Re: x11/xfce ssh-agent once per logon for minimal (no gnome/kde) installation
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On 04/06/2010 24:39:46, Steve Franks wrote:
I'm totally lost. What I desire is to put in my passphrase for my
public key(s) when I logon to my box. Since I usually install from
ports and use xfce, I have no infrastructure for this, and I'm getting
nowhere fast. My Fedora box popped up a nice little enter
passphrase box the very first time I ssh'd to my server, and now it
'just works'. My FreeBSD boxes (which are many - everything *but* the
laptop with Fedora), 'just don't work'. I've installed everything
with 'ssh' and either 'key' or 'agent' in the name from
ports/security, and gone through the manpages, and tweaked countless
environment variables, but every time I ssh on a FreeBSD box, it
stubbornly locates the terminal I started any gui's from (i.e. meld +
bzr), and asks for the passphrase a great many times daily. Add that
I've started my gui with meld (so as to continue using said terminal
- don't love 'panels', 'choosers', 'menus', etc - guis are for word
processors and file managers, not desktops), I can't even type in the
passphrase there. I generally like using FreeBSD caveman style, but
this is starting to drive me nuts. No meld/bzr==no work from home==no
happiness ;)
Anyone have a 'standard' / FreeBSD-friendly best-practices for this?
I think I'm just cluttering up my system here.
The problem you have is that you need to start ssh-agent(1) somewhere
very early in your login process, so that your entire desktop
environment can inherit all the necessary ssh-agent settings.
Exactly what to do depends on how you get into X11. If you run
startx(1) manually when you want to switch from console to X11 then you
need to edit your ~/.xinitrc
Alternatively, if you use a display manager like xdm(1) -- ie. there's
an X based graphical login -- then you have two choices: edit your
~/.xsession or tweak the pam configuration for your login manager.
If you want to go the 'edit .xinitrc or .xsession' route then you need
to do basically the same thing for either of those two files. They're
pretty much just scripts that start up the initial X applications for
your login session: practically speaking, that means starting up your
window manager. It's possible you don't have either of those files
explicitly in your account: in either case the system will run a
standard default script if it can't find a user specific version.
The .xinitrc or .xsession file should look something like this:
#!/bin/sh
# Import user environment settings
. ${HOME}/.profile
eval $( ssh-agent -s )
# Eg. pop up an xterm so you can enter your ssh passphrase
xterm -geometry 80x24-91+0 -e /usr/bin/ssh-add -c ${HOME}/.ssh/id_rsa
# Note: no '' -- this should run in the foreground
xfce
eval $( ssh-agent -k )
#
# That's All Folks!
#
This is just a rough outline, which you should adapt to your own needs
- -- in particular there are nicer apps you can use for entering a
passphrase. Also note that you can probably omit that bit from the
.xinitrc or .xsession and have your window manager run it. In any case,
the important bits are the two 'eval' lines bracketing the
window-manager startup.
The other possibility -- which is only available if you are using a
display manager like xdm(1) -- is tweaking the pam settings. For xdm,
edit the file /etc/pam.d/xdm and uncomment the two lines mentioning
pam_ssh. Now you will be able to log into your system via xdm using
your ssh passphrase, and xdm will start up ssh-agent for your session
and add your key to it. Different display managers will have their own
pam.d files (either in /etc/pam.d or in /usr/local/etc/pam.d) but you
should be able to make equivalent changes there -- either uncomment or
add pam_ssh lines in the auth or session sections.
Cheers,
Matthew
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Re: .sh getopts
On 2010.06.04 00:35, Aiza wrote:
Have this code
shift; while getopts :ugr: arg; do case ${arg} in
u) action=freebsd-update;;
g) action=freebsd-upgrade;;
r) action=freebsd-rollback;;
?) exerr ${cmd_usage};;
esac; done; shift $(( ${OPTION} -1 ))
Command being executed looks like this, cmd action -flags
Only a single -flag in allowed on the command.
Here's my obligatory use Perl;
# it's a dirty hack out of a util script I use that calls
# methods out of a module. 99% of the code has been stripped,
# so forgive me, especially for the dirty arg count check ;)
# save file to test.pl
# chmod 755 test.pl
# Examples:
# Help:
# ./test.pl --help
# ./test.pl -h
# Man page:
# ./test.pl --man
# ./test.pl -M
copy/paste below this line, until _END_
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
use Getopt::Long;
Getopt::Long::Configure qw( bundling );
use Pod::Usage;
if ( $#ARGV 0 ) {
my $arg_num = $#ARGV +1 ;
print \nYou supplied $arg_num args, when only one is allowed\n\n;
die See $0 -h\n\n;
}
my ( $help, $man ) = 0;
my $result = GetOptions(
'update|u' = \update,
'upgrade|g' = \upgrade,
'rollback|r'= \rollback,
'help|h'= \$help,
'man|M' = \$man,
);
# begin pod2usage
pod2usage({ -verbose = 1 }) if $help;
pod2usage({ -verbose = 2 }) if $man;
sub update {
print We're updating!\n;
# do something fancy here..
exit;
}
sub upgrade
{
print We're upgrading!\n;
# more fancy stuff...
exit;
}
sub rollback {
print Ensure you have a backup, we're rolling back!\n;
# uber fancy!!!
exit;
}
=head1 NAME
perform_maintenance - Do maintenance on FreeBSD
=head1 SYNOPSIS
# Do update
./test.pl --update
./test.pl -u
# Do upgrade
./test.pl --upgrade
./test.pl -g
# Do a rollback
./test.pl --rollback
./test.pl -r
# display help
./test.pl --help
./test.pl -h
# display the manual page
./test.pl --man
./test.pl -M
=head1 OPTIONS
=over 1
=item --update | -u
Do an update... this example simply outputs 'Update' to STDOUT.
=item --upgrade | -g
Do an upgrade... this example simply outputs 'Upgrade' to STDOUT.
=item --rollback | -r
Perform a rollback... again, of course, we only print out jibberish
=back
=head1 DESCRIPTION
This is a copy/paste of a real-life Perl application that has been
cleared out of all useful code, so it could be used as an example.
It is however an extremely handy framework for accepting both the long
and short forms of parameters, and the perldoc inclusion allows one to
dump 'error' (or more favourably put) help pages onto STDOUT for the user.
=cut
__END__
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Re: .sh getopts
Steve Bertrand wrote:
On 2010.06.04 00:35, Aiza wrote:
Have this code
shift; while getopts :ugr: arg; do case ${arg} in
u) action=freebsd-update;;
g) action=freebsd-upgrade;;
r) action=freebsd-rollback;;
?) exerr ${cmd_usage};;
esac; done; shift $(( ${OPTION} -1 ))
Command being executed looks like this, cmd action -flags
Only a single -flag in allowed on the command.
