Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD

2012-01-31 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 01:52:19AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:40:50 -0500, David Jackson wrote:
  On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Polytropon wrote:
  
   Other things to keep in mind are language settings. One example is
   OpenOffice which needs to have the language setting at compile
   time, especially if you're not using the english language.
 
  You could compile a version of that for each language and I think
  thats what Ubuntu does, or, just compile maybe top 1 or 2 most
  commonly used language version and then other versions could be user
  compiled.
 
 There are, I think... at least 10 languages available, and combine this
 with Gnome, KDE and CUPS support OFF or ON, and you have 10*2*2*2 = 80
 packages, and still no scheme to name them. :-)

Don't forget compiling for multiple architectures.  That adds more
options -- and, unlike some of those other options, compiling for
different architectures is often actually a mutually-exclusive option
set.

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Re: make release custom kernel conf not found

2012-01-31 Thread Rob Farmer
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.com wrote:
 Thanks Rob...

 I put the kernel conf file in the source tree as opposed to linking to
 it and it certainly did compile the custom kernel.

 What confuses me (not that I expect you to have the answer) is that
 Chapter 9 of the handbook has a tip that recommends keeping the kernel
 config in /root/kernels and symlinking to it from the source tree.  If
 it doesn't work, why is there a tip recommending this practice?


I think the idea is to avoid accidentally deleting it - sometimes
people who get weird build errors are told to delete /usr/src and
/usr/obj, to make sure everything is in a consistent state.

The symlink will work fine for normal builds, which is what the
handbook covers, but the release building process installs a new copy
of the base system and then runs within it, to try and ensure a
completely stock environment. Any changes you made to the main system
(make.conf, custom kernels, etc.) are intentionally ignored. As Lowell
points out, the right way to do this is make either a patch or a
script to add your changes and have the release framework apply it.
Copying it in is the quick and dirty fix.

-- 
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Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD

2012-01-31 Thread Eduardo Morras

At 00:45 31/01/2012, RW wrote:


Making it work like Ubuntu would need a lot more hardware and a lot
more work from port maintainers to support branching the ports tree. At
the moment there aren't really enough to maintain one tree.


Making a resume/summary of the thread; more hardware, time and people 
are needed to maintain a package system up-to-date. I have a free 
server (amd64 freebsd8.2p6), if i built all packages with their 
standard options, that's without make config, Can i upload them to 
the official package ftp? Should i make my own un-official ftp 
package server to allow others download them?


Perhaps it's not clear, this answer has ironic mode off, joking mode 
off and i want to collaborate making the standard packages.


When i needed the package system? When i don't want a downtime if a 
server must be reinstalled. Compiling everything takes too much time 
for non critical ports (bash, gcc4.6, ...), even at first i pkg_add 
important apps, when everything is working, i update them by ports.


L


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Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD

2012-01-31 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 31/01/2012 09:56, Eduardo Morras wrote:
 Making a resume/summary of the thread; more hardware, time and people
 are needed to maintain a package system up-to-date. I have a free server
 (amd64 freebsd8.2p6), if i built all packages with their standard
 options, that's without make config, Can i upload them to the official
 package ftp? Should i make my own un-official ftp package server to
 allow others download them?
 
 Perhaps it's not clear, this answer has ironic mode off, joking mode off
 and i want to collaborate making the standard packages.

While your offer is made with the best of intentions, I doubt the
project would feel able take you up on it.  The problem is simply one of
security -- while crowd-sourcing package compilation would be a pretty
sweet technical solution to much of the scaling and resource cost
problems, it offers far too much opportunity for people up-to-no-good to
be able to introduce trojans, spyware and so forth.

Setting up your own package build system and ftp site -- well, there's
nothing preventing you from doing that, but again, it's a trust thing.
Unless people can believe in the provenance of the packages you provide,
it's not going to be sensible for them to download from you.  So it's
only people that know you personally, friends, relations, workmates and
people that know and trust people willing to trust you; they would be
the initial audience for your new package building and distribution
thing.  Even if you had an enormous social circle all of whom happened
to be avid FreeBSD users, I doubt that would actually provide enough
demand to make the whole venture worthwhile.

The best ways to contribute are (a) to make a donation via the FreeBSD
Foundation and (b) take up maintainership on some ports.  As ever in any
project of this type, most of the work goes through smoothly and it's
that minority of problem ports that eat up so much of the time.
Maintained ports have fewer problems.

