Re: I have mail, but where?

2009-12-23 Thread Andrea Venturoli

Steve Randall ha scritto:

No mail for  andrea


Are there really two spaces in a row there? That's a vital clue.


Sure. I noticed that too, but though it might be normal.




For
some reason your 'USER' environment variable is set to ' andrea' (with a
leading space). Then .cshrc sets the 'mail' shell variable to
'(/var/mail/ andrea)'. That's now a list with two elements. Since the
first is a directory, csh counts the files in it, assuming they are
messages.

Since you don't have this problem with console logins, look for a
configuration error in your GUI login manager.


This is interesting...
Unfortunately (or luckily), today that message does not appear anymore, 
so I can't check.

If it does, I'll try your suggestion.



 bye  Thanks
av.
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Re: I have mail, but where?

2009-12-23 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:05:04 +0100 Andrea Venturoli wrote:
 Steve Randall ha scritto:

  No mail for  andrea
  Are there really two spaces in a row there? That's a vital clue.
 Sure. I noticed that too, but though it might be normal.
  For
  some reason your 'USER' environment variable is set to ' andrea' (with a
  leading space). Then .cshrc sets the 'mail' shell variable to
  '(/var/mail/ andrea)'. That's now a list with two elements. Since the
  first is a directory, csh counts the files in it, assuming they are
  messages.
 
  Since you don't have this problem with console logins, look for a
  configuration error in your GUI login manager.
 This is interesting...
 Unfortunately (or luckily), today that message does not appear
 anymore, so I can't check.

Which message are you talking about? Is it a message You have new
mail? The latter shows only once if there is a new mail. The system
doesn't prompt you when there is unread mail. So you should actually
read (and delete, save, etc.) your mail.

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Re: .Xdefaults file

2009-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:10:26PM +, Jamie Griffin wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 01:45:52PM -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote:
 
   I think case matters here, i.e. XTerm*, not Xterm or xterm.
  
  Exactly the problem.  Thank you!
 
 Curious, on my system (7.2) my ~/.Xdefaults uses lowercase 'xterm*...'
 values.

That would be the application name (the name by which xterm is invoked),
which also is legal - for the top-level.  It's all in the X manpage...

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FreeBSD 8 as VirtualBox guest: `ngctl list` shows nothing

2009-12-23 Thread Anh Ky Huynh
Hi all,

I have a VirtualBox guest which is running FreeBSD-8.0. I compiled the kernel 
for this guest with the options NETGRAPH in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC. I 
did that because I expected I would see each Ethernet interface as a netgraph 
node. But ngctl showed nothing

$ ngctl
There are 3 total nodes:
  Name: unnamed   Type: ksocket ID: 0008   Num hooks: 1
  Name: ng0 Type: iface   ID: 0006   Num hooks: 1
  Name: ngctl1633   Type: socket  ID: 0013   Num
  hooks: 0

(doesnot contain em0, em1,..)

This is different from the output for my real FreeBSD host

$ ngctl list
There are 5 total nodes:
  Name: re0 Type: ether   ID: 0001   Num hooks: 2
  Name: ngctl15142  Type: socket  ID: 0006   Num hooks: 0
  Name: vboxnetflt_re0  Type: vboxnetflt  ID: 0004   Num hooks: 2
  Name: vboxnet0Type: ether   ID: 0003   Num hooks: 0
  Name: wlan0   Type: ether   ID: 0002   Num
  hooks: 0

(contains re0, wlan0)

Why are they different?

Thank you for replies,

Regards,

-- 
Anh Ky Huynh

PS: Below the output of $ifconfig in the VirtualBox guest

$ ifconfig
em0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=9bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM
ether 08:00:27:d0:6e:ab
inet 192.168.1.17 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT full-duplex)
status: active
em1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=9bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM
ether 08:00:27:bf:a8:d1
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT full-duplex)
status: active
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384
options=3RXCSUM,TXCSUM
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 
epair0b: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
ether 02:c0:84:00:07:0b
inet 10.0.3.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.3.255
inet 10.0.3.3 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.3.255
ng0: flags=88d1UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 
1500

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Re: FreeBSD 8 as VirtualBox guest: `ngctl list` shows nothing

2009-12-23 Thread Yuri Pankov
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 05:18:28PM +0700, Anh Ky Huynh wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have a VirtualBox guest which is running FreeBSD-8.0. I compiled the kernel 
 for this guest with the options NETGRAPH in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC. I 
 did that because I expected I would see each Ethernet interface as a netgraph 
 node. But ngctl showed nothing

Try `kldload ng_ether`? And use your own config file, not GENERIC, if you need 
to make changes.

snip

 -- 
 Anh Ky Huynh


Yuri
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Re: FreeBSD 8 as VirtualBox guest: `ngctl list` shows nothing

2009-12-23 Thread Anh Ky Huynh
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:26:57 +0300
Yuri Pankov yuri.pan...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 05:18:28PM +0700, Anh Ky Huynh wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I have a VirtualBox guest which is running FreeBSD-8.0. I
  compiled the kernel for this guest with the options NETGRAPH
  in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC. I did that because I expected
  I would see each Ethernet interface as a netgraph node. But ngctl
  showed nothing
 
 Try `kldload ng_ether`? And use your own config file, not GENERIC,
 if you need to make changes.
 

Thank you very much, Yuri.

It works after I load that module :) And I am going to use my own config file.

Regards,

-- 
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Undefined symbol libintl_bindtextdomain

2009-12-23 Thread Robin Becker
I am trying to build (FreeBSD 8.0) a bleeding edge python (latest unladen 
swallow) with gcc44 and am getting mostly good results.



However, one of the standard modules is failing to load at runtime because of an 
undefined symbol


libintl_bindtextdomain


I looked in /user/local/lib/libintl.so and see that the symbol is there.

In the module of interest we don't seem to refer to libintl

$ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd` ldd _locale_failed.so
_locale_failed.so:
libutil.so.8 = /lib/libutil.so.8 (0x281ad000)
libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x281bc000)
libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x28091000)


however, there are references in the text of _locale_failed.so. Is there an 
implication that a library reference is missing during the build of the module?

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BUG: tag is disappear from packet after nat

2009-12-23 Thread Коньков Евгений
Hello, Freebsd-questions.

ipfw add 100 tag 1 all from any to any
ipfw add 101 nat 5 all from any to any
ipfw add 102 allow all from any to any tagged 1
ipfw add 103 deny log all from any to any

All packets are denied on 103 and is not allow at 102

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samba3.x - 3.0 won't compile, 3.2 and 3.3 can't be installed

2009-12-23 Thread Ewald Jenisch
Hi,

For quite some time now I'm trying to get samba 3.x installed on my
FreeBSD 7.2 System.

The symptoms in short:

o) 3.0 - doesn't compile

o) 3.2, 3.3 - can't be installed because of installation dependencies
to samba4-devel-4.0.0.a8_2, talloc-1.3.1 and tdb-1.1.5.

System:
FreeBSD test.at 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #8: Mon Dec 7 12:21:59 CET 2009 
r...@test.at:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64


Ports tree is updated and all ports installed up2date.

Now for the Samba-port(s): Depending on the version of Samba it either
can't be built at all or fails upon installation.

In detail:

1) Samba3.0:

Bails out during compilation with the following error:

Compiling locking/locking.c
locking/locking.c: In function 'unparse_share_modes':
locking/locking.c:701: error: invalid operands to binary -
The following command failed:
cc -I. -I/usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.37/source  -O -pipe 
-DLDAP_DEPRECATED -D_SAMBA_BUILD_=3 -I/usr/local/include  
-I/usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.37/source/iniparser/src -Iinclude 
-I./include  -I. -I. -I./lib/replace -I./lib/talloc -I./tdb/include 
-I./libaddns -I./librpc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I/usr/local/include 
-I/usr/local/include -DLDAP_DEPRECATED
-I/usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.37/source/lib -D_SAMBA_BUILD_=3 -fPIC 
-DPIC -c locking/locking.c -o locking/locking.o
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.37/source.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3.



