Re: [#24506597] apache 2.2.15_7 upgrade fails

2010-05-19 Thread dedicated

Hi, 

Let us know the server IP in question, along with the root login details so we 
could check further. 
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Server Engineer
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Re: Apache web server being attacked

2010-05-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
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On 19/05/2010 04:55:26, Aiza wrote:
 I take a totally different approach to this problem for my production
 web sites. This is the result of people running scripts that roll
 through a large block of ip address scanning each ip address for open
 [STANDARD\] ports, and when they find port 80 open, they then attack the
 web server. The simple solution is not to have your web server use the
 standard port 80. Your web site is not know by it's ip address but by
 it's url (ie; www.domain-name.com.). My domain name register has option
 to associate my www.domain-name.com with any port number I want to use
 at the specified ip address. This way my web site has total access by
 anyone who knows it's URl, the URL is scanned by yahoo and google
 indexing bot and becomes know to the public. Nobody knows or cares that
 the web site is not using port 80. I then close inbound port 80 in my
 firewall thus locking out all the script kiddies who run the port scan
 on standard ports. This method has worked for me the last 10 years
 without ever having my production web servers attacked. Sure some nay
 sayers will counter by saying all the scanners have to do is scan all
 the ports. Yah sure that can be done, but in 10 years it has never
 occurred.

If the URL for your site is http://www.domain-name.com/ then any client
that attempts to access it will try to connect to port 80.  That's the
point of having well known ports.  Now, you can explicitly state a
different port in the URL:  http://www.domain-name.com:8080/ but this is
generally only useful amongst a closed group of users: the general
public will on the whole just get confused, so it's not often
encountered on general access websites.

Your domain registrar can't control anything to do with port numbers.
For some unknown reason this is a common misconception, particularly
among management types.  The DNS only associates hostnames with ip
numbers and vice versa[*].  Now, it may be the case that your server is
behind some sort of NAT/PAT gateway or HTTP reverse proxy, and that
locally you are running apache bound to some arbitrary port numbers.
Which is fine, but unless you are specifically telling people to use a
different port in your URLs, then the world at large is accessing your
site through port 80.  Which means that port scanners can certainly find
it and attempt to attack it.  Guess what?  Because the attacks are in
the form of valid HTTP queries, they'd go straight through any sort of
port address translation just like your normal traffic.

What I think you're actually doing is that all your web sites use name
based virtual hosts.  So a query to the IP number of your server gets
directed to a different bit of the apache config (and probably rejected)
compared to a query to a site by name.  That's actually a pretty good
design, and if you combine it with a reverse proxy which knows about
what hosts and URLs should be behind it, you can filter out a lot of bad
traffic very effectively before it gets anywhere near your real web server.

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] I speak loosely.  That's the way it works for the HTTP(S) protocol
used by websites.  For some more recently specified protocols like XMPP
the situation is different.

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Re: [#24506597] apache 2.2.15_7 upgrade fails

2010-05-19 Thread Michael Powell
dedica...@midphase.com wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 Let us know the server IP in question, along with the root login details
 so we could check further.

And, of course, since this content is currently being mirrored on the public 
mailing list freebsd-questions it will be publicly available. While most of 
the true list users are professionals who would not abuse such information, 
that cannot be said for all the people who may come across such publicly 
available information.

-Mike


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Re: [#24506597] apache 2.2.15_7 upgrade fails

2010-05-19 Thread dedicated
Hi, 

Please let us know if there is anything we could assist you with, thanks. 
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Re: using automounter (automatically mounting USB drives)

2010-05-19 Thread Alexandre L.
To enable it at system startup, you must add the following line to /etc/rc.conf 
: 
automounter_enable=YES

--- En date de : Mar 18.5.10, David DEMELIER demelier.da...@gmail.com a 
écrit :

 De: David DEMELIER demelier.da...@gmail.com
 Objet: Re: using automounter (automatically mounting USB drives)
 À: Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Mardi 18 mai 2010, 21h07
 2010/5/18 Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com:
  How can I automatically mount USB drives when I plug
 them in?
  I found a program sysutils/automounter which appears
 to create a link
  /media/msdosfs/USB20FD but doesn't actually mount
 anything.
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 I don't know sysutils/automounter, but the
 
 COMMENT=        Provides scripts to
 dynamically configure amd
 
 would means that it only prepare the devices entries to be
 used by the
 amd(8) daemon (amd — automatically mount file systems)
 
 Take a look at the amd(8) manpage (I can't help you I never
 used it)
 and the rc.conf(5) to enable it.
 
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7.0/i386 to 8.0/amd64 - gmirror/gstripe migration

2010-05-19 Thread Amaru Netapshaak
Hi!

I am planning to move from 7.0-REL-i386 to 8.0-REL-amd64 
in the near future.  My OS drive is a single
ata-133 80gb drive, and 
my data drives are four 1.5TB SATA drives.  6TB total, configured as 2x 
3TB 
'gstripe' volumes, and I am using gmirror to mirror those 
gstripe volumes.  I hope that makes sense.

In any case, I'd like 
to just unplug the drives, do my upgrade, plug the drives back in, and 
startup the
array as I have in 7.0.I'm planning to just do a 
fresh install of 8.0 on a new SATA 80GB drive and
make that my new OS drive. 

Does anyone foresee any serious problems with this 
plan?  I know doing a whole version upgrade can
sometimes introduce 
bugs when dealing with old setups, so I just want to cover my bases prior to 
the work.

I am backing up this system to another 
system, so if I end up losing the data or having to rebuild the
array, that's fine, it just sucks having to copy the 2TB of data over the wire 
afterward.

Thanks for your help!

++AMARU



  
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tar and --include

2010-05-19 Thread Martin McCormick
A few days ago, I asked about the --include directive in tar
after things didn't quite work the way the man page seemed to
indicate. One might get the impression that if --include or
--include='*pattern*' was added to a tar command, tar would only
archive what was in the pattern and not archive everything as
its default operation.

What I discovered was that --include doesn't appear to
do anything at all. The example in the man page shows using it
to filter an existing archive and make a tar file of what was in
the existing archive that also matched the pattern. I never
tried that since that is not what was needed here.

