FreeBSD, quota

2009-02-19 Thread Pieter Donche

to be able to impose file and disk quotas on individual users
the kernel had to support it.

Is this supported in FreeBSD7 ? How can one check if which options
are supported?


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Re: World doesn't build correctly

2009-02-19 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:50:25 +0100, Frank Wißmann frank.wissman...@web.de 
wrote:
 Well, I used your settings of default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7, but 
 the answer is still this:
 FreeBSD grissom.einundvierzig.org 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: 
 Wed Feb 18 21:36:57 CET 2009 
 r...@grissom.einundvierzig.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GRISSOM  amd64
 
 Any ideas, folks? Or should I post something more?

may I ask how exactly you did the update? As it has mentioned
before, the handbook (even the german version) gives a good
routeplan for this.

In general:

# cd /usr/src
# make update
# make buildworld buildkernel KERNCONF=GRISSOM
# make installkernel KERNCONF=GRISSOM
# reboot
boot -s
fsck and mount -a
# cd /usr/src
# mergemaster -p
# make installworld
# mergemaster
# reboot

(Hope that's correct from my mind, check handbook anyway.)

Note that the configuration files mentioned above usually employ
the make update command from within /usr/src. Kernel and world
have to be the same version.

Oh yes, and check your /boot/loader.conf if eventually a previous
kernel is loaded, maybe you stored a spare kernel in /boot and
the loader loads this, instead of /boot/kernel/kernel? Just to be
sure... I mention this because I had a spare 6.0-GENERIC kernel
saved in /boot, a setting in /boot/loader.conf for some testing,
then updated the system (which affected /boot/kernel/kernel,
but not /boot/kernel/kernel.GENERIC which was instead loaded). :-)


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mail question

2009-02-19 Thread Valentin Bud
Hello community,

 I have a special question.

If a client sends an email through my server how can i stop the mail for
being delivered so
i can process the mail and change some things and afterward deliver it.

I have postfix + dovecot installed. Some suggestions ...

thanks,
v
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Re: mail question

2009-02-19 Thread Valentin Bud
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Valentin Bud valentin@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello community,

  I have a special question.

 If a client sends an email through my server how can i stop the mail for
 being delivered so
 i can process the mail and change some things and afterward deliver it.

 I have postfix + dovecot installed. Some suggestions ...

 thanks,
 v


Hello again,

 I guess i have found what i want. Postfix MILTER
http://www.postfix.org/MILTER_README.html.

So basically i create a filter in C, perl or something, I use it via STMP or
non-STMP. That
filter makes the necessary changes and afterwards i reinject the mail into
postfix.

If anybody has the time/chance to verify if I am right please let me know.

thanks,
v
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Re: FreeBSD, quota

2009-02-19 Thread Matias Surdi

Have you looked at the official documentation?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/book.html#QUOTAS



Pieter Donche wrote:

to be able to impose file and disk quotas on individual users
the kernel had to support it.

Is this supported in FreeBSD7 ? How can one check if which options
are supported?


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SOLVED: Re: Determining process preventing umount of busy partition

2009-02-19 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:44:31 -0900, Mel fbsd.questi...@rachie.is-a-geek.net 
wrote:
 Can you show mount -p before trying to unmount /usr? On the off-chance 
 /export 
 or /export/home is really a symlink to /usr/home (mount -p shows realpath(3) 
 for mounts).

Hm, I keep /home out of /usr, so there's only a symlink (for the
obvious compatibility reasons) /home@ - export/home.

BUT, and now the big surprise, maybe a possibility:

% mount -p
/dev/ad0s1a /   ufs rw  1 1
devfs   /devdevfs   rw  0 0
/dev/ad0s1d /tmpufs rw  2 2
/dev/ad0s1e /varufs rw  2 2
/dev/ad0s1f /usrufs rw  2 2
/dev/ad0s1g /export/homeufs rw  2 2
devfs   /var/named/dev  devfs   rw  0 0
linprocfs   /usr/compat/linux/proc  linprocfs   rw 
0 0
 Haha!!!

It seems that the linprocfs prevents umounting of /usr because its
mountpoint /usr/compat/linux/proc is de facto INSIDE /usr.

I've checked this while in SUM: When umounting linprocfs prior to
/usr, no problems occur.

I'll speak to Mr. Tritter so he can stop his investigations. Seems
that we found the reason.

Thanks for your help.

Seems that I'm too stupid to own a computer. :-)





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Re: SOLVED: Re: Determining process preventing umount of busy partition

2009-02-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar

that we found the reason.

Thanks for your help.

Seems that I'm too stupid to own a computer. :-)


i wish more people will be as stupid as you ;)
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Re: FreeBSD, quota

2009-02-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar

the kernel had to support it.

Is this supported in FreeBSD7 ? How can one check if which options
are supported?


 options QUOTA

man 7 ffs for more
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Re: Top Posting Mania [was Re: FreeBSD 7.O compiled code is very slow]

2009-02-19 Thread GESBBB
 From: Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au

[snip]
 
 Woj, I'm really surprised that you, of all people, seem lately to have 
 been converted to the Micro$oft Outlock-trained style of top-posting, 
 including tail-quoting all sorts irrelevant and repeated trailers etc, 
 after years of your (almost too- :) concise postings.
 
 This list is getting very hard to follow as a digest anymore, when half 
 of it or more is re-re-repeated overtailquoting of irrelevant trivia.  
 Please come back from the dark side ..

1) MS Outlook is not the only MUA that defaults to 'TOP POSTING'.

2) It is configurable in the newer versions

3) The lack of effort by many posters to trim a message prior to sending is 
equally annoying.

4) The insertion of legally unenforceable disclaimers, etc. is another big 
waste of space.

5) The use of HTML mail in a mail forum is absurd; however, it is commonly done 
(GMail).

6) One of my 'Pet Peeves: Morons who change a thread's subject rather than 
start a new one.

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NanoBSD :: smallest image size

2009-02-19 Thread Paul Procacci

Hello list,

I have an old machine I just acquired that I was thinking of replacing 
my current FreeBSD firewall/router with.  It's a Celeron 500+ Mhz 
machine with 32 Megs of ram, and a 10G hard drive.  I am(was) initially 
thinking about taking out the 10G, and using the flobby disk drive to 
boot off of.  I was familiar with PicoBSD years ago and know I could use 
that, but it seems that project has been discontinued.  After looking 
through archives to determine what to do, I can across nanoBSD as that 
seems to be included in the FreeBSD system by default, henceforth this 
question.  I couldn't find any information regarding the smallest image 
size possible using NanoBSD.  So the question is: can nanoBSD fw/ the 
proper configurations fit onto a floppy disk...and if not, is such an 
old computer bootable off of a usb stick?  How can I tell without buying 
one?


Thanks,
~Paul
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Re: mail question

2009-02-19 Thread Peter Boosten
Valentin Bud wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Valentin Bud valentin@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Hello community,

  I have a special question.

 If a client sends an email through my server how can i stop the mail for
 being delivered so
 i can process the mail and change some things and afterward deliver it.

 I have postfix + dovecot installed. Some suggestions ...

 thanks,
 v
 
 
 Hello again,
 
  I guess i have found what i want. Postfix MILTER
 http://www.postfix.org/MILTER_README.html.
 
 So basically i create a filter in C, perl or something, I use it via STMP or
 non-STMP. That
 filter makes the necessary changes and afterwards i reinject the mail into
 postfix.
 
 If anybody has the time/chance to verify if I am right please let me know.
 

Depending upon your wishes can MimeDefang (http://www.mimedefang.org/)
do a lot for you (without you having to code anything).

Peter

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Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size

2009-02-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I have an old machine I just acquired that I was thinking of replacing my 
current FreeBSD firewall/router with.  It's a Celeron 500+ Mhz machine with


quite powerfull machine, it will run smoothly full FreeBSD installed on 
hard drive. i think it's much better solution.

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Re: Top Posting Mania [was Re: FreeBSD 7.O compiled code is very slow]

2009-02-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar

5) The use of HTML mail in a mail forum is absurd; however, it is commonly done 
(GMail).

this is a problem - as GMail and similar things itself.


