[SPURIOUS] Delivery Status Notification(Failure) (fwd)

[Ian Smith]

Has anyone (everyone?) else been receiving these DSNs a week or so after 
having posted to freebsd-questions@ ?  Since around early April?

I've had four such in the last three days, and the only recipient the 
messages that I posted have in common is the -questions list itself.

If it's 'just me' I can block their source, but if more widespread I'll 
ask our esteemed postmaster (cc'd) to try hunting the errant recipient.

cheers, Ian

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Re: [SPURIOUS] Delivery Status Notification(Failure) (fwd)

[perryh]

Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote:

 Has anyone (everyone?) else been receiving these DSNs a week or so
 after having posted to freebsd-questions@ ?  Since around early
 April?

 I've had four such in the last three days ...

 If it's 'just me' I can block their source, but if more widespread
 I'll ask our esteemed postmaster (cc'd) to try hunting the errant
 recipient.

 cheers, Ian

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 Subject: Re: reliable rs-232
 Sent Date: 25:05 +
 has not been delivered to the recipient's BlackBerry Handheld.

Now that you mention it, yes.  A posting to freebsd-questions@
about 01:00 (US Pacific) on Apr 06 did not get one of those, but
one about 01:10 on Apr 08 and three (one about 01:00, two about
19:10) on Apr 09 did.  The first notice turned up at 20:16 Apr 16,
and the other three between 20:13 and 20:15 on Apr 17.  All four
specify the same recipient address as yours.
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Re: Request for mount_nfs assistance

[Jon Mercer]

Peter,

The two lines shouldn't create a conflict, but it would seem to me to be
more normal to append the second IP after the first, e.g.:

/usr/home1  -maproot=root   192.168.0.252, 192.168.0.253

On the other hand, if the 253 machine doesn't need access it would be wise
to remove the second line altogether and reduce any potential attack arising
from that machine on the mount.

Have you checked /var/log/messages and any other files to see why the server
(maybe) didn't start after the last reboot? That could prevent any
recurrence.

Jon

On 19 April 2010 17:48, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:


 192.168.0.244's /etc/exports file says:

 /usr/home1  -maproot=root   192.168.0.252
 /usr/home1  -maproot=root   192.168.0.253

 192.168.0.252 is the machine that should have access to 192.168.0.244's
 drive, but was having difficulty obtaining it.  I'm kind of surprised to see
 the entry for 192.168.0.253, because I don't think that machine has any need
 for access to the drive.

 Do these two entires in the /etc/exports file create a conflict?

 I don't believe there were any recent network-related changes.

 ---

 At 12:00 PM 4/19/2010, Jon Mercer wrote:
 What information is contained in the /etc/exports file on the NFS server?
 If
 that changed between NFS Server restarts that _could_ be the cause.
 
 Also, has there been any simultaneous change in the network across which
 the
 servers speak? Especially with regard to port 111.
 
 
 
 On 19 April 2010 15:38, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:
 
 
  I have two servers funning FreeBSD.  For the past four years, an:
 
 /sbin/mount_nfs 192.168.0.244:/usr/home1 /home1
 
  command has successfully allowed one server access to data on the other
  server's hard drive.
 
  This morning, following reboots of both servers, the mount_nsf command
  fails, returns:
 
 192.168.0.244:/usr/home1: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Timed out
 
  error messages.
 
  Each server can ping the other and connect via ssh; the hardware's
 working
  fine; I don't believe anything's changed on either server recently; and
 the
  find command doesn't indicate that any system files have been altered in
 the
  past week.
 
  I'm at a complete loss for any explanation of the failure, and I'm
  uncertain how to diagnose and fix the problem.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [SPURIOUS] Delivery Status Notification(Failure) (fwd)

[Matthew Seaman]

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On 20/04/2010 08:08:40, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote:
 
 Has anyone (everyone?) else been receiving these DSNs a week or so
 after having posted to freebsd-questions@ ?  Since around early
 April?

 I've had four such in the last three days ...

 If it's 'just me' I can block their source, but if more widespread
 I'll ask our esteemed postmaster (cc'd) to try hunting the errant
 recipient.

 cheers, Ian

 -- Forwarded message --
 snip headers
 Your message:
 To: twelc...@mobileemail.vodafonesa.co.za
 Subject: Re: reliable rs-232
 Sent Date: 25:05 +
 has not been delivered to the recipient's BlackBerry Handheld.
 
 Now that you mention it, yes.  A posting to freebsd-questions@
 about 01:00 (US Pacific) on Apr 06 did not get one of those, but
 one about 01:10 on Apr 08 and three (one about 01:00, two about
 19:10) on Apr 09 did.  The first notice turned up at 20:16 Apr 16,
 and the other three between 20:13 and 20:15 on Apr 17.  All four
 specify the same recipient address as yours.

I've seen exactly one bounco like this -- but only after grepping
through lots of mail logs and my junk folder.  One bounce is bad enough
if it goes back to the whole list -- but that could be excused as a
momentary aberration.  Any more than that is grounds for reporting the
message to postmas...@freebsd.org and having the sender blacklisted:
anyone that configures a mail server to send error notifications to an
entire mailing list needs a) to spend some quality time studying the
SMTP RFCs and b) to step away from the keyboard /now/ as they are
clearly not competent to run a mail server on the Internet.

Thoroughly recommend using relaydb(1) to teach your mail system where
you've received spam from in the past and make sure it doesn't happen
again.  I've a cron job that processes the contents of my Junk
mailfolder through relaydb on a daily basis.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Kill via Cron...

[mcoyles]

Morning all - on FreeBSD 7.1 (for various reasons - don't ask)
Am attempting to run the following via cron but it keeps erroring out:

kill -9 `ps ax | grep backup | grep -v grep | awk '{print $1}'`  kill -9
`ps ax | grep dump | grep -v grep | awk '{print $1}'`


Error: 

usage: kill [-s signal_name] pid ...
   kill -l [exit_status]
   kill -signal_name pid ...
   kill -signal_number pid ...

Works OK from commandline - what do I need to change to make this cronable??


Cheers
Marci

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Re: IT Support And services

[Ross Cameron]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Streamlyn Technologies
 a...@stechnologies.co.za wrote:
 Since its establishment in 2005 Streamlyn Technologies has actively and 
 successfully been helping small to medium companies deal with:

 Computer hardware and software hassles and needs by providing


 WTF?

LoL whaaay to go stechnologies.co.za!!!
Thanks for making all of South Africa look like idiots lol
hehehehehehehehehe we really appreciate it!



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Re: Kill via Cron...

[Matthew Seaman]

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On 20/04/2010 08:52:58, mcoyles wrote:
 Morning all - on FreeBSD 7.1 (for various reasons - don't ask)
 Am attempting to run the following via cron but it keeps erroring out:
 
 kill -9 `ps ax | grep backup | grep -v grep | awk '{print $1}'`  kill -9
 `ps ax | grep dump | grep -v grep | awk '{print $1}'`
 
 
 Error: 
 
 usage: kill [-s signal_name] pid ...
kill -l [exit_status]
kill -signal_name pid ...
kill -signal_number pid ...
 
 Works OK from commandline - what do I need to change to make this cronable??

The usual problem is that the environment under cron is not set up
anything like the way it is for an interactive session.  Particularly
the PATH.  Either write you command as a small shell script and setup
PATH within it, or use fully qualified names for all commands.

Your command is probably better expressed as:

/bin/pkill -9 'backup|dump'

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Volume Manager on FreeBSD ( ZFS / VINUM / GEOM )

[krad]

On 20 April 2010 03:25, Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Leandro F Silva
 fsilvalean...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I'd like to know what kind of technology are you using on FreeBSD for
 volume
  manager, I mean, Z file system (ZFS), VINUM, GEOM,  or anyone else.
  Seems that Oracle won't offer support for ZFS on opensolaris, so do you
 know
  if FreeBSD will keep working with ZFS ?
 
  I had some old production servers those aren't using any kind of
 technology
  for volume manager, so could you please share what you're using / ideas /
  complains with us .


 I'd put my hands on fire for gvinum (vinum + GEOM). ZFS is great, but
 I'm not expert yet.

 Regards.


 Alberto Mijares
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If you are looking at running oracle it wont be supported on freebsd either.
The only free OS it will be supported on now is going to be linux
unfortunately (assuming it doesnt have to be redhat enterprise). However if
you are getting paid support on Oracle, then I doubt it will be much more to
get a support contract for solaris, therefore if you are mission critical
that would be your best option as you would have full vendor support and
have zfs, which is very useful for hot backups.
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RE: Kill via Cron...

[mcoyles]

On 20/04/2010 08:52:58, mcoyles wrote:
 Morning all - on FreeBSD 7.1 (for various reasons - don't ask)
 Am attempting to run the following via cron but it keeps erroring out:
 
 kill -9 `ps ax | grep backup | grep -v grep | awk '{print $1}'`  kill -9
 `ps ax | grep dump | grep -v grep | awk '{print $1}'`
 
 *snip* 
 
 Works OK from commandline - what do I need to change to make this cronable??

 The usual problem is that the environment under cron is not set up
 anything like the way it is for an interactive session.  Particularly
 the PATH.  Either write you command as a small shell script and setup
 PATH within it, or use fully qualified names for all commands.

 Your command is probably better expressed as:

 /bin/pkill -9 'backup|dump'


Hi Matthew - cheers for that, I always forget the lack of common path in cron 
*sigh*
Anyhoo, there are multiple instances of backup and dump coming back in ps 
-ax... your
suggested command appears to only kill off the first instance? Have used my 
commands 
above in cron now using full path reference as per your advice - just waiting 
for the
clock to click round to 11.30 here for them to run...

Cheers...
Marci

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Re: Kill via Cron...