2) Samba3.2:

$ make install
===  Installing for samba-3.2.15

===  samba-3.2.15 conflicts with installed package(s):
  samba4-devel-4.0.0.a8_2
  talloc-1.3.1
  tdb-1.1.5

  They install files into the same place.
  Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba32.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba32.
$

However samba4-devel is needed by (pkg_info -Rx)
evolution-mapi-0.28.1
gnome2-2.28.1
libmapi-0.8.2
so de-installing them is a no-go since I need gnome2


3) Samba 3.3:

Similar problems as with samba 3.2 above:

$ make install
===  Installing for samba-3.3.9

===  samba-3.3.9 conflicts with installed package(s):
  samba4-devel-4.0.0.a8_2
  talloc-1.3.1
  tdb-1.1.5

  They install files into the same place.
  Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba33.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba33.
$



So, here are my questions:

o) Anybody else seen this before?

o) Anything that could be done against this problem?

Thanks much in advance for any clue,
-ewald
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divert socket sniffer

2009-12-23 Thread EforeZZ
Hi guys,

Is there any tool to capture packets from a divert socket and save the
result in a pcap format?

Merry Christmas and best regards,
EforeZZ
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Re: samba3.x - 3.0 won't compile, 3.2 and 3.3 can't be installed

2009-12-23 Thread Michael Powell
Ewald Jenisch wrote:

 Hi,
 
 For quite some time now I'm trying to get samba 3.x installed on my
 FreeBSD 7.2 System.
 
 The symptoms in short:
 
 o) 3.0 - doesn't compile
 
 o) 3.2, 3.3 - can't be installed because of installation dependencies
 to samba4-devel-4.0.0.a8_2, talloc-1.3.1 and tdb-1.1.5.
 
 System:
 FreeBSD test.at 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #8: Mon Dec 7 12:21:59 CET
 2009 r...@test.at:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
 
 
 Ports tree is updated and all ports installed up2date.
 
 Now for the Samba-port(s): Depending on the version of Samba it either
 can't be built at all or fails upon installation.
 
 In detail:
 
 1) Samba3.0:
 
 Bails out during compilation with the following error:
 
 Compiling locking/locking.c
 locking/locking.c: In function 'unparse_share_modes':
 locking/locking.c:701: error: invalid operands to binary -
 The following command failed:
 cc -I. -I/usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.37/source  -O -pipe
 -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -D_SAMBA_BUILD_=3 -I/usr/local/include 
 -I/usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.37/source/iniparser/src -Iinclude
 -I./include  -I. -I. -I./lib/replace -I./lib/talloc -I./tdb/include
 -I./libaddns -I./librpc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I/usr/local/include
 -I/usr/local/include -DLDAP_DEPRECATED   
 -I/usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.37/source/lib -D_SAMBA_BUILD_=3
 -fPIC -DPIC -c locking/locking.c -o locking/locking.o *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.37/source.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3.
 
 
 
 2) Samba3.2:
 
 $ make install
 ===  Installing for samba-3.2.15
 
 ===  samba-3.2.15 conflicts with installed package(s):
   samba4-devel-4.0.0.a8_2
   talloc-1.3.1
   tdb-1.1.5
 
   They install files into the same place.
   Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba32.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba32.
 $
 
 However samba4-devel is needed by (pkg_info -Rx)
 evolution-mapi-0.28.1
 gnome2-2.28.1
 libmapi-0.8.2
 so de-installing them is a no-go since I need gnome2
 
 
 3) Samba 3.3:
 
 Similar problems as with samba 3.2 above:
 
 $ make install
 ===  Installing for samba-3.3.9
 
 ===  samba-3.3.9 conflicts with installed package(s):
   samba4-devel-4.0.0.a8_2
   talloc-1.3.1
   tdb-1.1.5
 
   They install files into the same place.
   Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba33.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba33.
 $
 
 
 
 So, here are my questions:
 
 o) Anybody else seen this before?

I still run 3.0.37, which has been portupgraded with each new rendition 
since 3.0 without any trouble. It began life on 7.2-Release and now runs on 
8.0-Release after system upgrade. But it is a server and has no desktop 
software, e.g., Gnome, to cause problems. Has always run fine and never had 
any trouble compiling.
 
 o) Anything that could be done against this problem?
 

This may seem dumb, but since you already have Samba4-devel ostensibly built 
and installed why not run that? Or, since you have these other requirements 
which you won't uninstall and if Samba4-devel doesn't run fix that so that 
it does. Either remove Gnome2 and it's MAPI stuff or fix Samba4-devel.

-Mike
 

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Which interface to firewall when using lacp.

2009-12-23 Thread Paul Halliday
If I have em0 and em1 comprising lagg0 which interface would I apply
PF inbound rules on?

Thanks.
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afp+pf

2009-12-23 Thread Dánielisz László
Hello,

It's been a while I struggeling how to deal with apf/netatalk passing trough my 
pf rules. If I disable pf everything is working great (but I still do want 
firewall on my server). I tried the following rule but it still don't lets me 
in:

pass in log on $int_if inet proto { tcp, udp } from $localnet to ($int_if) 
port=548  flags S/SA keep state

When I try a telnet on port 548 I got Operation timed out, in pflog I can see 
that my Mac tries to connect but I have no clue why it can't when the 
coresponding port is open, do you have any idea?

Thank you!
Laci




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Re: samba3.x - 3.0 won't compile, 3.2 and 3.3 can't be installed

2009-12-23 Thread Mel Flynn
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 04:51:24 Ewald Jenisch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 For quite some time now I'm trying to get samba 3.x installed on my
 FreeBSD 7.2 System.
 
 The symptoms in short:
 
 o) 3.0 - doesn't compile
 
 o) 3.2, 3.3 - can't be installed because of installation dependencies
 to samba4-devel-4.0.0.a8_2, talloc-1.3.1 and tdb-1.1.5.
 
 System:
 FreeBSD test.at 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #8: Mon Dec 7 12:21:59 CET
  2009 r...@test.at:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
 
 
 Ports tree is updated and all ports installed up2date.
 
 Now for the Samba-port(s): Depending on the version of Samba it either
 can't be built at all or fails upon installation.
 
 In detail:
 
 1) Samba3.0:
 
 Bails out during compilation with the following error:
 
 Compiling locking/locking.c
 locking/locking.c: In function 'unparse_share_modes':
 locking/locking.c:701: error: invalid operands to binary -
 The following command failed:
 cc -I. -I/usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.37/source  -O -pipe
  -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -D_SAMBA_BUILD_=3 -I/usr/local/include 
  -I/usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.37/source/iniparser/src -Iinclude
  -I./include  -I. -I. -I./lib/replace -I./lib/talloc -I./tdb/include
  -I./libaddns -I./librpc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I/usr/local/include
  -I/usr/local/include -DLDAP_DEPRECATED   
  -I/usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.37/source/lib -D_SAMBA_BUILD_=3
  -fPIC -DPIC -c locking/locking.c -o locking/locking.o *** Error code 1

This is most likely caused by tdb-1.1.5 and the fact that -I/usr/local/include 
is in order before -I./tdb/include. To confirm this:
1) cd `make -C /usr/ports/net/samba3 -V WRKSRC`/locking
2) Copy the above compilation line
3) Paste but remove the first -I/usr/local/include
4) Run the result

If it compiles cleanly, you need to fix it somewhere in the configure foo, but 
it's still no guarantee everything will work, especially when linking (though 
when linking removing the corresponding first -L/usr/local/lib may actually 
fix things too).

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Re: samba3.x - 3.0 won't compile, 3.2 and 3.3 can't be installed

2009-12-23 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Ewald Jenisch a...@jenisch.at writes:

 For quite some time now I'm trying to get samba 3.x installed on my
 FreeBSD 7.2 System.

 The symptoms in short:

 o) 3.0 - doesn't compile

 o) 3.2, 3.3 - can't be installed because of installation dependencies
 to samba4-devel-4.0.0.a8_2, talloc-1.3.1 and tdb-1.1.5.

3.0 should be listed as conflicting with 4.0 also.  

 However samba4-devel is needed by (pkg_info -Rx)
   evolution-mapi-0.28.1
   gnome2-2.28.1
   libmapi-0.8.2
 so de-installing them is a no-go since I need gnome2

Do you need mapi?  You can build gnome without it.  Otherwise, you'll
need to install 3.x to a non-standard prefix, or use 4.0.

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Packages vs Ports

2009-12-23 Thread Arthur Barlow
I've recently run into a new problem.  Pkg_version show that there is a new
version of Firefox 3.5.  However, when I try to recompile it, I get an error
that the system has run out of swap space, even though I allocated a 512M
slice for a machine with 256M RAM.  Anyway, when I used to recompile Firefox
it would take over 8 hours.  So I figured that I would just delete it and
download the new compiled version in a package.  But, the package is still
not updated yet, and it's been over a week.  How long does it usually take
for packages to catch up to ports?

