Suspect results from iostat--FBSD bug?
We use iostat to collect statistics of hard drive activity. We've been seeing some values for the transaction wait column that look suspicious. This is easy to reproduce by just running iostat repeatedly over a short period of time, as I show below. Notice the third from last column. From what I understand, when run in this fashion the values displayed are averaged over the system uptime. I'd expect then for the transaction wait value to not take these sudden dips. Is there an explanation for this? # for ((i=1; i =100; i++)); do iostat -dxI ad8|tail +3; sleep 5; done ad8 10291.0 569044.0 151986.0 10164944.0 4294967295 47.7 93 ad8 10304.0 570070.0 152012.0 10185395.0 4294967295 47.6 93 ad8 10312.0 571047.0 152028.0 10204575.0 85 47.5 93 ad8 10317.0 571729.0 152038.0 10217633.0 4294967295 47.5 93 ad8 10321.0 572363.0 152046.0 10230152.0 4294967295 47.4 93 ad8 10324.0 573863.0 152052.0 10247668.0 4294967295 48.2 93 ad8 10325.0 574438.0 152054.0 10259296.0 4294967295 48.1 93 ad8 10330.0 575150.0 152078.0 10273362.0 4294967295 48.1 93 ad8 10332.0 575693.0 152082.0 10283567.0 4294967295 48.0 93 ad8 10334.0 576478.0 152086.0 10298971.0 4294967295 48.0 93 ad8 10337.0 577363.0 152092.0 10316766.0 4294967295 47.9 93 ad8 10340.0 578501.0 152098.0 10328958.0 4294967295 48.4 93 ad8 10343.0 579682.0 152104.0 10352494.0 4294967295 48.3 93 ad8 10349.0 580806.0 152116.0 10375251.0 4294967295 48.2 93 ad8 10356.0 581462.0 152200.0 10387402.00 48.1 93 ad8 10362.0 582392.0 152212.0 10405738.0 4294967295 48.1 93 ad8 10367.0 583326.0 15.0 10424055.0 4294967295 48.0 93 ad8 10367.0 584412.0 15.0 10432981.0 4294967295 48.7 93 ad8 10376.0 585764.0 152240.0 10460020.0 4294967295 48.6 93 ad8 10377.0 586649.0 152242.0 10477525.0 4294967295 48.5 93 ad8 10382.0 587266.0 152252.0 10488950.0 4294967295 48.5 93 ad8 10392.0 587977.0 152272.0 10503115.0 4294967295 48.4 93 ad8 10402.0 588713.0 152292.0 10518177.0 4294967295 48.4 93 ad8 10403.0 589831.0 152294.0 10527746.0 16 48.8 93 ad8 10419.0 590811.0 152326.0 10547455.0 4294967295 48.7 93 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
php52-spl doesn't compile
(FreeBSD 8.0 amd64) As part of # cd /usr/ports/lang/php52-extensions # make install clean I get teh error below.. What's wrong and how to remedy? ... === Building for php52-spl-5.2.13 /bin/sh /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/libtool --mode=compil e cc -I. -I/usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl -DPHP_ATOM_INC -I /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/include -I/usr/ports/devel/ph p52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/main -I/usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.1 3/ext/spl -I/usr/local/include/php -I/usr/local/include/php/main -I/usr/local/in clude/php/TSRM -I/usr/local/include/php/Zend -I/usr/local/include/php/ext -I/usr /local/include/php/ext/date/lib -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/includ e -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -c /usr/ports/devel/php52-s pl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/php_spl.c -o php_spl.lo ... In file included from /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_arr ay.h:26, from /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_eng ine.c:32: /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.h:27:31: error: ext/pcre/php_pcre.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_arr ay.h:26, from /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_eng ine.c:32: /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.h:147: error: e xpected specifier-qualifier-list before 'pcre_cache_entry' *** Error code 1 In file included from /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_arr ay.c:34: /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.h:27:31: error: ext/pcre/php_pcre.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_arr ay.c:34: /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.h:147: error: e xpected specifier-qualifier-list before 'pcre_cache_entry' In file included from /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_ite rators.c:34: /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.h:27:31: error: ext/pcre/php_pcre.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_ite rators.c:34: /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.h:147: error: e xpected specifier-qualifier-list before 'pcre_cache_entry' *** Error code 1 In file included from /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_arr ay.h:26, from /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/php_spl .c:32: /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.h:27:31: error: ext/pcre/php_pcre.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_arr ay.h:26, from /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/php_spl .c:32: /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.h:147: error: e xpected specifier-qualifier-list before 'pcre_cache_entry' /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c: In function 'spl_dual_it_construct': /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c:1022: error: 'struct anonymous' has no member named 'regex' /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c:1023: error: 'struct anonymous' has no member named 'pce' /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c:1024: error: 'struct anonymous' has no member named 'pce' /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c:1029: error: 'struct anonymous' has no member named 'pce' /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c: In function 'zim_spl_RegexIterator_accept': /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c:1397: error: 'struct anonymous' has no member named 'pce' /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c:1397: error: 'struct anonymous' has no member named 'pce' /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c:1409: error: 'struct anonymous' has no member named 'pce' /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c:1422: error: 'struct anonymous' has no member named 'pce' /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c:1429: error: 'struct anonymous' has no member named 'pce' /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c:1429: warning : assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c: In function 'zim_spl_RecursiveRegexIterator_getChildren': /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c:1552: error: 'struct anonymous' has no member named 'regex' /usr/ports/devel/php52-spl/work/php-5.2.13/ext/spl/spl_iterators.c: In function 'spl_dual_it_free_storage':
Re: compile error kdelibs4
Marco Beishuizen mb...@xs4all.nl writes: I'm getting an error compiling kdelibs4: /usr/local/include/qptrlist.h: In copy constructor QPtrListtype::QPtrList(const QPtrListtype) [with type = QDBusSignature]': /usr/local/include/qt4/QtCore/qmetatype.h:138: instantiated from void* qMetaTypeConstructHelper(const T*) [with T = QPtrListQDBusSignature]' /usr/local/include/qt4/QtCore/qmetatype.h:163: instantiated from int qRegisterMetaType(const char*, T*) [with T = QPtrListQDBusSignature]' /usr/local/include/qt4/QtDBus/qdbusextratypes.h:186: instantiated from here /usr/local/include/qptrlist.h:69: error: type 'QGList' is not a direct base of 'QPtrListQDBusSignature' *** Error code 1 3 errors *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 1 Has anyone an idea what's the problem here? You seem to have a bunch of unique problems. Have you customized your compiler usage? Do you have any settings in make.conf or other relevant /etc files? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compile error kdelibs4
On Wed, 5 May 2010, Lowell Gilbert wrote: You seem to have a bunch of unique problems. Have you customized your compiler usage? Do you have any settings in make.conf or other relevant /etc files? I've never done anything to compiler settings afaik. My /etc/make.conf looks like this: CPUTYPE=nocona NO_PROFILE=true OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f10 OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f10 # added by use.perl 2010-02-13 13:24:46 PERL_VERSION=5.10.1 Regards, Marco -- I know if you been talkin' you done said just how surprised you wuz by the living dead. You wuz surprised that they could understand you words and never respond once to all the truth they heard. But don't you get square! There ain't no rule that says they got to care. They can always swear they're deaf, dumb and blind. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
newsyslog not reading /ect/rc.conf arguments?
