Re: Installing FreeBSD on a USB stick.

2010-02-15 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:

 http://www.a1poweruser.com/usb.info.htm


Why does Websence think your site contains Potentially Unwanted Software?

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Why lsof shows the file as open and fstat doesn't ?

2010-02-15 Thread Yuri
I am looking at one file which is actually a unix socket: 
/tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6.
lsof | grep dbus-iQmkLjgxD6 shows that it's open by a particular 
process many times:
ibus-daem 48407   yuri4uunix 0xc966019c0t0  
/tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
ibus-daem 48407   yuri5uunix 0xc95690000t0  
/tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
ibus-daem 48407   yuri6uunix 0xc955e9a80t0  
/tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
ibus-daem 48407   yuri7uunix 0xc8d250000t0  
/tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
ibus-daem 48407   yuri8uunix 0xc9596ce00t0  
/tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
ibus-daem 48407   yuri9uunix 0xc8f9b19c0t0  
/tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
ibus-daem 48407   yuri   10uunix 0xc916619c0t0  
/tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
ibus-daem 48407   yuri   11uunix 0xc95473380t0  
/tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
ibus-daem 48407   yuri   12uunix 0xc95896700t0  
/tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6


But when I run fstat /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6 it doesn't return anything, 
like this file isn't open at all.


Why there is such discrepancy?

Yuri
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Re: NTOS: Timer fired even though it was canceled

2010-02-15 Thread Eitan Adler
 Can you explain what you did in detail and it have something to do with 
 ndis(4)?
 Did you ever used ndisgen(8)?

Last June I used ndisgen and my computer has been running fine since
then. When I saw the NTOS warning I emailed this list. When I got your
reply I removed if_bwi_ndis_load from /boot/loader.conf and the
warning went away. When I readded to /boot/loader.conf the warning was
*still* gone. Because this was the only change I made I assume that it
was an intermittent problem.
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Cleaning up after attack?

2010-02-15 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum
Hi. I have an up-to-date FreeBSD 7.2 box that has been compromised. Someone 
aparently got in to an account with certain admin priveleges and has been 
sending spam.

I disabled the account, shut off my MTA and used pf to block all traffic to 
port 25 out for good measure.

How do i analyse what might have happened and what has been installed?

Andis there anything to do other than rebuild the entire system to ensure that 
its clean?

Thanks.

Jen


  
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Re: Cleaning up after attack?

2010-02-15 Thread Erik Norgaard

On 15/02/10 11:13, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:

Hi. I have an up-to-date FreeBSD 7.2 box that has been compromised. Someone 
aparently got in to an account with certain admin priveleges and has been
sending spam.

I disabled the account, shut off my MTA and used pf to block all traffic to 
port 25 out for good measure.

How do i analyse what might have happened and what has been installed?

Andis there anything to do other than rebuild the entire system to ensure that 
its clean?


If the attacker had privileged access then he may have got a copy of 
master.password, you should assume all accounts compromised, if user 
data are shared with other servers, then all should be considered 
compromised.


Blocking certain access say port 25 is insufficient. You should get it 
off the net until you are sure the system is clean as the attacker may 
have installed some daemon that communicates on a non-standard port.


If you had things like tripwire installed you could get an idea of files 
modified. Otherwise you can use find to create a list of files modified 
since the attack, but this is only useful insofar as the attacker did 
not bother to reset access or modification times.


It may be faster to rebuild everything rather than trying to figure out 
what may have been modified, if your main concern is to get the system 
back up rather than investigate the incident.


BR, Erik
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Re: Question about Freebsd 7.2 and Zend framework

2010-02-15 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:29:04 +0100
Ivan Voras ivo...@freebsd.org articulated:

 Samuel Martín Moro wrote:
  It's not officialy supported, but it still works.
  You have to link some libraries to give them their freebsd 6.2
  names.
  
  I had to do it for the servers we sell at work.
  It works perfectly.  
 
 I'm glad it works, and it is not surprising. It would be easier for a 
 company to support FreeBSD with its stable ABI across minor releases 
 (and a great deal of userland stability even across major ones) than 
 support the myriad of Linuxes out there.

Hacking the system to make it work is potentially dangerous. While it
may work for awhile, there is no guarantee that it will continue to do
so. I believe that finding or developing an alternative solution would
be a better course of action.

As far as supporting FreeBSD as opposed to the myriad of Linuxes, I
believe what Willie Sutton stated is apropos: Go where the money is ..
and go there often. After all, they are in business to make money,
which allows them to pay their employees, which means they can support
their families, which in turn means I do not have to pay taxes to
support them. Personally, I find that acceptable.

-- 
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Re: simple (and stupid) shell scripting question

2010-02-15 Thread Eray Aslan
On 15.02.2010 09:21, Nerius Landys wrote:
 But in the case where you're assigning the output of ls directly to a
 variable like this:
 
 FOO=`ls`
 
 vs
 
 FOO=`ls`
 
 the text assigned to FOO is the same, right?

Apparently, it is:

sh-4.0$ touch x *
sh-4.0$ FOO=`ls`;echo $FOO|od
000 020170 005052
004
sh-4.0$ BAR=`ls`; echo $BAR|od
000 020170 005052
004

There might be some corner cases tho.  Test before puting into
production (newlines/control chars in file names, different versions of
shell, different set/shopt options, changes in IFS etc).

