Re: On the need for moderated questions lists
On Fri, 29 May 2009 15:14:20 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Not necessarily. There were 'rules' in Nazi Germany too, and there usually exist at least some 'rules' in oppressive regimes, but they do not necessarily, by virtue of their mere existence, lead to satisfying results. The difference is that you have choice here, people living in Nazi Germany (and Poland) that times didn't. First of all, this is not a personal comment, directed at you, but a comment on the idea of 'strict moderation'. Another thing that is worth stating is that invoking Godwin's law means I instantly lose any argument; I know that already. More importantly, I do not mean to sound disrespectful to you or other Polish people. Especially since my own family has lost people in WWII. But the choice you have in a strictly moderated mailing list is about the same as the choice my people had in that particular oppressive regime: leave or stay to fight a hopeless battle. That's what bothers me with strict moderation. It hinders the freedom of expression of people, forcing them to go through unreasonable hoops whenever their personality is slightly different from the 'permitted' forms of straight-jacket. already told you i will Thank you! I'll be watching for interesting updates :) OK no later than tomorrow morning There are 53 archive files for freebsd-questions in 2008. Their average size is 1,863,288 bytes. This means around 8,229,522 of email for each month of 2008 alone. This is a lot of text to go through, even in a semi-automated manner. So please, take your time. I'm not some sort of Dilbertian manager who wants you ``to do the impossible and do it a week ago, because we sold it already to someone''. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail
2009/5/29 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: itself, and how much of stupid-written PHP programs I don't think PHP itself is buggy, in fact I think badly written C programs are responsible for far more lossage. It all depends who write programs. Yes... but that has nothing to do with PHP. PHP, Python, Perl (especially), C, Ruby, there are all stupid buggy programs written in these. Why pick on PHP? Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Greylisting and new posters
Mel Flynn wrote: Is it possible to: a) Put a big-red-blink-popup-attentiongrabbing monster text into the subscription page about first posts being delayed with a link to greylisting? b) Hash the bodies of greylisted messages and reject / discard if the same body with a different msg id is being received? I'd be happy to contribute to b) if it is thought that the incoming mailer can handle the hashing and storage of this information. Hi, ok sorry about that mail yesterday :) I've been off the list for some time. It would be great if the confirmation mail and the subscription page would include the message: After confirming/activating your subscription your first mail may be delayed X minutes due to grey listing Also, it would be great to have a descriptive error message, rather than this: 450 4.7.1 questi...@freebsd.org: Recipient address rejected: Service is unavailable (in reply to RCPT TO command)) This text message indicates an error in the recipients end, while the 450 status indicates it's temporary. IIRC the postgrey port will provide a message along the lines sender postgreyed X seconds, see website for more information. Your option b) won't work: you propose to reply with a 2XX (OK) or 5XX (rejected, don't try again) if subscriber sends the message again. Problem is that the server after receiving the 450 error will retry after some time and this may be before the sender is white listed. So if you implement the solution you propose you risk that the original message is either discarded or rejected. So, you need to come up with an idea of how to distinguish between the server resending the same message and the subscriber resending the same message. If anything, I believe it's most likely that the subscriber will not send the exact same message, missing some blanks or double signature line etc... Now, you could take an active approach, when a subscriber's first message is grey listed, send an automatic reply that the message is grey listed for X seconds. But, then you have the problem that these auto replies will also be sent to innocent people who are being impersonated by some spammer, or to non-existing mail addresses which will generate loads of error messages. Question: Did grey listing actually reduce the amount of spam on the list? I eventually dumped it as it caused more problems than it solved. BR, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
2009/5/29 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Even 15 seconds of thinking is enough to understand that logging to other user and then su - gives completely no extra security. I don't buy this, given that root's login name is well known :) if someone can intercept the passwords you type, then he/she will intercept both user password you log in and then su password you type. He/she actually can gain more if you use su, as you may use the same user password somewhere else. But we're talking about vulnerability to dictionary and brute-force attacks. You'd have to first: Ascertain a username in the wheel group. Brute-force that password. THEN, you need to brute-force root's password. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: MIME attachments in mbox files
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:40:52PM -0400, Vince Sabio wrote: I have a need (well, I have lots of needs, but I'll try to stay focused here) Given the nature of most messages in the last few days, I'd suggest you're trying too hard. ;-) to be able to take a Windows zip file that is stored as a MIME attachment to an e-mail message in an Mbox-format spool file, and unzip the attachment. I actually need to script the process. In case it helps, I can dedicate a mailbox to the task. Anyone know of any FreeBSD utility(ies) that do(es) this? Generally, when you're talking about processing an mbox and doing something with message bodies, you're looking at formail plus procmail in combination with a tool that can interpret the mime structure and process the components (mimedefang, demine, stripmime, mimedecode, reformime, renattach, etc.). That's a roundabout way of saying, no, there are no FreeBSD utilities to do what you want, but there's lots to be found in ports. I'd start with a quick read through of some of those manpages, but at first glance, ripmime alone might do the trick: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ripmimeapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+7.2-RELEASE+and+Portsformat=ascii If necessary, I can write my own parser to strip out the attachment, in which case I'd need only a widget that can take in a MIME (base64) encoded zip file, convert it to binary, and unzip it. In that case, and assuming you're using Perl, MIME::base64 and IO::Uncompress::Unzip (or /usr/ports/archivers/unzip) is what you want. Bonus points for writing a one-liner. -- George ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: system reboot because of hdd
2009/5/29 claudiu vasadi claudiu.vas...@gmail.com: Hello ppl. Straight to business. FreeBSD 7.1-stable 2 hdd. 1 is ad2 and the other is ad6. ad2 is the BSD hdd, and ad6 is just for data (movies, music, etc). ad2 is a 80GB Samsung P-ata133 and ad6 is a WD 250GB S-ata2. While running a process that was trying to create a 25GB file on a 30 GB partition on the second hdd (ad2) I experienced ssh outage. Everything came back to life after a short perioud of ~2 minutes. So, again I started the process. This time, the outage was about 5 minutes. I was busy with something else and did not run the process again. 2 minutes after that i get a call from a customer that some thing is not working. so I check it and surprize, the OS rebooted itself. so, went to the logs and this is what i found out (/var/log/messages): May 29 22:26:30 da1 kernel: ad6: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying (1 retry left) LBA=419468447 May 29 22:26:35 da1 kernel: ad6: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying (0 retries left) LBA=419468447 May 29 22:26:41 da1 kernel: ad6: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 timed out LBA=419468447 May 29 22:26:41 da1 kernel: g_vfs_done():ad6s1f[WRITE(offset=19447808, length=16384)]error = 5 May 29 22:26:35 da1 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel May 29 22:26:35 da1 kernel: ad6: FAILURE - device detached May 29 22:26:35 da1 kernel: subdisk6: detached May 29 22:26:35 da1 kernel: ad6: detached May 29 22:26:35 da1 kernel: g_vfs_done():ad6s1f[WRITE(offset=36683776, length=16384)]error = 6 May 29 22:26:35 da1 kernel: g_vfs_done():ad6s1f[WRITE(offset=16908288, length=16384)]error = 6 May 29 22:26:35 da1 kernel: g_vfs_done():ad6s1f[WRITE(offset=36700160, length=16384)]error = 6 May 29 22:26:35 da1 kernel: g_vfs_done():ad6s1f[WRITE(offset=114688, length=16384)]error = 6 May 29 22:26:35 da1 kernel: panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs May 29 22:26:35 da1 kernel: cpuid = 0 May 29 22:26:35 da1 kernel: Uptime: 45d22h15m29s May 29 22:26:35 da1 kernel: Physical memory: 1003 MB May 29 22:26:35 da1 kernel: Dumping 232 MB: 217 201 185 169 153 137 121 105 89 73 57 41 25 9 and (/var/log/all.log): May 29 22:54:49 da1 fsck: /dev/ad6s1f: 6 files, 12 used, 17132271 free (31 frags, 2141530 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation) exacly where the file was created. but it was 1 not 6 files that i wanted to create but 1. the process that I run is dsmfmt of TSM server for Sun. it creates a file volume of a specific size for use in tsm server itself for defining storage pool capacity. so, I know that the hdd was to the limit. It could be a hardware issue I know, but right now dnt have resources to try somewere else so I'm asking a oppinion. Has anyone dealt with this situation before ? OS reboot because of high hdd load ? How much RAM have you got? Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
find and searching for specific expression in files
Hello, Can you please give me a hint how to use find to search for a specific text within files? I am using find in the following manner: find /path/to/files/ -mtime -2 -ls |less to find files which have been recently modified. But I would like to extend the search to find specific expression within files. -name is used to specify file name. How can I search for strings within text? It is probably in the man but I somehow overlook it. :( Thank you very much in advance! -- Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: system reboot because of hdd
ups, sorry. I forgot. I have 1GB ram, 1x module of DDR1 400 MHz (pc3200) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Software creating karaoke from mp3 files