What turned out to work very well was to use the feature
in tar that lets one exclude a whole list of patterns in a
designated file. You just put in what shouldn't be in the
archive and it appeared to work fine.

The --include directive only seems to exist in the
FreeBSD form of tar. I tried a Linux system's tar man page and
it is not there but both support the -X path/filename for a list
of exclusion patterns.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group
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Help With pptpclient Setup

2010-05-19 Thread Drew Tomlinson
I'm using FBSD 8.0-STABLE and trying to connect to a Cisco VPN at work.  
Windows PCs connect with the basic Microsoft dial-up networking client.  
Thus I assume pptpclient is my answer for FBSD.


My work network is a class B but it's used as 254 class C networks.  The 
vpn server address is part of that class B network.  The VPN server 
gives me a class C address.  Let's use these addresses as an example:


10.0.18.10 is the VPN server
10.0.206.150/24 is the IP address my client will be given
10.0.0.0/16 is my entire work network.

I've followed examples at http://www.freebsddiary.org/pptp.php and 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/userppp.html.  My ppp.conf 
file looks like this:


default:
  set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command
  ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE)

WORK:
 set authname myusername
 set authkey mypassword
 set timeout 0
 set ifaddr 0 0
 add 10.0.206.0/24 HISADDR
 alias enable yes

/var/log/message shows this when trying to make a connection:

May 19 08:50:34 vm pptp[89300]: anon log[main:pptp.c:314]: The 
synchronous pptp option is NOT activated
May 19 08:50:34 vm pptp[89305]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: 
Sent control packet type is 1 'Start-Control-Connection-Request'
May 19 08:50:34 vm pptp[89305]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:739]: 
Received Start Control Connection Reply
May 19 08:50:34 vm pptp[89305]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:773]: 
Client connection established.
May 19 08:50:35 vm pptp[89305]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: 
Sent control packet type is 7 'Outgoing-Call-Request'
May 19 08:50:35 vm pptp[89305]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:858]: 
Received Outgoing Call Reply.
May 19 08:50:35 vm pptp[89305]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:897]: 
Outgoing call established (call ID 0, peer's call ID 34636).

May 19 08:50:36 vm kernel: tun0: link state changed to UP
May 19 08:50:36 vm ppp[89300]: tun0: Warning: The alias command is 
deprecated
May 19 08:51:35 vm pptp[89305]: anon log[logecho:pptp_ctrl.c:677]: Echo 
Request received.
May 19 08:51:35 vm pptp[89305]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: 
Sent control packet type is 6 'Echo-Reply'


The above lasts for a minute or two and then:

May 19 08:52:56 vm pptp[89305]: anon 
log[pptp_read_some:pptp_ctrl.c:551]: read error: Operation timed out
May 19 08:52:56 vm pptp[89305]: anon 
log[callmgr_main:pptp_callmgr.c:258]: Closing connection (shutdown)
May 19 08:52:56 vm pptp[89305]: anon 
log[pptp_send_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:622]: write error: Broken pipe
May 19 08:52:56 vm pptp[89305]: anon 
log[call_callback:pptp_callmgr.c:79]: Closing connection (call state)
May 19 08:52:56 vm pptp[89305]: anon 
log[pptp_read_some:pptp_ctrl.c:551]: read error: Bad file descriptor
May 19 08:52:56 vm ppp[89300]: tun0: Warning: deflink: Unable to set 
physical to speed 0
May 19 08:52:56 vm ppp[89300]: tun0: Warning: deflink: Unable to set 
physical to speed 0
May 19 08:52:56 vm ppp[89300]: tun0: Warning: deflink: tcsetattr: Unable 
to restore device settings

May 19 08:52:56 vm kernel: tun0: link state changed to DOWN
May 19 08:52:56 vm kernel: pid 89305 (pptp), uid 0: exited on signal 11 
(core dumped)


Before core dump above, route table shows:

# netstat -rn
Routing tables

Internet:
DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif Expire
default192.168.1.2UGS 8  2203286em0
127.0.0.1  link#6 UH  044531lo0
10.0.18.10  link#7 UHS 0   176240   tun0
10.0.206.0/24   159.145.18.10  UGS 00   tun0
10.0.206.150link#7 UHS 00lo0
192.168.1.0/24 link#2 U   6 10627552em0
192.168.1.6link#2 UHS 00lo0

And ifconfig shows tun0 as:

tun0: flags=8051UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1498
options=8LINKSTATE
inet 10.0.206.150 -- 10.0.18.10 netmask 0x
Opened by PID 89300

So what am I doing wrong?  I suspect routing is an issue.  Wouldn't I 
need a route that points all 10.0.0.0/16 traffic to tun0 but another 
route that specifically sends 10.0.18.10/32 to my default gateway of 
192.168.1.2?  And if so, how do I properly specify that in my ppp.conf?


Thanks,

Drew





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Re: natd in 8.1

2010-05-19 Thread Casey Scott
I haven't had a chance to work on this yet. I'll be out of town for a little 
while, and will update the thread upon my arrival.

Thanks.


Casey

- Коньков Евгений kes-...@yandex.ru wrote:

 Здравствуйте, Casey.
 
 What does natd with '-v' options shows? what is aliasing?
 
 You must bind natd to external interface
 
 NEVER DO: any to any divert!!!
 
 NOTICE: no traffice go through this rule
 CS 05000 00 divert 8668 ip from any to any out via fxp0
 
 NEVER DO: open firewall because of security reasons
 CS 0500129 1484 allow ip from any to any
 
 All 'ALLOW' rules are useless! because of 5001 rule
 
 
 You drop all traffic before divert ;-) this make me confused a little
 CS 04000   75224282 deny log logamount 1 ip from any to any
 CS 05000 00 divert 8668 ip from any to any out via fxp0
 
 
 NOTICE:
 CS 0120029 1484 skipto 5000 ip from 192.168.1.0/24 to any out
 via fxp0 setup keep-state
 maybe there some bugs in ipfw, try 4999
 
 
 Please post where problem were for other readers with same question
 thank
 
 Вы писали 18 мая 2010 г., 18:51:10:
 
 CS I recently rebuilt a server from 7.x to 8.x.  Using the exact
 CS same firewall  natd config, natd appears not to be aliasing the
 CS private address when the traffic leaves the external interface. 
 CS When sniffing traffic w/ tcpdump, I see the private address as
 the
 CS source address on the outbound request. 
 