6) One of my 'Pet Peeves: Morons who change a thread's subject rather than 
start a new one.

was me sometimes by accident, but i do care now not doing this.
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desktop app/config

2009-02-19 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
Hi all,

I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the library
running FreeBSD- 

What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what config do I
need so that when the machine starts (power / boot)  it will automatically
launch the desktop gui




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Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size

2009-02-19 Thread Maciej Milewski
Thursday 19 February 2009 15:07:50 Paul Procacci napisał(a):
 After looking
 through archives to determine what to do, I can across nanoBSD as that
 seems to be included in the FreeBSD system by default, henceforth this
 question.  I couldn't find any information regarding the smallest image
 size possible using NanoBSD.  So the question is: can nanoBSD fw/ the
 proper configurations fit onto a floppy disk...and if not, is such an
 old computer bootable off of a usb stick?  How can I tell without buying
 one?
I think that it will be quite hard to make it running from floppy. If you don't 
want to install it on this HD (f.ex. because of noise) then you can replace 
HDD with Disk-On-Module or CF card with CF-IDE adapter.
With booting from usb on such rather old computers I had so many problems that 
I went for other options like these mentioned above.

Maciek
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Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size

2009-02-19 Thread Paul Procacci

Wojciech Puchar wrote:
I have an old machine I just acquired that I was thinking of replacing my 
current FreeBSD firewall/router with.  It's a Celeron 500+ Mhz machine with



quite powerfull machine, it will run smoothly full FreeBSD installed on 
hard drive. i think it's much better solution.
  


Yeah, I realize it's more powerful than necessary to handle the 
task...though my current firewall/router is a 860+ Mhz PIII w/ 128 Megs 
of ram.  So, this would be a downgrade for my current firewall/router 
which allows me to repurpose the existing machine for something more 
computationally expensive.


Still though, I like information requested on nanoBSD (can it fit on a 
floppy), and how if booting off a usb stick is doable.  I imagine this 
has to do with later bios's...or not?


Thanks!
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Re: desktop app/config

2009-02-19 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Jean-Paul Natola jnat...@familycareintl.org:

 Hi all,
 
 I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the library
 running FreeBSD- 
 
 What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what config do I
 need so that when the machine starts (power / boot)  it will automatically
 launch the desktop gui

Both KDE and Gnome should feel pretty familiar to an XP user.  The
handbook has some useful docs:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html

See the section about the kde display manager for example.

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Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size

2009-02-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Yeah, I realize it's more powerful than necessary to handle the task...though 
my current firewall/router is a 860+ Mhz PIII w/ 128 Megs of ram.  So, this 
would be a downgrade for my current firewall/router which allows me to 
repurpose the existing machine for something more computationally expensive.


so - downgrade. FreeBSD easily runs (full, not stripped) on 32MB RAM
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Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size

2009-02-19 Thread Paul Procacci

Maciej Milewski wrote:

Thursday 19 February 2009 15:07:50 Paul Procacci napisał(a):
  

After looking
through archives to determine what to do, I can across nanoBSD as that
seems to be included in the FreeBSD system by default, henceforth this
question.  I couldn't find any information regarding the smallest image
size possible using NanoBSD.  So the question is: can nanoBSD fw/ the
proper configurations fit onto a floppy disk...and if not, is such an
old computer bootable off of a usb stick?  How can I tell without buying
one?

I think that it will be quite hard to make it running from floppy. If you don't 
want to install it on this HD (f.ex. because of noise) then you can replace 
HDD with Disk-On-Module or CF card with CF-IDE adapter.
With booting from usb on such rather old computers I had so many problems that 
I went for other options like these mentioned above.


Maciek
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This information was precisely what I was looking for.  Thank you.

~Paul
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Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size

2009-02-19 Thread Outback Dingo
even so, im not so sure alot of people with to run a full install on a
firewall, for various reasons. If I was doing it, Id go with a CF card, or
USB, though age of system might make that unreliable. even pfsense can run
straight off cdrom, makes a decent option also.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Wojciech Puchar 
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

 Yeah, I realize it's more powerful than necessary to handle the
 task...though my current firewall/router is a 860+ Mhz PIII w/ 128 Megs of
 ram.  So, this would be a downgrade for my current firewall/router which
 allows me to repurpose the existing machine for something more
 computationally expensive.


 so - downgrade. FreeBSD easily runs (full, not stripped) on 32MB RAM

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Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size

2009-02-19 Thread Paul Procacci

Outback Dingo wrote:

even so, im not so sure alot of people with to run a full install on a
firewall, for various reasons. If I was doing it, Id go with a CF card, or
USB, though age of system might make that unreliable. even pfsense can run
straight off cdrom, makes a decent option also.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Wojciech Puchar 
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

  

Yeah, I realize it's more powerful than necessary to handle the


task...though my current firewall/router is a 860+ Mhz PIII w/ 128 Megs of
ram.  So, this would be a downgrade for my current firewall/router which
allows me to repurpose the existing machine for something more
computationally expensive.

  

so - downgrade. FreeBSD easily runs (full, not stripped) on 32MB RAM

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I did consider running it off a straight cd, but I alter my routes 
enough through various tunnels I have established that this would be a 
pain.  (i.e. updating vtund configs)  The disk-on-module is spot on and 
that's what I'll probably use: $14 bucks for 128 Megs w/ NanoBSD I 
believe is goingn to suffice nicely.


Thanks Guys!
~Paul
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Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size

2009-02-19 Thread Matias Surdi
Anybody knows if NanoBSD can be installed on a hard disk and use it to 
store data, logs, etc? for example, for a tiny mail server?


Paul Procacci wrote:

Hello list,

I have an old machine I just acquired that I was thinking of replacing 
my current FreeBSD firewall/router with.  It's a Celeron 500+ Mhz 
machine with 32 Megs of ram, and a 10G hard drive.  I am(was) initially 
thinking about taking out the 10G, and using the flobby disk drive to 
boot off of.  I was familiar with PicoBSD years ago and know I could use 
that, but it seems that project has been discontinued.  After looking 
through archives to determine what to do, I can across nanoBSD as that 
seems to be included in the FreeBSD system by default, henceforth this 
question.  I couldn't find any information regarding the smallest image 
size possible using NanoBSD.  So the question is: can nanoBSD fw/ the 
proper configurations fit onto a floppy disk...and if not, is such an 
old computer bootable off of a usb stick?  How can I tell without buying 
one?


Thanks,
~Paul
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Re: desktop app/config

2009-02-19 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:27:30AM -0500, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the library
 running FreeBSD- 
 
 What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what config do I
 need so that when the machine starts (power / boot)  it will automatically
 launch the desktop gui

The easiest way to get used to it is to just fully install the latest FreeBSD
(that is 7.1 at the moment) RELEASE, update it to RELENG_7 or RELENG_7_1
so it has the latest patches.   Install Xorg for Xwindows so you will have
graphics.  Then install a few handy ports from the /usr/ports tree.
Some you will want are Firefox and Thunderbird and Openoffice, although
you may want to install Openoffice from a binary package rather than
from ports.   Openoffice is very big and building it can be daunting
for a newbie. Some other good candidates might be Apache and Perl
and maybe a couple of games for fun.

Then, just start using it.   Learn to find things you need on the system.   
and configure the network securely.   There is lots of documentation in
the FreeBSD Handbook and other places online.   The more you do it, the
more they make sense.

One thing to learn is using the  vi(1)  text editor.   There are many
other editors, but for system management, vi is the omnipresent, ubiquitious
one.  It is sometimes the only one available in times when bad things
are happening.It feels rather clunky when you first start to use it
but it quickly becomes second nature.   The FreeBSD man page is pretty
good on it.  I have a web page that simplifies it a little at:  
  
 http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/project/editvi/
 
There are a number of books available that help learning FreeBSD.

FreeBSD Unleashed and Absolute BSD are a couple of them
The FreeBSD Handbook which is online at the FreeBSD web site and
is installed if you want it when FreeBSD is installed is quite good.
The FreeBSD site also has other documents and links listed.

At first, it will seem a little strange.   Generally FreeBSD is command
oriented, not pointy/clicky oriented.   That is a much more powerful way
to administer a system, but it takes more initial learning.

Ask questions.   People on the list have already heard all the common
complaints and gripes that FreeBSD is not like MS-Win dozens of times.
The usual response is Thank God or something similar.   Anyway, they
are not interested in hearing whines again.   But, if you have a real
question about 'how to do' something or even 'why is it done this way'
and not just grousing, people on the list are usually very good about
giving answers.   List people are very interested in helping people 
learn, but not interested in people complaining.   

If it is a bug, post a pr.   If it is a feature request, remember that 
FreeBSD is created and maintained by volunteers - very smart ones - but 
they have limits on time and resources so your request may take a very 
long time to get attention.   You may well learn how to do it yourself 
and then submit it as an improvement before then.