Here's my obligatory use Perl;
# it's a dirty hack out of a util script I use that calls
# methods out of a module. 99% of the code has been stripped,
# so forgive me, especially for the dirty arg count check ;)
# save file to test.pl
# chmod 755 test.pl
# Examples:
# Help:
# ./test.pl --help
# ./test.pl -h
# Man page:
# ./test.pl --man
# ./test.pl -M
copy/paste below this line, until _END_
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
use Getopt::Long;
Getopt::Long::Configure qw( bundling );
use Pod::Usage;
if ( $#ARGV 0 ) {
my $arg_num = $#ARGV +1 ;
print \nYou supplied $arg_num args, when only one is allowed\n\n;
die See $0 -h\n\n;
}
my ( $help, $man ) = 0;
my $result = GetOptions(
'update|u' = \update,
'upgrade|g' = \upgrade,
'rollback|r'= \rollback,
'help|h'= \$help,
'man|M' = \$man,
);
# begin pod2usage
pod2usage({ -verbose = 1 }) if $help;
pod2usage({ -verbose = 2 }) if $man;
sub update {
print We're updating!\n;
# do something fancy here..
exit;
}
sub upgrade
{
print We're upgrading!\n;
# more fancy stuff...
exit;
}
sub rollback {
print Ensure you have a backup, we're rolling back!\n;
# uber fancy!!!
exit;
}
=head1 NAME
perform_maintenance - Do maintenance on FreeBSD
=head1 SYNOPSIS
# Do update
./test.pl --update
./test.pl -u
# Do upgrade
./test.pl --upgrade
./test.pl -g
# Do a rollback
./test.pl --rollback
./test.pl -r
# display help
./test.pl --help
./test.pl -h
# display the manual page
./test.pl --man
./test.pl -M
=head1 OPTIONS
=over 1
=item --update | -u
Do an update... this example simply outputs 'Update' to STDOUT.
=item --upgrade | -g
Do an upgrade... this example simply outputs 'Upgrade' to STDOUT.
=item --rollback | -r
Perform a rollback... again, of course, we only print out jibberish
=back
=head1 DESCRIPTION
This is a copy/paste of a real-life Perl application that has been
cleared out of all useful code, so it could be used as an example.
It is however an extremely handy framework for accepting both the long
and short forms of parameters, and the perldoc inclusion allows one to
dump 'error' (or more favourably put) help pages onto STDOUT for the user.
Steve Bertrand as the subject says .sh not perl.
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portsnap refuse
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/var/empty has schg flag turned on. Why?
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hal-0.5.14_7 to _8 upgrade problem
I have a problem with upgrading hal-0.5.14_7 to hal-0.5.14_8 how to solve this? --- cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../.. -DPACKAGE_SYSCONF_DIR=\/usr/local/etc\ -D PACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\/usr/local/share\ -DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\/usr/local/bin\ - DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\/usr/local/share/locale\ -DPACKAGE_LOCALSTATEDIR=\/va r\ -I../../.. -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/incl ude -I/usr/local/include -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -Wchar-subscrip ts -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-c ompare -MT probe-hiddev.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/probe-hiddev.Tpo -c -o probe-hiddev. o probe-hiddev.c^M probe-hiddev.c: In function 'main':^M probe-hiddev.c:81: error: 'USB_GET_REPORT_ID' undeclared (first use in this func tion)^M probe-hiddev.c:81: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once^M probe-hiddev.c:81: error: for each function it appears in.)^M gmake[5]: *** [probe-hiddev.o] Error 1^M gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14/hald/freebs d/probing'^M gmake[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1^M gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14/hald/freebs d'^M gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1^M gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14/hald'^M gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2^M gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14/hald'^M gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1^M gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14'^M gmake: *** [all] Error 2^M *** Error code 1^M ^M Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/hal.^M --- Build of sysutils/hal ended at: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 00:09:33 +0200 (consumed 00:00:31) --- Upgrade of sysutils/hal ended at: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 00:09:33 +0200 (consume d 00:00:31) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ncurses
Thanks to some help from Joel Dahl on the mutt-users list, I was able to restore correct color support in my mutt installation. But it raises a question about ncurses. It seems that building mutt with the devel/ncurses port installed creates the problem I was experiencing: most colors do not show up in mutt, and the line-drawing characters are borked. Deinstalling devel/ncurses and rebuilding mutt with the base version of ncurses solves the problem. However, x11/rxvt-unicode depends on devel/ncurses, so any time urxvt needs rebuilding we get devel/ncurses reinstalled. Any subsequent rebuild of mutt restores the original problem. Is there any way to sort this out? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ncurses
On Jun 04 2010 17:30, sghctoma wrote: not exactly a solution, rather a workaround, but you can build mutt with s-lang (WITH_MUTT_SLANG=YES) instead of ncurses.. it works for me.. Thanks for the tip. I'm not sure if I'll go that route, but I'm copying your response to the list for posterity's sake. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ncurses
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 08:02:34AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
It seems that building mutt with the devel/ncurses port installed creates
the problem I was experiencing: most colors do not show up in mutt, and
the line-drawing characters are borked. Deinstalling devel/ncurses and
rebuilding mutt with the base version of ncurses solves the problem.
However, x11/rxvt-unicode depends on devel/ncurses, so any time urxvt
needs rebuilding we get devel/ncurses reinstalled. Any subsequent rebuild
of mutt restores the original problem.
Is there any way to sort this out?
You could build mutt with 'slang' support instead of ncurses. Put the
following in /etc/make.conf:
.if ${.CURDIR:M*/mail/mutt}
WITH_MUTT_SLANG=yes
.endif
OTOH, I'm using mutt-devel built with the system ncurses library
(libncursesw.so.8) in an rxvt-unicode terminal window without problems. I do
have 'LANG=en_US.UTF-8' and 'LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8' set in my environment, 'set
charset=utf-8' in my ~/.muttrc and am using the
'Rxvt*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso10646-1' font
set in ~/.Xresources.
Roland
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Re: x11/xfce ssh-agent once per logon for minimal (no gnome/kde) installation
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Matthew Seaman
m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:
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On 04/06/2010 24:39:46, Steve Franks wrote:
I'm totally lost. What I desire is to put in my passphrase for my
public key(s) when I logon to my box. Since I usually install from
ports and use xfce, I have no infrastructure for this, and I'm getting
nowhere fast. My Fedora box popped up a nice little enter
passphrase box the very first time I ssh'd to my server, and now it
'just works'. My FreeBSD boxes (which are many - everything *but* the
laptop with Fedora), 'just don't work'. I've installed everything
with 'ssh' and either 'key' or 'agent' in the name from
ports/security, and gone through the manpages, and tweaked countless
environment variables, but every time I ssh on a FreeBSD box, it
stubbornly locates the terminal I started any gui's from (i.e. meld +
bzr), and asks for the passphrase a great many times daily. Add that
I've started my gui with meld (so as to continue using said terminal
- don't love 'panels', 'choosers', 'menus', etc - guis are for word
processors and file managers, not desktops), I can't even type in the
passphrase there. I generally like using FreeBSD caveman style, but
this is starting to drive me nuts. No meld/bzr==no work from home==no
happiness ;)
Anyone have a 'standard' / FreeBSD-friendly best-practices for this?
I think I'm just cluttering up my system here.
The problem you have is that you need to start ssh-agent(1) somewhere
very early in your login process, so that your entire desktop
environment can inherit all the necessary ssh-agent settings.
Exactly what to do depends on how you get into X11. If you run
startx(1) manually when you want to switch from console to X11 then you
need to edit your ~/.xinitrc
Alternatively, if you use a display manager like xdm(1) -- ie. there's
an X based graphical login -- then you have two choices: edit your
~/.xsession or tweak the pam configuration for your login manager.
