Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 15:54:46 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: What does KDE or GNOME buy you anyway? Besides overhead. Bloat. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 15:54:46 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: What does KDE or GNOME buy you anyway? Besides overhead. I don't expect to be able to convince you, but a lot of people find desktop environments easier to use than a whole load of terminals. For example I sometimes prefer to use kdiff3 instead of plain svn diff and KDE makes that simple. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Anybody know apt-get ?
I need to get sources for the Linux version of certain programs that reside in a package called bsdutils. I have built and installed the apt-get program and now I'm just trying to use it, and things are going very badly indeed. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong here? The errors I am getting are shown below, and here are the current contents of my /usr/local/etc/apt/sources.list file: --- # See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs # CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted contrib non-free --- Here's what happens when I try to fetch the sources: % apt-get source bsdutils Reading package lists... 0%Reading package lists... 100%Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... Done W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/restricted Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_restricted_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/contrib Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_contrib_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/non-free Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_non-free_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Could not open file /var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:43:12 +0100 Polytropon free...@edvax.de articulated: On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 15:54:46 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: What does KDE or GNOME buy you anyway? Besides overhead. Bloat. :-) Bloat can easily be defined as something one user does not need/require. Essential can conversely be defined as something a user needs/desires. In other works, your bloat can easily be another user's requirements. If you are happy wiping your ass with your bare hand, then fine. Many of use prefer to use toilet paper which perhaps you might define as toiletry bloat. To answer the question, What does KDE or GNOME buy you anyway?, the answer is nothing. They have never even brought me a cup of coffee. Now, if the user were to inquire as to what these two competing applications have to offer, I might suggest that he/she start by visiting the applications respective web sites for further details. -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid. John Wayne signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 05:51:42 -0500, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:43:12 +0100 Polytropon free...@edvax.de articulated: On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 15:54:46 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: What does KDE or GNOME buy you anyway? Besides overhead. Bloat. :-) I was just kidding, but maybe you want a serious discussion about terminology, well, no problem. :-) Bloat can easily be defined as something one user does not need/require. As my understanding, bloat refers to the tradition, mainly driven by rapid application development, to stack tons of dependencies and abstraction layers in order to re-implement existing functionality in programs that ugraded some of their main libraries. This usually goes along with a reduction of accessibility or ease of use. Furthermore, resource requirements increase, and overall usage speed goes down. Often this is caused by stuff that nobody needs, because it is totally UNUSABLE. This is bloat. Essential can conversely be defined as something a user needs/desires. Agreed. In other works, your bloat can easily be another user's requirements. At least I'm willing to admit that it *might* be that there are users who require software that justifies buying a new computer twice a year to keep them doing the same things. In conclusion, it might also be possible that some users enjoy waiting times. If you are happy wiping your ass with your bare hand, then fine. Many of use prefer to use toilet paper which perhaps you might define as toiletry bloat. Don't they own a toilet brush? :-) Okay, I'm getting serious again: The basic idea is having certain requirements. Those requirements emerge from personal opinions, experiences, and needs, and also from a growing amount of expectations. That whatever fits those requirements is the ideal solution. In one case, this can be KDE, in another case, this is Windowmaker, and in a third case, this is SSH. There is no way of saying one KDE fits all or similar. To answer the question, What does KDE or GNOME buy you anyway?, the answer is nothing. They have never even brought me a cup of coffee. You need to install Kaffeine. :-) Now, if the user were to inquire as to what these two competing applications have to offer, I might suggest that he/she start by visiting the applications respective web sites for further details. Even more imporant, it's worth TRYING them. In use - and see how well they work. For example, I've been using KDE and Gnome in the past, and even try them from time to time to see how they did develop and if those requirements *I* have are already met. There are also many alternatives in the GUI sector, and even split mode is possible, e. g. use Blackbox as window manager, but use some of the KDE and Gnome programs side by side. THIS IS THE STRENGTH OF CHOICE. Especially novice users do not want choice. They primarily want something preinstalled and preconfigured. This is okay. The PC-BSD system fits this requirement well. Still, you have to make sure that certain requirement OF THE SOFTWARE are met, e. g. recent hardware that is supported (not too old, not too new). If hardware dictates what you can use (not just install and run, but ACTUALLY use), then KDE and Gnome are often a total no-go. Bloat, to come back to my initial statement, is the main cause of no-go. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
How to disable syncookies syncache
Hi, I spent all day yesterday trying to get my FreeBSD box (8.1-RELEASE, amd64) to talk to a Qlogic 4010 iSCSI card. The problem is that when the Qlogic card tries to make a connection, FreeBSD resets it (SYN, SYN|ACK, ACK, RST). If I turn on net.inet.tcp.log_in_vain, I can see a message similar to TCP: [172.16.25.2]:30557 to [172.16.25.1]:3260 tcpflags 0x10ACK; syncache_expand: TSECR 0 != TS 267223, segment rejected for each connection attempt. I've tried fiddling around with the net.inet.tcp.syn* sysctls, but all I've managed to to is change the message to TCP: [172.16.25.2]:29387 to [172.16.25.1]:3260 tcpflags 0x10ACK; syncache_expand: Segment failed SYNCOOKIE authentication, segment rejected (probably spoofed) (this was with net.inet.tcp.syncookies_only=1, I believe) --- the connection still gets reset, as before. The only solution I've found so far is to comment out the bit of code in sys/netinet/tcp_syncache.c that checks if TSECR == TS, but needless to say, this is horrible, and will probably create other problems. Now, I know what you're probably going to say --- the Qlogic card has a broken TCP implementation. While that may well be true, this is the card I have and I'm stuck with it, so there's not much I can about that. Any suggestions welcome. :-) Thanks! Alex -- --- Alexander Frolkin --- - a...@eldamar.org.uk - http://www.eldamar.org.uk/ - ``I can't believe it. You actually found a practical use for geometry!''-- Bart Simpson, ``Dead Putting Society'' ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Tushartushar...@gmail.com wrote: I want to use windows and freeBSD, both of them at the same time... please help... I use Win7 and FreeBSD in a dualboot configuration because of the need for USB connectivity for some of the Windows apps. I have Garmin mapsource for my GPS and iTunes for my iPod. /Leslie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
I guess the virtualbox supplied under puel license has full USB support. may be good to check out if you are not averse to a more restrictive licensing. On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Leslie Jensen les...@eskk.nu wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Tushartushar...@gmail.com wrote: I want to use windows and freeBSD, both of them at the same time... please help... I use Win7 and FreeBSD in a dualboot configuration because of the need for USB connectivity for some of the Windows apps. I have Garmin mapsource for my GPS and iTunes for my iPod. /Leslie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Best Regards, Mubeesh Ali.V.M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On 2010-11-07 12:44, Mubeesh ali wrote: I guess the virtualbox supplied under puel license has full USB support. may be good to check out if you are not averse to a more restrictive licensing. With the OSE version in the ports tree I've not considered the PUEL version. Can you provide links on how to install it? Thanks /Leslie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
How to go about installing drivers for Huawei EC1261 USB stick+modem on FreeBSD ?
Hi, This is the first time I am using ppp on FreeBSD : till now I had exclusively used ethernet. I just purchased a Huawei USB stick+modem and I need to configure PPP for it. Can somebody kindly give me a pointer to what steps I need to follow ? I don't know the list of drivers I need to install to get internet up. I don't care much about the stick's mass storage capabilities; it is the modem I am interested in enabling. Would be really nice if someone could post a sample ppp.conf. Thanks Manish Jain ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to disable syncookies syncache
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 335, Issue 14, Message: 2 On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 12:09:26 +0100 Alexander Frolkin a...@eldamar.org.uk wrote: Hi, I spent all day yesterday trying to get my FreeBSD box (8.1-RELEASE, amd64) to talk to a Qlogic 4010 iSCSI card. The problem is that when the Qlogic card tries to make a connection, FreeBSD resets it (SYN, SYN|ACK, ACK, RST). If I turn on net.inet.tcp.log_in_vain, I can see a message similar to TCP: [172.16.25.2]:30557 to [172.16.25.1]:3260 tcpflags 0x10ACK; syncache_expand: TSECR 0 != TS 267223, segment rejected for each connection attempt. I've tried fiddling around with the net.inet.tcp.syn* sysctls, but all I've managed to to is change the message to TCP: [172.16.25.2]:29387 to [172.16.25.1]:3260 tcpflags 0x10ACK; syncache_expand: Segment failed SYNCOOKIE authentication, segment rejected (probably spoofed) (this was with net.inet.tcp.syncookies_only=1, I believe) --- the connection still gets reset, as before. The only solution I've found so far is to comment out the bit of code in sys/netinet/tcp_syncache.c that checks if TSECR == TS, but needless to say, this is horrible, and will probably create other problems. Now, I know what you're probably going to say --- the Qlogic card has a broken TCP implementation. While that may well be true, this is the card I have and I'm stuck with it, so there's not much I can about that. Any suggestions welcome. :-) Only that if I had such an issue I'd head for n...@freebsd.org and post the above there, where the syncache cookie monsters tend to hang out :) cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD as a xen host
Hello, I am attempting to turn my two FreeBSD hosts into xen hosts that can run some vms. I am using this guide: http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen I get down to this step: cd xen-3.3-testing.hg ; make world make install and it fails to build: [r...@lbsd2:/tmp/xen-3.2-testing.hg]#make world make install Makefile, line 9: Need an operator Config.mk, line 12: Missing dependency operator Config.mk, line 14: Need an operator Config.mk, line 31: Could not find /config/.mk Config.mk, line 32: Could not find /config/.mk Config.mk, line 34: Missing dependency operator Config.mk, line 37: Need an operator Config.mk, line 53: Need an operator Error expanding embedded variable. Does anyone have any advice on how to get this to work? thanks! -- Here's my RSA Public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5A4873A9 Share and enjoy!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD as a xen host
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am attempting to turn my two FreeBSD hosts into xen hosts that can run some vms. I am using this guide: http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen I get down to this step: cd xen-3.3-testing.hg ; make world make install and it fails to build: [r...@lbsd2:/tmp/xen-3.2-testing.hg]#make world make install Makefile, line 9: Need an operator Config.mk, line 12: Missing dependency operator Config.mk, line 14: Need an operator Config.mk, line 31: Could not find /config/.mk Config.mk, line 32: Could not find /config/.mk Config.mk, line 34: Missing dependency operator Config.mk, line 37: Need an operator Config.mk, line 53: Need an operator Error expanding embedded variable. Just guessing: it looks like you need to use gmake instead of make. Does anyone have any advice on how to get this to work? thanks! -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD as a xen host
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 07:54:01 -0500 Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com wrote: [r...@lbsd2:/tmp/xen-3.2-testing.hg]#make world make install Makefile, line 9: Need an operator Config.mk, line 12: Missing dependency operator Config.mk, line 14: Need an operator Config.mk, line 31: Could not find /config/.mk Config.mk, line 32: Could not find /config/.mk Config.mk, line 34: Missing dependency operator Config.mk, line 37: Need an operator Config.mk, line 53: Need an operator Error expanding embedded variable. Does anyone have any advice on how to get this to work? Looks like you might need to use GNU make (gmake) instead of make? -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody know apt-get ?
