Perl updates

2009-09-13 Thread Jos Chrispijn
Can someone explain why we have to run an update batch in order to have 
all Perl related programs running with this update? Wouldn't it be 
better to upgrade Perl and have all programs use it as it hadn't been 
updated at all?


Jos Chrispijn
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Re: Perl updates

2009-09-13 Thread Matthew Seaman

Jos Chrispijn wrote:
Can someone explain why we have to run an update batch in order to have 
all Perl related programs running with this update? Wouldn't it be 
better to upgrade Perl and have all programs use it as it hadn't been 
updated at all?


You're talking about the update of lang/perl5.10 from perl-5.10.0
to perl-5.10.1 ?

The reason you need to run perl-after-upgrade is because perl library
modules are stored in directory trees which encode the perl version number.
perl-after-upgrade basically moves installed modules from

  /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0 


to

  /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1

plus it fixes up all of the pkg-plists and various other places where
the directory path is embedded.  Alternatively you could just re-install
every single perl module on the system, plus any other ports that depend
on perl, but that's going to be the majority of the software on your machine
and perl-after-upgrade is a lot quicker.

Even so, ports that embed a perl interpreter -- ie. that dynamically link
against libperl.so -- will need to be recompiled, to account for libperl.so
now being in a different location.  There aren't too many of these:
net-mgmt/net-snmp and www/mod_perl{,2} are probably the most commonly
encountered.  One of the functions of perl-after-upgrade is to tell you what
packages need to be rebuilt because of this.

Why isn't perl-after-upgrade run automatically?  Two reasons. Firstly, the
ports system cannot itself distinguish what updates would require
perl-after-upgrade to be run:  when updating, the mechanism is to delete the
old package and then install the new one as if de-novo.  The newly installed
package has no information about what older version of itself it is replacing,
if any.

Secondly, you can't make perl-after-upgrade clever enough to deal with all
conceivable corner cases.  Other than by enforcing particular usage rules
on how individual admins manage their perl installations -- a policy that
is manifestly *not the BSD way* -- this is unfeasible.  Given that we hold that
it is in the gift of the individual admin to decide how to manage their systems,
there have to be stages somewhere that involve the admin making a concious
decision about what to do.  Running perl-after-upgrade is one of those points.

Lastly, just to note that if the upgrade is across a significantly large change
in version number: eg from perl-5.8 to perl-5.10, then any dynamically loaded
compiled extension modules (see perlxs(1)) will have to be recompiled as the
ABI is not guaranteed to be kept the same in that case.  Unfortunately,
distinguishing modules that use perlxs from pure perl modules is not something
the ports system is currently capable of, so the upgrade instructions there are
rebuild everything that depends on perl.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: linux-pango won't install

2009-09-13 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 02:19:22PM +0400, Boris Samorodov typed:
 On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:01:23 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote:
 
   If you still want to install the port, you could just add this to
   the /etc/make.conf file:
   
   # Pango
   .if $(.CURDIR:M*/x11-toolkits/linux-pango)
   DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes
   .endif
 
  How long has this been broken for 7.2?  Considering all the stuff that
  depends on linux-pango, I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed.

There is a native pango port. Suckz also...

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Re: FreeBSD RoadMap

2009-09-13 Thread Ivailo Bonev
- Original Message - 
From: Wolfgang Zenker wolfg...@lyxys.ka.sub.org

To: freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD RoadMap



* Masoom Shaikh masoom.sha...@gmail.com [090713 20:26]:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Andrew Reilly 
andrew-free...@areilly.bpc-users.org wrote:

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:55:19AM -0400, grarpamp wrote:

Is there a general roadmap of what's planned
for future major releases? I don't mean minor
stuff like driver or contributed version bumps.
But bigger, or just plain cool things, like as SMP,
soft updates, ZFS, netgraph, pf, etc, were in the past.



I doubt that there's much big in the ambit of Unix-like OS
that isn't already in the 8-current series.



In a project like FreeBSD, what's in the roadmap equates
pretty closely with what are the developers working on, and
that is summarised in the quarterly status reports, such as this
one:
http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2009-01-2009-03.html



As for when any of this will hit the tree and find its way
into a release, that's very much a how long is a piece of
string sort of question; not really the way FreeBSD works.
Particularly since it moved to a calendar-based release
schedule.