Good luck and have fun.

jerry   
   
 
 thanx
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RE: desktop app/config

2009-02-19 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
I think we went off  track a bit- I do know freebsd- my mail filter is a
FreeBSD with clam exim and sa- but I NEVER use the gui's  - I want to setup
some recycled machines with bsd and a gui that will be easy for a user to
grasp- I have mac users and pc users here-

But thanks for all the tips- I currently use ee for editing 

-Original Message-
From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerr...@msu.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:00 PM
To: Jean-Paul Natola
Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: desktop app/config

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:27:30AM -0500, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the library
 running FreeBSD- 
 
 What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what config do
I
 need so that when the machine starts (power / boot)  it will automatically
 launch the desktop gui

The easiest way to get used to it is to just fully install the latest FreeBSD
(that is 7.1 at the moment) RELEASE, update it to RELENG_7 or RELENG_7_1
so it has the latest patches.   Install Xorg for Xwindows so you will have
graphics.  Then install a few handy ports from the /usr/ports tree.
Some you will want are Firefox and Thunderbird and Openoffice, although
you may want to install Openoffice from a binary package rather than
from ports.   Openoffice is very big and building it can be daunting
for a newbie. Some other good candidates might be Apache and Perl
and maybe a couple of games for fun.

Then, just start using it.   Learn to find things you need on the system.   
and configure the network securely.   There is lots of documentation in
the FreeBSD Handbook and other places online.   The more you do it, the
more they make sense.

One thing to learn is using the  vi(1)  text editor.   There are many
other editors, but for system management, vi is the omnipresent, ubiquitious
one.  It is sometimes the only one available in times when bad things
are happening.It feels rather clunky when you first start to use it
but it quickly becomes second nature.   The FreeBSD man page is pretty
good on it.  I have a web page that simplifies it a little at:  
  
 http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/project/editvi/
 
There are a number of books available that help learning FreeBSD.

FreeBSD Unleashed and Absolute BSD are a couple of them
The FreeBSD Handbook which is online at the FreeBSD web site and
is installed if you want it when FreeBSD is installed is quite good.
The FreeBSD site also has other documents and links listed.

At first, it will seem a little strange.   Generally FreeBSD is command
oriented, not pointy/clicky oriented.   That is a much more powerful way
to administer a system, but it takes more initial learning.

Ask questions.   People on the list have already heard all the common
complaints and gripes that FreeBSD is not like MS-Win dozens of times.
The usual response is Thank God or something similar.   Anyway, they
are not interested in hearing whines again.   But, if you have a real
question about 'how to do' something or even 'why is it done this way'
and not just grousing, people on the list are usually very good about
giving answers.   List people are very interested in helping people 
learn, but not interested in people complaining.   

If it is a bug, post a pr.   If it is a feature request, remember that 
FreeBSD is created and maintained by volunteers - very smart ones - but 
they have limits on time and resources so your request may take a very 
long time to get attention.   You may well learn how to do it yourself 
and then submit it as an improvement before then.

Good luck and have fun.

jerry   
   
 
 thanx
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Re: World doesn't build correctly

2009-02-19 Thread Frank Wißmann
Am Donnerstag 19 Februar 2009 10:53:43 schrieb Polytropon:
 On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:50:25 +0100, Frank Wißmann 
frank.wissman...@web.de wrote:
  Well, I used your settings of default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7,
  but the answer is still this:
  FreeBSD grissom.einundvierzig.org 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE
  #0: Wed Feb 18 21:36:57 CET 2009
  r...@grissom.einundvierzig.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GRISSOM  amd64
 
  Any ideas, folks? Or should I post something more?

 may I ask how exactly you did the update? As it has mentioned
 before, the handbook (even the german version) gives a good
 routeplan for this.

 In general:

   # cd /usr/src
   # make update
   # make buildworld buildkernel KERNCONF=GRISSOM
   # make installkernel KERNCONF=GRISSOM
   # reboot
   boot -s
   fsck and mount -a
   # cd /usr/src
   # mergemaster -p
   # make installworld
   # mergemaster
   # reboot

 (Hope that's correct from my mind, check handbook anyway.)FreeBSD 
grissom.einundvierzig.org 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Feb 
18 21:36:57 CET 2009 
r...@grissom.einundvierzig.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GRISSOM  amd64


 Note that the configuration files mentioned above usually employ
 the make update command from within /usr/src. Kernel and world
 have to be the same version.

 Oh yes, and check your /boot/loader.conf if eventually a previous
 kernel is loaded, maybe you stored a spare kernel in /boot and
 the loader loads this, instead of /boot/kernel/kernel? Just to be
 sure... I mention this because I had a spare 6.0-GENERIC kernel
 saved in /boot, a setting in /boot/loader.conf for some testing,
 then updated the system (which affected /boot/kernel/kernel,
 but not /boot/kernel/kernel.GENERIC which was instead loaded). :-)

I did it now the way you told me but it still shows 7.0-Release at 
uname -a. I attach my make.conf and cvs-supfile' maybe there is 
something wrong?

Greetings Frank

-- 
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Y? !PGP- t+ 5 X !R tv- b++ DI !D G e h+ r- y? 

When pack meets pack in the jungle
and no one will move from the trail
wait till the leaders have spoken
it may be fair words shall prevail

(Rudyard Kipling)
*default host=cvsup.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr/src
*default prefix=/usr/src
*default release=cvs
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7
src-all
ports-all
doc-all
www
cvsroot-all
CPUTYPE?=   opteron
NO_CPU_CFLAGS=  true
NO_CPU_COPTFLAGS=   true
CFLAGS= -O -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe 
WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=  true
CXXFLAGS+=  -fconserve-space
MAKE_SHELL?=sh
BDECFLAGS=  -W -Wall -ansi -pedantic -Wbad-function-cast \
-Wcast-align -Wcast-qual -Wchar-subscripts \
-Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs \
-Wpointer-arith -Wredundant-decls -Wshadow \
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings
COPTFLAGS=  -O -pipe
INSTALL=install -C
KERNCONF=   GRISSOM
MTREE_FOLLOWS_SYMLINKS= -L
PPP_NOSUID= true
ENABLE_SUID_SSH=true
ENABLE_SUID_NEWGRP= true
NO_ACPI=true
NO_FORTRAN= true
NO_IPFILTER=true
NO_KERBEROS=true
NO_NIS= true
NO_ATM= true
WITH_BIND_LIBS= true
MODULES_WITH_WORLD= true
MAKE_IDEA=  yes
PRINTERDEVICE=  ps
SUP_UPDATE= yes
SUP=/usr/local/bin/cvsup
SUPFLAGS=   -g -L 2
SUPHOST=cvsup.de.FreeBSD.org
SUPFILE=/etc/cvs-supfile
PORTSSUPFILE=   /etc/cvs-supfile
DOCSUPFILE= /etc/cvs-supfile
TOP_TABLE_SIZE= 101
DOC_LANG=   en_US.ISO8859-1 de_DE.ISO8859-15
PERL_VER=   5.8.8
PERL_VERSION=   5.8.8
# Begin portconf settings
# Do not touch these lines
.if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/ports*)  exists(/usr/local/libexec/portconf)
_PORTCONF!=/usr/local/libexec/portconf
.for i in ${_PORTCONF:S/|/ /g}
${i:S/%/ /g}
.endfor
.endif
# End portconf settings
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RE: desktop app/config

2009-02-19 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
That's sounds like what I'm looking for, however, when you say login with no
user or password- I'm not sure if I like that because our fileserver is going
to have to authenticate them at some point as will access to the printers so
somewhere somehow I need a login no?


-Original Message-
From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:millenia2...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:17 PM
To: Jean-Paul Natola; jerr...@msu.edu
Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: desktop app/config


 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:05:08 -0500
 From: jnat...@familycareintl.org
 To: jerr...@msu.edu
 CC: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: desktop app/config
 
 I think we went off track a bit- I do know freebsd- my mail filter is a
 FreeBSD with clam exim and sa- but I NEVER use the gui's - I want to setup
 some recycled machines with bsd and a gui that will be easy for a user to
 grasp- I have mac users and pc users here-
 
 But thanks for all the tips- I currently use ee for editing 


I think what you are looking for overall would prob be a baseline install
with either Gnome or KDE installed. Personally I prefer Gnome but KDE is more
MSWindows like in its interface. You can go as far as to skin either of them
to look like MSWindows.

setup a basic user with no system control and no password for users to log in
with and change /etc/ttys so that ttyv8 is turned on and set to GDM or KDM
(depending on which you want to use).