Some of the more paranoid amongst you may be asking yourselves if, in
the light of what I say above, you really can trust packages from
anywhere other than the official ftp.freebsd.org server.  Locations like
(for example) ftp.uk.freebsd.org (which, although blessed as an official
mirror site, is run by a completely different set of people.)  The
answer is somewhere on the 'probably -- maybe' continuum.   Can you
actually trust the people running the mirror site?  (In the case of
ftp.uk.freebsd.org, as of a day or so ago that's the UK mirror service
run by the University of Kent who are clearly of unimpeachable
reputation.)  Implementing digital signatures on packages would go a
long way to removing that uncertainty.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Port upgrade change ownership of port installation directory and files

2012-01-31 Thread Damien Fleuriot


On 1/30/12 8:31 PM, Lubomir Matousek wrote:
 
 
 


 On 1/30/12 2:24 PM, Lubomir Matousek wrote:
 I changed apache default user from www to wbserv.

 I changed also file ownership from www to wbserv.


 Is there any way for portupgrade, that the ownership of installed port
 files remains the same? It means wbserv?


 
 On 30.1.2012 14:52, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
 
 You'll want to be more specific, what files do you refer to ?

 If you're talking about the binaries and modules, they're owned by root
 so this is a non issue.

 If you're talking about the configuration files, they're also owned by
 root.

 If you're talking about SSL certificates you've installed them yourself
 and a portupgrade will not change their perms.

 If you're talking about logfiles, these are your responsibility and,
 again, the port won't change them.

 Last, if you're talking about your HTML/php/whatever files, these are
 also your responsiblity and untouched by the port.
 
 
 Sorry for not being more specific.
 
 After port upgrade
 portupgrade -rR squirrealmail
 
 I have to
 chown -R wbserv:wbserv /var/spool/sqirrelmail
 
 Or after upgrade of postfixadmin:
  portupfrade -rR postfixadmin
 I have to change perms again:
  chown -R wbserv:wbserv /usr/local/www/postfixadmin
 
 What is the best aprroach? To specify correct file ownership at
 make.conf? How can I do that?
 
 Lubomir


As pointed out by RW, make use of the WWWOWN and WWWGRP environment
variables in your /etc/make.conf , that should solve the problem for you.

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[Fwd: [HEADSUP][CFT] pkgng beta1 is out]

2012-01-31 Thread Michel Talon
having a real sat solver for the dependency tree.  Currently we have a
really simple and minimalistic solver which works well but if we can to go
to an even finer package management we would need a real solver.

Please may you expand on what you really mean here? I was under the impression
that the only problem was to provide a total order on ports compatible to the
partial order fixed by dependency, and this is very easy. There is for example 
one
routine to do that in portupgrade. Or do you have something more sophisticated 
in mind?



--

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ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr





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Serial Console activation causes system freeze (8.2-Stable)

2012-01-31 Thread BBLister

Greetings,


Ι have followed the guide about setting up the serial console:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ppp-and-slip.html

Ι have done this many times with no problems to other servers.

For the first time I have a very strange problem in this particular server: 
After seeing some kernel messages, Ι see garbage characters, the machine hangs 
completely and only a hard reset can be done. 
The garbage characters appear just before the uart initilization.

The last messages that I can see in the serial console:



atapci2: Intel 6300ESB SATA150 controller port 
0xa800-0xa807,0xa480-0xa483,0xa400-0xa407,0xa080-0xa083,0xa000-0xa00f irq 18 at 
device 31.2 on pci0
atapci2: [ITHREAD]
ata5: ATA channel 0 on atapci2
ata5: [ITHREAD]
ata6: ATA channel 1 on atapci2
ata6: [ITHREAD]
pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
atrtc0: AT realtime clock port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on acpi0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
�� ��?�  ��?� ��?� 
��?M/���~/�~���M/�~���M�{�{�?'�'?���?u��u~^D

== at this point the whole machine freezes! (notice that
in the previous case the kernel hangs before any getty is initialized)


If I disable the serial console in loader.conf and boot.config then I have 
normal boot:


atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
uart0: 16550 or compatible port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0
uart0: [FILTER]
uart1: 16550 or compatible port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0
uart1: [FILTER]



Details:
FreeBSD unix3.icte.uowm.gr 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #1: Mon Jan 16 
15:54:50 EET 2012 root@unix_2:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/unix  amd64

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.40GHz (3391.51-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf4a  Family = f  Model = 4  Stepping = 10
  
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Features2=0x649dSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,EST,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR
  AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM
  AMD Features2=0x1LAHF
  TSC: P-state invariant
real memory  = 8589934592 (8192 MB)
avail memory = 8243875840 (7861 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: A M I  OEMAPIC 
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 1 core(s) x 2 HTT threads



Please help me...