 CS e.g.
 
 CS 192.168.1.1  = internal source of request
 CS 74.75.76.77 = public address (website)
 CS 12.13.14.15 = 
 
 CSInternalExternal
 192.168.1.10  -   74.75.76.77(NAT)   192.168.1.10 - 
 74.75.76.77
 
 
 CS Rather than  it should be:
 
 
 
 CSInternalExternal
 192.168.1.10  -   74.75.76.77(NAT)   12.13.14.15 - 
 74.75.76.77
 
 
 CS Watching natd with ktrace shows that no traffic gets passed to
 CS natd when the source is internal, however external traffic passes
 through it.
 
 CS Firewall config:
 CS
 ---
 CS 00200 11946  3204818 allow ip from any to any via lo0
 CS 00300 00 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
 CS 0030110  528 deny ip from any to 74.94.69.225 dst-port
 445
 CS 00302 1   78 deny ip from any to 74.94.69.225 dst-port
 137
 CS 00303 9  544 deny ip from any to 74.94.69.225 dst-port
 135
 CS 00304 00 deny ip from 224.0.0.0/4 to any via fxp0
 CS 00305   67118788 deny ip from any to 224.0.0.0/4 via fxp0
 CS 01000  9093  1158436 allow ip from any to any via em0
 CS 01050 51045  5205047 divert 8668 ip from any to any in via fxp0
 CS 01100 00 check-state
 CS 01100 69183 83429465 allow ip from me to any
 CS 0120029 1484 skipto 5000 ip from 192.168.1.0/24 to any out
 via fxp0 setup keep-state
 CS 01201 00 skipto 5000 udp from 192.168.1.0/24 to any
 out via fxp0 keep-state
 CS 01202 45002  4690467 allow ip from any to any established
 CS 01800  142172620 allow tcp from any to me dst-port
 20,21,53,76,80,123,443
 CS 01900 3  194 allow ip from 216.251.112.0/24,208.95.100.4
 to any
 CS 02000   530   127559 allow udp from any 53 to any
 CS 02100   83459414 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53
 CS 02150  1930   146680 allow udp from any 123 to me dst-port 123
 CS 02200   46839312 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 0,3,11
 CS 04000   75224282 deny log logamount 1 ip from any to any
 CS 05000 00 divert 8668 ip from any to any out via fxp0
 CS 0500129 1484 allow ip from any to any
 CS 65535 00 deny ip from any to any
 CS
 ---
 
 CS natd.conf
 CS
 ---
 CS use_sockets
 CS same_ports
 CS unregistered_only
 CS interface fxp0
 
 CS redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.82:82   82
 CS redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.41:8082 8082
 CS redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.3:3389  3389
 CS redirect_port udp 192.168.1.3:3389  3389
 CS redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.6:6881-6889 6881-6889
 CS
 ---
 
 
 CS As I previously stated, this exact same config worked great in
 CS 7.x. I built a kernel in 8.x w/ IPFIREWALL  IPDIVERT, and
 CS reviewed UPDATING.  Have I missed something? 
 
 CS TIA,
 CS Casey
 
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Re: Help With pptpclient Setup

2010-05-19 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Drew Tomlinson d...@mykitchentable.netwrote:

 I'm using FBSD 8.0-STABLE and trying to connect to a Cisco VPN at work.
  Windows PCs connect with the basic Microsoft dial-up networking client.
  Thus I assume pptpclient is my answer for FBSD.


I would think GRE would be the answer here.

http://www.packtpub.com/article/network-configuration-tunneling-with-free-bsd
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ipsec.html

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Re: Help With pptpclient Setup

2010-05-19 Thread Drew Tomlinson

On 5/19/2010 10:14 AM, Adam Vande More wrote:

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Drew Tomlinsond...@mykitchentable.netwrote:

   

I'm using FBSD 8.0-STABLE and trying to connect to a Cisco VPN at work.
  Windows PCs connect with the basic Microsoft dial-up networking client.
  Thus I assume pptpclient is my answer for FBSD.

 

I would think GRE would be the answer here.

http://www.packtpub.com/article/network-configuration-tunneling-with-free-bsd
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ipsec.html
   


Thanks for your reply.  However I do not see how to pass my 
username/password to the Cisco VPN in either of those 2 links.


FWIW, I've found more detailed logs that suggest I'm making the initial 
connection and being authenticated.  I just don't understand what has to 
happen next.  Here's my log:


May 19 10:00:43 vm ppp[89700]: Phase: Using interface: tun0
May 19 10:00:43 vm ppp[89700]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state
May 19 10:00:43 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: PPP Started (direct mode).
May 19 10:00:43 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish
May 19 10:00:43 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed - opening
May 19 10:00:43 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected!
May 19 10:00:43 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening - carrier
May 19 10:00:44 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: deflink: /dev/pts/5: CD detected
May 19 10:00:44 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: deflink: carrier - lcp
May 19 10:00:45 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Authenticate
May 19 10:00:45 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his = CHAP 0x81, 
mine = none

May 19 10:00:45 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: Chap Input: CHALLENGE (16 bytes)
May 19 10:00:45 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: Chap Output: RESPONSE (username)
May 19 10:00:45 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: Chap Input: CHALLENGE (16 bytes)
May 19 10:00:45 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: Chap Output: RESPONSE (username)
May 19 10:00:45 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: Chap Input: SUCCESS 
(S=078026768A691A7716A3AE855F67492A2D9F3F73)

May 19 10:00:45 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp - open
May 19 10:00:45 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Network
May 19 10:02:53 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: Signal 15, terminate.
May 19 10:02:53 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: Signal 15, terminate.
May 19 10:03:08 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Terminate
May 19 10:03:08 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: deflink: open - lcp
May 19 10:03:23 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
May 19 10:03:23 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 160 
secs: 513 octets in, 5886370561 octets out
May 19 10:03:23 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: deflink: 16 packets in, 
9795297 packets out
May 19 10:03:23 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase:  total 36789819 bytes/sec, 
peak 52339780 bytes/sec on Wed May 19 10:02:43 2010

May 19 10:03:23 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp - closed
May 19 10:03:23 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Dead
May 19 10:03:23 vm ppp[89700]: tun0: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal).
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Re: using automounter (automatically mounting USB drives)

2010-05-19 Thread Eitan Adler
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Alexandre L. axel...@ymail.com wrote:
 To enable it at system startup, you must add the following line to 
 /etc/rc.conf :
 automounter_enable=YES

Which I have already done. However this only causes the labels in
/media to appear to disappear. It does not seem like it actually
mounts anything.