[Matthew Seaman]

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On 20/04/2010 11:24:44, mcoyles wrote:
 On 20/04/2010 08:52:58, mcoyles wrote:
 Morning all - on FreeBSD 7.1 (for various reasons - don't ask)
 Am attempting to run the following via cron but it keeps erroring out:

 kill -9 `ps ax | grep backup | grep -v grep | awk '{print $1}'`  kill -9
 `ps ax | grep dump | grep -v grep | awk '{print $1}'`

 *snip* 

 Works OK from commandline - what do I need to change to make this cronable??
 
 The usual problem is that the environment under cron is not set up
 anything like the way it is for an interactive session.  Particularly
 the PATH.  Either write you command as a small shell script and setup
 PATH within it, or use fully qualified names for all commands.

 Your command is probably better expressed as:

 /bin/pkill -9 'backup|dump'
 
 
 Hi Matthew - cheers for that, I always forget the lack of common path in cron 
 *sigh*
 Anyhoo, there are multiple instances of backup and dump coming back in ps 
 -ax... your
 suggested command appears to only kill off the first instance? Have used my 
 commands 
 above in cron now using full path reference as per your advice - just waiting 
 for the
 clock to click round to 11.30 here for them to run...
 

It should kill them all.  According to the man page:

 The pkill command searches the process table on the running system and
 signals all processes that match the criteria given on the command
line.

You can change 'pkill' to 'pgrep -l' to see what it would kill without
actually killing anything.

Note that pkill and pgrep by default won't report any process ancestors
in the same process group as themselves unless you use the '-a' flag.  So:

worm:/usr/src:% pgrep -l tcsh
worm:/usr/src:% pgrep -a -l tcsh
1244 tcsh

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: [SPURIOUS] Delivery Status Notification(Failure) (fwd)

[Aiza]

Matthew Seaman wrote:

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On 20/04/2010 08:08:40, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:

Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote:


Has anyone (everyone?) else been receiving these DSNs a week or so
after having posted to freebsd-questions@ ?  Since around early
April?

I've had four such in the last three days ...

If it's 'just me' I can block their source, but if more widespread
I'll ask our esteemed postmaster (cc'd) to try hunting the errant
recipient.

cheers, Ian

-- Forwarded message --

snip headers

Your message:
To: twelc...@mobileemail.vodafonesa.co.za
Subject: Re: reliable rs-232
Sent Date: 25:05 +
has not been delivered to the recipient's BlackBerry Handheld.

Now that you mention it, yes.  A posting to freebsd-questions@
about 01:00 (US Pacific) on Apr 06 did not get one of those, but
one about 01:10 on Apr 08 and three (one about 01:00, two about
19:10) on Apr 09 did.  The first notice turned up at 20:16 Apr 16,
and the other three between 20:13 and 20:15 on Apr 17.  All four
specify the same recipient address as yours.


I've seen exactly one bounco like this -- but only after grepping
through lots of mail logs and my junk folder.  One bounce is bad enough
if it goes back to the whole list -- but that could be excused as a
momentary aberration.  Any more than that is grounds for reporting the
message to postmas...@freebsd.org and having the sender blacklisted:
anyone that configures a mail server to send error notifications to an
entire mailing list needs a) to spend some quality time studying the
SMTP RFCs and b) to step away from the keyboard /now/ as they are
clearly not competent to run a mail server on the Internet.

Thoroughly recommend using relaydb(1) to teach your mail system where
you've received spam from in the past and make sure it doesn't happen
again.  I've a cron job that processes the contents of my Junk
mailfolder through relaydb on a daily basis.

Cheers,

Matthew

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  Flat 3
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  Kent, CT11 9PW

 I also have been getting Delivery Status Notification(Failure)

about recipient's BlackBerry Handheld. But following that I also get

mail from the questions postmaster saying my emaill is spaming junk mail

and it has a zip file attached.

The email headers only have single hop to me. Looks like forged email.

Sender hoping i will unzip the file so it can install a Trojan. I just 
delete it.


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new sys/nlm since 6.4

[Robert Joosten]

Hi List,

some of the highlights of 6.4 (and I cite the announcement):
New and much-improved NFS Lock Manager (NLM) client.

Sounds great. My old nfs-box serving pxe clients is still at 6.3. Clients 
run 7.x and 8. 

On the clients run postfix, but having installed 8.0 on the nfs-server, 
postfix complains:

Apr 18 19:49:45 mostrd postfix/cleanup[805]: fatal: select lock: 
Permission denied

Further testing revealed: as of 6.4 something has changed. Trying to stuff 
in the old nfs, rpc.statd, etc etc into the 8.0 src proves 
to be not that simple (hah).

Now, what has been changed precisely ? All other things on the client run  
okay (yeah, well dovecot is in companion of postfix iirc. tested a few 
months ago).

Am I missing some magic knob ? Or are both postfix and dovecot 
handles to their locking plain wrong (now) and do I need to patch them.

Looking for some clue where to go now ;-)

Regards,
Robert
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Need recomendation on Laptop compatible with FreeBSD / PCBSD ?

[Rom Albuquerque]

 Hi folks. Can anyone recommend a laptop compatible with FreeBSD that doesn't 
require too much gymnastic to install the base system,   KDE and OpenOffice.. ?

Has anyone successfully installed the system on this one.  ? 

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5608152Sku=G180-15651

Your comments are greatly appreciated. 

Many thanks. 

--rom

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Re: about tcpdump

[marcus]

On Thursday 15 April 2010 22:16:45 Michael Hughes wrote:
 On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:37:09 +0300
 
 Yavuz Maşlak yavuz.mas...@netiletisim.net wrote:
  I have a network. I wish to log all incoming and outgoing trafficc
  using tcpdump on my gateway server. But I don't want to log these
  traffic's data because of they take up much on disk.
  I only want to log which ports were used, which ip addresses were
  reached. How can I do these using tcpdump ?
  Could you give me an example or docs?
  I use freebsd7.2
 
 Have you thought about using ARGUS (Audit Record Generation and
 Utilization System)?

tcpdump syntax for a specific host:

#tcpdump -i rl0 -n host 10.10.0.1

rl0 = interface
10.10.0.1 = your host

tcpdump syntax for a specific port:

#tcpdump -i rl0 -n port 22

22 = your port

However your questions is more about filtering data using shell scripts that 
tcpdump syntax. If you isn't mastered it, tool as ARGUS are a good choice.

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Re: about tcpdump

[marcus]

On Thursday 15 April 2010 22:16:45 Michael Hughes wrote:
 On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:37:09 +0300
 
 Yavuz Maşlak yavuz.mas...@netiletisim.net wrote:
  I have a network. I wish to log all incoming and outgoing trafficc
  using tcpdump on my gateway server. But I don't want to log these
  traffic's data because of they take up much on disk.
  I only want to log which ports were used, which ip addresses were
  reached. How can I do these using tcpdump ?
  Could you give me an example or docs?
  I use freebsd7.2
 
 Have you thought about using ARGUS (Audit Record Generation and
 Utilization System)?

tcpdump syntax for a specific host:

#tcpdump -i rl0 -n host 10.10.0.1

rl0 = interface
10.10.0.1 = your host

tcpdump syntax for a specific port:

#tcpdump -i rl0 -n port 22

22 = your port

However your questions is more about filtering data using shell scripts that 
tcpdump syntax. If you isn't mastered it, tool as ARGUS are a good choice.

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Disabling DNS

[peter]

I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to provide DNS for a 
handful of domain names and a small network.  All DNS is now provided by new 
machines.  On the old machine, DNS starts when the machine boots, and bind 
continues to run lots of useless named and named-xfer processes throughout the 
day.  How do I turn off the DNS processes on the old machine and stop it from 
starting every time the machine boots?  







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Re: 7.1 and wireless with ural

[Alberto Mijares]

 And in my rc.conf I have this defined:
 ifconfig_ural0=wpa DHCP
 hostname=my.home.server



You must create a virtual interface (i.e. wlan0) and then configure it.

# ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ural0

Read man(5) rc.conf and the handbook for more information. You are
using FreeBSD 8, don't you?

Regards


Alberto Mijares
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Re: Disabling DNS

[Odhiambo Washington]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:31 PM, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:


 I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to provide DNS for a
 handful of domain names and a small network.  All DNS is now provided by new
 machines.  On the old machine, DNS starts when the machine boots, and bind
 continues to run lots of useless named and named-xfer processes throughout
 the day.  How do I turn off the DNS processes on the old machine and stop it
 from starting every time the machine boots?


Edit /etc/rc.conf and change the YES to NO on the line that says
named_enable=


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Re: Disabling DNS

[Alberto Mijares]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 7:01 AM,  pe...@vfemail.net wrote:

 I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to provide DNS for a 
 handful of domain names and a small network.  All DNS is now provided by new 
 machines.  On the old machine, DNS starts when the machine boots, and bind 
 continues to run lots of useless named and named-xfer processes throughout 
 the day.  How do I turn off the DNS processes on the old machine and stop it 
 from starting every time the machine boots?



Hi,

FreeBSD has an excelent documentation. Just reading the manual you
will know how to acomplish dummy sysadmin tasks like this.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/

Regards


Alberto Mijares
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Re: [SPURIOUS] Delivery Status Notification(Failure) (fwd)

[Ian Smith]

Hi all,

Thanks to our indefatiguable postmaster, who has suspended the bouncing 
account with suitable rousing about where bounces should be sent; to the 
envelope-sender, ie the list owner, rather than to individual posters.

cheers, Ian
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Re: Disabling DNS

[Michael Powell]

pe...@vfemail.net wrote:

 
 I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to provide DNS for
 a handful of domain names and a small network.  All DNS is now provided by
 new machines.  On the old machine, DNS starts when the machine boots, and
 bind continues to run lots of useless named and named-xfer processes
 throughout the day.  How do I turn off the DNS processes on the old
 machine and stop it from starting every time the machine boots?
 