Greetings again. Running FreeBSD 8.0, I have added the following to /etc/rc.conf: newsyslog_flags=-a /usr/old-log/ I have stopped and started newsyslog. However, the rotated logs are still being written into /var/log. No errors appear in /var/log/messages or in dmesg. Any clues? --Paul Hoffman ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
HP NC522SFP 10GE-Adapter under FreeBSD?
Hi, Does anybody know whether the HP NC522 SFP 10GE-Adapter (http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/networking/nc522sfp/index.html) is supported under FreeBSD. HP only lists various Windoze and Linux as supported but I'd like to get this baby going under FreeBSD 8.0. Any experience with this piece of hardware under FreeBSD? Thanks much in advance for your help, -ewald ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Suspect results from iostat--FBSD bug?
On Wed, 5 May 2010 07:34:55 -0500, Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com wrote:
We use iostat to collect statistics of hard drive activity. We've been
seeing some values for the transaction wait column that look
suspicious. This is easy to reproduce by just running iostat
repeatedly over a short period of time, as I show below. Notice the
third from last column. From what I understand, when run in this
fashion the values displayed are averaged over the system uptime. I'd
expect then for the transaction wait value to not take these sudden
dips. Is there an explanation for this?
# for ((i=1; i =100; i++)); do iostat -dxI ad8|tail +3; sleep 5; done
ad8 10291.0 569044.0 151986.0 10164944.0 4294967295 47.7 93
ad8 10304.0 570070.0 152012.0 10185395.0 4294967295 47.6 93
ad8 10312.0 571047.0 152028.0 10204575.0 85 47.5 93
This looks like a bug in iostat. 4294967295 == 2 * 32 - -1
It seems that some call returns (unsigned long)-1, e.g. to indicate a
failing system/library call but iostat still prints the result:
: keram...@kobe:/home/keramida$ cat -n demo.c
: 1 #include limits.h
: 2 #include stdio.h
: 3
: 4 int
: 5 main(void)
: 6 {
: 7 (void)printf(-1 = %lu\n, (unsigned long)-1);
: 8 return 0;
: 9 }
: keram...@kobe:/home/keramida$ cc demo.c
: keram...@kobe:/home/keramida$ ./a.out
: -1 = 4294967295
: keram...@kobe:/home/keramida$
Which _precise_ version of FreeBSD are you using?
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Re: newsyslog not reading /ect/rc.conf arguments?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Hoffman wrote: Greetings again. Running FreeBSD 8.0, I have added the following to /etc/rc.conf: newsyslog_flags=-a /usr/old-log/ I have stopped and started newsyslog. However, the rotated logs are still being written into /var/log. No errors appear in /var/log/messages or in dmesg. Any clues? --Paul Hoffman Hi Paul, newsyslog is invoked at boot time by the /etc/rc.d/newsyslog script to create missing log files, but after that, it's invoked regularly by cron to do the actual rotations. Check the /etc/crontab file and add your flags there, and you should be all set. Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFL4Ys+0sRouByUApARAoYwAJ9VjG0SH6fOmlil+kvJtadlg+VX3QCgl7aq 7be/1LJn4coaeF12O9G49Vc= =0zhA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: newsyslog not reading /ect/rc.conf arguments?
On Wed, 5 May 2010 08:01:26 -0700, Paul Hoffman phoff...@proper.com wrote: Greetings again. Running FreeBSD 8.0, I have added the following to /etc/rc.conf: newsyslog_flags=-a /usr/old-log/ I have stopped and started newsyslog. However, the rotated logs are still being written into /var/log. No errors appear in /var/log/messages or in dmesg. How did you start newsyslog? There's an rc.d script that should *read* the flags from rc.conf: /etc/rc.d/newsyslog start ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Is it safe to increase / double kern.maxvnodes under FreeBSD 6.4 i386?
Hi, We had some issues at the weekend that left one of our machines with a very, very large sendmail queue... While we were trying to sort it out we noticed the machine takes over 4 minutes to go through the queue (i.e. 'mailq'). I noticed the machine was hovering around the maxvnode limit - so I upped it. The 'sweet spot' appears to be: sysctl -w kern.maxvnodes=25 That cuts the time to run a mailq from over four minutes down to 12 seconds. The machine has 2Gb of RAM, and is 'moderately' loaded (normally) - is it wise to leave that setting at 250,000 - or is it likely to cause other issues (i.e. kernel memory issues) - is there any metric I can look at / check to see if we can get away with leaving it that high? The only stuff I can seem to find on the 'net mostly concerns upping it under amd64 as that uses a different mapping method for vnodes - I can't seem to find anything that covers increasing it that much (2.5 * the default of 100,000) under i386. As it obviously makes a huge difference for us, I'd love to leave it in place - but don't want to risk anything drastic like a panic. Thanks, -Karl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Samba 3.5.2 with/out aio on FreeBSD 7.2
The real answer would be: if you don't know, what you are doing - don't compile from source. Timur. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Gabor Radnai gabor.rad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a FreeBSD 7.2/amd64 machine with Samba 3.4.5 with aio support enabled. If I try to upgrade to Samba 3.5.2 from source aio support compiles but I receive Abnormal server exit: Failed to setup RT_SIGNAL_AIO handler fatal error from smbd. Without aio 3.5.2 too works nice. Did somebody successfully compiled and run Samba 3.5.2 with aio enabled? What special compile/runtime option would be required to enable aio? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Suspect results from iostat--FBSD bug?