IMO, YMMV, i-do-not-speak-for-freebsd, etc.



can this help ?



http://ivoras.sharanet.org/freebsd/freebsd8.html


or you could visit this years eurobsdcon and listen to
http://www.ukuug.org/events/eurobsdcon2009/talks/#mckusick


or http://wiki.freebsd.org/8.0TODO for changes before 8-RELEASE


:-)
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Re: How to setup mDNSResponder on FreeBSD?

2009-09-13 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 11:14:33PM +0800, Sagara Wijetunga typed:
 Hi all
 
 I have installed the net/mDNSResponder port on a FreeBSD 7.2 i386 
 computer. Set to launch the mdnsd on start up (in /etc/rc.conf).  
 Changed hosts line in /etc/nsswitch.conf to hosts: files mdns dns. 
 Rebooted.
 
 mDNSIdentify name.local immediately shows the IP address of the other 
 computer but ping name.local shows following message:
 ping: cannot resolve name.local: Unknown host
 
 Its the same for ssh too. Is there anything else to set up in FreeBSD?

Yes. It's called bind.

:)

Ruben

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Re: Perl updates

2009-09-13 Thread Jos Chrispijn

Matthew Seaman wrote:

You're talking about the update of lang/perl5.10 from perl-5.10.0
to perl-5.10.1 ?

The reason you need to run perl-after-upgrade is because perl library
modules are stored in directory trees which encode the perl version 
number.

perl-after-upgrade basically moves installed modules from


[-snip-]

Thanks, appreciate this detailed information.

Jos Chrispijn
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Re: linux-pango won't install

2009-09-13 Thread ajtiM
On Saturday 12 September 2009 05:19:22 Boris Samorodov wrote:
 On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:01:23 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote:
   If you still want to install the port, you could just add this to
   the /etc/make.conf file:
  
   # Pango
   .if $(.CURDIR:M*/x11-toolkits/linux-pango)
   DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes
   .endif
 
  How long has this been broken for 7.2?  Considering all the stuff that
  depends on linux-pango, I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed.

 It will be broken until someone provide an URL to non-vulnerable
 RPM package.

Upgrade to the latest version of Pango (1.24 or later), available from the 
Pango Web site
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat...ch/pango/field[]/1/field[]/2

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Can't install FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE and 8.0-BETA4

2009-09-13 Thread Zbigniew Komarnicki
Hello,

I can't install FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE and 8.0-BETA4 on laptop HP
Pavilion Entertainment PC dv5 - 1150ew.
I got the following message when boot from CD install
8.0-BETA4-amd64-bootonly.iso similarly for 7.2-RELEASE:

...
run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config
run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config
run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config
run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 240 seconds for xpt_config
run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 300 seconds for xpt_config
panic: run_interrupt_driven_config_hooks: waited too long
cpuid=0
KDB: enter: panic
[thread pid 0 tid 10]
Stopped at   kdb_enter+0x3d:  movq $0,0x68d1e0(%rip)
db

and thats all. Is maybe also someone also have such problem?

Zbigniew
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VLC from ports collection

2009-09-13 Thread Roy Stuivenberg
Hello,

My install VLC did stop with remark

Port marked as IGNORE: multimedia/vlc:

In the makefile i found this line

.if ${PERL_LEVEL}  500800
BROKEN= Does not compile with perl ${PERL_VERSION}
.endif

Can I (and if so who) edit this option?  [FreeBSD 7.2 stable - gnome2]

Regards,

Roy Stuivenberg.
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Question of keyboard input after lanuch vlc

2009-09-13 Thread PstreeM China
hello all :

  yestoday i install the vlc media player use ports ,  the question is that
:

After i lanuch vlc (In a X Env , just test  Openbox and xfce ),   i can not
input any word ,look like keyboard is faile , mouse are normal ,  then i
kill (click the X) it , the keyboard is normal.

test that , lanuch vlc , when the CAPSLOCK is on , i can input any word
(ADKXKOPI and so on ) .. and still can not input word when CAPSLOCK is off.

 can someone give me help for fix this Question  ??  thanks all !

Best Regards.
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Re: Can't install FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE and 8.0-BETA4

2009-09-13 Thread Uwe Laverenz

Am 13.09.2009 14:11, schrieb Zbigniew Komarnicki:


run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config
run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config
run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config
run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 240 seconds for xpt_config
run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 300 seconds for xpt_config
panic: run_interrupt_driven_config_hooks: waited too long
cpuid=0
KDB: enter: panic
[thread pid 0 tid 10]
Stopped at   kdb_enter+0x3d:  movq $0,0x68d1e0(%rip)
db

and thats all. Is maybe also someone also have such problem?