Definitely configure what additional software you need installed per your
needs.

-Sean








 -Original Message-
 From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerr...@msu.edu] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:00 PM
 To: Jean-Paul Natola
 Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: desktop app/config
 
 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:27:30AM -0500, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  
  I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the
library
  running FreeBSD- 
  
  What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what config
do
 I
  need so that when the machine starts (power / boot) it will automatically
  launch the desktop gui
 
 The easiest way to get used to it is to just fully install the latest
FreeBSD
 (that is 7.1 at the moment) RELEASE, update it to RELENG_7 or RELENG_7_1
 so it has the latest patches. Install Xorg for Xwindows so you will have
 graphics. Then install a few handy ports from the /usr/ports tree.
 Some you will want are Firefox and Thunderbird and Openoffice, although
 you may want to install Openoffice from a binary package rather than
 from ports. Openoffice is very big and building it can be daunting
 for a newbie. Some other good candidates might be Apache and Perl
 and maybe a couple of games for fun.
 
 Then, just start using it. Learn to find things you need on the system. 
 and configure the network securely. There is lots of documentation in
 the FreeBSD Handbook and other places online. The more you do it, the
 more they make sense.
 
 One thing to learn is using the vi(1) text editor. There are many
 other editors, but for system management, vi is the omnipresent,
ubiquitious
 one. It is sometimes the only one available in times when bad things
 are happening. It feels rather clunky when you first start to use it
 but it quickly becomes second nature. The FreeBSD man page is pretty
 good on it. I have a web page that simplifies it a little at: 
 
 http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/project/editvi/
 
 There are a number of books available that help learning FreeBSD.
 
 FreeBSD Unleashed and Absolute BSD are a couple of them
 The FreeBSD Handbook which is online at the FreeBSD web site and
 is installed if you want it when FreeBSD is installed is quite good.
 The FreeBSD site also has other documents and links listed.
 
 At first, it will seem a little strange. Generally FreeBSD is command
 oriented, not pointy/clicky oriented. That is a much more powerful way
 to administer a system, but it takes more initial learning.
 
 Ask questions. People on the list have already heard all the common
 complaints and gripes that FreeBSD is not like MS-Win dozens of times.
 The usual response is Thank God or something similar. Anyway, they
 are not interested in hearing whines again. But, if you have a real
 question about 'how to do' something or even 'why is it done this way'
 and not just grousing, people on the list are usually very good about
 giving answers. List people are very interested in helping people 
 learn, but not interested in people complaining. 
 
 If it is a bug, post a pr. If it is a feature request, remember that 
 FreeBSD is created and maintained by volunteers - very smart ones - but 
 they have limits on time and resources so your request may take a very 
 long time to get attention. You may well learn how to do it yourself 
 and then submit it as an improvement before then.
 
 Good luck and have fun.
 
 jerry 
 
  
  thanx
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RE: desktop app/config

2009-02-19 Thread Sean Cavanaugh


 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:05:08 -0500
 From: jnat...@familycareintl.org
 To: jerr...@msu.edu
 CC: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: desktop app/config
 
 I think we went off  track a bit- I do know freebsd- my mail filter is a
 FreeBSD with clam exim and sa- but I NEVER use the gui's  - I want to setup
 some recycled machines with bsd and a gui that will be easy for a user to
 grasp- I have mac users and pc users here-
 
 But thanks for all the tips- I currently use ee for editing 


I think what you are looking for overall would prob be a baseline install with 
either Gnome or KDE installed. Personally I prefer Gnome but KDE is more 
MSWindows like in its interface. You can go as far as to skin either of them to 
look like MSWindows.

setup a basic user with no system control and no password for users to log in 
with and change /etc/ttys so that ttyv8 is turned on and set to GDM or KDM 
(depending on which you want to use).

Definitely configure what additional software you need installed per your needs.

-Sean








 -Original Message-
 From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerr...@msu.edu] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:00 PM
 To: Jean-Paul Natola
 Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: desktop app/config
 
 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:27:30AM -0500, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  
  I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the library
  running FreeBSD- 
  
  What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what config do
 I
  need so that when the machine starts (power / boot)  it will automatically
  launch the desktop gui
 
 The easiest way to get used to it is to just fully install the latest FreeBSD
 (that is 7.1 at the moment) RELEASE, update it to RELENG_7 or RELENG_7_1
 so it has the latest patches.   Install Xorg for Xwindows so you will have
 graphics.  Then install a few handy ports from the /usr/ports tree.
 Some you will want are Firefox and Thunderbird and Openoffice, although
 you may want to install Openoffice from a binary package rather than
 from ports.   Openoffice is very big and building it can be daunting
 for a newbie. Some other good candidates might be Apache and Perl
 and maybe a couple of games for fun.
 
 Then, just start using it.   Learn to find things you need on the system.   
 and configure the network securely.   There is lots of documentation in
 the FreeBSD Handbook and other places online.   The more you do it, the
 more they make sense.
 
 One thing to learn is using the  vi(1)  text editor.   There are many
 other editors, but for system management, vi is the omnipresent, ubiquitious
 one.  It is sometimes the only one available in times when bad things
 are happening.It feels rather clunky when you first start to use it
 but it quickly becomes second nature.   The FreeBSD man page is pretty
 good on it.  I have a web page that simplifies it a little at:  
   
  http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/project/editvi/
  
 There are a number of books available that help learning FreeBSD.
 
 FreeBSD Unleashed and Absolute BSD are a couple of them
 The FreeBSD Handbook which is online at the FreeBSD web site and
 is installed if you want it when FreeBSD is installed is quite good.
 The FreeBSD site also has other documents and links listed.
 
 At first, it will seem a little strange.   Generally FreeBSD is command
 oriented, not pointy/clicky oriented.   That is a much more powerful way
 to administer a system, but it takes more initial learning.
 
 Ask questions.   People on the list have already heard all the common
 complaints and gripes that FreeBSD is not like MS-Win dozens of times.
 The usual response is Thank God or something similar.   Anyway, they
 are not interested in hearing whines again.   But, if you have a real
 question about 'how to do' something or even 'why is it done this way'
 and not just grousing, people on the list are usually very good about
 giving answers.   List people are very interested in helping people 
 learn, but not interested in people complaining.   
 
 If it is a bug, post a pr.   If it is a feature request, remember that 
 FreeBSD is created and maintained by volunteers - very smart ones - but 
 they have limits on time and resources so your request may take a very 
 long time to get attention.   You may well learn how to do it yourself 
 and then submit it as an improvement before then.
 
 Good luck and have fun.
 
 jerry   

  
  thanx
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RE: desktop app/config

2009-02-19 Thread Sean Cavanaugh



 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:19:09 -0500
 From: jnat...@familycareintl.org
 To: millenia2...@hotmail.com; jerr...@msu.edu
 CC: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: desktop app/config
 
 That's sounds like what I'm looking for, however, when you say login with no
 user or password- I'm not sure if I like that because our fileserver is going
 to have to authenticate them at some point as will access to the printers so
 somewhere somehow I need a login no?
 

What i was refering to was having a basic user with no system authority such as 
deleting files and whatnot on the local machine. dont want inexperienced user 
screwing up a perfectly fine system.

if you have a file/print server set up then you are correct and should prob use 
a password for the user account. i was assuming local access only. 




 -Original Message-
 From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:millenia2...@hotmail.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:17 PM
 To: Jean-Paul Natola; jerr...@msu.edu
 Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: desktop app/config
 
 
  Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:05:08 -0500
  From: jnat...@familycareintl.org
  To: jerr...@msu.edu
  CC: questi...@freebsd.org
  Subject: RE: desktop app/config
  
  I think we went off track a bit- I do know freebsd- my mail filter is a
  FreeBSD with clam exim and sa- but I NEVER use the gui's - I want to setup
  some recycled machines with bsd and a gui that will be easy for a user to
  grasp- I have mac users and pc users here-
  
  But thanks for all the tips- I currently use ee for editing 
 
 
 I think what you are looking for overall would prob be a baseline install
 with either Gnome or KDE installed. Personally I prefer Gnome but KDE is more
 MSWindows like in its interface. You can go as far as to skin either of them
 to look like MSWindows.
 
 setup a basic user with no system control and no password for users to log in
 with and change /etc/ttys so that ttyv8 is turned on and set to GDM or KDM
 (depending on which you want to use).
 
 Definitely configure what additional software you need installed per your
 needs.
 