This looks like a bug in iostat. 4294967295 == 2 * 32 - -1 It seems that some call returns (unsigned long)-1, e.g. to indicate a failing system/library call but iostat still prints the result: Which _precise_ version of FreeBSD are you using? Well, that's a good question. The particular version I am running right now is basically FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT (well, from a free weeks ago anyway) with lots of local kernel mods (to support drive pull primarily). I guess we could very well be hitting a bug in this 9.0 code since it hasn't officially been stamped as released... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
dangerously dedicated disks and 8-stable status
I updated a production box at work last night from freebsd 6.2 to 8-stable, via 7-stable. The upgrade went ok just a minor glitch in jumping from 7 to 8. Basically all the device names changed from mfid0s1[a-g] to mfid0[a-g]. I presume this is because the initial layout was in dangerously dedicated mode. Two issues here why did the naming scheme seem to indicate a more normal MBR disk layout in bsd 6 and 7. Second what is the current status of dangerously dedicated in 8-stable as i thought support was being dropped. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
saving job state over a power outage
Hello, Our lab has a cluster (Sun Fire X40z master node, Opteron 270 and generic 2.0 GHz Opteron based compute nodes) running 8.0-RELEASE. We've been informed that the power has to be turned off for the weekend, but one of the lab members has been running some jobs since December. I don't know much about the jobs, i.e., if they can be restarted without losing all the computing work that's been done so far. Can anyone suggest a way to save the state of the jobs so they can continue when the power comes back on? From experience, ACPI seems flaky if it will work at all because of problems with BIOS implementations. Also, iirc ACPI has issues with SMP kernels. Is there something similar to software suspend found in Linux? Does anyone have any other suggestions to accomplish this? Thanks in advance, Joey Mingrone ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
booting??
well, the pcbsd iso on my dvd-rw seems to be doing something. i have at least seven junk dvd's that k3b tells me are full. is there a way of erasing these 7 discs or are they trash? (I did try # cdrecord dev=1,0,0 foo.iso on a non-empty and and empty DVD. no joy. k3b knew howto do it right. what are the magic commands to use from the cmdline to erase my dvd? is there a utility to erase? tia, gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Money-back Novel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Samba 3.5.2 with/out aio on FreeBSD 7.2
Guess that's the Russian way to say google is your best friend...:P @gabor: did you load the AIO module? On 5 mei 2010, at 17:58, Timur I. Bakeyev wrote: The real answer would be: if you don't know, what you are doing - don't compile from source. Timur. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Gabor Radnai gabor.rad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a FreeBSD 7.2/amd64 machine with Samba 3.4.5 with aio support enabled. If I try to upgrade to Samba 3.5.2 from source aio support compiles but I receive Abnormal server exit: Failed to setup RT_SIGNAL_AIO handler fatal error from smbd. Without aio 3.5.2 too works nice. Did somebody successfully compiled and run Samba 3.5.2 with aio enabled? What special compile/runtime option would be required to enable aio? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: newsyslog not reading /ect/rc.conf arguments?
At 6:14 PM +0300 5/5/10, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: How did you start newsyslog? There's an rc.d script that should *read* the flags from rc.conf: /etc/rc.d/newsyslog start Yes, exactly. I did '/etc/rc.d/newsyslog stop', then '/etc/rc.d/newsyslog start'. At 11:14 AM -0400 5/5/10, Greg Larkin wrote: newsyslog is invoked at boot time by the /etc/rc.d/newsyslog script to create missing log files, but after that, it's invoked regularly by cron to do the actual rotations. Check the /etc/crontab file and add your flags there, and you should be all set. Thanks, I see that now. This seems like a broken model: intial boot and later restarts uses arguments from /etc/rc.conf, but the periodic call does not. I don't think we want people modifying /etc/crontab, do we? Shouldn't /etc/crontab be calling '/etc/rc.d/newsyslog restart' instead? --Paul Hoffman ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server disappears from network
IIRC, there was a memory leak in the em driver for 8.0. That and a bunch of other improvments to the em driver have happened since then so you may want to give 8-STABLE a go. After some googling, I think I've found the problem: bug kern/144330, recently fixed in 8-stable. I think it's unfortunate that such a bug (mbuf leakage) would manifest itself in this way. It is bad behavior for a server to simply disappear from the network with no other indication of what went wrong. Shouldn't there be something in /var/log/messages when the system runs out of mbufs? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Samba 3.5.2 with/out aio on FreeBSD 7.2
Guys, arrogance and bad humor is not very helpful ... Pls read again: I have a working version 3.4.5 _with_ aio. So, yes I know what I am doing and yes, aio module is loaded. And yes, I know google. And as I am asking here then no, I have not found any help yet. My problem is that when using version 3.5.2 (which was compiled with aio-support on and still aio module is loaded) I get this error message below. Any real help? Thanks. On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Matthias mgamsja...@gmail.com wrote: Guess that's the Russian way to say google is your best friend...:P @gabor: did you load the AIO module? On 5 mei 2010, at 17:58, Timur I. Bakeyev wrote: The real answer would be: if you don't know, what you are doing - don't compile from source. Timur. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Gabor Radnai gabor.rad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a FreeBSD 7.2/amd64 machine with Samba 3.4.5 with aio support enabled. If I try to upgrade to Samba 3.5.2 from source aio support compiles but I receive Abnormal server exit: Failed to setup RT_SIGNAL_AIO handler fatal error from smbd. Without aio 3.5.2 too works nice. Did somebody successfully compiled and run Samba 3.5.2 with aio enabled? What special compile/runtime option would be required to enable aio? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: booting??
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: well, the pcbsd iso on my dvd-rw seems to be doing something. i have at least seven junk dvd's that k3b tells me are full. is there a way of erasing these 7 discs or are they trash? (I did try # cdrecord dev=1,0,0 foo.iso on a non-empty and and empty DVD. no joy. k3b knew howto do it right. what are the magic commands to use from the cmdline to erase my dvd? is there a utility to erase? tia, gary Check out the following web page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compile error kdelibs4
On Wed, 5 May 2010, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Has anyone an idea what's the problem here? You seem to have a bunch of unique problems. Have you customized your compiler usage? Do you have any settings in make.conf or other relevant /etc files? This one seems solved. It seems that libkde4 doesn't compile when qt33 is installed. After deinstalling qt33, libkde4 compiled ok. -- What is truth? We must adopt a pragmatic definition: it is what is believed to be the truth. A lie that is put across therefore becomes the truth and may, therefore, be justified. The difficulty is to keep up lying... it is simpler to tell the truth and if a sufficient emergency arises, to tell one, big thumping lie that will then be believed. -- Ministry of Information, memo on the maintenance of British civilian morale, 1939 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: booting??
