Why network doesn't get initialized on system startup?

2010-08-19 Thread Yuri

I have two similar machines, on one rc.conf has:
wlans_ath0=wlan0
ifconfig_wlan0=ssid wifi-net-id weptxkey 1 deftxkey 1 wepmode on wepkey 
0x1234567890 DHCP

and it gets initialized at startup.

On another rc.conf has:
wlans_ndis0=wlan0
ifconfig_wlan0=ssid wifi-net-id weptxkey 1 deftxkey 1 wepmode on wepkey 
0x1234567890 DHCP

and this one doesn't get initialized at startup.

The only difference is that the second one uses ndis0 with some 
preloaded ndis driver. It shouldn't matter.
How can I make an interface to get initialized at startup and why it 
doesn't do this by itself?


Yuri
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Re: Hibernation

2010-08-19 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 324, Issue 6, Message: 29
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:07:13 -0500 Depo Catcher depocatc...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 8/18/2010 5:26 AM, Bruce Cran wrote:
   On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 03:55:12 -0500
   Depo Catcherdepocatc...@gmail.com  wrote:
  
  
   I can't find any good docs or guides to this.  I checked the
   handbook, but had a bunch of references to 5.x.
   Can anyone point me to the right direction?
  
   I'd like to go with FreeBSD 8.1 amd64 for my next system.
   Hibernation and Wake on Lan would both be useful.

   The only support for hibernation is via the BIOS with a special
   partition. Unfortunately as far as I know it rarely, if ever, works.
   Windows (I don't know about Linux) bypasses the BIOS/ACPI and just
   dumps the contents of memory to disk before powering off.

  My current system (6.4, really old hardware) shows this:
  
  sysctl -a | grep -i hw.acpi
  hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S1 S4 S5

No S3 (suspend to RAM) support.  This is a desktop box, right?

  hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5

S5 is power-off.

  hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S1

S1 probably does nothing that you'll notice, if you have a sleep button.

  hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE
  hw.acpi.standby_state: S1
  hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3

N/A since S3 isn't supported.  Few desktops support suspend-to-RAM.

  hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1
  hw.acpi.s4bios: 0

No BIOS support for S4 (hibernate) state, so no hibernation support.

  hw.acpi.verbose: 0

This can be informative, if set to 1, about what ACPI is doing.

  hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot: 0
  hw.acpi.handle_reboot: 0
  hw.acpi.reset_video: 0
  hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1
  
  ampd is the command I'm looking for ?

apmd is only useful if you disable ACPI and enable APM instead.  This 
can be useful on some older hardware, eg this old ('99) Compaq laptop 
runs APM very well, but ACPI poorly.  Setup for this (at freebsd 5.5):

/boot/loader.conf:
apm_load=YES  # or build it into kernel
hint.apm.0.disabled=0
hint.apm.0.flags=0# hint.apm.0.flags=0x20 # (broken statclock?)

/etc/rc.conf:
apm_enable=YES
blanktime=120
apmd_enable=YES
apmd_flags=-v
saver=apm
#% 11/11/7 Turn off ad0 APM spindowns (Load_Cycle_Count) (see also rc.resume)
ataidle_enable=YES
ataidle_device=ad0
ataidle_ad0=-P 0 0 0

But this is a laptop .. apmd is not likely of much use for a desktop, 
unless it would support S3 (suspend-to-RAM) under ACPI also.

  Also what is the differences between Sleep, Stand By, Hibernation and 
  Suspend?

Language depends on manufacturer to some extent.  M$ (and so most BIOS) 
refer to suspend-to-RAM (S3 sleep state) as StandBy, FreeBSD calls this 
suspend, and standby (S1) is likely just a stop-clock state.  Hibernate 
(S4) means writing all system state to disk and powering off, and so far 
requires BIOS support (it actually works on my old laptop using APM, but 
not ACPI, and requires a pre-allocated hibernation file in an MSDOS disk 
slice).  Someone was working on S4(OS) for FreeBSD a couple of years ago 
for a Google SoC project, but I don't think it was ever completed.

cheers, Ian
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Re: Xorg Problems

2010-08-19 Thread Tamas Szakaly
My guess: the windows are not locked, they just don't receive any input, 
because X does not see your mouse and keyboard. Make sure that hal and 
dbus are started before you start X!

toma
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Re: fixed: can't find .so, but it's right there.

2010-08-19 Thread glarkin

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freebsd.org maillist mx discard policy

2010-08-19 Thread Jeff Laine

Hello list,

My question is regarding official maillist smtp servers. I'm trying to 
subscribe on security-notifications, but (for some reasons) our 
outgoing MX has no PTR record and mx1.freebsd.org rejects my message:



Reporting-MTA: dns; xxx
Arrival-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:18:39 +0400 (MSD)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; 
freebsd-security-notifications-requ...@freebsd.org

Action: delayed
Status: 4.7.1
Remote-MTA: DNS; mx1.freebsd.org
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: cannot find 
your hostname, [x.x.x.x]

Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:24:36 +0400 (MSD)


I have the SPF record set up for our domain which designates our 
external IP as a valid sender address for the domain, but I still get 
rejected.


So, the question is: do the freebsd.org maillist servers follow SPF 
records or PTR record is mandatory?



TIA.

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Re: Xorg Problems

2010-08-19 Thread Joshua Isom

On 8/19/2010 6:20 AM, Rem Roberti wrote:

I'm having trouble with xorg on a new 8.1 installation.  I haven't
installed a wm yet, but when I try to call up the generic x windows by
typing startx they do indeed appear, but all three of the x windows
are locked up. By that I mean that there is no mouse, and no possibility
of entering data in the windows via the keyboard. Totally frozen. And
you can't get out of x in the usual manner i.e. ctrl-alt-backspace. The
only thing that works is ctrl-alt-del which, of course, reboots the
computer. Any ideas are appreciated.

Rem



Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and go from there.  If something's not 
working, it's probably in there, or verbosity can be added to make it 
show up.

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Re: [off-topic] Server-side IRC channel logging? (not statistics)

2010-08-19 Thread Joshua Isom

On 8/18/2010 8:51 PM, Glen Barber wrote:

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Hi,

I recently set up an IRC server (irc/ircd-hybrid), which I don't see
obvious settings for finely tuned channel logging.  What I would like to
do is log individual channels without depending on a connected client.

In all my searching I found software that either:

1.) depends on a 100% connected client, but provides concise logging of
channel activity;

2.) logs statistics, rather than the useful information I am trying to
obtain such as, who pastes the most links, who 'smiley's the most, etc.

My interest is in the useful information in the channel, not statistics;
ultimately, I want to have the channel conversations archived.

I'd like to do this on the server itself.  For example, in the event I
have to reboot my machine or the disk dies, or whatever bad event, I
don't want to concern myself with missed data, corrupt logs, or a
disconnected client, so I would like this to run unprivileged and
without an interactive shell.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to hear them before I go
reinventing the wheel.

Thanks, best regards, and sorry for the off-topic post.

- --
Glen Barber


So you can set up the server but you can't install a client on the 
server machine?  If you put a client on the server, then if the server 
goes down, the client goes down anyway, but if the server goes up and 
you make a file in /etc/rc.d/ then the client also goes up.  You can 
have near continual monitoring, assuming you have a stable client and 
you're not concerned about those seconds when the server comes up.  If 
you want it done on the irc server you'll have to find a irc server that 
can handle it.  But there's plenty of irc bots out there that can 
probably do everything you want it too and if it's installed on the 
server hardware you'll have as good a reliability as the server itself, 
as long as the logging is good.  If the disk dies, data dies, that's 
just the way of life.  You could mitigate that, but it's always a 
possibility.

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Re: freebsd.org maillist mx discard policy

2010-08-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 19/08/2010 07:54, Jeff Laine wrote:
 So, the question is: do the freebsd.org maillist servers follow SPF
 records or PTR record is mandatory?
 

The PTR is mandatory.  The vast majority of SMTP senders without proper
PTR records are zombie machines spreading spam.  Anyone running a real
mail system should be capable of arranging for a correct PTR in the DNS
-- if they aren't then they have no business at the controls of a MTA.

As far as I know, the FreeBSD.org mailers don't pay much attention to
SPF -- generally the accepted practice seems to be to use SPF as part of
computing Spam scores, but not to make accept/reject decisions solely
based on SPF.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Strange network issue (packet loss?)

2010-08-19 Thread Antonio Kless
Server has 1000 Mbit network interface connected to 1000 Mbit Cisco switch.
Let's say this things works OK.
Actually, provider gives 10 Mbit channel.

Here we go:

# uname -a
FreeBSD server.net 7.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 26 02:33:48
MSD 2010 u...@server.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ALTERKERN  amd64

# ifconfig igb0
igb0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=19bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4
ether 00:30:48:de:9a:4e
inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 1.2.3.255
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX full-duplex)
status: active

# scp -C u...@remote-server.net:/usr/bak/* /usr/bak
Password:
dump.2010.08.19_07-46-58.sql
13%  172MB   3.0MB/s   06:08 ETA
Disconnecting: Corrupted MAC on input.
lost connection


I repeat that about 20 times. Error goes in random moment and point
(percentage) of downloading.