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Re: Installing FreeBSD on a USB stick.

2010-02-15 Thread Fbsd1

Christer Solskogen wrote:

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:


http://www.a1poweruser.com/usb.info.htm



Why does Websence think your site contains Potentially Unwanted Software?



Have no idea what you are talking about. Since your using their software 
maybe you should be asking them this question.

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Re : Why Linux Firefox doesn't play flash movies?

2010-02-15 Thread Alexandre L.
I can play Youtube movies using Firefox 3.5.x or Firefox 3.6, and 
linux-f10-flashplugin10 10.0r45.

I followed the tutorial : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5786

I'm pretty sure this will work for you.

---
Alexandre

--- En date de : Lun 15.2.10, Yuri y...@rawbw..com a écrit :

 De: Yuri y...@rawbw.com
 Objet: Why Linux Firefox doesn't play flash movies?
 À: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Lundi 15 Février 2010, 2h58
 In order to enable Flash I installed
 linux-firefox-devel-3.5.7 and
 linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r45.
 They together pulled whole lot of other ports, see list
 below.
 
 But flash still doesn't work: youtube.com shows black
 windows instead.
 I tried windows firefox under wine, but it has a lot of
 side-effects, since wine is perpetually buggy.
 
 Anybody is able to play flash movies?
 
 Thanks,
 Yuri
 
 
 List of all linux ports installed:
 linux-dri-7.4_1     Mesa-based DRI
 libraries, drivers and binaries (Linux Ubunt
 linux-f10-alsa-lib-1.0.21_1 The Advanced Linux Sound
 Architecture libraries (Linux Fedo
 linux-f10-atk-1.24.0 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386
 binary (Linux Fedora 10)
 linux-f10-cairo-1.8.0 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux
 Fedora 10)
 linux-f10-curl-7.19.6 The command line tool for
 transferring files with URL synta
 linux-f10-cyrus-sasl2-2.1.22 RFC  SASL (Simple
 Authentication and Security Layer) (L
 linux-f10-dbus-glib-0.76 GLib bindings for D-Bus (Linux
 Fedora 10)
 linux-f10-dbus-libs-1.2.4 Libraries for accessing D-BUS
 (Linux Fedora 10)
 linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat
 XML-parsing library (Linux
 linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r45 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI
 Plugin
 linux-f10-fontconfig-2..6.0 An XML-based font configuration
 API for X Windows (Linux Fe
 linux-f10-gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0 Image loading library for GTK+
 (Linux Fedora 10)
 linux-f10-gtk2-2.14.7 GTK+ library, version 2.X (Linux
 Fedora 10)
 linux-f10-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5 A high-color icon theme
 shell from the FreeDesktop project
 linux-f10-jpeg-6b   RPM of the JPEG lib
 (Linux Fedora 10)
 linux-f10-libsigc++20-2.2.2 Callback Framework for C++
 (Linux Fedora 10)
 linux-f10-libssh2-0.18 The library implementing the SSH2
 protocol (Linux Fedora 10
 linux-f10-libxml2-2.7.3_2 Library providing XML and HTML
 support (Linux Fedora 10)
 linux-f10-nspr-4.7.6 Netscape Portable Runtime (Linux
 Fedora 10)
 linux-f10-nss-3.12.2.0 Network Security Services (Linux
 Fedora 10)
 linux-f10-openldap-2.4.12_1 Lightweight Directory Access
 Protocol libraries (Linux Fedo
 linux-f10-openssl-0.9.8g The OpenSSL toolkit (Linux Fedora
 10)
 linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 The pango library (Linux Fedora 10)
 linux-f10-png-1.2.37 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 10)
 linux-f10-sqlite3-3.5.9_1 The library that implements an
 embeddable SQL database engi
 linux-f10-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary
 (Linux Fedora 10)
 linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10)
 linux-firefox-devel-3.5.7 Web browser based on the browser
 portion of Mozilla
 linux-nvu-1.0_1     A complete Web
 Authoring System
 linux_base-f10-10_2 Base set of packages needed in Linux
 mode for i386/amd64 (L
 
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Re: Why Linux Firefox doesn't play flash movies?

2010-02-15 Thread Bruce Cran
On Monday 15 February 2010 13:53:27 Alexandre L. wrote:
 I can play Youtube movies using Firefox 3.5.x or Firefox 3.6, and
  linux-f10-flashplugin10 10.0r45.
 
 I followed the tutorial : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5786

There are also good instructions at 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-
browsers.html

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Why does soft link in /var/log disappear?

2010-02-15 Thread John Almberg
I didn't make my /var partition big enough, way back when, and have had to move 
my /var/log/www directory to another partition. I did this by moving the 
directory, and then adding a soft link from /var/log to the moved directory, 
using something like:

ln -s /home/wwwlog /var/log/www

This works great, but something is deleting the soft link. 

Is there anything in the freebsd base that 'cleans up' the /var/log directory? 
Any hints on how I can discover what is doing this clean up, or a way to 
protect this link from being deleted?