P.S. I'm using FreeBSD 7.2 on an old Gateway Pentium III machine with a 40G
harddrive.
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Re: Packages vs Ports

2009-12-23 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Arthur Barlow arthurbar...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've recently run into a new problem.  Pkg_version show that there is a new
 version of Firefox 3.5.  However, when I try to recompile it, I get an
 error
 that the system has run out of swap space, even though I allocated a 512M
 slice for a machine with 256M RAM.  Anyway, when I used to recompile
 Firefox
 it would take over 8 hours.  So I figured that I would just delete it and
 download the new compiled version in a package.  But, the package is still
 not updated yet, and it's been over a week.  How long does it usually take
 for packages to catch up to ports?

 P.S. I'm using FreeBSD 7.2 on an old Gateway Pentium III machine with a 40G
 harddrive.


pkg's are created at the time of release eg 7.2.  They are never updated for
that release.  You can easily create your own with make package or
pkg_create but that requires a successful recompile



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Re: Packages vs Ports

2009-12-23 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Arthur Barlow arthurbar...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've recently run into a new problem.  Pkg_version show that there is a new
 version of Firefox 3.5.  However, when I try to recompile it, I get an
 error
 that the system has run out of swap space, even though I allocated a 512M
 slice for a machine with 256M RAM.  Anyway, when I used to recompile
 Firefox
 it would take over 8 hours.  So I figured that I would just delete it and
 download the new compiled version in a package.  But, the package is still
 not updated yet, and it's been over a week.  How long does it usually take
 for packages to catch up to ports?

 P.S. I'm using FreeBSD 7.2 on an old Gateway Pentium III machine with a 40G
 harddrive.


Also as a temp work around you could create a file backed swap.  Even
slower, but it would work.  You sys isn't really a compiling machine though.

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Re: afp+pf

2009-12-23 Thread Dánielisz László
I just tried with flags any but still not working.




From: Dánielisz László laszlo_daniel...@yahoo.com
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 5:01:41 PM
Subject: afp+pf

Hello,

It's been a while I struggeling how to deal with apf/netatalk passing trough my 
pf rules. If I disable pf everything is working great (but I still do want 
firewall on my server). I tried the following rule but it still don't lets me 
in:

pass in log on $int_if inet proto { tcp, udp } from $localnet to ($int_if) 
port=548  flags S/SA keep state

When I try a telnet on port 548 I got Operation timed out, in pflog I can see 
that my Mac tries to connect but I have no clue why it can't when the 
coresponding port is open, do you have any idea?

Thank you!
Laci




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Blacklisting a SourceForge mirror from ports?

2009-12-23 Thread Kirk Strauser

in ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk, the list of SourceForge mirrors is defined by:

.for mirror in heanet sunet iweb switch surfnet kent freefr \
voxel jaist osdn nchc transact softlayer \
internode biznetnetworks ufpr
#   garr dfn ovh (redirect as of 2009-Sep-02)
MASTER_SITE_SOURCEFORGE+= \
http://${mirror}.dl.sourceforge.net/project/%SUBDIR%/
.endfor
.endif

The problem is that the first mirror, heanet, is glacially slow every 
time I try to download from it. Transfers of 5-10KB/s aren't unheard 
of.  When I see that a large tarball is coming down from heanet, I'll 
routinely kill the transfer and manually download it.


In my /etc/make.conf, I have:

MASTER_SITE_SOURCEFORGE=http://sunet.dl.sourceforge.net/%SUBDIR%/

That *usually* works, but will often return a redirect, in which case 
the fetch goes back to using the list of mirrors, starting with heanet, 
which puts me back in the same predicament.


I could obviously edit bsd.sites.mk to remove that entry, but updates 
could wipe out my changes.  Worse, if the SF layout changes and 
bsd.sites.mk is updated to reflect the new structure, a locally edited 
version wouldn't have those fixes.


All that said, is there a better way to specify SourceForge mirrors? A 
blacklist would be ideal for this specific situation, but I'm open to ideas.


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Re: Packages vs Ports

2009-12-23 Thread Mel Flynn
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 08:13:21 Adam Vande More wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Arthur Barlow 
arthurbar...@gmail.comwrote:

  P.S. I'm using FreeBSD 7.2 on an old Gateway Pentium III machine with a
  40G harddrive.
 
 pkg's are created at the time of release eg 7.2.  They are never updated
  for that release.

Or set PACKAGESITE to:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/

See pkg_add(1) for details.
This will usually work for legacy stable branches, but you may actually need 
to update your system to a more recent stable version once in a while.
-- 
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Re: Blacklisting a SourceForge mirror from ports?

2009-12-23 Thread Jason

I don't know about blacklisting, however you may want to look at the port
called fastest_sites:

/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/fastest_sites]$ cat pkg-descr 
Find the fastest mirror for every mirror list in bsd.sites.mk.


Output is suitable for inclusion into make.conf.

WWW:
http://www.semicomplete.com/blog/geekery/freebsd-ports-master-sites-sorting.html

-jgh

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:38:01AM -0600, Kirk Strauser thus spake:

in ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk, the list of SourceForge mirrors is defined by:

.for mirror in heanet sunet iweb switch surfnet kent freefr \
voxel jaist osdn nchc transact softlayer \
internode biznetnetworks ufpr
#   garr dfn ovh (redirect as of 2009-Sep-02)
MASTER_SITE_SOURCEFORGE+= \
http://${mirror}.dl.sourceforge.net/project/%SUBDIR%/
.endfor
.endif

The problem is that the first mirror, heanet, is glacially slow every
time I try to download from it. Transfers of 5-10KB/s aren't unheard
of.  When I see that a large tarball is coming down from heanet, I'll
routinely kill the transfer and manually download it.

In my /etc/make.conf, I have:

MASTER_SITE_SOURCEFORGE=http://sunet.dl.sourceforge.net/%SUBDIR%/

That *usually* works, but will often return a redirect, in which case
the fetch goes back to using the list of mirrors, starting with heanet,
which puts me back in the same predicament.

I could obviously edit bsd.sites.mk to remove that entry, but updates
could wipe out my changes.  Worse, if the SF layout changes and
bsd.sites.mk is updated to reflect the new structure, a locally edited
version wouldn't have those fixes.

All that said, is there a better way to specify SourceForge mirrors? A
blacklist would be ideal for this specific situation, but I'm open to ideas.

--
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Re: Help building/running SDL/OpenGL code

2009-12-23 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 22 December 2009 06:36:19 Richard Mace wrote:

 So, it appears that there is some conflict between the mesa libraries
  (which I need to #include to build the code) and the NVIDIA-supplied
  libraries, or am I on the wrong track?
 
 Can anyone shed some light on this? I've spent quite some time on what
  first appeared to be a fairly trivial task and I am eager to see how this
  runs under FreeBSD.

If you want to run any OpenGL code with nvidia-driver you will need to 
reinstall the driver after every:
- kernel update
- update of x11-servers/xorg-server
- update of graphics/libGL*

There may be exceptions, but they're not worth figuring out or remembering.

In your case you may actually have a problem with math code in libm.so.3 vs 
libm.so.5, but I doubt it's the case as no OpenGL app that I encountered has 
one.
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Re: How to enable network manager in KDE?

2009-12-23 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/12/21 Yuri y...@rawbw.com:
 ill...@gmail.com wrote:

 Umm . . . yes?  But more seriously, FreeBSD is still
 very much a server operating system, expecting it to
 be exactly like Torvalds 2.6 OS or BiGa 0.7alpha right
 now is a bit much.


 Really? I was using FreeBSD as a desktop system for at least 10 years and it
 works quite well as a desktop. There are few defects, like the lack of
 network manager.
 If it was very much a server operating system, what are kde and gnome teams
 doing in your opinion? They seem to be completely unaware of that either.


Nonexclusive properties.  Statements tending to create a
false dichotomy.  Nevermind.

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Re: Which interface to firewall when using lacp.