On Wed, 5 May 2010 09:59:35 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: (I did try # cdrecord dev=1,0,0 foo.iso on a non-empty and and empty DVD. no joy. I'm not sure it's safe to use cdrecord for DVDs. Anyway, I always wqas lucky using growisofs (from port dvd+rw-tools). This is the command: # growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=foo.iso You can replace /dev/dvd with the ATAPICAM device refering to your DVD recorder, usually something like /dev/cd0. The command # camcontrol devlist shows you the device name (löok for the SCSI ID 1,0,0 as from your cdrecord example). what are the magic commands to use from the cmdline to erase my dvd? is there a utility to erase? In man growisofs I found this: Note that DVD+RW re-formatting procedure does not substitute for blanking. If you want to nullify the media, e.g. for privacy reasons, do it explicitly with 'growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/dev/zero'. This should work, or try the respective cdrecord blank= command (all or fast). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dangerously dedicated disks and 8-stable status
On Wed, 5 May 2010 17:17:09 +0100, krad kra...@googlemail.com wrote: I updated a production box at work last night from freebsd 6.2 to 8-stable, via 7-stable. The upgrade went ok just a minor glitch in jumping from 7 to 8. Basically all the device names changed from mfid0s1[a-g] to mfid0[a-g]. I presume this is because the initial layout was in dangerously dedicated mode. That's strange. Dangerously dedicated partitioning omits the slicing part, so if you had mfid0s1[a-g] in 6 and 7, there was a slice. Maybe the mfi driver is different in 8 in terms of representing the disks? Two issues here why did the naming scheme seem to indicate a more normal MBR disk layout in bsd 6 and 7. Very strange - if you can check booting from a live system CD or DVD with FreeBSD 6 and 7, and the disks are mfid0s1[a-g], and if you boot into FreeBSD 8, the disks are mfid0[a-g], that's really strange... Second what is the current status of dangerously dedicated in 8-stable as i thought support was being dropped. The support has been removed from sysinstall. You can't create dedicated partitions (without slice) with sysinstall, but you can create them manually (e. g. using bsdlabel and newfs). So support isn't dropped at all - dedicated disks just is a new special secret feature. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
PCI devices without drivers
I ran the following command and I was wondering how I could figure out what drivers are needed for each of the following. $pciconf -lv|grep -A 4 none no...@pci0:0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x3a1d17aa chip=0x29308086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus no...@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x088000 card=0x3d9b17aa chip=0x2382197b rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp.' device = 'JMB38X SD/MMC Host Controller (JMB38X)' class = base peripheral no...@pci0:2:0:2: class=0x080501 card=0x3d9a17aa chip=0x2381197b rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp.' class = base peripheral subclass = SD host controller no...@pci0:2:0:3: class=0x088000 card=0x3d9c17aa chip=0x2383197b rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp.' device = 'JMB38X MS Host Controller (JMB38X)' class = base peripheral ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: newsyslog not reading /ect/rc.conf arguments?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Hoffman wrote: At 6:14 PM +0300 5/5/10, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: How did you start newsyslog? There's an rc.d script that should *read* the flags from rc.conf: /etc/rc.d/newsyslog start Yes, exactly. I did '/etc/rc.d/newsyslog stop', then '/etc/rc.d/newsyslog start'. At 11:14 AM -0400 5/5/10, Greg Larkin wrote: newsyslog is invoked at boot time by the /etc/rc.d/newsyslog script to create missing log files, but after that, it's invoked regularly by cron to do the actual rotations. Check the /etc/crontab file and add your flags there, and you should be all set. Thanks, I see that now. This seems like a broken model: intial boot and later restarts uses arguments from /etc/rc.conf, but the periodic call does not. I don't think we want people modifying /etc/crontab, do we? Shouldn't /etc/crontab be calling '/etc/rc.d/newsyslog restart' instead? --Paul Hoffman Hi Paul, The problem here is that the /etc/rc.d/newsyslog script is used to initialize the system at boot time with missing log files specified by /etc/newsyslog.conf and not do any log rotation. The arguments passed to that invocation of newsyslog are (by default): - -C If specified once, then newsyslog will create any log files which do not exist, and which have the C flag specified in their config file entry. If specified multiple times, then newsyslog will create all log files which do not already exist. If log files are given on the command-line, then the -C or -CC will only apply to those specific log files. - -N Do not perform any rotations. This option is intended to be used with the -C or -CC options when creating log files is the only objective. Because -N is not used under normal circumstances, but should be used at boot time, you would need two different specifications for newsyslog flags in /etc/rc.conf, one for boot time and one for invocation from cron. That would complicate the rc system somewhat, so I would lean toward simply adding your preferred arguments to the crontab file. I modify the system crontab file on my machines, and I don't think there's a big problem doing that. Regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFL4b4w0sRouByUApARArxgAJ4gvUbJK69ApZ9tr1LNE1fWd20fjgCfc4db qyR2z9wgv53vIAYGQ+2u0HU= =8qby -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Received signal 15; terminating.
Received signal 15; terminating. - this is the last line in /var/log/auth.log before my 7.2-STABLE suddenly shut down. Something with signal 15 also was in /var/log/messages, but I can't copy it exactly. What could produce halting of system with this symptoms, if I sure that nobody could just type shutdown or halt in root console? -- Best regards, Antonio Kless, http://kless.spb.ru/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Magic Jack VOIP telephone
Good afternoon, FreeBSD enthusiasts. Have any of you attempted to use Magic Jack VOIP telephone with an Intel workstation equipped with FreeBSD operating system? It is supposed to work with Mac OSX, which I understand to be similar to FreeBSD, but I do not know if it is sufficiently similar. Would appreciate a response from anyone who has attempted such a use, whether successful, or unsuccessful. Thank you. L e e _ S h a c k e l f o r d @ d o t . c a . g o v ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Magic Jack VOIP telephone
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Lee Shackelford lee_shackelf...@dot.ca.gov wrote: Good afternoon, FreeBSD enthusiasts. Have any of you attempted to use Magic Jack VOIP telephone with an Intel workstation equipped with FreeBSD Hi there, and sorry to be so blunt. MagicJack is a piece of crap. The dongle is just an a/d conerter to plug-in a regular phone, the rest is pure software. I had to throow 2 away because of lack of Linux support and just stuck with Skype who now BTW offers international SIP services, so I also hooked up Skype + Asterisk. This means you can purchase Skype phone # and attach it to your Asterisk and everything in FBSD. No Windoze crappy software. operating system? It is supposed to work with Mac OSX, which I understand to be similar to FreeBSD, but I do not know if it is sufficiently similar. Would appreciate a response from anyone who has attempted such a use, whether successful, or unsuccessful. Thank you. L e e _ S h a c k e l f o r d @ d o t . c a . g o v ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Magic Jack VOIP telephone
not sure id waste my time on Magic Jack, let alone working with FreeBSD On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Lee Shackelford lee_shackelf...@dot.ca.govwrote: Good afternoon, FreeBSD enthusiasts. Have any of you attempted to use Magic Jack VOIP telephone with an Intel workstation equipped with FreeBSD operating system? It is supposed to work with Mac OSX, which I understand to be similar to FreeBSD, but I do not know if it is sufficiently similar. Would appreciate a response from anyone who has attempted such a use, whether successful, or unsuccessful. Thank you. L e e _ S h a c k e l f o r d @ d o t . c a . g o v ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Problems booting up on 1201N