Regards,


BB
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Re: [Fwd: [HEADSUP][CFT] pkgng beta1 is out]

2012-01-31 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:52:05AM +0100, Michel Talon wrote:
 having a real sat solver for the dependency tree.  Currently we have a
 really simple and minimalistic solver which works well but if we can to go
 to an even finer package management we would need a real solver.
 
 Please may you expand on what you really mean here? I was under the impression
 that the only problem was to provide a total order on ports compatible to the
 partial order fixed by dependency, and this is very easy. There is for 
 example one
 routine to do that in portupgrade. Or do you have something more 
 sophisticated in mind?
 

I mean something more sophisticated, the simple thing having things in the right
order is hopefuly already done in pkgng :)

I mean more something that is able to go further like resolving some conflicts
by changing the ordering automatically, like offerting the ability to depends on
provides e.g. depends on http_server instead of depending on
apache/lighttpd/nginx/thehttpyouprefer or begin able to depends on feature. An
even more.

What we have now is really enough to be able to go into a full binary world (and
it does really work nicely) but having a real complex sat solver, can help us go
forward and imagine an even better package tool.

regards,
Bapt


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Re: [Fwd: [HEADSUP][CFT] pkgng beta1 is out]

2012-01-31 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.orgwrote:

 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:52:05AM +0100, Michel Talon wrote:
  having a real sat solver for the dependency tree.  Currently we have a
  really simple and minimalistic solver which works well but if we can to
 go
  to an even finer package management we would need a real solver.
 
  Please may you expand on what you really mean here? I was under the
 impression
  that the only problem was to provide a total order on ports compatible
 to the
  partial order fixed by dependency, and this is very easy. There is for
 example one
  routine to do that in portupgrade. Or do you have something more
 sophisticated in mind?
 

 I mean something more sophisticated, the simple thing having things in the
 right
 order is hopefuly already done in pkgng :)

 I mean more something that is able to go further like resolving some
 conflicts
 by changing the ordering automatically, like offerting the ability to
 depends on
 provides e.g. depends on http_server instead of depending on
 apache/lighttpd/nginx/thehttpyouprefer or begin able to depends on
 feature. An
 even more.

 What we have now is really enough to be able to go into a full binary
 world (and
 it does really work nicely) but having a real complex sat solver, can help
 us go
 forward and imagine an even better package tool.

 regards,
 Bapt


sat solver :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZYpp#SAT_solver_integration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_satisfiability_problem
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_complexity_theory


Thank you very much .


Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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release 9.0 and fvwm

2012-01-31 Thread Dan Strick
I recently installed fvwm (i.e. /usr/ports/x11-wm/fvwm) under FreeBSD
release 9.0 and noticed some problems.  Fvwm consumes all available cpu
time.  The GoodStuff and FvwmWinList modules don't work.  Otherwise it
seems to work ok.  Has anyone noticed similar behavior?  (Is there a fix?)

The fvwm port does not seem to have changed since FreeBSD release 8.1
when it was still working correctly.

Dan Strick
mla_str...@att.net
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Re: make release custom kernel conf not found

2012-01-31 Thread Rick Miller
Thanks Rob and Lowell,

I will keep this information handy.  It was helpful.

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Rob Farmer rfar...@predatorlabs.net wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.com 
 wrote:
 Thanks Rob...

 I put the kernel conf file in the source tree as opposed to linking to
 it and it certainly did compile the custom kernel.

 What confuses me (not that I expect you to have the answer) is that
 Chapter 9 of the handbook has a tip that recommends keeping the kernel
 config in /root/kernels and symlinking to it from the source tree.  If
 it doesn't work, why is there a tip recommending this practice?


 I think the idea is to avoid accidentally deleting it - sometimes
 people who get weird build errors are told to delete /usr/src and
 /usr/obj, to make sure everything is in a consistent state.

 The symlink will work fine for normal builds, which is what the
 handbook covers, but the release building process installs a new copy
 of the base system and then runs within it, to try and ensure a
 completely stock environment. Any changes you made to the main system
 (make.conf, custom kernels, etc.) are intentionally ignored. As Lowell
 points out, the right way to do this is make either a patch or a
 script to add your changes and have the release framework apply it.
 Copying it in is the quick and dirty fix.