2009-12-23 Thread Matthew Seaman

Paul Halliday wrote:

If I have em0 and em1 comprising lagg0 which interface would I apply
PF inbound rules on?


lagg0

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: afp+pf

2009-12-23 Thread Dánielisz László
I'm sending you my pflog captured whiled I try to connect, maybe somebody will 
figure out something:


# tcpdump -i rl0 -n port 548
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
listening on rl0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes

19:01:31.353245 IP 192.168.1.101.63912  192.168.1.1.548: Flags [S], seq 
721406618, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 3,nop,nop,TS val 206874734 
ecr 0,sackOK,eol], length 0
19:01:35.358575 IP 192.168.1.101.63912  192.168.1.1.548: Flags [S], seq 
721406618, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0





From: Dánielisz László laszlo_daniel...@yahoo.com
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 6:35:02 PM
Subject: Re: afp+pf

I just tried with flags any but still not working.




From: Dánielisz László laszlo_daniel...@yahoo.com
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 5:01:41 PM
Subject: afp+pf

Hello,

It's been a while I struggeling how to deal with apf/netatalk passing trough my 
pf rules. If I disable pf everything is working great (but I still do want 
firewall on my server). I tried the following rule but it still don't lets me 
in:

pass in log on $int_if inet proto { tcp, udp } from $localnet to ($int_if) 
port=548  flags S/SA keep state

When I try a telnet on port 548 I got Operation timed out, in pflog I can see 
that my Mac tries to connect but I have no clue why it can't when the 
coresponding port is open, do you have any idea?

Thank you!
Laci



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RE: afp+pf

2009-12-23 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
Hello Danielisz:
 
 I'm sending you my pflog captured whiled I try to connect, maybe
 somebody will figure out something:
 
 
 # tcpdump -i rl0 -n port 548
 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol
 decode
 listening on rl0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
 
 19:01:31.353245 IP 192.168.1.101.63912  192.168.1.1.548: Flags [S],
 seq 721406618, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 3,nop,nop,TS val
 206874734 ecr 0,sackOK,eol], length 0
 19:01:35.358575 IP 192.168.1.101.63912  192.168.1.1.548: Flags [S],
 seq 721406618, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0
 

Is your firewall acting as an Appletalk router?  I guess I'm not understanding 
why you are sending AFP to the firewall and not through the firewall from host 
to host.

When you log your block statement and tcpdump the pflog0 interface, are you 
seeing the blocks?

Regards,

Mike
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(no subject)

2009-12-23 Thread Modulok
List,

Is there a software method (not a microwave oven) to destroy a CD-R?
Something like:

dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/acd0?

Obviously the above doesn't work, but the idea is there.

Thanks!
-Modulok-
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Re: Packages vs Ports

2009-12-23 Thread Frank Staals

On 12/23/09 18:39, Mel Flynn wrote:

On Wednesday 23 December 2009 08:13:21 Adam Vande More wrote:
   
snip

Or set PACKAGESITE to:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/

See pkg_add(1) for details.
This will usually work for legacy stable branches, but you may actually need
to update your system to a more recent stable version once in a while.
   


Additionally take a look at the '-P' and '-PP' flags for portupgrade 
(And I guess the other port upgrade tools have similar options); this 
way it will use packages for upgrading your software instead of ports.



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whats in your /etc/security/ files ? (AUDIT subsystem)

2009-12-23 Thread Mike Tancsa
I am looking at getting more out of the FreeBSD AUDIT system and was 
wondering if anyone has feedback beyond what is in the handbook or 
links to other resources on this topic.


http://bsdmag.org/ had a nice intro article and 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/audit.html 
is actually pretty complete.  But I was looking for additional 
feedback from folks using it on their servers in production.


What do you find useful to log on large multi user systems ?  What 
about boxes with limited access to just administrators ? Log everything?


How do you manage your audit logs to ensure integrity ?  Do you run 
at a higher secure level and make the file flags uappnd ? Write them 
to an nfs mount on a separate and separately secured system ?


---Mike


Mike Tancsa,  tel +1 519 651 3400
Sentex Communications,m...@sentex.net
Providing Internet since 1994www.sentex.net
Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike

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Re: (no subject)

2009-12-23 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:05:40 -0700, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote:
 List,
 
 Is there a software method (not a microwave oven) to destroy a CD-R?
 Something like:
 
 dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/acd0?
 
 Obviously the above doesn't work, but the idea is there.

There are platform where it works. :-)

What do you mean by destroy - make it unreadable before
or after something has been burned onto the CD-R? You can
use /dev/random to fill the writing process for tools like
cdrdao or cdrecord, e. g.

dd if=/dev/random bs=1024 count=100 | cdrecord -tao -data -

Maybe you need to set specific options (dev=, speed=) for
your recorder.

However, after a successful recording, it's easier to destroy
the CD-R physically. If the session (and media) is already
closed, the same idea applies.


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Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: (no subject)

2009-12-23 Thread andrew clarke
On Wed 2009-12-23 12:05:40 UTC-0700, Modulok (modu...@gmail.com) wrote:

 Is there a software method (not a microwave oven) to destroy a CD-R?
 Something like:
 
 dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/acd0?
 
 Obviously the above doesn't work, but the idea is there.

I suspect most CD burners are designed to disallow overwriting of data
already written to a CD-R.  Otherwise the software method would
already exist and you'd see lots of people treating CD-Rs as
rewritable discs.  Which they aren't.

Personally I'd physically destroy the disc using whatever method you
prefer, eg. removing the label with steel wool, or disintegrate the
disc with a shredder.
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Re: divert socket sniffer

2009-12-23 Thread krad
2009/12/23 EforeZZ efor...@gmail.com

 Hi guys,

 Is there any tool to capture packets from a divert socket and save the
 result in a pcap format?

 Merry Christmas and best regards,
 EforeZZ
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if you are diverting them with pf just log them and tcpdump on pflog
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Re: freebsd-doc-en

2009-12-23 Thread ajtiM
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 01:42:32 you wrote:
 On 23/12/2009 2:03 π.μ., ajtiM wrote:
  My system: FreeBSD 8.0

 
 Something to do with the new Ghostscript version, most of the doc
 package builds are broken. I was pointed to this patch
 http://paste.lisp.org/display/92500 and it continued for a while but it
 errored out again with a different message (Bounding box not found).
 Still, you may wish to give it a try.
 

I didn't try a patch because there are a new version but now I have a new 
problem:

../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.png
Error: no BoundingBox found.
pnmtopng: bad magic number - not a ppm, pgm, or pbm file
Error: no BoundingBox found.
*** Error code 1
== Warning: BoundingBox not found!
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.

=== make failed for misc/freebsd-doc-en
=== Aborting update

Mitja

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FreeBSD boot invalid partition

2009-12-23 Thread Michel Le Cocq
I just dump a real host and try to restore it on a virtual host under
kvm.

When booting under KVM i see this :
Booting From hard Disk...
Invalid partition
Invalid partition
No /boot/loader

FreeBSD/i386/Boot
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel
boot :

If i enter : 
boot : 0:ad(0,d)

it's ok and then :
Manual Root Filesystem Specification :
Mountroot ufs:/dev/ad0s1d

and it's finaly boot.

[r...@vbsdio ~]# cat /etc/fstab
# Device Mountpoint FStypeOptionsDump Pass#
/dev/ad0s1b  none   swap  sw0 0
/dev/ad0s1d  /  ufs   rw1 1
/dev/ad0s1g  /local ufs   rw2 2
/dev/ad0s1e  /usr   ufs   rw2 2
/dev/ad0s1f  /var   ufs   rw2 2
/dev/acd0/cdrom cd9660ro,noauto 0 0
linproc /compat/linux/proc  linprocfs rw0 0
[r...@vbsdio ~]#

I need to change my master boot device or anything else.
But don't know what to do exactly.

Thanks.

--
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Re: Blacklisting a SourceForge mirror from ports?

2009-12-23 Thread Ruben de Groot

Would route add heanet.dl.sourceforge.net 127.0.0.1 help?

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:38:01AM -0600, Kirk Strauser typed:
 in ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk, the list of SourceForge mirrors is defined by:
 
 .for mirror in heanet sunet iweb switch surfnet kent freefr \
 voxel jaist osdn nchc transact softlayer \
 internode biznetnetworks ufpr
 #   garr dfn ovh (redirect as of 2009-Sep-02)
 MASTER_SITE_SOURCEFORGE+= \
 http://${mirror}.dl.sourceforge.net/project/%SUBDIR%/
 .endfor
 .endif
 
 The problem is that the first mirror, heanet, is glacially slow every 
 time I try to download from it. Transfers of 5-10KB/s aren't unheard 
 of.  When I see that a large tarball is coming down from heanet, I'll 
 routinely kill the transfer and manually download it.
 
