 4.4.2 is in area51, you can use the following command to get a working copy of the repository (oh and KDE 4.1.3 is also in area51): svn co https://kf.athame.co.uk/kde-freebsd/tags/kde_4_1 Regards signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Locked myself out.. AGAIN!!
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 5:04 AM, Redd Vinylene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On this dedicated box here I made the mistake of adding a comment to root's entry in my password file: root:*:0:0::/root:/bin/sh # What I thought would be a harmless comment. This is why you shouldn't edit password files directly. Now I can't su to root. And my ISP is closed on Sundays. Is there any way I can fix this on my own? Do you have sudo installed? If not, your only other option is to boot into single user mode. But that won't help if you're not at the console. -- Glen Barber If you have any trouble sounding condescending, find a Unix user to show you how it's done. --Scott Adams ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Error Kernel Compiling
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 08:02:33AM +0100, Federico Cicciarella wrote: linking kernel.debug if.o(.text+0x1027): In function `if_setlladdr': /usr/src/sys/net/if.c:2646: undefined reference to `arp_ifinit' igmp.o(.text+0x45): In function `igmp_sendpkt': /usr/src/sys/netinet/igmp.c:472: undefined reference to `loif' ip_output.o(.text+0xae9): In function `ip_output': /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_output.c:1196: undefined reference to `if_simloop' ip_output.o(.text+0xcfe):/usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_output.c:451: undefined reference to `loif' ip6_input.o(.text+0xedf): In function `ip6_input': /usr/src/sys/netinet6/ip6_input.c:254: undefined reference to `loif' ip6_output.o(.text+0x10a): In function `ip6_mloopback': /usr/src/sys/netinet6/ip6_output.c:3258: undefined reference to `if_simloop' ip6_output.o(.text+0x3bad): In function `ip6_output': /usr/src/sys/netinet6/ip6_output.c:845: undefined reference to `loif' nd6.o(.text+0x2d77): In function `nd6_rtrequest': /usr/src/sys/netinet6/nd6.c:1334: undefined reference to `loif' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Why? Probably because you've left something important on the networking side out of your kernel config. If you post your kernel config, then somebody maybe able to spot it. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 09:40:46 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: manufacturers of hardware. More recently there were times when anybody from because managers/bosses concentrate on majority, not minority of users. That is plain good business sense. As Willy Sutton once remarked to a reporter, Mitch Ohnstad, who asked why he robbed banks by saying, because that's where the money is. manufacturers did not notice Linux. However now it is possible to find a few given out put normal OS - their list is at us on a site and then we will i recommend you to find normal shop to buy hardware, that allow you to fully test computer before buying. Obvious, if you are buying a custom built unit. Maybe, even if you buying a generic unit. if you think there are larger (even hundreds means larger) start selling FreeBSD compatible computers in your area! You could make money on that, many people will easily spend 100$ more for computer that is already tested 100% FreeBSD compatible. All you have to do is to test/check lots of different parts of hardware if it actually work with FreeBSD fine, and make computers from that parts. The problem with the business design is what do you do if a customer wants a specific hardware device that FreeBSD does not support. The changes of that happening in Linux are much less, and with Windows, virtually never at all. IMHO, before FreeBSD can make a significant market share improvement, it has to improve its hardware support. NVidia, for one, has expressed a desire to support FreeBSD; however, it needs the FreeBSD organization to improve its basic product, especially in the 64-bit systems, which are the future of computing. -- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are ten or twenty basic truths, and life is the process of discovering them over and over and over. David Nichols signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: QT4.5 packages
I may be missing something here but Qt 4.5 has not been released yet. It has not even reached beta yet (and there are still lots of regression with regards to KDE but the regressions should be fixed by the beta). Qt 4.4.2 is in area51, you can use the following command to get a working copy of the repository (oh and KDE 4.1.3 is also in area51): svn co https://kf.athame.co.uk/kde-freebsd/tags/kde_4_1 Regards enterprise# portupgrade -aDkp [Updating the pkgdb format:bdb_btree in /var/db/pkg ... - 732 packages found (-0 +2) .. done] Stale dependency: akonadi-1.0.0 -- qt4-qtestlib-4.5.0.tp1 -- manually run 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force. My ports tree is run entirely from svn from area51, im also running KDE 4.1.3, i all ready have QT4.4.2 installed :) .. im looking to run the newer KDE 4.2 on a test machine hence why QT4.5 is needed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locked myself out.. AGAIN!!
