Re: gmirror / crash dumps
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Philip M. Gollucci pgollu...@p6m7g8.comwrote: Hi, Say I've got the following: /dev/mirror/gm0s1bnoneswapsw /dev/mirror/gm0s1a989M390M520M43%/ /dev/mirror/gm0s1g 15G1.7G 12G13%/usr /dev/mirror/gm0s1h544G1.8M501G 0%/usr/home /dev/mirror/gm0s1d1.9G500M1.3G27%/usr/src /dev/mirror/gm0s1e1.9G1.1G733M60%/usr/obj /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 97G2.0K 89G 0%/var Well I'm trying to get my kernel panics to cause dumps 1) /etc/rc.conf dumpdev=AUTO crashinfo_enable=YES 2) sudo chmod 700 /var/crash 3) 8GB RAM, 16GB of swap, /var/crash is 16GB 97GB 4) I have the following in my 7-stable kernel makeoptions DEBUG=-g options AUDIT options KTRACE options KDB options KDB_TRACE options DDB options GDB options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER options INVARIANTS options INVARIANT_SUPPORT options WITNESS options DEBUG_LOCKS options DEBUG_VFS_LOCKS options LOCK_PROFILING options DIAGNOSTIC The long and the short of it is I don't get any dumps. I read somewhere that you can't dump onto a gmirror device. That is incorrect, but I don't know the cause of your problem. I run nothing but gmirror and dumps happen here. So I've moved /var off of /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 97G2.0K 89G 0%/var and I can now do what I want with this. How do I go about re-jiggering this (2-disk gmirror) so I can use 1 slice from one of them as my dumpon(8) device? TIA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Looking for fast graphical web browser
Can anyone suggest a fast graphical web browser? I use Firefox (because every page displays well and I can sync bookmarks), and I also use elinks (when graphics don't matter). I'm looking for some middle ground, a browser that can display most sites well but is faster (or more lightweight) than Firefox. (Note: I tried dillo, but it doesn't display most sites well enough.) TIA, Daniel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:32:49 -0400 Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone suggest a fast graphical web browser? Opera. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565|http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 pgptocbRDDx3X.pgp Description: PGP signature
Recovering Trashed Filesystems
I have two file systems in very sad shape that I would like to retrieve some files from. I've net booted the sick box and can access the two bad UFSs. One file system, the root file system, isn't too bad off. However, the usr directory is messed up. I can do, # ls .cshrc bootlib proctmp .profiledev libexec rescue usr .snap entropy lost+found rootvar COPYRIGHT etc media sbin bin homemnt sys But if I try look at the files (directories), # ls -l ls: lib: Bad file descriptor ls: usr: Bad file descriptor ls: var: Bad file descriptor total 52 -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 787 Jun 25 2008 .cshrc -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 253 Jun 20 2008 .profile drwxrwxr-x 2 root operator 512 Jun 27 2008 .snap -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6188 Jun 20 2008 COPYRIGHT drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1024 Jun 20 2008 bin drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Jun 28 2008 boot dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 28 2008 dev -rw--- 1 root wheel 4096 Nov 26 2008 entropy drwxr-xr-x 20 root wheel 2560 Jun 19 22:35 etc drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 25 2008 home drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 20 2008 libexec drwx-- 2 root wheel 2048 May 23 07:47 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 20 2008 media drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 20 2008 mnt dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 20 2008 proc drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2560 Jun 20 2008 rescue drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Jul 27 21:26 root drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2560 Jun 20 2008 sbin lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11 Jun 20 2008 sys - usr/src/sys drwx-- 2 root wheel 512 Jun 26 2008 tmp We see usr is messed up. And what I'd like to recover are files up in usr/local/etc. Now I can mount -r /dev/ad0s1a /mnt to get the above results, but fsck /dev/ad0s1a returns, # fsck /dev/ad0s1a ** /dev/ad0s1a BAD SUPER BLOCK: VALUES IN SUPER BLOCK DISAGREE WITH THOSE IN FIRST ALTERNATE LOOK FOR ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCKS? [yn] y 32 is not a file system superblock SEARCH FOR ALTERNATE SUPER-BLOCK FAILED. YOU MUST USE THE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY THE LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8). Some help on recovering the files? I don't need the whole disk intact. As I said, I just want to track down some local stuff in usr/local/etc. As for the second file system, the var file system, it is more messed up. Looks like big chucks are zeroed out. But again, there are a few files I would like to recover. I have managed to recover one important one by running, # dd if=/dev/ad0s1f | hexdump -C | more And manually finding the file and then using, # dd if=/dev/ad0s1f skip=m count=n /tmp/recovered.txt Then manually editing. But that is too labor intensive to try to grab everything. Again, when I fsck(1) I get the same message as above. Anyone have tools for recovering files from these broken file systems? -- Crist J. Clark | cjcl...@alum.mit.edu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
freebsd-update question.
Embarrassingly simple actually. I configured a new server from a 7.0 CD I made a while back, brought the system to 7.1 the regular way and ran freebsd-update. The embarrassing part is I took little note of the fetch output other than 24 files were updated. Can I find out which 24? As always, thanks for any help Doug _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com d...@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to boot or access problem file system
On Thursday 30 July 2009 23:14:39 PJ wrote: But isn't it strange that it used to be pretty simple to upgrade and update. But recently, I notice that communication between the developers and users (or is it the manual page writers) are getting far away from the realities of user/operational needs. Oh, what's the sense of beating a dead horse, mechanics will never be writers... let's not kid ourselves. I may be misunderstanding what you've been saying over the last couple of days (I can understand your frustration, but your questions would be much clearer if you didn't let it spill over into chippy remarks about FreeBSD like the above). Let me summarise what I think you've said, and what I think it means, and please, correct me if I'm wrong. You run a custom kernel, and you decided for your latest system upgrade that you would use freebsd-update, which as far as I know doesn't work with custom kernels. You discovered this and tried to move your custom kernel aside and put a GENERIC kernel in place for the upgrade, rebooted in the middle of the process, and now when you try and boot up, your system can't find a kernel - which is why the bootloader is asking you to tell it where to look. If that's the case, your data should all still be there in the original slices/partitions (others have told you how to check that). You are likely to struggle to get the system booted unless you can work out where to direct the bootloader to find a kernel, but you may well be able to inspect the data on the disk if you boot a LiveCD (which is a version of FreeBSD that runs from the CD - there's one in the release set). Given the problems you've encountered so far, and the level of effort and learning that's acceptable to you in your situation to try and resolve it, I would suggest you go and buy a new hard drive (they're not expensive these days compared with the cost of your time), and fit it alongside your messed-up drive in your computer. You can then do a fresh install on the new drive, get everything set up the way you want, and then retrieve the data from the old hard drive (various ways to do this: mounting the drive and simply copying files, dump and restore of complete filesystems, etc). You've also thrown in a new problem, which is that X doesn't recognise your mouse. Unfortunately, that doesn't have much to do with FreeBSD. It's a result of a decision by the X developers to require a hardware abstraction layer - you probably need to enable hal and dbus. Googling will put you on the right track. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gmirror / crash dumps
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:46:32AM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Philip M. Gollucci pgollu...@p6m7g8.comwrote: Hi, Say I've got the following: /dev/mirror/gm0s1bnoneswapsw /dev/mirror/gm0s1a989M390M520M43%/ /dev/mirror/gm0s1g 15G1.7G 12G13%/usr /dev/mirror/gm0s1h544G1.8M501G 0%/usr/home /dev/mirror/gm0s1d1.9G500M1.3G27%/usr/src /dev/mirror/gm0s1e1.9G1.1G733M60%/usr/obj /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 97G2.0K 89G 0%/var Well I'm trying to get my kernel panics to cause dumps 1) /etc/rc.conf dumpdev=AUTO crashinfo_enable=YES 2) sudo chmod 700 /var/crash 3) 8GB RAM, 16GB of swap, /var/crash is 16GB 97GB 4) I have the following in my 7-stable kernel makeoptions DEBUG=-g options AUDIT options KTRACE options KDB options KDB_TRACE options DDB options GDB options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER options INVARIANTS options INVARIANT_SUPPORT options WITNESS options DEBUG_LOCKS options DEBUG_VFS_LOCKS options LOCK_PROFILING options DIAGNOSTIC The long and the short of it is I don't get any dumps. I read somewhere that you can't dump onto a gmirror device. That is incorrect, but I don't know the cause of your problem. I run nothing but gmirror and dumps happen here. I was also told that you won't get a valid dump if your dumpdev is on a GEOM_MIRROR device http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ia64/2009-July/002205.html -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Where have all the vnodes gone?