Thanks: John


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Re: simple (and stupid) shell scripting question

2010-02-15 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Nerius Landys nlan...@gmail.com wrote:

 #!/bin/sh
 
 DIRNAME=`dirname \$0\`
 cd $DIRNAME
 SCRIPTDIR=`pwd`
 
 What if I got rid of extra double quotes?  Like this:
 
 DIRNAME=`dirname \$0\`
 cd $DIRNAME
 SCRIPTDIR=`pwd`

That is perfectly fine.  Word-splitting and filename expansion are
not performed for variable assignments.  Also immune is the expression
after case, so this is always fine:
 
  case $FOO in ...
 
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Re: Why lsof shows the file as open and fstat doesn't ?

2010-02-15 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 15), Yuri said:
 I am looking at one file which is actually a unix socket: 
 /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6.
 lsof | grep dbus-iQmkLjgxD6 shows that it's open by a particular 
 process many times:
 ibus-daem 48407   yuri4uunix 0xc966019c  0t0  /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
 ibus-daem 48407   yuri5uunix 0xc9569000  0t0  /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
 ibus-daem 48407   yuri6uunix 0xc955e9a8  0t0  /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
 ibus-daem 48407   yuri7uunix 0xc8d25000  0t0  /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
 ibus-daem 48407   yuri8uunix 0xc9596ce0  0t0  /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
 ibus-daem 48407   yuri9uunix 0xc8f9b19c  0t0  /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
 ibus-daem 48407   yuri   10uunix 0xc916619c  0t0  /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
 ibus-daem 48407   yuri   11uunix 0xc9547338  0t0  /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
 ibus-daem 48407   yuri   12uunix 0xc9589670  0t0  /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
 
 But when I run fstat /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6 it doesn't return anything, 
 like this file isn't open at all.
 
 Why there is such discrepancy?

It looks like fstat doesn't work on unix sockets at all; I tried on
/tmp/mysql.sock and some X11 sockets.

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Re: Why does soft link in /var/log disappear?

2010-02-15 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 09:46:09AM -0500, John Almberg wrote:

 I didn't make my /var partition big enough, way back when, and have had 
 to move my /var/log/www directory to another partition. I did this by 
 moving the directory, and then adding a soft link from /var/log to the 
 moved directory, using something like:
 
 ln -s /home/wwwlog /var/log/www
 
 This works great, but something is deleting the soft link. 
 
 Is there anything in the freebsd base that 'cleans up' the /var/log 
 directory? Any hints on how I can discover what is doing this clean up, 
 or a way to protect this link from being deleted?

Do you have log rotation set up?
In order to do a clean copy when the file may still be held open
by the www system, the rotator may delete and recreate the file.
The rotator probably does not pay any attention to it being a link.

This is just a big guess, but something to check on.

I have many directories moved and linked to use other space
and have no problem with it.  It should work, but you may have
to make the log rotator smarter - or change how the directory
tree is set up.Something like:  don't move and link the 
actual file/directory the logger writes to, but create a directory
above it in the bigger space and then set up configuration to write
to log files within it so there never has to be a link on the actual
files on which the log rotator is working.

jerry   

 
 Thanks: John
 
 
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Re: Why does soft link in /var/log disappear?

2010-02-15 Thread Lowell Gilbert
John Almberg jalmb...@identry.com writes:

 I didn't make my /var partition big enough, way back when, and have had to 
 move my /var/log/www directory to another partition. I did this by moving the 
 directory, and then adding a soft link from /var/log to the moved directory, 
 using something like:

 ln -s /home/wwwlog /var/log/www

 This works great, but something is deleting the soft link. 

 Is there anything in the freebsd base that 'cleans up' the /var/log 
 directory? Any hints on how I can discover what is doing this clean up, or a 
 way to protect this link from being deleted?

When does it happen?  Without knowing that, we're pretty much into
wild-guess territory. 

That said, my wild guess is that it happens at installworld time and
there's something strange in your mtree file for var.

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Re: Installing FreeBSD on a USB stick.

2010-02-15 Thread Tim Judd
On 2/15/10, Christer Solskogen christer.solsko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:

 http://www.a1poweruser.com/usb.info.htm


 Why does Websence think your site contains Potentially Unwanted Software?



Without even clicking his link, I've had past experience with a
legit website being marked unsafe by various engines out there.


1) Another site sister to them (by means of the same IP subnet
block) is truly unwanted, and it improperly marks a legit site bad.
This includes the SOA's DNS servers (I had this case)
2) The legit site is using an ad agency that is known to do bad stuff
with their banner ads.
3) A site with a vulnerable app (think wordpress or the notorious
php apps that are put out) that hasn't been patched.

And I agree with this 'Fbsd1' user (I wish 'Fbsd1' would update his
MTA with a real name) that since Christer is who uses the product, he
should look into it.

--TJ
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Re: Why lsof shows the file as open and fstat doesn't ?

2010-02-15 Thread Anthony M. Rasat
Yuri wrote:
But when I run fstat /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6 
it doesn't return anything, like this file isn't 
open at all.

I'm not sure that this will answer your question but bear with me.

Usually I use lsof to list any listening TCP or UDP ports, with following 
command:

lsof -P -i -n

The result will clearly show you what application listening to what port. Now 
this is I'm not really sure if I'm correct: by default Dbus doesn't have any 
listening port.
 
Hope that would help you.