 -Sean
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerr...@msu.edu] 
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:00 PM
  To: Jean-Paul Natola
  Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: desktop app/config
  
  On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:27:30AM -0500, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
  
   Hi all,
   
   I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the
 library
   running FreeBSD- 
   
   What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what config
 do
  I
   need so that when the machine starts (power / boot) it will automatically
   launch the desktop gui
  
  The easiest way to get used to it is to just fully install the latest
 FreeBSD
  (that is 7.1 at the moment) RELEASE, update it to RELENG_7 or RELENG_7_1
  so it has the latest patches. Install Xorg for Xwindows so you will have
  graphics. Then install a few handy ports from the /usr/ports tree.
  Some you will want are Firefox and Thunderbird and Openoffice, although
  you may want to install Openoffice from a binary package rather than
  from ports. Openoffice is very big and building it can be daunting
  for a newbie. Some other good candidates might be Apache and Perl
  and maybe a couple of games for fun.
  
  Then, just start using it. Learn to find things you need on the system. 
  and configure the network securely. There is lots of documentation in
  the FreeBSD Handbook and other places online. The more you do it, the
  more they make sense.
  
  One thing to learn is using the vi(1) text editor. There are many
  other editors, but for system management, vi is the omnipresent,
 ubiquitious
  one. It is sometimes the only one available in times when bad things
  are happening. It feels rather clunky when you first start to use it
  but it quickly becomes second nature. The FreeBSD man page is pretty
  good on it. I have a web page that simplifies it a little at: 
  
  http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/project/editvi/
  
  There are a number of books available that help learning FreeBSD.
  
  FreeBSD Unleashed and Absolute BSD are a couple of them
  The FreeBSD Handbook which is online at the FreeBSD web site and
  is installed if you want it when FreeBSD is installed is quite good.
  The FreeBSD site also has other documents and links listed.
  
  At first, it will seem a little strange. Generally FreeBSD is command
  oriented, not pointy/clicky oriented. That is a much more powerful way
  to administer a system, but it takes more initial learning.
  
  Ask questions. People on the list have already heard all the common
  complaints and gripes that FreeBSD is not like MS-Win dozens of times.
  The usual response is Thank God or something similar. Anyway, they
  are not interested in hearing whines again. But, if you have a real
  question about 'how to do' something or even 'why is it done this way'
  and not just grousing, people on the list are 

RE: desktop app/config

2009-02-19 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
What is the terminology that I would need to search in the handbook to get
a bsd machine to authenticate with AD  I have Mac machines that authenticate
to our network- but that's easy to configure



-Original Message-
From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:millenia2...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:36 PM
To: Jean-Paul Natola; jerr...@msu.edu
Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: desktop app/config



 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:19:09 -0500
 From: jnat...@familycareintl.org
 To: millenia2...@hotmail.com; jerr...@msu.edu
 CC: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: desktop app/config
 
 That's sounds like what I'm looking for, however, when you say login with
no
 user or password- I'm not sure if I like that because our fileserver is
going
 to have to authenticate them at some point as will access to the printers
so
 somewhere somehow I need a login no?
 

What i was refering to was having a basic user with no system authority such
as deleting files and whatnot on the local machine. dont want inexperienced
user screwing up a perfectly fine system.

if you have a file/print server set up then you are correct and should prob
use a password for the user account. i was assuming local access only. 




 -Original Message-
 From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:millenia2...@hotmail.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:17 PM
 To: Jean-Paul Natola; jerr...@msu.edu
 Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: desktop app/config
 
 
  Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:05:08 -0500
  From: jnat...@familycareintl.org
  To: jerr...@msu.edu
  CC: questi...@freebsd.org
  Subject: RE: desktop app/config
  
  I think we went off track a bit- I do know freebsd- my mail filter is a
  FreeBSD with clam exim and sa- but I NEVER use the gui's - I want to
setup
  some recycled machines with bsd and a gui that will be easy for a user
to
  grasp- I have mac users and pc users here-
  
  But thanks for all the tips- I currently use ee for editing 
 
 
 I think what you are looking for overall would prob be a baseline install
 with either Gnome or KDE installed. Personally I prefer Gnome but KDE is
more
 MSWindows like in its interface. You can go as far as to skin either of
them
 to look like MSWindows.
 
 setup a basic user with no system control and no password for users to log
in
 with and change /etc/ttys so that ttyv8 is turned on and set to GDM or KDM
 (depending on which you want to use).
 
 Definitely configure what additional software you need installed per your
 needs.
 
 -Sean
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerr...@msu.edu] 
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:00 PM
  To: Jean-Paul Natola
  Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: desktop app/config
  
  On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:27:30AM -0500, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
  
   Hi all,
   
   I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the
 library
   running FreeBSD- 
   
   What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what config
 do
  I
   need so that when the machine starts (power / boot) it will
automatically
   launch the desktop gui
  
  The easiest way to get used to it is to just fully install the latest
 FreeBSD
  (that is 7.1 at the moment) RELEASE, update it to RELENG_7 or RELENG_7_1
  so it has the latest patches. Install Xorg for Xwindows so you will have
  graphics. Then install a few handy ports from the /usr/ports tree.
  Some you will want are Firefox and Thunderbird and Openoffice, although
  you may want to install Openoffice from a binary package rather than
  from ports. Openoffice is very big and building it can be daunting
  for a newbie. Some other good candidates might be Apache and Perl
  and maybe a couple of games for fun.
  
  Then, just start using it. Learn to find things you need on the system. 
  and configure the network securely. There is lots of documentation in
  the FreeBSD Handbook and other places online. The more you do it, the
  more they make sense.
  
  One thing to learn is using the vi(1) text editor. There are many
  other editors, but for system management, vi is the omnipresent,
 ubiquitious
  one. It is sometimes the only one available in times when bad things
  are happening. It feels rather clunky when you first start to use it
  but it quickly becomes second nature. The FreeBSD man page is pretty
  good on it. I have a web page that simplifies it a little at: 
  
  http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/project/editvi/
  
  There are a number of books available that help learning FreeBSD.
  
  FreeBSD Unleashed and Absolute BSD are a couple of them
  The FreeBSD Handbook which is online at the FreeBSD web site and
  is installed if you want it when FreeBSD is installed is quite good.
  The FreeBSD site also has other documents and links listed.
  
  At first, it will seem a little strange. Generally FreeBSD is command
  oriented, not pointy/clicky oriented. That is a much more powerful way
  to administer a system, but it takes more 

off topic: reporting attempts to access computers

2009-02-19 Thread Andrew Gould
What information should I send to an ab...@* address when reporting a
break-in attempt?

My logs show a dictionary attack of invalid user names against port 22.  I
obtained an ab...@* email address using 'whois' and reported the beginning
and ending date/times and the originating IP address.

Is there any other information I need to send?  Is there someone else I
should notify?

Most of the attacks I receive are from other continents, so I just block the
network range found via 'whois'.  In this case, the IP address is fairly
local, so I'm hesitant to block the entire range.

Thanks,

Andrew
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Re: off topic: reporting attempts to access computers

2009-02-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar

My logs show a dictionary attack of invalid user names against port 22.  I
obtained an ab...@* email address using 'whois' and reported the beginning
and ending date/times and the originating IP address.

Is there any other information I need to send?


i don't think so.
anyway - if all password are well made still there is no problem.

 Is there someone else I

should notify?


i don't think so.


Most of the attacks I receive are from other continents, so I just block the
network range found via 'whois'.


it's good solution, mostly because those in ab...@* often simply ignore 
such mails.

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FreeBSD-7.1-p3 Realtek RTL8111/8168B driver regression?

2009-02-19 Thread Fernando Apesteguía
Hi all,

Yesterday I updated to 7.1-p3 on AMD64 arch.

Since then, the NIC is not detected anymore. ifconfig doesn't show it
and I can't connect to the Internet.

There were well-known issues with this NIC model
(http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/hackers/2008-11/msg00299.html)
before, but the weird thing is that it seemed to be fine with
7.1-RELEASE and newer till this -p3.

Anybody with this problem?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: sendmail not listening on port 465

2009-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Feb 17, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Seur Bors wrote:

I'm having problems with Sendmail. Everything is working fine,  
except that

the sendmail daemon is not listening on port 465. [...]



DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtps, Name=TLSMTA, M=s')dnl


You are aware that using port 465 was never fully a standard is, at  
best, deprecated.


Your daemon options say to use port smtps, check to see whether that  
is defined in /etc/services

and see what happens if you replace Port=smtps with Port=465

But do reconsider whether you need to be listening on 465 in the first  
place.  You can (and should) simply use TLS on the submission port, 587.