With the last few releases, I've noticed a distinct trend toward disappearing vnodes on one of the machines I look after. This machine isn't doing a whole lot. It runs a couple of small web sites, and once an hour it rsync's some files from one NFS mount to another, but the rsync doesn't stay running; it restarts every hour and runs for 10-15 minutes. I set it to log the number of vnodes every ten minutes and this is what I got: 00:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 39337 00:57:59 vfs.numvnodes: 40568 01:07:59 vfs.numvnodes: 44554 01:17:59 vfs.numvnodes: 52141 01:27:59 vfs.numvnodes: 55713 01:37:59 vfs.numvnodes: 58643 01:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 60792 01:57:59 vfs.numvnodes: 67130 02:07:59 vfs.numvnodes: 76035 02:17:59 vfs.numvnodes: 84349 02:27:59 vfs.numvnodes: 92187 02:37:59 vfs.numvnodes: 98114 02:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 116854 02:57:59 vfs.numvnodes: 124842 03:07:59 vfs.numvnodes: 164173 03:17:59 vfs.numvnodes: 172257 03:27:59 vfs.numvnodes: 178388 03:37:59 vfs.numvnodes: 183066 03:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 190092 03:57:59 vfs.numvnodes: 198322 04:07:59 vfs.numvnodes: 204598 04:17:59 vfs.numvnodes: 208311 04:27:59 vfs.numvnodes: 214207 04:37:59 vfs.numvnodes: 221028 04:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 227792 04:57:59 vfs.numvnodes: 233214 05:07:59 vfs.numvnodes: 240112 05:17:59 vfs.numvnodes: 247572 05:27:59 vfs.numvnodes: 256090 05:37:59 vfs.numvnodes: 262720 05:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 269755 05:57:59 vfs.numvnodes: 274986 06:07:59 vfs.numvnodes: 279879 06:17:59 vfs.numvnodes: 287039 06:27:59 vfs.numvnodes: 291984 06:37:59 vfs.numvnodes: 294267 06:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 296658 06:57:59 vfs.numvnodes: 299086 07:07:59 vfs.numvnodes: 301825 07:17:59 vfs.numvnodes: 309060 07:27:59 vfs.numvnodes: 312955 07:37:59 vfs.numvnodes: 317400 07:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 320047 At that point the machine crashed with: panic: kmem_malloc(16384): kmem_map too small: 334745600 total allocated If I don't tune kern.maxvnodes up to the point where it panics, then eventually it runs out of vnodes and all sorts of stuff gets stuck in vlruwk. The machine in question is running 7.2-RELEASE-p3, but I already upgraded it from 7.1 trying to get this to go away, so it's a problem that's been around for awhile. My guess is that they're leaking in the kernel somewhere because of the rsync, because there's just not much else going on, but unless I can figure out how many vnodes are being used on a per-process basis, I can't make any headway on proving or disproving that. I do know that according to fstat, there are only 1000-1500 descriptors open at any given time, and kern.openfiles ranges 250-500. So I'm just mystified what the other 30+ could be. Is there any way to figure out where all these vnodes are going? TIA for any advice! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:55:53 +0200, Andreas Rudisch cyb.@gmx.net wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:32:49 -0400 Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone suggest a fast graphical web browser? Opera. Traditionally, I would have suggested Opera too, because it has been my favourite browser for many years now. But with recent versions, I saw it getting... hmmm... how do I tell best? It's getting more slower in overall handling, and it often stops working completely (several seconds); printing isn't as good as in Firefox, and it won't work on some sites that are no problem with Firefox. Furthermore, there's lots of stuff now bundled with the Opera web browser that I (personally) found no use for, such as a mail client, IRC client, torrent client, and some other stuff that could easily be called bloatware. (Don't get me wrong: The M2 mail client isn't that bad, but far from lightweight, as the whole Opera is today.) But maybe that's only my problem (due to my ancient computer and OS). Try Opera. Maybe it works for you. And: No, I'm no Firefox advocate. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Recovering Trashed Filesystems
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:46:50 -0700, Crist J. Clark cristcl...@comcast.net wrote: But if I try look at the files (directories), # ls -l ls: lib: Bad file descriptor ls: usr: Bad file descriptor ls: var: Bad file descriptor Same here - allthough on a much more important place - my former home directory. We see usr is messed up. And what I'd like to recover are files up in usr/local/etc. Now I can mount -r /dev/ad0s1a /mnt to get the above results, but fsck /dev/ad0s1a returns, # fsck /dev/ad0s1a ** /dev/ad0s1a BAD SUPER BLOCK: VALUES IN SUPER BLOCK DISAGREE WITH THOSE IN FIRST ALTERNATE LOOK FOR ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCKS? [yn] y 32 is not a file system superblock SEARCH FOR ALTERNATE SUPER-BLOCK FAILED. YOU MUST USE THE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY THE LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8). You could try do locate superblocks using this command: Some help on recovering the files? Yes, use your backup. :-) Don't mind, I (still) am in a similar situation, so I won't poke any more fun at you. Before you do anything else: Make a 1:1 copy using dd of your file systems. Boot from a live CD and have access to another hard disk. Then do: # dd if=/dev/ad0s1a of=/rescuedisk/ad0s1a.dd bs=1m # dd if=/dev/ad0s1d of=/rescuedisk/ad0s1d.dd bs=1m # dd if=/dev/ad0s1e of=/rescuedisk/ad0s1e.dd bs=1m # dd if=/dev/ad0s1f of=/rescuedisk/ad0s1f.dd bs=1m # dd if=/dev/ad0s1g of=/rescuedisk/ad0s1g.dd bs=1m This is to make sure that any further fsck run won't mess up the file system. Use the dd images for retrieval. Change the device names to the correct names. Maybe when you're running fsck -yf on a device, it can do more damage... Install the port ffs2recov and use its -s and -p options. Refer to the excellent manpage. I don't need the whole disk intact. As I said, I just want to track down some local stuff in usr/local/etc. There is always the option of doing a low-level recovery. Install The Sleuth Kit from ports and try. In most cases, you will lose the file names, but with a quick search, you could easily identify the files from /usr/local/etc that you want to have back. But that would be my last choice. As for the second file system, the var file system, it is more messed up. Looks like big chucks are zeroed out. But again, there are a few files I would like to recover. I have managed to recover one important one by running, # dd if=/dev/ad0s1f | hexdump -C | more And manually finding the file and then using, # dd if=/dev/ad0s1f skip=m count=n /tmp/recovered.txt Then manually editing. But that is too labor intensive to try to grab everything. You should really try ffs2recov, allthough your manual approach is already a good means. Again, when I fsck(1) I get the same message as above. Anyone have tools for recovering files from these broken file systems? Here's a short list I made up, maybe something gives you another point where to start: System: dd fsck_ffs clri fsdb (!!!) fetch -rR device recoverdisk (!) Ports: ddrescue dd_rescue ffs2recov magicrescue testdisk The Sleuth Kit: fls dls ils autopsy scan_ffs recoverjpeg foremost photorec Finally, may I ask if you have any ideas about what caused this problem? Good luck! -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 7.2 RELEASE ? Buggy as hell
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:19:14 -0800, Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: That is very weird, since most of the community regards the 5.x series as the worst in FreeBSD's history. Until it completely destroyed itself, I had a 5.4-p? running at my home machine without any problems. Please let me emphasize this statement: WITHOUT. ANY. PROBLEMS. I have more trouble with 7-STABLE... I still have a 300 MHz P2 with FreeBSD 5.4-p12 that runs faster than my 2 GHz P4 with 7-STABLE which wonÄ't run mplayer correctly, games don't work, and much more. I feel that I have spent more time getting 7 to run halfway as good as 5 was. I've personally seen significant improvements in both reliability and performance since 5.x, with respect to kernel and base. System performance has gotten much better. I've experienced FreeBSD 6 only for server use, and tested it with PC-BSD on the desktop, so I don't have a usable opinion there. As far as I'm concerned, 7.2 is the best release so far. I'll make a copy of this statement and check if it's still true after I performed the update. :-) I do share the Xorg frustration, primarily because there is no alternative and has degraded into a linux X11 server, with some considerations for other operating systems, without any form of release engineering or regression testing. Allthough you can still get rid of some builtin problems, either by changing your configuration files or recompiling X with some compile time options, there's still the (important) first impression that some developers artificially made things harder to get X running, with no understandable reason. After some reading, I found out that HAL and DBUS, for example, are important and useful for getting Gnome's auto mounting facilities working, and that's good. But if you don't run Gnome and don't want any automounting stuff (maybe intendedly due to security reasons), you still sit there with this stuff required. While XFree86 was harder to configure, it's stability was far less of an issue. Depends on your hardware. XFree86 always configured fast, fine and correct on my systems. And it could run with 1400x1050 which X.org can't do anymore, surprisingly. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Recovering Trashed Filesystems