Regards,

Anthony M. Rasat
Manager - Technical, Network and Support Division
PT. Jawa Pos National Network
Graha Pena Jawa Pos Group Building, 5th floor
Jln. Raya Kebayoran Lama 12, Jakarta Selatan 12210
Indonesia.-
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Re: booting off a ZFS pool consisting of multiple striped mirror vdevs

2010-02-15 Thread Matt Reimer
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello

 I have succesfully tested and used a full ZFS install of FreeBSD 8.0
 on both single disk and mirror disk configurations using both MBR and
 GPT partitioning. AFAIK, with the more recent -CURRENT and -STABLE it
 is also possible to boot off a root filesystem located on raidz/raidz2
 pools. But what about booting off pools consisting of multiple striped
 mirror or raidz vdevs? Like this:

 Assume each disk looks like a half of a traditional ZFS mirror root
 configuration using GPT

 1: freebsd-boot
 2: freebsd-swap
 3: freebsd-zfs

 |disk1+disk2| + |disk3+disk4| + |disk5+disk6|

 My logic tells me that while booting off any of the 6 disks, boot0 and
 boot1 stage should obviously work fine, but what about the boot2
 stage? Can it properly handle booting off a root filesystem thats
 striped across 3 mirror vdevs or is booting off a single mirror vdev
 the best that one can do right now?


I don't know, but I plan to test that scenario in a few days.

Matt
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Re: booting off a ZFS pool consisting of multiple striped mirror vdevs

2010-02-15 Thread Robert Noland
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 10:07 -0800, Matt Reimer wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello
 
  I have succesfully tested and used a full ZFS install of FreeBSD 8.0
  on both single disk and mirror disk configurations using both MBR and
  GPT partitioning. AFAIK, with the more recent -CURRENT and -STABLE it
  is also possible to boot off a root filesystem located on raidz/raidz2
  pools. But what about booting off pools consisting of multiple striped
  mirror or raidz vdevs? Like this:
 
  Assume each disk looks like a half of a traditional ZFS mirror root
  configuration using GPT
 
  1: freebsd-boot
  2: freebsd-swap
  3: freebsd-zfs
 
  |disk1+disk2| + |disk3+disk4| + |disk5+disk6|
 
  My logic tells me that while booting off any of the 6 disks, boot0 and
  boot1 stage should obviously work fine, but what about the boot2
  stage? Can it properly handle booting off a root filesystem thats
  striped across 3 mirror vdevs or is booting off a single mirror vdev
  the best that one can do right now?
 
 
 I don't know, but I plan to test that scenario in a few days.

It *should* work... I made changes a while back that allow for multiple
vdevs to attach to the root.  In this case you should have 3 mirror
vdevs attached to the root, so as long as the BIOS can enumerate all of
the drives, we should find all of the vdevs and build the tree
correctly.  It should be simple enough to test in qemu, except that the
BIOS in qemu is a little broken and might not id all of the drives.

robert.

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cannot build GIMP 2.6.8-1 on 8.0-STABLE

2010-02-15 Thread William Bulley
I am trying to build the GIMP on 8.0-STABLE but had a problem.
For what it's worth, I have these ports installed:

   gtk-1.2.10_21
   gtk-2.18.6_1

It is not clear to me why GIMP (or webkit-gtk2) depends on
having Gnome2 (gnome-config) installed (I use open-motif):


   checking for GSTREAMER... gnome-config: not found
   gnome-config: not found
   gnome-config: not found
   configure: error: Package requirements (gstreamer-0.10 = 0.10
 gstreamer-base-0.10
 gstreamer-pbutils-0.10
 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10
 gstreamer-video-0.10) were not met:

   No package 'gstreamer-pbutils-0.10' found
   No package 'gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10' found
   No package 'gstreamer-video-0.10' found

   Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
   installed software in a non-standard prefix.

   Alternatively, you may set the environment variables GSTREAMER_CFLAGS
   and GSTREAMER_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
   See the pkg-config man page for more details.

   ===  Script configure failed unexpectedly.
   Please run the gnomelogalyzer, available from
   http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh;, which will diagnose the
   problem and suggest a solution. If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer cannot
   solve the problem, report the build failure to the FreeBSD GNOME team at
   gn...@freebsd.org, and attach (a)
   /usr/ports/www/webkit-gtk2/work/webkit-1.1.15.4/config.log, (b) the output
   of the failed make command, and (c) the gnomelogalyzer output. Also, it might
   be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your 
system
   (i.e. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). Put your attachment up on any website,
   copy-and-paste into http://freebsd-gnome.pastebin.com, or use send-pr(1) with
   the attachment. Try to avoid sending any attachments to the mailing list
   (gn...@freebsd.org), because attachments sent to FreeBSD mailing lists are
   usually discarded by the mailing list software.
   *** Error code 1

   Stop in /usr/ports/www/webkit-gtk2.
   *** Error code 1

   Stop in /usr/ports/www/webkit-gtk2.
   *** Error code 1

   Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app.
   *** Error code 1

   Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app.
   *** Error code 1

   Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp.
   *** Error code 1

   Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp.


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amd64 gives panic message when booting CD

2010-02-15 Thread Michael T Ehlert

Hello-

I have a server box with an Intel s5000vcl motherboard and 2 dual-core 
Xeon procs. I was hoping to run FreeBSD 8 on it, but when I try to boot 
the amd64 media I get


panic: No BIOS smap info from loader:

I've Googled about and found chatter relating to the message, but no 
work-around. I'm not a guru, so I'm a bit stuck. Any guidance would be 
much appreciated :D


Thanks,
Michael
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Preparing to Install MFSBSD Loader on Disk

2010-02-15 Thread Martin McCormick
When one is logged in to a FreeBSD system, an attempt to
write to the mounted file systems on /dev/ad0, for example,
fails with Operation not permitted. This is a wonderful
feature 99% of the time because this is disastrous to any
future access after that point.

