Re: Laptop Multi-HD partitioning advice (ZFS)

[krad]

On 5 May 2011 00:17, Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote:


 I just got notified my new Thinkpad X220 is on it's way, and I'm thinking
 about the best way to use it.  ;)  Obviously, FreeBSD with ZFS is on top of
 the list.  (De-dup and compression on my space-limited laptop?  Yes,
 please.)

 Some relevant vitals (after a couple of upgrades that are also on their
 way):
 6GB of RAM
 250GB 2.5in HDD
 40GB mSATA SSD

 I'm planning on installing the patched version of 8.2, with the patches for
 ZFS v28.  My idea at this point is to use the main HDD as the primary drive,
 with the SSD partitioned into a small[1] ZIL-device and a larger cache
 drive.  Since it's a SSD, I don't think disk contention should be an issue
 for that use, and it should speed up both reads and writes.  It might even
 reduce the amount of main-disk use that happens.  (Or at least, make it
 happen in short bursts, and let the drive idle in between.)

 I might still upgrade that HDD to something larger than stock.  I could go
 to an SSD there too (and it's on a SATA III connection, so it could be a
 *faster* SSD), but I think I'm more likely to go with more space if I decide
 to upgrade.

 Obviously, I'm not afraid of a weird config in this case.  ;)  I'm also not
 trying to optimize hard for space, or for any specific use-case: I tend to
 use a laptop for light-duty when I'm not traveling, then more heavy-duty (as
 well as watching movies, etc) during occasional traveling.  The idea here is
 to let ZFS do the disk optimization.  It'll probably slow down my boot times
 from what could be possible, but I'm hoping ZFS will do things like move a
 movie I'm *currently* watching to the cache drive, and let the machine shut
 down the hard drive.

 Two things I'm *not* sure what the best choices for are the swap partition,
 and the boot sector.  Swap could be on the HDD (slow, reduces my apparent
 disk-space), on the SSD (fast, reduces my most valuable disk space), or in
 ZFS (doesn't use dedicated space, but has stability issues under heavy
 load).  Of course I may not ever *need* much swap, as I have a fair amount
 of RAM.  (And I don't care about crash dumps on this box.)

 The boot sector doesn't really matter as much; if I go with a dedicated
 swap partition that will probably also hold the boot sector.  Otherwise, I'm
 leaning towards the SSD, as I'm already planning on partitioning that, and
 I'm less likely to pull it out.

 Or, of course, there may be other considerations that I've overlooked in
 the rest.  So, I'm looking for wisdom, or other thoughts people have.  ;)

 Daniel T. Staal

 [1] As per:
 
 http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide#Separate_Log_Devices
 
 ZIL devices will never use more than 1/2 of RAM, at absolute max, and in
 most cases will use significantly less.  Fully upgraded, this machine
 supports 8GB of RAM, so a 4GB ZIL device would be plenty in all cases, and
 would probably be overkill.

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I think you may be agonizing to much. You would have to to seriously bad to
make it slow and even then its a relative thing.

Giving it 4GB ZIL, 8 GB swap, and 28 gb l2arc will make it rapid and cover
you for most things. Putting the swap on the 250 gig drive wont make much
difference though as like you said you wont be paging to disk much

Put the bootblocks etc on the hd. They are only 64kb anyhow so will make no
noticable difference to the boot time. Also if your ssd dies you wont have
an unusable system (apart from a zil issue maybe)
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Problem when swapping two IP addresses machines

[Frank Bonnet]

Hello

Yesterday I swapped the IP addresses of two machines
( new and old mail server ).

After I rebooted the two machines I was unable to join
our DNS server ( even to ping it )

I suspect the DNS was keeping the IP / MAC address mapping
of the two swapped machines , so I flushed the ARP cache but
it was still impossible to join the DNS from the concerned
machines. I have to reboot the DNS Server to be able to
ping it and use it again.

The DNS server runs FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4.

Thanks for any infos.





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Re: rox-fm

[pwnedomina]

Em 05-05-2011 02:50, Alejandro Imass escreveu:

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Daniel C. Dowsedcdo...@gmx.net  wrote:

On  Wed, 04 May 2011 23:33:18 +, pwnedominapwnedom...@gmail.com  wrote:

Em 04-05-2011 20:49, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu:

[...]


please always check that the recipient is the mailing list and not the one that
answered your question.



Yeah, this is a pain in the ass, and it's really not the OP's fault
entirely.  It's a simple mailman config option but I think it's an
idiosyncrasy thing about open lists, blah, blah, blah. The easiest way
is to ALWAYS HIT REPLY ALL, and the figure out who the mail is going
to. IMHO it should ALWAYS be the list ONLY, but many list admins use
it the way it's set-up here on the general questions list, why tf it
beats me, but it's really annoying.

I wish someone could clearly explain why the reply-to field should
ONLY have the mailing-list address, or at least have as the default
address and not the other way around as it is here!

Best,

--
Alejandro Imass


ok, ive choosen reply to all. my question now is
i have setted the command prompt to
|[%n@%m:%c]%#
but i intend to place color red in the [] brackets, how can i accomplish 
this?|


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Asus N70SV does not boot

[David Demelier]

Hello,

We are trying to boot the amd64 8.2-RELEASE cd and it get stucks at the 
end of:


cd0: hp DVDRAM GT20L DC05 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device
cd0: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA 1.x, UDMA5, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 8192bytes)
cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present 
- tray closed


Nothing happens, even five minutes later.. The motherboard is on a SIS 
chipset, do you have any clue on this?


Cheers,

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Re: rox-fm

[Polytropon]

On Thu, 05 May 2011 09:43:04 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote:
 ok, ive choosen reply to all. my question now is
 i have setted the command prompt to
 |[%n@%m:%c]%#
 but i intend to place color red in the [] brackets, how can i accomplish 
 this?|

It looks like you are configuring a C shell prompt, correct?
Make sure you have the following settings in ~/.cshrc (or in
/ect/csh.cshrc, if you want a global setting):

set promptchars = %#
set prompt = %n@%m:%~%# 

This would give you the STANDARD prompt - note the space after
the prompt character and the absense of the brackets.