# ifconfig igb0 media 100BaseTX
# ifconfig igb0
igb0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=19bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4
ether 00:30:48:de:9a:4e
inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 1.2.3.255
media: Ethernet 100baseTX (100baseTX half-duplex)
status: active

# scp -C u...@remote-server.net:/usr/bak/* /usr/bak
Password:
dump.2010.08.19_07-46-58.sql
100% 1291MB   3.1MB/s   07:00


That's works! But why half-duplex? Go next:


# ifconfig igb0 media 100BaseTX mediaopt full-duplex
# ifconfig igb0
igb0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=19bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4
ether 00:30:48:de:9a:4e
inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 1.2.3.255
media: Ethernet 100baseTX full-duplex
status: active

# scp -C u...@remote-server.net:/usr/bak/* /usr/bak
Password:
dump.2010.08.19_07-46-58.sql
82% 1069MB 453.2KB/s   08:20 ETA
^C
Killed by signal 2.


OMG! Where has the speed get lost?

What could be the reason, any ideas?

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Re: clamav issues

2010-08-19 Thread Paul Macdonald

 On 18/08/2010 22:38, Paul Macdonald wrote:

Paul Macdonald wrote:

Jerry wrote:

On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:25:21 +0100
Paul Macdonald p...@ifdnrg.com articulated:



I'm having some problems with a clamav install and wondered if 
anyone had any suggestions.


As of a few days ago i noticed mail was getting rejected with 451
retry codes.

Checking the milters this appeared to be clamav, and removing this 
milter fixed the problem.


Afterwards, on tryign to fix the issue, i noticed that whilst clamd 
started ok, it no longer stopped and just endlessly waited for the

pid.

I suspect this is related, as freshclam also was unable to notifuy
clamd of updates.

I've rebuilt clamav several times, mainly thinking that the first
issue of why it wouldn;t stop was indictaive of it not responding to
other requests ( milter , freshclam etc).

I've moved the mail scanning onto another box, but would dearly like
it to be working on this particular box.

Where to start?  Suggestions welcomed!


Perhaps you could try the following - basically nuking clamav

1) Stop Clamav/Freshclam and the milter if it is running.
2) Run: pkg_delete -dfv clamav-0.96.2_1
3) Remove or rename any config files of Clamav and it children. Also,
be sure to delete all of Clamav's definition files.
4) Remove old Clamav log files
5) Insure that any stale 'pid' files are deleted.
6) cd to the clamav port and run make config
7) Install the port and modify the Clamav/Freshclam/Clamilter config
files are needed.
8 Either reboot or start manually all of the Clamav programs you
require. (I would recommend the reboot)

Good luck!
thanks jerry, i'd pretty much done this, but followed these 
instructions with those specific flasg and am still not able to use 
the startup scripts to stop clamd after its started,
The pid in /var/run/clamav/ is correct, but it never manages to stop 
the daemon.
I'm working from the assumption that i need to get it responding to 
normal signals before trying any scanning ( i have tried adding it 
back in to my sendmail config as get the same result as originally)


I've got all the debugging on, and see nothing in logs when its told 
to restart or sent any signals.


Paul.



clamav now works fine when installing as a package over ftp, so thats 
a working although an unsatisying result..


thanks



in case it helps anyone, i finally got this workjing from ports by 
disabling the JIT bytecode compiler.


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Re: Xorg Problems

2010-08-19 Thread Thomas Mueller
 I'm having trouble with xorg on a new 8.1 installation.  I haven't installed 
 a wm yet, but when I try to call up the generic x windows by typing startx 
 they do indeed appear, but all three of the x windows are locked up.  By that 
 I mean that there is no mouse, and no possibility of entering data in the 
 windows via the keyboard.  Totally frozen.  And you can't get out of x in the 
 usual manner i.e. ctrl-alt-backspace.  The only thing that works is 
 ctrl-alt-del which, of course, reboots the computer.  Any ideas are 
 appreciated.

 Rem

I had that problem too, looked extensively for possible answers, and one that 
worked was

Option AllowEmptyInput false

Now I can't remember if it was AllowEmptyInput (no spaces) or Allow Empty 
Input but would think the former; am in Linux as I type this and didn't need 
that line in that xorg.conf .

Synonyms for false are 0 off no
Antonyms are true 1 on yes

I got Xfce 4.6.1, built from the FreeBSD meta port, to work.

I think initially startx is set to start twm, a spartan window manager that is 
included with xorg.


Tom
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Re: watch(8) does not work in jails

2010-08-19 Thread Roland Smith

   Dear Sir/Madam,
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   it to.
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Re: [off-topic] Server-side IRC channel logging? (not statistics)

2010-08-19 Thread Glen Barber
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On 8/19/10 4:18 AM, Joshua Isom wrote:
 So you can set up the server but you can't install a client on the
 server machine?  

I can - I would prefer not to.

- -- 
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Re: Why network doesn't get initialized on system startup?

2010-08-19 Thread Glen Barber
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On 8/19/10 2:00 AM, Yuri wrote:
 On another rc.conf has:
 wlans_ndis0=wlan0
 ifconfig_wlan0=ssid wifi-net-id weptxkey 1 deftxkey 1 wepmode on wepkey
 0x1234567890 DHCP
 and this one doesn't get initialized at startup.

Are you loading the ndis(4) kernel module at boot via loader.conf?

- -- 
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Re: clamav issues

2010-08-19 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:43:14 +0100
Paul Macdonald p...@ifdnrg.com articulated:

 in case it helps anyone, i finally got this workjing from ports by 
 disabling the JIT bytecode compiler.

You might want to file a bug on this, both with FreeBSD and Clamav. I
have everything checked except:

1) LDAP
2) STDERR
3) EXPERIMENTAL

The port builds without errors and runs fine. It might be interesting
to see why yours is failing.


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Re: fix bad directory on FAT32 usb disk

2010-08-19 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:27:30 +0800
Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com articulated:

 Glen Barber wrote:

  On 8/18/10 9:55 AM, Fbsd8 wrote:
  I have a fat32 usb disk that gives this error when mounting with
  mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1bad fat32 file system
 
  Is there some way to clean or auto fix this fat32 file system so
  it will mount?
  
  Hi,
  
  You can try fsck_msdosfs(8).  Does it mount in other OSes?
  
  Regards,
  
  - -- 
  Glen Barber
 
 In XP I can access the usb hard drive and read/write all directories 
 except one which gives a error.
 
 fsck_msdosfs /dev/da0   gives  error  Invalid sector size 48764

You could try this:

Go to a command prompt, i.e. WIN_KEY+R and type cmd RETURN
Enter: chkdsk [volume] /F /V /R /X

It might require you to reboot the system before it will run. That is
normal. You will almost certainly have to reboot after it completes
it operation.

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Re: watch(8) does not work in jails

2010-08-19 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:57:28 +1000
Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl articulated:

 
Dear Sir/Madam,
Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were
 sending it to.
For more information on our business please click on the following
link:
[1]Click here for our website
We look forward to your continued business in the future.
Regards,
Webmaster
 
 References
 
1. http://www.downwind.com.au/avdir/rd.php?id=7564


Why is this crap polluting this list? I have been receiving multiple
copies of this junk for awhile now. The link simple redirects to:  

http://www.searchmagna.com/?domain=xpbargains.netfolder=404648785ts=pl

Isn't there any way to stop this garbage?

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change the password e-mail account

2010-08-19 Thread Ivan Klymenko
В Thu, 19 Aug 2010 07:04:10 -0400
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net пишет:

 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:57:28 +1000
 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl articulated:
 
  
 Dear Sir/Madam,
 Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were
  sending it to.
 For more information on our business please click on the
  following link:
 [1]Click here for our website
 We look forward to your continued business in the future.
 Regards,
 Webmaster
  
  References
  
 1. http://www.downwind.com.au/avdir/rd.php?id=7564
 
 
 Why is this crap polluting this list? I have been receiving multiple
 copies of this junk for awhile now. The link simple redirects to:  
 
 http://www.searchmagna.com/?domain=xpbargains.netfolder=404648785ts=pl
 
 Isn't there any way to stop this garbage?
 

All senders, with this the contents of letter, an urgent need to change
the password e-mail account!
I think that broke password mailboxes...

From my email too, came a letter to the mailing list, but I did not
send it :(
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Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions

2010-08-19 Thread Ian Smith
Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 324, Issue 7, Message: 7
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:46:21 -0400 jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:

  Subject: Re: enabling the fn-f7 switch monitor functionality
  To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Cc: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org

Yes, that likely gets to postmaster@ indirectly.

  Message-ID: 4c6ca90d.4000...@dataix.net
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
  
  
  Dear Sir/Madam,
  Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending
  it to.
  For more information on our business please click on the following
  link:
  [1]Click here for our website
  We look forward to your continued business in the future.
  Regards,
  Webmaster
   
   References
   
  1. http://www.downwind.com.au/avdir/rd.php?id=7564
  
  Can someone please take care of this. Its getting to be quite annoying.

Indeed.  That's because noone had forwarded copies with complete headers 
to postmas...@freebsd.org, who I bet hasn't the spare time to browse a 
fraction of the freebsd lists (let alone -questions :)

Sorry, I (need to) get the digest, only seeing short headers as quoted.

cheers, Ian
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Re: Xorg Problems

2010-08-19 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Ondrej Majerech wrote:


On 19-Aug-10 13:20, Rem Roberti wrote:

I'm having trouble with xorg on a new 8.1 installation.  I haven't
installed a wm yet, but when I try to call up the generic x windows by
typing startx they do indeed appear, but all three of the x windows
are locked up. By that I mean that there is no mouse, and no possibility
of entering data in the windows via the keyboard. Totally frozen. And
you can't get out of x in the usual manner i.e. ctrl-alt-backspace. The
only thing that works is ctrl-alt-del which, of course, reboots the
computer. Any ideas are appreciated.