I recently got a Asus 1201N and installed FreeBSD 8.0 on it. This uses the alc (Atheros AR8132 PCIe Fast Ethernet) NIC card. /etc/rc.conf hostname=host.test.com ifconfig_alc0=DHCP I noticed that if I start up the computer with the network cable unplugged it will hang at the following spot. This happens right after installing meaning I can install the OS and have the NIC get a DHCP IP address and then when rebooting I unplug the network cable and it hangs. Setting hostname: host.test.com So, this must mean that it finishes running /etc/rc.d/hostname, but I'm not sure what comes next in the boot process. Phusion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dangerously dedicated disks and 8-stable status
On 5 May 2010 18:55, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2010 17:17:09 +0100, krad kra...@googlemail.com wrote: I updated a production box at work last night from freebsd 6.2 to 8-stable, via 7-stable. The upgrade went ok just a minor glitch in jumping from 7 to 8. Basically all the device names changed from mfid0s1[a-g] to mfid0[a-g]. I presume this is because the initial layout was in dangerously dedicated mode. That's strange. Dangerously dedicated partitioning omits the slicing part, so if you had mfid0s1[a-g] in 6 and 7, there was a slice. Maybe the mfi driver is different in 8 in terms of representing the disks? Two issues here why did the naming scheme seem to indicate a more normal MBR disk layout in bsd 6 and 7. Very strange - if you can check booting from a live system CD or DVD with FreeBSD 6 and 7, and the disks are mfid0s1[a-g], and if you boot into FreeBSD 8, the disks are mfid0[a-g], that's really strange... I agree, but it definitely happened, as i did the upgrade remotely. Luckily the data center was only a mile or so away from my home, so it wasn't a major disaster to console it, point the kernel at the correct device and tweak fstab. COst me an hour more sleep than it had to though 8( I have another box to do in the next day or so. Is there anything you recommend me looking at/running? Hopefully this box will have a drac card in it 8) Second what is the current status of dangerously dedicated in 8-stable as i thought support was being dropped. The support has been removed from sysinstall. You can't create dedicated partitions (without slice) with sysinstall, but you can create them manually (e. g. using bsdlabel and newfs). So support isn't dropped at all - dedicated disks just is a new special secret feature. :-) This was the bit i was worried about, as i didnt want to get caught out in the future when I want to upgrade again -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dangerously dedicated disks and 8-stable status
On 5 May 2010 21:28, krad kra...@googlemail.com wrote: On 5 May 2010 18:55, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2010 17:17:09 +0100, krad kra...@googlemail.com wrote: I updated a production box at work last night from freebsd 6.2 to 8-stable, via 7-stable. The upgrade went ok just a minor glitch in jumping from 7 to 8. Basically all the device names changed from mfid0s1[a-g] to mfid0[a-g]. I presume this is because the initial layout was in dangerously dedicated mode. That's strange. Dangerously dedicated partitioning omits the slicing part, so if you had mfid0s1[a-g] in 6 and 7, there was a slice. Maybe the mfi driver is different in 8 in terms of representing the disks? Two issues here why did the naming scheme seem to indicate a more normal MBR disk layout in bsd 6 and 7. Very strange - if you can check booting from a live system CD or DVD with FreeBSD 6 and 7, and the disks are mfid0s1[a-g], and if you boot into FreeBSD 8, the disks are mfid0[a-g], that's really strange... I agree, but it definitely happened, as i did the upgrade remotely. Luckily the data center was only a mile or so away from my home, so it wasn't a major disaster to console it, point the kernel at the correct device and tweak fstab. COst me an hour more sleep than it had to though 8( I have another box to do in the next day or so. Is there anything you recommend me looking at/running? Hopefully this box will have a drac card in it 8) Second what is the current status of dangerously dedicated in 8-stable as i thought support was being dropped. The support has been removed from sysinstall. You can't create dedicated partitions (without slice) with sysinstall, but you can create them manually (e. g. using bsdlabel and newfs). So support isn't dropped at all - dedicated disks just is a new special secret feature. :-) This was the bit i was worried about, as i didnt want to get caught out in the future when I want to upgrade again -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... Hmm, things get a little strange on a box I built from scratch # bsdlabel /dev/mfid0 bsdlabel: /dev/mfid0: no valid label found # bsdlabel /dev/mfid0s1 # /dev/mfid0s1: 8 partitions: #size offsetfstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 419430404.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 b: 8388608 4194304 swap c: 2854589220unused0 0 # raw part, don't edit d: 16777216 125829124.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 e: 8388608 293601284.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 f: 8388608 377487364.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 g: 129954672 461373444.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 h: 109366906 1760920164.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 All fairly normal One the next box I have to upgrade (built by a former employee who was well known for his qwirky ways) # bsdlabel /dev/mfid0s1 # /dev/mfid0s1: 8 partitions: #size offsetfstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 209715204.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 b: 16777216 2097152 swap c: 1420820480unused0 0 # raw part, don't edit d: 16777216 188743684.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 e: 16777216 356515844.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 f: 16777216 524288004.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 g: 72876032 692060164.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 # bsdlabel /dev/mfid0 # /dev/mfid0: 8 partitions: #size offsetfstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 209715204.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 b: 16777216 2097152 swap c: 1420820480unused0 0 # raw part, don't edit d: 16777216 188743684.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 e: 16777216 356515844.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 f: 16777216 524288004.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 g: 72876032 692060164.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 not sure what he has done fdisk output is fairly normal on this box as well *** Working on device /dev/mfid0 *** parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=8844 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=8844 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 0, size 142082048 (69376 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 0/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 50/ sector 38 The data for partition 2 is: UNUSED The data for partition 3 is: UNUSED The data for partition 4 is: UNUSED looks like i will have to change fstab again. At least I wont have to travel this time though ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe,
Re: kdelibs3 fails to compile
On Tue, 4 May 2010, Marco Beishuizen wrote:
./kopenssl.h:532: error: 'STACK' has not been declared
./kopenssl.h:538: error: 'STACK' has not been declared
./kopenssl.h:544: error: expected ';' before '(' token
./kopenssl.h:550: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'STACK' with no type
./kopenssl.h:550: error: expected ';' before '*' token
./kopenssl.h:556: error: 'STACK' has not been declared
./kopenssl.h:562: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'STACK' with no type
./kopenssl.h:562: error: expected ';' before '*' token
./kopenssl.h:828: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'STACK' with no type
This one is solved too. It appears that FreeBSD uses two versions of
OpenSSL and these two don't mix to well. I had a problem with another port
some time ago which insisted on installing openssl with MD2 support on
(wasn't on by default). Now kdelibs3 insists on using the openssl in the
base system and doesn't like openssl from ports. So I had to deinstall
openssl from ports first. I don't understand why there isn't just one
openssl version used.