If you want to go the 'edit .xinitrc or .xsession' route then you need
to do basically the same thing for either of those two files. They're
pretty much just scripts that start up the initial X applications for
your login session: practically speaking, that means starting up your
window manager. It's possible you don't have either of those files
explicitly in your account: in either case the system will run a
standard default script if it can't find a user specific version.
The .xinitrc or .xsession file should look something like this:
#!/bin/sh
# Import user environment settings
. ${HOME}/.profile
eval $( ssh-agent -s )
# Eg. pop up an xterm so you can enter your ssh passphrase
xterm -geometry 80x24-91+0 -e /usr/bin/ssh-add -c ${HOME}/.ssh/id_rsa
# Note: no '' -- this should run in the foreground
xfce
eval $( ssh-agent -k )
#
# That's All Folks!
#
This is just a rough outline, which you should adapt to your own needs
- -- in particular there are nicer apps you can use for entering a
passphrase. Also note that you can probably omit that bit from the
.xinitrc or .xsession and have your window manager run it. In any case,
the important bits are the two 'eval' lines bracketing the
window-manager startup.
The other possibility -- which is only available if you are using a
display manager like xdm(1) -- is tweaking the pam settings. For xdm,
edit the file /etc/pam.d/xdm and uncomment the two lines mentioning
pam_ssh. Now you will be able to log into your system via xdm using
your ssh passphrase, and xdm will start up ssh-agent for your session
and add your key to it. Different display managers will have their own
pam.d files (either in /etc/pam.d or in /usr/local/etc/pam.d) but you
should be able to make equivalent changes there -- either uncomment or
add pam_ssh lines in the auth or session sections.
Cheers,
Matthew
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Ah, sometimes you're just a command away! I'm surprised I couldn't
google this (too many ssh examples, all the x11+agent ones must be
hidden).
So for posterity, this is the relevant portion of .xinitrc file:
...
export SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/local/bin/x11-ssh-askpass ;export SSH_ASKPASS
eval $( ssh-agent -s )
ssh-add
xfce4-session
eval $( ssh-agent -k )
I was using exec xfce4-session as in most of the examples for
.xinitrc files, which seemed to be mucking things up - ditching the
Re: x11/xfce ssh-agent once per logon for minimal (no gnome/kde) installation
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Steve Franks bahamasfra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Matthew Seaman
m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:
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On 04/06/2010 24:39:46, Steve Franks wrote:
I'm totally lost. What I desire is to put in my passphrase for my
public key(s) when I logon to my box. Since I usually install from
ports and use xfce, I have no infrastructure for this, and I'm getting
nowhere fast. My Fedora box popped up a nice little enter
passphrase box the very first time I ssh'd to my server, and now it
'just works'. My FreeBSD boxes (which are many - everything *but* the
laptop with Fedora), 'just don't work'. I've installed everything
with 'ssh' and either 'key' or 'agent' in the name from
ports/security, and gone through the manpages, and tweaked countless
environment variables, but every time I ssh on a FreeBSD box, it
stubbornly locates the terminal I started any gui's from (i.e. meld +
bzr), and asks for the passphrase a great many times daily. Add that
I've started my gui with meld (so as to continue using said terminal
- don't love 'panels', 'choosers', 'menus', etc - guis are for word
processors and file managers, not desktops), I can't even type in the
passphrase there. I generally like using FreeBSD caveman style, but
this is starting to drive me nuts. No meld/bzr==no work from home==no
happiness ;)
Anyone have a 'standard' / FreeBSD-friendly best-practices for this?
I think I'm just cluttering up my system here.
The problem you have is that you need to start ssh-agent(1) somewhere
very early in your login process, so that your entire desktop
environment can inherit all the necessary ssh-agent settings.
Exactly what to do depends on how you get into X11. If you run
startx(1) manually when you want to switch from console to X11 then you
need to edit your ~/.xinitrc
Alternatively, if you use a display manager like xdm(1) -- ie. there's
an X based graphical login -- then you have two choices: edit your
~/.xsession or tweak the pam configuration for your login manager.
If you want to go the 'edit .xinitrc or .xsession' route then you need
to do basically the same thing for either of those two files. They're
pretty much just scripts that start up the initial X applications for
your login session: practically speaking, that means starting up your
window manager. It's possible you don't have either of those files
explicitly in your account: in either case the system will run a
standard default script if it can't find a user specific version.
The .xinitrc or .xsession file should look something like this:
#!/bin/sh
# Import user environment settings
. ${HOME}/.profile
eval $( ssh-agent -s )
# Eg. pop up an xterm so you can enter your ssh passphrase
xterm -geometry 80x24-91+0 -e /usr/bin/ssh-add -c ${HOME}/.ssh/id_rsa
# Note: no '' -- this should run in the foreground
xfce
eval $( ssh-agent -k )
#
# That's All Folks!
#
This is just a rough outline, which you should adapt to your own needs
- -- in particular there are nicer apps you can use for entering a
passphrase. Also note that you can probably omit that bit from the
.xinitrc or .xsession and have your window manager run it. In any case,
the important bits are the two 'eval' lines bracketing the
window-manager startup.
The other possibility -- which is only available if you are using a
display manager like xdm(1) -- is tweaking the pam settings. For xdm,
edit the file /etc/pam.d/xdm and uncomment the two lines mentioning
pam_ssh. Now you will be able to log into your system via xdm using
your ssh passphrase, and xdm will start up ssh-agent for your session
and add your key to it. Different display managers will have their own
pam.d files (either in /etc/pam.d or in /usr/local/etc/pam.d) but you
should be able to make equivalent changes there -- either uncomment or
add pam_ssh lines in the auth or session sections.
Cheers,
Matthew
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Ah, sometimes you're just a command away! I'm surprised I couldn't
google this (too many ssh examples, all the x11+agent ones must be
hidden).
So for posterity, this is the relevant portion of .xinitrc file:
...
export SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/local/bin/x11-ssh-askpass ;export SSH_ASKPASS
eval $( ssh-agent -s )
ssh-add
xfce4-session
eval $( ssh-agent -k )
I was using exec xfce4-session as in
Some GMirror questions.