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 11:04:00AM +0100, Redd Vinylene wrote: On this dedicated box here I made the mistake of adding a comment to root's entry in my password file: root:*:0:0::/root:/bin/sh # What I thought would be a harmless comment. Now I can't su to root. And my ISP is closed on Sundays. Is there any way I can fix this on my own? DO you have physical access to the machine? If so, force it to reboot - maybe by pulling the plug if you have to then bring it up in single user mode. Remount root mount -u / Then use vipw to edit the file and remove that comment and any trailing blanks on that line. Then reboot again. jerry Thanks y'all! -- http://www.home.no/reddvinylene ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem lauching Eclipse
Im trying to run last ports version of eclipse in FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE-p1 #0: Mon Nov 24 11:49:24 UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC It starts and ask for env place, i select /usr/home/myaccount then start loading all the modules, and when getting to the last step crashes and shows this: JVM terminated. Exit code=1 /usr/local/bin/java -Xms40m -Xmx256m -jar /usr/local/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.0.1.R33x_v20080118.jar -os freebsd -ws gtk -arch x86 -showsplash -launcher /usr/local/eclipse/eclipse -name Eclipse --launcher.library /usr/local/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.gtk.freebsd.x86_1.0.3.R33x_v20080118/eclipse_1023.so -startup /usr/local/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.0.1.R33x_v20080118.jar -exitdata 10002 -vm /usr/local/bin/java -vmargs -Xms40m -Xmx256m -jar /usr/local/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.0.1.R33x_v20080118.jar Someone got this problem before? any idea what is wrong? thanks for any help- Sdav ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Timer driven tasks in FreeBSD 7
Hi All, What mechanism should I use for making my netwrok driver call a function every half a second, for instnace? I am already using task queues but I haven't found a way to make it work with a timer. Thanks Yony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Timer driven tasks in FreeBSD 7
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:56:47 +0200, Yony Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, What mechanism should I use for making my netwrok driver call a function every half a second, for instnace? I am already using task queues but I haven't found a way to make it work with a timer. callout_xxx() functions should do the trick. See the timeout(9) manpage for more details. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
NVidia, for one, has expressed a desire to support FreeBSD; however, it needs the FreeBSD organization to improve its basic product, especially in the 64-bit systems, which are the future of computing. Does anyone know of any recent progress on a 64bit Nvidia Driver? there is mention of progress on this page http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41545page=24 Sam Fourman Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms...
versions. The packages for a particular branch tend to lag the updates by up to a couple of weeks although they are built continually. If you want to stay really up to date you need to keep your tree updated with portsnap or csup (part of the base system) and compile them yourself. Another advantage to compiling is you can choose options. The packages are always built with default options which is generally OK, but not always optimal. On a discussion note, wouldn't it be nice (and quite possible based on the frequency of vulnerability reports on vuxml) to have a sort of security branch for pre-built packages? What I mean is, if you use -RELEASE package repository, you get the benefit of a large number of pre-built packages at a cost of them not being up to date. On the other hand, building all the packages all the time (i.e. using -STABLE repository) results in the mentioned couple of weeks lag, probably due to the sheer number of ports available. So, it would be nice to have a sort of -SECURITY branch (much like it existed before freebsd-update became part of base system) and make a dedicated package repository where only packages with reported vulnerabilities in vuxml would get (promptly and regularly) rebuilt thus giving people options of doing binary up-to-date upgrading without inflicting too much load on the package building machines. Thoughts anyone? -- Nino ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
Does anyone know of any recent progress on a 64bit Nvidia Driver? there is mention of progress on this page http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41545page=24 most freebsd users don't need 3D at all, or don't need super-high-speed 3D. so simply don't use nvidia/ati ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locked myself out.. AGAIN!!