Been unable to purchase karaoke of rock and roll greats like AC/DC, THE ROLLING STONES, THE DOORS, LED ZEPPELIN. Looking for advice on software that will allow me to edit out the singing voice tracks from a mp3 file and write the resulting music as a avi file so I can have the song words show on tv. If any one has done this type of thing, sure would like to hear about how they did it. Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:25:12AM +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Hello, Can you please give me a hint how to use find to search for a specific text within files? Generally, you don't - find(1) does not examine the contents of files by itself, just their directory information. You normally use grep(1) to search within a file. I am using find in the following manner: find /path/to/files/ -mtime -2 -ls |less to find files which have been recently modified. But I would like to extend the search to find specific expression within files. -name is used to specify file name. How can I search for strings within text? It is probably in the man but I somehow overlook it. :( Thank you very much in advance! I guess you could use the '-exec' expression in find(1) to execute grep(1) to search for a string in the files examined. Or you could use the output of find(1) as a list of files that are given as arguments to grep(1). -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
Can you please give me a hint how to use find to search for a specific text within files? Generally, you don't - find(1) does not examine the contents of files by itself, just their directory information. You normally use grep(1) to search within a file. Ahhh - I use grep on daily basis. Now why didn't I think of it? I got so fixed on the idea of using find that I completely forgot about grep Sorry for the noise and thank you very much for your help! -- Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Greylisting and new posters
On Saturday 30 May 2009 10:20:06 Erik Norgaard wrote: Mel Flynn wrote: Is it possible to: a) Put a big-red-blink-popup-attentiongrabbing monster text into the subscription page about first posts being delayed with a link to greylisting? b) Hash the bodies of greylisted messages and reject / discard if the same body with a different msg id is being received? I'd be happy to contribute to b) if it is thought that the incoming mailer can handle the hashing and storage of this information. Hi, ok sorry about that mail yesterday :) I've been off the list for some time. Don't be. It's been bothering me for a while and you weren't even the trigger. Ironically the trigger was the endless and rather pointless discussions about list moderation. The thing with double posts like these is that they are more frequent as of late and sometimes lead to 2 seperate threads about the same thing, where I already have half a reply ready only to notice that it was already covered in the other one. snip information Your option b) won't work: you propose to reply with a 2XX (OK) or 5XX (rejected, don't try again) if subscriber sends the message again. Problem is that the server after receiving the 450 error will retry after some time and this may be before the sender is white listed. So if you implement the solution you propose you risk that the original message is either discarded or rejected. Not unless the retrying mailer is really broken. So, you need to come up with an idea of how to distinguish between the server resending the same message and the subscriber resending the same message. If anything, I believe it's most likely that the subscriber will not send the exact same message, missing some blanks or double signature line etc... Most of the time it's identical, but I haven't investigated white-space differences. And like I mentioned in the original email, the msg id is the identifier. md5(body) as key generates msg-id foo, this message has msg-id bar, so redirect bar to /dev/null. Once foo delivered delete from state table. Question: Did grey listing actually reduce the amount of spam on the list? I eventually dumped it as it caused more problems than it solved. It does marginally for me, for the list I have no idea. It seems to be more effective with viruses then professional spam. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pfsync in GENERIC?
On Saturday 30 May 2009 05:13:27 Steven Schlansker wrote: On May 29, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Michael Powell wrote: Steven Schlansker wrote: [snip] A custom kernel can free up a little RAM, and maybe boot a little sooner, but it won't produce any earth shattering differences. I think most do it to 'shrink' down and eliminate anything which is not required for a particular piece of hardware. It decreases the possibility of something unneeded causing a problem, and enhances problem resolution by making the list of potential culprits smaller. Yeah, that's basically how I felt as well. However as to the something unneeded causing a problem I must say I've never had a GENERIC kernel fail due to some unneeded device driver, but I've definitely had a custom built kernel fail because of some tunable or driver I misconfigured! The general consensus is shifting indeed, as hardware makes more and bigger leaps then software. However, you will not notice a trimmed kernel's performance under standard workload, but will be able to squeeze more out of the box under extreme loads, due to the simple fact that the kernel has more memory to work with. Also, there are still a few tunables left that can only be set at compile time, MAXPHYS being the most prominent that comes to mind. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
2009/5/30 Zbigniew Szalbot z.szal...@lcwords.com Can you please give me a hint how to use find to search for a specific text within files? Generally, you don't - find(1) does not examine the contents of files by itself, just their directory information. You normally use grep(1) to search within a file. Ahhh - I use grep on daily basis. Now why didn't I think of it? I got so fixed on the idea of using find that I completely forgot about grep Sorry for the noise and thank you very much for your help! -- Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hello Mr. Zbigniew Szalbot, You can use egrep -r * (grep -e) to search for specific text pattern while you are in a directory with many sub directories. The output is nice because it tells you the file in which the text pattern was found :). a great day, v -- network warrior since 2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fw: UK Currency Symbol in 7.2 Console
OK, this is where I am up to. I have plugged my 7.1 Release hard disc back in and I get £ signs no problem. So, I then unplug my KVM and mini keyboard and plug standard ps2 kb / ps2 mouse in. I do a minimal install of 7.2 Release from DVD and make sure I have uk.cp850 in my /etc/rc.conf Guess what? Theres no difference - still no £ signs at console, I get a beep. So theres some difference in the way 7.2 looks at things compared to 7.1. Out of interest the kb controler is on this mobo - Asus M2N68-AM I think its a bug or mis-detection etc Do I report this? Or ask for help on a different list? I dont mind doinf whatever tests are required to resolve this issue. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
On Saturday 30 May 2009 13:56:22 Valentin Bud wrote: 2009/5/30 Zbigniew Szalbot z.szal...@lcwords.com Can you please give me a hint how to use find to search for a specific text within files? Generally, you don't - find(1) does not examine the contents of files by itself, just their directory information. You normally use grep(1) to search within a file. Ahhh - I use grep on daily basis. Now why didn't I think of it? I got so fixed on the idea of using find that I completely forgot about grep Sorry for the noise and thank you very much for your help! -- Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hello Mr. Zbigniew Szalbot, You can use egrep -r * (grep -e) to search for specific text pattern while you are in a directory with many sub directories. The output is nice because it tells you the file in which the text pattern was found :). Discouraged because: - it's possible to hit maxarglen if the root directory has many subdirectories. - Will not search hidden directories in the root directory because of the shell glob - cannot be combined with other search criteria such as the file's timestamp. find . -type f -mtime 2 -exec grep '^Subject: \[SPAM\]' {} + will find all messages in a maildir modified within the last 2 minutes where the subject has been flagged as spam. I use + rather then ; so that one invocation for grep is done whenever maxarglen is hit (like if you used xargs(1)), rather then one grep per file. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.netmel.flynn%2bfbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Saturday 30 May 2009 13:56:22 Valentin Bud wrote: 2009/5/30 Zbigniew Szalbot z.szal...@lcwords.com Can you please give me a hint how to use find to search for a specific text within files? Generally, you don't - find(1) does not examine the contents of files by itself, just their directory information. You normally use grep(1) to search within a file. Ahhh - I use grep on daily basis. Now why didn't I think of it? I got so fixed on the idea of using find that I completely forgot about grep Sorry for the noise and thank you very much for your help! -- Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hello Mr. Zbigniew Szalbot, You can use egrep -r * (grep -e) to search for specific text pattern while you are in a directory with many sub directories. The output is nice because it tells you the file in which the text pattern was found :). Discouraged because: - it's possible to hit maxarglen if the root directory has many subdirectories. Never occured so i didn't have a clue about it :|. - Will not search hidden directories in the root directory because of the shell glob - cannot be combined with other search criteria such as the file's timestamp. find . -type f -mtime 2 -exec grep '^Subject: \[SPAM\]' {} + will find all messages in a maildir modified within the last 2 minutes where the subject has been flagged as spam. I use + rather then ; so that one invocation for grep is done whenever maxarglen is hit (like if you used xargs(1)), rather then one grep per file. -- Mel This list is amazing because everyday you learn something new. Thanks. a great day, v -- network warrior since 2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: MIME attachments in mbox files
On Fri, 29 May 2009 23:40:52 -0400 Vince Sabio vi...@vjs.org wrote: I have a need (well, I have lots of needs, but I'll try to stay focused here) to be able to take a Windows zip file that is stored as a MIME attachment to an e-mail message in an Mbox-format spool file, and unzip the attachment. I actually need to script the process. In case it helps, I can dedicate a mailbox to the task. If necessary, I can write my own parser to strip out the attachment, in which case I'd need only a widget that can take in a MIME (base64) encoded zip file, convert it to binary, and unzip it. Anyone know of any FreeBSD utility(ies) that do(es) this? /usr/ports/converters/mpack /usr/ports/archivers/unzip You could first export/save each such message to a separate file and run munpack(1) on it to extract any base64 attachment/s, then unzip(1) any identifiable zipfiles. You can most likely rely on the return code from 'unzip -t $file' to check any files are valid zipfiles, if munpack can't recover the original filename from the MIME headers. cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