-j



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Re: off topic: reporting attempts to access computers

2009-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Feb 19, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Andrew Gould wrote:


What information should I send to an ab...@* address when reporting a
break-in attempt?

My logs show a dictionary attack of invalid user names against port  
22.


So source of these is almost always some other compromised Unix-like  
system.



I obtained an ab...@* email address using 'whois' and reported
the beginning and ending date/times and the originating IP address.


When reporting the times, be sure to make the time zone clear.

Is there any other information I need to send?  Is there someone  
else I

should notify?


There's no general answer to that.  It really depends the specifics of  
the case.  For example, a small business might have a small netblock  
and an abuse address, but aren't competent to deal with your  
notification.  Think of a small business that has a bunch of Window's  
clients and one ancient RedHat system that hasn't been maintained for  
years and was set up by someone who doesn't work there anymore.  In  
that case, it might be useful to inform their provider as well.


Back when I used to report these things, I had a template message for  
doing so.


Most of the attacks I receive are from other continents, so I just  
block the

network range found via 'whois'.


If you block, and your firewall will log the failed attempts, then you  
may also look at participating in DShield


  http://www.dshield.org/howto.html

Cheers,

-j

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Re: Top Posting Mania [was Re: FreeBSD 7.O compiled code is very slow]

2009-02-19 Thread Mel
On Thursday 19 February 2009 05:06:15 GESBBB wrote:

 4) The insertion of legally unenforceable disclaimers, etc. is another big
 waste of space.

And not always under the control of sender, through the creative use of 
outgoing mailfilters.

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Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules
and never get to the software part.
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RE: desktop app/config

2009-02-19 Thread Sean Cavanaugh



 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:39:53 -0500
 From: jnat...@familycareintl.org
 To: millenia2...@hotmail.com; jerr...@msu.edu
 CC: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: desktop app/config
 
 What is the terminology that I would need to search in the handbook to get
 a bsd machine to authenticate with AD  I have Mac machines that authenticate
 to our network- but that's easy to configure
 

TO connect to a Windows Active Directory, you need to use LDAP for 
authentication. HOW to do that is beyond me and thus google.com is your friend.





 -Original Message-
 From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:millenia2...@hotmail.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:36 PM
 To: Jean-Paul Natola; jerr...@msu.edu
 Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: desktop app/config
 
 
 
  Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:19:09 -0500
  From: jnat...@familycareintl.org
  To: millenia2...@hotmail.com; jerr...@msu.edu
  CC: questi...@freebsd.org
  Subject: RE: desktop app/config
  
  That's sounds like what I'm looking for, however, when you say login with
 no
  user or password- I'm not sure if I like that because our fileserver is
 going
  to have to authenticate them at some point as will access to the printers
 so
  somewhere somehow I need a login no?
  
 
 What i was refering to was having a basic user with no system authority such
 as deleting files and whatnot on the local machine. dont want inexperienced
 user screwing up a perfectly fine system.
 
 if you have a file/print server set up then you are correct and should prob
 use a password for the user account. i was assuming local access only. 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:millenia2...@hotmail.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:17 PM
  To: Jean-Paul Natola; jerr...@msu.edu
  Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
  Subject: RE: desktop app/config
  
  
   Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:05:08 -0500
   From: jnat...@familycareintl.org
   To: jerr...@msu.edu
   CC: questi...@freebsd.org
   Subject: RE: desktop app/config
   
   I think we went off track a bit- I do know freebsd- my mail filter is a
   FreeBSD with clam exim and sa- but I NEVER use the gui's - I want to
 setup
   some recycled machines with bsd and a gui that will be easy for a user
 to
   grasp- I have mac users and pc users here-
   
   But thanks for all the tips- I currently use ee for editing 
  
  
  I think what you are looking for overall would prob be a baseline install
  with either Gnome or KDE installed. Personally I prefer Gnome but KDE is
 more
  MSWindows like in its interface. You can go as far as to skin either of
 them
  to look like MSWindows.
  
  setup a basic user with no system control and no password for users to log
 in
  with and change /etc/ttys so that ttyv8 is turned on and set to GDM or KDM
  (depending on which you want to use).
  
  Definitely configure what additional software you need installed per your
  needs.
  
  -Sean
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerr...@msu.edu] 
   Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:00 PM
   To: Jean-Paul Natola
   Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
   Subject: Re: desktop app/config
   
   On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:27:30AM -0500, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
   
Hi all,

I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the
  library
running FreeBSD- 

What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what config
  do
   I
need so that when the machine starts (power / boot) it will
 automatically
launch the desktop gui
   
   The easiest way to get used to it is to just fully install the latest
  FreeBSD
   (that is 7.1 at the moment) RELEASE, update it to RELENG_7 or RELENG_7_1
   so it has the latest patches. Install Xorg for Xwindows so you will have
   graphics. Then install a few handy ports from the /usr/ports tree.
   Some you will want are Firefox and Thunderbird and Openoffice, although
   you may want to install Openoffice from a binary package rather than
   from ports. Openoffice is very big and building it can be daunting
   for a newbie. Some other good candidates might be Apache and Perl
   and maybe a couple of games for fun.
   
   Then, just start using it. Learn to find things you need on the system. 
   and configure the network securely. There is lots of documentation in
   the FreeBSD Handbook and other places online. The more you do it, the
   more they make sense.
   
   One thing to learn is using the vi(1) text editor. There are many
   other editors, but for system management, vi is the omnipresent,
  ubiquitious
   one. It is sometimes the only one available in times when bad things
   are happening. It feels rather clunky when you first start to use it
   but it quickly becomes second nature. The FreeBSD man page is pretty
   good on it. I have a web page that simplifies it a little at: 
   
   http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/project/editvi/
   
   There are a number of books available that help 

Well, almost back to normal....

2009-02-19 Thread Gary Kline
Guys,

Anybody know what I have to rebuild/fix to get rid of the
following error output:


Xlib:  extension Generic Event Extension missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension Generic Event Extension missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension Generic Event Extension missing on display :0.0.


I had a system crash and had to reboot via using /boot/kernel.prev,
then was able to do a complete upgrade to the latest 7.1; then did a 
wholesale upgrade.  After 4 days it finished.  I Did an 
X -configure to get a new xorg . conf and thought everything was Fixed.
Still, whenever I initiate a new Konsole; whenever I ssh in from
elsewhere, I get the Xlib missing on display 0.0 errs.What' is
still not right?

[back to thesis.  hope some of you knows what's going on with this!

tia,

gary




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Re: World doesn't build correctly

2009-02-19 Thread Mel
On Thursday 19 February 2009 08:14:01 Frank Wißmann wrote:

 I did it now the way you told me but it still shows 7.0-Release at
 uname -a. I attach my make.conf and cvs-supfile' maybe there is
 something wrong?

Yep. You're using the cvs-supfile, which does not update the source tree, but 
makes a cvs repository copy.
You will now have:
/usr/src/src
/usr/src/CVSROOT-*
/usr/src/doc
/usr/src/ports
/usr/src/www
/usr/src/sup

You should delete those, using rm -rf.

Next:
1) cp /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile /etc/
2) sed -i.bak -e 's/CHANGE_THIS/cvsup.de/' /etc/stable-supfile
3) csup -L2 /etc/stable-supfile
4) cd /usr/src

Now rebuild world and kernel as you've done before. You will want to run 
mergemaster as mergemaster -iU.
-- 
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and never get to the software part.
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Re: Well, almost back to normal....

2009-02-19 Thread matt donovan
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

 Guys,

 Anybody know what I have to rebuild/fix to get rid of the
 following error output:


 Xlib:  extension Generic Event Extension missing on display :0.0.
 Xlib:  extension Generic Event Extension missing on display :0.0.
 Xlib:  extension Generic Event Extension missing on display :0.0.


 I had a system crash and had to reboot via using /boot/kernel.prev,
 then was able to do a complete upgrade to the latest 7.1; then did a
 wholesale upgrade.  After 4 days it finished.  I Did an
 X -configure to get a new xorg . conf and thought everything was Fixed.
 Still, whenever I initiate a new Konsole; whenever I ssh in from
 elsewhere, I get the Xlib missing on display 0.0 errs.What' is
 still not right?

 [back to thesis.  hope some of you knows what's going on with this!

 tia,

 gary




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nothing the xserver does not support that extension yet so that is a normal
thing as of right now for Xorg
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Install 7.1 DVD iso UNetbootin Eee Box

2009-02-19 Thread loony

Has anyone had any luck with UNetbootin and the 7.1 DVD iso?