Yes, several people reported this problem. There is a workaround that 
might help: disable the firewire device (IEEE 1394) in the BIOS of your 
machine and try again.


cu,
Uwe
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FreeBSD-8 Release Type?

2009-09-13 Thread Tom Smith
Hey guys, we've googled and searched the FreeBSD website... cannot find the
answer. Will FreeBSD-8 be a 'normal' or 'extended' support release? If it's
normal, we'll probably just stick with 7.1, but if it is extended, we'll go
with 8.

Thanks!

Tom
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Re: Can't install FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE and 8.0-BETA4

2009-09-13 Thread FuLLBLaSTstorm
Hi,
I am having _exactly_ the same issue with my Fujitsu-Siemens ESPRIMO
V6505. And unfortunately for me the workaround listed above is not
applicable as there're no option such as firewireIEEE1394 in my BIOS
=(.

I know it's bad policy to request a feature than to implement it, but
anywayz...It would be greatly appreciated if someone fixed this issue.
PLEASE!!!

2009/9/13 Uwe Laverenz u...@laverenz.de:
 Am 13.09.2009 14:11, schrieb Zbigniew Komarnicki:

 run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config
 run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config
 run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config
 run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 240 seconds for xpt_config
 run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 300 seconds for xpt_config
 panic: run_interrupt_driven_config_hooks: waited too long
 cpuid=0
 KDB: enter: panic
 [thread pid 0 tid 10]
 Stopped at   kdb_enter+0x3d:  movq     $0,0x68d1e0(%rip)
 db

 and thats all. Is maybe also someone also have such problem?

 Yes, several people reported this problem. There is a workaround that might
 help: disable the firewire device (IEEE 1394) in the BIOS of your machine
 and try again.

 cu,
 Uwe
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Character Escape sequences and fortune

2009-09-13 Thread Steven Friedrich
I'm wanting to embed escape sequences for colors into my fortune files.
It appears that fortune doesn't user the pager specified by PAGER and doesn't 
support escape sequences.

Anyone know how to embed color, bold, or italics into fortune files?
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[OFF?] Mac OX Driver

2009-09-13 Thread Mario Lobo
Sorry to put a lame question here but I need a little feedback as to keep my 
hopes up or bury them.

I have an old sound board (echo gina20) that I need to keep using (for $$$ 
reasons), but I also must upgrade my OSes to 64 bits. There are XP 32bit 
drivers but no XP 64bit ones for it. There are no Gina20 drivers for freebsd 
but there IS a Mac OS X driver for it!. 

Is it possible to use a Mac driver on FreeBSD? Has this ever been tried or 
done? should I bury my hopes?

Thanks,
-- 
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http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br
FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE)
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Re: VLC from ports collection

2009-09-13 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 03:49:49PM +0200, Roy Stuivenberg wrote:
 Hello,
 
 My install VLC did stop with remark
 
 Port marked as IGNORE: multimedia/vlc:
 
 In the makefile i found this line
 
 .if ${PERL_LEVEL}  500800
 BROKEN= Does not compile with perl ${PERL_VERSION}
 .endif
 
 Can I (and if so who) edit this option?  [FreeBSD 7.2 stable - gnome2]

The obvious solution is for you to upgrade perl. Is there a specific
requirement for the perl version you're on?

Cheers.
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links_don't_work

2009-09-13 Thread edem
http://www.freebsd.org/ru/projects/newbies.html
On this page some links don't work .Could you update the page? 
Thanks in advance.
 Yours sincerely Jalaalov Edem

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add own program to ports + help with port / program

2009-09-13 Thread Stefan Miklosovic
hi list,

I am about writing shell script which adds system account
by tens (even hundreds). Info about added accounts is stored
in external file which has syntax like this

account-name:comment:email-addres

Briefly,
account-name is name of account
comment field is comment which appears in /etc/passwd comment field
email-address is address where info about just created account is sent
(optional)

eg.
joe:Joe Brown:j...@something.com brown%3a...@something.com
mark:Mark Red:m...@nowhere.org red%3am...@nowhere.org
tim:Tim Yellow:ti...@example.com yellow%3ati...@example.com

Script is checking file syntax and if syntax is bad, it exits.
If it is ok, accounts is being created.