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:46:50PM -0700, Crist J. Clark wrote: I have two file systems in very sad shape that I would like to retrieve some files from. I've net booted the sick box and can access the two bad UFSs. One file system, the root file system, isn't too bad off. However, the usr directory is messed up. snip Now I can mount -r /dev/ad0s1a /mnt to get the above results, but fsck /dev/ad0s1a returns, # fsck /dev/ad0s1a ** /dev/ad0s1a BAD SUPER BLOCK: VALUES IN SUPER BLOCK DISAGREE WITH THOSE IN FIRST ALTERNATE LOOK FOR ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCKS? [yn] y 32 is not a file system superblock SEARCH FOR ALTERNATE SUPER-BLOCK FAILED. YOU MUST USE THE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY THE LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8). Try 'fsck_ffs -b 160 /dev/ad0s1a' assuming you're using a UFS2 filesystem. If that doesn't work, try adding the '-D' flag, but heed the warning in fsck_ffs(8). Only run fsck_ffs when the filesystem is not mounted! If you can, make a copy of the damaged fs and save it to another disk or another machine. Then try to repair the copy. If it fails, you haven't lost your original data. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpodPbEc2Xdo.pgp Description: PGP signature
gmirror on different disks
Hello everybody! I'm just wondering, I had gmirror with two disks: Master: ad0 ST3160815AS/4.AAB Serial ATA II Master: ad2 ST3160815AS/4.AAB Serial ATA II unfortunately ad0 failed today, leaving me with degraded array and ad0 offline. I did # gmirror forget gm0, then shutdown, ad0 was replaced with: ad0: 152626MB Seagate ST3160815AS 3.AAD at ata0-master SATA300 with different firmware I think. Then gmirror insert gm0 /dev/ad0 (...) Jul 31 09:55:46 julia kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: rebuilding provider ad0 finished. Jul 31 09:55:46 julia kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad0 activated. But the disk is a little bit smaller: 1. Name: mirror/gm0 Mediasize: 160040803328 (149G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r5w5e6 Consumers: 1. Name: ad2 Mediasize: 160041885696 (149G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY GenID: 1 SyncID: 1 ID: 3791030614 2. Name: ad0 Mediasize: 160040803840 (149G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY GenID: 1 SyncID: 1 ID: 2477089776 # gmirror status NameStatus Components mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ad2 ad0 so, it looks fine. Can I expect any problems now because of different sizes? Any problems when RAID will be almost full? I mean - should I make the RAID once again with exactly the same drives, or can I leave it as it is right now? Thanks in advance! -- Grzegorz Danecki ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser
Give Midori a try. Of course it's a young project and maybe there are not all of the features of Firefox or Opera, but Midori is lightweight and really fast. It's based on WebKit, so there should be no problem with standard conform websites. Wolfgang ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Difficulty in installing ncurses.
7.2-RELEASE #0. Generic kernel. Full installation from DVD. I'm trying to install ncurses because I want to run FoxPro Unix, which expects a terminfo database. I did this: # cd /usr/src/contrib/ncurses [Enter] # ./configure [Enter] The last line of output is config.status: error: cannot find input file: test/Makefile.in I contacted the authors and I got a reply stating: It looks as if the source-tree is incomplete and an alternative approach to installation. How should I proceed? Thanks in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Difficulty in installing ncurses.
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:20:27AM +, michael green wrote: 7.2-RELEASE #0. Generic kernel. Full installation from DVD. I'm trying to install ncurses because I want to run FoxPro Unix, which expects a terminfo database. You don't have to install it. It is already installed because it is part of the base system. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpm8LESQNCp8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gmirror on different disks
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:24 AM, Grzegorz Danecki g.dane...@gmail.comwrote: Hello everybody! I'm just wondering, I had gmirror with two disks: Master: ad0 ST3160815AS/4.AAB Serial ATA II Master: ad2 ST3160815AS/4.AAB Serial ATA II unfortunately ad0 failed today, leaving me with degraded array and ad0 offline. I did # gmirror forget gm0, then shutdown, ad0 was replaced with: ad0: 152626MB Seagate ST3160815AS 3.AAD at ata0-master SATA300 with different firmware I think. Then gmirror insert gm0 /dev/ad0 (...) Jul 31 09:55:46 julia kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: rebuilding provider ad0 finished. Jul 31 09:55:46 julia kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad0 activated. But the disk is a little bit smaller: 1. Name: mirror/gm0 Mediasize: 160040803328 (149G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r5w5e6 Consumers: 1. Name: ad2 Mediasize: 160041885696 (149G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY GenID: 1 SyncID: 1 ID: 3791030614 2. Name: ad0 Mediasize: 160040803840 (149G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY GenID: 1 SyncID: 1 ID: 2477089776 # gmirror status NameStatus Components mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ad2 ad0 so, it looks fine. Can I expect any problems now because of different sizes? Any problems when RAID will be almost full? I mean - should I make the RAID once again with exactly the same drives, or can I leave it as it is right now? Thanks in advance! http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions Drives don't matter to gmirror as long as they are at least big enough. You may get better performance with identical drives however. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UFS2 tuning for heterogeneous 4TB file system
On 7/26/09, Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 3:56 AM, b. f.bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: The file system in question will not have a common file size (which is what, as I understand, bytes per inode should be tuned for). There will be many small files ( 10 KB) and many large ones ( 500 MB). A similar, in terms of content, 2TB ntfs file system on another server has an average file size of about 26 MB with 59,246 files. Ordinarily, it may have a large variation in file sizes, but can you intervene, and segregate large and small files in separate filesystems, so that you can optimize the settings for each independently? That's a good idea, but the problem is that this raid array will grow in the future as I add additional drives. As far as I know, a partition can be expanded using growfs, but it cannot be moved to a higher address (with any standard tools). So if I create two separate partitions for different file types, the first partition will have to remain a fixed size. That would be problematic, since I cannot easily predict how much space it would need initially and for all future purposes (enough to store all the files, yet not waste space that could otherwise be used for the second partition). Perhaps gconcat(8), gmirror(8), or vinum(4) will solve your problem here. I think there are other tools as well. Ideally, I would prefer that small files do not waste more than 4 KB of space, which is what you have with ntfs. At the same time, having fsck running for days after an unclean shutdown is also not a good option (I always disable background checking). From what I've gathered so far, the two requirements are at the opposite ends in terms of file system optimization. I gather you are trying to be conservative, but have you considered using gjournal(8)? At least for the filesystems with many small files? In that way, you could safely avoid the need for most if not all use of fsck(8), and, as an adjunct benefit, you would be able to operate on the small files more quickly: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2006-June/064043.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/gjournal-desktop/article.html gjournal has a lower overhead than ZFS, and has proven to be fairly reliable. Also, you can always unhook it and revert to plain UFS mounts easily. b. Just fairly reliable? :) Well, I'm not going to promise the sun, the moon, and the stars. It has worked for me (better than softupdates, I might add) under my more modest workloads. I've done a bit of reading on gjournal and the main thing that's preventing me from using it is the recency of implementation. I've had a number of FreeBSD servers go down in the past due to power outages and SoftUpdates with foreground fsck have never failed me. I have never had a corrupt ufs2 partition, which is not something I can say about a few linux servers with ext3. Have there been any serious studies into how gjournal and SU deal with power outages? By that I mean taking two identical machines, issuing write operations, yanking the power cords, and then watching both systems recover? I'm sure that gjournal will take less time to reboot, but if this experiment is repeated a few hundred times I wonder what the corruption statistics would be. Is there ever a case, for instance, when the journal itself becomes corrupt because the power was pulled in the middle of a metadata flush? I'm not aware of any such tests, but I wouldn't be surprised if pjd@ or someone else who was interested in using gjournal(8) in a demanding environment had made some. I'll cc freebsd-fs@, because some of them may not monitor freebsd-questions. Perhaps someone there has some advice. You might also try asking on freebsd-g...@. Regards, b. Basically, I have no experience with gjournal, poor experience with other journaled file systems, and no real comparison between reliability characteristics of gjournal and SoftUpdates, which have served me very well in the past. - Max ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