 In my /etc/make.conf, I have:
 
 MASTER_SITE_SOURCEFORGE=http://sunet.dl.sourceforge.net/%SUBDIR%/
 
 That *usually* works, but will often return a redirect, in which case 
 the fetch goes back to using the list of mirrors, starting with heanet, 
 which puts me back in the same predicament.
 
 I could obviously edit bsd.sites.mk to remove that entry, but updates 
 could wipe out my changes.  Worse, if the SF layout changes and 
 bsd.sites.mk is updated to reflect the new structure, a locally edited 
 version wouldn't have those fixes.
 
 All that said, is there a better way to specify SourceForge mirrors? A 
 blacklist would be ideal for this specific situation, but I'm open to ideas.
 
 -- 
 Kirk Strauser
 
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Re: Help building/running SDL/OpenGL code

2009-12-23 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 04:42:28 Richard Mace wrote:
 Incidentally, if there is anyone out there with newer hardware who is
 interested in building the code I am talking about you can find it at:

 http://physics.ukzn.ac.za/~richm/courses/phys110/lennard-jones-3d.html

 You'll need to change the following lines in the Makefile to get it to
 successfully build under FreeBSD:
 ==
 CFLAGS = -Wall -Wextra -pthread -I/usr/local/include
 -I/usr/local/include/SDL -O3 -march=native

 LFLAGS = -Wall -L/usr/local/lib

 lennardjones : $(OBJS)
         $(CC) $(LFLAGS) -o lennardjones $(OBJS) -lSDL -lSDL_gfx -lGLU
 ==

 It would be interesting to hear feedback. (Basic controls are: up-arrow add
 heat to crystal; down-arrow cool down gas/crystal. There are a bunch of
 others -- look in main.c). You are welcome to do whatever you wish with my
 code.

Arrr. Same problem here at startup: segfault in glXGetFBConfigAttribSGIX. A 
simple test case is the following:

py...@nox:~% cat test.c
int main() {}
py...@nox:~% cc -o test test.c -L/usr/local/lib -lSDL -lGL
py...@nox:~% ./test
zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped)  ./test

Then I attempted to switch the arguments around...

py...@nox:~% cc -o test test.c -L/usr/local/lib -lGL -lSDL
py...@nox:~% ./test
py...@nox:~%

Voila! (Admittedly much to my surprise ;))

So then I changed the Makefile to use these libraries: -lGLU -lSDL -lSDL_gfx. 
Result: a perfectly working ./lennardjones. The only minor issue is that it 
presented me with exactly one option:

py...@nox:~/temp/lennard-jones-gas-3d% ./lennardjones
Current pixel depth: 32
Available Modes
0 =  3840 x 1200
Select your preferred video mode:

So apparently I prefer mode 0 :D. It run fine (and smooth) though.

It is clear something goes wrong during the runtime linking process, which 
this library order works around. The actual problem is still a mystery to me. 
It might be worthwhile to post a bugreport on the nvnews.net FreeBSD forum.

Best regards,

Pieter de Goeje

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Re: FreeBSD boot invalid partition

2009-12-23 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:51:39PM +0100, Michel Le Cocq typed:
 I just dump a real host and try to restore it on a virtual host under
 kvm.
 
 When booting under KVM i see this :
   Booting From hard Disk...
   Invalid partition
   Invalid partition
   No /boot/loader
   
   FreeBSD/i386/Boot
   Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel
   boot :
   
 If i enter : 
   boot : 0:ad(0,d)
 
 it's ok and then :
   Manual Root Filesystem Specification :
   Mountroot ufs:/dev/ad0s1d
   
 and it's finaly boot.
 
 [r...@vbsdio ~]# cat /etc/fstab
 # Device   Mountpoint FStypeOptionsDump Pass#
 /dev/ad0s1b  none swap  sw0 0
 /dev/ad0s1d/  ufs   rw1 1
 /dev/ad0s1g/local ufs   rw2 2
 /dev/ad0s1e/usr   ufs   rw2 2
 /dev/ad0s1f/var   ufs   rw2 2
 /dev/acd0  /cdrom cd9660ro,noauto 0 0
 linproc /compat/linux/proclinprocfs rw0 0
 [r...@vbsdio ~]#
 
 I need to change my master boot device or anything else.
 But don't know what to do exactly.

Not sure, but I think boot0 only boots a partitions. So after
you manually boot like above, go into bsdlabel and change ad0s1d
into ad0s1a. Do the same in fstab.
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Destroying a CD-R without a sledgehammer (Was: Re: (no subject))

2009-12-23 Thread Mel Flynn
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 10:05:40 Modulok wrote:
 List,
 
 Is there a software method (not a microwave oven) to destroy a CD-R?

No. A CD-R is only readable once written. Rewritable CD's (CD-RW) you can 
reformat using your favorite burn tool, which should provide a short and long 
blank method.
See for example the 'blank' and 'erase' command for burncd(8) for specifics.
-- 
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Re: freebsd-doc-en

2009-12-23 Thread Manolis Kiagias
On 23/12/2009 10:54 μ.μ., ajtiM wrote:
 On Wednesday 23 December 2009 01:42:32 you wrote:
   
 On 23/12/2009 2:03 π.μ., ajtiM wrote:
 
 My system: FreeBSD 8.0
   
   
 Something to do with the new Ghostscript version, most of the doc
 package builds are broken. I was pointed to this patch
 http://paste.lisp.org/display/92500 and it continued for a while but it
 errored out again with a different message (Bounding box not found).
 Still, you may wish to give it a try.

 
 I didn't try a patch because there are a new version but now I have a new 
 problem:

 ../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.png
 Error: no BoundingBox found.
 pnmtopng: bad magic number - not a ppm, pgm, or pbm file
 Error: no BoundingBox found.
 *** Error code 1
 == Warning: BoundingBox not found!
 1 error
 *** Error code 2
   

Same here. The patch resolves the first problem but not this.
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Re: FreeBSD boot invalid partition

2009-12-23 Thread Rolf G Nielsen

Michel Le Cocq wrote:

I just dump a real host and try to restore it on a virtual host under
kvm.

When booting under KVM i see this :
Booting From hard Disk...
Invalid partition
Invalid partition
No /boot/loader

FreeBSD/i386/Boot
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel
boot :

If i enter : 
 	boot : 0:ad(0,d)


it's ok and then :
Manual Root Filesystem Specification :
Mountroot ufs:/dev/ad0s1d

and it's finaly boot.

[r...@vbsdio ~]# cat /etc/fstab
# Device Mountpoint FStypeOptionsDump Pass#
/dev/ad0s1b  none   swap  sw0 0
/dev/ad0s1d  /  ufs   rw1 1
/dev/ad0s1g  /local ufs   rw2 2
/dev/ad0s1e  /usr   ufs   rw2 2
/dev/ad0s1f  /var   ufs   rw2 2
/dev/acd0/cdrom cd9660ro,noauto 0 0
linproc /compat/linux/proc  linprocfs rw0 0
[r...@vbsdio ~]#

I need to change my master boot device or anything else.
But don't know what to do exactly.

Thanks.

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Shouldn't the root fs be on the a partition?
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Re: (no subject)

2009-12-23 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:05:40PM -0700, Modulok typed:
 List,
 
 Is there a software method (not a microwave oven) to destroy a CD-R?

There's allways a software method ;)

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080220

Ruben

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Re: FreeBSD boot invalid partition

2009-12-23 Thread Michel Le Cocq
Ruben de Groot a écrit:
 On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:51:39PM +0100, Michel Le Cocq typed:
  I just dump a real host and try to restore it on a virtual host under
  kvm.
  
  When booting under KVM i see this :
  Booting From hard Disk...
  Invalid partition
  Invalid partition
  No /boot/loader
  
  FreeBSD/i386/Boot
  Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel
  boot :
  
  If i enter : 
  boot : 0:ad(0,d)
  
  it's ok and then :
  Manual Root Filesystem Specification :
  Mountroot ufs:/dev/ad0s1d
  
  and it's finaly boot.
  