You want red color - I'm not sure if this is supported in csh.
At least I know that bold printing is possible. Have a look
at this:

set prompt = [%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 

This uses %B and %b to switch on and off bold printing. Refer
to man csh, section Special shell variables and scroll
down to prompt - there are some more special settings to
customize the prompt. It mentions %{string%} for escape
sequences and can MAYBE be used for changing color.

Is the pipe character at the beginning of the prompt intended?
If yes, use this:

set prompt = |[%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 

I've kept the space at the end of the prompt for better
readability. Remove it if desired.




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Re: Laptop Multi-HD partitioning advice (ZFS)

[Daniel Staal]

 I think you may be agonizing to much. You would have to to seriously bad
 to make it slow and even then its a relative thing.

 Giving it 4GB ZIL, 8 GB swap, and 28 gb l2arc will make it rapid and cover
 you for most things. Putting the swap on the 250 gig drive wont make much
 difference though as like you said you wont be paging to disk much

 Put the bootblocks etc on the hd. They are only 64kb anyhow so will make
 no noticable difference to the boot time. Also if your ssd dies you wont
 have an unusable system (apart from a zil issue maybe)

I know I'm completely over-analyzing this.  ;)  But where's the fun in
computers if you can't over-analyze something?

I know any of the ways will *work*.  (Or can be made to.)  I'm just asking
for the wisdom and the opinions of the internets on whether anything could
be considered 'better'.

So: Thanks for your thoughts.  (One note: Loss of the ZIL drive should not
be a problem under the patched ZFS.  As of ZFS v19, the ZIL can be lost or
removed without affecting the filesystem.  Prior to that once you had
defined a ZIL drive you needed to always have a working ZIL drive.)

Daniel T. Staal

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Re: rox-fm

[pwnedomina]

Em 05-05-2011 12:37, Polytropon escreveu:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 09:43:04 +, pwnedominapwnedom...@gmail.com  wrote:

ok, ive choosen reply to all. my question now is
i have setted the command prompt to
|[%n@%m:%c]%#
but i intend to place color red in the [] brackets, how can i accomplish
this?|

It looks like you are configuring a C shell prompt, correct?
Make sure you have the following settings in ~/.cshrc (or in
/ect/csh.cshrc, if you want a global setting):

set promptchars = %#
set prompt = %n@%m:%~%# 

This would give you the STANDARD prompt - note the space after
the prompt character and the absense of the brackets.

You want red color - I'm not sure if this is supported in csh.
At least I know that bold printing is possible. Have a look
at this:

set prompt = [%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 

This uses %B and %b to switch on and off bold printing. Refer
to man csh, section Special shell variables and scroll
down to prompt - there are some more special settings to
customize the prompt. It mentions %{string%} for escape
sequences and can MAYBE be used for changing color.

Is the pipe character at the beginning of the prompt intended?
If yes, use this:

set prompt = |[%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 

I've kept the space at the end of the prompt for better
readability. Remove it if desired.



according to this page http://understudy.net/custom.html C shell support 
colors, how can i turn this prompt


set prompt = [%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 

with red color on brackets and white color on text?
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Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN?

[David Brodbeck]

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Geoff Roberts ge...@apro.com.au wrote:
 Was this easy to measure, and how did you measure this - dropped packets on
 the bridge interface?

I don't remember.  It's been too long since I last tried it.  Dropped
packets would be a good measure, though, assuming the bridge interface
does that kind of accounting.
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Re: rox-fm

[Polytropon]

On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:14:15 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote:
 according to this page http://understudy.net/custom.html C shell support 
 colors, how can i turn this prompt
 
 set prompt = [%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 
 
 with red color on brackets and white color on text?

Have a look at the page you mentioned above and you'll
easily find the answer, especially if you consult the
section

http://understudy.net/custom.html#color_prompts

and then scroll down to TC Shells - keep in mind that
FreeBSD's C shell is a TC shell (/bin/csh and /bin/tcsh
are the same program).

I've tried the example (on FreeBSD 7) from the web page
you mentioned and found that

set prompt = 
%{\033[31m%}[%{\033[0m%}%B%n@%m:%~%b%{\033[31m%}]%{\033[0m%}%# 

works as intended. %{\033[31m%} switches red color on, and
%B/%b applies bold face for the text inside the brackets.

In the section

http://understudy.net/custom.html#table2

you'll find a reference for the other colors programming
codes. You could, for example, use a different color for
root and nonroot shells, or change color depending on specific
shell accounts on your system.

You can also use other attributes like %S/%s for standout
(here: inverse) mode, or %U/%u for underline mode. However,
not every terminal (emulator) is capable of displaying them
as intended, for example the text mode console cannot do
unterlining, vt100 can do blinking _and_ underlining, but
can't do colors, xterm can do underlining, but _not_ blinking,
but can do colors... and so on.



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Re: rox-fm

[pwnedomina]

Em 05-05-2011 17:20, Polytropon escreveu:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:14:15 +, pwnedominapwnedom...@gmail.com  wrote:

according to this page http://understudy.net/custom.html C shell support
colors, how can i turn this prompt

set prompt = [%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 

with red color on brackets and white color on text?

Have a look at the page you mentioned above and you'll
easily find the answer, especially if you consult the
section

http://understudy.net/custom.html#color_prompts

and then scroll down to TC Shells - keep in mind that
FreeBSD's C shell is a TC shell (/bin/csh and /bin/tcsh
are the same program).

I've tried the example (on FreeBSD 7) from the web page
you mentioned and found that

set prompt = %{\033[31m%}[%{\033[0m%}%B%n@%m:%~%b%{\033[31m%}]%{\033[0m%}%# 


works as intended. %{\033[31m%} switches red color on, and
%B/%b applies bold face for the text inside the brackets.