The Handbook chapter describes what to do:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

New Xorg requires HAL and Dbus to recognize input devices by default. Do 
you have these enabled?


Alternatively, you revert to the old, no-HAL method by adding

Option AutoAddDevices False


Yes.


Option AllowEmptyInput False


No.  Please don't use that, it's not necessary and sometimes causes 
problems.  AutoAddDevices Off by itself disables hal input device 
detection.



into your ServerFlags in xorg.conf.


Or just put them in ServerLayout.

You might also want to add Option DontZap false into the same section as 
well to have Ctrl-Alt-Backspace working again.


I think that DontZap is back to the default, but it's now the key 
combination that is unset, so setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp 
is the way to fix it.  But it's been a while since I've needed to kill 
X manually, so haven't tried it lately.

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Re: Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions

2010-08-19 Thread Ryan Coleman
I did a full header copy earlier. Perhaps someone could/should have forwarded 
that out? Just a thought. 

On Aug 19, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Ian Smith wrote:

 Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 324, Issue 7, Message: 7
 On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:46:21 -0400 jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: enabling the fn-f7 switch monitor functionality
 To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
 
 Yes, that likely gets to postmaster@ indirectly.
 
 Message-ID: 4c6ca90d.4000...@dataix.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 
   Dear Sir/Madam,
   Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending
   it to.
   For more information on our business please click on the following
   link:
   [1]Click here for our website
   We look forward to your continued business in the future.
   Regards,
   Webmaster
 
 References
 
   1. http://www.downwind.com.au/avdir/rd.php?id=7564
 
 Can someone please take care of this. Its getting to be quite annoying.
 
 Indeed.  That's because noone had forwarded copies with complete headers 
 to postmas...@freebsd.org, who I bet hasn't the spare time to browse a 
 fraction of the freebsd lists (let alone -questions :)
 
 Sorry, I (need to) get the digest, only seeing short headers as quoted.
 
 cheers, Ian
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Re: Xorg Problems

2010-08-19 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Thomas Mueller wrote:


I'm having trouble with xorg on a new 8.1 installation.  I haven't installed a wm yet, 
but when I try to call up the generic x windows by typing startx they do 
indeed appear, but all three of the x windows are locked up.  By that I mean that there 
is no mouse, and no possibility of entering data in the windows via the keyboard.  
Totally frozen.  And you can't get out of x in the usual manner i.e. ctrl-alt-backspace.  
The only thing that works is ctrl-alt-del which, of course, reboots the computer.  Any 
ideas are appreciated.



Rem


I had that problem too, looked extensively for possible answers, and one that 
worked was

Option AllowEmptyInput false

Now I can't remember if it was AllowEmptyInput (no spaces) or Allow Empty 
Input but would think the former; am in Linux as I type this and didn't need that line 
in that xorg.conf .


Don't need it in FreeBSD, either.  In fact, using it in FreeBSD often 
causes hesitant input characters that only show up when you move the 
mouse.  Or a draggy mouse.  Or both.


If you want to disable hal input device detection in X, use
Option AutoAddDevices Off

AllowEmptyInput will borrow your stuff and never return it.
AllowEmptyInput will cause trouble and say it was your idea.
AllowEmptyInput cheats at cards.
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Re: Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions

2010-08-19 Thread Rod Person

At 08:31 AM 08/19/2010, Ian Smith wrote:

  Can someone please take care of this. Its getting to be quite annoying.

Indeed.  That's because noone had forwarded copies with complete headers
to postmas...@freebsd.org, who I bet hasn't the spare time to browse a
fraction of the freebsd lists (let alone -questions :)


Can some explain to me or know what criteria is used to determine 
when a posting to the lists need moderation?
I have read post in the past that say the list is not moderated or 
comments such as above.


But, then I try to post something and I get a you posting is 
awaiting moderator approval. Then I get a email that
my posting was rejected with comments that state I don't see what 
this has to do with FreeBSD. But, then we have
these junk mail and forged mail issues, not to mention I see replies 
that go way off topic of FreeBSD.


Just wondering.



Rod

From delusion lead me to Truth.
From darkness lead me to Light.
From death lead me to Immortality.
  -Upanishads prayer 


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Re: Xorg Problems

2010-08-19 Thread Ondrej Majerech

On 08/19/2010 15:02, Warren Block wrote:

Now I can't remember if it was AllowEmptyInput (no spaces) or Allow
Empty Input but would think the former; am in Linux as I type this
and didn't need that line in that xorg.conf .


Don't need it in FreeBSD, either. In fact, using it in FreeBSD often
causes hesitant input characters that only show up when you move the
mouse. Or a draggy mouse. Or both.


And all these years I've been using AllowEmptyInput with no problems 
whatsoever. Still good to know it may cause trouble.




AllowEmptyInput will borrow your stuff and never return it.
AllowEmptyInput will cause trouble and say it was your idea.
AllowEmptyInput cheats at cards.


On a second thought, it might explain a few things that have been going 
on in my life lately...


~ Ondra
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Re: Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions

2010-08-19 Thread Ian Smith
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Rod Person wrote:
  At 08:31 AM 08/19/2010, Ian Smith wrote:
 Can someone please take care of this. Its getting to be quite annoying.
   
   Indeed.  That's because noone had forwarded copies with complete headers
   to postmas...@freebsd.org, who I bet hasn't the spare time to browse a
   fraction of the freebsd lists (let alone -questions :)
  
  Can some explain to me or know what criteria is used to determine when a
  posting to the lists need moderation?
  I have read post in the past that say the list is not moderated or comments
  such as above.

I was really hoping not to start a bikeshed discussion :(  This is a 
spam / mail abuse issue, not one about content, and yes it's off-topic 
but needs dealing with.

This list is not moderated and is open to posting by non-subscribers; 
it's been that way for a very long time, and arguing for moderation 
won't change anything - who would have the time, anyway?  Some other 
freebsd lists are only open to posting by subscribers.

  But, then I try to post something and I get a you posting is awaiting
  moderator approval.

There are some automatic checks; you can get that by cross-posting to 
too many lists (more than two or three IIRC); sending to too many 
recipients; posting to a list requiring subscription, maybe others.

  Then I get a email that my posting was rejected with comments that 
  state I don't see what this has to do with FreeBSD. But, then we 
  have these junk mail and forged mail issues, not to mention I see 
  replies that go way off topic of FreeBSD.

Some list subscribers sometimes (try to) help by mailing people off-list 
about perceived off-topicness etc.  There's nobody here but us chickens.

The postmaster (and assistants), on the other hand, is/are the only ones 
who can do anything about blocking spammers and other abusers posting 
to freebsd lists, and that's generally best all dealt with off-list.

postmaster@ removed from ccs; this won't help him locate the problem.

cheers, Ian  (over and out on this topic)
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Re: Realtek 8139/8201L Ethernet PHY driver

2010-08-19 Thread Jack L. Stone

   Dear Sir/Madam,
   Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending
   it to.
   For more information on our business please click on the following
   link:
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References

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can't ping localhost

2010-08-19 Thread Tim Kellers
I first noticed the problem when the machine stopped sending local mail; 
a typical entry:


Aug 19 10:08:30 online sm-msp-queue[68533]: o7IKAhth008649: 
to=timot...@xxx.njit.edu, ctladdr=timothyk (1001/1001), delay=17:57:47, 
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3360050, relay=[127.0.0.1], 
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address


Non-local mail still works:

Aug 19 10:14:11 online sm-mta[68582]: o7JEEB8I068582: 
from=kell...@njit.edu, size=593, class=0, nrcpts=1, 
msgid=4c6d3c2e.1060...@njit.edu, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, 
relay=mail-xxx.njit.edu [128.235.251.157]
Aug 19 10:14:11 online sm-mta[68584]: o7JEEB8I068582: 
to=timot...@xxx.njit.edu, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, 
mailer=local, pri=30840, relay=local, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent


When I ping localhost:
# ping localhost
PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address

# uname -a
FreeBSD xxx.njit.edu 7.3-STABLE FreeBSD 7.3-STABLE #0: Tue Mar 30 
14:35:56 EDT 2010 
timot...@xxx.njit.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MARCH31  i386




/etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.conf, /etc/resolv.conf all look fine.  I diffed 
them with another working 7.3-STABLE machine I have.


I have built world and kernel to yesterday's 7.3-STABLE, but I haven't 
rebooted the machine.  I'm thinking that if this is a hardware problem, 
once it goes down for a reboot, it may not come back up.


I'm eagerly open to suggestions.


Tim Kellers
NJIT
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Re: can't ping localhost

2010-08-19 Thread Glen Barber
On 8/19/10 10:21 AM, Tim Kellers wrote:
 When I ping localhost:
 # ping localhost
 PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
 ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address

Hi,

Is the loopback interface (lo0) up?

Regards,

-- 
Glen Barber
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Re: can't ping localhost

2010-08-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 19/08/2010 15:21, Tim Kellers wrote:
 I'm eagerly open to suggestions.
 

What does 'ifconfig lo0' say?

What does 'sockstat | grep :25' say?

What does 'ls -la /usr/libexec/sendmail/' say?