  [r...@vbsdio ~]# cat /etc/fstab
  # Device Mountpoint FStypeOptionsDump Pass#
  /dev/ad0s1b  none   swap  sw0 0
  /dev/ad0s1d  /  ufs   rw1 1
  /dev/ad0s1g  /local ufs   rw2 2
  /dev/ad0s1e  /usr   ufs   rw2 2
  /dev/ad0s1f  /var   ufs   rw2 2
  /dev/acd0/cdrom cd9660ro,noauto 0 0
  linproc /compat/linux/proc  linprocfs rw0 0
  [r...@vbsdio ~]#
  
  I need to change my master boot device or anything else.
  But don't know what to do exactly.
 
 Not sure, but I think boot0 only boots a partitions. So after
 you manually boot like above, go into bsdlabel and change ad0s1d
 into ad0s1a. Do the same in fstab.

I boot under liveFS then :
bsdlabel -e ad0s1
 change 'd' label to 'a'.
mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt
edit /mnt/etc/fstab and change mount point of / to a.

It's now ok.
Thanks a lot.

--
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Destroying CDs (Re: (no subject))

2009-12-23 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Modulok modu...@gmail.com writes:

 Is there a software method (not a microwave oven) to destroy a CD-R?

Not that I would trust, even if it existed.

Heavy duty office shredders do the job for me.
A blowtorch is more fun, though (and I actually own one).

-- 
Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
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Re: Blacklisting a SourceForge mirror from ports?

2009-12-23 Thread J Sisson
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Ruben de Groot mai...@bzerk.org wrote:


 Would route add heanet.dl.sourceforge.net 127.0.0.1 help?


Or map heanet to a non-routable addy in /etc/hosts...
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What happened to /home?

2009-12-23 Thread Rem P Roberti
Today I booted my laptop and discovered that /home was gone.  Well...not
exactly..but for all intents and purposes.  The system isn't seeing it
although I can see it when I cd to /.  But if I try and cd to /home from
there the system tells me home:Not a directory.  What happened, and
what can I do about it?

Rem 
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Re: What happened to /home?

2009-12-23 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Thursday 24 December 2009 00:01:11 Rem P Roberti wrote:
 Today I booted my laptop and discovered that /home was gone.  Well...not
 exactly..but for all intents and purposes.  The system isn't seeing it
 although I can see it when I cd to /.  But if I try and cd to /home from
 there the system tells me home:Not a directory.  What happened, and
 what can I do about it?

 Rem

Usually /home is a symlink to /usr/home. Perhaps the symlink is busted? What 
it the output of `ls -ld /home' ? If you can still login as a regular user, 
what does `pwd -P' say just after you are logged in?

- Pieter



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Re: What happened to /home?

2009-12-23 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 03:01:11PM -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote:

 Today I booted my laptop and discovered that /home was gone.  Well...not
 exactly..but for all intents and purposes.  The system isn't seeing it
 although I can see it when I cd to /.  But if I try and cd to /home from
 there the system tells me home:Not a directory.  What happened, and
 what can I do about it?

Sounds like you may have written a file over it - an empty file maybe.
Or something like that.

jerry


 
 Rem 
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Re: What happened to /home?

2009-12-23 Thread Rem P Roberti
On 2009.12.24 00:21:47 +, Pieter de Goeje wrote:
 On Thursday 24 December 2009 00:01:11 Rem P Roberti wrote:
  Today I booted my laptop and discovered that /home was gone.  Well...not
  exactly..but for all intents and purposes.  The system isn't seeing it
  although I can see it when I cd to /.  But if I try and cd to /home from
  there the system tells me home:Not a directory.  What happened, and
  what can I do about it?
 
  Rem
 
 Usually /home is a symlink to /usr/home. Perhaps the symlink is busted? What 
 it the output of `ls -ld /home' ? If you can still login as a regular user, 
 what does `pwd -P' say just after you are logged in?
 

I can still login as regular user, and when I run 'pwd -P' the output is
/ and then it goes back to the prompt.  Output of 'ls -ld /home is:

lrwxr-xr-x  1 root wheel 8 Dec 18 12:08 /home - usr/home

Rem
 
 
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RE: Blacklisting a SourceForge mirror from ports?

2009-12-23 Thread Gary Gatten
Null routes work great, until the url fronts 29 VIP's located around the
world.  And of course if the IP's ever change, null routes need to be
updated

Does pf / ipfw allow url filtering, such that you could block this url
and not worry about the ip's?  Duh...  I think that's what previous post
was getting at with the hosts file...  Much easier / cleaner / better
than using pf!  So yea, adding heanet.dl.sourceforge.net 127.0.0.1 to
your hosts file would work perfect!






-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of J Sisson
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:43 PM
To: Ruben de Groot; Kirk Strauser; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Blacklisting a SourceForge mirror from ports?

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Ruben de Groot mai...@bzerk.org
wrote:


 Would route add heanet.dl.sourceforge.net 127.0.0.1 help?


Or map heanet to a non-routable addy in /etc/hosts...
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Re: FreeBSD 8.0 not detecting hot swap drive insertion

2009-12-23 Thread Rob
It should be noted that my raid controller driver (htprr) is exhibiting 
the same issue.  Before 8.0, both the ata and htprr drivers would 
recognize a HD insertion and the disks information would be scanned and 
device nodes created.  On 8.0, the best I can see is that the drive 
insertion is detected (the htprr driver prints a message about drive 
insertion/removal), but the disks are never scanned for drive 
information nor device nodes created.


Rob

P.S. My apologies if I posted this twice.  I didn't see it get to the list.

Rob wrote:
I don't have any /dev/ada* devices, so I assume I'm using the original 
ata driver.  I haven't done any kernel customization, and am running the 
distribution's kernel (upgraded with the freebsd-update tool).  Does the 
older driver no longer detect drive insertion?


Rob

Steve Polyack wrote:

Rob wrote:
I'm running a 10 hot-swap SATA disk ZFS pool and recently upgraded 
from 7.2 to 8.  Since I upgraded, freebsd isn't spinning up or 
recognizing a new drive that is inserted.  In freebsd 7.[0,2], I 
could remove a drive and insert a new one and freebsd would recognize 
it, spin it up, and create the device nodes.  None of that is 
happening in 8.0, and the only way I've found to get it to recognize 
the disk is to reboot the system.


I tried using atacontrol to force freebsd to reinit an ata channel, 
but that didn't have any effect.  Did something change in 8.0 that 
prevents this auto-detection?  Is there a way to re-enable it?


Are you using the original (7.x) ata(4) driver or the newer enhanced 
SATA drivers like ahci(4) or siis(4)?  If you're using the latter your 
devices will be labeled /dev/ada* instead of /dev/ad*.  If you are 
indeed using the newer enhanced SATA drivers, you will need to use 
camcontrol to reset and rescan the associated SATA channels.


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Re: What happened to /home?

2009-12-23 Thread Glen Barber
Hi

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote:
 On 2009.12.24 00:21:47 +, Pieter de Goeje wrote:
 On Thursday 24 December 2009 00:01:11 Rem P Roberti wrote:
  Today I booted my laptop and discovered that /home was gone.  Well...not
  exactly..but for all intents and purposes.  The system isn't seeing it
  although I can see it when I cd to /.  But if I try and cd to /home from
  there the system tells me home:Not a directory.  What happened, and
  what can I do about it?
 
  Rem

 Usually /home is a symlink to /usr/home. Perhaps the symlink is busted? What
 it the output of `ls -ld /home' ? If you can still login as a regular user,
 what does `pwd -P' say just after you are logged in?


 I can still login as regular user, and when I run 'pwd -P' the output is
 / and then it goes back to the prompt.  Output of 'ls -ld /home is:

 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root wheel 8 Dec 18 12:08 /home - usr/home


What does 'file /home' say?

-- 
Glen Barber
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Re: What happened to /home?

2009-12-23 Thread Mel Flynn
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 15:34:39 Glen Barber wrote:
 Hi
 
 On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote:
  On 2009.12.24 00:21:47 +, Pieter de Goeje wrote:
  On Thursday 24 December 2009 00:01:11 Rem P Roberti wrote:
   Today I booted my laptop and discovered that /home was gone.
Well...not exactly..but for all intents and purposes.  The system
   isn't seeing it although I can see it when I cd to /.  But if I try
   and cd to /home from there the system tells me home:Not a directory.
What happened, and what can I do about it?
  