In the section

http://understudy.net/custom.html#table2

you'll find a reference for the other colors programming
codes. You could, for example, use a different color for
root and nonroot shells, or change color depending on specific
shell accounts on your system.

You can also use other attributes like %S/%s for standout
(here: inverse) mode, or %U/%u for underline mode. However,
not every terminal (emulator) is capable of displaying them
as intended, for example the text mode console cannot do
unterlining, vt100 can do blinking _and_ underlining, but
can't do colors, xterm can do underlining, but _not_ blinking,
but can do colors... and so on.




the example you supply worked fine. thanks for helping.

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Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN?

[Nikos Vassiliadis]

On 5/5/2011 12:24 AM, David Brodbeck wrote:

The problem I've always found with bridged solutions is they don't
cope well under heavy traffic loads when the VPN link is slower than
the LANs they're bridging between.  And the VPN link is usually slower
if it's over a WAN.  The link tends to get saturated.


There is no inbuilt reason why a L2 VPN is more easily saturated
than a L3 VPN.

After all protocols doing bulk transfers should - and mostly - use
TCP which autotunes the rate of sent packets. And TCP should be
able to saturate the lower-bandwidth link of the whole path. That's
normal and desirable.

Some care must be taken with the broadcast and multicast traffic
which goes through the L2 VPN.

Just my 2 cents, Nikos
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Re: rox-fm

[pwnedomina]

Em 05-05-2011 17:20, Polytropon escreveu:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:14:15 +, pwnedominapwnedom...@gmail.com  wrote:

according to this page http://understudy.net/custom.html C shell support
colors, how can i turn this prompt

set prompt = [%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 

with red color on brackets and white color on text?

Have a look at the page you mentioned above and you'll
easily find the answer, especially if you consult the
section

http://understudy.net/custom.html#color_prompts

and then scroll down to TC Shells - keep in mind that
FreeBSD's C shell is a TC shell (/bin/csh and /bin/tcsh
are the same program).

I've tried the example (on FreeBSD 7) from the web page
you mentioned and found that

set prompt = %{\033[31m%}[%{\033[0m%}%B%n@%m:%~%b%{\033[31m%}]%{\033[0m%}%# 


works as intended. %{\033[31m%} switches red color on, and
%B/%b applies bold face for the text inside the brackets.

In the section

http://understudy.net/custom.html#table2

you'll find a reference for the other colors programming
codes. You could, for example, use a different color for
root and nonroot shells, or change color depending on specific
shell accounts on your system.

You can also use other attributes like %S/%s for standout
(here: inverse) mode, or %U/%u for underline mode. However,
not every terminal (emulator) is capable of displaying them
as intended, for example the text mode console cannot do
unterlining, vt100 can do blinking _and_ underlining, but
can't do colors, xterm can do underlining, but _not_ blinking,
but can do colors... and so on.



i had a little problem, after i have rox-filer running im unable to see 
output of root-tail texts in background, what can i do in order to fix this?

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ld-elf.so.1 Shared object libkipi.so.7 not found

[Michael]

Hello,

I'm having hard times with digikam. It used to work properly but then, 
after one of the updates (I'm not able to track it) it stopped.


When I try to run digikam I'm getting this error message:

/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libkipi.so.7 not found, required 
by digikam


I've tried to rebuild digikam and all dependencies but it's still the 
same. My ports tree is updated. I'm running FreeBSD 8.2-R on amd64 and 
digikam-kde4 port.


Any ideas please?

Michael
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Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN?

[David Brodbeck]

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis nv...@gmx.com wrote:
 There is no inbuilt reason why a L2 VPN is more easily saturated
 than a L3 VPN.

I disagree slightly.  With L2 you have broadcasts and non-routable
protocols being sent over the wire.  This is fortunately becoming less
of an issue than it used to be, but it can (for example) be a problem
for certain kinds of Windows networking.  I have had severe congestion
problems in the past when bridging wired interfaces to wireless.

In general I think adding a slow hop that's invisible to clients is
asking for trouble, but that's not to say it can't work well in
certain environments.  The main thing to remember is just because the
clients can pretend it's a LAN doesn't mean you can. ;)
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Home firewall with DLink router FreeBSD

[Leonardo M . Ramé]

Hi, at home I have a DLink Dir 300 router to provide internet access for my 
home network. The network is composed by two Windows PCs, one Linux laptop and 
one FreeBSD server we use mainly for storage and as web/database server.

I must add, the server only have one network card.

I would like to know if its possible to use the FreeBSD server as a Firewall 
for the whole network, securing LAN and WiFi connections. If this can be done, 
then how? could you point me to some howto?.

Thanks in advance,
Leonardo M. Ramé
http://leonardorame.blogspot.com
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Re: rox-fm

[David Brodbeck]

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
 I wish someone could clearly explain why the reply-to field should
 ONLY have the mailing-list address, or at least have as the default
 address and not the other way around as it is here!

This is one of the all-time great religious wars of the internet, on
par with vi vs. Emacs and top-posting vs. bottom-posting.

See http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-harmful.html for one
side of the argument, and
http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.html for the other side.

My advice is to just accept that some mailing list administrators will
choose one side of this particular schism, and others will choose the
other.  Arguing the issue rarely gets anywhere.
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about ulpt speed

[Wojciech Puchar]

we recently bought kyocera 2020D printer. There are USB and LAN versions. 
We got cheaper USB as it is connected 1 meter from server anyway.


But seems there are some problems with USB
ulpt seems to work fine, device is connected at 480Mbps

but 2 page 5 megabyte postscript file is transmitted 10-15 seconds.

On Kyocera 3900DN which have EXACTLY same internal processor, same amount 
of RAM, but LAN interface and even similar printing mechanism and nearly 
same look - same file is accepted below one second to printer and soon it 
is printing it.


Larger postscript files are transmitted longer.

I am not sure but seems it is not printer problem. Any ideas what to 
check/change in ulpt?