The usefulness of government intervention into private lives, businesses, etc. is never going to be resolved on this forum. I am just going to leave with something I received at a business lecture a few years ago. It was by a Princeton professor, Dr. Webner I believe. quote Innovation has never come from a bureau. Bureaucracy is antithetical to innovation. What's more, it is bloody fascist. God forefend the day when every independent entity has to check with some overweening bureaucracy before they try something. Anyone who makes any claim to respecting liberty and then endorses this kind of nonsense should feel a considerable amount of shame for his or her hypocrisy and embrace of tyranny. /quote -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com There will be sex after death, we just won't be able to feel it. Lily Tomlin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found
Hello, I have setup FreeBSD recently, can somebody help me with one interesting thing - Bind9 slave DNS server, everything is works great, but I got a problem with extended logging of xfer, etc. Bind9 started in chroot: root 7880.0 0.1 3156 1004 ?? Ss Fri01AM 0:02.10 /usr/sbin/syslogd -l /var/run/log -l /var/named/var/run/log -s bind30792 0.0 1.2 16212 12864 ?? Is4:10PM 0:00.23 /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind Configuration of logging channels from named.conf: logging { channel xfer { file /var/named/var/log/xfer.log versions 3 size 10m; print-time yes; print-severity yes; severity info; }; channel lame { file /var/named/var/log/lame.log versions 2 size 10m; print-time yes; print-severity yes; severity info; }; channel config { file /var/named/var/log/conf.log versions 3 size 10m; print-time yes; print-severity yes; severity info; }; channel security { file /var/named/var/log/security.log versions 3 size 10m; print-time yes; print-severity yes; severity info; }; category xfer-in { xfer; }; category xfer-out { xfer; }; category notify { xfer; }; category lame-servers { lame; }; category config { config; }; category security { security; }; category default { default_syslog; default_debug; }; }; Next, I've create files in /var/named/var/log and chown them to bind:wheel (cause of -u bind is defined above): [po...@mgork23-gw /var/named/var/log]$ ls -la total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 bind wheel 512 May 30 16:09 . drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 512 May 21 19:16 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 bind wheel0 May 30 14:54 conf.log -rw-r--r-- 1 bind wheel0 May 30 14:55 lame.log -rw-r--r-- 1 bind wheel0 May 30 14:55 security.log -rw-r--r-- 1 bind wheel0 May 30 14:54 xfer.log But I get following messages in /var/log/messages: May 30 16:27:42 srv named[31139]: starting BIND 9.4.2 -t /var/named -u bind May 30 16:27:42 srv named[31139]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 May 30 16:27:42 srv named[31139]: command channel listening on ::1#953 May 30 16:27:42 srv named[31139]: logging channel 'xfer' file '/var/named/var/log/xfer.log': file not found May 30 16:27:42 srv named[31139]: logging channel 'lame' file '/var/named/var/log/lame.log': file not found May 30 16:27:42 srv named[31139]: logging channel 'config' file '/var/named/var/log/conf.log': file not found May 30 16:27:42 srv named[31139]: logging channel 'security' file '/var/named/log/security.log': file not found May 30 16:27:42 srv named[31139]: running May 30 16:27:42 srv named[31139]: isc_log_open '/var/named/var/log/xfer.log' failed: file not found Changing permissions and putting log-files in different places (with changing paths in named.conf of course) has no effect. I see that problem is pretty silly but searching info about this doesn't say something special - I still got file not found in /var/messages. Maybe Iam don't understand where files must be placed, so, thanks in advance for everybody who can explain how it works :) VP v.prokof...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
GSM to Serial Converter
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Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found
On Saturday 30 May 2009 14:50:31 Prokofyev Vladislav wrote: Bind9 started in chroot: root 7880.0 0.1 3156 1004 ?? Ss Fri01AM 0:02.10 /usr/sbin/syslogd -l /var/run/log -l /var/named/var/run/log -s bind30792 0.0 1.2 16212 12864 ?? Is4:10PM 0:00.23 /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind Configuration of logging channels from named.conf: logging { channel xfer { file /var/named/var/log/xfer.log versions 3 size 10m; The named running chrooted has no clue about /var/named. You can either use ducttape: cd /var/named/var sudo ln -s .. named or just strip /var/named from your config file, hence use /var/log/xfer.log. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found
Prokofyev Vladislav wrote: Hello, I have setup FreeBSD recently, can somebody help me with one interesting thing - Bind9 slave DNS server, everything is works great, but I got a problem with extended logging of xfer, etc. Bind9 started in chroot: root 7880.0 0.1 3156 1004 ?? Ss Fri01AM 0:02.10 /usr/sbin/syslogd -l /var/run/log -l /var/named/var/run/log -s bind30792 0.0 1.2 16212 12864 ?? Is4:10PM 0:00.23 /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind [snip] Changing permissions and putting log-files in different places (with changing paths in named.conf of course) has no effect. I see that problem is pretty silly but searching info about this doesn't say something special - I still got file not found in /var/messages. Maybe Iam don't understand where files must be placed, so, thanks in advance for everybody who can explain how it works :) Don't know if this will help, but took a quick look at my box here at home and have the following in my rc.conf - but I don't have logging turned on with this machine. Note the last line. So the logs should be in /var/named/var/log named_enable=YES named_program=/usr/sbin/named named_chrootdir=/var/named -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GSM to Serial Converter
Exemys wrote: This is a message in multipart MIME format. Your mail client should not be displaying this. Consider upgrading your mail client to view this message correctly. Wrong list. You should consider upgrading *your* mail client to send messages correctly; general consensus, and I'll leave it to another troll to quote the relevant RFC's. ;-) Oh, and upgrade your keyboard to one with an ENTER key as well, please. :-P Kevin Kinsey -- Ring around the collar. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 03:13:13PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Done the same with HP Laserjet 4000 duplex - it even received an IP automatically via DHCP, so I just had to arp -a and edit /etc/hosts and /etc/printcap. The lpq / lprm tools seemed to operate on the printer server inside the printer. For non-ethernet printers like my laserjet 4 there are often available original print server modules for them for really nothing (i paid 10$) if not, and you need ethernet connectivity, then this http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=50pl1_id=7pl2_id=34 is a perfect choice. i recommend it for every unix user. Thanks for the pointer! I was actually looking for a set of ethernet print servers, and this looks very promising. Can you confirm that the PS-1206P works well under RELENG_7? As they are advertised as mostly for windows, i actually found configuring it under unix very simple exactly as you said (/etc/printcap), while incredibly complex under windows ;) TIA, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found
named_enable=YES named_program=/usr/sbin/named named_chrootdir=/var/named -Mike After adding these options on my system, named didn't start at boot. Manully attempt to start it via '/etc/rc.d/named start' brought to the following error: /etc/rc.d/named: WARNING: run_rc_command: cannot run /usr/sbin/named Anyway, thank you for time you've spent to write an answer. Hope this thread will help somebody who is stuck with the same problem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
is a perfect choice. i recommend it for every unix user. Thanks for the pointer! I was actually looking for a set of ethernet print servers, and this looks very promising. Can you confirm that the PS-1206P works well under RELENG_7? it can't. it's ethernet device not PC peripheral so it doesn't run under FreeBSD or whatever, but on LAN :) in /etc/printcap add: printer1:blahblah:sh:rm=IP.number.put.here:sd=/var/spool/lpd/printer1:lf=/var/log/printer1: and go. Of course add postscript filters if you like ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fresh install 7.2-RELEASE i386, X won't start
/Leslie of course turn off hald, and run moused. Unfortunately that did not fix the problem :-( What do I test next? /Leslie do X -configure and look at xorg.conf then try fixing something there. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Failure to get past a PCI bridge
On Thu, 28 May 2009 16:24:00 +0200 Josef Moellers josef.moell...@ts.fujitsu.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install 7.2-RELEASE on a pretty new system (a Fujitsu RX300S5). The first obstacle was the fact that while the system has an AT-Keyboard-Controller, it ist not used (keyboard and mouse are connected via USB) and I have found that I can get past that by specifying set hint.atkbd.0.disabled=1 set hint.atkbdc.0.disabled=1 The install kernel then boots properly and reaches the Country Selection. At that point, no keyboard input is accepted. An optical mouse is off, so I assume the keyboard to be off, too. I have hooked up a serial connection to log the kernel's output (some 1000+ lines): set boot_serial=1 set boot_verbose=1 set boot_multicons=1 set console=comconsole vidconsole The following lines make me wonder if the kernel fails to get past PCI bridges and this can't reach the UHCI controllers: pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge on acpi0 pcib0: could not get PCI interrupt routing table for \_SB_.CPU0 - AE_NOT_FOUND : pcib1: ACPI Host-PCI bridge on acpi0 pcib1: could not get PCI interrupt routing table for \_SB_.CPU1 - AE_NOT_FOUND : pcib2: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pcib2: couldn't find _ADR pcib2: trying bus number 2 pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2 pci2: domain=0, physical bus=2 I talked to the guy who does the BIOS for the machine and he says that it makes no sense for the kernel to try and find the _PRT for \_SB_.CPU0 or \_SB_.CPU1! Can anyone help? I haven't been using FreeBSD since 4.2 and haven't dug through deep kernel functions for quite some time. Not directly, but you may do better posting that to the a...@freebsd.org list. See archives at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-acpi/ cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What is this forum for?