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette r...@tristatelogic.comwrote: I need to get sources for the Linux version of certain programs that reside in a package called bsdutils. I have built and installed the apt-get program and now I'm just trying to use it, and things are going very badly indeed. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong here? The errors I am getting are shown below, and here are the current contents of my /usr/local/etc/apt/sources.list file: --- # See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs # CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted contrib non-free --- Here's what happens when I try to fetch the sources: % apt-get source bsdutils Reading package lists... 0%Reading package lists... 100%Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... Done W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.commaverick/main Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.commaverick/restricted Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_restricted_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.commaverick/contrib Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_contrib_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.commaverick/non-free Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_non-free_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Could not open file /var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory) I am going to take a stab in the dark here and suggest that some sort of db needs to be built for apt ... clues in the part /var/db.. (man apt-get?) Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody know apt-get ?
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 08:52:00 -0500 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: I am going to take a stab in the dark here and suggest that some sort of db needs to be built for apt ... clues in the part /var/db.. (man apt-get?) apt-get update -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Certification
Dear Lady,Sir I am very eager to get a certification for the FreeBSD but I do not know how? I am in Malaysia. Is there any branch in Malaysia? Is there any material for learning FreeBSD by myself?If yes, how can I get them? Many thanks. -- *---* *Mohammad Reza Abbasy* UTM University *Mobile* : +60176731832 *Email * : mr.abb...@gmail.com ramohamm...@live.utm.my Are you lost? I am your map. GOD -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 'Broadcom Wireless b/g (BCM4315/BCM22062000)'
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: It is faster/easier to fix NDISulator than to port ndiswrapper to FreeBSD. No doubt it would be faster and easier to fix NDISulator then to port ndiswrapper. This at least answers my question as to weather ndiswrapper actually works/exists in FreeBSD64. So am I basically screwed here for wireless till it is fixed (I'm no programmer so it's out of my field of expertise) So there is no hope for me to get wireless working w/ this card and FreeBSD64? Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to go about installing drivers for Huawei EC1261 USB stick+modem on FreeBSD ?
El día Sunday, November 07, 2010 a las 05:31:29PM +0530, Manish Jain escribió: Hi, This is the first time I am using ppp on FreeBSD : till now I had exclusively used ethernet. I just purchased a Huawei USB stick+modem and I need to configure PPP for it. Can somebody kindly give me a pointer to what steps I need to follow ? I don't know the list of drivers I need to install to get internet up. I don't care much about the stick's mass storage capabilities; it is the modem I am interested in enabling. Would be really nice if someone could post a sample ppp.conf. Thanks Manish Jain kldload 'ubsa' and see if it supports this Huawei card. If so, you may follow more or less the chap. 6 of my paper http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC-8CURRENT.txt HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
re: restart virtualbox
yanxinyoou: i intall virturl box like this: # cd /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox # make install clean # cd /boot /modules/*however i forgot do this commander # ls vbox* /*i also forgot vboxdrv.ko vboxnetadp.ko vboxnetflt.ko # echo 'vboxdrv_load=yes' /boot/loader.conf # echo 'ng_ether_load=yes' /boot/loader.conf # echo 'ng_ether_load=yes' /boot/loader.conf # cat /boot/loader.conf vboxdrv_load=yes vboxnetflt_load=yes ng_ether_load=yes The man page implies that YES should be upper case. after i restart bsd auto restart ! i think it caused by i made a mistake on loader.conf but i don't know how to do now i can't get in the system to change the /boot/loader.conf Try Interrupting the loader and unloading the kernel modules before continuing the boot. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html You'll also probably want to boot single user until you resolve the issue. Failing that boot from a recovery CD, mount the / filesystem and edit.___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 'Broadcom Wireless b/g (BCM4315/BCM22062000)'
On 11/7/10, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: It is faster/easier to fix NDISulator than to port ndiswrapper to FreeBSD. No doubt it would be faster and easier to fix NDISulator then to port ndiswrapper. This at least answers my question as to weather ndiswrapper actually works/exists in FreeBSD64. So am I basically screwed here for wireless till it is fixed (I'm no programmer so it's out of my field of expertise) So there is no hope for me to get wireless working w/ this card and FreeBSD64? There is hope. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD as a xen host
Guys, Thanks gmake has gotten me much farther than make has! :) However the install is still failing: gmake libxenctrl.a libxenctrl.so libxenctrl.so.3.2 libxenctrl.so.3.2.0 libxenguest.a libxenguest.so libxenguest.so.3.2 libxenguest.so.3.2.0 getconf: no such configuration parameter `LFS_CFLAGS' gmake[4]: Entering directory `/tmp/xen-3.2-testing.hg/tools/libxc' gcc -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -m32 -march=i686 -DNDEBUG -fno-strict-aliasing -std=gnu99 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused-value -Wdeclaration-after-statement -D__XEN_TOOLS__ -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -mno-tls-direct-seg-refs -Werror -Wmissing-prototypes -I. -I../xenstore -Wp,-MD,.xc_core.o.d -c -o xc_core.o xc_core.c In file included from xg_private.h:16, from xc_core.c:52: xc_private.h:18:29: error: xen/sys/privcmd.h: No such file or directory In file included from xg_private.h:16, from xc_core.c:52: xc_private.h:86: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'privcmd_hypercall_t' xc_private.h: In function 'do_xen_version': xc_private.h:90: error: 'privcmd_hypercall_t' undeclared (first use in this function) xc_private.h:90: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once xc_private.h:90: error: for each function it appears in.) xc_private.h:90: error: expected ';' before 'hypercall' xc_private.h:92: error: 'hypercall' undeclared (first use in this function) xc_private.h:96: error: too many arguments to function 'do_xen_hypercall' xc_private.h: In function 'do_domctl': xc_private.h:102: error: 'privcmd_hypercall_t' undeclared (first use in this function) xc_private.h:102: error: expected ';' before 'hypercall' xc_private.h:106: error: 'hypercall' undeclared (first use in this function) xc_private.h:115: error: too many arguments to function 'do_xen_hypercall' xc_private.h: In function 'do_sysctl': xc_private.h:131: error: 'privcmd_hypercall_t' undeclared (first use in this function) xc_private.h:131: error: expected ';' before 'hypercall' xc_private.h:135: error: 'hypercall' undeclared (first use in this function) xc_private.h:144: error: too many arguments to function 'do_xen_hypercall' xc_private.h: At top level: xc_private.h:158: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'privcmd_mmap_entry_t' gmake[4]: *** [xc_core.o] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/tmp/xen-3.2-testing.hg/tools/libxc' gmake[3]: *** [build] Error 2 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/tmp/xen-3.2-testing.hg/tools/libxc' gmake[2]: *** [install] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/xen-3.2-testing.hg/tools' gmake[1]: *** [install-tools] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/xen-3.2-testing.hg' gmake: *** [world] Error 2 I was wondering if you might have any further suggestions that might get this working. regards On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 07:54:01 -0500 Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com wrote: [r...@lbsd2:/tmp/xen-3.2-testing.hg]#make world make install Makefile, line 9: Need an operator Config.mk, line 12: Missing dependency operator Config.mk, line 14: Need an operator Config.mk, line 31: Could not find /config/.mk Config.mk, line 32: Could not find /config/.mk Config.mk, line 34: Missing dependency operator Config.mk, line 37: Need an operator Config.mk, line 53: Need an operator Error expanding embedded variable. Does anyone have any advice on how to get this to work? Looks like you might need to use GNU make (gmake) instead of make? -- Bruce Cran -- Here's my RSA Public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5A4873A9 Share and enjoy!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody know apt-get ?
In article 24360.1289127...@tristatelogic.com you write: I need to get sources for the Linux version of certain programs that reside in a package called bsdutils. So get them, already. No need to screw around with Linux binary installers, particularly not on the FreeBSD list: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/bsdutils R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD as a xen host
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am attempting to turn my two FreeBSD hosts into xen hosts that can run some vms. I am using this guide: http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen I get down to this step: cd xen-3.3-testing.hg ; make world make install and it fails to build: You may wish to read that page again. Dom0 support doesn't exist in FreeBSD, and paravirt domU is sketchy at best. Your virtualization options are VirtualBox or FreeBSD jails. There's another container based method that's experimental somewhere too. Changing your root shell is asking for trouble. There's a FAQ on it, and hundreds of threads of misery. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/book.html#TOOR-ACCOUNT -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 'Broadcom Wireless b/g (BCM4315/BCM22062000)'
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Paul B Mahol one...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/7/10, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: It is faster/easier to fix NDISulator than to port ndiswrapper to FreeBSD. No doubt it would be faster and easier to fix NDISulator then to port ndiswrapper. This at least answers my question as to weather ndiswrapper actually works/exists in FreeBSD64. So am I basically screwed here for wireless till it is fixed (I'm no programmer so it's out of my field of expertise) So there is no hope for me to get wireless working w/ this card and FreeBSD64? There is hope. Lead the way brother! Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installed memory today, questions immediately
To: FreeBSD Mailing List freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 19:13:53 -0700 From: justin v v...@yeaguy.com Subject: Installed memory today, questions immediately I installed 4GB or memory today. I rebooted and see this, the first line after the splash menu thing: 983040K of memory above 4GB ignored dmesg shows avail mem amount and I am concerned as well: real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 3139940352 (2994 MB) is a stick bad perhaps? Looking at this a little more carefully, the memory itself is fine The problem is _where_ it is being mapped into the address-space at. The first line is the give-awy above 4GB ignored. At this point I'm *guessing*, but it looks like 'main memory' is gettnig mapped into the address-space in 1gb chunks and there is something (probably video memory) occuping space up to 0x?3800maybe a 128mb video card mapped in at a base 768mb If there is a way to relocate where the (presumed video) memory is mapped, say, down to a bae of 128mb, you could potentialy pick up 640 megs of usable memory. giving 3-3/4 gig less a bit, instead of barely 3 gigs. It's worth checking the video board manual and/or 'configuration' utility for a tweak. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody know apt-get ?