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Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

[Antonio Olivares]

Dear all,

I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it
following advice in handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

ran
# freebsd-update fetch
# freebsd-update install

# portupgrade -af

# freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade

then

# freebsd-update install

Tried to do this:
# portupgrade -f ruby
# rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
# portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
# rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
# portupgrade -af

Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again

# freebsd-update install

and had nothing more to do :(

I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :

# portupgrade -arRp

will this prompt me for customizations?

Thanks in advance/advice/suggestions.  I am taking the plunge a little
further.  Before I just installed and left it alone :( [except for a
few packages that I wanted and ran/installed via ports ], now I am
trying to learn more and setup the firewall.  I set up the simple
example setup by Polytropon and most is working.  My freebsd version
has moved to FreeBSD 8.2



[olivares@grullahighschool /usr/home/olivares]$ uname -a
FreeBSD grullahighschool.rgccisd.org 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE
#0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011
r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64


Regards,

Antonio
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Re: rox-fm

[Alejandro Imass]

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:35 PM, David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote:
 On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
 I wish someone could clearly explain why the reply-to field should
 ONLY have the mailing-list address, or at least have as the default
 address and not the other way around as it is here!

 This is one of the all-time great religious wars of the internet, on
 par with vi vs. Emacs and top-posting vs. bottom-posting.

 See http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-harmful.html for one
 side of the argument, and
 http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.html for the other side.


Man, that's hilarious! Using the same rhetoric but backwards!

Very cool read... and I was even kinda shy to ask, I mean so many
years on lists and I'd thought I had heard something on this respect
but never imagined it was actually a religious point.

Thanks again,

--
Alejandro
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

[Polytropon]

On Thu, 5 May 2011 17:50:28 -0500, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Tried to do this:
 # portupgrade -f ruby
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
 # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
 # portupgrade -af
 
 Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again

I think customizations refers to the make config
screens, correct? It's the typical kind of interaction
that _nobody_ likes. :-)



 I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :
 
 # portupgrade -arRp
 
 will this prompt me for customizations?

The -P (and -PP) parameters requests precompiled binary
packages - there is no way to configure them (as they have
already been built using the port's default options).
However, as soon as a package is not available, portupgrade
will install the port from source (so make sure your
ports tree is up to date), and it MAY happen that there
is a make config interaction.

The portupgrade program has a --batch parameter that
reflects the BATCH=yes option for make calls (as if you
would use make install).

The decision tree is as follows:

Port can be configured?
Yes.
Port has already been configured?
Yes.
Build it with that options.
No.
Ask for options.
Then build it with that options.
No.
Build port.

This applies if there is no package (which you require
with the -P parameter to portupgrade).

Make sure you've understood the upgrading procedures for
the system and the installed applications correctly.
There _may_ be better tools than portupgrade for dealing
with the second part (e. g. portmaster, portmanager).
The command line parameters you've collected make portupgrade
perform a pkg_add-like upgrade the binary way.

Also note the correct order of the upgrade steps:
1. Upgrade system (with freebsd-update)
2. Upgrade ports tree (with portsnap)
3. Upgrade installed software (with portupgrade)

As I've mentioned, there are other tools that could take
the place of the with * suggested above, but I think
this is the way you intend to go.

Just as an example, make config-recursive allows you to
do all the config screens in one run, one after each other,
and as soon as the settings got saved, they will be used
without any further questions. See man ports for details
about the several build targets; also see man portupgrade
of other options you might need to create a non-interactive
way of upgrading your installed ports.


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Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

[Antonio Olivares]

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 On Thu, 5 May 2011 17:50:28 -0500, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Tried to do this:
 # portupgrade -f ruby
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
 # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
 # portupgrade -af

 Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again

 I think customizations refers to the make config
 screens, correct? It's the typical kind of interaction
 that _nobody_ likes. :-)

Yes these are the ones :)  I have encountered two/three days of these
:(  This is why I am asking.


 I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :

 # portupgrade -arRp

 will this prompt me for customizations?

 The -P (and -PP) parameters requests precompiled binary
 packages - there is no way to configure them (as they have
 already been built using the port's default options).
 However, as soon as a package is not available, portupgrade
 will install the port from source (so make sure your
 ports tree is up to date), and it MAY happen that there
 is a make config interaction.

 The portupgrade program has a --batch parameter that
 reflects the BATCH=yes option for make calls (as if you
 would use make install).

 The decision tree is as follows:

 Port can be configured?
        Yes.
                Port has already been configured?
                        Yes.
                                Build it with that options.
                        No.
                                Ask for options.
                                Then build it with that options.
        No.
                Build port.

 This applies if there is no package (which you require
 with the -P parameter to portupgrade).

 Make sure you've understood the upgrading procedures for
 the system and the installed applications correctly.
 There _may_ be better tools than portupgrade for dealing
 with the second part (e. g. portmaster, portmanager).
 The command line parameters you've collected make portupgrade
 perform a pkg_add-like upgrade the binary way.

 Also note the correct order of the upgrade steps:
 1. Upgrade system (with freebsd-update)
 2. Upgrade ports tree (with portsnap)
 3. Upgrade installed software (with portupgrade)

This is exactly more or less what I have done. while doing 1, I
encountered several broken ports.  But I just skipped those.  Ran 2
like the commands I posted.

 As I've mentioned, there are other tools that could take
 the place of the with * suggested above, but I think
 this is the way you intend to go.

 Just as an example, make config-recursive allows you to
 do all the config screens in one run, one after each other,
 and as soon as the settings got saved, they will be used
 without any further questions. See man ports for details
 about the several build targets; also see man portupgrade
 of other options you might need to create a non-interactive
 way of upgrading your installed ports.

I should have asked before :(, tried to do it on my own.  I have spent
two to three days answering questions back and forth and it seemed
that I would not finish :(  I was not sure to proceed or not, because
previously I got burned with many errors that lib.so , ... and I
saw the system working and left it at that.  But now I know that to
keep a system in good working condition it needs to be updated with
security updates :)

 --
 Polytropon
 Magdeburg, Germany
 Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...