Hey folks, all of you, could I please sugggest that this entire thread (under a variety of subject names) is an abuse of the lists? Generally i do agree with you. But - in my opinion there are lots of other abuses. Whenever i pointed this out i got tons of protests from others. So please - who should decide what's on and whats off topic? For me - if talks about programs just because it runs under FreeBSD is OK, then everything is OK. About politics, sport, choosing printservers. Why telling someone that want to switch from windows to FreeBSD that better stay with windows is wrong? It's my opinion and my way to help him/her to save time. And it's proved, over hundred people i know that ever tried to switch to linux or FreeBSD, got back to windows within short time. Of course - switching the way of using computer from windows-style to unix-style is another thing, is very welcome and is likely to succeed. The argument it's nothing wrong to help others is a nonsense too. Yes - help, but about FreeBSD, or on other list, or on priv. Or maybe democratic method - when more and louder shouts it's right - it's right?! Doesn't you see a nonsense?! Once again - please DO MODERATED list, with clearly defined rules what's right and what's not. Whatever the rules will be (approved/defined by FreeBSD owners) - it will be OK. About stats i had to do - i AM working on this, but i was not aware how much work it needs. I'm reading mails from february each year, and now processed four years only. So sorry for not doing it for today morning, but i wasn't aware it's too short time. Another question - some of you said that outdated hardware is welcome too as gifts for FreeBSD team. I actually have lots of them, and NON-typical things, that would be useful. I prepared a list, and can make photos. I already sent a mail to one developer but got no response. Maybe he is just busy or absent, anyway what's the best address for this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail
It's a detailed how-to but consider the following: a) With Oracle acquiring Sun, one should move to PostgreSQL where ever possible. is this a reason, or that simply mysql is just slow and inefficient compared to postgreSQL? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What is this forum for?
UPS.. maybe better not write that, as people from governments may get this new idea. Worse, the EU will consider 'super tankers' unfair to smaller sized tankers and require super tankers to only carry half as much cargo. but this will make CO2 emission higher as half-loaded supertanker needs more than half of fuel to go. Of course i wish it's just a joke like my before, but really - what today is a joke, tomorrow is EU idea, and soon is a law. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found
On Saturday 30 May 2009 17:01:17 Prokofyev Vladislav wrote: The named running chrooted has no clue about /var/named. You can either use ducttape: cd /var/named/var sudo ln -s .. named or just strip /var/named from your config file, hence use /var/log/xfer.log. -- Mel This helped, thank you a lot. So, if I think in a right way, /usr/sbin/named with -t start option don't effect on any symlinks etc. Erm, yes or ... no. I suggest you read up on chroot. The short answer is that relative symlinks within the chroot environment work while absolute ones should take into the account the new filesystem root. I didn't pay attention to this cause named(8) says: -t directory Chroot to directory after processing the command line arguments, but before reading the configuration file. and have a look at what /etc/namedb really is: # ls -l /etc/namedb lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 21 May 21 06:24 /etc/namedb - /var/named/etc/namedb And this demonstrates chroot a bit: # cp /rescue/ls /var/named/ # chroot /var/named /ls -l /etc/namedb total 1 drwxr-xr-x 2 53 0512 Feb 28 05:57 dynamic drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0512 May 15 13:42 master -rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 11714 May 15 14:40 named.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 2956 May 15 13:42 named.root -rw--- 1 53 0 97 Apr 18 10:29 rndc.key drwxr-xr-x 2 53 0512 May 30 11:21 slave Warning: This option should be used in conjunction with the -u option, as chrooting a process running as root doesn't enhance security on most systems; the way chroot(2) is defined allows a process with root privileges to escape a chroot jail. And I thought that all actions for proper work are made by named :) They are, you just need reference the right path, the one without /var/named, or use relative paths where the working directory is /etc/namedb. So one would get to /var/log using: file ../../var/log/xfer; -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: On the need for moderated questions lists
You did all fine, i have the same configured program in my linux/openbsd/netbsd/solaris/whatever OS and it works fine So . . . basically, it's okay for someone to ask about X if that person reread again. You - intentionally or unintentionally - change what i write to mean something else. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Competition law (was Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint)
I know what socialism means. You seem not to. I haven't anywhere advocated state ownership of businesses - in fact I very clearly stated that I believe in a free market with only that level of regulation required to keep it free from monopoly abuse. You are wrong. there is no monopoly abuse when monopoly doesn't have extra support from government. How could monopoly (if monopoly happen at all) abuse ? Selling below costs? OK let they sell, others will wait a bit or even buy the products until monopoly will not have money to continue this, then compete with the monopoly by selling back what they bought on below-cost prices. Forcing others to stop producing? how? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: On the need for moderated questions lists
that's why i opt for moderation. because it's completely stupid as there are no rules and no enforcement. On Fri, 29 May 2009, gabe wrote: This is stupid, I'm unsubscribing. jeez -Original Message- From: Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:41 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: On the need for moderated questions lists On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 07:13:49PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: software that runs on multiple OSes (and not *just* FreeBSD) to run an extra system, running some other OS. no. i expect them to ask THAT program support. In really rare cases when they got an answer like You did all fine, i have the same configured program in my linux/openbsd/netbsd/solaris/whatever OS and it works fine So . . . basically, it's okay for someone to ask about X if that person also runs Linux, but not if that person doesn't. That's the logical consequence of your argument thus far. How well have you actually thought this through? They it's place to ask because certainly there's something wrong with the port. I don't recall that being an obvious and necessary condition of the example -- and that didn't seem to matter when you suggested that it might be on-topic if the querent also happens to have a Linux-based system handy. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth FreeBSD Secure Programming Guidelines: In fact, never ever use gets() or sprintf(), period. If you do - we will send evil dwarfs after you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
Wojciech Puchar said the following on 2009-05-28 23:06: Poland is now slowly losing independence Poland has never had any independence. Your argument is moot. generally you are right. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: MIME attachments in mbox files
I have a need (well, I have lots of needs, but I'll try to stay focused here) to be able to take a Windows zip file that is stored as a MIME attachment to an e-mail message in an Mbox-format spool file, and unzip the attachment. I actually need to script the process. In case it helps, I can dedicate a mailbox to the task. If necessary, I can write my own parser to strip out the attachment, in which case I'd need only a widget that can take in a MIME (base64) encoded zip file, convert it to binary, and unzip it. Anyone know of any FreeBSD utility(ies) that do(es) this? i'm not sure if i understand well what you want, but install metamail package from ports. there is here program that can just extract all attachments to files. then you can unzip ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
Basic law of marketing is to give the public what they want. No. The company CREATES a need for their product. That's the number one rule. if they succeed - what's wrong? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: On the need for moderated questions lists
But the choice you have in a strictly moderated mailing list is about the same as the choice my people had in that particular oppressive regime: leave or stay to fight a hopeless battle. Thinking your way - if someone will come to my home and will do what i do not accept - can i force him to go out? Yes i can. He can do the same in another house where it's accepted. Those who don't agree with the moderation rules will use unmoderated one (this), with all it's (dis)adventages. That's what bothers me with strict moderation. It hinders the freedom of expression of people, forcing them to go through unreasonable hoops whenever their personality is slightly different from the 'permitted' forms of straight-jacket. You talk about that, but when i hear things like shut up it's fine of course? So how you define freedom? Freedom for all EXCEPT someone? You seem to favor rules defined by those who shouts louder. I at first placed thought about leaving that list at all, seeing that rulership of shouting crowd starts to win. Unfortunately to many here i stayed and will stay, because i know that what start at discussion forum WILL end in the product - FreeBSD. The same happened in linux, (not exactly) the same happened with NetBSD, and now there is no usable unix other than FreeBSD. Just please don't joke and say OpenBSD ;) it's not even funny. This is a lot of text to go through, even in a semi-automated manner. it's not possible to automatize this unfortunately. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
But we're talking about vulnerability to dictionary and brute-force attacks. You'd have to first: Ascertain a username in the wheel group. As time needed to brute-force crack any of my password is incomparably longer than the age of universe, this is not an argument. It's just a matter to use good passwords ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
I am using find in the following manner: find /path/to/files/ -mtime -2 -ls |less to find files which have been recently modified. But I would like to extend the search to find specific expression within files. -name is used to specify file name. How can I search for strings within text? no matter how you generate the list of files to search, use grep then on that list ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail
On Saturday 30 May 2009 17:31:35 Wojciech Puchar wrote: It's a detailed how-to but consider the following: a) With Oracle acquiring Sun, one should move to PostgreSQL where ever possible. is this a reason, or that simply mysql is just slow and inefficient compared to postgreSQL? Depends on your usage. I'd say for SMTP table lookups, MySQL can out perform PostgreSQL, unless one uses persistent connections (postfix proxy-map to be on topic). The reason for this is that the connection start up for MySQL has lower overhead then for PostgreSQL. So typically with small tables (lookup maps for transport and users are generally not in the order of millions) and lots of connections MySQL could win. On the other hand, PostgreSQL scales better, especially now that the Sysv IPC shared memory limit in FreeBSD has been fixed. [1] The reason for my original remark is that Oracle now acquired SAP DB, MySQL and Berkeley DB, so the best scenario I can see is that they improve the underused Berkeley DB table handler for MySQL and leave the rest in-tact, but I more expect them to phase out MySQL or grow it with Oracle features, neither of which I personally consider a good thing. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=182581+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2009/freebsd- hackers/20090315.freebsd-hackers -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Software creating karaoke from mp3 files
Been unable to purchase karaoke of rock and roll greats like AC/DC, THE ROLLING STONES, THE DOORS, LED ZEPPELIN. Looking for advice on software that AFAIK nobody yet invented so good voice analyzer that could separate out music and speech. But there are programs that ROUGHLY removes speech by filtering some frequency band. effect is crappy but there's something. Look at /usr/ports/INDEX maybe there is something for that but i don't know one ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Greylisting and new posters
Don't be. It's been bothering me for a while and you weren't even the trigger. Ironically the trigger was the endless and rather pointless discussions about list moderation. most probably you didn't read the points. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
because it tells you the file in which the text pattern was found :). Discouraged because: - it's possible to hit maxarglen if the root directory has many subdirectories. xargs is usefull too. i would it as forking for each file will make processing really slow. xargs can cut input data into given chunks with -n option, so grep will be called for say 100 files at once. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
The usefulness of government intervention into private lives, businesses, etc. is never going to be resolved on this forum. And will it be resolved with discussion anywhere else with anyone else? ;) Only usage of crude force can change the way things go today. And both me and anyone on that list doesn't have such force. Innovation has never come from a bureau. The same as knowledge never come from schools. Most innovators was quite bad at school, ignored school at all, or was good, but then had to relearn everything from scratch. And - as you said, there are very little, and none great, inventions from any government sponsored scientific groups. More important - if sponsoring is targeted at some achievement (like finding a cure for cancer) the most stupid thing such group can do is to achieve what required and lose funding. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 05:18:07PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: is a perfect choice. i recommend it for every unix user. Thanks for the pointer! I was actually looking for a set of ethernet print servers, and this looks very promising. Can you confirm that the PS-1206P works well under RELENG_7? it can't. Okay, thank you. I'll order one and test drive it here, and if it works as it should, I'll order the remaining 200 or so if we're satisfied. ;) it's ethernet device not PC peripheral so it doesn't run under FreeBSD or whatever, but on LAN :) in /etc/printcap add: printer1:blahblah:sh:rm=IP.number.put.here:sd=/var/spool/lpd/printer1:lf=/var/log/printer1: I know how to do that, but thanks nonetheless. We have a lot of these little boxes around: http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=322 hooked on old HP DeskJets for moderate to heavy office use, but knowing about alternatives is always good. and go. Of course add postscript filters if you like Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Filter request Re: GSM to Serial Converter
Could you please add filter for incoming mail to remove things like that from improperly configured client? It's always the same message so it's simple On Sat, 30 May 2009, Exemys wrote: This is a message in multipart MIME format. Your mail client should not be displaying this. Consider upgrading your mail client to view this message correctly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail
Depends on your usage. I'd say for SMTP table lookups, MySQL can out perform PostgreSQL, unless one uses persistent connections (postfix proxy-map to be on topic). The reason for this is that the connection start up for MySQL has lower overhead then for PostgreSQL. for just quick searching of keys isn't just berkeley DB or maybe sqlite the best. there will be no connecting at all. anyway sqlite is much more useful ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
it can't. Okay, thank you. I'll order one and test drive it here, and if it works as it should, I'll order the remaining 200 or so if we're satisfied. ;) so ask edimax directly you certainly get a discount on it. But of course test before. I installed only 7 in various places. hooked on old HP DeskJets for moderate to heavy office use, but knowing about alternatives is always good. these LPT-ethernet bridges from edimax was really cheap at least here. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail
On Sat, 30 May 2009 17:31:35 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: It's a detailed how-to but consider the following: a) With Oracle acquiring Sun, one should move to PostgreSQL where ever possible. is this a reason, or that simply mysql is just slow and inefficient compared to postgreSQL? There are many factors that could be contributing to the speed of MySQL. For starters, what version are you employing? I believe databases/mysql60-server is the latest version in the ports tree. Have you tried using: BUILD_OPTIMIZED=yes BUILD_STATIC=yes Their use could improve the speed of MySQL. There are other options in the Makefile. Unfortunately, you have to set them manually. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Theory is gray, but the golden tree of life is green. Goethe signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
On Saturday 30 May 2009 17:57:14 Wojciech Puchar wrote: because it tells you the file in which the text pattern was found :). Discouraged because: - it's possible to hit maxarglen if the root directory has many subdirectories. xargs is usefull too. i would it as forking for each file will make processing really slow. xargs can cut input data into given chunks with -n option, so grep will be called for say 100 files at once. Cut off the message a bit later and you will see that using a '+' to terminate the exec primitive emulates xargs behavior: On Saturday 30 May 2009 14:12:50 Mel Flynn wrote: I use + rather then ; so that one invocation for grep is done whenever maxarglen is hit (like if you used xargs(1)), rather then one grep per file. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
On Sat, 30 May 2009 14:12:50 +0200 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Saturday 30 May 2009 13:56:22 Valentin Bud wrote: 2009/5/30 Zbigniew Szalbot z.szal...@lcwords.com You can use egrep -r * (grep -e) to search for specific text pattern while you are in a directory with many sub directories. The output is nice because it tells you the file in which the text pattern was found :). Discouraged because: - it's possible to hit maxarglen if the root directory has many subdirectories. - Will not search hidden directories in the root directory because of the shell glob You can replace egrep -r string * with egrep -r string . i.e. recurse from the current directory, rather than search or recurse on everything that matches *. That avoids the first two problems, and most of the time the third doesn't matter - cannot be combined with other search criteria such as the file's timestamp. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
Cut off the message a bit later and you will see that using a '+' to terminate the exec primitive emulates xargs behavior: thanks. i didn't know that On Saturday 30 May 2009 14:12:50 Mel Flynn wrote: I use + rather then ; so that one invocation for grep is done whenever maxarglen is hit (like if you used xargs(1)), rather then one grep per file. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail
you tried using: BUILD_OPTIMIZED=yes BUILD_STATIC=yes Their use could improve the speed of MySQL. the latter (static) will only optimize mysql startup time ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
On Saturday 30 May 2009 18:14:49 RW wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2009 14:12:50 +0200 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Saturday 30 May 2009 13:56:22 Valentin Bud wrote: 2009/5/30 Zbigniew Szalbot z.szal...@lcwords.com You can use egrep -r * (grep -e) to search for specific text pattern while you are in a directory with many sub directories. The output is nice because it tells you the file in which the text pattern was found :). Discouraged because: - it's possible to hit maxarglen if the root directory has many subdirectories. - Will not search hidden directories in the root directory because of the shell glob You can replace egrep -r string * with egrep -r string . i.e. recurse from the current directory, rather than search or recurse on everything that matches *. That avoids the first two problems, and most of the time the third doesn't matter OP (and myself) have a different concept of 'most of the time'. But this may be cause I'm already so used to this concept that my fingers have it store locally and I could've used grep -r or the overall win is minimal (I often use -name '*.h', and arguably in small trees it wouldn't matter). - cannot be combined with other search criteria such as the file's timestamp. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