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downloading e-mail is blocking network

2010-05-19 Thread Marco Beishuizen

Hi,

I'm having a strange network problem. Every day, when I turn on my 
computer, fetchmail is started and procmail is putting all my mail in the 
correct mailboxes. This takes some time because I receive a few hundred 
e-mails a day (mostly mailing lists).


The strange thing is that when the e-mail is being downloaded, all other 
network traffic seems blocked. So browsing the internet is not possible 
when fetchmail/procmail is busy. At first I thought I had a problem with 
DNS and/or DHCP and/or my ADSL modem because after a reset of the modem, 
the problem mostly went away, and there were some hostname not found 
errors in my logfiles. But today I just waited for a while and discovered 
that when fetchmail/procmail is finished, the internet suddenly was 
reachable again.


So has anyone has seen fetchmail/procmail blocking network traffic before?

Regards,
Marco

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Re: downloading e-mail is blocking network

2010-05-19 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi, Marco--

On May 19, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Marco Beishuizen wrote:
 I'm having a strange network problem. Every day, when I turn on my computer, 
 fetchmail is started and procmail is putting all my mail in the correct 
 mailboxes. This takes some time because I receive a few hundred e-mails a day 
 (mostly mailing lists).
 
 The strange thing is that when the e-mail is being downloaded, all other 
 network traffic seems blocked. So browsing the internet is not possible when 
 fetchmail/procmail is busy. At first I thought I had a problem with DNS 
 and/or DHCP and/or my ADSL modem because after a reset of the modem, the 
 problem mostly went away, and there were some hostname not found errors in 
 my logfiles. But today I just waited for a while and discovered that when 
 fetchmail/procmail is finished, the internet suddenly was reachable again.
 
 So has anyone has seen fetchmail/procmail blocking network traffic before?

Are you using NAT?

It sounds like something has a limited number of NAT state slots available, and 
is dropping connections past that limit.  It probably will help to try to 
serialize the activity of fetchmail / procmail so that they aren't opening new 
connections for every email being processed, if that is what is going on.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Re: downloading e-mail is blocking network

2010-05-19 Thread krad
On 19 May 2010 20:21, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi, Marco--

 On May 19, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Marco Beishuizen wrote:
  I'm having a strange network problem. Every day, when I turn on my
 computer, fetchmail is started and procmail is putting all my mail in the
 correct mailboxes. This takes some time because I receive a few hundred
 e-mails a day (mostly mailing lists).
 
  The strange thing is that when the e-mail is being downloaded, all other
 network traffic seems blocked. So browsing the internet is not possible when
 fetchmail/procmail is busy. At first I thought I had a problem with DNS
 and/or DHCP and/or my ADSL modem because after a reset of the modem, the
 problem mostly went away, and there were some hostname not found errors in
 my logfiles. But today I just waited for a while and discovered that when
 fetchmail/procmail is finished, the internet suddenly was reachable again.
 
  So has anyone has seen fetchmail/procmail blocking network traffic
 before?

 Are you using NAT?

 It sounds like something has a limited number of NAT state slots available,
 and is dropping connections past that limit.  It probably will help to try
 to serialize the activity of fetchmail / procmail so that they aren't
 opening new connections for every email being processed, if that is what is
 going on.

 Regards,
 --
 -Chuck

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I'd be surprised if its that as you would have to have 1000's of connections
open to cause an issue like that, even one a fairly low end router.

One simple way round would be to schedule your computer to turn on an hour
or so before you need to use it. A lot of bios have this feature these days
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Livefs/fixit

2010-05-19 Thread Peter Clark

Hello,

I have a amd64 8.0-RELEASE-P2 FreeBSD box. I was building a spam/av 
gateway. Something has happened and there seems to be some OS 
corruption. I am not sure what did it but symlinks all over the system 
seem to be gone. Links like /home pointing at /usr/home. The data is 
still there in /usr/home/user_blah but the link pointing there is gone. 
There could be more issues that I have not discovered yet. I would like 
to repair the base os from the 8.0 DVD. I believe I should use the 
livecd/fixit method. Is this the right way to go about doing this? Are 
there some concise instructions for this? Will this affect the installed 
ports, ie. things like getting rid of all the configs in /usr/local/etc, 
rc.conf, passwd, /etc/groups ? I imagine I will need to reinstall all 
the ports like one would do after a buildworld.


Any help would be appreciated.

Peter
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Re: downloading e-mail is blocking network

2010-05-19 Thread Marco Beishuizen

On Wed, 19 May 2010, Chuck Swiger wrote:


Are you using NAT?


Not that I know of.

It sounds like something has a limited number of NAT state slots 
available, and is dropping connections past that limit.  It probably 
will help to try to serialize the activity of fetchmail / procmail so 
that they aren't opening new connections for every email being 
processed, if that is what is going on.


Seems worth trying to increase this number but how do I do that? Is this 
changable in FreeBSD or do I change this in the modem (couldn't find 
anything about this in the modem though)?


Regards,
Marco
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Re: downloading e-mail is blocking network

2010-05-19 Thread Chuck Swiger
On May 19, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Marco Beishuizen wrote:
 On Wed, 19 May 2010, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 Are you using NAT?
 
 Not that I know of.

You presumably would know from the IP your machine has-- if it's RFC-1918 
unroutable, NAT is involved.