Hello All, There are a number of gmirror resources available online but there are a few discrepancies. I thought someone here might be able to shed some light on them. Also, this is on FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE. Does creating the mirror need to be done from a Livefs CD (in Fixit mode) or can it be done directly from the OS? The Handbook makes no reference to things like: # Install FreeBSD on to ad0. # Reboot with the Install CD. # Enter Fixit mode. chroot /dist mount -t devfs devfs /dev gmirror load gmirror label -v -b round-robin gm0 /dev/ad0 mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1a /mnt echo geom_mirror_load=YES /mnt/boot/loader.conf It just indicates jumping right in with gmirror label from the OS (at least it seems to). Also, these next 2 entries in /etc/rc.conf. The Handbook does not make any mention of them. The way the authors state their purpose it would seem as though that should be done in all cases of disk mirroring. Is that true? # tell the system that the swap file will be on a mirror, not a raw drive. echo ’swapoff=”YES”‘ /mnt/etc/rc.conf # need to do this to make dumping cores happy since it won’t use a gmirror’ed drive dumpdev=”NO” Lastly, I know at one point the 'load' algorithm had some performance problems and people were saying to only use 'round-robin'. It seems as though some code was committed back in Dec 2009 to fix it's this. Is there a practical rule of thumb to using 'load' vs 'round-robin'? Is this an accurate way to look at it? Round-robin because if you have two disks in a mirror, they’re both under the same 'load' constraints, and it is best to KISS. Cheers, Peter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[sterl...@camdensoftware.com: Re: ncurses]
On Jun 04 2010 19:24, Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 10:12:12AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Thanks for all the info, but i get the same results in mutt-devel as I do in mutt. WITH_MUTT_SLANG didn't seem to take either. Is there a way to specify that mutt should use the system ncurses instead of devel/ncurses? Looking at the port's Makefile, it depends on the system ncurses library if neither WITH_SLANG nor WITH_NCURSES_PORT is set. But it could still link to the port's library if that is first in the link path. If you build rxvt-unicode with the TERMINFO option switched OFF, urxvt-unicode does not depend on devel/ncurses. If you then de-install devel/ncurses and recompile mutt, it must use the system library. But in my experience, using a wrong font, or setting the wrong LANG or LC_ALL in the environment is more likely to screw things up. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) Thank you -- I should have read the Makefile myself. It was WITH_SLANG, not WITH_MUTT_SLANG. That solves the problem, and has the added benefit of being able to use my default text color (SpringGreen) instead of having to stick to the 8 normal colors. I thought that might have also opened up urxvt's 256-color support, but mutt still thinks I have only 8 colors. At least I can default to my urxvt settings for normal text, though. Thanks again for your help! -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: .sh getopts
m
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Jun 3 23:36:28 2010
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 12:35:56 +0800
From: Aiza aiz...@comclark.com
To: questi...@freebsd.org questi...@freebsd.org
Cc:
Subject: .sh getopts
Have this code
shift; while getopts :ugr: arg; do case ${arg} in
u) action=freebsd-update;;
g) action=freebsd-upgrade;;
r) action=freebsd-rollback;;
?) exerr ${cmd_usage};;
esac; done; shift $(( ${OPTION} -1 ))
Command being executed looks like this, cmd action -flags
Only a single -flag in allowed on the command.
$# gives a count of parms ie: . in this example a count of 2.
I am looking for something to check that holds the number of flags on
the command. so I can code. if flag_count gt 1 = error
Is there such a thing created by getopts?
Why bother??
flag_count=0
shift; while getopts :ugr: arg
if flag_count = 1; then
exerr ${cmd_usage}
fi
flag_count=1;
do case ${arg} in
{{blah-blah}}
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Re: portsnap refuse
Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com writes: The postsnap says adding refuse statements to select the parts of the port tree you have use for will shorten the download process and conserve disk space on your host. That only the port categories not REFUSED will be selected and compressed for download. You are paraphrasing here. I'm not clear whether your paraphrase is accurate. It's certainly making some assumptions that are not explicitly laid out in the manual page. Well for a test I ran portsnap with out any portsnap.conf file. The download process took 16 minuets. The I mv portsnap.conf.sample to portsnap.conf and added REFUSE for all the categories except sysutils. Reran the portsnap and still it took 16 minuets. What gives here?? You could check whether the REFUSEd parts are getting updated after all, then you could check whether they're in the downloaded snapshot. My tech support crystal ball predicts that you will find your REFUSE entries aren't really matching. Could be wrong, but at least the tests I suggested would point you in the right direction if it's right. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Alternate method for fetching source
I'm trying to update my system and when I run cvsup, the connection repeatedly has problems (TreeList failed: Network write failure: Connection closed). I'm wondering if anybody can suggest any other method to grab the current source files? Thanks for any ideas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hal-0.5.14_7 to _8 upgrade problem
n dhert ndhert...@gmail.com writes: I have a problem with upgrading hal-0.5.14_7 to hal-0.5.14_8 how to solve this? --- cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../.. -DPACKAGE_SYSCONF_DIR=\/usr/local/etc\ -D PACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\/usr/local/share\ -DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\/usr/local/bin\ - DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\/usr/local/share/locale\ -DPACKAGE_LOCALSTATEDIR=\/va r\ -I../../.. -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/incl ude -I/usr/local/include -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -Wchar-subscrip ts -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-c ompare -MT probe-hiddev.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/probe-hiddev.Tpo -c -o probe-hiddev. o probe-hiddev.c^M probe-hiddev.c: In function 'main':^M probe-hiddev.c:81: error: 'USB_GET_REPORT_ID' undeclared (first use in this func tion)^M probe-hiddev.c:81: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once^M probe-hiddev.c:81: error: for each function it appears in.)^M gmake[5]: *** [probe-hiddev.o] Error 1^M gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14/hald/freebs d/probing'^M gmake[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1^M gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14/hald/freebs d'^M gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1^M gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14/hald'^M gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2^M gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14/hald'^M gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1^M gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14'^M gmake: *** [all] Error 2^M *** Error code 1^M ^M Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/hal.^M --- Build of sysutils/hal ended at: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 00:09:33 +0200 (consumed 00:00:31) --- Upgrade of sysutils/hal ended at: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 00:09:33 +0200 (consume d 00:00:31) USB_GET_REPORT_ID should be getting picked up from /usr/include/dev/usb/usb_ioctl.h these days. Have you still got libusb (or some of its includes) installed on a system recent enough to have it in the base system? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Alternate method for fetching source
On 04/06/2010 19:20, Ross Penner wrote: I'm trying to update my system and when I run cvsup, the connection repeatedly has problems (TreeList failed: Network write failure: Connection closed). I'm wondering if anybody can suggest any other method to grab the current source files? svn works (http://wiki.freebsd.org/SubversionPrimer) or if you are ok not to have the absolute bleeding edge http://pub.allbsd.org/FreeBSD-snapshots/ has a daily -CURRENT snapshot (including source) Vince Thanks for any ideas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
bash instead of csh (completely)
Hi list, title says it, i would like completely remove csh and install bash instead. As far I know, csh is build in system, could I remove it manually and install bash (of course, in reverse order :D) Are there such dependencies on csh? I know that real system scripting is done via /bin/sh co absence of csh shell should not break system. Am I wrong ? Thank you for reply Have a nice day ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash instead of csh (completely)