You can modify a lot of infos, these are stored in config file in
/usr/local/etc/pwgroup.conf,
eg

# output file with passwords of newly
# created user accounts
PASSWD_FILE=passwords

# uid of first created user
UID=2000

# root home dir of users
HOME_DIR=/home

# comment for users, appears in /etc/passwd
# in comment field
COMMENT=

# primary group for users, if empty,
# primary group will be a user name
GROUP=users

# comma separated list of groups
# users should be a member of
GROUPLIST=

# shell for users
SHELL=/bin/csh

# use quotas
QUOTAS=NO

# hard quote limit
QUOTA_HARD=1536

# soft quote limit
QUOTA_SOFT=1024

# disk device upon which users are created
DISK_DEV=/home

# expiration date of accounts
ACCOUNT_EXP=30-Jun-2010

# length of password
PASSWORD_LENGTH=8

==
as you can see, you can set quotas for users, account expiration
of accounts, password length, shell and so on. Variables in config
file are default, if you do not overwrite some at command line.

some examples:
# pwgrp -a -f users -c unix begginer -s /usr/local/bin/bash -q -qh 2048 -l
10 (adding users)
# pwgrp -r -f remove_users (list of users for removing)

Password are generated by apg program
Quotas are set by setquotas.

The main reason I write this mail is to make some feedback about program to
me
and even test it and comment it.

I want to write this program but I do not know if I do it correct and I need
some
feedback about programming style or just some info what do you think about
it.

At this time, there is absence of manual, but if you track code, I think
you understand it.

Any ideas are highly appreciated.
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Re: add own program to ports + help with port / program

2009-09-13 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:38:00 +0200, Stefan Miklosovic 
miklosovic.free...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am about writing shell script which adds system account
 by tens (even hundreds).

Interesting and useful tool. I'm sure many sysadmins have
created such tools for their own needs, but it wouldn't be
bad to have one publically available from the ports collection.



 Password are generated by apg program

In order to employ an alternate password generation program
(e. g. pwgen), you could even add an entry to your configuration
file.



 I want to write this program but I do not know if I do it correct and I need
 some
 feedback about programming style or just some info what do you think about
 it.

Style is highly debatable and is discussed ocassionally on this
list. But finally, YOU are the programmer and YOU are the one
who decides about style.

Programming tips to mainly rely on which programming language
you use. For example, if you're using C, I would suggest you to
only use safe functions (e. g. no strcpy() function) and
always check return values (e. g. fopen(), fputs() and fclose()
functions, if you use them for accessing files). In case you
are using threads, check that your program is thread safe.

Testing as much as possible is important because you're writing
a program that is acting on system level (root) when it does
simply create user accounts.



 At this time, there is absence of manual, but if you track code, I think
 you understand it.

In order to comply to FreeBSD's philosophy of quality, you should,
if your program is complete, take the time to write a manpage.
As a developer, I always loved FreeBSD for its excellent
documentation. Don't do it the Linux way - leave documentation
to the Web, a Wiki, or the users. :-)




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Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Re: [OFF?] Mac OX Driver

2009-09-13 Thread John Nielsen

On Sep 13, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Mario Lobo ml...@digiart.art.br wrote:

Sorry to put a lame question here but I need a little feedback as to  
keep my

hopes up or bury them.

I have an old sound board (echo gina20) that I need to keep using  
(for $$$
reasons), but I also must upgrade my OSes to 64 bits. There are XP  
32bit
drivers but no XP 64bit ones for it. There are no Gina20 drivers for  
freebsd

but there IS a Mac OS X driver for it!.

Is it possible to use a Mac driver on FreeBSD?


In a word, no. If you have access to the source it should be possible  
to port the driver, but there's no reason to assume the effort would  
be trivial.



Has this ever been tried or
done? should I bury my hopes?


See above. Drivers do get ported between OSes all the time but there's  
no magic involved. FreeBSD and Darwin have very different kernel  
origins. Snow Leopard may be your friend.


JN

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Smartmontools + Highpoint hptrr?

2009-09-13 Thread Daniel Eriksson
I'm trying to monitor SATA drives connected to a HighPoint RocketRAID 
2340 card (hptrr driver) using smartmontools, but it doesn't seem to work.


Has anyone managed to get this to work? I'm using RELENG_8 / amd64 if 
that makes any difference.