If so, force it to reboot - maybe by pulling the plug if you have to then bring it up in single user mode. CTRL-ALT-DEL shutdowns the system unless it was configured not to. Remount root mount -u / Then use vipw to edit the file and remove that comment and any trailing blanks on that line. Then reboot again. jerry Thanks y'all! -- http://www.home.no/reddvinylene ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
If only 3D or super-high-speed has been affected by this driver. Regrettably most application simple is not usable, like video-players, google-earth, KDE4 - all of that on my desktop station with 4Gb of RAM is looksworks like nightmare in vesa (xorg nv)-driver. And me too a very long time waiting for news from NV/BSD team. On Sunday 07 December 2008 21:18:08 Wojciech Puchar wrote: Does anyone know of any recent progress on a 64bit Nvidia Driver? there is mention of progress on this page http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41545page=24 most freebsd users don't need 3D at all, or don't need super-high-speed 3D. so simply don't use nvidia/ati ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On 12/7/08, Ole Vole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If only 3D or super-high-speed has been affected by this driver. Regrettably most application simple is not usable, like video-players, google-earth, KDE4 - all of that on my desktop station with 4Gb of RAM is looksworks like nightmare in vesa (xorg nv)-driver. And me too a very long time waiting for news from NV/BSD team. Simple solution: Pay them or someone to do it for you, or hack it yourself, or wait for it little longer. -- Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 08:29:32AM -0500, Jerry wrote: IMHO, before FreeBSD can make a significant market share improvement, it has to improve its hardware support. NVidia, for one, has expressed a desire to support FreeBSD; however, it needs the FreeBSD organization to improve its basic product, especially in the 64-bit systems, which are the future of computing. Please explain your use of the word improve in this context. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Mediocrity corrupts. Bureaucracy corrupts absolutely. pgpI1UyKLlAty.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 07:18:08PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: most freebsd users don't need 3D at all, or don't need super-high-speed 3D. Who is most freebsd users? I agree that there are more important things to worry about than nvidia/amd64 support, but: if you want to buy a computer these days and want to use it as a desktop/workstation with our favourite operating system, you have a serious problem to find a graphics card that is both useable and buyable. so simply don't use nvidia/ati Ok, what else then? Uwe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 07:18:08PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Does anyone know of any recent progress on a 64bit Nvidia Driver? there is mention of progress on this page http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41545page=24 most freebsd users don't need 3D at all, or don't need super-high-speed 3D. so simply don't use nvidia/ati That strikes me as short-sighted, narrow-minded, and self-fulfilling. 1. As long as there is not as much support for 3D accelerated graphics with FreeBSD, people who need 3D accelerated graphics will tend to use other OSes more often. 2. The fact that you apparently have some kind of zealous hatred of the idea of FreeBSD on the desktop doesn't mean there are not legitimate uses for FreeBSD on the desktop -- uses that may even include things like 3D accelerated graphics. Hell, I get better performance for WoW using Wine than I do on MS Windows. 3. There are uses for 3D accelerated graphics that don't even include desktop use. Rendering farms come to mind. The more you say Most FreeBSD users don't need 3D at all, so just use something else if you need 3D, and sweep the problem under the rug, the more likely we are to never have a FreeBSD that offers broad, stable support for 3D accelerated graphics. I would like it if you'd stop trying to convince people that my favorite OS shouldn't be improved. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Henry Spencer: Those who don't understand Unix are doomed to reinvent it, poorly. pgppp00o6muqI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: geli authentication algo and newfs weirdness
Vinny wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I've been reading up on geli and decided I wanted to
use data authentication. This involves the -a switch
on the geli init command. Here's what I've found:
= No authentication (the disk size is correct @ 152G):
the/root{143}~# geli init da1
Enter new passphrase:
Reenter new passphrase:
the/root{144}~# geli attach da1
Enter passphrase:
the/root{147}~# newfs -N /dev/da1.eli
/dev/da1.eli: 152627.8MB (312581804 sectors) block size 16384, fragment
size 2048
using 831 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes.
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
160, 376512, 752864, ...
the/root{148}~# newfs /dev/da1.eli
/dev/da1.eli: 152627.8MB (312581804 sectors) block size 16384, fragment
size 2048
using 831 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes.
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
160, 376512, 752864, 1129216, ...
= With hmac/sha256 (or any other) authentication
(small disk size 76G) :
the/root{156}~# geli init -a hmac/sha256 /dev/da1
Enter new passphrase:
Reenter new passphrase:
the/root{157}~#
the/root{157}~# geli attach da1
Enter passphrase:
the/root{159}~# newfs -N /dev/da1.eli
/dev/da1.eli: 76313.9MB (156290900 sectors) block size 16384, fragment
size 2048
using 416 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes.