The only exception to this is if one wants to remotely
rebuild the system at which point one needs to do something like

dd if=mfsboot.img of=/dev/ad0

This is, of course, the end of all access to that drive
as we presently know it so a reboot is the only other option and
one must hope and pray that the mfsboot install worked.

My experience so far is that mfsbsd works well but I
would like to be able to do the whole operation without mailing
out labeled CDR's or USB sticks. Each of our remote sites has 2
FreeBSD boxes and I can just see a hurried individual
accidentally switching the media so we not only loose contact
with the system we are rebuilding, but the boot CD will bring up
mfsbsd on the very IP address of the backup system, crashing
everything.

One could use a temporary third address on the network
that isn't either system A or System B, but I think I can use
the parametric values in mfsbsd to configure the new server so
it would be best to use the same addresses as normal for each
device because of multiple firewalls that one may discover too
late are not set right to allow the upgrade.

I have been messing with automation for about 35 years
and one of the few things I learned was that Murphy is naive and
overly optimistic. 

In this case, Plan B is to have 1 CDROM on hand at the
remote site in case we loose the box. That CD could have mfsbsd
set to a third address and then also contain the boot images of
both systems.

My question today is whether there is any way to
remotely get the mfsbsd.img data written to the boot drive and
execute the reboot command.

A document I read on this topic tells you to scp the
image to the target system and then, as root, use dd to write it
to disk. I was root when I discovered I couldn't do that.

Thanks for any answers and, Kids, be really careful
here. The dd operation totally destroys all existing partitions.
What you get is partitions 1-3 are unused and partition 4
contains the mfsbsd image that will create the virtual disk with
a baby OS when the reboot happens.

Since you start with no actual drives mounted, you can
reformat the hard drive to however you need it, but you can't
reboot again until there is a working system back on the hard
drive or you just get a warm, humming paperweight. That's when
you need the rescue CD.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group
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freebsd

2010-02-15 Thread tristan
i recently installed freebsd on my system. when i sign in to the root account, 
i get a prompt telling me about the documentation, then a # sign. how do i 
acess an interactive desktop like the one in windows/mac?
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FreeBSD 8.0 and CDN connection issue

2010-02-15 Thread Vikash Badal
Hi

We are having a strange problem with FreeBSD 8.0  ( problem is not seen
on 7.X or 6.X ) and its behavior towards what appears to be a problem
with the footprint cdn which hosts sites such as:
http://www.formula1.com
http://www.vw.com
http://www.rca.com

The issue can be seen below:

PF enabled with scrubing:

/etc/pf.conf:
#
scrub in all
pass in on lo0 all
pass out on lo0 all
pass in on em0 all
pass out on em0 all
#

telnet to cdn on port 80. 

tcpdump below:
18:09:41.625409 IP freebsd.8.51776  209.84.7.126.80: Flags [S], seq
4208441727, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 3,sackOK,TS val
161897 ecr 0], length 0
18:09:41.900230 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
3063615393, ack 4208441728, win 5792, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val
81367 ecr 161897,nop,wscale 7], length 0
18:09:41.900236 IP freebsd.8.51776  209.84.7.126.80: Flags [.], ack 1,
win 8326, options [nop,nop,TS val 161924 ecr 81367], length 0
18:09:41.900242 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
3332367005, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900248 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
4174817132, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900254 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
440460550, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900467 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
477325580, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900473 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
769752490, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900479 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
629432722, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900485 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
4152361545, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900491 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
1928751848, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900497 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
3230160684, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900503 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
1491106974, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900509 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
2033022417, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900515 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
1187979504, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900521 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
797713074, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900527 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
3546267649, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900533 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
245712922, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.900539 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
1525656528, ack 4208441728, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:09:41.901017 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
2249622145, ack 4208441728, win 5792, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val
246213904 ecr 161897,nop,wscale 7], length 0
18:09:46.241996 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.51776: Flags [S.], seq
2249622145, ack 4208441728, win 5792, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val
246214338 ecr 161897,nop,wscale 7], length 0


pf disabled:

telnet 209.84.7.126 80
Trying 209.84.7.126...
telnet: connect to address 209.84.7.126: Connection reset by peer
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host



tcpdump:
18:11:29.122444 IP freebsd.8.41986  209.84.7.126.80: Flags [S], seq
2294539745, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 3,sackOK,TS val
172648 ecr 0], length 0
18:11:29.395219 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.41986: Flags [S.], seq
2724299112, ack 2294539746, win 5792, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val
813551987 ecr 172648,nop,wscale 7], length 0
18:11:29.395225 IP freebsd.8.41986  209.84.7.126.80: Flags [.], ack 1,
win 8326, options [nop,nop,TS val 172676 ecr 813551987], length 0
18:11:29.395231 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.41986: Flags [S.], seq
3789304658, ack 2294539746, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:11:29.395237 IP freebsd.8.41986  209.84.7.126.80: Flags [.], ack
3229961751, win 8326, options [nop,nop,TS val 172676 ecr 813551987],
length 0
18:11:29.395243 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.41986: Flags [S.], seq
3256912235, ack 2294539746, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:11:29.395249 IP freebsd.8.41986  209.84.7.126.80: Flags [.], ack
3762354174, win 8326, options [nop,nop,TS val 172676 ecr 813551987],
length 0
18:11:29.395255 IP 209.84.7.126.80  freebsd.8.41986: Flags [S.], seq
737801599, ack 2294539746, win 5840, options [mss 1460], length 0
18:11:29.395261 IP freebsd.8.41986  209.84.7.126.80: Flags [R.], seq 1,
ack 1986497514, win 8326, options [nop,nop,TS val 172676 ecr 