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:58 AM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: In article 24360.1289127...@tristatelogic.com you write: I need to get sources for the Linux version of certain programs that reside in a package called bsdutils. So get them, already. No need to screw around with Linux binary installers, particularly not on the FreeBSD list: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/bsdutils Of course you're correct for what the OP is doing but actually in way this a kind of a cool idea. If you could modify the apt-get installer to know FreeBSD's linux compat layout and brand the binaries appropriately you would have a fabously easy method of installing linux bins although I guess you'd have better luck doing it yum rather than apt-get. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD as a xen host
Adam, Thanks for clarifying. And my root shell is csh. I am merely executing bash so I have the convenience of command line completion. best! On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am attempting to turn my two FreeBSD hosts into xen hosts that can run some vms. I am using this guide: http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen I get down to this step: cd xen-3.3-testing.hg ; make world make install and it fails to build: You may wish to read that page again. Dom0 support doesn't exist in FreeBSD, and paravirt domU is sketchy at best. Your virtualization options are VirtualBox or FreeBSD jails. There's another container based method that's experimental somewhere too. Changing your root shell is asking for trouble. There's a FAQ on it, and hundreds of threads of misery. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/book.html#TOOR-ACCOUNT -- Adam Vande More -- Here's my RSA Public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5A4873A9 Share and enjoy!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD as a xen host
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sun Nov 7 10:17:51 2010 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 11:18:56 -0500 From: Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a xen host Guys, Thanks gmake has gotten me much farther than make has! :) However the install is still failing: gmake libxenctrl.a libxenctrl.so libxenctrl.so.3.2 libxenctrl.so.3.2.0 libxenguest.a libxenguest.so libxenguest.so.3.2 libxenguest.so.3.2.0 getconf: no such configuration parameter `LFS_CFLAGS' gmake[4]: Entering directory `/tmp/xen-3.2-testing.hg/tools/libxc' gcc -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -m32 -march=i686 -DNDEBUG -fno-strict-aliasing -std=gnu99 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused-value -Wdeclaration-after-statement -D__XEN_TOOLS__ -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -mno-tls-direct-seg-refs -Werror -Wmissing-prototypes -I. -I../xenstore -Wp,-MD,.xc_core.o.d -c -o xc_core.o xc_core.c In file included from xg_private.h:16, from xc_core.c:52: xc_private.h:18:29: error: xen/sys/privcmd.h: No such file or directory In file included from xg_private.h:16, from xc_core.c:52: xc_private.h:86: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'privcmd_hypercall_t' xc_private.h: In function 'do_xen_version': xc_private.h:90: error: 'privcmd_hypercall_t' undeclared (first use in this function) xc_private.h:90: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once xc_private.h:90: error: for each function it appears in.) xc_private.h:90: error: expected ';' before 'hypercall' xc_private.h:92: error: 'hypercall' undeclared (first use in this function) xc_private.h:96: error: too many arguments to function 'do_xen_hypercall' xc_private.h: In function 'do_domctl': xc_private.h:102: error: 'privcmd_hypercall_t' undeclared (first use in this function) xc_private.h:102: error: expected ';' before 'hypercall' xc_private.h:106: error: 'hypercall' undeclared (first use in this function) xc_private.h:115: error: too many arguments to function 'do_xen_hypercall' xc_private.h: In function 'do_sysctl': xc_private.h:131: error: 'privcmd_hypercall_t' undeclared (first use in this function) xc_private.h:131: error: expected ';' before 'hypercall' xc_private.h:135: error: 'hypercall' undeclared (first use in this function) xc_private.h:144: error: too many arguments to function 'do_xen_hypercall' xc_private.h: At top level: xc_private.h:158: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'privcmd_mmap_entry_t' gmake[4]: *** [xc_core.o] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/tmp/xen-3.2-testing.hg/tools/libxc' gmake[3]: *** [build] Error 2 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/tmp/xen-3.2-testing.hg/tools/libxc' gmake[2]: *** [install] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/xen-3.2-testing.hg/tools' gmake[1]: *** [install-tools] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/xen-3.2-testing.hg' gmake: *** [world] Error 2 I was wondering if you might have any further suggestions that might get this working. if you -read- the output carefully, you discover that it is complaining abouot not being able to find an include file. a file named: xen/sys/privcd.h You need to figure out _where_ that file is on your system, and arrange to include the parent directory in the 'include search path' when you compile that module. the cc '-I flag. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS License and Future
On 06/11/2010 16:10, Chad Perrin wrote: Will Oracle lawyers find some patent related to the creation of that software the company owns and use that to sue you if you fork the project to ensure the survival of your own development projects? It seems somewhat likely, somehow. Oracle couldn't sue for patent violations on software that they (or their predecessors) had released and that people were using as-is. That's legitimate use under license from the software's originators. Nor could they sue successfully over some completely novel implementation that avoided patented areas. An interesting question is: could they sue over use of patented feature 'foo' in a forked copy of the software, where the code implementing 'foo' was still identical to the original version and where any substantial novel work was on other, unpatented, areas? This flies in the face of the original intent of granting patents; that innovators should be able to claim the benefits of their own work in order that innovation be encouraged. I doubt that any free software project would have sufficient funds to pursue such a case through the courts. I take comfort from the example of OpenBSD and CARP vs. Cisco and HSRP. Open source projects have been here before, and survived by doing what open source projects do best: writing code. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: FreeBSD as a xen host
On 07/11/2010 16:39, Tim Dunphy wrote: Thanks for clarifying. And my root shell is csh. I am merely executing bash so I have the convenience of command line completion. tcsh(1) does command line completion etc. etc. at least as well as bash(1) and sometimes arguably better (IMHO). Try adding: set autocorrect set autoexpand set autolist set matchbeep = nomatch to your .tcshrc -- there are plenty more variables to tweak behaviour with documented in the manual. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
portupgrade fails to run or do anything
I'm trying to upgrade my ports and I can't get portupgrade to do anything. I type 'sudo portupgrade apache' (or any package) and all I get back is a command prompt. No error or any other message. portversion seems to work correctly, showing my out of date ports, etc. Running portupgrade with -F doesn't help at all. I've also noticed that tab-expansion isn't working like it used to on the port names, so that makes me wonder if the database is screwed up. I've tried running pkgdb and it just returns like portupgrade. Running portsdb to try and rebuild the index doesn't help. Any ideas? I'm perplexed and Google is no help. Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
Quoth Bruce Cran on Sunday, 07 November 2010: On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 15:54:46 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: What does KDE or GNOME buy you anyway? Besides overhead. I don't expect to be able to convince you, but a lot of people find desktop environments easier to use than a whole load of terminals. For example I sometimes prefer to use kdiff3 instead of plain svn diff and KDE makes that simple. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I'm not here to bash desktop environments, I seriously want to know you use them to improve productivity. I used to be a big believer in GUIs. Back in the early 90s, I experimented with creating my own completely visual development environment, with a high percentage of drag 'n' drop and doubleclick in place of command lines. Now I find that any time I reach for the mouse, I'm slowing myself down. It's more efficient to use the keyboard even to switch focused windows or to follow links in a browser (provided that the window manager and browser are equipped with usable shortcuts). I use a tiling wm (xmonad) to maximize visibility, real estate usage, and navigability. No overlapping windows unless I say so. That's my experience. How does yours differ, and how does KDE/GNOME help? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgp1fRxrSCZML.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ZFS License and Future
Quoth Randal L. Schwartz on Saturday, 06 November 2010: Chip == Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com writes: Chip The one in that list that worries me the most is VirtualBox -- that's a Chip truly useful solution that isn't easily replaced. But I read somewhere Chip that there was a movement gaining steam to break off from Oracle. When I interviewed the VirtualBox guys for FLOSS Weekly (http://twit.tv/floss130), they seemed pretty confident that Oracle was going to keep fairly hands off, in a way that was starkly contrasted with some of the other former-Sun project leaders I've spoken to. (Ugh, too early to fix the tortured english... I hope you get the point.) I hope it's more than wishful thinking on their part. I would trust Oracle to keep hands off for precisely as long as they do not perceive any reason to put hands on. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpuBaEBIvo3G.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: portupgrade fails to run or do anything
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Ron (Lists) rg.li...@rzweb.com wrote: I'm trying to upgrade my ports and I can't get portupgrade to do anything. I type 'sudo portupgrade apache' (or any package) and all I get back is a command prompt. No error or any other message. portversion seems to work correctly, showing my out of date ports, etc. Running portupgrade with -F doesn't help at all. I've also noticed that tab-expansion isn't working like it used to on the port names, so that makes me wonder if the database is screwed up. I've tried running pkgdb and it just returns like portupgrade. Running portsdb to try and rebuild the index doesn't help. Any ideas? I'm perplexed and Google is no help. Thanks Syntax is 'portupgrade www/apache' (/usr/ports is assumed) Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:41:06 -0800, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: I'm not here to bash desktop environments, I seriously want to know you use them to improve productivity. Yes, would be interesting to know. Not that I deny it - I just have no evidence from my experience and observations on how this could be achieved. I used to be a big believer in GUIs. I may admit that the more I'm using GUI based programs for everyday tasks regularly (e. g. MUA), I get more and more disappointed that it seems that I need to buy a new PC in order to keep the same average speed of operation. Now I find that any time I reach for the mouse, I'm slowing myself down. A TrackPoint (the little joystick-like pointing device located in the middle of the keyboard) seems to be a good repacement for a regular mouse, and in any case for fingerslime glidepads. It's more efficient to use the keyboard even to switch focused windows or to follow links in a browser (provided that the window manager and browser are equipped with usable shortcuts). Important point! But in reality you see keyboard support more and more left out for the GUI programs - allthough they COULD provide good keyboard support. WindowMaker (as a window manager) and Opera (as a web browser) are, in my experience, examples of how to combine good keyboard support with good mouse support. I use a tiling wm (xmonad) to maximize visibility, real estate usage, and navigability. No overlapping windows unless I say so. Tiling window managers, as I've often seen, seem to be the choice of the advanced / professional users. Sadly, their magic didn't open up to me yet. :-) That's my experience. How does yours differ, and how does KDE/GNOME help? Again, I may share a very individual opinion about KDE and Gnome. If you're coming from a Windows background, things seem to be logical and as expected in those environments. If you're from a UNIX / X background, things look overcomplicated, illogical, and somewhat strange (like using the edit buffer for copying and moving files, the inability to handle windows focus and foreground independently). So a person like myself would have to spend many time clicking around in KDE or Gnome in order to configure it into something halfway usable. KDE and Gnome represent (quite) closed ecosystems: There are programs for KDE, similar ones for Gnome, and they interact well with each other within their ecosystems. Mixed forms, a strength of generic UNIX and X applications, often becomes complicated. Even language issues (i18n) are typical symptoms of that closed- ness. Coming back to your initial statement: For users EXPECTING something to act in a specific way, KDE and Gnome really boost their productivity, as it doesn't force them to question or relearn things they take for granted. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade fails to run or do anything