What does 'mount | grep /usr' say?

It sounds as if either:

   * Your loopback interface has lost address 127.0.0.1

or:

   * Some process other than a live sendmail instance has bound to port
 25 on the loopback.

or:

   * sendmail has somehow lost its setgid-ness

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions

2010-08-19 Thread Arthur Chance

On 08/19/10 14:33, Rod Person wrote:

At 08:31 AM 08/19/2010, Ian Smith wrote:

 Can someone please take care of this. Its getting to be quite annoying.

Indeed. That's because noone had forwarded copies with complete headers
to postmas...@freebsd.org, who I bet hasn't the spare time to browse a
fraction of the freebsd lists (let alone -questions :)


I've simply been deleting most of these up to now but took a look at 
some today and many (I can't say all) have a second (lowest but one) 
Received: header starting


 Received: from dusk.parklogic.com (allmail.0b2.net [64.38.11.26])

and first (lowest) Received: header like

 Received: (qmail 9237 invoked by uid 511); 19 Aug 2010 14:48:30 -


Don't know if that's any help to anyone.

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Re: can't ping localhost

2010-08-19 Thread Tim Kellers

On 08/19/10 10:55, Glen Barber wrote:

On 8/19/10 10:21 AM, Tim Kellers wrote:
   

When I ping localhost:
# ping localhost
PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
 

Hi,

Is the loopback interface (lo0) up?

Regards,

   


lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128

Nope, it is not.  And I don't know how that can happen.


Thanks

Tim Kellers

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Re: enabling the fn-f7 switch monitor functionality

2010-08-19 Thread jhell
On 08/19/2010 03:30, Ivan Klymenko wrote:
 В Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:46:21 -0400
 jhell jh...@dataix.net пишет:
 

Dear Sir/Madam,
Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were
 sending it to.
For more information on our business please click on the
 following link:
[1]Click here for our website
We look forward to your continued business in the future.
Regards,
Webmaster

 References

1. http://www.downwind.com.au/avdir/rd.php?id=7564

 Can someone please take care of this. Its getting to be quite
 annoying.
 
 If this letter is sent from your name mailbox - you need to urgently
 change the password in your email account!!!
 It appears that your boxes hacked ...
 
From my email too, came a letter to the mailing list: (

This is a case of squatter solicitation  forged mail. ``Not Hacking''

Thanks,

-- 

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Re: can't ping localhost

2010-08-19 Thread Tim Kellers

On 08/19/10 11:02, Matthew Seaman wrote:

On 19/08/2010 15:21, Tim Kellers wrote:
   

I'm eagerly open to suggestions.

 

What does 'ifconfig lo0' say?

What does 'sockstat | grep :25' say?

What does 'ls -la /usr/libexec/sendmail/' say?

What does 'mount | grep /usr' say?

It sounds as if either:

* Your loopback interface has lost address 127.0.0.1

or:

* Some process other than a live sendmail instance has bound to port
  25 on the loopback.

or:

* sendmail has somehow lost its setgid-ness

Cheers,

Matthew

   

# ifconfig lo0
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128

(lo0 looks unconfigured to me)

# sockstat | grep :25
root sendmail   7371  3  tcp4   *:25  *:*
root sendmail   7371  5  tcp6   *:25  *:*

(that looks fine to me)

# ls -la /usr/libexec/sendmail/
total 676
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel 512 Mar 30 21:03 .
drwxr-xr-x  5 root  wheel1536 Mar 30 21:03 ..
-r-xr-sr-x  1 root  smmsp  669788 Mar 30 21:03 sendmail

(looks OK to me, too)

# mount | grep /usr
/dev/aacd0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates)

(Looks normal to me, too)

Thanks

Tim Kellers


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Re: Why network doesn't get initialized on system startup?

2010-08-19 Thread Yuri

On 08/19/2010 03:10, Glen Barber wrote:

Are you loading the ndis(4) kernel module at boot via loader.conf?
   


Yes, all ndis-related drivers (ndis.ko, if_ndis.ko and actual ndis 
driver converted from windows one) are loaded from loader.conf.
When system comes up ndis0 is fully functional and I can initialize it 
by hand fine. It just doesn't happen on startup.


Yuri
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Re: can't ping localhost

2010-08-19 Thread Tim Kellers

On 08/19/10 11:51, mikel king wrote:

Your lo0 only has inet6 addresses, perhaps try binding a v4 address?

Cheers,
m!

On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:12, Tim Kellerskell...@njit.edu  wrote:

   

On 08/19/10 11:02, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 

On 19/08/2010 15:21, Tim Kellers wrote:

   

I'm eagerly open to suggestions.


 

What does 'ifconfig lo0' say?

What does 'sockstat | grep :25' say?

What does 'ls -la /usr/libexec/sendmail/' say?

What does 'mount | grep /usr' say?

It sounds as if either:

* Your loopback interface has lost address 127.0.0.1

or:

* Some process other than a live sendmail instance has bound to port
  25 on the loopback.

or:

* sendmail has somehow lost its setgid-ness

Cheers,

Matthew


   

# ifconfig lo0
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST  metric 0 mtu 16384
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128

(lo0 looks unconfigured to me)

# sockstat | grep :25
root sendmail   7371  3  tcp4   *:25  *:*
root sendmail   7371  5  tcp6   *:25  *:*

(that looks fine to me)

# ls -la /usr/libexec/sendmail/
total 676
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel 512 Mar 30 21:03 .
drwxr-xr-x  5 root  wheel1536 Mar 30 21:03 ..
-r-xr-sr-x  1 root  smmsp  669788 Mar 30 21:03 sendmail

(looks OK to me, too)

# mount | grep /usr
/dev/aacd0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates)

(Looks normal to me, too)

Thanks

Tim Kellers


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Thanks,

Once I saw that lo0 was not configured for ipv4, I did a:

#ifconfig lo0 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0

and local mail resolved and was delivered and I can now ping localhost.

I just have to wonder how in heck it got that way.

Thanks all

Tim Kellers
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Re: can't ping localhost

2010-08-19 Thread mikel king
Your lo0 only has inet6 addresses, perhaps try binding a v4 address?

Cheers,
m!

On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:12, Tim Kellers kell...@njit.edu wrote:

 On 08/19/10 11:02, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On 19/08/2010 15:21, Tim Kellers wrote:
   
 I'm eagerly open to suggestions.
 
 
 What does 'ifconfig lo0' say?
 
 What does 'sockstat | grep :25' say?
 
 What does 'ls -la /usr/libexec/sendmail/' say?
 
 What does 'mount | grep /usr' say?
 
 It sounds as if either:
 
* Your loopback interface has lost address 127.0.0.1
 
 or:
 
* Some process other than a live sendmail instance has bound to port
  25 on the loopback.
 
 or:
 
* sendmail has somehow lost its setgid-ness
 
Cheers,
 
Matthew
 
   
 # ifconfig lo0
 lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
 
 (lo0 looks unconfigured to me)
 
 # sockstat | grep :25
 root sendmail   7371  3  tcp4   *:25  *:*
 root sendmail   7371  5  tcp6   *:25  *:*
 
 (that looks fine to me)
 
 # ls -la /usr/libexec/sendmail/
 total 676
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel 512 Mar 30 21:03 .
 drwxr-xr-x  5 root  wheel1536 Mar 30 21:03 ..
 -r-xr-sr-x  1 root  smmsp  669788 Mar 30 21:03 sendmail
 
 (looks OK to me, too)
 
 # mount | grep /usr
 /dev/aacd0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates)
 
 (Looks normal to me, too)
 
 Thanks
 
 Tim Kellers
 
 
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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-19 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 01:01:08AM -0400, Derek Schwartz wrote:
 Hey, I'm trying to install the latest release of FreeBSD on my Dell
 Desktop, the computer originally had windows XP, but then the hard
 drive was wiped clean.
 I tried reconfiguring the geometry of the hard drive by using my Linux
 Ubuntu Disk Utility, I changed it to {0-a5} which I heard was for
 FreeBSD, but still no luck.

Well, 165 or 0xA5 is indeed the system partition ID for FreeBSD. But that has
nothing to do with the disk geometry (which is cilinders/heads/sectors and
which you should _not_ mess with).

Read and follow Chapter 2 of the freeBSD handbook; 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html

Pay attention to §2.6, Allocating Disk Space.

Since you are installing a desktop, I would recommend to create a separate
partition (in the FreeBSD Disklabel Editor, _not_ FDISK!) for your /home. That
makes it easier to separately back up the OS and your own data.


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Re: Xorg Problems

2010-08-19 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Ondrej Majerech wrote:

On 08/19/2010 15:02, Warren Block wrote:


Don't need it in FreeBSD, either. In fact, using it in FreeBSD often
causes hesitant input characters that only show up when you move the
mouse. Or a draggy mouse. Or both.


Finally got motivated to put together a little writeup on this:

http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html
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How to restore a text file from UFS??

2010-08-19 Thread EforeZZ
I edited my 50Kb /etc/rc.conf, loaded a driver and got a kernel panic!!
After reboot my /etc/rc.conf is 0 bytes (after automatic background fsck).
Which tool should I try now to restore any version of my rc.conf?..
I think data should still be somewhere on the disk

;-(
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[OT] AllowEmptyInput is bad (was: Re: Xorg Problems)

2010-08-19 Thread Glen Barber
On 8/19/10 1:59 PM, Warren Block wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Ondrej Majerech wrote:
 On 08/19/2010 15:02, Warren Block wrote:

 Don't need it in FreeBSD, either. In fact, using it in FreeBSD often
 causes hesitant input characters that only show up when you move the
 mouse. Or a draggy mouse. Or both.
 