Look for named_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf and change the YES to NO. 
This is for the standard built-in Bind. If some other way to start has been 
scripted manually, in say /etc/rc.local you'll need to look there. The third 
possibility is if some add on version from ports has been installed the 
start up script location should be in /usr/local/etc/rc.d - if this is the 
case and it utilizes the standard rc.subr startup system the first thing 
mentioned above should have taken care of it. If there is some other kind of 
manually created hard-coded script in /etc/local/etc/rc.d it will either 
need to be deleted or chmod to not execute.

-Mike
 


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Re: Kill via Cron...

[Randal L. Schwartz]

 mcoyles == mcoyles  mcoy...@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk writes:

mcoyles kill -9 

[from a post I made frequently in comp.unix.questions...]

No no no.  Don't use kill -9.

It doesn't give the process a chance to cleanly:

1) release IPC resources (shared memory, semaphores, message queues)

2) clean up temp files

3) inform its children that it is going away

4) reset its terminal characteristics

and so on and so on and so on.

Generally, send 15 (SIGTERM), and wait a second or two, and if that
doesn't work, send 2 (SIGINT), and if that doesn't work, send 1
(SIGHUP).  If that doesn't, REMOVE THE BINARY because the program is
badly behaved!

Don't use kill -9.  Don't bring out the combine harvester just to tidy
up the flower pot.


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buildkernel - is up to date

[oleg]

Hi freebsd users,
I am really hopeing that someone can assist me here.

# cd /usr/src
# make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
 'buildkernel' is up to date
#

The catalogue /usr/obj is absent. What reason is available?

Yours Oleg
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Re: Disabling DNS

[Jerry McAllister]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 08:03:34AM -0430, Alberto Mijares wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 7:01 AM,  pe...@vfemail.net wrote:
 
  I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to provide DNS for a 
  handful of domain names and a small network.  All DNS is now provided by 
  new machines.  On the old machine, DNS starts when the machine boots, and 
  bind continues to run lots of useless named and named-xfer processes 
  throughout the day.  How do I turn off the DNS processes on the old machine 
  and stop it from starting every time the machine boots?
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 FreeBSD has an excelent documentation. Just reading the manual you
 will know how to acomplish dummy sysadmin tasks like this.
 ^

Maybe you have a language problem, but this looks very much like
inappropriate response.   We do no call names on this list.  It
is unhelpful, unfriendly and non-professional.

jerry


 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/
 
 Regards
 
 
 Alberto Mijares
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Removing some buildworld modules.

[Demelier David]

Hi freebsd-questions@,

   I like to build only what I use, that's why I'm reading src.conf(5) and
   checking what I can remove but there are some modules which I don't know if
   the system use them itself (like the bpf device used by dhclient) so I don't
   know if I can remove them safely.

   The modules I wanted to remove are : WTIHOUT  _ACCT, _ATM, _BSNMP, _CTM,
   _FORTH, _GPIB, _IPX, _NCP.

   Do some of these are used by the system?

   Thanks for the help :).
   King regards.

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Re: Disabling DNS

[peter]

I can change named_enable=YES to named_enable=NO in the /etc/rc.conf file.  
Should I delete the following line from the /etc/rc.conf file that says:

 named_flags=-u bind -g bind

or is it fine to leave it?  

---

At 08:43 AM 4/20/2010, Michael Powell wrote:
pe...@vfemail.net wrote:

 
 I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to provide DNS for
 a handful of domain names and a small network.  All DNS is now provided by
 new machines.  On the old machine, DNS starts when the machine boots, and
 bind continues to run lots of useless named and named-xfer processes
 throughout the day.  How do I turn off the DNS processes on the old
 machine and stop it from starting every time the machine boots?
 

Look for named_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf and change the YES to NO. 
This is for the standard built-in Bind. If some other way to start has been 
scripted manually, in say /etc/rc.local you'll need to look there. The third 
possibility is if some add on version from ports has been installed the 
start up script location should be in /usr/local/etc/rc.d - if this is the 
case and it utilizes the standard rc.subr startup system the first thing 
mentioned above should have taken care of it. If there is some other kind of 
manually created hard-coded script in /etc/local/etc/rc.d it will either 
need to be deleted or chmod to not execute.

-Mike
 


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Re: Disabling DNS

[Leslie Jensen]

On 2010-04-20 15:41, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:


I can change named_enable=YES to named_enable=NO in the /etc/rc.conf file.  
Should I delete the following line from the /etc/rc.conf file that says:

  named_flags=-u bind -g bind

or is it fine to leave it?

---

At 08:43 AM 4/20/2010, Michael Powell wrote:

pe...@vfemail.net wrote:



I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to provide DNS for
a handful of domain names and a small network.  All DNS is now provided by
new machines.  On the old machine, DNS starts when the machine boots, and
bind continues to run lots of useless named and named-xfer processes
throughout the day.  How do I turn off the DNS processes on the old
machine and stop it from starting every time the machine boots?



Look for named_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf and change the YES to NO.
This is for the standard built-in Bind. If some other way to start has been
scripted manually, in say /etc/rc.local you'll need to look there. The third
possibility is if some add on version from ports has been installed the
start up script location should be in /usr/local/etc/rc.d - if this is the
case and it utilizes the standard rc.subr startup system the first thing
mentioned above should have taken care of it. If there is some other kind of
manually created hard-coded script in /etc/local/etc/rc.d it will either
need to be deleted or chmod to not execute.

-Mike



I would suggest that you remove both lines.

named is off by default in /etc/defaults/rc.conf

/Leslie


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Re: Disabling DNS

[Jerry McAllister]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 09:41:32AM -0400, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:

 
 I can change named_enable=YES to named_enable=NO in the /etc/rc.conf 
 file.  Should I delete the following line from the /etc/rc.conf file that 
 says:
 
  named_flags=-u bind -g bind
 
 or is it fine to leave it?  

You could comment them out and leave them there for future reference.

jerry



 
 ---
 
 At 08:43 AM 4/20/2010, Michael Powell wrote:
 pe...@vfemail.net wrote:
 
  
  I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to provide DNS for
  a handful of domain names and a small network.  All DNS is now provided by
  new machines.  On the old machine, DNS starts when the machine boots, and
  bind continues to run lots of useless named and named-xfer processes
  throughout the day.  How do I turn off the DNS processes on the old
  machine and stop it from starting every time the machine boots?
  
 
 Look for named_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf and change the YES to NO. 
 This is for the standard built-in Bind. If some other way to start has been 
 scripted manually, in say /etc/rc.local you'll need to look there. The third 
 possibility is if some add on version from ports has been installed the 
 start up script location should be in /usr/local/etc/rc.d - if this is the 
 case and it utilizes the standard rc.subr startup system the first thing 
 mentioned above should have taken care of it. If there is some other kind of 
 manually created hard-coded script in /etc/local/etc/rc.d it will either 
 need to be deleted or chmod to not execute.
 
 -Mike
  
 
 
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Record music now with Tunebite from your USB device

[Amir Farivar]

Hi ,

I hope you're well and I'm following up on my last email to share some
great news with you!

As of this week Rapid Solution is the first music and movie recording
software provider that allows for USB flash plug n' play capabilities, this
means that our software suite can now be installed on a USB drive and
available to user on any PC and anywhere the USB drive is plugged
into...personal, school, or work computers and without any installation
onto that PC?allowing for true on-demand entertainment.

As you know our software is perfect for helping users solve any DRM
problems, converting content for any device (iPhone, Android, MP3s, PSPs,
etc) and also a perfect tool to easily record music and movies from sites
such as YouTube, Netflix, Hulu and Spotify, Pandora, Last.fm, and all other
audio, video and video-on-demand site. 

I'd love to take some time and speak with you about writing an article
review about Tunebite and its capabilities and, for your convenience here
are a few YouTube videos to help outline Tunebite.  

Recording Content
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKeQB7aGaUw
 
Easy YouTube Downloader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhg_e51RNrE
 
Audio and Video Convert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cReXiZ6WqGQ

Please let me know if you have any questions and, as always, I'm here to
help.  Looking forward to your reply.

My Best,
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failure to login after upgrade to 7.3 STABLE

[Mike Barnard]

Hi,

I seem to have a strange problem. I cannot log into my system after
upgrading from 7.2 PRE-RELEASE to 7.3 STABLE. I get the following:

[m...@trinity](676) ssh m...@192.168.68.1
WARNING: RSA key found for host 192.168.68.1
in /home/mike/.ssh/known_hosts:11
RSA key fingerprint a3:04:ef:73:8d:0a:c4:bc:01:81:be:43:7f:9a:c5:e3.

The authenticity of host '192.168.68.1 (192.168.68.1)' can't be established
but keys of different type are already known for this host.
DSA key fingerprint is xx
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
Warning: Permanently added '192.168.68.1' (DSA) to the list of known hosts.
Password:
PTY allocation request failed on channel 0
Warning: no access to tty (Bad file descriptor).
Thus no job control in this shell.


The logs show me this:

Apr 20 17:20:41 test-server sshd[8710]: error: openpty: Resource temporarily
unavailable
Apr 20 17:20:41 test-server sshd[8718]: error: session_pty_req: session 0
alloc failed

This only happens with ssh. Any ideas...

Thanks

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Re: Question. Multi Boot

[Dánielisz László]

Actually you can find now some cheap HDDs so the safest way is to install 
BSD/Linux on a second one, but if you can't buy another HDD then backup all the 
important date and install BSD with bsd loader on your HDD, after making some 
free, unformatted space on it.