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 12:57:03 -0500, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Ron (Lists) wrote: I'm trying to upgrade my ports and I can't get portupgrade to do anything. I type 'sudo portupgrade apache' (or any package) and all I get back is a command prompt. No error or any other message. portversion seems to work correctly, showing my out of date ports, etc. Running portupgrade with -F doesn't help at all. I've also noticed that tab-expansion isn't working like it used to on the port names, so that makes me wonder if the database is screwed up. I've tried running pkgdb and it just returns like portupgrade. Running portsdb to try and rebuild the index doesn't help. Any ideas? I'm perplexed and Google is no help. Thanks Syntax is 'portupgrade www/apache' (/usr/ports is assumed) 'portupgrade apache' has always worked before and adding the www/ in front does not fix the problem. Still the same results, e.g. nothing. :-) Ron ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade fails to run or do anything
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 09:21:22 -0800, Ron (Lists) rg.li...@rzweb.com wrote: I'm trying to upgrade my ports and I can't get portupgrade to do anything. I type 'sudo portupgrade apache' (or any package) and all I get back is a command prompt. No error or any other message. portversion seems to work correctly, showing my out of date ports, etc. You need to be in /usr/ports and then issue the port name together with the category; in your case: % cd /usr/ports % sudo portupgrade www/apache Running portupgrade with -F doesn't help at all. I've also noticed that tab-expansion isn't working like it used to on the port names, so that makes me wonder if the database is screwed up. The expansion is handled by the shell, and based on the content of directories accessed. If you follow the example above, autocomplete should work fine. I've tried running pkgdb and it just returns like portupgrade. That should not be; did you run this? # pkgdb -aF This is the most common call for that program, issued as root (or via su or sudo or super). Running portsdb to try and rebuild the index doesn't help. See from the manpage: Note that INDEX file is updated every few hours on official site, it is recommended that you run ``portsdb -Fu'' after every CVSup of the ports tree in order to keep them always up-to-date and in sync with the ports tree. Any ideas? I'm perplexed and Google is no help. I can suggest reading the manpages of the programs in question before consulting google. One of FreeBSD's strengths is its EXCELLENT documentation. Know about that fact, and it will help you in many situations. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade fails to run or do anything
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:08:23 +0100, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 09:21:22 -0800, Ron (Lists) rg.li...@rzweb.com wrote: I'm trying to upgrade my ports and I can't get portupgrade to do anything. I type 'sudo portupgrade apache' (or any package) and all I get back is a command prompt. No error or any other message. portversion seems to work correctly, showing my out of date ports, etc. You need to be in /usr/ports and then issue the port name together with the category; in your case: % cd /usr/ports % sudo portupgrade www/apache Running portupgrade with -F doesn't help at all. I've also noticed that tab-expansion isn't working like it used to on the port names, so that makes me wonder if the database is screwed up. The expansion is handled by the shell, and based on the content of directories accessed. If you follow the example above, autocomplete should work fine. I've tried running pkgdb and it just returns like portupgrade. That should not be; did you run this? # pkgdb -aF This is the most common call for that program, issued as root (or via su or sudo or super). Running portsdb to try and rebuild the index doesn't help. See from the manpage: Note that INDEX file is updated every few hours on official site, it is recommended that you run ``portsdb -Fu'' after every CVSup of the ports tree in order to keep them always up-to-date and in sync with the ports tree. Any ideas? I'm perplexed and Google is no help. I can suggest reading the manpages of the programs in question before consulting google. One of FreeBSD's strengths is its EXCELLENT documentation. Know about that fact, and it will help you in many situations. :-) None of these suggestions help. I have never had to put www/ in front of the port name before. The tab expansion is handled by bash-completion as used to be smart enough to know the command I was typing and could auto-complete port names, but no longer, which is why I suspect that I have a screwed up database. Ron ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade fails to run or do anything
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:15, Ron (Lists) rg.li...@rzweb.com wrote: None of these suggestions help. I have never had to put www/ in front of the port name before. The tab expansion is handled by bash-completion as used to be smart enough to know the command I was typing and could auto-complete port names, but no longer, which is why I suspect that I have a screwed up database. Perhaps it is fallout from recent infrastructure changes? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2010-October/205680.html Portupgrade doesn't seem to have an active maintainer, so perhaps try portmaster. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS License and Future
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 06/11/2010 16:10, Chad Perrin wrote: Will Oracle lawyers find some patent related to the creation of that software the company owns and use that to sue you if you fork the project to ensure the survival of your own development projects? It seems somewhat likely, somehow. Oracle couldn't sue for patent violations on software that they (or their predecessors) had released and that people were using as-is. That's legitimate use under license from the software's originators. Nor could they sue successfully over some completely novel implementation that avoided patented areas. ROFL! Couldn't Sue? In the U.S.? SCO has been suing the world for years for using Linux when SCO distributed it under the GPL for years, years after their original lawsuits. All that's necessary to sue is willing lawyers and lots of cash. I have always thought that a major factor in Microsoft's sucess was initially Bill's Daddy's law firm, and later Microsoft's legal department ready to sue cometitors into oblivion. I doubt that any free software project would have sufficient funds to pursue such a case through the courts. On the other hand, representatives from the Samba team were very instrumental in EU rulings related to Microsoft. I don't remember the details offhand, but I'm sure it's in the groklaw archives and searchable. Bill -- INTERNET: b...@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 ...government has nothing to give to anybody that it doesn't first take from somebody else. In other workds, all its relief and subsidy schemes are merely ways of robbing Peter to support Paul -- Henry Hazlitt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portmaster question
Hello, According to man portmaster the -a option will Update all ports that need updating. Does this apply to only installed ports or to everything in /usr/ports? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster question
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 12:21:59 -0700, Fred f...@blakemfg.com wrote: Hello, According to man portmaster the -a option will Update all ports that need updating. Does this apply to only installed ports or to everything in /usr/ports? It applies to installed ports. A commonly used command to upgrade them is portupgrad -af. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 12:23:36 +0100 Polytropon free...@edvax.de articulated: To answer the question, What does KDE or GNOME buy you anyway?, the answer is nothing. They have never even brought me a cup of coffee. You need to install Kaffeine. :-) Touché -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ The administration I'll bring is a group of men and women who are focused on what's best for America --- honest men and women, decent men and women, women who will see service to our country as a great privilege and who will not stain the house. George W. Bush January 15, 2000 Spoken during the Republican debate in Des Moines, Iowa. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade fails to run or do anything
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 09:21:22AM -0800, Ron (Lists) wrote: I'm trying to upgrade my ports and I can't get portupgrade to do anything. I type 'sudo portupgrade apache' (or any package) and all I get back is a command prompt. No error or any other message. portversion seems to work correctly, showing my out of date ports, etc. Running portupgrade with -F doesn't help at all. I've also noticed that tab-expansion isn't working like it used to on the port names, so that makes me wonder if the database is screwed up. I've tried running pkgdb and it just returns like portupgrade. Running portsdb to try and rebuild the index doesn't help. Any ideas? I'm perplexed and Google is no help. Thanks Give portupgrade the -v arg to get some debugging information. E.g: # sudo portupgrade -v apache\* Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster question
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 20:31:11 +0100 Polytropon free...@edvax.de articulated: On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 12:21:59 -0700, Fred f...@blakemfg.com wrote: Hello, According to man portmaster the -a option will Update all ports that need updating. Does this apply to only installed ports or to everything in /usr/ports? It applies to installed ports. A commonly used command to upgrade them is portupgrad -af. ^^^ Using the 'f' flag can be expensive if there are a large number of ports installed and the machine in question is not relative fast. When using 'portupgrade', I commonly use the '-r' flag in conjunction with the previously discussed '-a' flag. While not as through as the -u -p flags with 'portmanger', it does accomplish its goal. -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ Kiss me twice. I'm schizophrenic. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Anybody know apt-get ?
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 02:51:52AM -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: I need to get sources for the Linux version of certain programs that reside in a package called bsdutils. I have built and installed the apt-get program and now I'm just trying to use it, and things are going very badly indeed. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong here? The errors I am getting are shown below, and here are the current contents of my /usr/local/etc/apt/sources.list file: I haven't used APT in a while, but I recall the existence of an apt-get-like tool specifically for dealing with source, called apt-src. You should be able to install it on your system and sift through its manpage at your leisure: apt-get install apt-src -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpgmezFusYU2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: portupgrade fails to run or do anything
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:32:05 -0800 Rob Farmer rfar...@predatorlabs.net articulated: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:15, Ron (Lists) rg.li...@rzweb.com wrote: None of these suggestions help. I have never had to put www/ in front of the port name before. The tab expansion is handled by bash-completion as used to be smart enough to know the command I was typing and could auto-complete port names, but no longer, which is why I suspect that I have a screwed up database. Perhaps it is fallout from recent infrastructure changes? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2010-October/205680.html Portupgrade doesn't seem to have an active maintainer, so perhaps try portmaster. Really! When did r...@freebsd.org drop the port? If he is not actively maintaining the port then perhaps he should inform the proper authority. -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ Anoint, v.: To grease a king or other great functionary already sufficiently slippery. Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody know apt-get ?