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
160, 376512, 752864, ...
the/root{163}~# newfs /dev/da1.eli
/dev/da1.eli: 76313.9MB (156290900 sectors) block size 16384, fragment
size 2048
using 416 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes.
newfs: can't read old UFS1 superblock: read error from block device:
Invalid argument
the/root{110}~# geli dump -v da1
Metadata on da1:
magic: GEOM::ELI
version: 3
flags: 0x10
ealgo: AES-CBC
keylen: 128
aalgo: HMAC/SHA256
provsize: 160041885696
sectorsize: 512
keys: 0x01
iterations: 67988
Salt: c708
=
Anyone know what I've done wrong? Is data authentication working?
Thanks!
Vinny
The eventual solution came from Richard Farr. A few messages
later and here are the results:
I Wrote;
Hello Richard and Thanks! Sorry for my late reply.
Richard Farr wrote:
Hi Vinny,
I had this problem as well when trying to initialize a disk with GELI
and create slices/partitions/fs.
I believe the problem is caused because the sectors of the newly
created GELI device still have whatever data was in them from before
the geli init command. Therefore, this data will not have the
correct mac inside of the sector. It looks like newfs attempts to
read from some of these unitialized sectors - causing a mac
verification failure and a read error. In order to fix this, simply
attach the geli device and then use dd to write to all sectors of the
device to update them with a correct mac:
dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/da1.eli bs=8M
Once this is done newfs should work like a charm.
Indeed, the results follow, but I'd like to thank you
for the solution. I had habitually used dd on
the raw device before running geli init. That is,
dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/da2 bs=1m
Then I'd init it. Didn't occur to me that doing
that on the da2.eli device would solve the newfs
problem.
The results:
the/root{120}~# geli init -a hmac/sha256 /dev/da2
Enter new passphrase:
Reenter new passphrase:
the/root{121}~# geli attach da2
Enter passphrase:
the/root{122}~# newfs -N /dev/da2.eli
/dev/da2.eli: 977.0MB (2000876 sectors) block size 16384, fragment
size 2048
using 6 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes.
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
160, 376512, 752864, 1129216, 1505568, 1881920
the/root{123}~# newfs /dev/da2.eli
/dev/da2.eli: 977.0MB (2000876 sectors) block size 16384, fragment
size 2048
using 6 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes.
newfs: can't read old UFS1 superblock: read error from block device:
Invalid argument
the/root{124}~# dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/da2.eli bs=1m
load: 1.15 cmd: dd 96350 [physwr] 0.00u 30.56s 9% 1668k
747+0 records in
746+0 records out
782237696 bytes transferred in 322.992946 secs (2421841 bytes/sec)
dd: /dev/da2.eli: short write on character device
dd: /dev/da2.eli: end of device
977+0 records in
976+1 records out
1024450048 bytes transferred in 422.242968 secs (2426210 bytes/sec)
the/root{125}~# newfs -N /dev/da2.eli
/dev/da2.eli: 977.0MB (2000876 sectors) block size 16384, fragment
size 2048
using 6 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes.
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
160, 376512, 752864, 1129216, 1505568, 1881920
the/root{126}~# newfs /dev/da2.eli
/dev/da2.eli: 977.0MB (2000876 sectors) block size 16384, fragment
size 2048
using 6 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes.
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
160, 376512, 752864, 1129216, 1505568, 1881920
Success!