Thanks for helping out.  I have not encountered any prompts(*crossing
my fingers*) will let you know how this turns out.

Regards,

Antonio
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Re: rox-fm

[Daniel C. Dowse]

On  Thu, 05 May 2011 19:42:32 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote:
[cut]

i had a little problem, after i have rox-filer running im unable to see 
output of root-tail texts in background, what can i do in order to fix this?

It may be cause your run rox with -S [ --rox-session ] option and the pinboard
is set as your backdrop, you probably have to run rox without the session
command.

cheers
 
Daniel Dowse

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Re: rox-fm

[pwnedomina]

Em 05-05-2011 23:48, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu:
 On  Thu, 05 May 2011 19:42:32 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote:
 [cut]
 i had a little problem, after i have rox-filer running im unable to see 
 output of root-tail texts in background, what can i do in order to fix this?
 It may be cause your run rox with -S [ --rox-session ] option and the pinboard
 is set as your backdrop, you probably have to run rox without the session
 command.

 cheers
  
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as for the root-tail what settings you recommend to use?
on http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=.xinitrc
they have show this example

 #!/bin/sh
 #log files we like to watch
 logfile1=/var/log/messages,white
 logfile2=/var/log/kern.log,green
 logfile3=/var/log/auth.log,red,'LOGIN'
 logfile4=/var/log/secure,red,'ALERT!!'
 #the font we want our log to show
 logfont=-rolibue-matto-bold-r-normal--14-14-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1
 #the deminsions of our log area
 geom=800x350+10+40
 exec gkrellm2 -w 
 exec root-tail -g ${geom} -fn ${logfont} ${log1} ${log2} ${log3} ${log4}
 klipper
 xset r rate 195 35
 #load our custom keymaps for special keys to work in x
 xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
 #load our custom settings for terminal and other stuff
 xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults
 #start a window manager
 exec fluxbox
 #can only execute one this time we use fluxbox
 #exec openbox

which does not seem very suitable, do you recommend other settings?
 #exec wmaker


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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

[Chris Brennan]

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Antonio Olivares
olivares14...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
  On Thu, 5 May 2011 17:50:28 -0500, Antonio Olivares 
 olivares14...@gmail.com wrote:
  Tried to do this:
  # portupgrade -f ruby
  # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
  # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
  # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
  # portupgrade -af
 
  Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again
 
  I think customizations refers to the make config
  screens, correct? It's the typical kind of interaction
  that _nobody_ likes. :-)
 
 Yes these are the ones :)  I have encountered two/three days of these
 :(  This is why I am asking.
 
 
  I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :
 
  # portupgrade -arRp
 
  will this prompt me for customizations?
 
  The -P (and -PP) parameters requests precompiled binary
  packages - there is no way to configure them (as they have
  already been built using the port's default options).
  However, as soon as a package is not available, portupgrade
  will install the port from source (so make sure your
  ports tree is up to date), and it MAY happen that there
  is a make config interaction.
 
  The portupgrade program has a --batch parameter that
  reflects the BATCH=yes option for make calls (as if you
  would use make install).
 
  The decision tree is as follows:
 
  Port can be configured?
 Yes.
 Port has already been configured?
 Yes.
 Build it with that options.
 No.
 Ask for options.
 Then build it with that options.
 No.
 Build port.
 
  This applies if there is no package (which you require
  with the -P parameter to portupgrade).
 
  Make sure you've understood the upgrading procedures for
  the system and the installed applications correctly.
  There _may_ be better tools than portupgrade for dealing
  with the second part (e. g. portmaster, portmanager).
  The command line parameters you've collected make portupgrade
  perform a pkg_add-like upgrade the binary way.
 
  Also note the correct order of the upgrade steps:
  1. Upgrade system (with freebsd-update)
  2. Upgrade ports tree (with portsnap)
  3. Upgrade installed software (with portupgrade)
 
 This is exactly more or less what I have done. while doing 1, I
 encountered several broken ports.  But I just skipped those.  Ran 2
 like the commands I posted.
 
  As I've mentioned, there are other tools that could take
  the place of the with * suggested above, but I think
  this is the way you intend to go.
 
  Just as an example, make config-recursive allows you to
  do all the config screens in one run, one after each other,
  and as soon as the settings got saved, they will be used
  without any further questions. See man ports for details
  about the several build targets; also see man portupgrade
  of other options you might need to create a non-interactive
  way of upgrading your installed ports.

 I should have asked before :(, tried to do it on my own.  I have spent
 two to three days answering questions back and forth and it seemed
 that I would not finish :(  I was not sure to proceed or not, because
 previously I got burned with many errors that lib.so , ... and I
 saw the system working and left it at that.  But now I know that to
 keep a system in good working condition it needs to be updated with
 security updates :)
 
  --
  Polytropon
  Magdeburg, Germany
  Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
  Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
 

 Thanks for helping out.  I have not encountered any prompts(*crossing
 my fingers*) will let you know how this turns out.


something to keep in mind  portmaster does the same thing and all of
portupgrades switches work with portmaster, the only significant difference
is that portmaster will run through and prompt you for all of the 'make
config' options first and then go about it's business unattended from that
point on... it will test for a valid set of config options in all of it's
deps before it builds anything, so for something large like gnome, you might
sit there for a while answering config screens, but once it's done, it will
require no more interaction unless a make dies for some reason...

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 A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.

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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

[Antonio Olivares]

 something to keep in mind  portmaster does the same thing and all of
 portupgrades switches work with portmaster, the only significant difference
 is that portmaster will run through and prompt you for all of the 'make
 config' options first and then go about it's business unattended from that
 point on... it will test for a valid set of config options in all of it's
 deps before it builds anything, so for something large like gnome, you might
 sit there for a while answering config screens, but once it's done, it will
 require no more interaction unless a make dies for some reason...

 --
 A: Yes.
 Q: Are you sure?
 A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.

 Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?

Now, another question.  I was thinking about this.  Should I have
popped in a dvd and just used it to upgrade?

Should I have run
# make buildworld
or some magical command(s) that will build the system against newer
binaries and newer ports so that the system works better and
optimized?

I have limited experience using FreeBSD :(, have used it on and off
since release 5.3 with KDE 3.4/3.5 series.  I installed it and had
dialup at home tried to get the ltmodem port working, but did not
succeed :(, and I left it as pristine as it was.  I also got a
BSDLiveCD : by Scott Ullrich:

http://livebsd.com/
\begin{quote}
Inception
LiveBSD was founded by Scott Ullrich and Chris Buechler in January
2004. It started its life as an open source project, modifying
FreeSBIE scripts to build FreeBSD-based live CD's. A name was decided
on, and the domain registered on February 28, 2004.  The first LiveBSD
Desktop CD was released at that time, a KDE desktop live CD based on
FreeBSD 5.2, built using modified FreeSBIE scripts.
\end{quote}

I really liked it and used it at school.  However the project died/was
unsupported, it appears FreeSBIE has not had much love either.

So far it has not prompted me for any configurations.  Had done that
for two/three days with the previous command:

# portupgrade -af

Then
# freebsd-update install

but the ports/packages were still for old 8.1 release :(, now I have
updated ports tree with
# portsnap fetch
# portsnap extract
and
# portsnap install

and running :

# portupgrade -arRp

I hope that it would finish soon.  I don't know enough like I would
like to.  Sadly :( except for installing some ports [cd
/usr/ports/editor/some-package/, make install clean] and the package
would build after configuring some stuff :), but now the stuff was
overwhelming :( and I would have preferred to learn a quick and not
too painful way of updating :)  But this is part of learning and I
will take it in stride.

It is building new documentation packages handbook for several
languages some new packages and it is moving nicely :)

Regards,

Antonio
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Home firewall with DLink router and FreeBSD

[Leonardo M . Ramé]

Hi, at home I have a DLink Dir 300 router to provide internet access for my 
home network. The network is composed by two Windows PCs, one Linux laptop and 
one FreeBSD server we use mainly for storage and as web/database server.

I must add, the server only have one network card.

I would like to know if its possible to use the FreeBSD server as a Firewall 
for the whole network, securing LAN and WiFi connections. If this can be done, 
then how? could you point me to some howto?.

P.S.: this is the 2nd time I send this email, the first time it got caught by 
SpamAssassin. Maybe because a link in my signature.

Thanks in advance,
Leonardo M. Ramé
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Re: Home firewall with DLink router and FreeBSD

[Jon Radel]

On 5/5/11 8:37 PM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:


Hi, at home I have a DLink Dir 300 router to provide internet access for my 
home network. The network is composed by two Windows PCs, one Linux laptop and 
one FreeBSD server we use mainly for storage and as web/database server.

I must add, the server only have one network card.


It becomes difficult to use a server as a firewall unless you have an 
inside and an outside network.  Easiest is to simply add another 
network card, should that be possible on your server.  Another 
possibility is to use VLAN taggging and connect the server to a switch 
that understands VLANs.




I would like to know if its possible to use the FreeBSD server as a Firewall 
for the whole network, securing LAN and WiFi connections. If this can be done, 
then how? could you point me to some howto?.



Yes.  I'd start on the FreeBSD website and start reading things that 
look useful.  If you're thinking about using pf as your firewall, which 
I'd personally recommend though other options are perfectly workable 
also, there's a nice document on the OpenBSD web site, IIRC.



P.S.: this is the 2nd time I send this email, the first time it got caught by 
SpamAssassin. Maybe because a link in my signature.



We got both on the list.

--Jon Radel
j...@radel.com
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

[Polytropon]

On Thu, 5 May 2011 19:27:03 -0500, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Now, another question.  I was thinking about this.  Should I have
 popped in a dvd and just used it to upgrade?

I've never tried that, but it _should_ be possible to
overwrite an existing installation (e. g. 8.1) with
the files of the newer one (e. g. 8.2); however I would
consider this a bad approach.



 Should I have run
 # make buildworld
 or some magical command(s) that will build the system against newer
 binaries and newer ports so that the system works better and
 optimized?


Depends. If you want to follow -RELEASE _and_ you do
not need a custom kernel, use freebsd-upgrade to use
the binary way. If you _intendedly_ want to use source
based updates to use -STABLE (or even -CURRENT) and (or)
you need a custom kernel that requires compiling, using
the source is the better way.

Personally, I do both. On servers for example, I upgrade
the binary way on -RELEASE, then rebuild the ports (after
upgrading the ports tree, of course). On my testing system
that I use to try out bleeding edge software and where
I also want a custom kernel (due to some specific hardware),
I use the source Luke.



 I have limited experience using FreeBSD :(, have used it on and off
 since release 5.3 with KDE 3.4/3.5 series.  I installed it and had
 dialup at home tried to get the ltmodem port working, but did not
 succeed :(, and I left it as pristine as it was. 

I have also started using FreeBSD with dialup (real PPP with
modem), but this one was a regular serial one which worked
out of the box - not as the crap usually assembled into modern
laptops...



 I also got a
 BSDLiveCD : by Scott Ullrich:
 
 http://livebsd.com/

There's also FreeSBIE, one of the famous FreeBSD live system
CDs (which I traditionally use for diagnostics and test).



 \begin{quote}
 Inception
 LiveBSD was founded by Scott Ullrich and Chris Buechler in January
 2004. It started its life as an open source project, modifying
 FreeSBIE scripts to build FreeBSD-based live CD's. A name was decided
 on, and the domain registered on February 28, 2004.  The first LiveBSD
 Desktop CD was released at that time, a KDE desktop live CD based on
 FreeBSD 5.2, built using modified FreeSBIE scripts.
 \end{quote}

Sounds interesting, thanks for mentioning it!