 Finally got motivated to put together a little writeup on this:
 
 http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html

Can we have an RSS feed for that last section? :)

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Re: How to restore a text file from UFS??

2010-08-19 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:07 PM, EforeZZ efor...@gmail.com wrote:

 I edited my 50Kb /etc/rc.conf, loaded a driver and got a kernel panic!!
 After reboot my /etc/rc.conf is 0 bytes (after automatic background fsck).
 Which tool should I try now to restore any version of my rc.conf?..
 I think data should still be somewhere on the disk


You should restore from backup, not an option if you use the Do Nothing
strategy.


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/backup-basics.html


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devd enabling the fn-f7 switch monitor functionality

2010-08-19 Thread Eitan Adler
Any further input on this issue?

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:
 # kldstat|grep acpi_ibm
 12    1 0xc121d000 5244     acpi_ibm.ko
 # tail -6 /etc/devd.conf
 notify 0 {
      match system          ACPI;
      match subsystem       IBM;
      match notify          0x07;
      action /home/eitan/xbin/do-switch-screen.sh;
 };

 # ls -laod /home/eitan/xbin/do-switch-screen.sh
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 eitan  eitan  - 88 Aug 16 10:57:05 2010
 /home/eitan/xbin/do-switch-screen.sh*
 % dmesg|tail
 acpi_ec0: EcRead: failed waiting to get data
 ACPI Exception: AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE, Returned by Handler for
 [EmbeddedControl] (20100331/evregion-588)
 ACPI Error (psparse-0633): Method parse/execution failed
 [\\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.BAT1._BST] (Node 0xc6ad8d40),
 AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
 acpi_ec0: EcRead: failed waiting to get data
 ACPI Exception: AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE, Returned by Handler for
 [EmbeddedControl] (20100331/evregion-588)
 ACPI Error (psparse-0633): Method parse/execution failed
 [\\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.BAT1._BST] (Node 0xc6ad8d40),
 AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
 drm0: [ITHREAD]
 acpi_ec0: EcRead: failed waiting to get data
 ACPI Exception: AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE, Returned by Handler for
 [EmbeddedControl] (20100331/evregion-588)
 ACPI Error (psparse-0633): Method parse/execution failed
 [\\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.BAT1._BST] (Node 0xc6ad8d40),
 AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE

 In the script I have touch $0.ran but the file does not get created.


 Is there some program that would allow me to watch ACPI events? Is
 there some way I could known that the key is 0x07?

  Add

  notify 0 {
       match system          ACPI;
       match subsystem       IBM;
       match notify          0x07;
       action /full/path/to/script;
 };

  to /etc/devd.conf


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Re: well, i guess it's time to ask.....

2010-08-19 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 08:26:11AM +0700, C. Bergstr?m wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
 ok guys, 
 i have been waiting for [a] a better/faster/more generally useful
 computer as well as =mostly= cheaper unit.  i figured i would wait
 until fall to ask, but it's close enough.
 
 can i watch a streamed movie on am atom [[[1.6ghz intel]]] chip.
   
 (Disclaimer I work for a commercial compiler company)
 
 If you experience problems with performance of Atom I would generally 
 not blame the processor.  There are *zero* very well tuned compilers for 
 Atom that I'm aware of.  Most are content that the compiler works good 
 enough(tm) and it's difficult (impossible) to get the low level timing 
 data details out of Intel.  Unless you're hand writing inline asm 
 (*cough* ffmpeg) then it's certainly possible the code isn't optimized 
 well enough.  Depending on what else the processor is busy with, codec 
 type and video size it should certainly possible to stream an average 
 sized movie with no problem.  Now can it handle Blu-ray I doubt it...


i am not planning on watching a movie that is on a DVD-RW but 
via [say] kmplayer via video stream.  and rather than the std
'movie-length' of 120 minutes, an hour or less streamed by PBS.

with my 2.4ghz Dell loaded at its usual 0.25 - 0.4, and using
kmplayer or vlc, the video is jerky or hangs for several seconds.

i probably should get-real and use whatever notebook i buy for 
what i originally intended it for: as a small and usable computer
than can produce understandable speech.  

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Re: Xorg Problems

2010-08-19 Thread b. f.
Warren Block wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Ondrej Majerech wrote:
 On 08/19/2010 15:02, Warren Block wrote:

 Don't need it in FreeBSD, either. In fact, using it in FreeBSD often
 causes hesitant input characters that only show up when you move the
 mouse. Or a draggy mouse. Or both.

Finally got motivated to put together a little writeup on this:

http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html

Isn't your summary (and your last section, despite it being
tongue-in-cheek) misleading, because it says that AllowEmptyInput is
bad, when you actually mean that it is _good_, and that _disabling_ it
in Xorg.conf is bad? Or am I missing something?

b.
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Re: How to restore a text file from UFS??

2010-08-19 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:07 PM, EforeZZ efor...@gmail.com wrote:
 I edited my 50Kb /etc/rc.conf, loaded a driver and got a kernel panic!!
 After reboot my /etc/rc.conf is 0 bytes (after automatic background fsck).
 Which tool should I try now to restore any version of my rc.conf?..
 I think data should still be somewhere on the disk

1. Have you looked into /lost+found ?

2. You could try to grep the raw device of the root partition,
searching for known fragments of the old /etc/rc.conf,
and then manually recreate it. But do this fast, before
the now freed blocks are reused and thus overwritten
again. You do have a small separate / partition, right?
Better run the system with / mounted read-only, until
you can find the deleted fragments.

 ;-(

-cpghost.

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Re: well, i guess it's time to ask.....

2010-08-19 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:38:20PM -0300, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 
  ok guys,
  i have been waiting for [a] a better/faster/more generally useful
  computer as well as =mostly= cheaper unit.  i figured i would wait
  until fall to ask, but it's close enough.
 
  can i watch a streamed movie on am atom [[[1.6ghz intel]]] chip.
  i have trouble on my 2003 dell that has a 2.4ghz cpu.  it has plenty of
  ram, disk, etc.  so i've hesitated.   on my 3.0gh thinkpad, streams fly
  flawlessly.  So if i buy one of the notebooks with a 7 - 10 screen,
  can i use it for things other than a text-to-speech computer?
 
  how thrifty | cheap should i be?  i'd like to buy the optical device
  rather than install via one of those stick memory devices.  i have
  never used anything but the disc.  i think it is at least two hundred
  bux more, but if it is a must, then so be it.  i've looked for am atom
  notebook fo r  200 bux. pretty hard to find, so are there any places i
  can trust?
 
  i saw an A9 tablet with some kind of keyboard that might work as a
  speech computer.  this is my real goal, leaving shit and shinola
  behind.  but i'm not sure that a tablet would be as useful as a
  notebook.
 
  RESt of the story: i'm using the kde ktt* along with the festival
  speech toolkit.  i also have vi/nvi or vim set up with around 125 abbrv
  so that people who type slowly can be more efficient.
 
 Way OT .. but it just hit me that some folks could benefit from that
 vim set up with around 125 abbrv if you posted somewhere ;)
 


sure thing!  i can put it up onmy bsd.thought.org page---if i 
still have that site.  the backstory is pretty short.  years before 
i tore up my shoulder, typing wasn't exactly =easy= so i used the
'abbrev' functionality of the original vi and added ~130 or so 
of the most freq english words [ plus computer-geek jargon ]. 

the stats showed that the average person could save about 31% of
his time if he memorized this list.  130-150 words was the drop-off
point.  i.e., memorizing 160 abbreviations might save 31.9% or
whatever it was.  i gave up on this project after an almost-new
SCSI drive crashed (nov, '99).  my tape backup overwrote itself.
my BAD.

And so it goes...



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Re: Xorg Problems

2010-08-19 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, b. f. wrote:


Warren Block wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Ondrej Majerech wrote:

On 08/19/2010 15:02, Warren Block wrote:


Don't need it in FreeBSD, either. In fact, using it in FreeBSD often
causes hesitant input characters that only show up when you move the
mouse. Or a draggy mouse. Or both.


Finally got motivated to put together a little writeup on this:

http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html


Isn't your summary (and your last section, despite it being
tongue-in-cheek) misleading, because it says that AllowEmptyInput is
bad, when you actually mean that it is _good_, and that _disabling_ it
in Xorg.conf is bad? Or am I missing something?


Think of it as having an invisible To disable hald, using prefix.

But point taken, I'll look at elaborating.
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Re: well, i guess it's time to ask.....

2010-08-19 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:16:51PM -0500, Depo Catcher wrote:
 
 On 8/18/2010 8:10 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
 've hesitated.   on my 3.0gh thinkpad, streams fly
 flawlessly.  So if i buy one of the notebooks with a
 
 Stream what kind of movies?  Some video players (like VLC) have hardware 
 acceleration that will help a lot if your video card/driver supports it.
 Things like Flash based movies might be kind of iffy though since they 
 can't take advantage of the video hardware [?].  Once you start moving 
 up to high def video you might have some problems, but know a lot of 
 Home Theater guys that use Atoms for media centers:
 http://hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=103


hm and hm.  do you have any idea if linux/ubuntu may have done
this?  i've got ubuntu 8.04 on my 'G41 Thinkpad' and it handles
whatever i stream pretty well.  even if i click fr 'full screen'
size.