NFS-client - RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure (7.2)
Hi, I'm trying to get a FreeBSD 7.2-machine (amd64) to talk to a NetApp filer using NFS. Basic network connetivity, i.e. ping, ssh etc. between the two is there, but I can't mount the respective directory from the Netapp. Here's what I get when I try to mount: # mount_nfs -i -T 192.168.1.9:/vol/vol2 /mnt [tcp] 192.168.1.9:/vol/vol2: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Timed out [tcp] 192.168.1.9:/vol/vol2: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Timed out [tcp] 192.168.1.9:/vol/vol2: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Timed out ... When I try the mount via UDP same story (only that at the beginning of the error message it reads [udp] This is what I've got in my /etc/rc.conf: nfs_client_enable=YES nfs_client_flags=-n 4 Any ideas what could be wrong here? Thanks in advance for your help, -ewald ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser
Furthermore, there's lots of stuff now bundled with the Opera web browser that I (personally) found no use for, such as a mail client, IRC client, torrent client, and some other stuff that could easily be called bloatware. Yeah, I share your take on Opera. Give Midori a try. Of course it's a young project and maybe there are not all of the features of Firefox or Opera, but Midori is lightweight and really fast. It's based on WebKit, so there should be no problem with standard conform websites. Perfect, yes! Midori is precisely what I need! Many thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:47:11 +0200 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: versions, I saw it getting... hmmm... how do I tell best? It's getting more slower in overall handling, and it often stops working completely (several seconds) I have not noticed such behaviour yet. problem with Firefox. Furthermore, there's lots of stuff now bundled with the Opera web browser that I (personally) found no use for, such as a mail client, IRC client, torrent client, and some other stuff that could easily be called bloatware. I never get the argument about 'bloatware' when it comes to Opera. Yes, there are options not that not everyone needs, but then again, most of the time they do not get loaded / appear in the menu when not used. Also take a look at the size of the installers: Opera 9.64/Windows: Classic Installer, English (US) 4.8 MB English (US) 5.4 MB International 7.2 MB Opera 9.64/FreeBSD 7.x (Static) 7.0 MB Win32 Binaries: midori Win32 v0.1.8 12.9 MB Firefox English (British) 3.5.1 win32 7.6MB Firefox English (British) 3.5.1 linux 9.3MB And there are a lot of features in Opera, for which you will need to download extra extensions in Firefox. But maybe that's only my problem (due to my ancient computer and OS). For me, Opera works much better on older hardware than Firefox. Try Opera. Maybe it works for you. Anyway, in the end everyone should use what he likes best. :) Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565|http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 pgpUOJVzFTZ7Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser
I would use Opera as an alternative to Firefox. If I can find a way to sync bookmarks across Opera browsers, I'll give it a try. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser
I would use Opera as an alternative to Firefox. If I can find a way to sync bookmarks across Opera browsers, I'll give it a try. I didn't realize Opera has built-in synchronization. That's pretty nice. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Not recognizing raid controller Adaptec AIC7901
Hi all, I'm having some problems installing FreeBSD 6.3 on my machine equipped with : Single channel Adaptec® AIC-7901 controller for Ultra320 SCSI Host RAID 0, 1, 10 support I have 4 disks which are configured in 2 Raid1, the problem is when I try to install FreeBSd from the installer cd, it shows only the separated disks. I've added also ahd_load=YES into /boot/loader.conf on the installation cd, also on the boot prompt load ahd load ahd.ko and then boot but again with no success . It were recognized only the 4 disks as separated. How can I make it recognize the raid ? Thanks in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Not recognizing raid controller Adaptec AIC7901
You may want to try using the Adaptec drivers from Adaptec, and not the native freebsd drivers. Edit /boot/loader.conf, and that may be it. I've found great success with them. -jgh On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 06:39:56PM +0200, enid vx thus spake: Hi all, I'm having some problems installing FreeBSD 6.3 on my machine equipped with : Single channel Adaptec? AIC-7901 controller for Ultra320 SCSI Host RAID 0, 1, 10 support I have 4 disks which are configured in 2 Raid1, the problem is when I try to install FreeBSd from the installer cd, it shows only the separated disks. I've added also ahd_load=YES into /boot/loader.conf on the installation cd, also on the boot prompt load ahd load ahd.ko and then boot but again with no success . It were recognized only the 4 disks as separated. How can I make it recognize the raid ? Thanks in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
amd64 and sysinstall weirdness
Dell PE 1950 FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 boot from disc01 into sysinstall, do our regular setup, reboot, and df shows only / and /devfs. f stab has /usr and /var missing. so we go into sysinstall, slices are correct: Disk name: mfid0 FDISK Partition Editor DISK Geometry: 17688 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 284157720 sectors (138748MB) Offset Size(ST)End Name PType Desc SubtypeFlags 0 63 62- 12 unused0 63 10474317 10474379 mfid0s1 8freebsd 165 104743804192965 14667344 mfid0s2 8freebsd 165 14667345 10474380 25141724 mfid0s3 8freebsd 165 25141725 259015995 284157719 mfid0s4 8freebsd 165 284157720 6376 284164095- 12 unused0 but labels: FreeBSD Disklabel Editor Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s1 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s2 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s3 Free: 10474380 blocks (5114MB) Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s4 Free: 259015995 blocks (123GB) Part Mount Size Newfs Part Mount Size Newfs - - - - ufsid/4a72noneb432c4 5114MB * mfid0s2b swap 2047MB SWAP .. the /usr and /var mount points were lost. fstab: cat /etc/fstab # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options DumpPass# /dev/mfid0s2b noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ufsid/4a72bbc67db432c4a/ ufs rw 1 1 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 we saw the /var and /usr filesystems were really there, so we added to fstab: /dev/mfid0s3/usrufs rw 2 2 /dev/mfid0s4/varufs rw 2 2 and rebooted, all seems ok. We went through this drill twice, and got the same results. /var/run/dmesg: mfid0: MFI Logical Disk on mfi0 mfid0: 138752MB (284164096 sectors) RAID volume '' is optimal SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s1 is ufsid/4a72bbc67db432c4. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s3 is ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s4 is ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ufsid/4a72bbc67db432c4a GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s3 is ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s4 is ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627 removed. Anybody know why the sysintall labels and fstab aren't showing up the way we set them up in sysinstall? thanks Len ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to boot or access problem file system
Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:20:55PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? I forgot to mention that your boot sector is fine. If it were screwed up, you wouldn't get to the boot prompt. Since the boot code cannot locate your kernel, there are several things that could have gone wrong. See below. snip The /usr files should be ok but how to access? Use fsck_ffs to try and repair the filesystem. how can I use it if I can't boot or access the file system? Use a livefs cd or use the Fixit option in the main menu of sysinstall on an install disk. That should get you a shell where you can run fsck_ffs on your disk partitions. If you have booted from CD, list the disk devices with e.g. 'ls /dev/ad*'. If you have SCSI drives, use 'da' instead of 'ad'. What does that command list? On my machine, I'll get something like this: /dev/ad4 /dev/ad4s1d /dev/ad6 /dev/ad6s1d /dev/ad4s1 /dev/ad4s1e /dev/ad6s1 /dev/ad6s1e /dev/ad4s1a /dev/ad4s1f /dev/ad6s1a /dev/ad6s1f /dev/ad4s1b /dev/ad4s1g /dev/ad6s1b /dev/ad6s1g /dev/ad4s1c /dev/ad4s1g.eli /dev/ad6s1c /dev/ad6s1g.eli If you only see e.g. /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6, your slice table has been overwritten (with fdisk) and your data is lost. If you see /dev/ad4s1 but not /dev/ad4s1a-g, the BSD partitions have been removed and your data is lost as well. Since there is only one slice on both ad4 and ad6 (otherwise you'd see /dev/ad4s2x) The next step is to examine the disk labels: bsdlabel /dev/ad4s1 # /dev/ad4s1: 8 partitions: #size offsetfstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1024000 164.2BSD 2048 16384 64008 b: 16777216 1024016 swap c: 9767680020unused0 0 # raw part, don't edit d: 4194304 178012324.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 e: 104857600 219955364.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 f: 41943040 1268531364.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 g: 807971826 1687961764.2BSD 2048 16384 0 This tells us that the a, d, e, f and g partition are carrying a BSD filesystem, and should be checked with fsck_ffs. Try these steps and report back what you find. I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. Make regular backups. Especially before big upgrades. Maybe the real problem is that the manual is too screwed up (why are there so many problems being brought up on the mailing lists? we can't all be that stupid.) It is a mailing list for questions. Ipso facto you'll see questions and problems on this list. People who are not having problems will not be posting very much. :-) As to the handbook, this is by necessity written by people who are knowledgeable on the subject they write on. Unfortunately this sometimes lead to really basic steps/assumptions being skipped because they are self-evident for the writer. If you gain enough knowledge about a subject it becomes really hard to write for people new to the system because you've internalized a lot of stuff by then. If you have specific questions about parts of the handbook, ask. Roland Thanks for replying Roland, I've been struggling with upgrading 7.0 to 7.2... it has taken a lot of my time and I am still not happy. I have it running now; Xorg finally came through but I have absolutely no idea how or why it finally started working. Actually, it was my last attempt to start it and I was totally surprised that it came up. I decided to try my former xorg.conf file which had the correct mouse driver etc. that hal did not find. X -configure was useless and totally off the track and tweaking the xorg.conf.new file did not work. In total desperation I had installed all the xorg files needed or not and hoped that might help... at first, it did not, at least I couldn't tell as there was no change. But getting flashplayer to work... that's an impossibility as I can see on this machine. Nor does gnash work... it installs and shows up under about:plugins on Firefox... but that's as far as it goest... same for flashplayer9 and linux-f8-flashplayer10 can't find the files to download ( but a few days ago they were available and worked on the amd64 system). Anyway... back to the messed up 7.1 installation. I ran livefs 7.1 and chose option 6 (I think; it was the last on the list) and I got the boot cursor (I think) ... so I entered? and got the list of commands. BTW, I don't know where to find some instructions on how to use the livefs and the command line procedures to work with to do a reccovery. For one, I find that the screen scrolls by so fast, I miss half of
Windows 2008 + AD + PF + bridge = problems?
Has anyone used Windows 2008 and active directory with a bridging, NATing firewall between the domain controller and the 2008 machine? We're in a situation where we're trying to join a domain with a 2008 machine, and no matter what we do to the firewall, joining stalls and fails. DC: Windows Server 2003 Server: Windows Server 2008 Firewall: FreeBSD 6.1 plus PF We're doing bidirectional NAT on the clients, so the DC has a real address while the Server has an RFC1918 address. We are explicitly allowing all traffic between the server and the DC, with and later without keeping state. Windows Server 2003 machines behind the firewall join just fine, and Windows 2008 Server machines outside of the firewall join just fine. A packet capture revealed a number of anomalies. Once the server starts trying to join the domain, we get all sorts of TCP transmission errors, retries, duplicate ACKs etc. In some cases, the public side of the firewall will send an ICMP host-unreachable message for a host which is clearly being BINAT. I've tinkered with net.inet.ip.intr_queue_maxlen, but it doesn't seem to help. net.inet.ip.intr_queue_drops isn't increasing at a noticeable rate, anyway. Does anyone have any thoughts and/or advice on where I can go from here? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: amd64 and sysinstall weirdness
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Len Conrad lcon...@go2france.com wrote: Dell PE 1950 FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 boot from disc01 into sysinstall, do our regular setup, reboot, and df shows only / and /devfs. f stab has /usr and /var missing. so we go into sysinstall, slices are correct: Disk name: mfid0 FDISK Partition Editor DISK Geometry: 17688 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 284157720 sectors (138748MB) Offset Size(ST)End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62- 12 unused0 63 10474317 10474379 mfid0s1 8freebsd 165 104743804192965 14667344 mfid0s2 8freebsd 165 14667345 10474380 25141724 mfid0s3 8freebsd 165 25141725 259015995 284157719 mfid0s4 8freebsd 165 284157720 6376 284164095- 12 unused0 but labels: FreeBSD Disklabel Editor Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s1 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s2 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s3 Free: 10474380 blocks (5114MB) Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s4 Free: 259015995 blocks (123GB) Part Mount Size Newfs Part Mount Size Newfs - - - - ufsid/4a72noneb432c4 5114MB * mfid0s2b swap 2047MB SWAP .. the /usr and /var mount points were lost. fstab: cat /etc/fstab # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/mfid0s2b noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ufsid/4a72bbc67db432c4a/ ufs rw 1 1 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 we saw the /var and /usr filesystems were really there, so we added to fstab: /dev/mfid0s3/usrufs rw 2 2 /dev/mfid0s4/varufs rw 2 2 and rebooted, all seems ok. We went through this drill twice, and got the same results. /var/run/dmesg: mfid0: MFI Logical Disk on mfi0 mfid0: 138752MB (284164096 sectors) RAID volume '' is optimal SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s1 is ufsid/4a72bbc67db432c4. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s3 is ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s4 is ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ufsid/4a72bbc67db432c4a GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s3 is ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s4 is ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627 removed. Anybody know why the sysintall labels and fstab aren't showing up the way we set them up in sysinstall? thanks Len Looks like you may getting slices and partitions confused. Generally your partitions are subsets of slices eg: ad0s1a ad0s1b ad0s1c ad0s1d ad0s1f Where as your output is something like this: ad0s1 ad0s2 ad0s3 ad0s4 Unless you have some pressing reason to do otherwise, choose the Auto settings they are sufficient for most purposes. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to boot or access problem file system
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 02:36:23PM -0400, PJ wrote: Thanks for replying Roland, I've been struggling with upgrading 7.0 to 7.2... it has taken a lot of my time and I am still not happy. snip Anyway... back to the messed up 7.1 installation. I ran livefs 7.1 and chose option 6 (I think; it was the last on the list) and I got the boot cursor (I think) ... Don't do that. Just wait and let the system boot, or choose 1, which amounts to the same. Then choose your country and keyboard settings from the menus you are presented with. Next, you come into the sysinstall main menu. Choose Fixit, and in the next menu choose 2 CDROM/DVD. Now you enter the standard 'sh'. If you want, type 'tcsh' to start the C shell. I find that more convenient because it uses tab completion for commands and files. You can now use all the commands that are available in the base system. No go back to my previous message and see what if anything is wrong with your disk partitions. cd devices: cd0: Device 0x1 disk devices: disk0: BIOS drive a: disk1: BIOS drive C: disk1s1: Unknown fs: 0x7 (I think this must be ntfs ? but ? ) disk2: BIOS drive D: disk3: BIOS drive E: disk3s1a: FFS disk3s1b: swap disk3s1d: FFS disk3s1e: FFS disk3s1f: FFS Do you have a dual boot installation with FreeBSD on a second drive? Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgptfYctqbFvD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to boot or access problem file system
Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:20:55PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? I forgot to mention that your boot sector is fine. If it were screwed up, you wouldn't get to the boot prompt. Since the boot code cannot locate your kernel, there are several things that could have gone wrong. See below. snip The /usr files should be ok but how to access? Use fsck_ffs to try and repair the filesystem. how can I use it if I can't boot or access the file system? Use a livefs cd or use the Fixit option in the main menu of sysinstall on an install disk. That should get you a shell where you can run fsck_ffs on your disk partitions. If you have booted from CD, list the disk devices with e.g. 'ls /dev/ad*'. If you have SCSI drives, use 'da' instead of 'ad'. What does that command list? On my machine, I'll get something like this: /dev/ad4 /dev/ad4s1d /dev/ad6 /dev/ad6s1d /dev/ad4s1 /dev/ad4s1e /dev/ad6s1 /dev/ad6s1e /dev/ad4s1a /dev/ad4s1f /dev/ad6s1a /dev/ad6s1f /dev/ad4s1b /dev/ad4s1g /dev/ad6s1b /dev/ad6s1g /dev/ad4s1c /dev/ad4s1g.eli /dev/ad6s1c /dev/ad6s1g.eli If you only see e.g. /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6, your slice table has been overwritten (with fdisk) and your data is lost. If you see /dev/ad4s1 but not /dev/ad4s1a-g, the BSD partitions have been removed and your data is lost as well. Since there is only one slice on both ad4 and ad6 (otherwise you'd see /dev/ad4s2x) The next step is to examine the disk labels: bsdlabel /dev/ad4s1 # /dev/ad4s1: 8 partitions: #size offsetfstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1024000 164.2BSD 2048 16384 64008 b: 16777216 1024016 swap c: 9767680020unused0 0 # raw part, don't edit d: 4194304 178012324.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 e: 104857600 219955364.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 f: 41943040 1268531364.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 g: 807971826 1687961764.2BSD 2048 16384 0 This tells us that the a, d, e, f and g partition are carrying a BSD filesystem, and should be checked with fsck_ffs. Try these steps and report back what you find. I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. Make regular backups. Especially before big upgrades. Maybe the real problem is that the manual is too screwed up (why are there so many problems being brought up on the mailing lists? we can't all be that stupid.) It is a mailing list for questions. Ipso facto you'll see questions and problems on this list. People who are not having problems will not be posting very much. :-) As to the handbook, this is by necessity written by people who are knowledgeable on the subject they write on. Unfortunately this sometimes lead to really basic steps/assumptions being skipped because they are self-evident for the writer. If you gain enough knowledge about a subject it becomes really hard to write for people new to the system because you've internalized a lot of stuff by then. If you have specific questions about parts of the handbook, ask. Roland I get the impression that my disks have all been overwritten; it's rather strange that in the instructions to upgrade it says to not change anything on the Newfs... and that files would not be overwritten... is that at fact? If that is true, then surely it should be possible to recover files in the /usr /var and /tmp directories. If the disks have not been overwritten... I think there was a huge misinformation gap here if this is not so... If we're upgrading a file system, there is no reason to either format or overwrite those directories and/or slices that are not involved. Anyway, I'm waiting to hear if there is any hoope here or do I just go ahead an reinstall everything? -- Hervé Kempf: Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme. - Phil Jourdan --- p...@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Windows 2008 + AD + PF + bridge = problems?
Has anyone used Windows 2008 and active directory with a bridging, NATing firewall between the domain controller and the 2008 machine? We're in a situation where we're trying to join a domain with a 2008 machine, and no matter what we do to the firewall, joining stalls and fails. Haven't used the combination myself, but in couple of cases MS developer/beta evaluation staff has been quite helpful when Vista beta got all kind of funnies when trying to connect to internet via PF. So giving MS the information of the problems in traffic might (in case you want to help MS to troubleshoot Win2008...) help some. Another idea could be giving 7.x a shot as it has newer version of PF IIRC. -Reko ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Windows 2008 + AD + PF + bridge = problems?
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Reko Turja reko.tu...@liukuma.net wrote: Has anyone used Windows 2008 and active directory with a bridging, NATing firewall between the domain controller and the 2008 machine? We're in a situation where we're trying to join a domain with a 2008 machine, and no matter what we do to the firewall, joining stalls and fails. Haven't used the combination myself, but in couple of cases MS developer/beta evaluation staff has been quite helpful when Vista beta got all kind of funnies when trying to connect to internet via PF. So giving MS the information of the problems in traffic might (in case you want to help MS to troubleshoot Win2008...) help some. Do you happen to have contact information for this team? Another idea could be giving 7.x a shot as it has newer version of PF IIRC. That's on the list of things to try, but upgrading will probably be painful, so I'm hoping to find something else first. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Document iso compression suggestion
Hi, I'm not sure if this is the correct email address to use for this suggestion but anyway, I thought you would like to know I managed to compress the iso '7.2-RELEASE-amd64-docs.iso' at 294MB down to just 21.2MB by using 7-zip's ultra compression method - this could help you to conserve bandwidth if you offered a compressed archive for document CD isos. Hope this helps :) Thanks for your time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to boot or access problem file system
Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 02:36:23PM -0400, PJ wrote: Thanks for replying Roland, I've been struggling with upgrading 7.0 to 7.2... it has taken a lot of my time and I am still not happy. snip Anyway... back to the messed up 7.1 installation. I ran livefs 7.1 and chose option 6 (I think; it was the last on the list) and I got the boot cursor (I think) ... Don't do that. Just wait and let the system boot, or choose 1, which amounts to the same. Then choose your country and keyboard settings from the menus you are presented with. Next, you come into the sysinstall main menu. Choose Fixit, and in the next menu choose 2 CDROM/DVD. Now you enter the standard 'sh'. If you want, type 'tcsh' to start the C shell. I find that more convenient because it uses tab completion for commands and files. You can now use all the commands that are available in the base system. No go back to my previous message and see what if anything is wrong with your disk partitions. cd devices: cd0: Device 0x1 disk devices: disk0: BIOS drive a: disk1: BIOS drive C: disk1s1: Unknown fs: 0x7 (I think this must be ntfs ? but ? ) disk2: BIOS drive D: disk3: BIOS drive E: disk3s1a: FFS disk3s1b: swap disk3s1d: FFS disk3s1e: FFS disk3s1f: FFS Do you have a dual boot installation with FreeBSD on a second drive? Roland Basically, the news is not good. The directories files are not what I had to begin with. ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: Permission denied. Not a dual boot installation - pure FreeBSD. I was using this as a server with apache/mysql/samba/cups + a number of programs like Netbeans, Openoffice, Gimp, Inkscape. etc. etc. But I suppose I could move the disks to another machine, or maybe better, add a Windows disk to this box... -- Hervé Kempf: Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme. - Phil Jourdan --- p...@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to boot or access problem file system
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:12:21PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:20:55PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? I forgot to mention that your boot sector is fine. If it were screwed up, you wouldn't get to the boot prompt. Since the boot code cannot locate your kernel, there are several things that could have gone wrong. See below. snip The /usr files should be ok but how to access? Use fsck_ffs to try and repair the filesystem. how can I use it if I can't boot or access the file system? Use a livefs cd or use the Fixit option in the main menu of sysinstall on an install disk. That should get you a shell where you can run fsck_ffs on your disk partitions. If you have booted from CD, list the disk devices with e.g. 'ls /dev/ad*'. If you have SCSI drives, use 'da' instead of 'ad'. What does that command list? On my machine, I'll get something like this: /dev/ad4 /dev/ad4s1d /dev/ad6 /dev/ad6s1d /dev/ad4s1 /dev/ad4s1e /dev/ad6s1 /dev/ad6s1e /dev/ad4s1a /dev/ad4s1f /dev/ad6s1a /dev/ad6s1f /dev/ad4s1b /dev/ad4s1g /dev/ad6s1b /dev/ad6s1g /dev/ad4s1c /dev/ad4s1g.eli /dev/ad6s1c /dev/ad6s1g.eli If you only see e.g. /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6, your slice table has been overwritten (with fdisk) and your data is lost. If you see /dev/ad4s1 but not /dev/ad4s1a-g, the BSD partitions have been removed and your data is lost as well. Since there is only one slice on both ad4 and ad6 (otherwise you'd see /dev/ad4s2x) The next step is to examine the disk labels: bsdlabel /dev/ad4s1 # /dev/ad4s1: 8 partitions: #size offsetfstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1024000 164.2BSD 2048 16384 64008 b: 16777216 1024016 swap c: 9767680020unused0 0 # raw part, don't edit d: 4194304 178012324.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 e: 104857600 219955364.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 f: 41943040 1268531364.