 I really liked it and used it at school.  However the project died/was
 unsupported, it appears FreeSBIE has not had much love either.

You can build your own live system CD if needed - there are
excellent tools for that. So once you got a system configured
the way you want, you can follow this idea and make a portable
system from that.



 So far it has not prompted me for any configurations.  Had done that
 for two/three days with the previous command:
 
 # portupgrade -af

This will stop on any point a configuration is needed.



 Then
 # freebsd-update install

Shouldn't you upgrade the system PRIOR TO the ports?
The order is recommended as system - ports tree - ports.



 but the ports/packages were still for old 8.1 release :(,

Yes, as you've updated them on 8.1, and THEN you got the
system to 8.2.



 now I have
 updated ports tree with
 # portsnap fetch
 # portsnap extract
 and
 # portsnap install

That's correct.

Just as a sidenote: There is another way to upgrade the ports
tree, the traditional one from the days before portsnap:

Step 1: Add this to /etc/make.conf:

SUP_UPDATE= yes
SUP=/usr/bin/csup
SUPFLAGS=   -g -L 2
SUPHOST=cvsup.freebsd.org
PORTSSUPFILE=   /etc/sup/ports.sup

Step 2: Create /etc/sup/ports.sup:

*default host=cvsup.freebsd.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=.
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
ports-all

Note: You can use a different cvsup host and can also exclude
port categories from being updated (e. g. for languages you
do not use, or kinds of programs you are not interested in).
See /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile for more details,
it's very well documented (here: in comments).

Step 3: Perform the update

# cd /usr/ports
# make update

Now you have a _current_ ports tree.

Note: A similar method works for the system sources. Add

SUPFILE=/etc/sup/stable.sup

to /etc/make.conf and create /etc/sup/stable.sup like this:

*default host=cvsup.freebsd.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
src-all

This will give you 8-CURRENT. Use tag=RELENG_8.0 for 8.0-pX
(security branch, just as freebsd-update would do), and if you
need RELEASE, use tag=RELENG_8.0.0.

Then,

# cd /usr/src
# make update
# make buildworld buildkernel

See /usr/src/Makefile (comment section) for which make targets
are defined and in which order 

Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

[Frank Shute]

On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 05:50:28PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it
 following advice in handbook:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html
 
 ran
 # freebsd-update fetch
 # freebsd-update install
 
 # portupgrade -af
 
 # freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade
 
 then
 
 # freebsd-update install
 
 Tried to do this:
 # portupgrade -f ruby
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
 # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
 # portupgrade -af
 
 Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again
 
 # freebsd-update install
 
 and had nothing more to do :(
 
 I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :
 
 # portupgrade -arRp
 
 will this prompt me for customizations?

Yes it will. I usually use the -C flag of portupgrade when I'm
updating ports. This flag prompts you with all the options screens
before it does the update. That way you're not left with the upgrade
hanging half way through whilst it waits for you to configure the
options.

As Polytropon says you can use the --batch flag if you know that you
don't want to change the default options.

 
 Thanks in advance/advice/suggestions.  I am taking the plunge a little
 further.  Before I just installed and left it alone :( [except for a
 few packages that I wanted and ran/installed via ports ], now I am
 trying to learn more and setup the firewall.  I set up the simple
 example setup by Polytropon and most is working.  My freebsd version
 has moved to FreeBSD 8.2
 
 
 
 [olivares@grullahighschool /usr/home/olivares]$ uname -a
 FreeBSD grullahighschool.rgccisd.org 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE
 #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011
 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Antonio

Regards,

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Re: Home firewall with DLink router and FreeBSD

[Daniel Staal]

--As of May 5, 2011 5:37:52 PM -0700, Leonardo M. Ramé is alleged to have 
said:



Hi, at home I have a DLink Dir 300 router to provide internet access for
my home network. The network is composed by two Windows PCs, one Linux
laptop and one FreeBSD server we use mainly for storage and as
web/database server.

I must add, the server only have one network card.

I would like to know if its possible to use the FreeBSD server as a
Firewall for the whole network, securing LAN and WiFi connections. If
this can be done, then how? could you point me to some howto?.


--As for the rest, it is mine.

I don't know of any howto's but it is possible.  You would need to set up 
the FreeBSD box with two ip's on it's interface, (one as an alias), and 
have them on separate networks.  (Sharing the same hardware, but with 
non-overlapping ip ranges.  Make one a 10.* network and one a 192.168.* 
network.)  One is the 'outside' network, and includes your internet 
gateway.  The other is your 'inside' network and includes everything else. 
(Including your WiFi access point.)


Then you set up the FreeBSD box to route  NAT between them, and to 
firewall along the way.  A standard FreeBSD firewall howto would work 
there, as long as you watch that you never specify an interface name in the 
firewall rules, but use the IP address instead.


However, I would not recommend this.  It's way too easy to accidentally at 
some later point put one of your home boxes on the 'outside' network and 
then you've just bypassed your firewall.  Another ethernet card won't cost 
much, and will make the setup easier and more secure: You can then 
physically separate the networks.


Daniel T. Staal

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Re: rox-fm

[pwnedomina]

Em 06-05-2011 01:01, pwnedomina escreveu:
 Em 05-05-2011 23:48, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu:
 On  Thu, 05 May 2011 19:42:32 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote:
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 i had a little problem, after i have rox-filer running im unable to see 
 output of root-tail texts in background, what can i do in order to fix this?
 It may be cause your run rox with -S [ --rox-session ] option and the 
 pinboard
 is set as your backdrop, you probably have to run rox without the session
 command.

 cheers
  
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 as for the root-tail what settings you recommend to use?
 on http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=.xinitrc
 they have show this example

  #!/bin/sh
  #log files we like to watch
  logfile1=/var/log/messages,white
  logfile2=/var/log/kern.log,green
  logfile3=/var/log/auth.log,red,'LOGIN'
  logfile4=/var/log/secure,red,'ALERT!!'
  #the font we want our log to show
  logfont=-rolibue-matto-bold-r-normal--14-14-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1
  #the deminsions of our log area
  geom=800x350+10+40
  exec gkrellm2 -w 
  exec root-tail -g ${geom} -fn ${logfont} ${log1} ${log2} ${log3} ${log4}
  klipper
  xset r rate 195 35
  #load our custom keymaps for special keys to work in x
  xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
  #load our custom settings for terminal and other stuff
  xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults
  #start a window manager
  exec fluxbox
  #can only execute one this time we use fluxbox
  #exec openbox

 which does not seem very suitable, do you recommend other settings?
  #exec wmaker


now, whenever i try to execute rox and open files i get the message
exec: /path/file: Permission denied. what is wrong?