I've tried both the smartmontools port and a direct checkout from their 
SVN, and I'm getting very similar error messages. From the changelog and 
the manpage it looks like some work has been done to make this work.


/Daniel Eriksson
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Re: [OFF?] Mac OX Driver

2009-09-13 Thread Michael David Crawford

Mario Lobo wrote:
Is it possible to use a Mac driver on FreeBSD? Has this ever been tried or 
done? should I bury my hopes?


Mac OS X has a unique C++ driver architecture called the I/O Kit.  It's 
quite unlike the driver systems in any other OSes I've seen.


If you have the source to the Mac driver, you might be able to glean 
information from it that would help you write a FreeBSD driver.  Even 
better would be to have the hardware specs to your sound board.


Apple has some tech notes on porting drivers from other platforms to Mac 
OS X.  Maybe reading them could give you some insight as to how to port 
them in reverse.


One doesn't generally port device drivers between such different 
systems; it's more like doing a complete rewrite.


Mike
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SVG and dependence on Firefox2.x?

2009-09-13 Thread Kurt Buff
I notice that for both The Gimp and graphviz, and probably for others
as well, marking them or their dependencies as able to render SVG
invokes installation of FF 2.x.

This fails, as the port is marked as forbidden, and then the
installation of these graphics programs fails.

Not a huge deal, but any way to work around it?

Kurt
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Re: SVG and dependence on Firefox2.x?

2009-09-13 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:59:51 -0700, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 I notice that for both The Gimp and graphviz, and probably for others
 as well, marking them or their dependencies as able to render SVG
 invokes installation of FF 2.x.
 
 This fails, as the port is marked as forbidden, and then the
 installation of these graphics programs fails.
 
 Not a huge deal, but any way to work around it?

An explaination has recently been discussed on this list. See
the archives, and I'm sure you'll find it very fast. (Sadly,
I can't remember the thread name, but it involved Firefox,
as far as I remember.)



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Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: configuring X on the Presario with the 8200M driver

2009-09-13 Thread Jules Gilbert
Thanks, guys!

I intend to set aside some time late this week to try this.  I bought
one but have not been able to configure the X environment yet;  I
notice that PC-BSD comes up fine; I thought of doing that and copying
the file, but that's about a half day or more of effort that way...

Not good.

Anyway, a couple questions...

Is this likely to be compatible with FBSD 8.0?  Or no, and I will just use 7.2.

--jg


On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Kenneth kennet...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Moving this discussion to freebsd-x11.

 I have a Presario CQ60 with the NVIDIA 8200M G, and X is working!

 Here are the steps to get there.  Do everything as root:

 1) Update your ports to the most recent.  Follow the FreeBSD manual, section 
 4.5 Using the Ports Collection, nuke the contents of /usr/ports, and install 
 a new base using portsnap or cvsup.

 2) Install the nvidia-driver.
 # cd /usr/ports/x11-driver/nvidia-driver
 # make install clean  (I built with options FREEBSD_AGP checked, ACPI 
 checked, LINUX unchecked).

 3) You can install 2 more optional tools for configuring the nvidia card 
 settings.  I have not used them, but I installed them.
 # cd /usr/ports/x11-driver/nvidia-settings
 # make install clean
 # cd /usr/ports/x11-driver/nvidia-xconfig
 # make install clean

 4) I also installed the fbdev driver from X.Org.
 # cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev
 # make install clean

 5) Add the nvidia driver as a dynamically loaded kernel module.
 # cd /boot
 # vi loader.conf  (you better know how to use vi to edit)
 --- add the line nvidia_load=YES
 --- it is the only line I have in my loader.conf file

 6) Reboot the system
 # reboot

 7) If you want to see the version you just installed (your versions may be 
 newer than mine below)...
 # pkg_info | grep nvidia
 nvidia-driver-185.18.29
 nvidia-settings-190.32
 nvidia-xconfig-190.32
 # pkg_info | grep fbdev
 xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.0_2

 8) Generate your xorg.conf.new file.
 # cd /root
 # Xorg -configure

 9) Edit the xorg.conf.new file.
 # vi xorg.conf.new
 --- change the line    Driver nv
            to read    Driver nvidia

 10) Test the config file.
 # Xorg -config xorg.conf -retro
 --- you should get a grey screen and your mouse should work, especially if 
 your mouse worked when installing FreeBSD
 --- to kill the test, press CTRL-ALT-BKSP

 11) If everything worked, move and rename (drop the new extension) the config 
 file to the /etc directory
 # mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf

 12) Test again.  Log in as another user belonging to the wheel group (or 
 login as root).
 % startx
 --- you should get 3 green windows
 --- you can kill X by clicking on the large window on the left, and typing 
 exit





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Re: FreeBSD-8 Release Type?