From: Kruppa, Peter Ulrich pukru...@googlemail.com
To: Jorge Biquez jbiq...@icsmx.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 6:50:04 PM
Subject: Re: Question. Multi Boot

Am 18.04.2010 18:10, schrieb Jorge Biquez:
 Hello all.
 I hope this question does not sound so stupid. I have read archives and do 
 gogled searches but would like , if possible, to hear comments based on 
 experience.
 
 I have a machine, pentium D 2.4mhz 2gb RAM, 160DD HD XP Pro. As I mentuioned 
 in other post I installed FreeBSD 7.3 under a virtual machine using vmware. 
 It works fine but seems it is too much for the machine since when I am 
 running it the machine is very slow. I have that FB installation running 
 without graphical interface since that's why I need then.
 
 Now I would like to have a graphical interface running to learn to use 
 eclipse and continue with my PHP/Mysql development learning. I know that if I 
 continue under VMware the windows machine will be even more slow so I decided 
 that I would have this machine running with a multi boot schema and choose 
 when to boot under FreeBSd, Windows and later with Linux (looking for a job 
 and in some companies asked me to have the basics of any distribution). The 
 most important is that I need to be able to continue having that actual 
 windows partition without loosing anything or changing anything.
 
 What do you think, based on experince, is the safest way to accomplish this?
Since Windows isn't very cooperative with other operating systems, leave it 
where it is, buy a second hard disk and install FreeBSD (and Linux) on it. The 
FreeBSD bootmanager will be able to boot Windows but Windows will not boot any 
FreeBSD or Linux.

Good Luck

Uli.


 Thanks in advance
 
 Jorge Biquez
 
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Re: Disabling DNS

[Michael Powell]

Leslie Jensen wrote:
 
 On 2010-04-20 15:41, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:

 I can change named_enable=YES to named_enable=NO in the /etc/rc.conf
 file.  Should I delete the following line from the /etc/rc.conf file that
 says:
[snip]
 
 
 I would suggest that you remove both lines.
 
 named is off by default in /etc/defaults/rc.conf
 

To expand a little. The defaults mentioned here reside in /etc/defaults. The 
files under /etc/defaults should not be edited or changed as they can get 
overwritten during upgrades. The file /etc/rc.conf is designed to contain 
overrides to alter or change the default behaviors. It is the one to edit, 
not the ones under /etc/defaults.

So yes, pretty much all of the suggestions will turn DNS off. You can safely 
delete the lines in /etc/rc.conf. Should you need to put them back in at 
some time in the future you can look these lines up in 
/etc/defaults/rc.conf, then edit /etc/rc.conf accordingly.

-Mike



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Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days

[Ion-Mihai Tetcu]

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:40:35 -0700
Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:38 PM,  freebsd-po...@coreland.ath.cx
 wrote:
  On 2010-04-20 02:14:20, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:
  A switch to use newer GMP version has been committed.
 
  I'm still investigating lang/gnat-gcc44.
 
  As far as I know, the gnat-gcc44 bootstrap binaries will be
  fine as they're bundled with the libgmp library that was used
  to build them. Whether gcc builds with the newer libgmp remains
  to be seen...
 
 As discussed in the QAT emails, it might be related to ccache use
 on the build cluster graciously donated by ixSystems, and the fact
 that the cached data is inconsistently distributed across the cluster.

ATM no, the new cluster is in works, not yet used, QAT is running on a
single machine, with ccache.

 I've provided some tips for itetcu to work around this on IRC
 (basically disable ccache), but it kind of sucks when you run into
 periodic issues with toolchain variance like this, s.t. building with
 NO_CACHE=yes is a necessary evil to work through end-to-end build
 functional issues. 

Problem is I need an automated solution.
I'm testing it now on QAT with ccache disabled.

 Someone else who knows more about ccache could provide a better
 explanation of what's going on because my ranting about this would
 only be me talking out of my rear :).

Yes, please.

 More info about ccache with FreeBSD can be found here:
 http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-174.html

Thanks.


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Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days

[Ion-Mihai Tetcu]

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:14:28 +0300
Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org wrote:

  I've provided some tips for itetcu to work around this on IRC
  (basically disable ccache), but it kind of sucks when you run into
  periodic issues with toolchain variance like this, s.t. building
  with NO_CACHE=yes is a necessary evil to work through end-to-end
  build functional issues.   
 
 Problem is I need an automated solution.
 I'm testing it now on QAT with ccache disabled.

Same error.

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Re: Disabling DNS

[peter]

Super!  Thank you.  

---

At 11:40 AM 4/20/2010, Michael Powell wrote:
Leslie Jensen wrote:
 
 On 2010-04-20 15:41, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:

 I can change named_enable=YES to named_enable=NO in the /etc/rc.conf
 file.  Should I delete the following line from the /etc/rc.conf file that
 says:
[snip]
 
 
 I would suggest that you remove both lines.
 
 named is off by default in /etc/defaults/rc.conf
 

To expand a little. The defaults mentioned here reside in /etc/defaults. The 
files under /etc/defaults should not be edited or changed as they can get 
overwritten during upgrades. The file /etc/rc.conf is designed to contain 
overrides to alter or change the default behaviors. It is the one to edit, 
not the ones under /etc/defaults.

So yes, pretty much all of the suggestions will turn DNS off. You can safely 
delete the lines in /etc/rc.conf. Should you need to put them back in at 
some time in the future you can look these lines up in 
/etc/defaults/rc.conf, then edit /etc/rc.conf accordingly.

-Mike



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[OT] Was: Disabling DNS

[Alberto Mijares]

  I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to provide DNS for 
  a handful of domain names and a small network.  All DNS is now provided by 
  new machines.  On the old machine, DNS starts when the machine boots, and 
  bind continues to run lots of useless named and named-xfer processes 
  throughout the day.  How do I turn off the DNS processes on the old 
  machine and stop it from starting every time the machine boots?



 Hi,

 FreeBSD has an excelent documentation. Just reading the manual you
 will know how to acomplish dummy sysadmin tasks like this.
                             ^

 Maybe you have a language problem, but this looks very much like
 inappropriate response.   We do no call names on this list.  It
 is unhelpful, unfriendly and non-professional.

 jerry


When you give a specific answer, you are just giving that: one single
answer. When you give the source of this answer instead, you are
giving many answers at once. Now, it's obvious that the OP hasn't read
the handbook ever and I think he didn't try, at least, a google search
before asking this question. So, why is it inappropiate, unhelpful,
unfriendly or non-professional my advise? Ain't it a tacit rule in
every list to do some research before asking help?

Just in case, I made a search of every word I used in a dictionary;
and no offensive nor annoying meaning was found (OK, I misstyped
accomplish, sorry about that. My native language is spanish).

Please let me know if I'm missing something else.

Regards


Alberto Mijares
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Re: [OT] Was: Disabling DNS

[Bill Moran]

In response to Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com:

   I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to provide DNS 
   for a handful of domain names and a small network.  All DNS is now 
   provided by new machines.  On the old machine, DNS starts when the 
   machine boots, and bind continues to run lots of useless named and 
   named-xfer processes throughout the day.  How do I turn off the DNS 
   processes on the old machine and stop it from starting every time the 
   machine boots?
  Hi,
 
  FreeBSD has an excelent documentation. Just reading the manual you
  will know how to acomplish dummy sysadmin tasks like this.
                              ^
  Maybe you have a language problem, but this looks very much like
  inappropriate response.   We do no call names on this list.  It
  is unhelpful, unfriendly and non-professional.
 
  jerry
 
 When you give a specific answer, you are just giving that: one single
 answer. When you give the source of this answer instead, you are
 giving many answers at once. Now, it's obvious that the OP hasn't read
 the handbook ever and I think he didn't try, at least, a google search
 before asking this question. So, why is it inappropiate, unhelpful,
 unfriendly or non-professional my advise? Ain't it a tacit rule in
 every list to do some research before asking help?
 
 Just in case, I made a search of every word I used in a dictionary;
 and no offensive nor annoying meaning was found (OK, I misstyped
 accomplish, sorry about that. My native language is spanish).
 
 Please let me know if I'm missing something else.

I suspect that jerry had a problem with the use of dummy, which is
generally considered an insult when directed at a person.  I.e.  You're
being a dummy. is an insult.

Since your use of the term was associated with the task and not the
individual, the whole thing enters a grey area of interpretation.  Some
might consider the sentence an insult, others might simply consider
the use of dummy task as another way to say beginner task or
basic task.

In any event, it's my experience that if you spend time on the Internet,
you will eventually end up offending someone.  Just apologize for any
misunderstanding and move on.

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Re: [OT] Was: Disabling DNS

[Alberto Mijares]

 I suspect that jerry had a problem with the use of dummy, which is
 generally considered an insult when directed at a person.  I.e.  You're
 being a dummy. is an insult.

 Since your use of the term was associated with the task and not the
 individual, the whole thing enters a grey area of interpretation.  Some
 might consider the sentence an insult, others might simply consider
 the use of dummy task as another way to say beginner task or
 basic task.


Hhmmm... I see. Of course I'm referring to the task in this way, not the person.


 In any event, it's my experience that if you spend time on the Internet,
 you will eventually end up offending someone.  Just apologize for any
 misunderstanding and move on.


I apologize for any misunderstanding.

Thank you for your time, Bill.

Regards


Alberto Mijares
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Re: Request for mount_nfs assistance

[peter]

I deleted the unnecessary line from the /etc/exports file and rebooted both 
machines.  Connecting from the client to the server using an /sbin/mount_nfs 
192.168.0.244:/usr/home1 /home1 command took forever . . . well, somewhere 
between a half-hour and an hour.  It used to be speedy.  Nothing mount-related 
has been logged in either server's /var/log/messages file.  