Re: freebsd

2010-02-15 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Feb 15, 2010, at 10:12 AM, tristan wrote:
 i recently installed freebsd on my system. when i sign in to the root 
 account, i get a prompt telling me about the documentation, then a # sign. 
 how do i acess an interactive desktop like the one in windows/mac?

Install and configure an X11 environment like KDE or GNOME.

Regards,
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Re: freebsd

2010-02-15 Thread Ross Cameron
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:12 PM, tristan tristan@hotmail.com wrote:
 i recently installed freebsd on my system. when i sign in to the root 
 account, i get a prompt telling me about the documentation, then a # sign. 
 how do i acess an interactive desktop like the one in windows/mac?

Not quite that easy to answer unfortunately,... depends on how you did
the install.

Considering you're new to FreeBSD why not give something like DesktopBSD a try?
FreeBSD under the hood but a bit more graphical to ease the entry
into the BSD way of thinking..


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overalls and looks like work.
Thomas Alva Edison
Inventor of 1093 patents, including:
The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures.
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Re: freebsd

2010-02-15 Thread Randy Schultz
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, tristan spaketh thusly:

-}i recently installed freebsd on my system. when i sign in to the root 
account, i get a prompt telling me about the documentation, then a # sign. how 
do i acess an interactive desktop like the one in windows/mac?

Freebsd does not install a window manager by default.  You have to pick one.
There are many for all ranges of needs.  If you do not wish to deal with
installing one but want the power/stability of freebsd, look for distros that
come complete with a window manager, such as pc-bsd.

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Love with your heart, think with your head;  not the other way around.

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Re: freebsd

2010-02-15 Thread Frank Wißmann

Hello!

tristan schrieb:

i recently installed freebsd on my system. when i sign in to the root account, 
i get a prompt telling me about the documentation, then a # sign. how do i 
acess an interactive desktop like the one in windows/mac?
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The documentation at

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

should help you about this.

Greetings Frank

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and no one will move from the trail
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Re: Why lsof shows the file as open and fstat doesn't ?

2010-02-15 Thread Yuri

Dan Nelson wrote:

It looks like fstat doesn't work on unix sockets at all; I tried on
/tmp/mysql.sock and some X11 sockets.
  

I filed a PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=143962

Yuri
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Re: freebsd

2010-02-15 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 01:12:13PM -0500, tristan wrote:

 i recently installed freebsd on my system. when i sign in to the root 
 account, i get a prompt telling me about the documentation, then a # sign. 
 how do i acess an interactive desktop like the one in windows/mac?

FreeBSD does not twist your arm to use a GUI interface.   For much
server work, that stuff just gets in the way.   So, by default you
have a plain 'vanilla' command line interface.   But, it is all
readily available and some variation is helpful for desktop use.

You need to run X-Windows plus a windows manager.
The Xorg system is the Xwin stuff.
There are many windows managers, some very simple (which I prefer - I
tend to use Afterstep) and some full blown and even rather bloated.
Each has its rabid advocates.  There are also combination window manager/
desktop systems such as KDE and Gnome.

Once you have Xorg and your favorite windowmanager or desktop combo 
installed, you need to configure them and set them up to start on
command or when you log in, which ever you prefer.   By the way, you
can install more than one window manager and/or desktop and switch
between then to suit yourself or to experiment.

So, back to the Handbook and learn about these things.  Once you learn
them, it will be easy, but it will take a bit of fuss to get them
just how you want it in the beginning.

jerry

ps. I never did get that 'plain vanilla' thing.  Vanilla is a flavoring 
ingredient as much as chocolate or cherry. 
/jrm 

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Undocumented Userland Change ?

2010-02-15 Thread perrimd
/usr/bin/window is missing as is the man page for  window on FreeBSD 8.0R.
I do not see this change documented anywhere, was the file dropped
by accident ?


Thanks.  Mike

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free bsd license

2010-02-15 Thread tristan
is the FreeBSD-8.0-amd.iso itself under the bsd license?
i mean the free bsd operating system, not the software
i plan to modify then redistribute it, under a new name. it will remain under 
the same license, with the same copyright docs, but the help or other docs will 
be gone, my own put in.
(just trying to give as much details as possible, I'm new to this)
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Re: free bsd license

2010-02-15 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Feb 15, 2010, at 10:38 AM, tristan wrote:
 is the FreeBSD-8.0-amd.iso itself under the bsd license?