2009-09-13 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Sep 13), Tom Smith said:
 Hey guys, we've googled and searched the FreeBSD website... cannot find
 the answer.  Will FreeBSD-8 be a 'normal' or 'extended' support release? 
 If it's normal, we'll probably just stick with 7.1, but if it is extended,
 we'll go with 8.

So far, no .0 releases have been marked extended.

http://security.freebsd.org/#sup

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Re: [OFF?] Mac OX Driver

2009-09-13 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sunday 13 September 2009 17:39:50 John Nielsen wrote:

 origins. Snow Leopard may be your friend.

 JN

What do you mean by that, John? What help can I get from Snow Leopard?


On Sunday 13 September 2009 18:23:33 Michael David Crawford wrote:
 One doesn't generally port device drivers between such different
 systems; it's more like doing a complete rewrite.

 Mike


Since my post, I have found out 2 things:

1) A good while back, a guy called Thomas Skibo was writing a driver for it 
It's pretty old and he has not touched it for a long time, but he was kind 
enough to send it to me. And I will try to make it work.

2) Downloaded the latest alsa drivers, which contains a driver specifically 
for my board (gina20). Maybe I can get clues from it. 

I would try OSS but only the comercial version has drivers for it.

Don't know if I'll be successful but I'll post if I am.

Many thanks to you both for replying !

-- 
Mario Lobo
http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br
FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE)
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Re: SVG and dependence on Firefox2.x?

2009-09-13 Thread Kurt Buff
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 15:15, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:59:51 -0700, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 I notice that for both The Gimp and graphviz, and probably for others
 as well, marking them or their dependencies as able to render SVG
 invokes installation of FF 2.x.

 This fails, as the port is marked as forbidden, and then the
 installation of these graphics programs fails.

 Not a huge deal, but any way to work around it?

 An explaination has recently been discussed on this list. See
 the archives, and I'm sure you'll find it very fast. (Sadly,
 I can't remember the thread name, but it involved Firefox,
 as far as I remember.)

Thanks - I took a look around and I see a thread from April -
Firefox3 and dependencies on firefox2,libxul,xulrunner - was that
what you were referring to?

Regardless, I'll try that when I have a few minutes.

On to more difficult problems.

Kurt
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Re: [OFF?] Mac OX Driver

2009-09-13 Thread John Nielsen

On Sep 13, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Mario Lobo ml...@digiart.art.br wrote:


On Sunday 13 September 2009 17:39:50 John Nielsen wrote:


origins. Snow Leopard may be your friend.

JN


What do you mean by that, John? What help can I get from Snow Leopard?


Your only stated OS requirement other than your soundcard working was  
64-bit support, and Snow Leopard provides that (even more than its  
predecessors). If the mac driver for your card still works in that  
version then it might fit the bill. Of course if you have other  
requirements or preferences then it may not, I was just throwing it  
out as an idea.

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wpi0 went away, though a reboot cures it.

2009-09-13 Thread Kurt Buff
Today, after leaving my Lenovo T61 on overnight to do some compiles, I
lost my wireless. I tried a few other things that what I've listed
below, but none of it worked. This is a dual boot machine - I also run
Windows XP, and don't have any issues with wireless on that OS. Any
clues would be appreciated.

# uname -a
FreeBSD grimsqueaker.pigfarm.org 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0:
Fri May  1 07:18:07 UTC 2009
r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

First, in /var/log/messages, I found the following:

Sep 13 15:09:23 grimsqueaker kernel: wpi0: device timeout
Sep 13 15:09:23 grimsqueaker kernel: wpi0: link state changed to DOWN
Sep 13 15:09:24 grimsqueaker kernel: wpi0: could not set power mode
Sep 13 15:09:24 grimsqueaker kernel: wpi0: device config failed

So I tried stopping and starting netif:

# /etc/rc.d/netif stop
Stopping network:wpa_supplicant not running? (check
/var/run/wpa_supplicant/wpi0.pid).
 lo0 em0 wpi0 fwe0 fwip0.
# /etc/rc.d/netif start
em0: no link .. giving up
Starting wpa_supplicant.
wpi0: no link .. giving up
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
em0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=19bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4
ether 00:1c:25:80:db:87
media: Ethernet autoselect
status: no carrier
wpi0: flags=8803UP,BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
ether 00:1f:3c:4d:e2:55
media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (autoselect)
status: no carrier
ssid  channel 11 (2462 Mhz 11g)
authmode WPA1+WPA2/802.11i privacy ON deftxkey UNDEF txpower 50
bmiss 7 scanvalid 60 protmode CTS roaming MANUAL


Then, I let the compile get as far as it could, and rebooted. While
rebooting, I noticed this on the console, and found these traces in
/var/log/messages:

Sep 13 16:05:44 grimsqueaker kernel: interrupt storm detected on
irq16:; throttling interrupt source
Sep 13 16:05:48 grimsqueaker last message repeated 4 times
Sep 13 16:05:49 grimsqueaker syslogd: exiting on signal 15
Sep 13 16:07:38 grimsqueaker syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
Sep 13 16:07:38 grimsqueaker kernel: interrupt storm detected on
irq16:; throttling interrupt source
Sep 13 16:07:38 grimsqueaker kernel: interrupt storm detected on
irq16:; throttling interrupt source
Sep 13 16:07:38 grimsqueaker kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for
system process `vnlru' to stop...done
Sep 13 16:07:38 grimsqueaker kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for
system process `bufdaemon' to stop...interrupt storm detected on
irq16:; throttling interrupt source
Sep 13 16:07:38 grimsqueaker kernel: done
Sep 13 16:07:38 grimsqueaker kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for
system process `syncer' to stop...interrupt storm detected on
irq16:; throttling interrupt source
Sep 13 16:07:38 grimsqueaker kernel:
Sep 13 16:07:38 grimsqueaker kernel: Syncing disks, vnodes
remaining...0 interrupt storm detected on irq16:; throttling
interrupt source
Sep 13 16:07:38 grimsqueaker kernel: 0 done
Sep 13 16:07:38 grimsqueaker kernel: All buffers synced.
Sep 13 16:07:38 grimsqueaker kernel: Uptime: 6h53m12s
Sep 13 16:07:38 grimsqueaker kernel: interrupt storm detected on
irq16:; throttling interrupt source


Thanks,

Kurt
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Dump/Restore?

2009-09-13 Thread Chris Maness
I level 0 dump of my server.  I lost a file that I need back.  Is it
possible to use restore like tar and explode it into a directory
instead of a pristine partition/mount?  Or even better, is it possible
to just extract a single file without exploding the whole tape dump?

Sorry if the question seems stupid.

Chris KQ6UP
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8.0-Beta installation problem -- Unable to find /dev/ad0s1b

2009-09-13 Thread Jin Guojun

Tried to install from both 8.0-BETA{3, 4}-i386-dvd1.iso on a Phenom 9600
system and having
some disk problems.

The system is running 6.x and/or 7.2 FreeBSD (on different drives).

Disconnected rest drives and only left 7.2 drive in.
ad0: 76319MB Seagate ST3802110A 3.AAJ at ata0-master UDMA100

Boot 8.0-BETA3-i386-dvd1.iso and sees no partition at all on the 7.2 disk.
Boot back to 7.2 and everything works fine, so system has no hardware
problem.

Boot 8.0-BETA3-i386-dvd1.iso again, still sees no partition, so
reconfigured partition with
autoconfigure - A

512M for / on /dev/ad0s1a
about 4G for swap on /dev/ad0s1b
about 2.2G on /var
512M for /tmp
rest spaces are for /usr

After commit, installation says --

Unable to find device node for /dev/ad0s1b in /dev
The Creation of file system will abort.
OK
[Press enter or space]

Hit CR and see some other errors, then back to installation menu.
Reboot the system, 7.2 is gone.

Download 8.0-BETA4-i386-dvd1.iso and burned another DVD, also did verify
between DVD and ISO for OK.
Run installation from Beta4 DVD, the same problem presents again.

If my memory is correct, either 8.0-Beta1 or one version earlier than it
was working on this machine.

Is anything changed that requires different installation procedure? or
is this a bug introduced recently?

-Jin


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Re: Dump/Restore?