Why would you want to do that? On 4 Jun 2010 19:57, Stefan Miklosovic miklosovic.free...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, title says it, i would like completely remove csh and install bash instead. As far I know, csh is build in system, could I remove it manually and install bash (of course, in reverse order :D) Are there such dependencies on csh? I know that real system scripting is done via /bin/sh co absence of csh shell should not break system. Am I wrong ? Thank you for reply Have a nice day ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Alternate method for fetching source
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Ross Penner wrote: I'm trying to update my system and when I run cvsup, the connection repeatedly has problems (TreeList failed: Network write failure: Connection closed). I'm wondering if anybody can suggest any other method to grab the current source files? You are talking about the system source, not the ports, right? Actually, the advice is not much different. In either case, cvsup does not always work very well for big upgrades (such as across major version numbers) and also (though it theoretically should) doesn't work well creating a source tree from scratch. If you install source (or ports) from the most recent release below your taget before, cvsup is much less likely to crack under pressure. Also, consider changing your mirror. Network conditions may be better for you with some mirrors than with others. And finally, make sure cvsup is up-to-date with your current system. It's in ports/net . (Of course backup what you have before trying any of this.) You may get a more specific response if you include uname -a for your current system and the tags you are trying to use with cvsup. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash instead of csh (completely)
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 08:56:02PM +0200, Stefan Miklosovic wrote: Hi list, title says it, i would like completely remove csh and install bash instead. As far I know, csh is build in system, could I remove it manually and install bash (of course, in reverse order :D) If you are made about that, then just change your shell in the /etc/passwd file to /usr/local/bin/bash and you will have bash as your shell. There is no particular reason to do so, but you can if you want. Actually, the csh on FreeBSD is now tcsh and has most of the cute features added that some people think they have to use bash for. Of course, the syntax for commands is still csh style. Are there such dependencies on csh? I know that real system scripting is done via /bin/sh co absence of csh shell should not break system. You do not want to make bash be the default shell for root. It should be left as /bin/sh jerry Am I wrong ? Thank you for reply Have a nice day ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash instead of csh (completely)
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:56:02 +0200, Stefan Miklosovic miklosovic.free...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, title says it, i would like completely remove csh and install bash instead. As far I know, csh is build in system, could I remove it manually and install bash (of course, in reverse order :D) Are there such dependencies on csh? I know that real system scripting is done via /bin/sh co absence of csh shell should not break system. Am I wrong ? Hmmm... first of all, you know that there are some things you have to take into mind when installing bash into the OS (e. g. attention to use statical linking, and placing it into /bin). Keep in mind that FreeBSD defaults to csh as the default dialog shell in many places (e. g. /usr/share/skel), but you can also modify those references to point to bash instead. I don't know why you want to remove csh from the system (instead of just not using it), but in my opinion - without any experience or testing - it sounds possible. You can easily build a minimal system, install bash as mentioned before, and then remove the csh binary. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Alternate method for fetching source
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Ross Penner ross.pen...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to update my system and when I run cvsup, the connection repeatedly has problems (TreeList failed: Network write failure: Connection closed). I'm wondering if anybody can suggest any other method to grab the current source files? Have you tried other cvsup mirrors. There are plenty of choices at the bottom of this page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvsup.html Oh, and are you running cvsup or csup? Thanks for any ideas -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash instead of csh (completely)
Am 04.06.2010 20:56, schrieb Stefan Miklosovic: title says it, i would like completely remove csh and install bash instead. As far I know, csh is build in system, could I remove it manually and install bash (of course, in reverse order :D) What do you want to achieve with this? Installing shells/bash from ports followed by a chsh or vipw is not sufficient? If you really want a system without csh please have a look at src.conf(5) which has the knob you want: WITHOUT_TCSH Set to not build and install /bin/csh (which is tcsh(1)). If you add WITHOUT_TCSH=YES to your /etc/src.conf you probably can get rid of csh after the next buildworld with the commands make delete-old; make delete-old-libs Uwe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash instead of csh (completely)
Stefan Miklosovic wrote: Hi list, title says it, i would like completely remove csh and install bash instead. As far I know, csh is build in system, could I remove it manually and install bash (of course, in reverse order :D) Are there such dependencies on csh? I know that real system scripting is done via /bin/sh co absence of csh shell should not break system. Why do you feel it is necessary to completely remove csh? It is part of the base install of the OS and does not prevent you from installing and using Bash should you choose. Since these are not mutually exclusive I see no reason to remove csh. Just leave it be. Arbitrarily 'removing' stuff from the base system without relevant reason is more likely to create a problem where none existed previously. You can install Bash from ports. You should know that it is a third party userland application at this point. What you will find out some day when /usr won't mount and you're sitting in single-user mode trying to recover the box is bash will not be working. And if you made the mistake of changing root's shell to bash you will not be a happy camper. You are certainly free to use whatever shell you want as a user. Don't mess with root's shell. I saw once some highly questionable so-called 'benchmarking' where it was claimed that bash is 4 times slower than anything else. My own $.02 is the fixation on bash is more a result from people coming over to FreeBSD from Linux, and trying to drag Linux methodologies along with instead of looking at FreeBSD fresh and learning new stuff. While there is a lot of similarity and overlap, FreeBSD is *not* just another Linux distro. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Alternate method for fetching source
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Lars Eighner wrote: On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Ross Penner wrote: I'm trying to update my system and when I run cvsup, the connection repeatedly has problems (TreeList failed: Network write failure: Connection closed). I'm wondering if anybody can suggest any other method to grab the current source files? You are talking about the system source, not the ports, right? Actually, the advice is not much different. In either case, cvsup does not always work very well for big upgrades (such as across major version numbers) and also (though it theoretically should) doesn't work well creating a source tree from scratch. If you install source (or ports) from the most recent release below your taget before, cvsup is much less likely to crack under pressure. Also, consider changing your mirror. Network conditions may be better for you with some mirrors than with others. And finally, make sure cvsup is up-to-date with your current system. It's in ports/net . (Of course backup what you have before trying any of this.) You may get a more specific response if you include uname -a for your current system and the tags you are trying to use with cvsup. I have almost exclusively used cvsup and now csup to update complete source trees since 1997 and other than having the mirror of my choice not be quite up-to-date have never had any issues. I would recommend using csup rather than cvsup as csup has the same syntax and is built into the base system. Assuming you are not tracking current, or are not updating to get a specific fix, the timing of mirror updates is rarely an issue. Another method of updating would be to use freebsd-update, see 24.2 in the handbook. If this would work for you, it would have the added advantage of having some extra build-in protection against network problems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash instead of csh (completely)
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 14:59, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Why would you want to do that? To get rid of csh? http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzmanjba...@gmail.com www.jbaltz.com foo mane padme hum twitter: @lorvax ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Some GMirror questions.