Mostly; there's a compilation copyright associated with the FreeBSD ISO images, 
but some of the components of FreeBSD are under the GPL (notably the GCC 
compiler toolchain), and possibly CDDL for stuff from Sun like ZFS.

 i mean the free bsd operating system, not the software
 i plan to modify then redistribute it, under a new name. it will remain under 
 the same license, with the same copyright docs, but the help or other docs 
 will be gone, my own put in.
 (just trying to give as much details as possible, I'm new to this)

There's nothing wrong with what you propose, although there is or should be a 
preference towards making improvements with the existing documentation rather 
than simply forking it and rolling something new.

Regards,
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PS: IANAL, TINLA.  Cave canem.

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Re: simple (and stupid) shell scripting question

2010-02-15 Thread Nerius Landys
 #!/bin/sh

 DIRNAME=`dirname \$0\`
 cd $DIRNAME
 SCRIPTDIR=`pwd`

 What if I got rid of extra double quotes?  Like this:

 DIRNAME=`dirname \$0\`
 cd $DIRNAME
 SCRIPTDIR=`pwd`

 That is perfectly fine.  Word-splitting and filename expansion are
 not performed for variable assignments.  Also immune is the expression
 after case, so this is always fine:

  case $FOO in ...

Since you guys have been so helpful I thought I'd ask one more question.

Let's say I have a script named te st (yes, with a space in the filename).
The contents of this script are:

#!/bin/sh
if [ $# -ne 2 ]; then
echo 12 One argument expected.  Example usage:
echo 12   `basename \${0}\` 64.156.192.169 cheaters
exit 1
fi

When executed with no arguments, this script would print something like so:

nlan...@daffyzsh# ./te\ st
One argument expected.  Example usage:
  te st 64.156.192.169 cheaters
nlan...@daffyzsh#

Is there a function, or command line utility, to escape a string,
making it suitable to be input on the command line?  For example, this
escape utility would take a input of te st and create an output of
te\ st.  Other things such as quotes and single quotes would be
handled as well.
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Re: Undocumented Userland Change ?

2010-02-15 Thread Bruce Cran
On Monday 15 February 2010 18:08:01 perr...@copesd.org wrote:
 /usr/bin/window is missing as is the man page for  window on FreeBSD 8.0R.
 I do not see this change documented anywhere, was the file dropped
 by accident ?

It was documented in /usr/src/UPDATING:

20090602:
window(1) has been removed from the base system. It can now be
installed from ports. The port is called misc/window.

-- 
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Fn key events in Devd

2010-02-15 Thread Anselm Strauss
Hi,

is there a way to see all events going through devd? I have loaded the 
acpi_asus module, but the default devd rules in /etc/devd/asus.conf don't seem 
to match for my Fn keys. How can I find out what Fn key produces which event in 
devd?

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iso license

2010-02-15 Thread tristan
the 8.0-RELEASE-i386-dvd1.iso.gz  is under some compilation copyright. what 
does this mean, and can i freely edit the iso, rename it, and sell it? can i 
get a copy of the license for the 8.0-RELEASE-i386-dvd1.iso.gz? i want to do 
what Apple did with FreeBSD - edit, rename, and sell, can i do that with the 
iso?
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Re: cannot build GIMP 2.6.8-1 on 8.0-STABLE

2010-02-15 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, William Bulley wrote:


I am trying to build the GIMP on 8.0-STABLE but had a problem.
For what it's worth, I have these ports installed:

  gtk-1.2.10_21
  gtk-2.18.6_1

It is not clear to me why GIMP (or webkit-gtk2) depends on
having Gnome2 (gnome-config) installed (I use open-motif):

  checking for GSTREAMER... gnome-config: not found
  gnome-config: not found
  gnome-config: not found
  configure: error: Package requirements (gstreamer-0.10 = 0.10
gstreamer-base-0.10
gstreamer-pbutils-0.10
gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10
gstreamer-video-0.10) were not met:


webkit-gtk2 wants gnome-config to build gstreamer to support video. 
You can disable the VIDEO option in the webkit-gtk2 config settings, or 
just disable HELPBROWSER in the graphics/gimp-app port.  Last I looked, 
the help was very outdated anyway.


Don't know why the webkit-gtk2 build dies, though.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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[Solved] Re: SpamAssassin 3.3.0/sa-update problem

2010-02-15 Thread Marco Beishuizen

On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Marco Beishuizen wrote:


Hi,

Since the update of SpamAssassin to 3.3.0, spamd doesn't start anymore and 
exits with an error:


child process [x] exited or timed out without signaling production of a 
PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 2544.


It seems that after the upgrade, sa-update has to be run first. But in my 
case this results in an error also:


sa-update -D
Feb 13 15:32:07.852 [31554] dbg: dns: query failed: 
0.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org = NOERROR
Feb 13 15:32:07.855 [31554] dbg: dns: query failed: 
mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org = NOERROR

channel: no 'mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org' record found, channel failed
Feb 13 15:32:07.855 [31554] dbg: diag: updates complete, exiting with code 4

I've tried to reinstall SpamAssassin by portupgrade -Rrf 
p5-Mail-SpamAssassin, but this doesn't make any difference. Hope that anyone 
has an idea how to solve this.


I've upgraded the firmware of my DSL modem and the problem has 
disappeared.


Regards,
Marco

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Re: iso license

2010-02-15 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 tristan == tristan  tristan@hotmail.com writes:

tristan the 8.0-RELEASE-i386-dvd1.iso.gz is under some compilation
tristan copyright. what does this mean, and can i freely edit the iso, rename
tristan it, and sell it?