 It sounds like something has a limited number of NAT state slots available, 
 and is dropping connections past that limit.  It probably will help to try 
 to serialize the activity of fetchmail / procmail so that they aren't 
 opening new connections for every email being processed, if that is what is 
 going on.
 
 Seems worth trying to increase this number but how do I do that? Is this 
 changable in FreeBSD or do I change this in the modem (couldn't find anything 
 about this in the modem though)?

It would be in whatever device is doing NAT, assuming it is being used.
Running tcpdump against your traffic during this sort of problem would likely 
be informative.

Regards,
-- 
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Re: 7.0/i386 to 8.0/amd64 - gmirror/gstripe migration

2010-05-19 Thread Amaru Netapshaak

No one has any idea?  :(

++AMARU






From: Amaru Netapshaak postfix_am...@yahoo.com
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 9:33:14 AM
Subject: 7.0/i386 to 8.0/amd64 - gmirror/gstripe migration

Hi!

I am planning to move from 7.0-REL-i386 to 8.0-REL-amd64 
in the near future.  My OS drive is a single
ata-133 80gb drive, and 
my data drives are four 1.5TB SATA drives.  6TB total, configured as 2x 
3TB 
'gstripe' volumes, and I am using gmirror to mirror those 
gstripe volumes.  I hope that makes sense.

In any case, I'd like 
to just unplug the drives, do my upgrade, plug the drives back in, and 
startup the
array as I have in 7.0.I'm planning to just do a 
fresh install of 8.0 on a new SATA 80GB drive and
make that my new OS drive. 

Does anyone foresee any serious problems with this 
plan?  I know doing a whole version upgrade can
sometimes introduce 
bugs when dealing with old setups, so I just want to cover my bases prior to 
the work.

I am backing up this system to another 
system, so if I end up losing the data or having to rebuild the
array, that's fine, it just sucks having to copy the 2TB of data over the wire 
afterward.

Thanks for your help!

++AMARU



  
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Bash lockups

2010-05-19 Thread Carl Johnson
I have been experimenting with FreeBSD for a while, and I consistently
get bash lockups at irregular intervals when it is otherwise idle.  By
lockup, I mean that it stops responding to the keyboard and uses 100%
CPU.  It will sometimes go for days with no problems, but I had two
yesterday, and other today.  They have occurred on test systems
running in VirtualBox and on a real computer, both i386 and amd64
images, and a mixture of 7.1, 7.3 and 8.0.  They usually seem to
happen when I am switching tabs in konsole or switching shells in
screen, but other times I think they happen when I am not even using
the system.  The only thing I have found I can do is to do a kill -9
and start a new shell.

Does anybody have any suggestings on how I could try to trace this?  I
haven't been able to find any bug reports, but I don't know enough to
know how to search the FreeBSD problem reports very well.

Thanks for any help.  I already subscribe to this list, so there is no
need to cc me.
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Re: Apache web server being attacked

2010-05-19 Thread Aiza

Matthew Seaman wrote:

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On 19/05/2010 04:55:26, Aiza wrote:

I take a totally different approach to this problem for my production
web sites. This is the result of people running scripts that roll
through a large block of ip address scanning each ip address for open
[STANDARD\] ports, and when they find port 80 open, they then attack the
web server. The simple solution is not to have your web server use the
standard port 80. Your web site is not know by it's ip address but by
it's url (ie; www.domain-name.com.). My domain name register has option
to associate my www.domain-name.com with any port number I want to use
at the specified ip address. This way my web site has total access by
anyone who knows it's URl, the URL is scanned by yahoo and google
indexing bot and becomes know to the public. Nobody knows or cares that
the web site is not using port 80. I then close inbound port 80 in my
firewall thus locking out all the script kiddies who run the port scan
on standard ports. This method has worked for me the last 10 years
without ever having my production web servers attacked. Sure some nay
sayers will counter by saying all the scanners have to do is scan all
the ports. Yah sure that can be done, but in 10 years it has never
occurred.


If the URL for your site is http://www.domain-name.com/ then any client
that attempts to access it will try to connect to port 80.  That's the
point of having well known ports.  Now, you can explicitly state a
different port in the URL:  http://www.domain-name.com:8080/ but this is
generally only useful amongst a closed group of users: the general
public will on the whole just get confused, so it's not often
encountered on general access websites.

Your domain registrar can't control anything to do with port numbers.
For some unknown reason this is a common misconception, particularly
among management types.  The DNS only associates hostnames with ip
numbers and vice versa[*].  Now, it may be the case that your server is
behind some sort of NAT/PAT gateway or HTTP reverse proxy, and that
locally you are running apache bound to some arbitrary port numbers.
Which is fine, but unless you are specifically telling people to use a
different port in your URLs, then the world at large is accessing your
site through port 80.  Which means that port scanners can certainly find
it and attempt to attack it.  Guess what?  Because the attacks are in
the form of valid HTTP queries, they'd go straight through any sort of
port address translation just like your normal traffic.

What I think you're actually doing is that all your web sites use name
based virtual hosts.  So a query to the IP number of your server gets
directed to a different bit of the apache config (and probably rejected)
compared to a query to a site by name.  That's actually a pretty good
design, and if you combine it with a reverse proxy which knows about
what hosts and URLs should be behind it, you can filter out a lot of bad
traffic very effectively before it gets anywhere near your real web server.

Cheers,

Matthew


Matthew
Nothing is worse than someone insinuating the original poster don't know 
what they are talking about. I find your remarks totally un-necessary. 
Your telling the poster they don't know what their doing when it's you 
who don't know what options are offered by their register. How can you 
say something is not available when you are not the one using or 
providing the register service. For you information port forwarding is 
common function when the domain name is specified to a dynamic ip 
address. Check out http://www.zoneedit.com/







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Re: 7.2 to 8.0 upgrade issues

2010-05-19 Thread osp
On Tue, 18 May 2010 13:28:46 -0500 Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:28 AM, n dhert ndhert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Upgrading a freebsd7.2 (i386) system to 8.0
  After
  # freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE upgrade
  # freebsd-update install
  reboot
  # freebsd-update install
  I did
  # portupgrade -af --batch --yes
  after 17 hours (mostly during the night..), it finished with
  ---  ** Upgrade tasks 425: 199 done, 1 ignored, 3 skipped and 1 failed
  (no error messages here..)
  Unfortunately, I didn't log the screen output to a file ..
  - how can I find out what port failed and which where skipped and ignored?
  - is it normal this didn't recompile all 425 ports?
  - to rebuild the failed port: is # portupgrade -fr failed-port  OK?
 