I think you are making this harder than is needs to be. When in doubt defer to the Handbook and the man pages. This also a good page http://onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html Lastly, I know at one point the 'load' algorithm had some performance problems and people were saying to only use 'round-robin'. It seems as though some code was committed back in Dec 2009 to fix it's this. Is there a practical rule of thumb to using 'load' vs 'round-robin'? Use load. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=113885 Is this an accurate way to look at it? Round-robin because if you have two disks in a mirror, they’re both under the same 'load' constraints, and it is best to KISS. No. round-robin is a simple algorithm which alternates drive requests. Also two identical HD's may be mirrored but they will not really ever be same state in terms of caching, performance, etc. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash instead of csh (completely)
Jerry B. Altzman jba...@gmail.com writes: Hi, To get rid of csh? http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ This link is about csh *programming*, as standard scripts in FreeBSD use sh, this is pointless. Regards -- Ol: ..un plan perdu au fond d'une armoire dont seul Steve Jobs a la clé. BL: Qu'il a laissée dans un pantalon déposé chez un teinturier dont il a perdu l'adresse et le ticket ! -+- BL in Guide du Macounet Pervers : Bien cacher sa stratégie -+- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash instead of csh (completely)
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:03:42 -0400, Jerry B. Altzman jba...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 14:59, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Why would you want to do that? To get rid of csh? http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ The article you mentioned discusses the topic Why shouldn't I program in csh? As the OP already noted correctly, in FreeBSD scripting is done by /bin/sh, the Bourne shell. Most people scripting on FreeBSD do also use sh. In fact, I don't know anybody seriously scripting in csh. In terms of dialog shell quality, there surely are better solutions than bash. Allthough bash is most common, shells like ksh or zsh are also very powerfull (and still have compatibility to sh). Personally, there are some things regarding dialog use that csh does better (!) than bash, but that's to be seen as what it is, a very individual point of view. Again, why get rid of csh when it's enough just not to use it? System scripting is sh, and using chsh, modification of adduer behaviour or different settings in /usr/share/skel bash can be made the default dialog shell - no big deal. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash instead of csh (completely)
Hi all, First of all, thank you for your quick answers, I really appreciate it. I dont want to start flame war about linux vs bsd but ... :) Before I start to explain what I want to do, I want you know I consider freebsd fr away better than linux in a lot of ways. (it is also a reason I want to build something upon bsd instead of linux, there are so many advantages ... ok, this post isnt about that :)) In work, we try to do some kind of linux distro, it is based on slacware. I am not a guy who lead it, but in the way we are developing it, I think it is bad idea at all. Firstly, we try to do minimal slackware installation as much it is possible, so now we are about 2.6.34 kernel, minimum kernel modules, no man or docs, files you do not need for sure are removed. We ended with quite usable system with quite neccessary utilities. It has about ~150 MB. But I think with this process, we just cut ourselves from such things like system upgrade (if slackware would have someone :D), package upgrade (we nearly all do manually, compiling from source) and so on ... Note that this distro is not something massively distributed, just for our purpose, but problems remains. While I always inclined to *bsd and not used linux more as it was a duty, I want to do it in bsd way. So set up minimal bsd without things I do not need but still stay in touch with things like package system, ports (its the same) and system upgrades / updates. I should write my own installer and so on. What I still miss is a way how to bend freebsd to my needs. In linux, it is easy as hell, remove this, change that, and it still runs. I am afraid that if I cut off some parts of system, I will not benefit from it anymore. For example, I install minimal bsd, but it contains still things I do not need (some dir like games and other stuff or some ancient groups in /etc/groups like uucp, proxy,games, dialer (??? in year 2010, who use it?) and so on. So I am afraid to be so brutal to just remove it ... FreeBSD has another philosophy than Linux, but i feel Linux is more customizable. But understand that it is advantage and disadvantage too ... I think I have to more study about /usr/src/ :) For example, I would like to know, how to install something into other dir and no to default one. Think about port. All to /usr/local/ ... and so on. But what if I want to install it in /ExtraStuff ? How do I do it in make install clean way? Change port's make file ? no way . On 6/4/10, Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com wrote: Stefan Miklosovic wrote: Hi list, title says it, i would like completely remove csh and install bash instead. As far I know, csh is build in system, could I remove it manually and install bash (of course, in reverse order :D) Are there such dependencies on csh? I know that real system scripting is done via /bin/sh co absence of csh shell should not break system. Why do you feel it is necessary to completely remove csh? It is part of the base install of the OS and does not prevent you from installing and using Bash should you choose. Since these are not mutually exclusive I see no reason to remove csh. Just leave it be. Arbitrarily 'removing' stuff from the base system without relevant reason is more likely to create a problem where none existed previously. You can install Bash from ports. You should know that it is a third party userland application at this point. What you will find out some day when /usr won't mount and you're sitting in single-user mode trying to recover the box is bash will not be working. And if you made the mistake of changing root's shell to bash you will not be a happy camper. You are certainly free to use whatever shell you want as a user. Don't mess with root's shell. I saw once some highly questionable so-called 'benchmarking' where it was claimed that bash is 4 times slower than anything else. My own $.02 is the fixation on bash is more a result from people coming over to FreeBSD from Linux, and trying to drag Linux methodologies along with instead of looking at FreeBSD fresh and learning new stuff. While there is a lot of similarity and overlap, FreeBSD is *not* just another Linux distro. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash instead of csh (completely)
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Stefan Miklosovic miklosovic.free...@gmail.com wrote: What I still miss is a way how to bend freebsd to my needs. In linux, it is easy as hell, remove this, change that, and it still runs. I am afraid that if I cut off some parts of system, I will not benefit from it anymore. For example, I install minimal bsd, but it contains still things I do not need (some dir like games and other stuff or some ancient groups in /etc/groups like uucp, proxy,games, dialer (??? in year 2010, who use it?) and so on. You're aware of nanobsd(8)? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Alternate method for fetching source
Ross Penner wrote: I'm trying to update my system and when I run cvsup, the connection repeatedly has problems (TreeList failed: Network write failure: Connection closed). I'm wondering if anybody can suggest any other method to grab the current source files? Thanks for any ideas It has been my experience that when a new RELEASE cycle starts, Like right now with 8.1, the ftp servers get a real workout. Having difficulties making it through a complete download successfully in one try is very unlikely. Using ftp with a .netrc file to restart the download where it left off is better than restarting over from the start. Read this url all the way to the end where the restart is explained. http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=4212 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash instead of csh (completely)