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 g: 807971826 1687961764.2BSD 2048 16384 0 This tells us that the a, d, e, f and g partition are carrying a BSD filesystem, and should be checked with fsck_ffs. Try these steps and report back what you find. I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. Make regular backups. Especially before big upgrades. Maybe the real problem is that the manual is too screwed up (why are there so many problems being brought up on the mailing lists? we can't all be that stupid.) It is a mailing list for questions. Ipso facto you'll see questions and problems on this list. People who are not having problems will not be posting very much. :-) As to the handbook, this is by necessity written by people who are knowledgeable on the subject they write on. Unfortunately this sometimes lead to really basic steps/assumptions being skipped because they are self-evident for the writer. If you gain enough knowledge about a subject it becomes really hard to write for people new to the system because you've internalized a lot of stuff by then. If you have specific questions about parts of the handbook, ask. I get the impression that my disks have all been overwritten; it's Don't have impressions. Get the data. Boot from a livefs CD and start a shell as explained in in some of my previous messages. Then use the commands listed above to check your filesystems. *And report back wat you found*. rather strange that in the instructions to upgrade it says to not change anything on the Newfs... and that files would not be overwritten... is that at fact? What instructions are you referring to? Neither the handbook section [http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-freebsdupdate.html] nor the manual page for freebsd-update mention newfs at all! Nor should they. If that is true, then surely it should be possible to recover files in the /usr /var and /tmp directories. If the disks have not been overwritten... I think there was a huge misinformation gap here if this is not so... For an upgrade, the filesystems are not overwritten. Only a new install creates new filesystems. Please boot from a livefs CD and check the filesystems on the harddisk as explained before and report the results. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725)
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Re: how to boot or access problem file system
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:42:43PM -0400, PJ wrote: Basically, the news is not good. The directories files are not what I had to begin with. ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: Permission denied. Now that is certainly weird. :-) I've never come across something like that. What do 'mount' and 'ls -ld /dev' return? Maybe /dev is mounted with incorrect permissions. You are logged in as root, I presume? What strikes me as strange is that your data from the boot prompt suggest that your FreeBSD install is on ad3 instead of on ad0. You haven't messed with the cabling from the disks, or changed BIOS settings regarding the boot sequence, have you? Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgperqaqVrGah.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to boot or access problem file system
Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:12:21PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:20:55PM -0400, PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? I forgot to mention that your boot sector is fine. If it were screwed up, you wouldn't get to the boot prompt. Since the boot code cannot locate your kernel, there are several things that could have gone wrong. See below. snip The /usr files should be ok but how to access? Use fsck_ffs to try and repair the filesystem. how can I use it if I can't boot or access the file system? Use a livefs cd or use the Fixit option in the main menu of sysinstall on an install disk. That should get you a shell where you can run fsck_ffs on your disk partitions. If you have booted from CD, list the disk devices with e.g. 'ls /dev/ad*'. If you have SCSI drives, use 'da' instead of 'ad'. What does that command list? On my machine, I'll get something like this: /dev/ad4 /dev/ad4s1d /dev/ad6 /dev/ad6s1d /dev/ad4s1 /dev/ad4s1e /dev/ad6s1 /dev/ad6s1e /dev/ad4s1a /dev/ad4s1f /dev/ad6s1a /dev/ad6s1f /dev/ad4s1b /dev/ad4s1g /dev/ad6s1b /dev/ad6s1g /dev/ad4s1c /dev/ad4s1g.eli /dev/ad6s1c /dev/ad6s1g.eli If you only see e.g. /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6, your slice table has been overwritten (with fdisk) and your data is lost. If you see /dev/ad4s1 but not /dev/ad4s1a-g, the BSD partitions have been removed and your data is lost as well. Since there is only one slice on both ad4 and ad6 (otherwise you'd see /dev/ad4s2x) The next step is to examine the disk labels: bsdlabel /dev/ad4s1 # /dev/ad4s1: 8 partitions: #size offsetfstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1024000 164.2BSD 2048 16384 64008 b: 16777216 1024016 swap c: 9767680020unused0 0 # raw part, don't edit d: 4194304 178012324.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 e: 104857600 219955364.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 f: 41943040 1268531364.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 g: 807971826 1687961764.2BSD 2048 16384 0 This tells us that the a, d, e, f and g partition are carrying a BSD filesystem, and should be checked with fsck_ffs. Try these steps and report back what you find. I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. Make regular backups. Especially before big upgrades. Maybe the real problem is that the manual is too screwed up (why are there so many problems being brought up on the mailing lists? we can't all be that stupid.) It is a mailing list for questions. Ipso facto you'll see questions and problems on this list. People who are not having problems will not be posting very much. :-) As to the handbook, this is by necessity written by people who are knowledgeable on the subject they write on. Unfortunately this sometimes lead to really basic steps/assumptions being skipped because they are self-evident for the writer. If you gain enough knowledge about a subject it becomes really hard to write for people new to the system because you've internalized a lot of stuff by then. If you have specific questions about parts of the handbook, ask. I get the impression that my disks have all been overwritten; it's Don't have impressions. Get the data. Boot from a livefs CD and start a shell as explained in in some of my previous messages. Then use the commands listed above to check your filesystems. *And report back wat you found*. rather strange that in the instructions to upgrade it says to not change anything on the Newfs... and that files would not be overwritten... is that at fact? What instructions are you referring to? Neither the handbook section [http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-freebsdupdate.html] nor the manual page for freebsd-update mention newfs at all! Nor should they. Well, it sounds like we should be ok, but the instructions I am speaking of are those on the installation disks ... when one selects the update to a newer version and then as asked to set the slice names /; swap; /tmp; and /var. If I have made an error in this, then I can only put the full blame on whoever created the installation system... there should be the most obvious checks balances about such an installation/upgrade as - warnings about what the installation is going to do, and are you sure this is what you want to do; and warnings that any existing files will be
Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:04:22 +0200, Andreas Rudisch cyb.@gmx.net wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:47:11 +0200 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: versions, I saw it getting... hmmm... how do I tell best? It's getting more slower in overall handling, and it often stops working completely (several seconds) I have not noticed such behaviour yet. Nobody else seems to have. This is what I wrote regarding this very strange topic: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-March/194123.html I just hope that it goes away with an update of the system I'm planning to do soon. :-) problem with Firefox. Furthermore, there's lots of stuff now bundled with the Opera web browser that I (personally) found no use for, such as a mail client, IRC client, torrent client, and some other stuff that could easily be called bloatware. I never get the argument about 'bloatware' when it comes to Opera. Only for newer versions. I found the older versions a bit easier to configure, especially the Options dialog was better organized. But as I mentioned bloat (NB the quotes), it's just that there's much more functionality in Opera, making it run slower (on the same system), but finally, it runs *much* faster than Firefox, I think. And there are a lot of features in Opera, for which you will need to download extra extensions in Firefox. Exactly. I know, for example, that there are mouse gestures in Firefox, too. But they are not built-in. My main argument for Opera is the excellent combination of mouse and KEYBOARD support. I'm using the english version because the shortcuts and keystrokes are more intuitive than in the german version. Firefox even seems to lack a key to quit the program. :-) For me, Opera works much better on older hardware than Firefox. That's true. Opera on 300 MHz P2 is faster than Firefox 3 on 2 GHz P4 here. Anyway, in the end everyone should use what he likes best. :) Of course. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Windows 2008 + AD + PF + bridge = problems?