2009-09-13 Thread Chris Maness
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Chris Maness ch...@chrismaness.com wrote:
 I level 0 dump of my server.  I lost a file that I need back.  Is it
 possible to use restore like tar and explode it into a directory
 instead of a pristine partition/mount?  Or even better, is it possible
 to just extract a single file without exploding the whole tape dump?

 Sorry if the question seems stupid.

 Chris KQ6UP


Sorry, I was reading the restore man from my mac, and it was not as
clear.  The restore does not seem to work from my mac (this is where
my backup dumps reside as I have two massive HDs).  I guess the mac
restore would only work with HFS+ and not UFS.  I guess the only way
would be to move the massive dump file back over to the FreeBSD
server.

Thanks,
Chris KQ6UP
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8.0-Beta installation problem -- Unable to find /dev/ad0s1b

2009-09-13 Thread Robert Huff

Jin Guojun writes:

  Tried to install from both 8.0-BETA{3, 4}-i386-dvd1.iso on a
  Phenom 9600 system and having some disk problems.
  
  After commit, installation says --
  
  Unable to find device node for /dev/ad0s1b in /dev
  The Creation of file system will abort.
  OK
  [Press enter or space]

Look at the archives of current@ within the last three weeks.
I (and I believe at least one other person) had what seems like the
same problem and found a work-around.


Robert Huff
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ath atheros 5424/2424 on the CQ60 Presario

2009-09-13 Thread Kenneth
Anyone been able to use the ath driver on an atheros 5424/2424?  I have a 
Compaq Presario CQ60 and can not get the wireless light to turn blue?




-Original Message-
From: Jules Gilbert jules.sto...@gmail.com
Sent: Sep 13, 2009 7:14 PM
To: Kenneth kennet...@earthlink.net
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-...@freebsd.org, ges...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: configuring X on the Presario with the 8200M driver

Thanks, guys!

I intend to set aside some time late this week to try this.  I bought
one but have not been able to configure the X environment yet;  I
notice that PC-BSD comes up fine; I thought of doing that and copying
the file, but that's about a half day or more of effort that way...

Not good.

Anyway, a couple questions...

Is this likely to be compatible with FBSD 8.0?  Or no, and I will just use 7.2.

--jg


On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Kenneth kennet...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Moving this discussion to freebsd-x11.

 I have a Presario CQ60 with the NVIDIA 8200M G, and X is working!

 Here are the steps to get there.  Do everything as root:

 1) Update your ports to the most recent.  Follow the FreeBSD manual, section 
 4.5 Using the Ports Collection, nuke the contents of /usr/ports, and install 
 a new base using portsnap or cvsup.

 2) Install the nvidia-driver.
 # cd /usr/ports/x11-driver/nvidia-driver
 # make install clean  (I built with options FREEBSD_AGP checked, ACPI 
 checked, LINUX unchecked).

 3) You can install 2 more optional tools for configuring the nvidia card 
 settings.  I have not used them, but I installed them.
 # cd /usr/ports/x11-driver/nvidia-settings
 # make install clean
 # cd /usr/ports/x11-driver/nvidia-xconfig
 # make install clean

 4) I also installed the fbdev driver from X.Org.
 # cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev
 # make install clean

 5) Add the nvidia driver as a dynamically loaded kernel module.
 # cd /boot
 # vi loader.conf  (you better know how to use vi to edit)
 --- add the line nvidia_load=YES
 --- it is the only line I have in my loader.conf file

 6) Reboot the system
 # reboot

 7) If you want to see the version you just installed (your versions may be 
 newer than mine below)...
 # pkg_info | grep nvidia
 nvidia-driver-185.18.29
 nvidia-settings-190.32
 nvidia-xconfig-190.32
 # pkg_info | grep fbdev
 xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.0_2

 8) Generate your xorg.conf.new file.
 # cd /root
 # Xorg -configure

 9) Edit the xorg.conf.new file.
 # vi xorg.conf.new
 --- change the line    Driver nv
            to read    Driver nvidia

 10) Test the config file.
 # Xorg -config xorg.conf -retro
 --- you should get a grey screen and your mouse should work, especially if 
 your mouse worked when installing FreeBSD
 --- to kill the test, press CTRL-ALT-BKSP

 11) If everything worked, move and rename (drop the new extension) the 
 config file to the /etc directory
 # mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf

 12) Test again.  Log in as another user belonging to the wheel group (or 
 login as root).
 % startx
 --- you should get 3 green windows
 --- you can kill X by clicking on the large window on the left, and typing 
 exit






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