 --
 Rob Farmer



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Take care
Rick Miller
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Re: [Fwd: [HEADSUP][CFT] pkgng beta1 is out]

2012-01-31 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 06:06:33AM -0500, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.orgwrote:
 
  On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:52:05AM +0100, Michel Talon wrote:
   having a real sat solver for the dependency tree.  Currently we have a
   really simple and minimalistic solver which works well but if we can to
  go
   to an even finer package management we would need a real solver.
  
   Please may you expand on what you really mean here? I was under the
  impression
   that the only problem was to provide a total order on ports compatible
  to the
   partial order fixed by dependency, and this is very easy. There is for
  example one
   routine to do that in portupgrade. Or do you have something more
  sophisticated in mind?
  
 
  I mean something more sophisticated, the simple thing having things in the
  right
  order is hopefuly already done in pkgng :)
 
  I mean more something that is able to go further like resolving some
  conflicts
  by changing the ordering automatically, like offerting the ability to
  depends on
  provides e.g. depends on http_server instead of depending on
  apache/lighttpd/nginx/thehttpyouprefer or begin able to depends on
  feature. An
  even more.
 
  What we have now is really enough to be able to go into a full binary
  world (and
  it does really work nicely) but having a real complex sat solver, can help
  us go
  forward and imagine an even better package tool.
 
  regards,
  Bapt
 
 
 sat solver :
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZYpp#SAT_solver_integration
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_satisfiability_problem
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_complexity_theory

wow.. that's hardcore computer science.
You mean something like this:

http://minisat.se/
http://www.st.ewi.tudelft.nl/sat/march_dl.php

but BSD licensed?

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Room 2.6, Queen's Building
Mech Eng Dept
Bristol University
University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944
Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423
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bash LC_COLLATE or LC_ALL set “C” not sort in dictionary order.

2012-01-31 Thread Edward Martinez




Hi,

Been trying to get BASH to sort set characters in  dictionary order.
   I typed locale and it shows LC_COLLATE and LC_ALL are set to C 
thought that was enough to work,
   however when i type metacharacters:  set character; any character, 
something like this:


   ls  [a-cx-y]*

bash does not sort in dictionary order; file   Binarc does not  
list.


Am I leaving something out?




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Problem with auditd into jail

2012-01-31 Thread Vitaly Nikitin

Hello!

I try to start service auditd into jail.
I permit the device audit from the parent OS, everything else is limited.
When I start auditd, I see the message: Error setting audit stat.

What steps do I need to do and what permission (perhaps via sysctl) I 
must to give, In order to start the service auditd inside jail?
Maybe I can to log developments into jail through auditd started in the 
parent system?

Please help me.

Thanks in advance.

Operation System: 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD
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Re: [Fwd: [HEADSUP][CFT] pkgng beta1 is out]

2012-01-31 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.ukwrote:

 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 06:06:33AM -0500, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org
 wrote:
 
   On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:52:05AM +0100, Michel Talon wrote:
having a real sat solver for the dependency tree.  Currently we
 have a
really simple and minimalistic solver which works well but if we
 can to
   go
to an even finer package management we would need a real solver.
   
Please may you expand on what you really mean here? I was under the
   impression
that the only problem was to provide a total order on ports
 compatible
   to the
partial order fixed by dependency, and this is very easy. There is
 for
   example one
routine to do that in portupgrade. Or do you have something more
   sophisticated in mind?
   
  
   I mean something more sophisticated, the simple thing having things in
 the
   right
   order is hopefuly already done in pkgng :)
  
   I mean more something that is able to go further like resolving some
   conflicts
   by changing the ordering automatically, like offerting the ability to
   depends on
   provides e.g. depends on http_server instead of depending on
   apache/lighttpd/nginx/thehttpyouprefer or begin able to depends on
   feature. An
   even more.
  
   What we have now is really enough to be able to go into a full binary
   world (and
   it does really work nicely) but having a real complex sat solver, can
 help
   us go
   forward and imagine an even better package tool.
  
   regards,
   Bapt
  
 
  sat solver :
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZYpp#SAT_solver_integration
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_satisfiability_problem
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_complexity_theory

 wow.. that's hardcore computer science.
 You mean something like this:

 http://minisat.se/
 http://www.st.ewi.tudelft.nl/sat/march_dl.php

 but BSD licensed?