Ronald what EXACTLY are you trying to accomplish here? The bsdutils are a collection of commands from the 4.4BSD era that are now included in the util-linux package which is available from Kernel.org http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/ Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette r...@tristatelogic.comwrote: I need to get sources for the Linux version of certain programs that reside in a package called bsdutils. I have built and installed the apt-get program and now I'm just trying to use it, and things are going very badly indeed. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong here? The errors I am getting are shown below, and here are the current contents of my /usr/local/etc/apt/sources.list file: --- # See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs # CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted contrib non-free --- Here's what happens when I try to fetch the sources: % apt-get source bsdutils Reading package lists... 0%Reading package lists... 100%Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... Done W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.commaverick/main Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.commaverick/restricted Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_restricted_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.commaverick/contrib Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_contrib_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.commaverick/non-free Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_non-free_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Could not open file /var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody know apt-get ?
Oops ... the current release of util-linux being available here http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux-ng/ Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Ross Cameron ross.came...@linuxpro.co.zawrote: Ronald what EXACTLY are you trying to accomplish here? The bsdutils are a collection of commands from the 4.4BSD era that are now included in the util-linux package which is available from Kernel.org http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/ Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette r...@tristatelogic.com wrote: I need to get sources for the Linux version of certain programs that reside in a package called bsdutils. I have built and installed the apt-get program and now I'm just trying to use it, and things are going very badly indeed. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong here? The errors I am getting are shown below, and here are the current contents of my /usr/local/etc/apt/sources.list file: --- # See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs # CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted contrib non-free --- Here's what happens when I try to fetch the sources: % apt-get source bsdutils Reading package lists... 0%Reading package lists... 100%Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... 0%Building dependency tree... Done W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.commaverick/main Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.commaverick/restricted Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_restricted_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.commaverick/contrib Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_contrib_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.commaverick/non-free Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_non-free_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Could not open file /var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade fails to run or do anything
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:12, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: Really! When did r...@freebsd.org drop the port? If he is not actively maintaining the port then perhaps he should inform the proper authority. He is a mailing list. ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade/Makefile Revision 1.256 Tue Jul 21 13:12:15 2009 PDT (15 months, 2 weeks ago) by sem Log: - Drop maintainership to ruby@ Beyond this point virtually no development has happened. The sourceforge project hasn't been updated since around that time and there are open PRs over two years old. Unfortuantely, FreeBSD has a lot of these niche mailing lists that virtually nobody reads but have PRs auto-assigned to them, effectively acting as a black hole. freebsd-rc is one of the worst offenders - other than Doug Barton, there don't seem to be any developers involved there and it has a massive buildup of unreviewed patches. So I would say portupgrade is unmaintained and thus encourage people to move to portmaster. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }hey
i am trying to set up a private network for using freebsd (private
as in off-line)
i have a windows machine with on-line connection
i would like to get a hold of the 8.1 CURRENT 'distfiles' (complete
- at least with latest versions only of each port/file)
however, when making calculations for downloading the complete
distfiles directory via anonymous ftp it works out to be a 50 day
operation (a few hours each day)
of course there are many earlier version files that may not be
required - in some cases in multiples of tens - which adds up
is there a source that makes dvd images of the distfile directory
that i can get a hold of
if so , please give details - happy to pay a few bucks
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Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 06:58:45PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:41:06 -0800, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: I'm not here to bash desktop environments, I seriously want to know you use them to improve productivity. Yes, would be interesting to know. Not that I deny it - I just have no evidence from my experience and observations on how this could be achieved. I think that, in most cases, the people who use KDE and GNOME are just taking the trade-off opposite to the one I take. I choose a little up-front learning curve for massive efficiency and productivity enhancements down the road. The increased efficiency of a minimal, composable toolset driven by the keyboard can be a huge win in long-term productivity for one motivated to learn how to use it, as well as a major savings on system resources (and hardware costs, since upgrades do not need to happen as often, nor be as cutting-edge). Others choose some inefficiency in the long run to avoid having to learn anything new up front. The increased discoverability, at least for simple tasks, of a point-and-click interface tends to seem more intuitive and familiar to people just coming to a new system for the first time, makes task completion easier to figure out the first time (and the thirtieth, since point-and-click interfaces tend to require figuring out the same tasks over and over again). Now I find that any time I reach for the mouse, I'm slowing myself down. A TrackPoint (the little joystick-like pointing device located in the middle of the keyboard) seems to be a good repacement for a regular mouse, and in any case for fingerslime glidepads. I use a ThinkPad regularly. Sometimes, it's nice to have a separate mouse. Even when using the TrackPoint, though, I'm still much slower than when using a well-designed keyboard driven interface. It takes longer for me to swing my mouse pointer from the side of the screen to a given link on-screen, then left click it, than it does for me to type f37 in Firefox+Vimperator, fas in Chromium+Vimium, or fl37 in uzbl. Also of interest, Chromium loads the page on the other side of that link in about 75% of the time it takes Firefox to load it, and uzbl loads it in about 33% of the time it takes Chromium to load it. It's more efficient to use the keyboard even to switch focused windows or to follow links in a browser (provided that the window manager and browser are equipped with usable shortcuts). Important point! But in reality you see keyboard support more and more left out for the GUI programs - allthough they COULD provide good keyboard support. WindowMaker (as a window manager) and Opera (as a web browser) are, in my experience, examples of how to combine good keyboard support with good mouse support. Vimperator and Vimium do much better jobs of combining those capabilities in my experience (for Firefox and Chromium, respectively). While uzbl does not do as good a job of combining those approaches, it does a good enough job at the keyboard-driven stuff that it is a very rare case when using the TrackPoint would make more sense -- and, when it does make more sense, uzbl's mouse-driven interface support works fine. I used to use WindowMaker all the time. I switched to Sawfish when I disocovered that it required less configuration to fit my particular needs, though WindowMaker had been close enough that making the requisite configuration changes was not a huge burden. I switched to AHWM when I discovered it, because it required almost zero configuration to make it suit my needs pretty much exactly. I have experimented with a couple of other window managers since adopting AHWM, but nothing has quite served to entice me away. I use a tiling wm (xmonad) to maximize visibility, real estate usage, and navigability. No overlapping windows unless I say so. Tiling window managers, as I've often seen, seem to be the choice of the advanced / professional users. Sadly, their magic didn't open up to me yet. :-) If you're inclined toward minimalism, productivity enhancement, and efficiency, and do not mind editing configuration files by hand, but have not really clicked with tiling window managers, you might want to give AHWM a try. It's in FreeBSD ports. Coming back to your initial statement: For users EXPECTING something to act in a specific way, KDE and Gnome really boost their productivity, as it doesn't force them to question or relearn things they take for granted. That's a pretty good summary, minus some of the implications, of what I said at the beginning of this email. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgppCqFJOKC7f.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ZFS License and Future
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 05:17:19PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 06/11/2010 16:10, Chad Perrin wrote: Will Oracle lawyers find some patent related to the creation of that software the company owns and use that to sue you if you fork the project to ensure the survival of your own development projects? It seems somewhat likely, somehow. Oracle couldn't sue for patent violations on software that they (or their predecessors) had released and that people were using as-is. That's legitimate use under license from the software's originators. How long are you planning to use it as-is, without making any changes, if Oracle ceases support for an open source version? Nor could they sue successfully over some completely novel implementation that avoided patented areas. 1. That's kind of irrelevant to my point. 2. That is prone to being a lot of work to end up with something suboptimal -- unless you're talking about using something other than Oracle software, in which case you're just agreeing with me at this point. An interesting question is: could they sue over use of patented feature 'foo' in a forked copy of the software, where the code implementing 'foo' was still identical to the original version and where any substantial novel work was on other, unpatented, areas? This flies in the face of the original intent of granting patents; that innovators should be able to claim the benefits of their own work in order that innovation be encouraged. The original intent of granting patents: 1. has not been in evidence in the patent system for a century or so 2. has largely been proven bogus, to anyone willing to consider the evidence I doubt that any free software project would have sufficient funds to pursue such a case through the courts. This is the problem. I take comfort from the example of OpenBSD and CARP vs. Cisco and HSRP. Open source projects have been here before, and survived by doing what open source projects do best: writing code. Some have. Others have folded under the pressure. That latter case is why people worry about it -- and why they tend to prefer to use stuff that is not in danger of unpleasant lawsuits in the first place. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp7tFsgaezjM.pgp Description: PGP signature
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A few hrs each day for 50 days? What kind of internet connection do you have?
If you can't find other options I'll get you what you need for a few bucks,
just enough to cover postage and what not.
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i am trying to set up a private network for using freebsd (private
as in off-line)
i have a windows machine with on-line connection
i would like to get a hold of the 8.1 CURRENT 'distfiles' (complete
- at least with latest versions only of each port/file)
however, when making calculations for downloading the complete
distfiles directory via anonymous ftp it works out to be a 50 day
operation (a few hours each day)
of course there are many earlier version files that may not be
required - in some cases in multiples of tens - which adds up
is there a source that makes dvd images of the distfile directory
that i can get a hold of
if so , please give details - happy to pay a few bucks
...
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py-gtk install hangs
I've tried installing the py-gtk port a couple of times now with the same result each time: checking if C preprocessor likes IDL... yes checking if C preprocessor can read from stdin... yes checking how to ignore standard include path... At this point, it hangs indefinitely. If I kill it with Ctrl-C, I get this output: sed: confdefs.h: No such file or directory === Script configure failed unexpectedly. It also suggests I use gnomelogalyzer.sh to diagnose the problem, but before I bother I'd like to know if this is a known issue with an easy fix. Anyone? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpM5l78d9EJm.pgp Description: PGP signature
OK, now perl won't install...
Based on advice to switch to portmaster from portupgrade, I am now having a problem with perl. When I went to upgrade a perl package, it re-installed perl, but fail (and removed perl). I am getting this message: === perl-5.8.9_3 : Your apache does not support DSO modules. I have tried to configure and upgrade apache but get this message; /usr/local/sbin/apxs: not found /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.apache.mk, line 245: warning: /usr/local/sbin/apxs -q MPM_NAME returned non-zero status How do I upgrade apache (or is this something else going wrong)? Help! My system is really screwed up without perl running. Ron ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
/usr/local/sbin/apxs is missing.