I'm at a loss to know where to start to track down what's causing the slow 
connection.  

--

At 03:42 AM 4/20/2010, Jon Mercer wrote:
Peter,

The two lines shouldn't create a conflict, but it would seem to me to be
more normal to append the second IP after the first, e.g.:

/usr/home1  -maproot=root   192.168.0.252, 192.168.0.253

On the other hand, if the 253 machine doesn't need access it would be wise
to remove the second line altogether and reduce any potential attack arising
from that machine on the mount.

Have you checked /var/log/messages and any other files to see why the server
(maybe) didn't start after the last reboot? That could prevent any
recurrence.

Jon

On 19 April 2010 17:48, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:


 192.168.0.244's /etc/exports file says:

 /usr/home1  -maproot=root   192.168.0.252
 /usr/home1  -maproot=root   192.168.0.253

 192.168.0.252 is the machine that should have access to 192.168.0.244's
 drive, but was having difficulty obtaining it.  I'm kind of surprised to see
 the entry for 192.168.0.253, because I don't think that machine has any need
 for access to the drive.

 Do these two entires in the /etc/exports file create a conflict?

 I don't believe there were any recent network-related changes.

 ---

 At 12:00 PM 4/19/2010, Jon Mercer wrote:
 What information is contained in the /etc/exports file on the NFS server?
 If
 that changed between NFS Server restarts that _could_ be the cause.
 
 Also, has there been any simultaneous change in the network across which
 the
 servers speak? Especially with regard to port 111.
 
 
 
 On 19 April 2010 15:38, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:
 
 
  I have two servers funning FreeBSD.  For the past four years, an:
 
 /sbin/mount_nfs 192.168.0.244:/usr/home1 /home1
 
  command has successfully allowed one server access to data on the other
  server's hard drive.
 
  This morning, following reboots of both servers, the mount_nsf command
  fails, returns:
 
 192.168.0.244:/usr/home1: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Timed out
 
  error messages.
 
  Each server can ping the other and connect via ssh; the hardware's
 working
  fine; I don't believe anything's changed on either server recently; and
 the
  find command doesn't indicate that any system files have been altered in
 the
  past week.
 
  I'm at a complete loss for any explanation of the failure, and I'm
  uncertain how to diagnose and fix the problem.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Need recomendation on Laptop compatible with FreeBSD / PCBSD ?

[Roland Smith]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:25:38AM +, Rom Albuquerque wrote:
 
 
  Hi folks. Can anyone recommend a laptop compatible with FreeBSD that
  doesn't require too much gymnastic to install the base system, KDE and
  OpenOffice.. ?

My advice would be to take a FreeBSD liveCD to a store and ask if you can try
to boot the laptop you want from the CD. That's virtually the only way to know
for sure that things will work.

If they don't cooperate, take your business elsewhere. In my experience, a
smaller local computer shop will probably be more interested in helping you 
than a
large retailer.

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Re: [OT] Was: Disabling DNS

[Jerry McAllister]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:48:46PM -0430, Alberto Mijares wrote:

   I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to provide DNS 
   for a handful of domain names and a small network.  All DNS is now 
   provided by new machines.  On the old machine, DNS starts when the 
   machine boots, and bind continues to run lots of useless named and 
   named-xfer processes throughout the day.  How do I turn off the DNS 
   processes on the old machine and stop it from starting every time the 
   machine boots?
 
 
 
  Hi,
 
  FreeBSD has an excelent documentation. Just reading the manual you
  will know how to acomplish dummy sysadmin tasks like this.
                              ^
 
  Maybe you have a language problem, but this looks very much like
  inappropriate response.   We do no call names on this list.  It
  is unhelpful, unfriendly and non-professional.
 
  jerry
 
 
 When you give a specific answer, you are just giving that: one single
 answer. When you give the source of this answer instead, you are
 giving many answers at once. Now, it's obvious that the OP hasn't read
 the handbook ever and I think he didn't try, at least, a google search
 before asking this question. So, why is it inappropiate, unhelpful,
 unfriendly or non-professional my advise? Ain't it a tacit rule in
 every list to do some research before asking help?
 
 Just in case, I made a search of every word I used in a dictionary;
 and no offensive nor annoying meaning was found (OK, I misstyped
 accomplish, sorry about that. My native language is spanish).

A person needs to be encouraged to read the documentation but
should not be called a dummy.I suppose you might have had
a different intent for the use of that word which is why I mentioned
the possibility of having a language problem.But, it appeared
in the text that you were calling the person stupid and that is
inappropriate for postings to this list.   We avoid personal attacks.

jerry


 
 Please let me know if I'm missing something else.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Alberto Mijares
 
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Re: Questions about port revision numbers, portsnap, csup

[Joe Auty]

Greg Larkin wrote:
 Joe Auty wrote:
  Greg Larkin wrote:
  John Levine wrote:
  I have the same problem, recently upgraded to PHP 5.3.2 and Apache
  was crashing whenever I tried to use a mediawiki page until I
 commented
  out the apc library.  (Apache is 2.0, Freebsd is still 7.0, if that
  matters.)
  cd /usr/ports
  fetch http://people.freebsd.org/~glarkin/diffs/pecl-APC-3.1.3p1.diff
  patch  pecl-APC-3.1.3p1.diff
  Didn't work, because pecl-APC is www/pecl-APC, not devel/pecl-APC.  I
  edited the patch to be www/ rather than devel/ at which point the
  patch applied but make failed due to one of the other patches:
  Hi John,
 
  Sorry about that bit - I'll check my local development environment.
 
  ===  Patching for pecl-APC-3.1.3.p1
  ===  Applying FreeBSD patches for pecl-APC-3.1.3.p1
  1 out of 2 hunks failed--saving rejects to apc_sem.c.rej
  = Patch patch-apc_sem.c failed to apply cleanly.
  *** Error code 1
  Please run the other commands in my email to move those now-obsolete
  patch files out of the way:
 
  mkdir /usr/ports/devel/pecl-APC/files/save-patches
  mv /usr/ports/devel/pecl-APC/files/patch-*  \
  /usr/ports/devel/pecl-APC/files/save-patches
 
  Regards,
  Greg
  I just did a search/replace of devel-www in Greg's patch...

  It downloaded the beta, but I have compile errors now. Isn't pcre
  supposed to be built into PHP 5.3 now?

  In file included from
 /usr/ports/www/pecl-APC/work/APC-3.1.3p1/apc.c:43:
  /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:29:18: error: pcre.h: No
  such file or directory
  In file included from
 /usr/ports/www/pecl-APC/work/APC-3.1.3p1/apc.c:43:
  /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:37: error: expected '=',
  ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token

 Hi Joe,

 PCRE problems are very common after upgrading to 5.3.2.  ale@ added an
 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING that recommends uninstalling all
 PHP-related ports and recompiling, IIRC.  That's the best way to clean
 out all remnants of the php5-pcre port.


Yeah, I saw that notice and I've actually done this already... Perhaps I
missed something, although why would the older version compile before
applying this patch?


 Regards,
 Greg

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Re: Kill via Cron...

[Karl Vogel]

 On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:52:58 +0100, 
 mcoyles mcoy...@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk said:

M kill -9 `ps ax | grep backup | grep -v grep | awk '{print $1}'`

   I've typed ps ax | grep something | grep -v grep often enough to
   automate it.  The psax script below accepts an optional egrep-style
   regex and displays only the matching processes.

   You can make your life easier by using process groups more often.
   For example, in the comments below there are four separate httpd
   processes in the same process group.  If I wanted to kill them all,
   I could send HUP to PGID 198 instead of using four kill commands.

   There's a perl version of kill included in Perl power tools.  I made
   some minor changes to use process groups instead:
 http://www.pobox.com/~vogelke/src/toolbox/perl/killpg.txt

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#!/bin/sh
#psax: runs ps, looks for an optional egrep regex (BSD version).
#
# me% psax 'super|http'
#   USERPID  PPID  PGID  RSZ  TT  STARTED TIME COMMAND
#   root198 1   198 1384  ??  11Jul09  7:53.76 /path/to/httpd -DSSL
#   www 252   198   198 1976  ??  11Jul09  0:44.96 /path/to/httpd -DSSL
#   www 253   198   198 1992  ??  11Jul09  0:47.81 /path/to/httpd -DSSL
#   www   54291   198   198 1992  ??  13Jul09  0:47.78 /path/to/httpd -DSSL
#   root  92729   204 8  304  ??  25Feb10  0:01.25 supervise qmail-send
#   root  92730   204 8  300  ??  25Feb10  0:01.40 supervise log
#   root  92731   204 8  304  ??  25Feb10  0:01.04 supervise qmail-smtpd
#   root  92732   204 8  300  ??  25Feb10  0:01.16 supervise log

PATH=/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
export PATH
umask 022

# Solaris: ps -cef -o user,pid,pgid,class,pri,rss,time,args
# Linux:   ps ax -o user,pid,pgid,rss,start,bsdtime,args
cmd=ps -axw -o user,pid,ppid,pgid,rsz,tt,start,time,command

case $# in
0)  exec $cmd ;;
*)  exec $cmd | egrep COMMAND|$* | egrep -v egrep|/bin/sh $0 ;;
esac

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Re: Questions about port revision numbers, portsnap, csup

[Greg Larkin]

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Joe Auty wrote:
 Greg Larkin wrote:
 Joe Auty wrote:
 Greg Larkin wrote:
 John Levine wrote:
 I have the same problem, recently upgraded to PHP 5.3.2 and Apache
 was crashing whenever I tried to use a mediawiki page until I
 commented
 out the apc library.  (Apache is 2.0, Freebsd is still 7.0, if that
 matters.)
 cd /usr/ports
 fetch http://people.freebsd.org/~glarkin/diffs/pecl-APC-3.1.3p1.diff
 patch  pecl-APC-3.1.3p1.diff
 Didn't work, because pecl-APC is www/pecl-APC, not devel/pecl-APC.  I
 edited the patch to be www/ rather than devel/ at which point the
 patch applied but make failed due to one of the other patches:
 Hi John,

 Sorry about that bit - I'll check my local development environment.