 --
 Anton Shterenlikht
 Room 2.6, Queen's Building
 Mech Eng Dept
 Bristol University
 University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
 Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944
 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423





Yes .

Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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Re: [Fwd: [HEADSUP][CFT] pkgng beta1 is out]

2012-01-31 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 07:18:59AM -0500, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Anton Shterenlikht 
 me...@bristol.ac.ukwrote:
 
  On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 06:06:33AM -0500, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
   On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org
  wrote:
  
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:52:05AM +0100, Michel Talon wrote:
 having a real sat solver for the dependency tree.  Currently we
  have a
 really simple and minimalistic solver which works well but if we
  can to
go
 to an even finer package management we would need a real solver.

 Please may you expand on what you really mean here? I was under the
impression
 that the only problem was to provide a total order on ports
  compatible
to the
 partial order fixed by dependency, and this is very easy. There is
  for
example one
 routine to do that in portupgrade. Or do you have something more
sophisticated in mind?

   
I mean something more sophisticated, the simple thing having things in
  the
right
order is hopefuly already done in pkgng :)
   
I mean more something that is able to go further like resolving some
conflicts
by changing the ordering automatically, like offerting the ability to
depends on
provides e.g. depends on http_server instead of depending on
apache/lighttpd/nginx/thehttpyouprefer or begin able to depends on
feature. An
even more.
   
What we have now is really enough to be able to go into a full binary
world (and
it does really work nicely) but having a real complex sat solver, can
  help
us go
forward and imagine an even better package tool.
   
regards,
Bapt
   
  
   sat solver :
  
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZYpp#SAT_solver_integration
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_satisfiability_problem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_complexity_theory
 
  wow.. that's hardcore computer science.
  You mean something like this:
 
  http://minisat.se/
  http://www.st.ewi.tudelft.nl/sat/march_dl.php
 
  but BSD licensed?
 
  --
  Anton Shterenlikht
  Room 2.6, Queen's Building
  Mech Eng Dept
  Bristol University
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 Thank you very much .
 
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Thanks

To more examples which are BSD LIcense:
https://github.com/openSUSE/sat-solver
https://github.com/openSUSE/libsolv

regards,
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FreeBSD license vs /usr/bin/true license

2012-01-31 Thread vermaden
FreeBSD, as specified here [1] uses 2-clause BSD license,
but /usr/bin/true [2] (as empty as it is) uses something like
3-clause BSD license, is that desired?

[1] http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html
[2] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/usr.bin/true/true.c

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Re: bash LC_COLLATE or LC_ALL set “C” not sort in dictionary order.

2012-01-31 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Tue Jan 31 05:45:47 2012
 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:45:36 -0800
 From: Edward Martinez eam1edw...@gmail.com
 To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: bash  LC_COLLATE or LC_ALL set =?windows-1252?q?=93C=94_not__sort?=
  =?windows-1252?q?_in_dictionary_order=2E?=




  Hi,

  Been trying to get BASH to sort set characters in  dictionary order.
 I typed locale and it shows LC_COLLATE and LC_ALL are set to C 
 thought that was enough to work,
 however when i type metacharacters:  set character; any character, 
 something like this:

 ls  [a-cx-y]*

  bash does not sort in dictionary order; file   Binarc does not  
 list.


*OF*COURSE* it doesn't.  Unix is _case_sensitive_.  You specified a lower-
case only (in the C locale) pattern.  Naturally, it doesn't match a file 
with an upper-case character in it.

Note: in the 'C' locale, characters are sorted on the underlying byte value.
Thus you will get all the upper-case matches before any lower-case match.

To get upper-and-lower case files in the C locale, you will have to use:
  ls [A-CX-Ya-cx-y]* 

IF you speciy a different charset for collating, you _may_ get upper/lower
case characters sorted adjacently.  See the specifications for the charset
in question.

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Re: [Fwd: [HEADSUP][CFT] pkgng beta1 is out]

2012-01-31 Thread Michel Talon

Le 31 janv. 2012 à 13:22, Baptiste Daroussin a écrit :

 
 To more examples which are BSD LIcense:
 https://github.com/openSUSE/sat-solver
 https://github.com/openSUSE/libsolv

OK, i am seeing what you have in mind looking at the SUSE program.
For example the following comment in solver_run_sat
/*
   * here's the main loop:
   * 1) propagate new decisions (only needed once)
   * 2) fulfill jobs
   * 3) try to keep installed packages
   * 4) fulfill all unresolved rules
   * 5) install recommended packages
   * 6) minimalize solution if we had choices
   * if we encounter a problem, we rewind to a safe level and restart
   * with step 1
   */
gives an idea of the aim of this analysis.