Still trying to unscrew my perl installation. Perl and Apache both fail to install due to the missing /usr/local/sbin/apxs. I have no idea what failed package removed it, but now I can't install perl. Who installs this file? It appears to be an apache file, but I can't install apache because it's missing. I'm really dead in the water because so much the system requires perl and it was uninstalled by portmaster (for some reason I don't understand) and I can't install it due to the missing file. Ron ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
uzbl
Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 07 November 2010: snip Also of interest, Chromium loads the page on the other side of that link in about 75% of the time it takes Firefox to load it, and uzbl loads it in about 33% of the time it takes Chromium to load it. It's more efficient to use the keyboard even to switch focused windows or to follow links in a browser (provided that the window manager and browser are equipped with usable shortcuts). Important point! But in reality you see keyboard support more and more left out for the GUI programs - allthough they COULD provide good keyboard support. WindowMaker (as a window manager) and Opera (as a web browser) are, in my experience, examples of how to combine good keyboard support with good mouse support. Vimperator and Vimium do much better jobs of combining those capabilities in my experience (for Firefox and Chromium, respectively). While uzbl does not do as good a job of combining those approaches, it does a good enough job at the keyboard-driven stuff that it is a very rare case when using the TrackPoint would make more sense -- and, when it does make more sense, uzbl's mouse-driven interface support works fine. snap -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] How do you start uzbl? It installed fine for me, but I keep getting core dumps when I run it. There is no 'uzbl' anywhere in the path, so I tried 'uzbl-browser' and 'uzbl-tabbed'. For 'uzbl-browser' it brings up the initial screen OK, but typing 'fl' crashes it. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpLP47WdAMyZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 13:51:22 -0700 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I choose a little up-front learning curve for massive efficiency and productivity enhancements down the road. The increased efficiency of a minimal, composable toolset driven by the keyboard can be a huge win in long-term productivity for one motivated to learn how to use it, as well as a major savings on system resources (and hardware costs, since upgrades do not need to happen as often, nor be as cutting-edge). Others choose some inefficiency in the long run to avoid having to learn anything new up front. The increased discoverability, at least for simple tasks, of a point-and-click interface tends to seem more intuitive and familiar to people just coming to a new system for the first time, makes task completion easier to figure out the first time (and the thirtieth, since point-and-click interfaces tend to require figuring out the same tasks over and over again). With the command-line you also choose the inefficiency of having to read the man page every time you want to do something you're not familiar with. Well-designed UIs allow you to easily discover how to do it without resorting to the Help file - and since people tend to have good visual memories they can remember it better than a string of characters. A good example of this is Subversion tagging/branching: in Windows I can use the menu option TortoiseSVN - branch/tag... to create a branch and have it done in a minute. Using the command-line I'd have to spend time reading up on the commandline parameters to achieve the same thing, since it's something I only do about once a year or so. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /usr/local/sbin/apxs is missing.
Hi, Ron (Lists) wrote: Still trying to unscrew my perl installation. Perl and Apache both fail to install due to the missing /usr/local/sbin/apxs. I have no idea what failed package removed it, but now I can't install perl. Who installs this file? cd /pri/FreeBSD/releases/current/ports # or eg cd /usr/ports find . -type f -name pkg-plist | xargs grep sbin/apxs + There's useful progs here: cd /usr/sbin ; echo *pkg* pkg_add pkg_create pkg_delete pkg_info pkg_updating pkg_version with man command for those, + exploration in /var/db/pkg you'll be able to analyse solve it all. PS if you start having problems with libs too, try eg ldconfig -R It appears to be an apache file, but I can't install apache because it's missing. I'm really dead in the water because so much the system requires perl and it was uninstalled by portmaster (for some reason I don't understand) and I can't install it due to the missing file. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not HTML, quoted-printable base 64 spam formats. Avoid top posting, it cripples itemised cumulative responses. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
Quoth Bruce Cran on Sunday, 07 November 2010: On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 13:51:22 -0700 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I choose a little up-front learning curve for massive efficiency and productivity enhancements down the road. The increased efficiency of a minimal, composable toolset driven by the keyboard can be a huge win in long-term productivity for one motivated to learn how to use it, as well as a major savings on system resources (and hardware costs, since upgrades do not need to happen as often, nor be as cutting-edge). Others choose some inefficiency in the long run to avoid having to learn anything new up front. The increased discoverability, at least for simple tasks, of a point-and-click interface tends to seem more intuitive and familiar to people just coming to a new system for the first time, makes task completion easier to figure out the first time (and the thirtieth, since point-and-click interfaces tend to require figuring out the same tasks over and over again). With the command-line you also choose the inefficiency of having to read the man page every time you want to do something you're not familiar with. Well-designed UIs allow you to easily discover how to do it without resorting to the Help file - and since people tend to have good visual memories they can remember it better than a string of characters. A good example of this is Subversion tagging/branching: in Windows I can use the menu option TortoiseSVN - branch/tag... to create a branch and have it done in a minute. Using the command-line I'd have to spend time reading up on the commandline parameters to achieve the same thing, since it's something I only do about once a year or so. -- Bruce Cran Up to a point, yes. But as options become more complex, either the GUI must also become more complex or you reach the tipping point where the complexity warrants the use of language instead of gestures. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpsjl5Kwh2Uf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ZFS License and Future
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 05:17:19PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 06/11/2010 16:10, Chad Perrin wrote: Will Oracle lawyers find some patent related to the creation of that software the company owns and use that to sue you if you fork the project to ensure the survival of your own development projects? It seems somewhat likely, somehow. Oracle couldn't sue for patent violations on software that they (or their predecessors) had released and that people were using as-is. That's legitimate use under license from the software's originators. How long are you planning to use it as-is, without making any changes, if Oracle ceases support for an open source version? Nor could they sue successfully over some completely novel implementation that avoided patented areas. 1. That's kind of irrelevant to my point. 2. That is prone to being a lot of work to end up with something suboptimal -- unless you're talking about using something other than Oracle software, in which case you're just agreeing with me at this point. An interesting question is: could they sue over use of patented feature 'foo' in a forked copy of the software, where the code implementing 'foo' was still identical to the original version and where any substantial novel work was on other, unpatented, areas? This flies in the face of the original intent of granting patents; that innovators should be able to claim the benefits of their own work in order that innovation be encouraged. The original intent of granting patents: 1. has not been in evidence in the patent system for a century or so 2. has largely been proven bogus, to anyone willing to consider the evidence I doubt that any free software project would have sufficient funds to pursue such a case through the courts. This is the problem. I take comfort from the example of OpenBSD and CARP vs. Cisco and HSRP. Open source projects have been here before, and survived by doing what open source projects do best: writing code. Some have. Others have folded under the pressure. That latter case is why people worry about it -- and why they tend to prefer to use stuff that is not in danger of unpleasant lawsuits in the first place. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] There are documented cases where the big bad business reared it's ugly head (AOL/Time Warner) and unleashed it's guard dogs (lawyers)on the masses. Such case is GAIM (original intent was Gnome Aim I believe, a jab at AIM and a functional name for a port/fork). But when T.W. acquired AOL and GAIM all of the sudden was on there radar and the GAIM project faced a similar lawsuite, because of the name being to close to a closed-source equivalent. GAIM's solution as I am sure everyone is aware was to change there name frrom GAIM to Pidgin. This occurred w/ the 2.0 version of GAIM, which was subsequently renamed to Pidgin. In Pidgin's case tho, they contained no proprietary software as AOL/T.W wasn't concerned about the 'oscar' protocol. As long as people used the protocol, they didn't care how you got on. So basically if comes down to something like this. If OOo.3.2.1 stops there, what is already released remains unchanged, too many people have or can easily get a copy of the source as is. It is not in Oracles best interests to search for and destroy every person in the would who has a copy of it *BEFORE* it went Closed-Source. The danger comes in the name ... hence DocumentFoundation.Org. It is DF's hopes that Oracle will get wise and gift the name to the foundation and we can continue to have a function project w/ a wise name. Everyone knows what OpenOffice is, including my college professors, hell even my Girlfriend knows what it is and she isn't all that into computers LibreOffice (Libre is Latin for free) is a functional name as is (personally I don't like the name, but I hated StarOffice's name too!) and has potential. But DF faces an uphill battle in re-educating the world that LibreOffice is OpenOffice under a new name. So the legal end isn't all that hard to figure out. the OOo.3 devs have taken care of that setting up DF. It's just a matter of figuring out the logistics of the name. The same would apply to any other product that Oracle has acquired and is in danger of getting it's head chopped off for the benefit of it's owners pocket. Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to
Re: ZFS License and Future
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 17:45:07 -0500 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net articulated: LibreOffice (Libre is Latin for free) is a functional name as is (personally I don't like the name, but I hated StarOffice's name too!) and has potential. But DF faces an uphill battle in re-educating the world that LibreOffice is OpenOffice under a new name. I tend to disagree with your assessment there. OO has never really progressed passed being a poor copy of MS Office 97. Tieing the new nomenclature to the old product might prove counter productive. I know several users who would avoid it just on that basis alone. A new name with the appropriate PR might prove to be a boon for the product. I do agree that the new name is lacking though. Obviously, no real thought went into choosing a new product name. Unfortunate indeed. -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ If a can of Alpo costs 38 cents, would it cost $2.50 in Dog Dollars? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody know apt-get ?