   Rem
 
  Usually /home is a symlink to /usr/home. Perhaps the symlink is busted?
  What it the output of `ls -ld /home' ? If you can still login as a
  regular user, what does `pwd -P' say just after you are logged in?
 
  I can still login as regular user, and when I run 'pwd -P' the output is
  / and then it goes back to the prompt.  Output of 'ls -ld /home is:
 
  lrwxr-xr-x  1 root wheel 8 Dec 18 12:08 /home - usr/home
 
 What does 'file /home' say?

It is a symlink. What you really want to see is ls -l /home/. Note the 
trailing slash.
-- 
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Re: What happened to /home?

2009-12-23 Thread Warren Block

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, Rem P Roberti wrote:


Today I booted my laptop and discovered that /home was gone.  Well...not
exactly..but for all intents and purposes.  The system isn't seeing it
although I can see it when I cd to /.  But if I try and cd to /home from
there the system tells me home:Not a directory.  What happened, and
what can I do about it?


/home is (usually) a link to /usr/home.  If there was some problem that 
prevented /usr being mounted (power failure or crash with background 
fsck disabled), or you booted in single user mode, it would act that 
way.


Does df show /usr is mounted?

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: What happened to /home?

2009-12-23 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Mel Flynn
mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote:

 What does 'file /home' say?

 It is a symlink. What you really want to see is ls -l /home/. Note the
 trailing slash.

It _should_ be a symlink, which is what I am getting at.

Additionally, what does the output of 'mount' and 'cat /etc/fstab' ?

-- 
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Re: What happened to /home?

2009-12-23 Thread Rem P Roberti
On 2009.12.23 17:45:38 +, Warren Block wrote:
 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, Rem P Roberti wrote:
 
 Today I booted my laptop and discovered that /home was gone.  Well...not
 exactly..but for all intents and purposes.  The system isn't seeing it
 although I can see it when I cd to /.  But if I try and cd to /home from
 there the system tells me home:Not a directory.  What happened, and
 what can I do about it?
 
 /home is (usually) a link to /usr/home.  If there was some problem that 
 prevented /usr being mounted (power failure or crash with background 
 fsck disabled), or you booted in single user mode, it would act that 
 way.
 
 Does df show /usr is mounted?

Yep...it was mounted.  Something definitely got hosed.  I ran fsck on
/usr and there were a number of problems. Finally was able to delete the
troubled directory and reinstall.  Thankfully there was nothing of
importance in /home and I had everything backed up so that I could
re-populate the newly created /home.

Rem
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Re: What happened to /home?

2009-12-23 Thread Mel Flynn
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 15:46:57 Glen Barber wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Mel Flynn
 
 mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote:
  What does 'file /home' say?
 
  It is a symlink. What you really want to see is ls -l /home/. Note the
  trailing slash.
 
 It _should_ be a symlink, which is what I am getting at.

No, it _is_ a symlink. ls says so:

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote:
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root wheel 8 Dec 18 12:08 /home - usr/home
  ^ ^^^

The only thing file is gonna tell you that the symlink might be broken.

# ls -l
total 1
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  8 Dec 23 16:50 home - usr/home
drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  3 Dec 23 16:50 usr

# ls -ld home/.
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  2 Dec 23 16:50 home/.

# file home
home: symbolic link to `usr/home'

# chmod 000 usr/home

# ls -ld home/.
d-  2 root  wheel  2 Dec 23 16:50 home/.

# file home
home: symbolic link to `usr/home'

As you can see, file don't tell you much, while using ls -ld on the target 
will immediately show the problem.
-- 
Mel
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Re: whats in your /etc/security/ files ? (AUDIT subsystem)

2009-12-23 Thread Fbsd1

Mike Tancsa wrote:
I am looking at getting more out of the FreeBSD AUDIT system and was 
wondering if anyone has feedback beyond what is in the handbook or links 
to other resources on this topic.


http://bsdmag.org/ had a nice intro article and 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/audit.html is 
actually pretty complete.  But I was looking for additional feedback 
from folks using it on their servers in production.


What do you find useful to log on large multi user systems ?  What about 
boxes with limited access to just administrators ? Log everything?


How do you manage your audit logs to ensure integrity ?  Do you run at a 
higher secure level and make the file flags uappnd ? Write them to an 
nfs mount on a separate and separately secured system ?


---Mike


Mike Tancsa,  tel +1 519 651 3400
Sentex Communications,m...@sentex.net
Providing Internet since 1994www.sentex.net
Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike

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My experience is its “OVERKILL”. Better to invest your time in tuning 
your firewall rules.



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Re: Blacklisting a SourceForge mirror from ports?

2009-12-23 Thread RW
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:38:01 -0600
Kirk Strauser k...@strauser.com wrote:


 In my /etc/make.conf, I have:
 
 MASTER_SITE_SOURCEFORGE=http://sunet.dl.sourceforge.net/%SUBDIR%/

I set MASTER_SORT_REGEX instead

 That *usually* works, but will often return a redirect, in which case 
 the fetch goes back to using the list of mirrors, starting with
 heanet, which puts me back in the same predicament.

Don't the default settings prevent fetch following redirects. 


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Re: Blacklisting a SourceForge mirror from ports?

2009-12-23 Thread RW
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 03:32:20 +
RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:38:01 -0600
 Kirk Strauser k...@strauser.com wrote:

  MASTER_SITE_SOURCEFORGE=http://sunet.dl.sourceforge.net/%SUBDIR%/

  That *usually* works, but will often return a redirect, in which
  case the fetch goes back to using the list of mirrors, starting with
  heanet, which puts me back in the same predicament.
 
 Don't the default settings prevent fetch following redirects. 

If you mean that fetch refuses the redirect and the ports system moves
on to the next entry then you can simply paste the entire sourceforge
list with heanet removed.
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Supressing dd output

2009-12-23 Thread Rolf Nielsen

Hello everyone,

I'm wondering if there's a way to supress the summary output from dd. 
I'm working on a backup script, that encrypts the backups, and after 
encrypting overwrites the unencrypted file several times using dd. I've 
tried to redirect the output with 21  /dev/null but it doesn't work. 
Since I run the script from the daily_local variable in periodic.conf, 
and the script backs up 11 filsystems (ZFS) to separate files, the mail 
from periodic daily gets ridiculously long, and most of it being dd 
summaries.


I guess I could hack the source code of dd, but I'd prefer not to have 
to. Has anyone got any ideas?


Thanks in advance and Merry Christmas to all of you,

Rolf Nielsen
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Re: Supressing dd output

2009-12-23 Thread Noel Jones
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Rolf Nielsen
listrea...@lazlarlyricon.com wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 I'm wondering if there's a way to supress the summary output from dd. I'm
 working on a backup script, that encrypts the backups, and after encrypting
 overwrites the unencrypted file several times using dd. I've tried to
 redirect the output with 21  /dev/null but it doesn't work. Since I run
 the script from the daily_local variable in periodic.conf, and the script
 backs up 11 filsystems (ZFS) to separate files, the mail from periodic daily
 gets ridiculously long, and most of it being dd summaries.

 I guess I could hack the source code of dd, but I'd prefer not to have to.
 Has anyone got any ideas?

 Thanks in advance and Merry Christmas to all of you,

 Rolf Nielsen


Order matters.

dd ...   /dev/null 21


  -- Noel Jones
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Re: Help building/running SDL/OpenGL code

2009-12-23 Thread Richard Mace
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 22:54:07 Pieter de Goeje wrote:
 On Wednesday 23 December 2009 04:42:28 Richard Mace wrote:
  Incidentally, if there is anyone out there with newer hardware who is
  interested in building the code I am talking about you can find it at:
 
  http://physics.ukzn.ac.za/~richm/courses/phys110/lennard-jones-3d.html
 
  You'll need to change the following lines in the Makefile to get it to
  successfully build under FreeBSD:
  ==
  CFLAGS = -Wall -Wextra -pthread -I/usr/local/include
  -I/usr/local/include/SDL -O3 -march=native
 
  LFLAGS = -Wall -L/usr/local/lib
 
  lennardjones : $(OBJS)
  $(CC) $(LFLAGS) -o lennardjones $(OBJS) -lSDL -lSDL_gfx -lGLU
  ==
 
  It would be interesting to hear feedback. (Basic controls are: up-arrow
  add heat to crystal; down-arrow cool down gas/crystal. There are a bunch
  of others -- look in main.c). You are welcome to do whatever you wish
  with my code.
 