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freebsd-update; What did I do?

2012-01-31 Thread Martin McCormick
I started to run freebsd-update to upgrade a 8.x system
to 9.0-RELEASE

# freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade

Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found.
Fetching metadata signature for 8.2-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... done.
Fetching metadata index... done.
Inspecting system... done.

The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed:
kernel/generic src/base src/bin src/cddl src/contrib src/crypto src/etc
src/games src/gnu src/include src/krb5 src/lib src/libexec src/release
src/rescue src/sbin src/secure src/share src/sys src/tools src/ubin
src/usbin world/base world/dict world/doc world/info world/manpages
world/proflibs

The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed:
world/catpages world/games world/lib32

Does this look reasonable (y/n)? yes

Fetching metadata signature for 9.0-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... done.
Fetching metadata index... done.

The update metadata is correctly signed, but
failed an integrity check.
Cowardly refusing to proceed any further.

#

What is the next step, here?

Thank you.
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Re: FreeBSD license vs /usr/bin/true license

2012-01-31 Thread Arthur Chance

On 01/31/12 12:55, vermaden wrote:

FreeBSD, as specified here [1] uses 2-clause BSD license,
but /usr/bin/true [2] (as empty as it is) uses something like
3-clause BSD license, is that desired?

[1] http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html
[2] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/usr.bin/true/true.c


By coincidence, this link turned up on Hacker News Daily this morning. 
It's about the copyright on the true command.


http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/humor/ATT_Copyright_true.html
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Re: freebsd-update; What did I do?

2012-01-31 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 31/01/2012 13:55, Martin McCormick wrote:
   I started to run freebsd-update to upgrade a 8.x system
 to 9.0-RELEASE
 
 # freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade
 
 Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found.
 Fetching metadata signature for 8.2-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... done.
 Fetching metadata index... done.
 Inspecting system... done.
 
 The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed:
 kernel/generic src/base src/bin src/cddl src/contrib src/crypto src/etc
 src/games src/gnu src/include src/krb5 src/lib src/libexec src/release
 src/rescue src/sbin src/secure src/share src/sys src/tools src/ubin
 src/usbin world/base world/dict world/doc world/info world/manpages
 world/proflibs
 
 The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed:
 world/catpages world/games world/lib32
 
 Does this look reasonable (y/n)? yes
 
 Fetching metadata signature for 9.0-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... done.
 Fetching metadata index... done.
 
 The update metadata is correctly signed, but
 failed an integrity check.
 Cowardly refusing to proceed any further.
 
 #
 
   What is the next step, here?

That's a known problem and fixable by first updating your 8.2-RELEASE
machine to the latest patch level before trying the update to 9.0

http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-12:01.freebsd-update.asc

Cheers,

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zip to exe utility

2012-01-31 Thread Graeme Dargie
Hi All

I have spent a good while looking for a utility that needs to perform a very 
specific task, I need to take a zip file and convert it in to self-extracting 
archive that can be distributed to Windows client machines.

There are some specific requirements that it has to fulfil:-

Specify the extraction location when the file is created e.g. e:\foldername
The extraction process needs to be able to operate silently with no end user 
interaction.

I have had a trawl through the archiver ports and nothing obvious stood out to 
me as fitting the bill.

Regards
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Re: zip to exe utility

2012-01-31 Thread Paul Macdonald

On 31/01/2012 15:02, Graeme Dargie wrote:

Hi All

I have spent a good while looking for a utility that needs to perform a very 
specific task, I need to take a zip file and convert it in to self-extracting 
archive that can be distributed to Windows client machines.

There are some specific requirements that it has to fulfil:-

Specify the extraction location when the file is created e.g. e:\foldername
The extraction process needs to be able to operate silently with no end user 
interaction.

I have had a trawl through the archiver ports and nothing obvious stood out to 
me as fitting the bill.
winrar can do this i think so might be worth a look at 
/usr/ports/archivers/rar

(or use winrar on windows)

Paul.