 ===  Patching for pecl-APC-3.1.3.p1
 ===  Applying FreeBSD patches for pecl-APC-3.1.3.p1
 1 out of 2 hunks failed--saving rejects to apc_sem.c.rej
 = Patch patch-apc_sem.c failed to apply cleanly.
 *** Error code 1
 Please run the other commands in my email to move those now-obsolete
 patch files out of the way:

 mkdir /usr/ports/devel/pecl-APC/files/save-patches
 mv /usr/ports/devel/pecl-APC/files/patch-*  \
 /usr/ports/devel/pecl-APC/files/save-patches

 Regards,
 Greg
 I just did a search/replace of devel-www in Greg's patch...
 It downloaded the beta, but I have compile errors now. Isn't pcre
 supposed to be built into PHP 5.3 now?
 In file included from
 /usr/ports/www/pecl-APC/work/APC-3.1.3p1/apc.c:43:
 /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:29:18: error: pcre.h: No
 such file or directory
 In file included from
 /usr/ports/www/pecl-APC/work/APC-3.1.3p1/apc.c:43:
 /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:37: error: expected '=',
 ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token
 Hi Joe,

 PCRE problems are very common after upgrading to 5.3.2.  ale@ added an
 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING that recommends uninstalling all
 PHP-related ports and recompiling, IIRC.  That's the best way to clean
 out all remnants of the php5-pcre port.

 
 Yeah, I saw that notice and I've actually done this already... Perhaps I
 missed something, although why would the older version compile before
 applying this patch?

Hi Joe,

My apologies, I went down the wrong path while troubleshooting that
error message.  I later reproduced the same compiler error here and then
committed a fix for it.  If you refresh your ports tree again to get the
latest version of www/pecl-APC, you should be all set.  Let me know if
you run into any problems after that.

Thank you,
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Re: Questions about port revision numbers, portsnap, csup

[Joe Auty]

Greg,

After applying the update (which I noticed was available immediately
after my last response to you, sorry about that!), everything is just
peachy now, or at least not causing the segfaults, thanks!

Not to sound unappreciative and purely in the spirit of being
constructive, I'd suggest a little more specificity as far as what a
break is on the commit history. This goofy title was created because
it didn't occur to me that the break fix committed on April 12 was only
for compilation. I would suggest specifying whether the break and the
fix is for compiling, or for the software to work properly
post-compilation. This would have saved me a little confusion and time.


Again, you kick ass, in no way do I want this to sound harshly critical,
I hope this can be taken as purely constructive :)

Thanks again for your help with this fix!

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Re: 7.1 and wireless with ural

[Harry Matthiesen Jensen]

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 08:43:18PM -0400, Bobby Walker wrote:
 
 Hey list, I've searched and searched for a solution to this problem and I 
 can't find one.
  
 I've got the wireless nic setup, its a Linksys WUSB54G v2.
  

I have a Linksys WUSB54GC, and use the rum driver, check out the man
page, man rum..., the WUSB54G is mentioned here as well..
..it works like a dream on my 8.0-STABLE system

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Re: Questions about port revision numbers, portsnap, csup

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Joe Auty wrote:
 Greg,
 
 After applying the update (which I noticed was available immediately
 after my last response to you, sorry about that!), everything is just
 peachy now, or at least not causing the segfaults, thanks!
 
 Not to sound unappreciative and purely in the spirit of being
 constructive, I'd suggest a little more specificity as far as what a
 break is on the commit history. This goofy title was created because
 it didn't occur to me that the break fix committed on April 12 was only
 for compilation. I would suggest specifying whether the break and the
 fix is for compiling, or for the software to work properly
 post-compilation. This would have saved me a little confusion and time.
 
 
 Again, you kick ass, in no way do I want this to sound harshly critical,
 I hope this can be taken as purely constructive :)
 
 Thanks again for your help with this fix!
 

Hi Joe,

Great, I'm glad to hear that's working for you now.  I do appreciate
your input, re: commit logs.  Unbreak is too nebulous, and I'll plan
to add further info like fixed compiler error in the future.

I admit we were in a bit of a rush to get various PHP modules building
again after the PHP 5.3.2 update, and I somehow missed the fact that
this one supported 5.3.2 with a new release of itself. I think I'll be
better prepared for this kind of thing in the future!

Regards,
Greg
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How can I confirm proper chroot ?

[George Sanders]

Hello,

I am using a particular program that has a command line option to chroot to 
the current directory.

But I would like to make sure ... I want to be sure what directory the 
executable is actually rooted in.

How can I do this ?  Perhaps with lsof ?

I don't see any information from the 'ps' output that would give me definitive 
information:

nobody   96074  0.0  0.1  8804  3896  ??  Ss   11:16AM   0:00.01 
/usr/local/sbin/thttpd -d /htdocs -r -l /dev/null

So I'd like some independent confirmation of where this running program is 
actually rooted...

Thanks.


  

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Re: Kill via Cron...

[Randal L. Schwartz]

 Karl == Karl Vogel voge...@hcst.com writes:

 On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:52:58 +0100, 
 mcoyles mcoy...@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk said:

M kill -9 `ps ax | grep backup | grep -v grep | awk '{print $1}'`

And you don't have to remember grep -v grep if you remember
to use ps axc (note the c), since arguments won't show up so the
arguments to grep won't generate a false positive.

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Re: Kill via Cron...

[George Davidovich]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:57:25PM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
 Karl == Karl Vogel voge...@hcst.com writes:
 
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:52:58 +0100, 
mcoyles mcoy...@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk said:
 
 M kill -9 `ps ax | grep backup | grep -v grep | awk '{print $1}'`
 
 And you don't have to remember grep -v grep if you remember
 to use ps axc (note the c), since arguments won't show up so the
 arguments to grep won't generate a false positive.

Alternatively:

  ps ax | grep [b]ackup | awk '{print $1}'

Or to avoid being nominated for something like the Useless Use of Cat
award:

  ps ax | awk '/[b]ackup/ {print $1}'

Making use pgrep/pkill would seem to make the most sense.

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Re: [OT] Was: Disabling DNS

[Jorge Biquez]

Hello all.

My English is not perfect at all since it is not my native language. 
With that in mind I read the comments about the dummy word, 
interpreted as a basic task, simple task In th eeffort of 
learning... can you explain why you considered the comments 
unfriendly and non-professional?


Thanks in advance

Jorge Biquez


At 12:30 p.m. 20/04/2010, you wrote:

In response to Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com:

   I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to 
provide DNS for a handful of domain names and a small network.  All 
DNS is now provided by new machines.  On the old machine, DNS 
starts when the machine boots, and bind continues to run lots of 
useless named and named-xfer processes throughout the day.  How do 
I turn off the DNS processes on the old machine and stop it from 
starting every time the machine boots?

  Hi,
 
  FreeBSD has an excelent documentation. Just reading the manual you
  will know how to acomplish dummy sysadmin tasks like this.
  ^
  Maybe you have a language problem, but this looks very much like
  inappropriate response.   We do no call names on this list.  It
  is unhelpful, unfriendly and non-professional.
 
  jerry

 When you give a specific answer, you are just giving that: one single
 answer. When you give the source of this answer instead, you are
 giving many answers at once. Now, it's obvious that the OP hasn't read
 the handbook ever and I think he didn't try, at least, a google search
 before asking this question. So, why is it inappropiate, unhelpful,
 unfriendly or non-professional my advise? Ain't it a tacit rule in
 every list to do some research before asking help?

 Just in case, I made a search of every word I used in a dictionary;
 and no offensive nor annoying meaning was found (OK, I misstyped
 accomplish, sorry about that. My native language is spanish).

 Please let me know if I'm missing something else.

I suspect that jerry had a problem with the use of dummy, which is
generally considered an insult when directed at a person.  I.e.  You're
being a dummy. is an insult.

Since your use of the term was associated with the task and not the
individual, the whole thing enters a grey area of interpretation.  Some
might consider the sentence an insult, others might simply consider
the use of dummy task as another way to say beginner task or
basic task.

In any event, it's my experience that if you spend time on the Internet,
you will eventually end up offending someone.  Just apologize for any
misunderstanding and move on.

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Re: Request for mount_nfs assistance

[Jon Mercer]

Do you have anything relating to RPC connections inbound on the server logs?

It may also be time to look at which version of FBSD you are running.

On 20 April 2010 19:06, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:


 I deleted the unnecessary line from the /etc/exports file and rebooted both
 machines.  Connecting from the client to the server using an
 /sbin/mount_nfs 192.168.0.244:/usr/home1 /home1 command took forever . .
 . well, somewhere between a half-hour and an hour.  It used to be speedy.
  Nothing mount-related has been logged in either server's /var/log/messages
 file.

 I'm at a loss to know where to start to track down what's causing the slow
 connection.

 --

 At 03:42 AM 4/20/2010, Jon Mercer wrote:
 Peter,
 
 The two lines shouldn't create a conflict, but it would seem to me to be
 more normal to append the second IP after the first, e.g.:
 
 /usr/home1  -maproot=root   192.168.0.252, 192.168.0.253
 
 On the other hand, if the 253 machine doesn't need access it would be wise
 to remove the second line altogether and reduce any potential attack
 arising
 from that machine on the mount.
 