Vinny
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 20:35:17 +0100 Uwe Laverenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is most freebsd users? i would think most are interested in running servers or routers or possible scientific applications or engaged in os study and appreciate its simplicity and consistency. i don't think it can compete with linux in terms of some of the bells and whistles that the desktop offers, but imho, a lot of those bells ring out of tune and the whistles result in sore lips. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
Paul B. Mahol writes: Simple solution: Pay them or someone to do it for you, or hack it yourself, or wait for it little longer. Given nVidia has offered to write and maintain a driver ... if we're going this route, the correct solution is to pay someone to make the changes nVidia wants in the kernel. I don't understznd the vm system, but it's possible others might find those improvements useful as well. I'm not prepared to spec the project or organize the contributions; I _would_ probably be willing to make a donation. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locked myself out.. AGAIN!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Powell wrote: I've never figured out why people seem to always want to play with the root account the way they do, such as the favorite I wanna use bash for root's shell... Probably because most users are unaware of the harm that it causes. Perhaps someone should add a comment to the top of the passwd file (if there is such a thing as a comment in the file) saying: don't play with root. - -- Eitan Adler GNU Key fingerptrint: 2E13 BC16 5F54 0FBD 62ED 42B6 B65F 24AB E9C2 CCD1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk8M8kACgkQtl8kq+nCzNGO5ACfS4dUG+79aswbQoVEFU2y/e7f mxwAn1kVeE8sISKXSYeYcJBkQ97UjH4J =1Kra -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows
Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 12:20:49PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I don't even know if this has been done before, nor do I know for sure if it's a sound comparison. Never the less, someone posted, in response to someone else here just a few days ago, some very nice benchmarks provided by Kris ?Kenneway? I could be wrong on the last name, it just seems to me that's a last name I've seen with Kris frequently (my apologies Kris if I'm wrong). Using the URL that the other poster, posted, I poked around the other *.html files in that directory, but did not find any with FreeBSD pitted against windows. I'm just curious to see how it looks for my own sanity's sake. At work, someone got the grand idea that we should move to Windoze embedded (CE and XPe) and it's been quite discouraging I must say, though I must admit, it's nice to actually know why Windows is ugly underneath. From a programming perspective, it's just not simplistic. Anyway, I digress, I'm just curious to see how things compare to Windows on similar benchmarks to what Kris provided if its ever been done. I've done some benchmarking of Windows file system IO (NTFS) using known tools like bonnie++, blogbench and postmark under cygwin and the results are abysmal. It might be due to cygwin, and it might not. I've used Windows Enterprise Server 2003. You'll probably not find any difference in computational (numeric) tasks and fairly bad results in tasks that do a lot of system work. While the usefulness of such benchmarks may be suspect, I'd still be interested in seeing your results. I have a large spreadsheet full of them, but here's a selection. The benchmark is bonnie++: Win2003 R2 NTFSRAID10-15 87 25 113 6425 11990 Ubuntu Server 7.10 ext3RAID10-15 129 60 167 36114 72562 Ubuntu Server 7.10 JFS RAID10-15 131 64 167 6638 4855 Ubuntu Server 7.10 Reiser3 RAID10-15 130 60 159 30307 35101 Ubuntu Server 7.10 XFS RAID10-15 104 62 164 39 10 FreeBSD 7 UFS+SU RAID10-15 109 43 111 36551 9 FreeBSD 7 UFS+GJ RAID10-15 50 28 103 52460 46604 FreeBSD 7 ZFS RAID10-15 95 63 180 40522 20260 The first three columns describe the system RAID (e.g. RAID10-15 means RAID10 created from 4 15 kRPM drives), the next three are write/rewrite/read speed in MB/s, the last two are random files created/deleted. I hope the mailer doesn't destroy the formatting too much. This was on IBM ServeRAID 8k, 256 M BBU cache. (ZFS RAID was not used). FreeBSD UFS generally achieved low performance but it doesn't surprise me - I'd say its disk IO has a lot of performance problems right now. ZFS was very good, but not so much when compared to Linux file systems, especially for writing. I believe XFS was broken in that version of Linux so file creation deletion was garbage - it's normal in more recent versions. File systems were left at default except noatime was turned on where available. One thing where Linux's ext3 really shines is concurrent IO - blogbench (not present in the above table) was really bad in all other OS file system combination, so after all my results (I have 1000 of them), I'm really hoping for an ext3/4 port to FreeBSD :) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
NFS UDP MTU