 
 My gfs Atom 330 plays videos in VLC fine and flash fine, but full screen 
 flash drops frames.  This is under WinXP.
 The new D510 CPU are faster in benchmarks; it has dual cores with 
 hyperthreading.  If you wait a few months, the new D525 CPUs should be 
 out in consumer computers - these are 1.8Ghz (instead of 1.6Ghz) and 
 support DDR3 (instead of DDR2).  That might help a bit.  Both are 
 limited to 4 gigs.


you are going way over my head in talking brand name terminology,
:)   now i'm back to my original quandry of: do i want to hide
in my room and watch streaming video or built a tts device.   it's
like: Well, if i =wait= [just a bit longer] ...  :-D


 
 So, I would bet that 90% of the time it'll be enough if you have a good 
 video card with good drivers.  I'm not an expert on them though, I think 
 they are neat though.


i had no clue that there were flash movies until your note; but
it points u p the value of having a good driver.

 
 Another options would be to go with an i3/i5 or get a used 775 (core 2) 
 system.  My Core2Duo  2.2Ghz runs more than fast enough and can probably 
 get them for cheap if you buy them used.

need to have a small screen and low weight, pref.  but yeah, it's
an option.  thanks much for the datapoints.

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Re: well, i guess it's time to ask.....

2010-08-19 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:54:53AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 
   i am not planning on watching a movie that is on a DVD-RW but 
   via [say] kmplayer via video stream.  and rather than the std
   'movie-length' of 120 minutes, an hour or less streamed by PBS.
 
   with my 2.4ghz Dell loaded at its usual 0.25 - 0.4, and using
   kmplayer or vlc, the video is jerky or hangs for several seconds.

A 2.4 GHz machine with a decent grahics card should have no problem with
displaying full screen video, if you are using the XVideo extension. For
mplayer try '-vo xv' on the mplayer command line, or put 'vo=xv' in
~/.mplayer/config. For VLC choose tools-preferences, and in the dialog window
check Accelerated video output in the Video tab.

It sounds more like a network issue. (you can confirm that if you can play
files from a local disk without hiccups) Maybe increasing the buffering might
help. 

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Re: How to restore a text file from UFS??

2010-08-19 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 09:07:51PM +0300, EforeZZ wrote:
 I edited my 50Kb /etc/rc.conf, loaded a driver and got a kernel panic!!
 After reboot my /etc/rc.conf is 0 bytes (after automatic background fsck).
 Which tool should I try now to restore any version of my rc.conf?..

The programs from sysutils/sleuthkit might help.

 I think data should still be somewhere on the disk

That depends on if the partition where /etc/rc.conf is located is read/write
or read-only. In the latter case you are correct. In the former case part or
all of the sectors could have been re-used for other files.

For the best chance at recovery, make your root partition read-only _now_.

For future reference; you should never edit files in /etc/ directly. If you
want ot edit files in /etc or /usr/local/etc, first copy them to a directory
in your $HOME, put them under revision control and then edit them and copy the
edited files to /etc. That way you always have a backup and you can even
restore previous versions. I've documented the procedure I use on my webpage;
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/unix/configfiles.html

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Re: How to restore a text file from UFS??

2010-08-19 Thread Alexander Best
On Thu Aug 19 10, EforeZZ wrote:
 I edited my 50Kb /etc/rc.conf, loaded a driver and got a kernel panic!!
 After reboot my /etc/rc.conf is 0 bytes (after automatic background fsck).
 Which tool should I try now to restore any version of my rc.conf?..
 I think data should still be somewhere on the disk
 
 ;-(

i had a similar problem and this howto helped me very much [1].

cheers.
alex

[1] http://bluesmoon.livejournal.com/109782.html

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Re: well, i guess it's time to ask.....

2010-08-19 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:01:56PM -0700, Charlie Kester wrote:
 On Wed 18 Aug 2010 at 20:16:51 PDT Depo Catcher wrote:
 
 On 8/18/2010 8:10 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
 've hesitated.   on my 3.0gh thinkpad, streams fly
 flawlessly.  So if i buy one of the notebooks with a
 
 Stream what kind of movies?  Some video players (like VLC) have 
 hardware acceleration that will help a lot if your video card/driver 
 supports it.
 Things like Flash based movies might be kind of iffy though since 
 they can't take advantage of the video hardware [?].  Once you start 
 moving up to high def video you might have some problems, but know a 
 lot of Home Theater guys that use Atoms for media centers:
 http://hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=103
 
 My gfs Atom 330 plays videos in VLC fine and flash fine, but full 
 screen flash drops frames.  This is under WinXP.
 The new D510 CPU are faster in benchmarks; it has dual cores with
 hyperthreading.  
 
 But be aware that the Xorg intel driver in the current portstree does
 NOT support the graphics controller built into the D510 and other
 Pineview Atoms.  The vesa driver works, but doesn't take advantage of
 AGP or other graphics niftiness.
 
 I have one of these myself, and can confirm that downloaded videos play
 acceptably well, despite using vesa.  I can't speak to streaming video
 performance, however, since I don't use Flash and usually don't watch
 online videos.
 
 I've seen reviews of the D510 that say HD video performance is sub-par
 even on operating systems with drivers that fully support the graphics
 controller.
 
 If you wait a few months, the new D525 CPUs should be out in consumer
 computers - these are 1.8Ghz (instead of 1.6Ghz) and support DDR3
 (instead of DDR2).  That might help a bit.  Both are limited to 4 gigs.
 
 So, I would bet that 90% of the time it'll be enough if you have a 
 good video card with good drivers.  I'm not an expert on them though, I
 think they are neat though.
 
 There are Atom-based systems available with Nvidia graphics.  Gary might
 want to consider one of those, although it probably won't be as dirt
 cheap or as low-wattage as a Pineview system.  (I have no experience
 with them myself.)


jeez, and to think i was a =hardware= major.  hm.  is there a
website than can explain the pros/cons?

a friend is helping me move from 5 tower cases to two.  money is 
always a concern, but saving watts is more important.

gary

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Re: Why network doesn't get initialized on system startup?

2010-08-19 Thread Peter Harrison
Thursday, 19 August 2010 at  9:08:21 -0700, Yuri said:
 On 08/19/2010 03:10, Glen Barber wrote:
 Are you loading the ndis(4) kernel module at boot via loader.conf?

 
 Yes, all ndis-related drivers (ndis.ko, if_ndis.ko and actual ndis 
 driver converted from windows one) are loaded from loader.conf.
 When system comes up ndis0 is fully functional and I can initialize it 
 by hand fine. It just doesn't happen on startup.

I can't remember where I saw this, but when you're using ndis you need to use 
SYNCDHCP instead of DHCP in ifconfig/rc.conf. Works for me no problem with a 
broadcom chip using ndis.

Regards,



Peter Harrison.

 
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Re: well, i guess it's time to ask.....

2010-08-19 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:05:47PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:54:53AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  
  i am not planning on watching a movie that is on a DVD-RW but 
  via [say] kmplayer via video stream.  and rather than the std
  'movie-length' of 120 minutes, an hour or less streamed by PBS.
  
  with my 2.4ghz Dell loaded at its usual 0.25 - 0.4, and using
  kmplayer or vlc, the video is jerky or hangs for several seconds.
 
 A 2.4 GHz machine with a decent grahics card should have no problem with
 displaying full screen video, if you are using the XVideo extension. For
 mplayer try '-vo xv' on the mplayer command line, or put 'vo=xv' in
 ~/.mplayer/config. For VLC choose tools-preferences, and in the dialog window
 check Accelerated video output in the Video tab.
 
 It sounds more like a network issue. (you can confirm that if you can play
 files from a local disk without hiccups) Maybe increasing the buffering might
 help. 
 


i actually do have some discs that i BOUGHT.  they are by the late 
scholar, Joseph Campbell who taught literature at Sarah Lawrence or
wehatever and became a mythologist.  I think I have every one of
his books, most of his lectures, and the four dvd's of his 13-hour
broadcast.  they play flawlessly, so it it may be hanging on the
network side.  how can i increase the buffering? say using kmplayer
or vlc?   i've poked around here and there but do not see anyplace
to tune the buffering.  

meanwhile, i will try the 'accelerated video output' with vlc.

thanks!

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Re: well, i guess it's time to ask.....

2010-08-19 Thread Depo Catcher



There are Atom-based systems available with Nvidia graphics.  Gary might
want to consider one of those, although it probably won't be as dirt
cheap or as low-wattage as a Pineview system.  (I have no experience
with them myself.)


jeez, and to think i was a =hardware= major.  hm.  is there a
website than can explain the pros/cons?

a friend is helping me move from 5 tower cases to two.  money is
always a concern, but saving watts is more important.

gary



Money wise for Motherboard, memory and CPU the Atom or 775 (Core 2 Duo) 
will probably be cheapest.
Then i3 and most expensive is i5.  AMD also have options that would 
probably be cheaper, but I'm not familiar with their product line.
I would set your budget of $X and then compare the best system in each 
class you can get for that price.