In message 20101107140353.5...@unknown, you wrote: On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 08:52:00 -0500 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: I am going to take a stab in the dark here and suggest that some sort of db needs to be built for apt ... clues in the part /var/db.. (man apt-get?) apt-get update Well, um, not having anything really to lose, I su'd to root and tried the above command. The resulting output does not look encouraging: % apt-get update Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick Release.gpg [198B] Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick Release [39.8kB] Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick Release Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.169 80] Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/restricted Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.169 80] Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/contrib Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.169 80] Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/non-free Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.169 80] Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main Sources [1036kB] Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/restricted Sources [4217B] Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/contrib Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.169 80] Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/non-free Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.169 80] Fetched 1080kB in 7s (151kB/s) Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-freebsd-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.169 80] Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/restricted/binary-freebsd-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.169 80] Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/contrib/binary-freebsd-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.169 80] Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/non-free/binary-freebsd-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.169 80] Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/contrib/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.169 80] Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/non-free/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.169 80] Reading package lists... Done W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick Release: Couldn't access keyring: 'No such file or directory' W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/restricted Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_restricted_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/contrib Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_contrib_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/non-free Packages (/var/db/apt/state/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_non-free_binary-freebsd-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD as a xen host
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:28:06 -0600 Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: You may wish to read that page again. Dom0 support doesn't exist in FreeBSD, and paravirt domU is sketchy at best. The page says: The port will only run as a guest (ie. domU) right now, on i386/PAE platforms. which is open to misinterpretation. Perhaps someone with an account could change it to something clearer such as: The port will only run as a guest (ie. domU) right now, and only on i386/PAE platforms. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS License and Future
Chip == Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com writes: Chip I hope it's more than wishful thinking on their part. I would trust Chip Oracle to keep hands off for precisely as long as they do not perceive Chip any reason to put hands on. Understood... clearly, the suits can do whatever they want whenever they want as long as it's in the shareholders interest, but the VirtualBox guys are getting assurance from on high that they'll be left mostly alone. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Certification
Hi, You can find all the information here: http://www.bsdcertification.org/ Regards, MB. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody know apt-get ?
In message 20101107155831.67847.qm...@joyce.lan, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: In article 24360.1289127...@tristatelogic.com you write: I need to get sources for the Linux version of certain programs that reside in a package called bsdutils. So get them, already. No need to screw around with Linux binary installers, particularly not on the FreeBSD list: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/bsdutils Thank you John, I was not aware of this resource. I now have what I need. Regards, rfg P.S. I am guessing that you are aware that I still get Logic Error whenever I send mail to iecc.com (and I have been unable to reply to Neil on account of that). But on the off chance that this was unintentional, I mention it again, in case you might be inclined to rectify. (I also guess that I am no longer on the spamtools list, correct?) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: (no subject)
wayne mitchell waynemitch...@directsave.net wrote: i would like to get a hold of the 8.1 CURRENT 'distfiles' ... is there a source that makes dvd images of the distfile directory http://on-disk.com/cms/index.php?wiki=CustomDisc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: py-gtk install hangs
Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 07 November 2010: I've tried installing the py-gtk port a couple of times now with the same result each time: checking if C preprocessor likes IDL... yes checking if C preprocessor can read from stdin... yes checking how to ignore standard include path... At this point, it hangs indefinitely. If I kill it with Ctrl-C, I get this output: sed: confdefs.h: No such file or directory === Script configure failed unexpectedly. It also suggests I use gnomelogalyzer.sh to diagnose the problem, but before I bother I'd like to know if this is a known issue with an easy fix. Anyone? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] I just tried it, and mine is hung there now. Not drawing any apparent processor or disk load. I'll leave it sitting there and see what else I can figure out. It's actually in the configure phase of the ORBit port, on which py-gtk apparently depends. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpb5BQOUHm9M.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: py-gtk install hangs
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.comwrote: I just tried it, and mine is hung there now. Not drawing any apparent processor or disk load. I'll leave it sitting there and see what else I can figure out. It's actually in the configure phase of the ORBit port, on which py-gtk apparently depends. I just looked at my ports and I only see this Port: x11-toolkits/py-gtkscintilla Moved: Date: 2009-11-30 Reason: Has expired: no longer under development, last release in 2002 Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: py-gtk install hangs
Quoth Chris Brennan on Sunday, 07 November 2010: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.comwrote: I just tried it, and mine is hung there now. Not drawing any apparent processor or disk load. I'll leave it sitting there and see what else I can figure out. It's actually in the configure phase of the ORBit port, on which py-gtk apparently depends. I just looked at my ports and I only see this Port: x11-toolkits/py-gtkscintilla Moved: Date: 2009-11-30 Reason: Has expired: no longer under development, last release in 2002 ??? I have x11-toolkits/py-gtk, among others. Are you doing a directory listing of /usr/ports/x11-toolkits, or are you obtaining this information some other way? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpOw1TlQsEni.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: py-gtk install hangs
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.comwrote: Quoth Chris Brennan on Sunday, 07 November 2010: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: I just tried it, and mine is hung there now. Not drawing any apparent processor or disk load. I'll leave it sitting there and see what else I can figure out. It's actually in the configure phase of the ORBit port, on which py-gtk apparently depends. I just looked at my ports and I only see this Port: x11-toolkits/py-gtkscintilla Moved: Date: 2009-11-30 Reason: Has expired: no longer under development, last release in 2002 ??? I have x11-toolkits/py-gtk, among others. Are you doing a directory listing of /usr/ports/x11-toolkits, or are you obtaining this information some other way? cd /usr/ports; make search name=py-gtk and it returned one result ... are you using an up to date snapshot? try 'portsnap fetch extract update' incidentally if I grep the dir for py-gtk I get the following results [r...@blackdragon [/usr/ports]# lsl x11-toolkits/ | grep py-gtk 2 drwxr-xr-x3 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtk 2 drwxr-xr-x3 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtk2 2 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtkextra 2 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtkglext 2 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtksourceview [r...@blackdragon [/usr/ports]# for shiggles, I shall try and build it manually and see where I get on this if more then one of us do encounter the same stop then something upstream must be broke and we should try and track down where and report it to the port maintainer. Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: py-gtk install hangs
Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.comwrote: Quoth Chris Brennan on Sunday, 07 November 2010: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.comwrote: I just tried it, and mine is hung there now. Not drawing any apparent processor or disk load. I'll leave it sitting there and see what else I can figure out. It's actually in the configure phase of the ORBit port, on which py-gtk apparently depends. I just looked at my ports and I only see this Port: x11-toolkits/py-gtkscintilla Moved: Date: 2009-11-30 Reason: Has expired: no longer under development, last release in 2002 ??? I have x11-toolkits/py-gtk, among others. Are you doing a directory listing of /usr/ports/x11-toolkits, or are you obtaining this information some other way? cd /usr/ports; make search name=py-gtk and it returned one result ... are you using an up to date snapshot? try 'portsnap fetch extract update' incidentally if I grep the dir for py-gtk I get the following results [r...@blackdragon [/usr/ports]# lsl x11-toolkits/ | grep py-gtk 2 drwxr-xr-x3 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtk 2 drwxr-xr-x3 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtk2 2 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtkextra 2 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtkglext 2 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtksourceview [r...@blackdragon [/usr/ports]# for shiggles, I shall try and build it manually and see where I get on this if more then one of us do encounter the same stop then something upstream must be broke and we should try and track down where and report it to the port maintainer. Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions Make revealed the following for me (on my fbsd64-8.1 install on my laptop (running a gui env)) [r...@blackdragon [/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-gtk]# make === py26-gtk-0.6.11_10 conflicts with installed package(s): py26-gobject-2.21.1 py26-gtk-2.17.0_4 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-gtk. [r...@blackdragon [/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-gtk]# Did you try and build x11-toolkits/py-gtk2? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: py-gtk install hangs
Quoth Chris Brennan on Sunday, 07 November 2010: Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.comwrote: Quoth Chris Brennan on Sunday, 07 November 2010: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.comwrote: I just tried it, and mine is hung there now. Not drawing any apparent processor or disk load. I'll leave it sitting there and see what else I can figure out. It's actually in the configure phase of the ORBit port, on which py-gtk apparently depends. I just looked at my ports and I only see this Port: x11-toolkits/py-gtkscintilla Moved: Date: 2009-11-30 Reason: Has expired: no longer under development, last release in 2002 ??? I have x11-toolkits/py-gtk, among others. Are you doing a directory listing of /usr/ports/x11-toolkits, or are you obtaining this information some other way? cd /usr/ports; make search name=py-gtk and it returned one result ... are you using an up to date snapshot? try 'portsnap fetch extract update' incidentally if I grep the dir for py-gtk I get the following results [r...@blackdragon [/usr/ports]# lsl x11-toolkits/ | grep py-gtk 2 drwxr-xr-x3 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtk 2 drwxr-xr-x3 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtk2 2 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtkextra 2 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtkglext 2 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtksourceview [r...@blackdragon [/usr/ports]# for shiggles, I shall try and build it manually and see where I get on this if more then one of us do encounter the same stop then something upstream must be broke and we should try and track down where and report it to the port maintainer. Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions Make revealed the following for me (on my fbsd64-8.1 install on my laptop (running a gui env)) [r...@blackdragon [/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-gtk]# make === py26-gtk-0.6.11_10 conflicts with installed package(s): py26-gobject-2.21.1 py26-gtk-2.17.0_4 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-gtk. [r...@blackdragon [/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-gtk]# Did you try and build x11-toolkits/py-gtk2? ___ No, I did not. Nor did I get this error. I can reproduce the problem just by trying to build devel/ORBit -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpOfMussh553.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: py-gtk install hangs
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.comwrote:
Quoth Chris Brennan on Sunday, 07 November 2010:
Did you know...
If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
but what's worse is when you play it forward
...it installs Windows 2000
-- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net
wrote:
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Chip Camden
sterl...@camdensoftware.comwrote:
Quoth Chris Brennan on Sunday, 07 November 2010:
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Chip Camden
sterl...@camdensoftware.comwrote:
I just tried it, and mine is hung there now. Not drawing any
apparent
processor or disk load. I'll leave it sitting there and see what
else
I
can figure out.
It's actually in the configure phase of the ORBit port, on which
py-gtk
apparently depends.
I just looked at my ports and I only see this
Port: x11-toolkits/py-gtkscintilla
Moved:
Date: 2009-11-30
Reason: Has expired: no longer under development, last release in
2002
???
I have x11-toolkits/py-gtk, among others. Are you doing a directory
listing of /usr/ports/x11-toolkits, or are you obtaining this
information
some other way?
cd /usr/ports; make search name=py-gtk and it returned one result ...
are
you using an up to date snapshot? try 'portsnap fetch extract update'
incidentally if I grep the dir for py-gtk I get the following results
[r...@blackdragon [/usr/ports]# lsl x11-toolkits/ | grep py-gtk
2 drwxr-xr-x3 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtk
2 drwxr-xr-x3 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtk2
2 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtkextra
2 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtkglext
2 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512B Oct 30 15:07 py-gtksourceview
[r...@blackdragon [/usr/ports]#
for shiggles, I shall try and build it manually and see where I get on
this
if more then one of us do encounter the same stop then something
upstream must be broke and we should try and track down where and
report it
to the port maintainer.
Did you know...