 
..
 but make sure you're following /usr/ports/UPDATING.  

This is extremely important. The UPDATING file is in reverse chronological
order and each ent list the port affected.

I am a fan of portupgrade.

To get a list of ports that are not up to date use pkg_version -v. 

At this point you should not need the -f option to portupgrade. No need to
waste time rebuilding ports that do not ned rebuilding. portupgrade -a
should be all you need.

Another way to reveal what did not get updated is to run

portupgrade -an

The -n will cause portupgrade to show what it would do without actually
doing anything. This won't help when port B depends on something in port A
that will be updated.

Another portupgrade option that may help you is -R.

Put it all together and you get

portupgrade -aR --batch

Note that the handbook does not show -a and -R being used together. My
thinking is that without the -R a new version of an existing port that
requires something new -- that you do not already have -- will fail. Rather
unlikely, to start with portupgrade -a --batch and use -R only if you still
getb errors.

Gary Dunn
Open Slate Project



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Re: 7.2 to 8.0 upgrade issues

2010-05-19 Thread Lowell Gilbert
o...@aloha.com writes:

 Note that the handbook does not show -a and -R being used together. My
 thinking is that without the -R a new version of an existing port that
 requires something new -- that you do not already have -- will fail. Rather
 unlikely, to start with portupgrade -a --batch and use -R only if you still
 getb errors.

This is incorrect.  -R is *entirely* redundant when -a is specified.
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Searching for functions in Perl code

2010-05-19 Thread Steve Bertrand
This is more of a handy how-to than it is a question. A permanent
'howto' as it were.

A Perl project I'm working on contains 457 functions (ie. subroutines
(ie methods)), and even though I have documentation for all of them,
sometimes it is handy to have a list in front of me.

This is how I produce the list of all sub-routines within all module
files, which includes the module name and sub.

% grep -E -r sub \w+ { * | grep -v svn | awk '{FS=:} \
{print $1,  , $2}' | awk '{FS= } {print $1,  , $3}'

...adapted to pull subs from a single file:

% cat lib/ISP/User.pm | grep -E sub \w+ { | awk '{print $2}'

For efficiency, and so I can remember more readily, my request is for
golf, particularly adaption to a Perl one-liner ;)

Cheers,

Steve

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Re: Apache web server being attacked

2010-05-19 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Aiza aiz...@comclark.com wrote:

 Nothing is worse than someone insinuating the original poster don't know
 what they are talking about. I find your remarks totally un-necessary. Your
 telling the poster they don't know what their doing when it's you who don't
 know what options are offered by their register. How can you say something
 is not available when you are not the one using or providing the register
 service. For you information port forwarding is common function when the
 domain name is specified to a dynamic ip address. Check out


No you are wrong.  Matthew is correct.  Perhaps you are confusing URL
forwarding/redirect with port forwarding, but they are completely
different.  Domains on dynamic ip address REQUIRE some method of
intervention to update the DNS record when it changes eg dns/ipcheck.  The
only way a registrar could avoid doing such thing would be if they
controlled address assignment and since registrar and ISP are rarely if ever
the same organization you are forced to use the Internet in Matthew's
reality.

As far as URL forwarding goes, there are several different methods to
accomplish it.  The safest way is to simply host the vhost and http 301 it
to the correct place.  Other methods are hackish and may not be able to be
tracked if so desired as well as other limitations.


-- 
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Re: Searching for functions in Perl code

2010-05-19 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Steve == Steve Bertrand st...@ipv6canada.com writes:

Steve This is how I produce the list of all sub-routines within all module
Steve files, which includes the module name and sub.

See perldoc B::Xref.

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freebsd on netbook

2010-05-19 Thread Anh Ky Huynh
Hello all,

I intend to buy a netbook for convenience (for many remote jobs, a netbook 
seems to be enough) whose cost is around $400. I'd like have freebsd on that 
netbook (oh, no linux, no windows, please :-) but it's hard to choose a right 
one that works fine (even with Ubuntu. See 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks.)

Does anyone experience this problem? 

Thank you for your comments.

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which utility do i use to burn some [two] of my cd's?

2010-05-19 Thread Gary Kline

guys,

sound-juicer used to let me transfer one to some N tracks of my
OLD favorites.  no mo'.  or | unless i'm mouse clicking the wrong
place.  what it the audio utility of choice these days for
freebsd?

thanks in advance,

gary


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Re: Searching for functions in Perl code

2010-05-19 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.05.19 22:05, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
 Steve == Steve Bertrand st...@ipv6canada.com writes:
 
 Steve This is how I produce the list of all sub-routines within all module
 Steve files, which includes the module name and sub.
 
 See perldoc B::Xref.

...that *might* just work, for what I want, and for far more detail later...

Steve
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Re: tar and --include

2010-05-19 Thread b. f.
Martin McCormick wrote:
A few days ago, I asked about the --include directive in tar
after things didn't quite work the way the man page seemed to
indicate. One might get the impression that if --include or
--include='*pattern*' was added to a tar command, tar would only
archive what was in the pattern and not archive everything as
its default operation.

What I discovered was that --include doesn't appear to
do anything at all. The example in the man page shows using it
to filter an existing archive and make a tar file of what was in
the existing archive that also matched the pattern. I never
tried that since that is not what was needed here.

There certainly seems to be a bug here, either in the documentation or
the implementation.  The example you mention works as expected for me
on 9-CURRENT, but the --include option fails on, for example:

tar -cvf new.tar --include='baz'  foo/bar

when the pattern baz should match files in the directory foo/bar,
regardless of whether baz contains wildcards or not, or when baz is
anchored at the start or not.  The output is garbage.



...