 Have you checked /var/log/messages and any other files to see why the
 server
 (maybe) didn't start after the last reboot? That could prevent any
 recurrence.
 
 Jon
 
 On 19 April 2010 17:48, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:
 
 
  192.168.0.244's /etc/exports file says:
 
  /usr/home1  -maproot=root   192.168.0.252
  /usr/home1  -maproot=root   192.168.0.253
 
  192.168.0.252 is the machine that should have access to 192.168.0.244's
  drive, but was having difficulty obtaining it.  I'm kind of surprised to
 see
  the entry for 192.168.0.253, because I don't think that machine has any
 need
  for access to the drive.
 
  Do these two entires in the /etc/exports file create a conflict?
 
  I don't believe there were any recent network-related changes.
 
  ---
 
  At 12:00 PM 4/19/2010, Jon Mercer wrote:
  What information is contained in the /etc/exports file on the NFS
 server?
  If
  that changed between NFS Server restarts that _could_ be the cause.
  
  Also, has there been any simultaneous change in the network across
 which
  the
  servers speak? Especially with regard to port 111.
  
  
  
  On 19 April 2010 15:38, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:
  
  
   I have two servers funning FreeBSD.  For the past four years, an:
  
  /sbin/mount_nfs 192.168.0.244:/usr/home1 /home1
  
   command has successfully allowed one server access to data on the
 other
   server's hard drive.
  
   This morning, following reboots of both servers, the mount_nsf
 command
   fails, returns:
  
  192.168.0.244:/usr/home1: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Timed out
  
   error messages.
  
   Each server can ping the other and connect via ssh; the hardware's
  working
   fine; I don't believe anything's changed on either server recently;
 and
  the
   find command doesn't indicate that any system files have been altered
 in
  the
   past week.
  
   I'm at a complete loss for any explanation of the failure, and I'm
   uncertain how to diagnose and fix the problem.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [OT] Was: Disabling DNS

[Sergio Tam]

2010/4/20 Jorge Biquez jbiq...@icsmx.com:
 Hello all.

 My English is not perfect at all since it is not my native language. With
 that in mind I read the comments about the dummy word, interpreted as a
 basic task, simple task In th eeffort of learning... can you explain why
 you considered the comments unfriendly and non-professional?



dummy= idiot stupid retard moron dumb dumbass fool loser jerk jackass
asshole dork imbecile ass dunce slow tard ignorant silly dolt lame
retarded hyphy douchebag simpleton slut cretin bitch crazy dickhead
gay dipshit douche fag fucktard ignoramus dumbo dimwit dope dodo
blockhead doofus dumbbell dunderhead tool nitwit dullard foolish fat
annoying
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Re: are the are C [or C++] src sites ....

[Robert Bonomi]

 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Mon Apr 12 21:05:40 2010
 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:05:04 -0700
 From: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org
 To: Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org
 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: are the are C [or C++] src sites 

 On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:34:32PM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote:
  On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
  

   [[ ... ]]

  
  When you install a lib in FBSD (and many other FLOSS OSs) it usually
  installs a man page, so apropos and of course man will have it: man
  sprintf, so the detailed information is usually there...
  
  The tricky part is having like a table of contents of some sort
  especially at the library level which is what _I think_ you are
  referring to. For example, to answer the question ¿what library should
  I use for X or Y need? . If you use Perl, you have the cpan search
  engine (and others) wher you go llook for libs. For C it is many times
  not tha obvious, nor is there a single repository of libraries for C
  as there is for say Perl.

If you find the approrpirate/relevant manpage, it _usually_ lists the
library or libraries that must be linked in with code that uses the function(s)
in question.

One has to remember that manpages are _reference_ documentation, *NOT* 
'teaching guides'.

For figuring out what's where on a grand scale, the libraries live in a
handful of standard places -- exactly where they are depends on the O/S
varient's filesystem structure, They're almost *always* in a directory 
named 'lib', for sure there's one under /usr, probably /usr/local, 
possibly /usr/share, /usr/contrib, or /usr/opt, plus one under whatever
point the X windows stuff is hiding.  Running 'nm' on each of the 
'lib{mumble}.a' files in each of those 'lib' directories, with a little
judicious postprocessing of the 'nm' output, will give you a list of the
'user callable' functions in each library.

When you find a function listed in the 'nm' output, and there is -not- any
manpage for function, you've found a manpage that 'needs to be written'.
Go to it!!grin



Note to _ALL_ library documentation maintainers:  there -should- be a manpage
named after the _library_, that indexes the functions therein.  See the
curses(3) manpage for a _minimal_ example. (it needs som fleshing out of the
parameter sequences for vairous functions, and a minimal description of what
the various parameters -are-, all the curses functions work with a very
limited set of parameter types, -one- description of the types, before or
after all function lines, is sufficient. 

Note to 'curses' documentation maintainers:  the curses(3) manage is great,
*but* there needs to be 'stub' pages for _every_one_ of the 'curses' functions
as well -- they can consist of just a 'link' to the curses(3) page, so that 
_it_ displays, if you do 'man delch', for example.  The _reason_ for doing 
this is so that the function name, and one-line description, are indexed for 
apropos(1), and similar tools.  The curses(3) manpage needs some fleshing out,
per above.  The curses manpage is also _missing_ the standard ERRORS section.

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Re: [OT] Was: Disabling DNS

[Vincent Hoffman]

Hi Jorge,
While the term dummy has been used in the sense of basic or
beginner (for instance the for dummies series of books,) The most
common context means stupid, or silly and has negative connotations for
the person referred to.

Vince


On 20/04/2010 20:48, Jorge Biquez wrote:
 Hello all.

 My English is not perfect at all since it is not my native language.
 With that in mind I read the comments about the dummy word,
 interpreted as a basic task, simple task In th eeffort of
 learning... can you explain why you considered the comments unfriendly
 and non-professional?

 Thanks in advance

 Jorge Biquez


 At 12:30 p.m. 20/04/2010, you wrote:
 In response to Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com:

I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to
 provide DNS for a handful of domain names and a small network.  All
 DNS is now provided by new machines.  On the old machine, DNS starts
 when the machine boots, and bind continues to run lots of useless
 named and named-xfer processes throughout the day.  How do I turn off
 the DNS processes on the old machine and stop it from starting every
 time the machine boots?
   Hi,
  
   FreeBSD has an excelent documentation. Just reading the manual you
   will know how to acomplish dummy sysadmin tasks like this.
   ^
   Maybe you have a language problem, but this looks very much like
   inappropriate response.   We do no call names on this list.  It
   is unhelpful, unfriendly and non-professional.
  
   jerry
 
  When you give a specific answer, you are just giving that: one single
  answer. When you give the source of this answer instead, you are
  giving many answers at once. Now, it's obvious that the OP hasn't read
  the handbook ever and I think he didn't try, at least, a google search
  before asking this question. So, why is it inappropiate, unhelpful,
  unfriendly or non-professional my advise? Ain't it a tacit rule in
  every list to do some research before asking help?
 
  Just in case, I made a search of every word I used in a dictionary;
  and no offensive nor annoying meaning was found (OK, I misstyped
  accomplish, sorry about that. My native language is spanish).
 
  Please let me know if I'm missing something else.

 I suspect that jerry had a problem with the use of dummy, which is
 generally considered an insult when directed at a person.  I.e.  You're
 being a dummy. is an insult.

 Since your use of the term was associated with the task and not the
 individual, the whole thing enters a grey area of interpretation.  Some
 might consider the sentence an insult, others might simply consider
 the use of dummy task as another way to say beginner task or
 basic task.

 In any event, it's my experience that if you spend time on the Internet,
 you will eventually end up offending someone.  Just apologize for any
 misunderstanding and move on.

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Re: [OT] Was: Disabling DNS

[Jorge Biquez]

Hello all.

My English is not perfect at all since it is not my native language. 
With that in mind I read the comments about the dummy word, 
interpreted as a basic task, simple task In th eeffort of 
learning... can you explain why you considered the comments 
unfriendly and non-professional?


Thanks in advance

Jorge Biquez


At 12:30 p.m. 20/04/2010, you wrote:

In response to Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com:

   I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to 
provide DNS for a handful of domain names and a small network.  All 
DNS is now provided by new machines.  On the old machine, DNS 
starts when the machine boots, and bind continues to run lots of 
useless named and named-xfer processes throughout the day.  How do 
I turn off the DNS processes on the old machine and stop it from 
starting every time the machine boots?

  Hi,
 
  FreeBSD has an excelent documentation. Just reading the manual you
  will know how to acomplish dummy sysadmin tasks like this.
  ^
  Maybe you have a language problem, but this looks very much like
  inappropriate response.   We do no call names on this list.  It
  is unhelpful, unfriendly and non-professional.
 
  jerry

 When you give a specific answer, you are just giving that: one single
 answer. When you give the source of this answer instead, you are
 giving many answers at once. Now, it's obvious that the OP hasn't read
 the handbook ever and I think he didn't try, at least, a google search
 before asking this question. So, why is it inappropiate, unhelpful,
 unfriendly or non-professional my advise? Ain't it a tacit rule in
 every list to do some research before asking help?

 Just in case, I made a search of every word I used in a dictionary;
 and no offensive nor annoying meaning was found (OK, I misstyped
 accomplish, sorry about that. My native language is spanish).

 Please let me know if I'm missing something else.

I suspect that jerry had a problem with the use of dummy, which is
generally considered an insult when directed at a person.  I.e.  You're
being a dummy. is an insult.

Since your use of the term was associated with the task and not the
individual, the whole thing enters a grey area of interpretation.  Some
might consider the sentence an insult, others might simply consider
the use of dummy task as another way to say beginner task or
basic task.

In any event, it's my experience that if you spend time on the Internet,
you will eventually end up offending someone.  Just apologize for any
misunderstanding and move on.