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manner that they function perfectly. (These are your hammers, maces,
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* Tools that, if dropped properly, can penetrate your foot. (Awls)
* Tools that nobody should ever use because the potential danger is far
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(Power saws, power drills, power staplers, any kind of tool that uses
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Re: Addition to BSDstats
Marc G. Fournier wrote: can you tell me two things: nslookup rpt.bsdstats.org and the contents of /var/db/bsdstats I seem to have probs with mine too. I was under the impression that bsdstats was installed by default (in the base system?) so for a very long time I haven't installed it. Obviously I was wrong. So I've just installed from ports then run: muji2# /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics -nodelay fetch: http://rpt.bsdstats.org/scripts/getid.php?key=: Connection refused Posting monthly OS statistics to rpt.bsdstats.org (Not sure if publishing the key is a security risk so replacing it with x's) A bit later muji2# /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics -nodelay Posting monthly OS statistics to rpt.bsdstats.org But www.bsdstats.org/bt/countries.html is still showing only 3 FreeBSD in UK. Will it right itself later? BTW, I can't get the Ports Stats page on the website. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
2 qstns re pc-bsd...
while it installed faitly easily, the ssh studd failed; so is there any easy way of doing this? and more important, am i going to have to join thepc-bsd list or will you guys be pissed off if i ask here? [i'm trying to add my beloved zsh [[heart-throbs]], and ff3, and others. i thought i had installed the ports stuff. nope. gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2 qstns re pc-bsd...
Gary Kline wrote: i ask here? [i'm trying to add my beloved zsh [[heart-throbs]], and ff3, and others. i thought i had installed the ports stuff. nope. When I looked at PCBSD some while ago it had 3 ways of doing ports. #1 is standard (make install) FreeBSD ports, #2 is also standard FreeBSD ports but installed to a different location, #3 is PBI which is statically compiled (or at least is completely self contained in some way) and is a very quick binary install. zsh is available here http://www.pbidir.com/bt/pbi/96. The PBI system is a bit of a flagship aspect of PCBSD so probably works pretty well. Method 2, which is the default when you build your own, is designed to keep 'your' ports separate from 'system' ports. Because PCBSD is a desktop system some ports eg kde are ready installed and are upgraded as part of a PCBSD system upgrade. 'Your' ports are installed in a separate place to allow PCBSD upgrades to occur without interfering with yours. That's written from memory of a year ago - please check for yourself in case things have changed. I think you mentioned in a previous post that you wanted PCBSD for some server stuff. I'm just curious because PCBSD is clearly aimed at desktop use, whereas one might think FreeBSD is a more appropriate choice for the server stuff. Not that either couldn't do either job... Chris gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: booting??
On Wed, 5 May 2010, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2010 09:59:35 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: (I did try # cdrecord dev=1,0,0 foo.iso on a non-empty and and empty DVD. no joy. I'm not sure it's safe to use cdrecord for DVDs. Anyway, I always wqas lucky using growisofs (from port dvd+rw-tools). This is the command: # growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=foo.iso You can replace /dev/dvd with the ATAPICAM device refering to your DVD recorder, usually something like /dev/cd0. The command # camcontrol devlist shows you the device name (l?ok for the SCSI ID 1,0,0 as from your cdrecord example). what are the magic commands to use from the cmdline to erase my dvd? is there a utility to erase? In man growisofs I found this: Note that DVD+RW re-formatting procedure does not substitute for blanking. If you want to nullify the media, e.g. for privacy reasons, do it explicitly with 'growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/dev/zero'. This should work, or try the respective cdrecord blank= command (all or fast). In addition to Polytropon's sage advice, I need to mention that you never said that these were rewritable DVDs you're working with. Not saying you're that dumb, but *I* am that dumb so it's the sort of thing I might have overlooked. Also, make sure that (assuming they are rewritable) they are the right kind for your drive: the plus and minus discs are not the same; that's DVD+RW versus DVD-RW. -- Chris Hill ch...@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging | ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Addition to BSDstats
On Tue, 4 May 2010, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 4 May 2010, Gary Kline wrote: On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 09:12:21PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: BSDSTATS is dead. Don't waste your time. Not dead, still very active with reports in daily ... i see a golden opportunity here, marc. why not post the basic onlist now? i've been signed up for a long while and have never checked ... be nice to see the latest stats. Stats are updated real time ... just go to http://www.bsdstats.org ... The only stats that aren't working right now are the ports ones, not sure why we disabled that one, but suspect alot of it is size / load time related ... the database is *huge* for that ... I'm going to have to look into that one ... Since we're on the topic, and in light of Fbsd1's recent adventure... Panama seems awfully high in the country stats. I understand what you said upthread about haproxy being in Panama, but it's a small country to be always at the top; maybe there's some way to differentiate between really in Panama and don't know? It also seems odd that I, personally, as a home user, should be responsible for about 3% of the bsdstats-reporting FreeBSD machines in the US. (3 hosts out of 101) Just wondering. -- Chris Hill ch...@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging | ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2 qstns re pc-bsd...
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:52:48PM +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
i ask here? [i'm trying to add my beloved zsh [[heart-throbs]],
and ff3, and others. i thought i had installed the ports stuff.
nope.
When I looked at PCBSD some while ago it had 3 ways of doing ports. #1
is standard (make install) FreeBSD ports, #2 is also standard FreeBSD
ports but installed to a different location, #3 is PBI which is
statically compiled (or at least is completely self contained in some
way) and is a very quick binary install. zsh is available here
http://www.pbidir.com/bt/pbi/96. The PBI system is a bit of a flagship
aspect of PCBSD so probably works pretty well.
hmm. i clicked on the package icon thing and after clicking
around, the thing went nuts. maybe it was trying to upgrade
everything from 07jan.
i got tothe Shells table; but then found nowhere to click.
--this was about 70 minutes ago. i will happily learn about
pbi --ok, not happily, but willingly-- if it lets me dload
the binary. [[i can Always get the src, right?] but there
was nowhere that i saw to click that displayed the
pbidir.com/bt/ URL. How does one get there? I must have
done something ungodly silly during the install; i thought i
clicked on the ports choice. not ye olden fashioned #1, but
the #2 you mention above. hangon; it's about a yard away.
...not clear. i think it is updating. i opened the browser
and do have a link to the net. one thing that is confusing
is the mouse clicks. left, then right+ Open. ...
Method 2, which is the default when you build your own, is designed to
keep 'your' ports separate from 'system' ports. Because PCBSD is a
desktop system some ports eg kde are ready installed and are upgraded as
part of a PCBSD system upgrade. 'Your' ports are installed in a separate
place to allow PCBSD upgrades to occur without interfering with yours.
it would help [maybe only me] to have a 'Console' frame to
see what is really going on. all that is shown is a
horizontal strip with blue barber pole stripes and the
percentages ... Of What, dunno!
That's written from memory of a year ago - please check for yourself in
case things have changed.
i'll do that! looks like this 'pbi' stuff is a solution for
the dependency messes here. i wonder how much thought has
been given to using that solution here. Anybody care to jump
in?