If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
but what's worse is when you play it forward
...it installs Windows 2000
-- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
Make revealed the following for me (on my fbsd64-8.1 install on my laptop
(running a gui env))
[r...@blackdragon [/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-gtk]# make
=== py26-gtk-0.6.11_10 conflicts with installed package(s):
py26-gobject-2.21.1
py26-gtk-2.17.0_4
They install files into the same place.
Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-gtk.
[r...@blackdragon [/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-gtk]#
Did you try and build x11-toolkits/py-gtk2?
___
No, I did not. Nor did I get this error. I can reproduce the problem
just by trying to build devel/ORBit
--
I have been sucked into my mmo for the evening :D I shall embark on a sample
build of ORBit tomorrow between classes and see where I get.
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DNS/pings/IPs/ OR pfSense: kwik one....
After several tries, it looks like my MX (ethic) cannot have the same IP as ns1. I found two pingable IP's (of 5); only two are pingable. 209.180.213.209 and 209.180.213.214. Anybody know enough about pfSense to assist in getting the other three IP's to respond? gary (yes, of coarse I've googled and checked the pfSense list/forum. Zero.) -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade fails to run or do anything
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Ron (Lists) wrote: I'm trying to upgrade my ports and I can't get portupgrade to do anything. I type 'sudo portupgrade apache' (or any package) and all I get back is a command prompt. No error or any other message. portversion seems to work correctly, showing my out of date ports, etc. Is apache outdated? portupgrade won't update a port that's already at the current version unless you force it with -f. Running portupgrade with -F doesn't help at all. Well, no. -F means to only download distfiles. I've also noticed that tab-expansion isn't working like it used to on the port names, so that makes me wonder if the database is screwed up. Filename completion is a function of the shell. I try it accidentally from time to time with port names because it just would make sense to work, but it has never worked because they don't exist as files. 'portupgrade -r gcc' followed by Tab doesn't complete because there isn't a file named gcc-4.4.6.20101026 in the path (although they are in /var/db/pkg). Fortunately, name completion is not needed because portupgrade uses the pkg_name as a glob anyway. My portupgrade article: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html If that doesn't do it, please show what portversion -vl'' shows for apache. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade fails to run or do anything
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 09:21:22 -0800, Ron (Lists) rg.li...@rzweb.com wrote: I'm trying to upgrade my ports and I can't get portupgrade to do anything. I type 'sudo portupgrade apache' (or any package) and all I get back is a command prompt. No error or any other message. portversion seems to work correctly, showing my out of date ports, etc. You need to be in /usr/ports and then issue the port name together with the category; in your case: % cd /usr/ports % sudo portupgrade www/apache For shell filename completion to work, that is. portupgrade doesn't care about the current directory. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade fails to run or do anything
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Ron (Lists) wrote: None of these suggestions help. I have never had to put www/ in front of the port name before. It's not needed. The tab expansion is handled by bash-completion as used to be smart enough to know the command I was typing and could auto-complete port names, but no longer, which is why I suspect that I have a screwed up database. No, more likely your path changed and left out /var/db/pkg. This is not needed anyway, since the pkg_name is a glob: portupgrade -r apache will upgrade all ports starting with apache. The -r is something I suggest using regularly with portupgrade. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster question
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 12:21:59 -0700, Fred f...@blakemfg.com wrote: Hello, According to man portmaster the -a option will Update all ports that need updating. Does this apply to only installed ports or to everything in /usr/ports? It applies to installed ports. A commonly used command to upgrade them is portupgrad -af. Whoa--hold on there! portmaster -a portupgrade -a Both say upgrade all installed ports that need upgrading. Both can fail, but many people use them routinely. portupgrade -af means to force an upgrade of every installed port, even if it's already at the latest version. Don't do this lightly! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster question
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Jerry wrote: When using 'portupgrade', I commonly use the '-r' flag in conjunction with the previously discussed '-a' flag. While not as through as the -u -p flags with 'portmanger', it does accomplish its goal. Isn't portupgrade -a equivalent to -arR? I hope so, or I have a correction to make... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: py-gtk install hangs
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 08:39:55PM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote: Did you try and build x11-toolkits/py-gtk2? That works fine for me -- including providing for the reason I needed py-gtk in the first place. I'm still a little curious about what's going on with that build hang, even if it's not really important for my current needs, though. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpdviy5SHvpq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 10:07:29PM +, Bruce Cran wrote: On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 13:51:22 -0700 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I choose a little up-front learning curve for massive efficiency and productivity enhancements down the road. The increased efficiency of a minimal, composable toolset driven by the keyboard can be a huge win in long-term productivity for one motivated to learn how to use it, as well as a major savings on system resources (and hardware costs, since upgrades do not need to happen as often, nor be as cutting-edge). Others choose some inefficiency in the long run to avoid having to learn anything new up front. The increased discoverability, at least for simple tasks, of a point-and-click interface tends to seem more intuitive and familiar to people just coming to a new system for the first time, makes task completion easier to figure out the first time (and the thirtieth, since point-and-click interfaces tend to require figuring out the same tasks over and over again). With the command-line you also choose the inefficiency of having to read the man page every time you want to do something you're not familiar with. Well-designed UIs allow you to easily discover how to do it without resorting to the Help file - and since people tend to have good visual memories they can remember it better than a string of characters. A good example of this is Subversion tagging/branching: in Windows I can use the menu option TortoiseSVN - branch/tag... to create a branch and have it done in a minute. Using the command-line I'd have to spend time reading up on the commandline parameters to achieve the same thing, since it's something I only do about once a year or so. So, let's see here -- either I lose efficiency on things that aren't very familiar to me, because I have to type `foo --help` or `man foo` or something like that, or I lose efficiency on things I do all the time, because I have to mouse around a lot. Hmm. I wonder which I should choose. Seriously, though, it's not like I never use GUI tools. I occasionally use the mouse when dealing with stuff in the browser, for instance. I select and middle click to paste quite a lot. I'm not opposed to use of the GUI per se; I just use TUIs much more often, because I use them for tasks that I perform an awful lot if they happen to benefit (in terms of efficiency and productivity) by the use of a TUI. When they don't, I use a GUI instead. I wouldn't be willing to waste the time on little inefficiencies every single time I did *anything* with Subversion just for the dubious benefit of a one-time efficiency benefit once a year because I didn't remember off the top of my head how to branch, though. I use Mercurial a *lot*, and I do not see much benefit to using a GUI for it just on the off-chance I might need to do something I don't do very often when the GUI only gets in the way for the stuff I do several times a day, every day. I suppose your mileage may vary, though. I did give a nod to discoverability for GUIs, as you might note if you go back and read what you quoted back at me. That's exactly what you're talking about. I don't see why you have to pretend I didn't mention it, and try to paint the efficiencies on the other side of the trade-off as worthless in your response. I thought my original description of the trade-off was pretty well balanced, despite the fact I have a preference for one side over the other where most tasks are concerned. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpfFM40YtiiH.pgp Description: PGP signature
removing files
hi, I have a problem for deleting files using scriptplease some one can guide me for the same. I have some files with the extension of .chk extension along with the extension of .log and .gjf extension in the folder called different *input folders. *I wanted to delete the .chk file extension having files. If i go to individual input folder manually i can delete the file with *rm* command line by but i would like to delete all the .chk files extension files at a time through scripting rather than manual. So please some one help me for the same. /student/sweety/gaussiandata/*1249624064640*/input /student/sweety/gaussiandata/*1261202703914*/input /student/sweety/gaussiandata/*1263357080155*/input /student/sweety/gaussiandata/*1289106407303*/input thank you. regards, sweety. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: removing files
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:10 AM, yoganjaneyulu kasetti y.emailale...@gmail.com wrote: I have some files with the extension of .chk extension along with the extension of .log and .gjf extension in the folder called different *input folders. *I wanted to delete the .chk file extension having files. If i go to individual input folder manually i can delete the file with *rm* command line by but i would like to delete all the .chk files extension files at a time through scripting rather than manual. So please some one help me for the same. /student/sweety/gaussiandata/*1249624064640*/input /student/sweety/gaussiandata/*1261202703914*/input /student/sweety/gaussiandata/*1263357080155*/input /student/sweety/gaussiandata/*1289106407303*/input man find search for -delete -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: removing files
On Monday 08 November 2010 06:10:20 yoganjaneyulu kasetti wrote:
hi,
I have a problem for deleting files using scriptplease some one can
guide me for the same.
I have some files with the extension of .chk extension along with the
extension of .log and .gjf extension in the folder called different
*input folders. *I wanted to delete the .chk file extension having
files. If i go to individual input folder manually i can delete the file
with *rm* command line by but i would like to delete all the .chk files
extension files at a time through scripting rather than manual. So please
some one help me for the same.
/student/sweety/gaussiandata/*1249624064640*/input
Could you, in your script do something like:
cd /Path_to_Data_Root
find . -name *.chk -print -prune -exec rm -rf {} \;
Peg
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Re: No GPT on an usb key
Hi, On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 09:52:55 +0200 David DEMELIER wrote: I'm trying to put on my USB mass storage device a GPT scheme partitions. But gpart still add them as slices : To be sure to remove the MBR before I dd'ed it $ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 512 bytes transferred in 0.003369 secs (151970 bytes/sec) $ sudo gpart create -s GPT da0 da0 created $ gpart show da0 = 34 15771653 da0 GPT (7.5G) 34 15771653 - free - (7.5G) $ sudo gpart add -b 34 -t freebsd da0 da0s1 added Why it is still s1? In my kernel config I have this : GPART(8) may be a good start here. Ex.: - ... PARTITION TYPES The gpart utility uses symbolic names for common partition types to avoid that the user needs to know what the partitioning scheme in question is and what the actual number or identification needs to be used for a par- ticular type. The gpart utility also allows the user to specify scheme- specific partition types for partition types that do not have symbol names. The symbolic names currently understood are: ... freebsdA FreeBSD partition that uses the BSD disklabel to sub- divide the partition into file systems. This is a legacy partition type and should not be used for the APM or GPT schemes. The scheme-specific types are !165 for MBR, !FreeBSD for APM, and !516e7cb4-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b for GPT. ... - device crypto options GEOM_ELI options GEOM_PART_GPT options GEOM_LABEL options GEOM_VOL Do I need something that I forgot? Seems you forgot to read the manual page carefully. ;-) -- HTH WBR, bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