Power wise; if it's idle, the Atom and i3/i5 should be about the same.  
With 775 (core 2 duo) probably drawing the most.  In fact, in some cases 
the i3/i5 might draw less power at idle:

http://www.servethehome.com/intel-core-i5-650-v-atom-n330-nvida-ion-review/

The other thing to concern is when it's under load, the Atom will be the 
clear winner here.  The i3/i5/c2d can and will draw a good amount under 
load.  Atom doesn't go up much under heavy load, the other systems can 
skyrocket in power usage when hit hard.


The other thing you have to concern is how many devices you'll have 
hooked up to this.  If you need an external video card it's going to be 
drawing more power... as with external NICs, sata, sound, etc
In general I would suggest picking up a board that has most of what you 
need and nothing of what you don't.  For example, I don't use sound on 
my home server, so I always buy a board without integrated sound.
Also the Atom, i3 and i5 all have integrated video in their CPUs.  That 
might save some power if you find one that supports that (and not an 
embedded integrated video)


Performance wise, i3/i5 is winner then 775 and last atom.

This thread has some links to some reviews: 
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1538918









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Mail and DNS setup

2010-08-19 Thread Depo Catcher


I have a local box that downloads all my mail (~8 accounts) via fetchmail.
It's processed by sendmail/procmail and sorted into Maildir folder.
From there I retrieved via courier-imap (ssl) in Thunderbird.

This has worked well, but since it's been running there have been quite 
a few security advisories in fetchmail, sendmail and procmail.
I'm not fond of any of their configs or syntax either, so won't mind 
trying some alternatives on my new server.


What other setup would work for my needs?  I really like courier-imap, 
so would like to stay with that or another imap ssl server.

For fetchmail, getmail looks like a good alternative.

What would be a good procmail replacement?  I've searched around, but 
couldn't find anything that provides the same functionality.

I have a lot of email so like to sort it into specific folders.

For sendmail, qmail looks like a good contender.  Any others that I 
might consider?  Generally it seems like a qmail is pretty solid?


getmail + qmail + procmail replacement + courier-imap = win?

Also anything special I need to do to uninstall or get rid of sendmail 
on my system?


While we're at it, any alternatives to bind?  We have a slow internet so 
like to cache things locally.

Other than local lookup and caching, nothing else is needed.


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Re: Mail and DNS setup

2010-08-19 Thread Rocky Borg

 On 8/19/2010 3:44 PM, Depo Catcher wrote:
While we're at it, any alternatives to bind?  We have a slow internet 
so like to cache things locally.

Other than local lookup and caching, nothing else is needed.


Unbound ( http://www.unbound.net/ ) just does validating, recursive, and 
caching DNS. If you ever end up needing an authoritative server you can 
pair it with NSD ( http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/nsd/ ). They are 
both from the same company.


There is also MaraDNS, it promotes itself as being very secure, small, 
and easy to configure ( http://www.maradns.org/ ).


I personally like MaraDNS, you can read the advocacy document which 
compares various DNS servers. http://www.maradns.org/advocacy.html

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Re: Mail and DNS setup

2010-08-19 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 05:44:46PM -0500, Depo Catcher wrote:
 
 I have a local box that downloads all my mail (~8 accounts) via fetchmail.
 It's processed by sendmail/procmail and sorted into Maildir folder.
  From there I retrieved via courier-imap (ssl) in Thunderbird.
 
 This has worked well, but since it's been running there have been quite 
 a few security advisories in fetchmail, sendmail and procmail.
 I'm not fond of any of their configs or syntax either, so won't mind 
 trying some alternatives on my new server.

If it ain't broken...

 What would be a good procmail replacement?  I've searched around, but 
 couldn't find anything that provides the same functionality.
 I have a lot of email so like to sort it into specific folders.

IMO the best replacement for procmail is procmail. :-)

 For sendmail, qmail looks like a good contender.  Any others that I 
 might consider?  Generally it seems like a qmail is pretty solid?

Postfix works well and is easy to configure.
 
 Also anything special I need to do to uninstall or get rid of sendmail 
 on my system?

Put the following in /etc/rc.conf;

sendmail_enable=NONE

To disable the building of sendmail next time you do a 'make buildworld', add
the following to /etc/src.conf;

WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=true

 While we're at it, any alternatives to bind?  We have a slow internet so 
 like to cache things locally.
 Other than local lookup and caching, nothing else is needed.

Here you go; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_DNS_server_software

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Re: Mail and DNS setup

2010-08-19 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:44:46 -0500
Depo Catcher depocatc...@gmail.com articulated:


 
 I have a local box that downloads all my mail (~8 accounts) via
 fetchmail. It's processed by sendmail/procmail and sorted into
 Maildir folder. From there I retrieved via courier-imap (ssl) in
 Thunderbird.
 
 This has worked well, but since it's been running there have been
 quite a few security advisories in fetchmail, sendmail and procmail.
 I'm not fond of any of their configs or syntax either, so won't mind 
 trying some alternatives on my new server.
 
 What other setup would work for my needs?  I really like
 courier-imap, so would like to stay with that or another imap ssl
 server. For fetchmail, getmail looks like a good alternative.
 
 What would be a good procmail replacement?  I've searched around, but 
 couldn't find anything that provides the same functionality.
 I have a lot of email so like to sort it into specific folders.
 
 For sendmail, qmail looks like a good contender.  Any others that I 
 might consider?  Generally it seems like a qmail is pretty solid?
 
 getmail + qmail + procmail replacement + courier-imap = win?
 
 Also anything special I need to do to uninstall or get rid of
 sendmail on my system?
 
 While we're at it, any alternatives to bind?  We have a slow internet
 so like to cache things locally.
 Other than local lookup and caching, nothing else is needed.

Personally, I like Postfix + Dovecot. I have always thought that
Fetchmail was a fairly easy application to configure.

Stay away from qmail. It is no longer supported. Postfix is far
superior and works nearly seamlessly with dovecot.

You need to place the following in your /etc/rc.conf file to shut down
sendmail:

sendmail_enable=NO
sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO
sendmail_outbound_enable=NO
sendmail_submit_enable=NO

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Re: Mail and DNS setup

2010-08-19 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:08:41 +0200
Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl articulated:

  Also anything special I need to do to uninstall or get rid of
  sendmail on my system?  
 
 Put the following in /etc/rc.conf;
 
 sendmail_enable=NONE

Are you sure about that? From:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-changingmta.html

quote
28.4.2 Disable sendmail

Warning: If you disable sendmail's outgoing mail service, it is
important that you replace it with an alternative mail delivery system.
If you choose not to, system functions such as periodic(8) will be
unable to deliver their results by e-mail as they would normally expect
to. Many parts of your system may expect to have a functional
sendmail-compatible system. If applications continue to use sendmail's
binaries to try to send e-mail after you have disabled them, mail could
go into an inactive sendmail queue, and never be delivered.

In order to completely disable sendmail, including the outgoing mail
service, you must use

sendmail_enable=NO
sendmail_submit_enable=NO
sendmail_outbound_enable=NO
sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO

in /etc/rc.conf.
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Re: Mail and DNS setup

2010-08-19 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 07:32:38PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:08:41 +0200
 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl articulated:
 
   Also anything special I need to do to uninstall or get rid of
   sendmail on my system?  
  
  Put the following in /etc/rc.conf;
  
  sendmail_enable=NONE
 
 Are you sure about that?

Yes. :-)

 From:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-changingmta.html
 In order to completely disable sendmail, including the outgoing mail
 service, you must use
 
 sendmail_enable=NO
 sendmail_submit_enable=NO
 sendmail_outbound_enable=NO
 sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO
 
 in /etc/rc.conf.
 /quote

From /etc/rc.d/sendmail:

case ${sendmail_enable} in
[Nn][Oo][Nn][Ee])
sendmail_enable=NO
sendmail_submit_enable=NO
sendmail_outbound_enable=NO
sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO
;;
esac

I guess the handbook needs updating.

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Re: Mail and DNS setup

2010-08-19 Thread RW
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:44:46 -0500
Depo Catcher depocatc...@gmail.com wrote:


 getmail + qmail + procmail replacement + courier-imap = win?

Why use an mta at all? getmail was specifically designed to avoid that.

You can just do something like:

getmail - procmail - whatever

getmail - dovecot-deliver+sieve plugin
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Re: Mail and DNS setup

2010-08-19 Thread Depo Catcher



On 8/19/2010 8:06 PM, RW wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:44:46 -0500
Depo Catcherdepocatc...@gmail.com  wrote:



getmail + qmail + procmail replacement + courier-imap = win?

Why use an mta at all? getmail was specifically designed to avoid that.

You can just do something like:

getmail -  procmail -  whatever

getmail -  dovecot-deliver+sieve plugin



Yea, I think your right.
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Re: Mail and DNS setup

2010-08-19 Thread David Brodbeck


On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Depo Catcher wrote:
While we're at it, any alternatives to bind?  We have a slow  
internet so like to cache things locally.

Other than local lookup and caching, nothing else is needed.


I like dnsmasq.  It's easy to set up and is specifically designed for  
doing caching and local lookup for NATed LANs.  It can optionally  
serve as a DHCP server as well, but doesn't have to.


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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-19 Thread Polytropon
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:15:13 -0400, Derek Schwartz derekschwart...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 I re-formated the drive and it still gives me the same error error {0-01}

You don't need to format anything. Just make sure all kinds
of partitions are removed. If they are not, you should be
able to use FreeBSD's sysinstall program (stage fdisk)
to remove all existing partitions (key d), then add one
for FreeBSD (key a); this will automatically set the
correct ID.