The --include directive only seems to exist in the
FreeBSD form of tar. I tried a Linux system's tar man page and
it is not there but both support the -X path/filename for a list
of exclusion patterns.


I don't see your point here.  For the sake of compatibility, bsdtar
aims to support GNU tar features, but not _only_ those features. The
--include option is useful for specifying files and directories to
include without having to anchor inclusion patterns from the start,
and without having to use tar -I/-T with an inclusion file, or tar in
conjunction with find(1) -- so the option should be fixed so that it
works.

b.
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Need advise.

2010-05-19 Thread payne


Guys, 

I have a box that I need to add several software
package, I can't use ports because it appears that they have blocked the
ports to do a fetch. 

So I am wondering what can I do?

Chuck
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Re: Need advise.

2010-05-19 Thread Glen Barber
Hi Chuck,

pa...@magi.magidesign.com wrote: 
 
 
 Guys, 
 
 I have a box that I need to add several software
 package, I can't use ports because it appears that they have blocked the
 ports to do a fetch. 

Who is they?  Some details would help us help you.

 
 So I am wondering what can I do?
 
 Chuck

Regards,

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 Guys, 
 
 I have a box that I need to add several software
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 ports to do a fetch. 

Who is they?  Some details would help us help you.

 
 So I am wondering what can I do?
 
 Chuck

Regards,

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Re: freebsd on netbook

2010-05-19 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 20 May 2010 09:08:48 +0700, Anh Ky Huynh xky...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I intend to buy a netbook for convenience (for many remote jobs,
 a netbook seems to be enough) whose cost is around $400. I'd 
 like have freebsd on that netbook (oh, no linux, no windows, 
 please :-) but it's hard to choose a right one that works fine 
 (even with Ubuntu. See 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks.)

There are several ways to check. One that especially fits Netbooks
is to prepare an USB stick with a FreeBSD system on it. If possible,
test the Netbook you're intending to buy at a store. See if all the
components are compatible with FreeBSD.

Another way is to check the specifications published by the Netbook
manufacturer. Compare with the FreeBSD hardware list.

A third way is to check for recommendations what models are well
supporting FreeBSD. FreeBSD on Netbook is a good searching term
to start.

In any case, having the chance to actually try the Netbook with a
FreeBSD USB stick is the most secure way NOT to buy crap.



 Does anyone experience this problem? 

Not yet, luckily. :-)



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freebsd on netbook

2010-05-19 Thread Anh K. Huynh
Hello all,

I intend to buy a netbook for convenience (for many remote jobs, a netbook 
seems to be enough) whose cost is around $400. I'd like have freebsd on that 
netbook (oh, no linux, no windows, please :-) but it's hard to choose a right 
one that works fine (even with Ubuntu. See 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks.)

Does anyone experience this problem? 

Thank you for your comments.


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Re: freebsd on netbook

2010-05-19 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 20 May 2010, Anh Ky Huynh wrote:

I intend to buy a netbook for convenience (for many remote jobs, a 
netbook seems to be enough) whose cost is around $400. I'd like have 
freebsd on that netbook (oh, no linux, no windows, please :-) but it's 
hard to choose a right one that works fine (even with Ubuntu. See 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks.)


http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html has a lot of user-supplied 
information.


I've used FreeBSD on Acer Aspire One models AOA150 and D250.  Most of 
the basic hardware is the same on all brands: Atom processor, Intel 
chipset.  Potential problem areas are card readers, wireless, and even 
wired Ethernet.


Watch out for the Poulsbo/GMA500 video in newer netbooks.  Sounds like 
xorg is questionable on them so far.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: which utility do i use to burn some [two] of my cd's?

2010-05-19 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 07:14:12PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 
 guys,
 
 sound-juicer used to let me transfer one to some N tracks of my
 OLD favorites.  no mo'.  or | unless i'm mouse clicking the wrong
 place.  what it the audio utility of choice these days for
 freebsd?

Use audio/cdparanoia for ripping CDs to wav files, then use cdrecord from the
sysutils/cdrtools port to burn the tracks to CD. With cdrecord you can burn
both data and audio CDs.

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Re: 7.0/i386 to 8.0/amd64 - gmirror/gstripe migration

2010-05-19 Thread James Phillips

 Hi!
 
 I am planning to move from 7.0-REL-i386 to 8.0-REL-amd64 
SNIP!
 Does anyone foresee any serious problems with this 
 plan?  I know doing a whole version upgrade can
 sometimes introduce 
 bugs when dealing with old setups, so I just want to cover
 my bases prior to the work.

This sounds like the kind of thing Release notes were designed for. I was not 
able to find them on the first page of the FreeBSD website, but if you click 
the big Get FreeBSD Now button, there is a link in the table detailing the 
releases:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/relnotes.html

 
 I am backing up this system to another 
 system, so if I end up losing the data or having to rebuild
 the
 array, that's fine, it just sucks having to copy the 2TB of
 data over the wire afterward.

Good idea ;)

FreeBSD no longer supports dangerously dedicated UFS filesystems (section 
2.2.5 of Detailed release notes) but I'm not sure if that is possible with 
gmirror.

 Thanks for your help!
 
 ++AMARU

PS: Your reply to yourself was in the same digest message. Not everybody is in 
your timezone either.

Regards,

James Phillips





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Re: downloading e-mail is blocking network

2010-05-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
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On 19/05/2010 21:48:36, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 On May 19, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Marco Beishuizen wrote:
 On Wed, 19 May 2010, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 Are you using NAT?

 Not that I know of.
 
 You presumably would know from the IP your machine has-- if it's RFC-1918 
 unroutable, NAT is involved.
 
 It sounds like something has a limited number of NAT state slots available, 
 and is dropping connections past that limit.  It probably will help to try 
 to serialize the activity of fetchmail / procmail so that they aren't 
 opening new connections for every email being processed, if that is what is 
 going on.

 Seems worth trying to increase this number but how do I do that? Is this 
 changable in FreeBSD or do I change this in the modem (couldn't find 
 anything about this in the modem though)?
 
 It would be in whatever device is doing NAT, assuming it is being used.
 Running tcpdump against your traffic during this sort of problem would likely 
 be informative.