I dont want to start flame war about linux vs bsd but ... :) Before I start to explain what I want to do, I want you know I consider freebsd fr away better than linux in a lot of ways. (it is also a reason I want to build something upon bsd instead of linux, there are so many advantages ... ok, this post isnt about that :)) You're right -- it isn't about that. Don't get sucked into some stupid argument. Bash isn't Linux. Linux isn't bash. If you want to use another shell, just use it. Bear in mind that if you install it from FreeBSD Ports, then it and it's dependencies may not be available in the event of an emergency, if they live on a partition separate from /. So unless you go to the trouble of building a statically-linked bash and installing it in /rescue or /bin or whatever, I wouldn't change root's shell to bash. However, others encountered this problem, and made a default account called toor that is basically a root account with another shell. You could use that with bash instead, and leave root with a shell from the base system. Whatever you decide to use for user accounts and your own scripts, variables like MAKE_SH and SH in make.conf will dictate what is used for building the base system and ports. If you change these to bash, you may break some builds. ... What I still miss is a way how to bend freebsd to my needs. In linux, it is easy as hell, remove this, change that, and it still runs. I am afraid that if I cut off some parts of system, I will not benefit from it anymore. For example, I install minimal bsd, but it contains still things I do not need (some dir like games and other stuff or some ancient groups in /etc/groups like uucp, proxy,games, dialer (??? in year 2010, who use it?) and so on. So I am afraid to be so brutal to just remove it ... It's just a matter of learning what depends on what, which takes a bit of time. If you're happy with a ~150MB base system, you can just use the WITHOUT_* knobs in src.conf(5) and the make delete-old(-libs) targets to rip out a bunch of stuff. If you want it even smaller, you'll have to use picobsd(8), or nanobsd(8) (both of which require some effort to figure out dependencies), or hack the base system sources yourself. FreeBSD has another philosophy than Linux, but i feel Linux is more customizable. Maybe some Linux distros are slightly easier to trim than the stock FreeBSD, but only slightly. Once you become more familiar with FreeBSD, I'm sure that you will see the possibilities for slimming it down. If you are still not satisfied, you could use a hybrid system like Debian's GNU/kfreebsd: http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ or Gentoo/FreeBSD: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/bsd/fbsd/ But these are newer, experimental systems, with all that implies. I think I have to more study about /usr/src/ :) For example, I would like to know, how to install something into other dir and no to default one. Think about port. All to /usr/local/ ... and so on. But what if I want to install it in /ExtraStuff ? How do I do it in make install clean way? Change port's make file ? no way . Read build(7), release(7), ports(7), src.conf(5), make.conf(5), /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, /usr/src/Makefile, and the tail of /usr/src/UPDATING, for a start. You'll want to look at setting DESTDIR, LOCALBASE, etc. It's all there. Good luck. b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Apache 2.2, mod_auth_kerb
On 06/03/2010 02:16 AM, John wrote: On 2010-06-03 07:45, Benjamin Lee wrote: On 05/20/2010 06:02 AM, John wrote: Hi list. I'm having problems getting mod_auth_kerb to play nice on one of my servers. I have the exact same setup on other machines and it works perfectly, only difference is this ones running CURRENT while they track RELEASE. Some info: # pkg_info|grep apache pkg_info|grep kerb apache-2.2.15_7 Version 2.2.x of Apache web server with prefork MPM. mod_auth_kerb-5.4 An Apache module for authenticating users with Kerberos v5 # uname -a FreeBSD host.example.com 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #5: Tue May 11 20:04:45 UTC 2010 host.example.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOST i386 Everything compiles and installs nicely, but when I try to do a 'apachectl start' I get this: httpd: Syntax error on line 4 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_auth_kerb.so into server: /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_auth_kerb.so: Undefined symbol gsskrb5_register_acceptor_identity Is this due to running current? If it is I will drop the issue right now, I just want to know for sure before I spend hours trying to solve it. Hi John, What is the output of 'ldd /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_auth_kerb.so'? /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_auth_kerb.so: libgssapi.so.10 = /usr/lib/libgssapi.so.10 (0x281b8000) libheimntlm.so.10 = /usr/lib/libheimntlm.so.10 (0x281c1000) libkrb5.so.10 = /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.10 (0x281c6000) libhx509.so.10 = /usr/lib/libhx509.so.10 (0x28224000) libcom_err.so.5 = /usr/lib/libcom_err.so.5 (0x2825a000) libcrypto.so.6 = /lib/libcrypto.so.6 (0x2825c000) libasn1.so.10 = /usr/lib/libasn1.so.10 (0x2880) libroken.so.10 = /usr/lib/libroken.so.10 (0x283c1000) libcrypt.so.5 = /lib/libcrypt.so.5 (0x283d1000) libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x28091000) Hi John, It looks like libgssapi (and potentially other parts of heimdal) have been broken in head/ since the heimdal-1.1 merge. Thus, it's now also broken in stable/8/ and releng/8.0/. I've filed a PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=147454 -- Benjamin Lee http://www.b1c1l1.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
sysbench / fileio - Linux vs. FreeBSD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi List, A week ago I started to benchmark Linux vs. FreeBSD on a Dell Poweredge 1850. CPU: 2 x 3.4Ghz Xeon (Dual Core) Memory: 8GB (4x2) Disk: 1 x SEAGATE ST373454LC D404 (SCSI) FreeBSD kazoku 8.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue May 25 20:54:11 UTC 2010 r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 The tests with seqrewr, seqrd, rndrd, and so on is still going on, so I can only publish the seqwr result. (The PostgreSQL will be tested as well) (soft-updates are on) /dev/da0s1d on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) Tested with: sysbench --num-threads=$a --file-block-size=$bs --test=fileio - --file-total-size=2G --file-fsync-all=no --file-test-mode=seqwr run My first results (seqwr with 1,2,4,8,6,32 threads) can be found here. http://tech-blog.wooh.hu/~wooh/fbsd_vs_debian_seqwr.html Why FreeBSD is supreme with 1 and 2 thread. And why is it 2 and 3 times slower with 4-8-16-32 threads compared to Debian? The first two tests (1 thread and 2 thread) showed me that FreeBSD is supreme in I/O, but later tests showed me, that it can produce horrible I/O. How can I tune my disk to make it faster? Is it possible? What is the reason of the really slow I/O with more than 4 threads? What do you recommend me to do? Why is it damn slow with 8K blocksize? I have more than 15 FreeBSD servers in production environment and I don't want to change operating system due to I/O issues. I changed my OpenBSD servers to FreeBSD 3 years ago... :) When all tests are ready I'll publish all the results, including the postgresql benchmarks as well. Best Regards, - -- Adam PAPAI -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMCZMrAAoJEGq0EWvh5uiI10MIAM1iZxFZ5xssKmawHl56Ruin zHHgb4Nc15waTLdzFGfllAayDlZqvvpoSpOVbp8qDZYlkTbYPF6aMjkehqMvQUEo nFs7WN2VaCSOhUUQSwjqfGdnMLW9H5uyW/ZkYvgoOjQjz/vewDV6Fi+ZfGmt5Zqw gV1ZlXFdAUOUW6c90ODOPxn+7XCA5UC2sUMPB+1iNxrTiiS6C2YQ0Vy1fCXvrhU3 51n0ES/7JBF4sk5dH1VNEU/8AeQRBOoKPuAHhZKRZZ1x+1dMkDhwdD+KUHGrRGJd fUAZmMhjE6fRG86FbwK5jrZizHZYpE3PfpZe6tI3SIvw7NbUNrRsCMSiel+0FBg= =k3Sw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash instead of csh (completely)
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 04:03:42PM -0400, Jerry B. Altzman wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 14:59, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Why would you want to do that? To get rid of csh? http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ As pointed out already (at least twice), that is about csh *programming*. What this means is that nothing in that screed says that having csh installed on your system is bad. If you actually buy everything that Mr. Christiansen says about how csh is bad for programming (and I don't buy everything he says there, though I do agree with him on a lot of other topics, particularly where Perl is concerned), you still have no reason based on that screed to avoid using csh (or tcsh) as your interactive shell. Furthermore, there are reasons you shouldn't use bash for scripting. It is rather dependency-heavy, for a shell, and if you're going to write shell scripts you should really try to write them to be as simple, and as widely understandable and portable, as possible. This basically means sh (the Bourne shell) rather than csh, tcsh, bash, zsh, ksh, et cetera. Even the sh-emulation that bash provides, and that many Linux systems use instead of a real sh, is less than perfect in that regard -- but it's close enough for government work, I suppose. I'm about to get very opinionated, so feel free to stick your fingers in your ears if you don't like what I have to say: If you get to the point where your programming efforts are so sophisticated that you can't make do with sh, you should be using a real programming language, rather than a shell that happens to allow scripting. This means that by the time sh (with grep, awk, et cetera) isn't good enough, you should really consider using something like Perl or Ruby. By the time sh isn't really sufficient, you're talking about real programming, by which point the lack of clarity of the syntax of the typical shell languages can become a real thorn in your side when it comes to maintenance. Maybe it's just me, but just as I don't see any particular need for MS Access as a DBMS when it's overlapped by spreadsheets and SQLite on one end and by a variety of more serious DBMSes like PostgreSQL on the other end, I don't really see much point for bash as a scripting language when it's significantly overlapped by sh on one end and Perl, Ruby, et cetera on the other end. I suppose your mileage may vary. Anyway . . . ultimately, my point is that I love tcsh as an interactive shell, and never use it for programming. I find it odd that people want to do programming in a typical Unix shell other than simple scripting in sh when there are such better options available. Perl is even more ubiquitous than bash. Why not just use that for scripting if you want more than sh? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpwjTRSVHMj7.pgp Description: PGP signature