Do you happen to have contact information for this team? Sadly no, I just reported the perceived bug via Vista beta bug reporting - can't remember if that was from the OS itself or from the web, and got pretty fast reply and tech savvy responder from there. -Reko ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to boot or access problem file system
Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:42:43PM -0400, PJ wrote: Basically, the news is not good. The directories files are not what I had to begin with. ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: Permission denied. Now that is certainly weird. :-) I've never come across something like that. What do 'mount' and 'ls -ld /dev' return? Maybe /dev is mounted with incorrect permissions. You are logged in as root, I presume? What strikes me as strange is that your data from the boot prompt suggest that your FreeBSD install is on ad3 instead of on ad0. You haven't messed with the cabling from the disks, or changed BIOS settings regarding the boot sequence, have you? Roland No cabling changes... but I did try different boot options... My setup is a raid1 mirror setup on two 75gb sata disks and another 80gb sata disk as well as another 40gb disk(who know what's on it) could be WindowsXP, but I haven't used it. I could try running PartitionMagic to see what's on there; but there's no guarantee it'll show anything... will try now. Ok, PM shows disk1 as ntfs; Disk2 is FreeBSD/386 76,316.6mb 0.0 unused active Primary Strange that it shows as full... wasnt when it was working. Weird if not strange... whereis disk 3 ? I may have to open the box... -- Hervé Kempf: Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme. - Phil Jourdan --- p...@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to boot or access problem file system
PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:42:43PM -0400, PJ wrote: Basically, the news is not good. The directories files are not what I had to begin with. ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: Permission denied. Now that is certainly weird. :-) I've never come across something like that. What do 'mount' and 'ls -ld /dev' return? Maybe /dev is mounted with incorrect permissions. You are logged in as root, I presume? Now, how could I be logged in? from livefs? On bootup, I see ar0 boot error or something like that... ls /dev ... shows ad0, ad10, ad12, ad4 and ar0 ad0 only has ad0s1 (I assume this to be ntfs ad10 also has s1, s1a, s1b, c, d, e, e, suffixes ad4 has s1, s1a, s1b, no c, but d, e, f suffixes The stench from Denmark is getting to me... ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:15:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:04:22 +0200, Andreas Rudisch cyb.@gmx.net wrote: I never get the argument about 'bloatware' when it comes to Opera. Only for newer versions. I found the older versions a bit easier to configure, especially the Options dialog was better organized. But as I mentioned bloat (NB the quotes), it's just that there's much more functionality in Opera, making it run slower (on the same system), but finally, it runs *much* faster than Firefox, I think. I don't find that it runs much faster than Firefox. In fact, in recent versions, it runs slower sometimes -- though still marginally faster more often than not. And there are a lot of features in Opera, for which you will need to download extra extensions in Firefox. Exactly. I know, for example, that there are mouse gestures in Firefox, too. But they are not built-in. My main argument for Opera is the excellent combination of mouse and KEYBOARD support. I'm using the english version because the shortcuts and keystrokes are more intuitive than in the german version. I have the opposite experience: Opera lacks keyboard shortcuts for a lot of what I do in Firefox. A nice touch shared by Firefox and Chrome, but not by anything else I've used (including Opera, IE, Midori, et cetera) is the set of keyboard shortcuts for URL construction. For instance, if you enter: freebsd . . . then press Ctrl+Enter, it automatically navigates to: www.freebsd.com . . . or press Shitf+Enter, it automatically navigates to: www.freebsd.net . . . or press Ctrl+Shift+Enter, it automatically navigates to: www.freebsd.org Firefox even seems to lack a key to quit the program. :-) That's easy. Just press Ctrl+Q and it'll close Firefox immediately. Anyway, in the end everyone should use what he likes best. :) Of course. :-) . . . just as soon as it gets ported to FreeBSD. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth markinct @techrepublic.com: Don't take anything you do on-line lightly. Caveat Clicker... pgphjZ7rF0RRv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:10:49AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: Perfect, yes! Midori is precisely what I need! Many thanks. I use Midori as a backup browser sometimes, but be aware that it's pretty buggy, and interface design could use a little help. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth H. L. Mencken: Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard. pgpjHLIi9WF0w.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:56:36 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:15:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: Firefox even seems to lack a key to quit the program. :-) That's easy. Just press Ctrl+Q and it'll close Firefox immediately. Negative for firefox-2.0.0.12,1 (on my desktop system) - no Ctrl+Q. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
AP#1 on Phy#1 : The reason on my system
Hi, A long time back, I had reported getting AP#1 on Phy#1 error messages and boot failure on my amd64 system. After many tests, I am convinced the problem occurs only if a USB mouse is plugged in at boot-time. A few days back, I finally got a USB-to-PS2 converter and hooked my mouse into a PS2 port, with USB mouse support disabled in the BIOS. I've never had this problem since then. So it's pretty certain that the USB mouse was the source of the boot-failures. Since Windows never had any boot problems with the USB mouse, I think this might be an issue for the FreeBSD kernel developers. If this helps anyone or clears any doubts, I can only be glad. (NB : I also have a report from a friend of mine using amd64 with debian-5.02 that debian has pretty much the same problem. He has taken my advice and is now hooking the mouse into the PS/2 port with good results). Thank you -- Regards Manish Jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com +91-96500-10329 Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to boot or access problem file system
Gardner Bell --- On Fri, 7/31/09, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: From: PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system To: Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:44 PM PJ wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:42:43PM -0400, PJ wrote: Basically, the news is not good. The directories files are not what I had to begin with. ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: Permission denied. Now that is certainly weird. :-) I've never come across something like that. What do 'mount' and 'ls -ld /dev' return? Maybe /dev is mounted with incorrect permissions. You are logged in as root, I presume? Now, how could I be logged in? from livefs? On bootup, I see ar0 boot error or something like that... ls /dev ... shows ad0, ad10, ad12, ad4 and ar0 ad0 only has ad0s1 (I assume this to be ntfs ad10 also has s1, s1a, s1b, c, d, e, e, suffixes ad4 has s1, s1a, s1b, no c, but d, e, f suffixes The stench from Denmark is getting to me... ;-) Insulting much with your remark about Denmark? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:10:07PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:56:36 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: That's easy. Just press Ctrl+Q and it'll close Firefox immediately. Negative for firefox-2.0.0.12,1 (on my desktop system) - no Ctrl+Q. :-) I don't remember that capability lacking in Firefox 2, but it has been a little while since I've used it, so I don't really know for sure. You should be able to close it at least by pressing Ctrl+W once per open tab. That's a keyboard shortcut that closes the current tab, and if you do that when there's only one tab open, that should close the browser (but only if you have it configured to close the browser when closing the last tab). I think the relevant configuration option in the about:config window is: browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab I'm pretty sure I was able to close Firefox with a keyboard shortcut back when I used Firefox 2, but I don't remember how. I guess you're on your own, unless someone else here uses Firefox 2 and can help you out. Does Alt+F4 work for you? That's probably dependent on your choice of window manager. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Paul Graham: Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to build programs out of the wrong concepts. pgpjWbnSvuY5P.pgp Description: PGP signature