I think you mentioned in a previous post that you wanted PCBSD for some
server stuff. I'm just curious because PCBSD is clearly aimed at desktop
use, whereas one might think FreeBSD is a more appropriate choice for
the server stuff. Not that either couldn't do either job...
well, the deal was [and still is] that i had to move over to
my other computr or KVM to the other [ubuntu] to play
streams. audio/video. for my money, i prefer to listen to
radio streams about 5 to 1, but the standalone BBC || NPR
radio deals wouldn't play on freebsd. And none of the
video streams played here. it was partly mucking with that
proprietary Sun stuff, and maybe the flashit too.
nutshell, only on linux did everything work.
after about 15 years of FreeBSD, i know it fairly well. so
pc-bsd would be pref to ubuntu. here, at least, i know where
things live :-)now i may be wrong, but i think openjdk7
got things starting to work.
a pal, an older student at the UW is going to help me set up
a fail safe, roll-over {fall-back/failsafe} configuration
that will have my Server stuff AND ~kline.
when my network was crumbling in jan '08, a guy from dallas
set me up with a pfSense computer plus the server. very
secure, but just slightly overkill[?] ... my college friend
thinks we can do everything with ifp or pf or ipfw and DNS,
web and mail and /home. A backup would be there justincase.
ok, enuf, [ tx],
gary
Chris
gary
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Re: Addition to BSDstats
On Wed, 5 May 2010, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: can you tell me two things: nslookup rpt.bsdstats.org and the contents of /var/db/bsdstats I seem to have probs with mine too. I was under the impression that bsdstats was installed by default (in the base system?) so for a very long time I haven't installed it. Obviously I was wrong. So I've just installed from ports then run: muji2# /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics -nodelay fetch: http://rpt.bsdstats.org/scripts/getid.php?key=: Connection refused Posting monthly OS statistics to rpt.bsdstats.org That one would be a result of the change(s) I made last night to deal with everything being recorded as 'Country == Panama' ... it waas a DNS change that took a bit to propogate out ... But www.bsdstats.org/bt/countries.html is still showing only 3 FreeBSD in UK. Will it right itself later? Can you send me your key? Its still showing just 3 FBSD, but that page has definitely been updating in #s, so not sure why it didnt jump to 4 ... I did narrow down the view in the database from 3 mos to 'just this month' so that the country numbers do look accurate, but will re-extend things as time goes on with the cleaned up #s ... BTW, I can't get the Ports Stats page on the website. I'm going to have to look at re-enabling that one ... that table is so huge that processing it was killer ... I've since moved things to a much larger server, so will run some tests and get that back online ... Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scra...@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappySkype: hub.orgICQ:7615664MSN:scra...@hub.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Addition to BSDstats
On Wed, 5 May 2010, Chris Hill wrote: Since we're on the topic, and in light of Fbsd1's recent adventure... Panama seems awfully high in the country stats. I understand what you said upthread about haproxy being in Panama, but it's a small country to be always at the top; maybe there's some way to differentiate between really in Panama and don't know? It also seems odd that I, personally, as a home user, should be responsible for about 3% of the bsdstats-reporting FreeBSD machines in the US. (3 hosts out of 101) You will see those numbers dropping over the course of the month ... if ppl out there are reading this and wish to help 'fix the numbers', just run: /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics -nodelay to update their records with the right country vs Panama, and you'll see it change quickly ... you'll even notice that the overall numbers right now are quick low, as I narrowed down the view to just 'so far this month' to help bring down the Panama skew, so there is no overlap right now with last month ... The PC-BSD #s are the ones that really skew'd those numbers up though, since theirs is auto-installed and always up to date, so unlike alot of FBSD users that have old versions installed pointing directly to the physical server, the PC-BSD ones were pointing to the load balancer ... DNS will have to catch up for them Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scra...@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappySkype: hub.orgICQ:7615664MSN:scra...@hub.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Addition to BSDstats
On Wed, 5 May 2010, Chris Whitehouse wrote: I seem to have probs with mine too. I was under the impression that bsdstats was installed by default (in the base system?) There has been talk about adding it as an option to sysinstall, but, unfortunately, I don't have enough knowledge of sysinstall to add it, and nobody else has step'd forward that does ... the idea wasn't to auto-install/enable, but to make it more visible while you are installing ... Anyone out there able to do this ... ? so for a very long time I haven't installed it. Obviously I was wrong. So I've just installed from ports then run: muji2# /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics -nodelay fetch: http://rpt.bsdstats.org/scripts/getid.php?key=: Connection refused Posting monthly OS statistics to rpt.bsdstats.org (Not sure if publishing the key is a security risk so replacing it with x's) A bit later muji2# /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics -nodelay Posting monthly OS statistics to rpt.bsdstats.org But www.bsdstats.org/bt/countries.html is still showing only 3 FreeBSD in UK. Will it right itself later? BTW, I can't get the Ports Stats page on the website. Chris Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scra...@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappySkype: hub.orgICQ:7615664MSN:scra...@hub.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
bash while read question
I cant figure out why the variable in in loop2 does not hike to +1? (its a friday, i am dazed, I admit. but this should not be a mystery!) any help would be much appreciated. $ cat loop1 #! /bin/bash date /tmp/somefile b=1 while read blah; do let b=(b+1) done /tmp/somefile echo variable is $b $ cat loop2 #! /bin/bash date /tmp/somefile b=1 cat /tmp/somefile | while read blah; do let b=(b+1) done echo variable is $b $ ./loop1 variable is 2 $ ./loop2 variable is 1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
BSDstats website displaying data incorrectly
Why does this page show PCBSD has count of 387 http://www.bsdstats.org/bt/home.html?os= And this page shows PCBSD has count of 1307 http://www.bsdstats.org/bt/home.html?os=PC-BSD Why is this? I would think both should show the same value, or you better add explanation to the web page why the count is different. And that little selection box on the home page should have some explanation of its function. Just sticking it there on the right side of the page above the titles hoping someone will fall into it is not user friendly. What is going on with the release stats? What are you showing there? Is that just for Freebsd? If so then the count is incorrect. This should be showing the count for each release under each operating system. IE. what release are in use for freebsd, netbsd, openbsd ect. Website also needs explanation of the time frame being reported. Are the values shows as of the the first day of the current month? In general the website does not explain much of anything about what is being shown. Put a lot more text describing the overall process and the reporting cycle. Also think some kind of operating system monthly growth chart over time is needed. Say going back 3 years to current. The current website is way to passive in the way things are worded. Try to inspire people to show their loyalty, allegiance, and devotion by running the bsdstats client to anonymously report their usage to the benefit of everyone. Developers donate large amounts of their personal free time working on the operating systems, the least the users can do is fulfill their obligation to demonstrate their gratitude to the developers by running bsdstats. Emphasize the reporting is anonymously. Website needs to promote it self more. Get on the home page of all the different BSD systems. Try to become a default part of the BSD systems basic release. Like PCbsd does. Not option to go get it and turn it on, but all ready there with option to turn off if desired. This is only self promotion of the individual operating systems and should be something they should be interested in doing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash while read question