I'm trying to prep USB media on windows vista64.  Unlike the CDROM based isos, 
the DVD install is compressed .gz. I assume the iso needs to be extracted prior 
to loading it with UNetbootin and wonder if somehow gzip.exe on Windows is 
messing with the sanctity (for lack of better technical term) of the iso files.

When I boot from a 8gb usb device I've prepped with 7.1 DVD using UNetbootin, I 
get a missing or corrupted kernel image.  No problems with using the latest 
BackTrack iso.

I'm putting together a resource for running FreeBSD on the Asus Eee box at 
http://groups.google.com/group/freebsd-eee-box?hl=en and would really 
appreciate assistance with creating a USB boot media (preferably on Windows but 
a FBSD 7.0 box is available as well) based on the DVD as the DVD is a lot more 
convenient than a CDROM install.

Is it possible to edit the syslinux file installed by UNetbootin to point to a 
generic kernel in the kernels directory?

Thanks.
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My race is just nothing: Some thoughts on the political psychology of women

2009-02-19 Thread Lawrence Auster
My race is just nothing: Some thoughts on the political psychology of women

By Kevin MacDonald

February 19, 2009

It seems that the signs of white dispossession are everywhere these days. 
Edmund Connelly describes how non-Jewish whites are being pushed out of elite 
institutions like Harvard. An article titled “The end of white America” 
catalogues the lack of cultural confidence of whites these days. It quotes a 
student who says “To be white is to be culturally broke.

Writing in vdare.com, David A. Yeagley quotes one of his female students saying 
“Look ... I don’t see anything about my culture to be proud of. It’s all 
nothing. My race is just nothing.” Yeagley notes the Cheyenne saying, “A nation 
is never defeated until the hearts of its women are on the ground.” And he 
places this in the context of the recent election in which 46% of white women 
voted for Obama compared to 41% of white men.

These percentages are somewhat inflated because they include Jews and 
immigrants, such as South Asians, who are classified as white but do not 
identify with the European-American majority. Nevertheless, they do point to a 
significant gender gap. While it is certainly true that voting for McCain-Palin 
is not a sign of white consciousness — even implicitly, it is also the case 
that voting for Obama is a good sign of a lack of racial consciousness for 
European Americans.

The good news, of course, is that a majority of white women did not vote for 
Obama. And, as Steve Sailer has shown for the 2004 election, if one separated 
out women who are married and have children, the results would show an even 
greater tendency to vote against Obama.

Nevertheless, there is a real problem. Those of us with some acquaintance with 
European-Americans who do have an explicit ethnic identity and a sense of their 
ethnic interests are quite aware that there is a very large sex ratio imbalance 
at gatherings of like-minded people. The attendees are almost all male — an 
exception being the redoubtable Virginia Abernethy. And there are stories of 
men who have stopped attending meetings or who provide support only in the most 
furtive manner, mainly because their wives are afraid that the attitudes of 
their husbands could become public and ruin their social life. Making such 
things public is just the sort of thing that organizations like the SPLC and 
the ADL love to do.

Judith Warner of the New York Times describes the result of an informal email 
inquiry on women's reactions to Obama. Some imagined having sex with Obama and 
replacing Michelle Obama as First Lady. Others imagined themselves at social 
engagements with Obama. All wanted deeply to have some of the Obama aura rub 
off on them. Warner's email contacts doubtless reflect her liberal readership, 
but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they are quite general, especially among 
white women who voted for Obama.

What does an evolutionary psychologist say about all this? Parenthetically, I 
realize that the great majority of Americans do not believe in evolution. 
Nevertheless, evolutionary theory is a very powerful and scientifically 
credible way of looking at human behavior. It is no accident that one of the 
main strands of Jewish intellectual activism over the last century has been to 
oppose evolutionary theory as an explanatory tool in the social sciences. 
Darwin did indeed have a dangerous idea — dangerous to Jews because it provides 
a rational grounding for the ethnic identity and interests of European-derived 
people.

The evolutionary theory of sex is one of the bedrocks of evolutionary 
psychology — probably accounting for half of all the research in the field. The 
basic idea is simple: Females invest a relatively large amount of time and 
energy in reproduction. In the world we evolved in, the only way for women to 
reproduce was to endure a 38-week pregnancy and then nurse the child for an 
even longer period. Even after nursing, child care was mainly a female 
responsibility.

Because women are committed to this very large investment, they become very 
valuable in the mating game. And because they are valuable, they become 
discriminating maters: Just as a worker who puts in more time and energy is in 
a better bargaining position than one who puts in little time and energy,  
women become the choosers in the mating game.

And what do women want? Women are expected to want men who have high social 
status. From an evolutionary perspective, such men are attractive because they 
may be willing to provide valuable resources that would help in supporting the 
mother and raising the children. (When men do contribute resources, they also 
become choosy, but that's another story.) And even if a wealthy  man does not 
provide resources, he is likely to have good genes — genes that predispose his 
children to be successful.

In any case, women do indeed prefer wealthy, high-status men. For example, a 
recent study found that wealthy men give women 

Re: Well, almost back to normal....

2009-02-19 Thread Matthew Seaman

Gary Kline wrote:

Guys,

Anybody know what I have to rebuild/fix to get rid of the
following error output:


Xlib:  extension Generic Event Extension missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension Generic Event Extension missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension Generic Event Extension missing on display :0.0.




This is apparently harmless.  It's happened because development of 
Xlib has got a bit ahead of development of the X server -- so Xlib

incorporates features not yet released in X server.

The story is this will be fixed when xorg-server-1.6 hits the tree.
That could be at any moment.  In the mean time, just ignore the 
excess verbiage.


Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: desktop app/config

2009-02-19 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Jean-Paul Natola wrote:

What is the terminology that I would need to search in the handbook to get
a bsd machine to authenticate with AD  I have Mac machines that authenticate
to our network- but that's easy to configure


AD==Active Directory?

BSD doesn't do that by default.  AFAIK, you'll need to install
and configure SAMBA (which is in ports).

As for the original question, I saw a config by a guy named
Horen (I think, from NW Europe someplace) for FVWM which looked
almost exactly like Windows XP, down to the icons.  There's also
FWVM95, which is supposed to look like Win95.  And, I've not
seen XFWM mentioned yet, which is pretty user friendly and a
tad more lightweight than KDE or Gnome ... which could be important
if you're talking about recycled hardware.

My $.02,

Kevin Kinsey
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Re: off topic: reporting attempts to access computers

2009-02-19 Thread GESBBB
 From: Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com
 
 What information should I send to an ab...@* address when reporting a
 break-in attempt?
 
 My logs show a dictionary attack of invalid user names against port 22.  I
 obtained an ab...@* email address using 'whois' and reported the beginning
 and ending date/times and the originating IP address.
 
 Is there any other information I need to send?  Is there someone else I
 should notify?
 
 Most of the attacks I receive are from other continents, so I just block the
 network range found via 'whois'.  In this case, the IP address is fairly
 local, so I'm hesitant to block the entire range.

There are some applications that you might want to install that can help. 
Personally, I have found reporting the abuse virtually useless. I use to just 
include the entire log with the data that pertained to the user in question; 
however, that just proved a waste of time.

If you are using 'passwords' to access your account, you might want to consider 
using certificates instead. That is far safer than using a password that 
eventually can be cracked.

-- 
Jerry
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globally limit fetch download?

2009-02-19 Thread B. Cook
I have several FreeBSD machines located at different sites on very slow 
DSL lines.


Is there a way that I can limit the bandwidth that fetch uses when it 
fetches ports?

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QLogic 2460 driver ?

2009-02-19 Thread Len Conrad
Is there one?

thanks
Len

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Re: globally limit fetch download?

2009-02-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I have several FreeBSD machines located at different sites on very slow DSL 
lines.


Is there a way that I can limit the bandwidth that fetch uses when it fetches 
ports?

you may do this and 1000 times more things using IPFirewall

man ipfw
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Re: World doesn't build correctly

2009-02-19 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:14:01 +0100, Frank Wißmann frank.wissman...@web.de 
wrote:
 I did it now the way you told me but it still shows 7.0-Release at 
 uname -a. I attach my make.conf and cvs-supfile' maybe there is 
 something wrong?

I've found something strange in the CVSup files:

Your file   My file
-
*default base=/usr/src  *default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr/src*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7

You see these differences: base and prefix are set incorrectly and
release / tag is incomplete. You should follow Mel's advice and
take the file /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile as a starting
point. Of course, you can cut the many comments, but be sure that
the settings are valid (as shown above).