Hello to you all, I have a question about sharing a directory over my subnet. I have users downloading up to 3-4 G per session and obviously speed is crucial. I am thinking of going with UDP (accuracy is not an issue here). What is the best way to go about this? Is NFS the right pick? If so should I use mount_nfs, ar there better utilities available? How about MTU; do I need to tweak the value for MTU on client machines? and if so what is the magic number? Thanks, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows
Win2003 R2 NTFSRAID10-15 87 25 113 6425 11990 Ubuntu Server 7.10 ext3RAID10-15 129 60 167 36114 72562 Ubuntu Server 7.10 JFS RAID10-15 131 64 167 6638 4855 Ubuntu Server 7.10 Reiser3 RAID10-15 130 60 159 30307 35101 Ubuntu Server 7.10 XFS RAID10-15 104 62 164 39 10 FreeBSD 7 UFS+SU RAID10-15 109 43 111 36551 9 FreeBSD 7 UFS+GJ RAID10-15 50 28 103 52460 46604 FreeBSD 7 ZFS RAID10-15 95 63 180 40522 20260 The first three columns describe the system RAID (e.g. RAID10-15 means RAID10 created from 4 15 kRPM drives), the next three are write/rewrite/read speed in MB/s, the last two are random files created/deleted. I hope the mailer doesn't destroy the formatting too could you compare raw device speed between linux and FreeBSD it looks like there is driver problem - low linear speed. ZFS was very good, but not so much when compared to Linux file systems, ZFS in your benchmart is similar to UFS. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows
Wojciech Puchar wrote: Win2003 R2NTFSRAID10-158725113642511990 Ubuntu Server 7.10ext3RAID10-1512960167 3611472562 Ubuntu Server 7.10JFSRAID10-15131641676638 4855 Ubuntu Server 7.10Reiser3RAID10-1513060159 3030735101 Ubuntu Server 7.10XFSRAID10-15104621643910 FreeBSD 7UFS+SURAID10-151094311136551 9 FreeBSD 7UFS+GJRAID10-1550281035246046604 FreeBSD 7ZFSRAID10-1595631804052220260 The first three columns describe the system RAID (e.g. RAID10-15 means RAID10 created from 4 15 kRPM drives), the next three are write/rewrite/read speed in MB/s, the last two are random files created/deleted. I hope the mailer doesn't destroy the formatting too could you compare raw device speed between linux and FreeBSD No, I don't have the system now. it looks like there is driver problem - low linear speed. I don't think so. It's *very* unlikely a driver can mess up linear speed - it's far more easier to mess up random IO. I don't know why it's so (it might be cause by FreeBSD's tiny MAXPHYS), but it's probably not the driver's fault. I've seen this behaviour with other controllers (including plain SATA). ZFS was very good, but not so much when compared to Linux file systems, ZFS in your benchmart is similar to UFS. Look at the read speed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
boot hangs on thinkpad x40
Hi, I recently installed FreeBSD 7.1-Beta2 on my IBM thinkpad X40. Everything works fine while the system is connected to the dock, but when I boot with the dock disconnected the system hangs. With verbose logging enabled it appears to hang at either acpi_cmbat or acpi_acad (they appear to run in parallel and which prints the last error message appears somewhat random). I've found several threads related to FreeBSD having difficulty with thinkpads that have the second ata enabled, so I've disabled that but am still having the same difficulty. Has anyone seen this behavior before? Any thoughts on how to fix it? Thanks, Jim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows
ZFS was very good, but not so much when compared to Linux file systems, ZFS in your benchmart is similar to UFS. Look at the read speed. it's faster on that benchmark. but i think low MAXPHYS may be a problem. i changed it to 1MB everywhere. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows
Wojciech Puchar schrieb: it's faster on that benchmark. but i think low MAXPHYS may be a problem. i changed it to 1MB everywhere. I've found that increasing vfs.read_max increases read performance quite a bit in bonnie++ benchmarks. sysctl vfs.read_max=32 Uwe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Driver Iwn in FreeBSD 7.1 ?
Hi list. Someone know if the driver iwn will be included officially in FreeBSD 7.1 ? -- Linux is for people who hate Windows, BSD is for people who love UNIX. Social Engineer - Because there is no patch for human stupidity The Unix Guru's View of Sex unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep. Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD kernel module and sending udp packets
Hello everyone. I need help with documentation concerning how to send a udp or tcp packet from a kernel module. I have found this information for Linux but not for FreeBSD. Please help me. Thank you :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD kernel module and sending udp packets
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Ferner Cilloniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. I need help with documentation concerning how to send a udp or tcp packet from a kernel module. I have found this information for Linux but not for FreeBSD. Please help me. Thank you :) I think that you should send this question to freebsd-net list (Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD) this is its url http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net -- Linux is for people who hate Windows, BSD is for people who love UNIX. Social Engineer - Because there is no patch for human stupidity The Unix Guru's View of Sex unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep. Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