On Sat, 30 May 2009 11:25:12 +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot z.szal...@lcwords.com wrote: Hello, Can you please give me a hint how to use find to search for a specific text within files? One valid solution is to combine find (to find the files) and grep (to search in them). For the combination, you can use the famous back-tics. % grep expression `find /path/to/files/ -mtime -2 -print` Of course, there are surely easier, faster and better means, but from this one, I know it just works. :-) Furthermore, I think -print is optional here. If you want to use the Midnight Commander, use Meta-? for a combined dialog: +- Find File --+ | | | Start at: ___[^] | | | | Filename: ___[^] | | | | Content: ___[^] | | | | [ ] case Sensitive | | | | [ OK ] [ Tree ][ Cancel ] | +--+ That's what I mostly use. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
the famous back-tics. % grep expression `find /path/to/files/ -mtime -2 -print` Of course, there are surely easier, faster and better means, but from this one, I know it just works. :-) Furthermore, I unless filelist exceed max lenght of arguments and unfortunately it happens often ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: MIME attachments in mbox files
** At 00:56 -0700 on 05/30/2009, George Davidovich wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:40:52PM -0400, Vince Sabio wrote: I have a need (well, I have lots of needs, but I'll try to stay focused here) Given the nature of most messages in the last few days, I'd suggest you're trying too hard. ;-) Yeah, I was considering leading with an apology for the on-topic post. g to be able to take a Windows zip file that is stored as a MIME attachment to an e-mail message in an Mbox-format spool file, and unzip the attachment. I actually need to script the process. In case it helps, I can dedicate a mailbox to the task. Anyone know of any FreeBSD utility(ies) that do(es) this? Generally, when you're talking about processing an mbox and doing something with message bodies, you're looking at formail plus procmail in combination with a tool that can interpret the mime structure and process the components (mimedefang, demine, stripmime, mimedecode, reformime, renattach, etc.). That's a roundabout way of saying, no, there are no FreeBSD utilities to do what you want, but there's lots to be found in ports. Sorry, I misspoke: sed 's/utilities/ports/g' I'd start with a quick read through of some of those manpages, but at first glance, ripmime alone might do the trick: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ripmimeapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+7.2-RELEASE+and+Portsformat=ascii This, and Ian's munpack suggestion, will both do what I need -- but with one [very minor] exception: There is no way to override the file name specified in the MIME header (if present, which, in my case, it typically will be) and force it to use a specific output file name. Or just send the output to stdout, so I can redirect it to a file name of my choice (or to unzip). Not a show stopper by any means, just requires a workaround. I suspect that the authors of these utilities (there I go again) expected they would be invoked interactively. If necessary, I can write my own parser to strip out the attachment, in which case I'd need only a widget that can take in a MIME (base64) encoded zip file, convert it to binary, and unzip it. In that case, and assuming you're using Perl, MIME::base64 and IO::Uncompress::Unzip (or /usr/ports/archivers/unzip) is what you want. Bonus points for writing a one-liner. Using C, but shelling out where necessary to get stuff done. It looks like {ripmime, munpack} and unzip will do the trick. Many thanks for the pointers. I now return you to your regularly scheduled META discussion(s)... :-) __ Vince Sabio vi...@vjs.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail
On Saturday 30 May 2009 18:05:12 Wojciech Puchar wrote: Depends on your usage. I'd say for SMTP table lookups, MySQL can out perform PostgreSQL, unless one uses persistent connections (postfix proxy-map to be on topic). The reason for this is that the connection start up for MySQL has lower overhead then for PostgreSQL. for just quick searching of keys isn't just berkeley DB or maybe sqlite the best. there will be no connecting at all. anyway sqlite is much more useful Only for single machine installs as I wouldn't recommend sqlite over NFS to share the database. The idea was to have one machine (or a replicated cluster) with a database and several mail servers getting their information from there. It's less about performance, more about a preference of how you want to manage your information. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Best practices in finding out a trojan
Hello, I know this has practically no connection with FreeBSD but I have a site on a shared hosting and it appears the site got a trojan called JS:Cruzer-D. I cannot find anything about it as it appears to be relatively new (28 May). Anyway, I am trying to browse through the joomla cms files in hope of locating it. I haven't seen anything suspicious with the file modification time (and I have checked those which have been modified within 48h period. I am a bit stuck at the moment and if you can offer any advice on how to troubleshoot such things on a UNIX system, I'd be really, really thankful! There is some information about JS:Cruzer-C on the web but code of this trojan is not present on the infected website (I have grepped all the files today). Ah, I will add that the trojan is only reported by avast antivirus when people visit the site in IE (in other browers, this problem does not appear). Best regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Best practices in finding out a trojan
On Saturday 30 May 2009 19:40:55 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: I know this has practically no connection with FreeBSD but I have a site on a shared hosting and it appears the site got a trojan called JS:Cruzer-D. I cannot find anything about it as it appears to be relatively new (28 May). Anyway, I am trying to browse through the joomla cms files in hope of locating it. I haven't seen anything suspicious with the file modification time (and I have checked those which have been modified within 48h period. Normally, grep and find would do it, or running clamav over the system. However, from what I'm reading on the web, avast gives false positives for this trojan. Even flagging a gif image: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=45730.msg383138#msg383138 So I wouldn't worry about finding it, but more about informing your users that there is no trojan on the site and that they should complain with avast about this issue. You could ask visitors to try and identify the file that sets off this false positive. Procedure for that is described in above post. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
At 6:44 PM +0200 5/30/09, Wojciech Puchar wrote: the famous back-tics. % grep expression `find /path/to/files/ -mtime -2 -print` Of course, there are surely easier, faster and better means, but from this one, I know it just works. :-) Furthermore, I unless filelist exceed max lenght of arguments and unfortunately it happens often I use bash as my default shell and have become rather enamored with the construct make-a-list | while read x; do pretty-much-whatever $x; done which should get around the list length limitations and provides for doing extras between the do and the done. Specifically: find /path/to/files/ -mtime -2 -print | \ while read x; do grep expression $x; done -- Walter M. Pawley w...@wump.org Wump Research Company 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97471 541-672-8975 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
make-a-list | while read x; do pretty-much-whatever $x; done which should get around the list length limitations and provides for doing extras between the do and the done. Specifically: find /path/to/files/ -mtime -2 -print | \ while read x; do grep expression $x; done same as -exec works but forks a process for each single file - slow -exec and + or xargs do the job ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Greylisting and new posters
Mel Flynn wrote: All (including David with his kick-ass postmaster hat), while off-topic, flames and other non sense covered by Freedom of Speech are an annoyance to many, I'm more bothered by some newcomers to the list that are being greylisted on first post and instantly hit the resend button. Especially since a technical solution is possible in 90% of the cases (there are a few people that don't resend, but re-edit). Is it possible to: a) Put a big-red-blink-popup-attentiongrabbing monster text into the subscription page about first posts being delayed with a link to greylisting? b) Hash the bodies of greylisted messages and reject / discard if the same body with a different msg id is being received? I'd be happy to contribute to b) if it is thought that the incoming mailer can handle the hashing and storage of this information. Seems to me that the particular problem you're referring to doesn't really happen all that often. Probably, the only thing that really might need another word or two is to make the services offered by FreeBSD-test list better advertised (it does still exist, right?) People can post all the test mail they want to that list. About 6 months ago, I recommended to an acquaintance that they make use of the FreeBSD-test list, and I actually saw the replies he got from some idiots subscribed to that list, complaining that my acquaintance used that list exactly like he was supposed to do. I wonder if maybe the list ought to have some feature like having it's subscribers list zeroed out once a week. It's then a pretty obvious problem which really could be dealt with in the new subscribers intro mail. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Deinstall software
Hi! I installed my software using csup and make install. Now there are new versions available. How can i deinstall the old software with depencies or upgrade the complete stuff? I want to use make for that and it should ignore if an old version is already installed or deinstall the old version automiticaly. Cheers Markus ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Deinstall software
Hi! I installed my software using csup and make install. Now there are new you mean FreeBSD or some add on software? as assume latter. you should use ports for installing software. if there are no port for it, you should write it and contribute ;) but if you already did this way, then you have 2 choices 1) there are often make deinstall in such sources working, it will work if target directory will be the same as before 2) find out manually what files it put where and delete. If you need to install software this was, try to set target directory base not in /usr, to not make mess with base system, and not /usr/local - to not mess with ports. creating /usr/local2 is a good choice ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Deinstall software