On 05/05/2010 08:25 PM, Evuraan wrote: I cant figure out why the variable in in loop2 does not hike to +1? (its a friday, i am dazed, I admit. but this should not be a mystery!) any help would be much appreciated. snip $ cat loop2 #! /bin/bash date /tmp/somefile b=1 cat /tmp/somefile | while read blah; do let b=(b+1) done echo variable is $b This particular syntax executes the 'while' block in a subshell. The variables set or altered in the subshell are never propagated back up to the parent shell. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net cyber...@cyberleo.net Furry Peace! - http://.fur.com/peace/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Addition to BSDstats
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2010, Chris Whitehouse wrote: I seem to have probs with mine too. I was under the impression that bsdstats was installed by default (in the base system?) There has been talk about adding it as an option to sysinstall, but, unfortunately, I don't have enough knowledge of sysinstall to add it, and nobody else has step'd forward that does ... the idea wasn't to auto-install/enable, but to make it more visible while you are installing ... Anyone out there able to do this ... ? I have not heard any talk about this up until this email. I wouldn't want to add an option to sysinstall for this unless bsdstats was part of base. If it were, this would be trivial, but I don't really want to pop up any optional package menus other than what already exists. -- randi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Addition to BSDstats
On May 5, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Randi Harper wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2010, Chris Whitehouse wrote: I seem to have probs with mine too. I was under the impression that bsdstats was installed by default (in the base system?) There has been talk about adding it as an option to sysinstall, but, unfortunately, I don't have enough knowledge of sysinstall to add it, and nobody else has step'd forward that does ... the idea wasn't to auto-install/enable, but to make it more visible while you are installing ... Anyone out there able to do this ... ? I have not heard any talk about this up until this email. I wouldn't want to add an option to sysinstall for this unless bsdstats was part of base. If it were, this would be trivial, but I don't really want to pop up any optional package menus other than what already exists. -- randi This idea was mentioned a few years as a way to improve advocacy statistics. Something short and sweet, with a one or two line explanation encouraging people to install the BSDStats system. If it were a yes/no option similar to the Would you like to install Linux Compatibility then it would be a no brainer. Honestly this seems relatively unobtrusive and quite logical. Regards, Mikel King Senior Editor, BSD News Network Columnist, BSD Magazine 6 Alpine Court, Medford, NY 11763 http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikelking http://twitter.com/mikelking ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
dont think much of pcbsd.....
maybe i need to reboot the ThinkPad, but i can't find and d/load zsh and many other of our std ports. no ff3, no evo or kmail. not much there-there. at least from what i see right now. oh-yeah, and the festival stuff, too. oh, and no ssh configured by default. pc-bsd has a well thought out pbi, but that's about all i see. i am planning to build my own, open src tabler-with-keyboard along with my vim and other tts tools. it would run on the new A9's that will be out by fall. would be be a MAJOR undertaking to try this pbi thing on our real OS. i may be [[or seriously am]] biased after having run this since 2.0.5, but we've got the best system around. gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSDstats website displaying data incorrectly
On Thu, 6 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: Why does this page show PCBSD has count of 387 http://www.bsdstats.org/bt/home.html?os= And this page shows PCBSD has count of 1307 http://www.bsdstats.org/bt/home.html?os=PC-BSD Why is this? I would think both should show the same value, or you better add explanation to the web page why the count is different. As was explained earlier, normal operation looks at the past couple of months, to deal with cases, where, for instance, someone has it set to only report on reboot, but not monthly ... due to the countries issue that you pointed out, I made a slight change while things restabilize so that it is only showing this month's stats ... I will expand it again as the old data for countries fades away ... The descrepancy above is due to the sub-OS pages not using the same DB query as the upper one, and as I didn't do the web front end, and the person who did is no longer around, I have to figure out *how* the code he wrote works, especially for those sub pages (template system, as there is no /bt/ file system *on* the server ... As to the rest ... especially the comments about the web site itself ... feel like stepping into the breach on that one? I have no creative talent for doing a web page, which is why I recruited someone way back when ... Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scra...@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappySkype: hub.orgICQ:7615664MSN:scra...@hub.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Addition to BSDstats
On Wed, 5 May 2010, Randi Harper wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2010, Chris Whitehouse wrote: I seem to have probs with mine too. I was under the impression that bsdstats was installed by default (in the base system?) There has been talk about adding it as an option to sysinstall, but, unfortunately, I don't have enough knowledge of sysinstall to add it, and nobody else has step'd forward that does ... the idea wasn't to auto-install/enable, but to make it more visible while you are installing ... Anyone out there able to do this ... ? I have not heard any talk about this up until this email. Its been brought up a few times over the past couple of years ... I wouldn't want to add an option to sysinstall for this unless bsdstats was part of base. Since it is just a script that was designed specifically so that it doesn't require any other ports to be installed, *in theory* it could just be dump'd into /etc/periodic/monthly without any issues ... But, if it were ... unlike PC-BSD, it would have to be opt-in, not opt-out ... based on all of the discussions in the past, and I agree, nobody would appreciate (and outcry would be heavy) if someone were to add an 'opt-out phone home script' that they didn't consciously enable ... Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scra...@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappySkype: hub.orgICQ:7615664MSN:scra...@hub.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Addition to BSDstats
mikel king wrote: On May 5, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Randi Harper wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2010, Chris Whitehouse wrote: I seem to have probs with mine too. I was under the impression that bsdstats was installed by default (in the base system?) There has been talk about adding it as an option to sysinstall, but, unfortunately, I don't have enough knowledge of sysinstall to add it, and nobody else has step'd forward that does ... the idea wasn't to auto-install/enable, but to make it more visible while you are installing ... Anyone out there able to do this ... ? I have not heard any talk about this up until this email. I wouldn't want to add an option to sysinstall for this unless bsdstats was part of base. If it were, this would be trivial, but I don't really want to pop up any optional package menus other than what already exists. -- randi This idea was mentioned a few years as a way to improve advocacy statistics. Something short and sweet, with a one or two line explanation encouraging people to install the BSDStats system. If it were a yes/no option similar to the Would you like to install Linux Compatibility then it would be a no brainer. Honestly this seems relatively unobtrusive and quite logical. You're right, it is just for advocacy statistics. bsdstats is not an integral part of system operation. We prompt for Linux Compatibility because it could be needed for technical reasons. While advocacy is certainly important, the installer needs to be simplified, not complicated even more with unnecessary options and menus. -- randi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Addition to BSDstats
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Randi Harper ra...@freebsd.org wrote: This idea was mentioned a few years as a way to improve advocacy statistics. Something short and sweet, with a one or two line explanation encouraging people to install the BSDStats system. If it were a yes/no option similar to the Would you like to install Linux Compatibility then it would be a no brainer. Honestly this seems relatively unobtrusive and quite logical. You're right, it is just for advocacy statistics. bsdstats is not an integral part of system operation. We prompt for Linux Compatibility because it could be needed for technical reasons. While advocacy is certainly important, the installer needs to be simplified, not complicated even more with unnecessary options and menus. It could be placed in the yes/no questions at the end of the install. Debian does something similar. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