unable to install netatalk
Hello all, I am getting errors while trying to install netatalk from ports collection. I am running release 6.3 p15 (I know it has already passed its end-of-life date, I will update it as soon as possible). My ports tree is updated. Any help is welcome. Here is the output: *libtool: link: (cd .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a ar x /usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1/libatalk/cnid/tdb/.libs/libcnid_tdb.a) libtool: link: ar cru .libs/libcnid.a .libs/cnid.o .libs/cnid_init.o .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_dbd.a/cnid_dbd.o .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_last.a/cnid_last.o .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_add.o .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_close.o .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_delete.o .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_get.o .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_lookup.o .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_open.o .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_resolve.o .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_update.o libtool: link: ranlib .libs/libcnid.a libtool: link: rm -fr .libs/libcnid.lax libtool: link: ( cd .libs rm -f libcnid.la ln -s ../libcnid.la libcnid.la ) gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1/libatalk/cnid' gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1/libatalk/cnid' Making all in dsi gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1/libatalk/dsi' /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile cc -std=gnu99 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../../include -I../../sys-I../../include -D_U_=__attribute__((unused)) -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I../../sys -MT dsi_attn.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/dsi_attn.Tpo -c -o dsi_attn.lo dsi_attn.c libtool: compile: cc -std=gnu99 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../../include -I../../sys -I../../include -D_U_=__attribute__((unused)) -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I../../sys -MT dsi_attn.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/dsi_attn.Tpo -c dsi_attn.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/dsi_attn.o In file included from dsi_attn.c:17: ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:63: error: field `server' has incomplete type ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:63: error: field `client' has incomplete type gmake[3]: *** [dsi_attn.lo] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1/libatalk/dsi' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1/libatalk' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/netatalk. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/netatalk. BSD-Server-01:/usr/ports/net/netatalk root# * Regards, Thiago ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sysbench / fileio - Linux vs. FreeBSD
On 5 June 2010 00:58, Adam PAPAI w...@wooh.hu wrote: How can I tune my disk to make it faster? Is it possible? What is the reason of the really slow I/O with more than 4 threads? What do you recommend me to do? Why is it damn slow with 8K blocksize? Does linux still have async disk writes by default? Igor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sysbench / fileio - Linux vs. FreeBSD
On Saturday 05 June 2010 00:58:35 Adam PAPAI wrote: Why FreeBSD is supreme with 1 and 2 thread. And why is it 2 and 3 times slower with 4-8-16-32 threads compared to Debian? The first two tests (1 thread and 2 thread) showed me that FreeBSD is supreme in I/O, but later tests showed me, that it can produce horrible I/O. How can I tune my disk to make it faster? Is it possible? What is the reason of the really slow I/O with more than 4 threads? What do you recommend me to do? Why is it damn slow with 8K blocksize? Some quick tests show that ufs does do rather poorly on my system too. I have the following filesystems setup: /var : ufs with softupdates /usr/obj : zfs with checksums disabled /usr/src : zfs with compression enabled /home : zfs with compression disabled and checksums enabled I ran a test with a blocksize of 8KB and 16 threads. /var : 25.2MB/s /usr/obj : 64.8MB/s /usr/src : 386.3MB/s /home : 60.3MB/s -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Booting Xserve on 8.0
I have two new Xserves (last years units, 2.8 quad cores). After fighting with OSX for two months, I decided to see if I could install FreeBSD since that is what we have always run on our 10 servers since the 90s (and those two months would have been over in two days had we had FreeBSD from the start). I decided to give it a try tonight after a particularly low ebb in the frustration over trying to make OSX, NOT do user friendly enterprise things, but just configure normal simple applications that we take for granted can be configured and stay configured on FreeBSD. I'm wondering if there is someone on the list who may have information on this. I used the boot from CD procedure that apple provides at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2778?viewlocale=en_US and it will not boot the 8.0 ISO. I configured one normal intel box using this CD so I think it's a good disk, and I verified that the Xserve would read it as a data disk. But I can't get it to boot on the xserve. Bootloader issue? It pops the disk out and puts the gray folder with a question mark to tell me to give it a disk it can read. I tried the i386 8.0 CD and had the same results. I have read where people are installing the PPC version on xserves. Is it possible the amd64 version is not somehow bootable in a modern xserve? Any ideas? Would it be appropriate to ask this on the amd64 list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hal-0.5.14_7 to _8 upgrade problem
USB_GET_REPORT_ID should be getting picked up from /usr/include/dev/usb/usb_ioctl.h these days. Have you still got libusb (or some of its includes) installed on a system recent enough to have it in the base system? On my system, I do have : ]$ ls -la /usr/include/dev/usb/usb_ioctl.h -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 9809 May 17 14:57 /usr/include/dev/usb/usb_ioctl.h On the other hand portupgrading always gives me: --- ** Upgrade tasks 1: 0 done, 1 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed --- Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - devel/libusb (marked as IGNORE) ! sysutils/hal (hal-0.5.14_7) (compiler error) It seems it still tries to do something with the devel/libusb port? $ pkg_info | grep libusb libusb-0.1.12_4 Library giving userland programs access to USB devices seems to show it is installed. My system started at 7.2 and was upgraded to 8.0 and has given this devel/libusb (marked as IGNORE) even since. If I look on a different system installed for the first time right with 8.0, $ pkg_info | grep libusb reports nothing. 2010/6/4 Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org n dhert ndhert...@gmail.com writes: I have a problem with upgrading hal-0.5.14_7 to hal-0.5.14_8 how to solve this? --- cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../.. -DPACKAGE_SYSCONF_DIR=\/usr/local/etc\ -D PACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\/usr/local/share\ -DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\/usr/local/bin\ - DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\/usr/local/share/locale\ -DPACKAGE_LOCALSTATEDIR=\/va r\ -I../../.. -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/incl ude -I/usr/local/include -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -Wchar-subscrip ts -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-c ompare -MT probe-hiddev.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/probe-hiddev.Tpo -c -o probe-hiddev. o probe-hiddev.c^M probe-hiddev.c: In function 'main':^M probe-hiddev.c:81: error: 'USB_GET_REPORT_ID' undeclared (first use in this func tion)^M probe-hiddev.c:81: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once^M probe-hiddev.c:81: error: for each function it appears in.)^M gmake[5]: *** [probe-hiddev.o] Error 1^M gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14/hald/freebs d/probing'^M gmake[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1^M gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14/hald/freebs d'^M gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1^M gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14/hald'^M gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2^M gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14/hald'^M gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1^M gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/hal/work/hal-0.5.14'^M gmake: *** [all] Error 2^M *** Error code 1^M ^M Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/hal.^M --- Build of sysutils/hal ended at: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 00:09:33 +0200 (consumed 00:00:31) --- Upgrade of sysutils/hal ended at: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 00:09:33 +0200 (consume d 00:00:31) USB_GET_REPORT_ID should be getting picked up from /usr/include/dev/usb/usb_ioctl.h these days. Have you still got libusb (or some of its includes) installed on a system recent enough to have it in the base system? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