On Sat, 30 May 2009 20:54:10 +0200, Markus Künkler mar...@amobos.org wrote: Hi! I installed my software using csup and make install. Now there are new versions available. How can i deinstall the old software with depencies or upgrade the complete stuff? I want to use make for that and it should ignore if an old version is already installed or deinstall the old version automiticaly. If you're talking about the OS itself, you can simply follow the instractions in the handbook, where it explains the upgrading of the system (including steps like make update, make buildworld and buildkernel, mergemaster, and make installkernel and installworld, maybe KERNCONF). For the ports, you enter the port's directory, run # make deinstall and then # make # make install # make clean (you can of course combine it to make install clean). If you want to automate it, you can use tools from the portmgmt/ category, such as portupgrade or portmaster. --- I think that is what you're searching for. But you're talking about software that is not supported through the FreeBSD ports system, you need to rely on what the source creator gave to you (install / update / deinstall scripts). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Deinstall software
On Sat, 30 May 2009 21:20:13 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: If you need to install software this was, try to set target directory base not in /usr, to not make mess with base system, and not /usr/local - to not mess with ports. creating /usr/local2 is a good choice You can even keep it out of /usr employing the /opt Linuxism. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Multiple program launches in Midnight Commander
Since I moved to FreeBSD 7, I noticed that if I press Enter on a file name in the Midnight Commander (which associates the start of the proper program with the file name as parameter, controlled by mc.ext file) that the program is sometimes started 2 or three times. This is especially annoying for video files that then run multiple instances of mplayer, or image files that then run multiple instances of xzgv -tz. Any idea where this comes from? Never had this before... Maybe it has something to do with the subshell support new to the Midnight Commander, which often results in read (subshell_pty...): No such file or directory (2) after crashing the MC and not running it anymore. Or maybe it is due to to sticky keys on the USB stack? The keyboard is (still) a Sun USB Type 6 keyboard which didn't have any problems before. Additionally, it's not my fingers, I'm a typist - learned on a real typewriter. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Deinstall software
creating /usr/local2 is a good choice You can even keep it out of /usr employing the /opt Linuxism. :-) no matter what's the name, but it's good to have /usr/local for ports-based installed things /some/other/directory for hand-installed things so both base system and ports are clearly separated ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Multiple program launches in Midnight Commander
2 or three times. This is especially annoying for video files that then run multiple instances of mplayer, or image files that then run multiple instances of xzgv -tz. i never had this in any version of FreeBSD including 7.1 i use now but i use mc-lite port ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Mysql6 or Mysql5
Hi all, I am asking thise here as I am aware there are many ISPs and Hosting farm admins on this list. I am in the process of setting up the next gen servers, and notice the Mysql6 is available in ports. Does anyone have any expierience with it? Is it solid? Fast? Are there any 'gotchas' when using databases developed on older versions of Mysql? (4). Thanks, -Grant ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Deinstall software
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 09:35:35PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: You can even keep it out of /usr employing the /opt Linuxism. :-) /opt is actually a Solarism... ;-) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Deinstall software
On Sat, 30 May 2009 23:50:42 +0200, cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: /opt is actually a Solarism... ;-) That's true, but nobody knows, because Solaris doesn't exist. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Deinstall software
Polytropon, On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: You can even keep it out of /usr employing the /opt Linuxism. :-) For (my own) clarity sake, won't that take up space in '/'? (Not arguing, just never thought of using /opt on FreeBSD...) -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rsync approach
On Wed, 27 May 2009 15:03:30 -0700, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com said: P We are thinking of rsync to duplicate 1st [box] 2nd [box] (with the P exception of rc.conf and a few other files of course because we don't P want them to be absolutely identical). P we plan to allow root login and have disabled all password access so P that rsync can preserve permissions. is this a good way to accomplish P the bkp job? If you're going to use root login, I'd suggest access control for ssh via either daemontools or tcpwrappers, and add some extra security by putting 'from=hostname' in root's entry in the authorized_keys2 file: from=1st.box.com ssh-dss B3NzaC1MtH[...]WDXDrq03pE= r...@1st.box.com It's not strictly necessary to allow root connections if you want to keep permissions intact. I use an unprivileged account (bkup) to copy gzipped cpio archives between systems. On the 1st box, root can use pax or cpio to create the archive, and then run something as user bkup to do the copy to the 2nd box: root# cd /some/where root# find . -print | pax -x cpio -wd | gzip -1c /tmp/arch.pax.gz root# su bkup -c scp -c arcfour -i /bkup/.ssh/backuphost_dsa \ /tmp/arch.pax.gz 2nd.box.com:/someplace/bkup/can/write The arcfour cipher will probably give you better throughput. To unpack the files on 2nd.box.com: root# cd /some/where/else root# gunzip -c /someplace/bkup/can/write/arch.pax.gz | pax -rd -pe root# rm /someplace/bkup/can/write/arch.pax.gz If the files you're syncing are huge, you're better off using root login plus rsync. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company SUVs are gross because they're the solution to a gross problem: how to make minivans look more masculine. --Paul Graham ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find and searching for specific expression in files
On Sat, 30 May 2009 11:25:12 +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot z.szal...@lcwords.com said: Z Can you please give me a hint how to use find to search for a specific Z text within files? People have mentioned using xargs in combination with find, but if you're dealing with Windows files on a server, be prepared for every kind of crap character in the filename you can imagine. Use nulls to delimit the filenames, i.e.: find . -mtime +7 -print0 | xargs -0 grep -i foo The GNU versions of find and xargs support the 0 options as well. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company iPod changed my life. Earbuds made me look so cool! Now I am stone deaf. --geek haiku ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-05-30
The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists and/or The FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/. RECENT ARTICLES: 2-Dec : Obscuring smtp auth headers If you consider your smtp-auth location to be private, this is what you want. http://freebsddiary.org/smtp-headers-rewrite-auth.php?2 29-Nov : OpenVPN - creating a routed VPN If you have multiple VPN clients, this is a practical solution. http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn-routed.php?2 27-Nov : Creating your own Certificate Authority How to create a CA and generate your own SSL certificates http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn-easy-rsa.php?2 27-Nov : OpenVPN - getting it running Using OpenVPN to create a secure pathway between home and office http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn.php?2 5-Oct : Removing dead mailing lists from Mailman Mailing lists can outlive their usefulness http://freebsddiary.org/mailman-removing-dead-lists.php?2 30-Aug : gmirror - recovering from a failed HDD an HDD failed. gmirror to the rescue. http://freebsddiary.org/gmirror-failure.php?2 6-Jul : ezjail - A jail administration framework This makes jails easier http://freebsddiary.org/ezjail.php?2 24-Jun : Adding gmirror to an existing installation Adding RAID-1 to an existing FreeBSD 7 installation http://freebsddiary.org/gmirror.php?2 20-Mar : ThinkPad x61s Unpacking the box, installing PC-BSD http://freebsddiary.org/thinkpad-x61s.php?2 17-Mar : Using two monitors with X.org The GeForce 8600 GT with two monitors http://freebsddiary.org/xorg-two-screens.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Deinstall software
On Sat, 30 May 2009 18:55:15 -0400, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: For (my own) clarity sake, won't that take up space in '/'? (Not arguing, just never thought of using /opt on FreeBSD...) This depends on your file system layout, Glen. If you put everything into one partition, i. e. /, then everything is going into /. If you have separate partitions, e. g. /, /tmp, /var, /usr and /home, then /opt would take space on /. On most installations that use this approach, / is as big as needed for what it is used: the basic SUM stuff and mountpoints, nothing more. Of couse, it's possible to extend the approach mentioned to have another partition for /opt. In order to not to deal with this problem, one could even make a symlink /opt@ - /usr/local2. To summarize: You are correct. :-) By the way, I've not seen anyone using /opt on FreeBSD yet, I just wanted to mention that it is possible. (There are other Solarisisms that I've already seen, such as /export on FreeBSD which is usually used on Solaris for NFS shares.) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Deinstall software
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2009 18:55:15 -0400, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: For (my own) clarity sake, won't that take up space in '/'? (Not arguing, just never thought of using /opt on FreeBSD...) This depends on your file system layout, Glen. If you put everything into one partition, i. e. /, then everything is going into /. Ah, yes. I forgot people do that -- hence my question. :) -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD on USB drive for a MacBook Pro
I'm looking for advice and/or pointers. I have an Intel-based MacBook Pro and I would like to use a USB thumb drive to be able to boot FreeBSD on it. Some questions: 1) Is this even possible? I've read that you _can_ boot Mac OS X from a USB hard drive on a new MacBook but I'm not sure if the same goes for non-Mac OSen or thumb drives. 2) What steps should I take to partition the thing? What boot code should I use and where should it live? I'm planning to do a manual installation in any event. 3) If I manage to get 1 and 2 sorted out, will I be able to boot the same thumb drive on a regular PC? Will any additional steps be necessary? 4) Just to be contrary, I'd also like to use GELI (if possible) for everything but /boot. Does needing an extra /boot partition change anything? I'll be doing some experimenting, but if some things are already known (not) to work I'd like to start with as much info as possible. Thanks, JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Myths about Power Over Ethernet