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Re: globally limit fetch download?

2009-02-19 Thread Trober
Hi!

Workaround, but work :)

http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2006-05/msg01071.html

Trober
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De: B. Cook bc...@poughkeepsieschools.org
Para: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Data: Quinta, 19 De Fevereiro De 2009 17:01
Assunto: globally limit fetch download?

 I have several FreeBSD machines located at different sites on very slow 
 DSL lines.
 
 Is there a way that I can limit the bandwidth that fetch uses when it 
 fetches ports?
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RE: desktop app/config

2009-02-19 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
Wish I would have seen that before I started this KDE install 2 hours ago

Thx will look into it too

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Kinsey [mailto:k...@daleco.biz] 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 2:12 PM
To: Jean-Paul Natola
Cc: Sean Cavanaugh; jerr...@msu.edu; questi...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: desktop app/config

Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
 What is the terminology that I would need to search in the handbook to
get
 a bsd machine to authenticate with AD  I have Mac machines that
authenticate
 to our network- but that's easy to configure

AD==Active Directory?

BSD doesn't do that by default.  AFAIK, you'll need to install
and configure SAMBA (which is in ports).

As for the original question, I saw a config by a guy named
Horen (I think, from NW Europe someplace) for FVWM which looked
almost exactly like Windows XP, down to the icons.  There's also
FWVM95, which is supposed to look like Win95.  And, I've not
seen XFWM mentioned yet, which is pretty user friendly and a
tad more lightweight than KDE or Gnome ... which could be important
if you're talking about recycled hardware.

My $.02,

Kevin Kinsey
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Re: off topic: reporting attempts to access computers

2009-02-19 Thread Andrew Gould
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, GESBBB ges...@yahoo.com wrote:

  From: Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com
 
  What information should I send to an ab...@* address when reporting a
  break-in attempt?
 
  My logs show a dictionary attack of invalid user names against port 22.
 I
  obtained an ab...@* email address using 'whois' and reported the
 beginning
  and ending date/times and the originating IP address.
 
  Is there any other information I need to send?  Is there someone else I
  should notify?
 
  Most of the attacks I receive are from other continents, so I just block
 the
  network range found via 'whois'.  In this case, the IP address is fairly
  local, so I'm hesitant to block the entire range.

 There are some applications that you might want to install that can help.
 Personally, I have found reporting the abuse virtually useless. I use to
 just include the entire log with the data that pertained to the user in
 question; however, that just proved a waste of time.

 If you are using 'passwords' to access your account, you might want to
 consider using certificates instead. That is far safer than using a password
 that eventually can be cracked.

 --
 Jerry


Yes, it's probably time to move to certificates.  Thanks for the suggestion.

Andrew
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Re: globally limit fetch download?

2009-02-19 Thread RW
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:12:48 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

  I have several FreeBSD machines located at different sites on very
  slow DSL lines.
 
  Is there a way that I can limit the bandwidth that fetch uses when
  it fetches ports?
 you may do this and 1000 times more things using IPFirewall

It's not a very efficient way to do it when the firewall is downstream
of the bottleneck - it's also difficult to make it specific to port
downloads. 

I'd go with wget. It's also good at handling unreliable lines, I used
to use it when I was on dial-up

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Fwd: Aliassing 'svn log' to 'svn log -v'

2009-02-19 Thread Glen Barber
Forgot to CC list.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: Aliassing 'svn log' to 'svn log -v'
To: Frank Staals franksta...@gmx.net


On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Frank Staals franksta...@gmx.net wrote:
 A bit of an off-topic question, but is there a neat way of aliassing 'svn
 log' to 'svn log -v' in zsh ? I chould just write a one line shell script
 that does 'svn log -v' and alias something like svnlog to the script but
 that is a bit of a hack.

Alias it in $HOME/.zshrc

--
Glen Barber
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Re: Install 7.1 DVD iso UNetbootin Eee Box

2009-02-19 Thread Ivan Voras
loony wrote:
 Has anyone had any luck with UNetbootin and the 7.1 DVD iso?
 
 I'm trying to prep USB media on windows vista64.  Unlike the CDROM based 
 isos, the DVD install is compressed .gz. I assume the iso needs to be 
 extracted prior to loading it with UNetbootin and wonder if somehow gzip.exe 
 on Windows is messing with the sanctity (for lack of better technical term) 
 of the iso files.
 
 When I boot from a 8gb usb device I've prepped with 7.1 DVD using UNetbootin, 
 I get a missing or corrupted kernel image.  No problems with using the latest 
 BackTrack iso.
 
 I'm putting together a resource for running FreeBSD on the Asus Eee box at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/freebsd-eee-box?hl=en and would really 
 appreciate assistance with creating a USB boot media (preferably on Windows 
 but a FBSD 7.0 box is available as well) based on the DVD as the DVD is a lot 
 more convenient than a CDROM install.
 
 Is it possible to edit the syslinux file installed by UNetbootin to point to 
 a generic kernel in the kernels directory?

It looks like UNetbootIn is broken for FreeBSD ISO images (it doesn't do
the right thing when presented a FreeBSD ISO).

See
http://ivoras.sharanet.org/blog/tree/2009-02-07.installing-freebsd-on-acer-aspire-one-netbook.html
for a workaround.



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Re: memory limitations per process

2009-02-19 Thread Ivan Voras
af300...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm running into a per process memory limit at work (on Windoze though),
 but I'm wondering what's the limit per process in FreeBSD for 32 bit
 systems, ie i386? Is it 4gb or 2? From stuff I found on the Net, I'm
 guessing 4gb, but wanted to ask anyway. It seems to be an implementation
 deal limiting the windows world to 2gb per process rather than hardware
 limitations.

Your question is vague.

A 32-bit process can only access 4 GB of memory, but all processes also
have a bit of memory reserved for the kernel. On FreeBSD the
accessible memory for processes is closer to 3 GB than 2 or 4. See this
discussion for details: http://wiki.freebsd.org/KVA_PAGES

Also, FreeBSD processes have administrative limits to their size set by
defaults. See for example this:
http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2008-11/msg01363.html
. If you want to use the whole 3 GB for a process, you'll have to
increase maxdsiz. Note that you may need to experiment with this size
since your BIOS will probably not let you use 4 GB of physical memory
for the OS except if you enable PAE, and it's possible to create an
unbootable system by messing with kernel memory limits. You should
probably experiment on the loader command line first, not in the
loader.conf file.



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Re: Your Amazon.com Order

2009-02-19 Thread William Bentley

I think you may have replies to the wrong email;)



Becki Trujillo wrote:

I just placed an order, and I am wondering where exactly my order is
being shipped.  I want it shipped to Rebecca or Becki Trujillo POBox 178
Ojo Caliente, NM, and NOT to Franklin, TN/  My email is
becki.truji...@k12espanola.org

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Re: Re: memory limitations per process

2009-02-19 Thread af300wsm

On Feb 19, 2009 4:21pm, Ivan Voras ivo...@freebsd.org wrote:



Your question is vague.



Sorry, it was not intentional. I wasn't too sure how to ask the question.




A 32-bit process can only access 4 GB of memory, but all processes also



have a bit of memory reserved for the kernel. On FreeBSD the



accessible memory for processes is closer to 3 GB than 2 or 4. See this



discussion for details: http://wiki.freebsd.org/KVA_PAGES





Also, FreeBSD processes have administrative limits to their size set by



defaults. See for example this:



http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2008-11/msg01363.html



. If you want to use the whole 3 GB for a process, you'll have to



increase maxdsiz. Note that you may need to experiment with this size



since your BIOS will probably not let you use 4 GB of physical memory



for the OS except if you enable PAE, and it's possible to create an



unbootable system by messing with kernel memory limits. You should



probably experiment on the loader command line first, not in the



loader.conf file.





Thank you. This is exactly what I was hoping to learn. Thanks also for the  
links for further reading.


Andy
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Updating FBSD 7.1 to the latest ZFS

2009-02-19 Thread Bryant Eadon
I've scoured the web but haven't found the proper way to upgrade from using ZFS 
v6 to the latest ZFS supported on FreeBSD (v13?).  My zpool is shot and I'd like 
to create a fresh one starting with the latest and greatest.


Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to properly perform this 
upgrade ?


Thanks,
Bryant
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Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size

2009-02-19 Thread perryh
 I did consider running it off a straight cd, but I alter my routes
 enough through various tunnels I have established that this would
 be a pain.  (i.e. updating vtund configs) ...

System on CD, reading config from floppy?
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