You're asking *us* instead of a lawyer? :)

But what did you not understand about the previous answer you just got?

Most of FreeBSD is under a BSD license, which means do nearly anything you
want with it.  Some *parts* of a standard FreeBSD distro are under more
restrictive licenses, and you need to either comply with those licenses, or
remove those parts from your derivative distribution.

Now, if that's opaque to you, hire a lawyer.  Now.

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Re: NOW what?

2010-02-15 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 07:34:45AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes:
 
  On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 04:38:54AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
  Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes:
  
   On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:10:38AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
   [... long line snip ...]
I just tried again and now Konq did send me to the hyperlink...
Was i hallucinating? dunno
  
  Hi Gary, how about GNOME's epiphany? Recently i settled down at
  epiphany for web work. That looks good to me.
  
 
 
  I like epiphany more and more; the thing it lacks, and the Only
  reason I  use Konq is that it lets me use the festival
  text-to-speech apps.  
 
  If *anybody* knows of any other browser that can be set to have
  festival stuff work, please, Pulsseeze let me know:)
 
 Gary, what is festival text-to-speech apps? Can you please tell me what
 that is? in detail... If i have good idea, i can give you some
 information -- maybe there is some apps you want for in GNOME
 packages. 


If you look is /usr/ports/audio you will find the festival
ports.  
  2 drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel512 Jan 25 20:13 festival
  2 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel512 Jan 27 03:07 festival-freebsoft-utils
   2 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel512 Apr  8  2009 festlex-cmu

are some of them.  When you use the Konqueror browser and
have festival correctly installed, you can mouse-swipe a
bunch of text and click on the Tools drop-down and have the
text read aloud to you.

It is fairly difficult to get a computer produce human
speech.  I found out just some of the problems recently when
I began looking at some of the code.  Much of festival is
written in C++; that I understand somewhat.  Other parts are
written in some kind of LISP; I do not understand LISP very
well.  Anyway, the point here is that when I find a long,
long essay on some philosopher and have to read it, having is
spoken to me is *MUCH* easier than making my eyes struggle
thru the essay.  

So far, there are plug-ins to firefox-3 that attempt to read
text to you, but nothing I can get to work.  Gnome probably
does have speech apps by now, but they probably rely on
festival as a back-end.



 
 Ah and I'm not sure my word is correct english. 

My friend, your English is just fine.  I am, sadly, still
mono-lingual.  I am still trying to learn *French* that I
took in high school.  (*sigh*)


 If i speak wrong
 english, you have to communicate mind to mind without appeared
 word. 

Ha!  Yes, that would be nice, even if it required something
you had to wear on your head, :-)Well, maybe in a few
hundred years.

 Plus Gary you study Korean. Korean is easy to study ^^; 
 

Sure it's easy; so is climbing a sheer cliff face!  I think
anybody who can understand English as well as their native
language[s], is absolutely outstanding.   Congrats.

later on,

gary


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Re: Fn key events in Devd

2010-02-15 Thread David Horn
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Anselm Strauss amsiba...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 is there a way to see all events going through devd?

cat /var/run/devd.pipe

should work for what you need too see from devd.

See the documentation for more details:
man 8 devd

 I have loaded the acpi_asus module, but the default devd rules in 
 /etc/devd/asus.conf don't seem to match for my Fn keys. How can I find out 
 what Fn key produces which event in devd?

Good Luck.

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Re: NOW what?

2010-02-15 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes:

 [...]
   If you look is /usr/ports/audio you will find the festival
   ports.  
   2 drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel512 Jan 25 20:13 festival
   2 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel512 Jan 27 03:07 festival-freebsoft-utils
2 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel512 Apr  8  2009 festlex-cmu

   are some of them.  When you use the Konqueror browser and
   have festival correctly installed, you can mouse-swipe a
   bunch of text and click on the Tools drop-down and have the
   text read aloud to you.

   It is fairly difficult to get a computer produce human
   speech.  I found out just some of the problems recently when
   I began looking at some of the code.  Much of festival is
   written in C++; that I understand somewhat.  Other parts are
   written in some kind of LISP; I do not understand LISP very
   well. 

LISP is from Tao. That's why it is not easy to people. 

   Anyway, the point here is that when I find a long,
   long essay on some philosopher and have to read it, having is
   spoken to me is *MUCH* easier than making my eyes struggle
   thru the essay.  

   So far, there are plug-ins to firefox-3 that attempt to read
   text to you, but nothing I can get to work.  Gnome probably
   does have speech apps by now, but they probably rely on
   festival as a back-end.

Well i cannot produce the problem on my desktop -- FreeBSD
8.0-RELEASE. And for now, actually i can't launch firefox because my
memory is so low (256M). Instead i use epiphany, which play well under
low memory system. Then your -RELEASE version and default GUI
environment(eg., KDE, GNOME)? 

Or i'd like to say that you should take to report as bug by send-pr. 
 
Sincerely,

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Re: freebsd

2010-02-15 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
tristan tristan@hotmail.com writes:

 i recently installed freebsd on my system. when i sign in to the root
 account, i get a prompt telling me about the documentation, then a #
 sign. how do i acess an interactive desktop like the one in
 windows/mac? 

Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/ if you interested in
GNOME. Or just type `pkg_add -v -r gnome2-lite' as root on terminal.

Sincerely,
 
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