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Re: [OT] Was: Disabling DNS

[Jorge Biquez]

Hello Vincent and Tom.

Understood. but I still guess that what he wanted to say was not 
with the intention of hurt or offend anyone anyway... let's 
forget and thanks for the lessons... let's continue learning FreeBSD 
(my case in the last years) and by the way if I ask something 
very basic I o not care if some of you use the dummy word if you help me. :=)


At 04:56 p.m. 20/04/2010, you wrote:

Hi Jorge,
While the term dummy has been used in the sense of basic or
beginner (for instance the for dummies series of books,) The most
common context means stupid, or silly and has negative connotations for
the person referred to.

Vince


On 20/04/2010 20:48, Jorge Biquez wrote:
 Hello all.

 My English is not perfect at all since it is not my native language.
 With that in mind I read the comments about the dummy word,
 interpreted as a basic task, simple task In th eeffort of
 learning... can you explain why you considered the comments unfriendly
 and non-professional?

 Thanks in advance

 Jorge Biquez


 At 12:30 p.m. 20/04/2010, you wrote:
 In response to Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com:

I have a FreeBSD server that, among other things, used to
 provide DNS for a handful of domain names and a small network.  All
 DNS is now provided by new machines.  On the old machine, DNS starts
 when the machine boots, and bind continues to run lots of useless
 named and named-xfer processes throughout the day.  How do I turn off
 the DNS processes on the old machine and stop it from starting every
 time the machine boots?
   Hi,
  
   FreeBSD has an excelent documentation. Just reading the manual you
   will know how to acomplish dummy sysadmin tasks like this.
   ^
   Maybe you have a language problem, but this looks very much like
   inappropriate response.   We do no call names on this list.  It
   is unhelpful, unfriendly and non-professional.
  
   jerry
 
  When you give a specific answer, you are just giving that: one single
  answer. When you give the source of this answer instead, you are
  giving many answers at once. Now, it's obvious that the OP hasn't read
  the handbook ever and I think he didn't try, at least, a google search
  before asking this question. So, why is it inappropiate, unhelpful,
  unfriendly or non-professional my advise? Ain't it a tacit rule in
  every list to do some research before asking help?
 
  Just in case, I made a search of every word I used in a dictionary;
  and no offensive nor annoying meaning was found (OK, I misstyped
  accomplish, sorry about that. My native language is spanish).
 
  Please let me know if I'm missing something else.

 I suspect that jerry had a problem with the use of dummy, which is
 generally considered an insult when directed at a person.  I.e.  You're
 being a dummy. is an insult.

 Since your use of the term was associated with the task and not the
 individual, the whole thing enters a grey area of interpretation.  Some
 might consider the sentence an insult, others might simply consider
 the use of dummy task as another way to say beginner task or
 basic task.

 In any event, it's my experience that if you spend time on the Internet,
 you will eventually end up offending someone.  Just apologize for any
 misunderstanding and move on.

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Re: 7.1 and wireless with ural

[Bobby Walker]

No I only had 7.1 on CD, but I've burned 8 onto disc and will upgrade  
when I get home tonight.


Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:27 AM, Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com  
wrote:



And in my rc.conf I have this defined:
ifconfig_ural0=wpa DHCP
hostname=my.home.server




You must create a virtual interface (i.e. wlan0) and then configure  
it.


# ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ural0

Read man(5) rc.conf and the handbook for more information. You are
using FreeBSD 8, don't you?

Regards


Alberto Mijares


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Re: Request for mount_nfs assistance

[peter]

I'm not certain what an RPC connection is, but I assume it's some type of flow 
of data.  

Nothing referring to RPC appears in either machine's logs.  Not a lot of 
activity occurs on the file server at 192.168.0.244.  It's primary purpose in 
life is to act as a file server for the machine at 192.168.0.252, which is the 
machine having difficulty connecting.  It's worked flawlessly for years.  The 
time-out problem is something that's appeared in the past week.  

I'm using a stale version of FreeBSD, but why would that cause mount_nfs to 
suddenly start timing out?  

---

At 04:52 PM 4/20/2010, Jon Mercer wrote:
Do you have anything relating to RPC connections inbound on the server logs?

It may also be time to look at which version of FBSD you are running.

On 20 April 2010 19:06, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:


 I deleted the unnecessary line from the /etc/exports file and rebooted both
 machines.  Connecting from the client to the server using an
 /sbin/mount_nfs 192.168.0.244:/usr/home1 /home1 command took forever . .
 . well, somewhere between a half-hour and an hour.  It used to be speedy.
  Nothing mount-related has been logged in either server's /var/log/messages
 file.

 I'm at a loss to know where to start to track down what's causing the slow
 connection.

 --

 At 03:42 AM 4/20/2010, Jon Mercer wrote:
 Peter,
 
 The two lines shouldn't create a conflict, but it would seem to me to be
 more normal to append the second IP after the first, e.g.:
 
 /usr/home1  -maproot=root   192.168.0.252, 192.168.0.253
 
 On the other hand, if the 253 machine doesn't need access it would be wise
 to remove the second line altogether and reduce any potential attack
 arising
 from that machine on the mount.
 
 Have you checked /var/log/messages and any other files to see why the
 server
 (maybe) didn't start after the last reboot? That could prevent any
 recurrence.
 
 Jon
 
 On 19 April 2010 17:48, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:
 
 
  192.168.0.244's /etc/exports file says:
 
  /usr/home1  -maproot=root   192.168.0.252
  /usr/home1  -maproot=root   192.168.0.253
 
  192.168.0.252 is the machine that should have access to 192.168.0.244's
  drive, but was having difficulty obtaining it.  I'm kind of surprised to
 see
  the entry for 192.168.0.253, because I don't think that machine has any
 need
  for access to the drive.
 
  Do these two entires in the /etc/exports file create a conflict?
 
  I don't believe there were any recent network-related changes.
 
  ---
 
  At 12:00 PM 4/19/2010, Jon Mercer wrote:
  What information is contained in the /etc/exports file on the NFS
 server?
  If
  that changed between NFS Server restarts that _could_ be the cause.
  
  Also, has there been any simultaneous change in the network across
 which
  the
  servers speak? Especially with regard to port 111.
  
  
  
  On 19 April 2010 15:38, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:
  
  
   I have two servers funning FreeBSD.  For the past four years, an:
  
  /sbin/mount_nfs 192.168.0.244:/usr/home1 /home1
  
   command has successfully allowed one server access to data on the
 other
   server's hard drive.
  
   This morning, following reboots of both servers, the mount_nsf
 command
   fails, returns:
  
  192.168.0.244:/usr/home1: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Timed out
  
   error messages.
  
   Each server can ping the other and connect via ssh; the hardware's
  working
   fine; I don't believe anything's changed on either server recently;
 and
  the
   find command doesn't indicate that any system files have been altered
 in
  the
   past week.
  
   I'm at a complete loss for any explanation of the failure, and I'm
   uncertain how to diagnose and fix the problem.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: Request for mount_nfs assistance

[Adam Vande More]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:53 PM, pe...@vfemail.net wrote:


 I'm not certain what an RPC connection is, but I assume it's some type of
 flow of data.

 Nothing referring to RPC appears in either machine's logs.  Not a lot of
 activity occurs on the file server at 192.168.0.244.  It's primary purpose
 in life is to act as a file server for the machine at 192.168.0.252, which
 is the machine having difficulty connecting.  It's worked flawlessly for
 years.  The time-out problem is something that's appeared in the past week.

 I'm using a stale version of FreeBSD, but why would that cause mount_nfs to
 suddenly start timing out?


can you post /var/log/messages from after a timeout issue.  Is the system
slow in other areas?  Perhaps you have a failing drive.

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Re: [OT] Was: Disabling DNS

[Jon Radel]

On 4/20/10 5:11 PM, Sergio Tam wrote:

2010/4/20 Jorge Biquezjbiq...@icsmx.com:
   

Hello all.

My English is not perfect at all since it is not my native language. With
that in mind I read the comments about the dummy word, interpreted as a
basic task, simple task In th eeffort of learning... can you explain why
you considered the comments unfriendly and non-professional?

 


dummy= idiot stupid retard moron dumb dumbass fool loser jerk jackass
asshole dork imbecile ass dunce slow tard ignorant silly dolt lame
retarded hyphy douchebag simpleton slut cretin bitch crazy dickhead
gay dipshit douche fag fucktard ignoramus dumbo dimwit dope dodo
blockhead doofus dumbbell dunderhead tool nitwit dullard foolish fat
annoying
   
Which must be why the X for Dummies series of books sells so well in the 
U.S., eh?


--Jon Radel
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RE: 7.1 and wireless with ural

[Bobby Walker]

FYI,

 

I upgraded to 8.0 and built the virtual interface, but still had the same 
problems.

 

I finally stumbled upon the solution to my problem.

 

I added to rc.conf

 

wpa_supplicant_flags=-s -Dbsd

 

It will now get online, I'm rebuilding my kernel before cvsup'ing.

 

Thanks!
 
 From: bobbyjwal...@live.com
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:06:02 -0500
 Subject: Re: 7.1 and wireless with ural
 
 
 No I only had 7.1 on CD, but I've burned 8 onto disc and will upgrade 
 when I get home tonight.
 
 Thanks
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:27 AM, Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
  And in my rc.conf I have this defined:
  ifconfig_ural0=wpa DHCP
  hostname=my.home.server
 
 
 
  You must create a virtual interface (i.e. wlan0) and then configure 
  it.
 
  # ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ural0
 
  Read man(5) rc.conf and the handbook for more information. You are
  using FreeBSD 8, don't you?
 
  Regards
 
 
  Alberto Mijares
 
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