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Re: about ulpt speed

[Warren Block]

On Fri, 6 May 2011, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

we recently bought kyocera 2020D printer. There are USB and LAN versions. We 
got cheaper USB as it is connected 1 meter from server anyway.


But seems there are some problems with USB
ulpt seems to work fine, device is connected at 480Mbps

but 2 page 5 megabyte postscript file is transmitted 10-15 seconds.

On Kyocera 3900DN which have EXACTLY same internal processor, same amount of 
RAM, but LAN interface and even similar printing mechanism and nearly same 
look - same file is accepted below one second to printer and soon it is 
printing it.


Larger postscript files are transmitted longer.

I am not sure but seems it is not printer problem. Any ideas what to 
check/change in ulpt?


It's worth trying unlpt.  But if the sending time is proportional to the 
file size, it's probably not that.

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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

[Warren Block]

On Thu, 5 May 2011, Chris Brennan wrote:


something to keep in mind  portmaster does the same thing and all of
portupgrades switches work with portmaster,


portmaster doesn't have the same switches as portupgrade.  Or, being 
more precise, it has some of the same option flags, but they mean 
something completely different.  For example, -R.


the only significant difference is that portmaster will run through 
and prompt you for all of the 'make config' options first and then go 
about it's business unattended from that point on...


The -c or -C options for portupgrade do that, but they aren't on by 
default.


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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

[Warren Block]

On Thu, 5 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote:


Dear all,

I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it
following advice in handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

ran
# freebsd-update fetch
# freebsd-update install

# portupgrade -af

# freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade

then

# freebsd-update install

Tried to do this:
# portupgrade -f ruby
# rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
# portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
# rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
# portupgrade -af

Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again


portupgrade is written in Ruby and uses ruby-bdb, so this may not work. 
-f is of questionable value.  Why not just cd to the port directories, 
and 'make clean build deinstall install'?



# freebsd-update install

and had nothing more to do :(

I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :

# portupgrade -arRp


-a is equivalent to -arR.  And that's building packages, which is not 
necessary unless you want to copy them to another machine.



will this prompt me for customizations?


Options menus?  Yes, the ports will ask on their own.  If you use the -c 
or -C options, portupgrade will do all of them at the start of the 
process.

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Re: Home firewall with DLink router and FreeBSD

[Leonardo M . Ramé]

--- On Thu, 5/5/11, Jon Radel j...@radel.com wrote:

 From: Jon Radel j...@radel.com
 Subject: Re: Home firewall with DLink router and FreeBSD
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 9:50 PM
 
 On 5/5/11 8:37 PM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:
  
  Hi, at home I have a DLink Dir 300 router to provide
 internet access for my home network. The network is composed
 by two Windows PCs, one Linux laptop and one FreeBSD server
 we use mainly for storage and as web/database server.
  
  I must add, the server only have one network card.
 
 It becomes difficult to use a server as a firewall unless
 you have an inside and an outside network.  Easiest
 is to simply add another network card, should that be
 possible on your server.  Another possibility is to use
 VLAN taggging and connect the server to a switch that
 understands VLANs.
 
  
  I would like to know if its possible to use the
 FreeBSD server as a Firewall for the whole network, securing
 LAN and WiFi connections. If this can be done, then how?
 could you point me to some howto?.
  
 
 Yes.  I'd start on the FreeBSD website and start
 reading things that look useful.  If you're thinking
 about using pf as your firewall, which I'd personally
 recommend though other options are perfectly workable also,
 there's a nice document on the OpenBSD web site, IIRC.
 

Thanks, I think I better add a 2nd network card, as Daniel suggested. Then I'll 
try this again.

Leonardo M. Ramé
http://leonardorame.blogspot.com
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Sending a Fax

[Doug Hardie]

One of my clients needs to send a lot of faxes.  He has a Brother 8680DN which 
will fax.  Any ideas how to send a file to it and get it to send a fax?  I am 
not finding anything beyond printing for that unit via 
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Re: Sending a Fax

[Doug Hardie]

On 5 May 2011, at 22:19, Matthias Apitz wrote:

 El día Thursday, May 05, 2011 a las 07:21:29PM -0700, Doug Hardie escribió:
 
 One of my clients needs to send a lot of faxes.  He has a Brother 8680DN 
 which will fax.  Any ideas how to send a file to it and get it to send a 
 fax?  I am not finding anything beyond printing for that unit via 
 Google.___
 
 Check out HylaFAX in the ports; don't know if your modem is supported;

Thanks.  As best as I can tell the Brother unit has a modem built it, but the 
only interface to it is via ethernet.  I suspect it takes a PDF and then sends 
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RE: Sending a Fax

[Matt Emmerton]

 One of my clients needs to send a lot of faxes.  He has a Brother 8680DN
which will fax.
 Any ideas how to send a file to it and get it to send a fax?  I am not
finding anything
 beyond printing for that unit via Google.



According to
http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/us/us/en/monolasermfc/m
fc8680dn_us/spec/index.html, this device does have PC FAX capabilities on
Windows/Mac/Linux.

Here is the download site for Linux drivers:
http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html

With some Linux emulator and CUPS tweaking, you should be able to get the
Linux PC FAX capability working on FreeBSD.

YMMV, HTH.

--
Regards,
Matt Emmerton

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