What stage of installation, or what program, does issue this
error message? Does it come from the BIOS, the FreeBSD loader,
or the kernel, or sysinstall?



 anyway I can force it to install?

Install with an empty disk. FreeBSD does not require any
kind of preparation for its installation by 3rd party means.



Please have a look at the handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/install-start.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/using-sysinstall.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/install-steps.html

Can you be specific about in WHAT STAGE of the process you are
getting the mentioned error message?



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Re: well, i guess it's time to ask.....

2010-08-19 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 05:24:39PM -0500, Depo Catcher wrote:
 
 Money wise for Motherboard, memory and CPU the Atom or 775 (Core 2 Duo) 
 will probably be cheapest.
 Then i3 and most expensive is i5.  AMD also have options that would 
 probably be cheaper, but I'm not familiar with their product line.
 I would set your budget of $X and then compare the best system in each 
 class you can get for that price.
 
 Power wise; if it's idle, the Atom and i3/i5 should be about the same.  
 With 775 (core 2 duo) probably drawing the most.  In fact, in some cases 
 the i3/i5 might draw less power at idle:
 http://www.servethehome.com/intel-core-i5-650-v-atom-n330-nvida-ion-review/


thanks for the url; i'll check it out when i'm using a GUI MUA.

it looks like i wanted too much out of my next laptop.  looks like
i'll need to wait a few more years to get what i really want:
1st) as a small-footprint computer to use for the speech impaired,
and 2nd) to let me hide [wherever] and stream NOVA or *whatever*
far from the noise and distraction.

i have had the first goal in mind for five years or so.  my hearing
is fine but my speech is impaired, so with kmouth, ksayit or ktts* and 
vi, then using the festival suite, i can type what i want to say
and have the computer speak my words clearly.  ---yes, it takes
some messing-with to have the voices sound good.

in recent months i ran my ideas past a second speech pathologist. she 
trotted out an off-the-shelf Windows device that has pre-programmed
sentences -or- use the touch-screen keyboard to spell out whatever. 
touching a last square lets the computer speak. 

the cost of this dos/win device is $9,000 to $12,000.  the box is
heavy, the screen is brightly lit.  my bias was against the touch 
touch screen.  there was a beep you could turn on if you needed to,
and giving my crummy typing, i did.

the feedback for my free idea was that most people are not computer
savvy and would need support.  so i gave up on going the medical
route and got in touch with the laptop for children.  i learned
that the number of people that my hodge-podge could help is well
into the millions.  that's the only reason i'm still at it.  my 
thinking is that people who can type even with one finger can make
use of the festival+kde software.  either exactly as-is or with
some trivial script(s).


 
 The other thing to concern is when it's under load, the Atom will be the 
 clear winner here.  The i3/i5/c2d can and will draw a good amount under 
 load.  Atom doesn't go up much under heavy load, the other systems can 
 skyrocket in power usage when hit hard.

sounds like the atom processor is the way to go.  --at least when
i'm out i would prefer to not have to hunt for a wall socket:)

 
 The other thing you have to concern is how many devices you'll have 
 hooked up to this.  If you need an external video card it's going to be 
 drawing more power... as with external NICs, sata, sound, etc
 In general I would suggest picking up a board that has most of what you 
 need and nothing of what you don't.  For example, I don't use sound on 
 my home server, so I always buy a board without integrated sound.
 Also the Atom, i3 and i5 all have integrated video in their CPUs.  That 
 might save some power if you find one that supports that (and not an 
 embedded integrated video)
 


i never thought about hooking anything to the kind of computer i'm
thinking of.  this is where less is more.   they had one of these
10 notebooks at costco last spring but it was locked down by cable
and i had to get up from my wheelchair to check it out.  the keys
had a nice feel--maybe 2 to 4mm before the key hit bottom.  the
sound was off so i couldn't get an idea if the speakers would be
loud enough to be heard if i went shopping and had a question for
someone.  

volume was =not= an issue for the windows speech device!  i think
that could have been upped to hear from 50 meters.  --i may have to
just shut up and pony up the $Whatever before going much further.

meanwhile, thanks again for your insights and url's.  before school
starts and  the day swings back into starting during the middle of
the night.  ---can you spell GAK---, in other words, while i still 
have time and energy, maybe the best plan is just Do-It.


 Performance wise, i3/i5 is winner then 775 and last atom.
 
 This thread has some links to some reviews: 
 http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1538918
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-19 Thread Polytropon
//* I've re-included the list, hope that's okay.

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:02:25 -0400, Derek Schwartz derekschwart...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 as soon as a I put the cd in the computer for the first time.

Please try to avoid top-posting, as it counts as bad style on
this maining list; thank you.

If the message

error {0-01}

is displayed as soon as the PC tries to boot from the FreeBSD
CD, this may indicate two reasons: The first reason is a problem
of the PC itself (e. g. BIOS, defective drive) which I will keep
in background for now, as I assume that your PC and CD drive are
okay. Second reson is a defective CD, either by media, or by logic.
Have you made sure that the CD is bootable, e. g. checked with
a second PC or laptop (just booting)? Did you correctly record
the ISO file to the CD?

Again, make sure you did as explained in the handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/install-diff-media.html

For example, can you mount the CD on a different system, and does
it show the obvious files and structures? Does a different system
boot from this CD?





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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-19 Thread Mubeesh ali
Hi ,

not sure.This sounds like my issue as well ? After install of bsd on a
laptop with ubuntu ;it does not boot and gets stuck in bios splash . I had
emailed on this earlier.

thanks,
Mubeesh

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 //* I've re-included the list, hope that's okay.

 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:02:25 -0400, Derek Schwartz 
 derekschwart...@gmail.com wrote:
  as soon as a I put the cd in the computer for the first time.

 Please try to avoid top-posting, as it counts as bad style on
 this maining list; thank you.

 If the message

error {0-01}

 is displayed as soon as the PC tries to boot from the FreeBSD
 CD, this may indicate two reasons: The first reason is a problem
 of the PC itself (e. g. BIOS, defective drive) which I will keep
 in background for now, as I assume that your PC and CD drive are
 okay. Second reson is a defective CD, either by media, or by logic.
 Have you made sure that the CD is bootable, e. g. checked with
 a second PC or laptop (just booting)? Did you correctly record
 the ISO file to the CD?

 Again, make sure you did as explained in the handbook:

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/install-diff-media.html

 For example, can you mount the CD on a different system, and does
 it show the obvious files and structures? Does a different system
 boot from this CD?





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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-19 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:58:44 -0400, Derek Schwartz derekschwart...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 hmmm... I've tried the full install... maybe I'll try the boot only
 CD...

Basically, that shouldn't make any difference. I usually use the
full install (1 CD) when building a system from scratch intendedly.
Everything that is not on this CD, I install per FTP right from
the beginning.

But the error message seems to indicate a generic booting problem.
You can also try to use the memstick installation variant if your
system can boot from USB. In this case, you can eliminate CD or
DVD booting problems.



 (hate to sound like an idiot) but how do I connect to the FTP
 site?

That's quite easy, as soon as you're in the sysinstall program:
Choose FTP as source, select a mirror near you, and if not done
yet, your network connection will automatically be initialized,
usually by DHCP, which is a common setting. The sysinstall program
does all that for you.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/install-diff-media.html
See 2.13.6 here

And of course:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/install-media.html
See box FTP Installation Modes



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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-19 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:35:42 +0530, Mubeesh ali mubeeshal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi ,
 
 not sure.This sounds like my issue as well ? After install of bsd on a
 laptop with ubuntu ;it does not boot and gets stuck in bios splash . I had
 emailed on this earlier.

Yes, the verbosity of the error message

error {0-01}

makes me believe that this is already in a very early stage. Maybe
some forgotten remains of a Linux boot loader? In this case, trying
to boot from USB (or maybe floppy?) could help hard-wiping at least
the beginning of the disk, using dd.



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Re: How to restore a text file from UFS??

2010-08-19 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:07:51 +0300, EforeZZ efor...@gmail.com wrote:
 I edited my 50Kb /etc/rc.conf, loaded a driver and got a kernel panic!!
 After reboot my /etc/rc.conf is 0 bytes (after automatic background fsck).

I don't trust background fsck. Better wait 30 minutes for system to
come up cleanly, instead of racing at full spead into data loss...

You have already gotten good advices in how to recover data: /lost+found
in best case, TSK in worst case. In my recovery career, I made
good experiences with The Sleuth Kit. If you have installed it, have
a look at /usr/local/share/doc/sleuthkit/ref_fs.txt which gives some
insight on how to recover lost files; it is very interesting and
helpful.



 Which tool should I try now to restore any version of my rc.conf?..

Personally, I use cvs (comes with base system) to keep track of
changes in my config files. In case I accidentally delete a file,
I can simply check it out of the repository, in its current version
as well as in previous versions. CVS is similar to RCS.

I also make a copy of current files of /etc in root's home directory,
which is /root (usually on /).



 I think data should still be somewhere on the disk

As long as it hasn't been overwritten, it will be there, and usually
will be accessible by simple or complicated means.



If everything fails, maybe you can use a rc.conf of another system
of yours to re-create the original file's contents? Or use the
defaults at /etc/defaults/rc.conf as a template.


-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: How to restore a text file from UFS??

2010-08-19 Thread EforeZZ

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