Myths about Power Over Ethernet May 28, 2009 Power-over-Ethernet (PoE) technology integrates power and data across standard Cat5/5e/6 network cabling and provides more flexibility in today’s workplace. PoE enables power to be supplied to network devices, such as IP phones, network cameras, and wireless access points through a single, most often existing, network cable. When combined with an uninterruptable power supply (UPS) a PoE network delivers continuous operation and minimizes business downtime by eliminating most power interruptions. With the ability to install endpoints in any location PoE technology provides a scalable and flexible networking infrastructure geared for growth and efficiency. PoE Switches can provide all the power I need or will need. Today most switches are merely PoE-enabled. This means the majority rely on power management to share available power across the switch ports. The switches are designed with a smaller power supply that is typically capable of powering the switch itself and providing the required 15.4 watts of power over a limited number of ports. For example: A 24-port PoE Switch with power management typically has a 195-watt power supply. After the 40 watts needed to power the switch, you have approximately 155 watts remaining. If 12 of the 24 ports are used to connect end devices using 11.5 watts each, you would only have 17 watts remaining to provide power on the last 12 ports. The math doesn’t match the ports: 195W – 40W (switch) – 138 (12 devices @ 11.5W/ea) = 17W left for power on 12 ports Myth Busted: A PoE Switch is often not the best and most cost effective solution. A midspan and a PoE switch are the same. A PoE Midspan is not a switch. A Midspan is an additional PoE power source that can be used to offer full power to all endpoint devices. PoE Midspans (Power Hub or Power Injector) pass data from a switch and ‘inject’ safe power acting as a patch panel of sorts. Midspans are commonly used with either a non-PoE switch, an existing PoE switch, or a new PoE switch in a network. In addition to offering full power across all available ports, midspans costs substantially less per port and overall than a new PoE enabled switch. Myth Busted: Midspans do not switch – they make use of existing best-in-class switches. They inject safe power across all ports and cost less than PoE switches. . Only a switch that has PoE built in should be used to power devices like IP Phones, Access Points, and IP Security Cameras. Switches were designed to, well, switch. PoE Switches are designed with power management and have to distribute different power as required to ports but there is often not enough power for all devices plus the power required to complete the primary task - switching. Networks that have multiple devices like IP phones, IP cameras, wireless access points quickly go beyond the limited capacity of managed power PoE switches. As more PoE devices continue to grow in capabilities and market share this managed power limitation will become more and more evident. Midspans, in contrast to switches, were designed to provide full power on every port and deliver safe and reliable power based on the industry standards (IEEE802.3af/at). Myth Busted: Rather than relying on power management in a switch use a midspan that can deliver full power (15.4W) to every port for all PoE-enabled devices now and in the future. Ethernet devices not PoE-enabled (non 802.3af/at compliant) cannot be powered using PoE technology. Many devices do not directly accept Power-over-Ethernet but can still use PoE technology. If the device uses less than 12.5 watts (802.3af) or less than 50 watts (802.3at+) and connects to an IP Ethernet network you can use a PoE splitter. PoE splitters enable you to accept PoE power from any IEEE 802.3af/at compliant switch or midspan then separates the data and power on to two seprate cables. The data is connected to the end device through a standard RJ45 plug while the power is connected using a standard 5.5 x 2.1 x 12mm Adapter Plug. Splitters can also convert the input voltage to the required voltage for a non-PoE device. Splitters are traditionally used with older network products which only accept power through their (DC) jack and data through their RJ-45 jack. Myth Busted: PoE splitters can be used in conjunction with PoE midspans and switches to provide both the data connectivity and power required by most endpoint devices. I need/will need additional PoE switch ports to power my IP cameras and high-power pan, tilt, and zoom (PTZ) cameras. Today, many devices have evolved into more advanced solutions with higher power requirements. The traditional approach was to endure a “forklift upgrade”. This meant buying new PoE switches at considerable cost and physically swapping out the existing switches to meet higher power requirements or add more powered ports.
about using ppp over ethernet
I use freebsd7.1 I have a adsl modem. I am going to use freebsd as a router and firewall. I wish to use over pppoe. I set the adsl modem as a bridge mode. I configured ppp.conf on freebsd. When I try to connect to internet using ADSL, But I get an error as below; Freebsd can't ping at any outside ip. Therefore I am not able to reach to internet in this way. What am I doing wrong? Any advice ? Thanks May 21 17:35:54 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish May 21 17:35:54 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed - opening May 21 17:35:54 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! May 21 17:35:54 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening - dial May 21 17:35:54 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: dial - carrier May 21 17:35:55 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: Received NGM_PPPOE_ACNAME (hook SE-ATAKOY-NEC-1) May 21 17:35:55 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: Received NGM_PPPOE_SESSIONID May 21 17:35:55 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: Received NGM_PPPOE_SUCCESS May 21 17:35:55 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: carrier - login May 21 17:35:55 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: login - lcp May 21 17:35:56 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Authenticate May 21 17:35:56 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his = PAP, mine = none May 21 17:35:56 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: x...@ttnet May 21 17:35:57 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: Pap Input: SUCCESS () May 21 17:35:57 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp - open May 21 17:35:57 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Network May 21 17:35:57 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Warning: 0.0.0.0/0: Change route failed: errno: No such process May 21 17:35:57 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Warning: ff02:7::/32: Change route failed: errno: Network is unreachable cat /etc/rc.conf gw110# ifconfig xl0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU ether 00:60:97:b8:77:eb media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active stge0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=209bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC ether 00:22:15:10:73:04 inet 10.11.1.221 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.11.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active plip0: flags=108810POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT metric 0 mtu 1500 pflog0: flags=0 metric 0 mtu 33204 lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 pfsync0: flags=0 metric 0 mtu 1460 syncpeer: 224.0.0.240 maxupd: 128 tun0: flags=8051UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1492 inet 88.238.76.207 -- 88.238.64.1 netmask 0x Opened by PID 1215 tun1: flags=8010POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 gw110# ping 88.238.76.207 PING 88.238.76.207 (88.238.76.207): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 88.238.76.207: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.831 ms 64 bytes from 88.238.76.207: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.222 ms 64 bytes from 88.238.76.207: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.206 ms Bu elektronik posta ve varsa ekleri tamamen gizli ve gönderilen kişiler listesine özeldir. Eğer adınız gönderilen kişiler listesinde yer almıyorsa, lütfen derhal gönderen kişiyi bilgilendiriniz ve içeriğini herhangi başka bir kişiye iletmeyiniz, herhangi bir amaç için kullanmayınız, sayısal ve basılı ortamlar dahil olmak üzere saklamayınız ve kopyalamayınız. This e-mail and attachments, if any, may contain confidential and/or proprietary information. Please be advised that the unauthorized use or disclosure of the information is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message and attachments. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Even 15 seconds of thinking is enough to understand that logging to other user and then su - gives completely no extra security. I don't buy this, given that root's login name is well known :) if someone can intercept the passwords you type, then he/she will intercept both user password you log in and then su password you type. He/she actually can gain more if you use su, as you may use the same user password somewhere else. The whole point of ssh is to prevent this sort of thing, by encrypting the message traffic over this insecure communication channel. An attacker may be able to intercept the encrypted traffic, but it will take a skilled cryptanalyst and a lot of CPU time -- or the attacker will have to be very lucky -- to decrypt the message and recover the passwords while they are still valid. (You *do* change passwords periodically, don't you?) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Audio boost OSS/Mplayer
I want to boost the audio playback of my multimedia. I use mplayer with oss for audio playback. I don't want to re-encode my media. uname -a:'7.1-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD' -- ~ ##The United States of America is a Slave Nation## ##The Human race is a Slave race## !!InfoWars.com!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE] Audio going silent after wakeup.
After setting up an Audigy2ZS with the emu10kx kernel driver, I found that after the machine goes into a suspend mode and wakes up, the sound stops playing. Unloading and reloading the kernel drivers (sound.ko and snd_emu10kx.ko) doesn't appear to do anything. I tested with an external line device and mplayer. A reboot clears up the symptoms. Has anyone else noticed this before? Is there a way to get the problem to sit up and bark without doing a complete reboot? --Joseph Lenox ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org