 Arrr. Same problem here at startup: segfault in glXGetFBConfigAttribSGIX. A
 simple test case is the following:
 
 py...@nox:~% cat test.c
 int main() {}
 py...@nox:~% cc -o test test.c -L/usr/local/lib -lSDL -lGL
 py...@nox:~% ./test
 zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped)  ./test
 
 Then I attempted to switch the arguments around...
 
 py...@nox:~% cc -o test test.c -L/usr/local/lib -lGL -lSDL
 py...@nox:~% ./test
 py...@nox:~%
 
 Voila! (Admittedly much to my surprise ;))
 
 So then I changed the Makefile to use these libraries: -lGLU -lSDL
  -lSDL_gfx. Result: a perfectly working ./lennardjones. The only minor
  issue is that it presented me with exactly one option:
 
 py...@nox:~/temp/lennard-jones-gas-3d% ./lennardjones
 Current pixel depth: 32
 Available Modes
 0 =  3840 x 1200
 Select your preferred video mode:
 
 So apparently I prefer mode 0 :D. It run fine (and smooth) though.
 
 It is clear something goes wrong during the runtime linking process, which
 this library order works around. The actual problem is still a mystery to
  me. It might be worthwhile to post a bugreport on the nvnews.net FreeBSD
  forum.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Pieter de Goeje
 

Pieter, many, many thanks for taking the time to test and diagnose this. Your 
solution works perfectly: ensure that libGLU PRECEDES all the SDL libraries in 
the link line of the Makefile. Wow! I never would have thought

About your allowable modes being only 3840 x 1200:  I had the same issue at 
work (Linux) where I run dual monitors (2 x 1680 x 1050). Just create an 
NVIDIA metamode in your xorg.conf that blanks one monitor (I do not recall the 
exact syntax here, but I think you need to use NULL for the one monitor). It 
is also useful for some games ;-) Then you can use one screen and avoid 
staring at the crack between your monitors during simulations.

Again, many thanks. This for me is proof that I can continue to do some 
scientific programming (with rendering in 3D) under FreeBSD .

-Richard
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Re: Supressing dd output

2009-12-23 Thread Rolf G Nielsen

Noel Jones wrote:

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Rolf Nielsen
listrea...@lazlarlyricon.com wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm wondering if there's a way to supress the summary output from dd. I'm
working on a backup script, that encrypts the backups, and after encrypting
overwrites the unencrypted file several times using dd. I've tried to
redirect the output with 21  /dev/null but it doesn't work. Since I run
the script from the daily_local variable in periodic.conf, and the script
backs up 11 filsystems (ZFS) to separate files, the mail from periodic daily
gets ridiculously long, and most of it being dd summaries.

I guess I could hack the source code of dd, but I'd prefer not to have to.
Has anyone got any ideas?

Thanks in advance and Merry Christmas to all of you,

Rolf Nielsen



Order matters.

dd ...   /dev/null 21


  -- Noel Jones


Thanks Noel. I've never considered using that order before. Probably 
because first time I saw that construct and had it explained to me, it 
was ordered the way I had it, and I very rarely have any use for it, so 
I haven't really noticed that my way was wrong; I usually only redirect 
stdout if anything at all. Anyway, now it works like a charm. Thanks. :)


Rolf Nielsen
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epair0a routes to lo0?

2009-12-23 Thread Anh Ky Huynh
Hi all,

I created epair devices by using ifconfig

$ ifconfig epair1 create
$ ifconfig epair1a inet 10.0.4.3 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.4.255
$ ifconfig epair1a inet 10.0.4.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.4.255 alias

Thing makes me confused is that the routing table

$ netstat -rantfinet
DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif Expire
default192.168.0.1UGS 00em0
10.0.4.0/24link#6 U   00 epair1
10.0.4.1   link#6 UHS 00lo0
10.0.4.3   link#6 UHS 00lo0
127.0.0.1  link#5 UH  00lo0
snip

Why are 10.0.4.1 and 10.0.4.3 routed to lo0? (I expected that it would be em0).

Thank you for your replies,

Regards,

-- 
Anh Ky Huynh
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Re: What happened to /home?

2009-12-23 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:40:13 -0800, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote:
On 2009.12.24 00:21:47 +, Pieter de Goeje wrote:
On Thursday 24 December 2009 00:01:11 Rem P Roberti wrote:
 Today I booted my laptop and discovered that /home was gone.
 Well...not exactly..but for all intents and purposes.  The system
 isn't seeing it although I can see it when I cd to /.  But if I try
 and cd to /home from there the system tells me home:Not a
 directory.  What happened, and what can I do about it?

 Usually /home is a symlink to /usr/home. Perhaps the symlink is
 busted? What it the output of `ls -ld /home' ? If you can still login
 as a regular user, what does `pwd -P' say just after you are logged
 in?

 I can still login as regular user, and when I run 'pwd -P' the output is
 / and then it goes back to the prompt.  Output of 'ls -ld /home is:

 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root wheel 8 Dec 18 12:08 /home - usr/home

That's your problem right there.  /home does not point to the absolute
path of '/usr/home' but to a *relative* path starting at whatever
happens to be your current directory when you access '/home'.

Try replacing your current /home symlink with a link to /usr/home
instead:

# cd /
# rm -f home
# ln -s /usr/home home

Then the symlink should start working in a more useful manner.

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Re: What happened to /home?

2009-12-23 Thread Charlie Kester

On Wed 23 Dec 2009 at 22:33:20 PST Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:40:13 -0800, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote:

On 2009.12.24 00:21:47 +, Pieter de Goeje wrote:

On Thursday 24 December 2009 00:01:11 Rem P Roberti wrote:

Today I booted my laptop and discovered that /home was gone.
Well...not exactly..but for all intents and purposes.  The system
isn't seeing it although I can see it when I cd to /.  But if I try
and cd to /home from there the system tells me home:Not a
directory.  What happened, and what can I do about it?


Usually /home is a symlink to /usr/home. Perhaps the symlink is
busted? What it the output of `ls -ld /home' ? If you can still login
as a regular user, what does `pwd -P' say just after you are logged
in?


I can still login as regular user, and when I run 'pwd -P' the output is
/ and then it goes back to the prompt.  Output of 'ls -ld /home is:

lrwxr-xr-x  1 root wheel 8 Dec 18 12:08 /home - usr/home


That's your problem right there.  /home does not point to the absolute
path of '/usr/home' but to a *relative* path starting at whatever
happens to be your current directory when you access '/home'.


Are you sure about that?

On my FreeBSD 8 system, I just tried this:

   cd /etc
   ls /home/ckester

and the result was a listing of my home directory, not some directory
under /etc.

Yet the result of ls -ld /home on my system is the same as above.

The symlink named home is found in the root directory / and the
relative path usr/home is apparently relative to that root directory,
not the current directory.

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Re: What happened to /home?

2009-12-23 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 08:33:20AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:40:13 -0800, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 On 2009.12.24 00:21:47 +, Pieter de Goeje wrote:
 On Thursday 24 December 2009 00:01:11 Rem P Roberti wrote:
  Today I booted my laptop and discovered that /home was gone.
  Well...not exactly..but for all intents and purposes.  The system
  isn't seeing it although I can see it when I cd to /.  But if I try
  and cd to /home from there the system tells me home:Not a
  directory.  What happened, and what can I do about it?
 
  Usually /home is a symlink to /usr/home. Perhaps the symlink is
  busted? What it the output of `ls -ld /home' ? If you can still login
  as a regular user, what does `pwd -P' say just after you are logged
  in?
 
  I can still login as regular user, and when I run 'pwd -P' the output is
  / and then it goes back to the prompt.  Output of 'ls -ld /home is:
 
  lrwxr-xr-x  1 root wheel 8 Dec 18 12:08 /home - usr/home
 
 That's your problem right there.  /home does not point to the absolute
 path of '/usr/home' but to a *relative* path starting at whatever
 happens to be your current directory when you access '/home'.

Wrong. Relative paths in symlinks start at the symlink is in, not the
current directory. I.e. that the symlink is relative should not be a
problem.  (Under AmigaOS relative symlinks worked as you describe, which
made them a PITA and fairly useless, but under Unix relative symlinks have a
more sane behaviour.)



-- 
Insert your favourite quote here.
Erik Trulsson
ertr1...@student.uu.se
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