Hmmm... I wonder if it could be something like this?

http://www.benzedrine.cx/ackpri.html

although at first glance, the traffic flows would be in the wrong
direction to trigger this effect.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: 7.0/i386 to 8.0/amd64 - gmirror/gstripe migration

2010-05-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
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On 20/05/2010 24:03:17, Amaru Netapshaak wrote:
 I am planning to move from 7.0-REL-i386 to 8.0-REL-amd64 
 in the near future.  My OS drive is a single
 ata-133 80gb drive, and 
 my data drives are four 1.5TB SATA drives.  6TB total, configured as 2x 
 3TB 
 'gstripe' volumes, and I am using gmirror to mirror those 
 gstripe volumes.  I hope that makes sense.

Errr... the usual way of doing this is to create mirrored pairs of
drives and then stripe the mirrors together (a.k.a RAID10 -- creating a
pair of stripes and then mirroring them is RAID0+1).  There's very
little difference in performance characteristics between the two, but
RAID10 is more failure resistant.  Think about what happens if you lose
one drive. In the RAID10 case one mirror pair runs in degraded mode. In
the RAID0+1 case, one stripe -- half of your drives -- is out of action.

 In any case, I'd like 
 to just unplug the drives, do my upgrade, plug the drives back in, and 
 startup the
 array as I have in 7.0.I'm planning to just do a 
 fresh install of 8.0 on a new SATA 80GB drive and
 make that my new OS drive. 

Should be fine.  I've done source upgrades from 7.x to 8.0 and gmirror
has just worked.

If your old 7.0 drive is still in decent working order, it might be an
idea to set up the new 8.0 drive as half of a gmirror, and then reuse
the 7.0 drive as the other half once you're happy that the upgrade
succeeded.  If the disks aren't identical, you'll need to make sure that
the new 8.0 disk is not bigger than the old 7.0 drive -- look at the
number of sectors on each disk for the best comparison.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: tar and --include

2010-05-19 Thread Tim Kientzle

b. f. wrote:

Martin McCormick wrote:

   What I discovered was that --include doesn't appear to
do anything at all. The example in the man page shows using it
to filter an existing archive ...  I never
tried that since that is not what was needed here.


The --include directive was designed to support the
case of filtering an existing archive.  GNU tar has
no equivalent to bsdtar's @archive feature and hence
has no real need for --include.

If you really need detailed control over which
files get archived, I do recommend learning how
to use find(1) in conjunction with tar.  (Just remember
to use tar's -n option!)


There certainly seems to be a bug here, either in the documentation or
the implementation.  The example you mention works as expected for me
on 9-CURRENT, but the --include option fails on, for example:

tar -cvf new.tar --include='baz'  foo/bar


In your example here, the first item
tar inspects is foo/bar, which does not match
the pattern and therefore is not included.
Excluding a directory excludes everything
in the directory.

The net result is the same as if you had specified:
   tar -cvf new.tar --exclude='foo/bar' foo/bar

Cheers,

Tim

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Re: freebsd on netbook

2010-05-19 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
 On Thu, 20 May 2010, Anh Ky Huynh wrote:

 I intend to buy a netbook for convenience (for many remote jobs, a netbook
 seems to be enough) whose cost is around $400. I'd like have freebsd on that
 netbook (oh, no linux, no windows, please :-) but it's hard to choose a
 right one that works fine (even with Ubuntu. See
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks.)

 http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html has a lot of user-supplied
 information.

 I've used FreeBSD on Acer Aspire One models AOA150 and D250.  Most of the
 basic hardware is the same on all brands: Atom processor, Intel chipset.
  Potential problem areas are card readers, wireless, and even wired
 Ethernet.

 Watch out for the Poulsbo/GMA500 video in newer netbooks.  Sounds like xorg
 is questionable on them so far.

Keep an eye on the ethernet and wireless cards too. Be sure _not_ to
buy anything that comes with Broadcom chipsets (be it ethernet or
wireless) specially if you are buying from Dell.

Best advice I could give you is:

- Set a top price: How much will you spent on it.

- Based on that number, look for the netbook you like the most (given
that they all pack almost the same hardware ... looks and probably
keyboard are what make the difference... at least until AMD/ATI
netbooks start to show up)

- Once you have a candidate, use google to try and get the output of
lspci -vv (that's 2 v, and not  1 w) from somebody running linux on
the netbook you have chosen. ( the output of pciconf -lbcv will
probably be harder to get .. )

- Make sure all the hardware ( or at least the parts you care about )
are fully supported under FreeBSD. Specially: suspend/resume as we are
talking on a netbook in here and hence .. full suspend/resume support
is vital.

- With all that info in your hands, come back, post it to the list and
ask if somebody owns the netbook you'd like to buy .. what problems
they've run into (if any) and how was their experience running FreeBSD
under that particular netboook.

- Having done that, and knowing in advanced what you are about to get
into ... just decide whether to spend your hard earned money on it or
not =)

My take?
I decided to wait (for the last 4 months with the money on my wallet)
until Dell released the new version of the Dell Latitude 2100 .. and
then the Latitude 2110 showed up a week or so ago .. After seeing they
went with the lackluster Atom N470 and it's crappy video chipset
instead of going with the new AMD/ATI combo, that they only offer
Dell Wireless cards (which AFAIK are all based on Broadcom chips)
with no option to pick an intel 5100, and knowing they use soldered
Broadcom ethernet chips, I decided not to spend my money on it and
spend it in something that works for me, instead of spending it on
something that only works for them =)

Tips:
- Do not buy anything with Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5906M ethernet cards.
- Do not buy anything with Broadcom Corporation chips
- Do not buy anything with Broadcom Corporation components
- Do not buy anything that has the word Broadcom written on it or in
its packaging, manuals or documentation.
- Always look for harware from manufacturers that make their chipsets
documentation available to the public, or at least, to the devels of
different Open Source (specially BSD) projects.
- Even if it's not my cup of tea and I am in no way recommending you
to even consider them, _do_ take a look in here as it has a lot of
information: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee

Hope that helped =)
Best luck on your buy
Gonzalo Nemmi
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