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Re: zip to exe utility

2012-01-31 Thread legolas
 Hi All

 I have spent a good while looking for a utility that needs to perform a
 very specific task, I need to take a zip file and convert it in to
 self-extracting archive that can be distributed to Windows client
 machines.

 There are some specific requirements that it has to fulfil:-

 Specify the extraction location when the file is created e.g.
 e:\foldername
 The extraction process needs to be able to operate silently with no end
 user interaction.

 I have had a trawl through the archiver ports and nothing obvious stood
 out to me as fitting the bill.

Not from the ports tree, but seems to work:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/818482/creating-a-self-extracting-zip-archive-on-a-linux-box


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Re: zip to exe utility

2012-01-31 Thread legolas
 Hi All

 I have spent a good while looking for a utility that needs to perform a
 very specific task, I need to take a zip file and convert it in to
 self-extracting archive that can be distributed to Windows client
 machines.

 There are some specific requirements that it has to fulfil:-

 Specify the extraction location when the file is created e.g.
 e:\foldername
 The extraction process needs to be able to operate silently with no end
 user interaction.

 I have had a trawl through the archiver ports and nothing obvious stood
 out to me as fitting the bill.

 Not from the ports tree, but seems to work:
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/818482/creating-a-self-extracting-zip-archive-on-a-linux-box

Posted to soon:
http://www.freshports.org/archivers/unzip/



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Re: FreeBSD license vs /usr/bin/true license

2012-01-31 Thread Joshua Isom
You might have to re-write it from scratch.  It's still copyrighted by 
the university.  I'd say write it in c++ to dispel all doubt that you 
didn't copy.  Then true and groff will be c++.


There's still software in the tree that uses the four clause license. 
But because of the advertising clause, you can't really talk about it or 
else you have to list it.


On 1/31/2012 8:29 AM, Arthur Chance wrote:

On 01/31/12 12:55, vermaden wrote:

FreeBSD, as specified here [1] uses 2-clause BSD license,
but /usr/bin/true [2] (as empty as it is) uses something like
3-clause BSD license, is that desired?

[1] http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html
[2]
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/usr.bin/true/true.c


By coincidence, this link turned up on Hacker News Daily this morning.
It's about the copyright on the true command.

http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/humor/ATT_Copyright_true.html
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Re: freebsd-update; What did I do?

2012-01-31 Thread Martin McCormick
Matthew Seaman writes:
 That's a known problem and fixable by first updating your 8.2-RELEASE
 machine to the latest patch level before trying the update to 9.0

It appears to be working now. Thank you.
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Re: release 9.0 and fvwm

2012-01-31 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 03:12:50AM -0800, Dan Strick wrote:
 I recently installed fvwm (i.e. /usr/ports/x11-wm/fvwm) under FreeBSD
 release 9.0 and noticed some problems.  Fvwm consumes all available cpu
 time.  The GoodStuff and FvwmWinList modules don't work.  Otherwise it
 seems to work ok.  Has anyone noticed similar behavior?  (Is there a fix?)

Fvwm1 is ancient and no longer supported upstream (see
http://www.fvwm.org/download/). Try fvwm2 [/usr/ports/x11-wm/fvwm2]
instead. I've got that working fine here on 9.0-RELEASE amd64.

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Re: bash LC_COLLATE or LC_ALL set “C” not sort in dictionary order.

2012-01-31 Thread Edward Martinez

On 01/31/12 06:31, Robert Bonomi wrote:

 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Tue Jan 31 05:45:47 2012
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:45:36 -0800
From: Edward Martinezeam1edw...@gmail.com
To: FreeBSD Questionsfreebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: bash  LC_COLLATE or LC_ALL set =?windows-1252?q?=93C=94_not__sort?=
  =?windows-1252?q?_in_dictionary_order=2E?=




  Hi,

  Been trying to get BASH to sort set characters in  dictionary order.
 I typed locale and it shows LC_COLLATE and LC_ALL are set to C
thought that was enough to work,
 however when i type metacharacters:  set character; any character,
something like this:

 ls  [a-cx-y]*

  bash does not sort in dictionary order; file   Binarc does not
list.


*OF*COURSE* it doesn't.  Unix is _case_sensitive_.  You specified a lower-
case only (in the C locale) pattern.  Naturally, it doesn't match a file
with an upper-case character in it.

Note: in the 'C' locale, characters are sorted on the underlying byte value.
Thus you will get all the upper-case matches before any lower-case match.

To get upper-and-lower case files in the C locale, you will have to use:
   ls [A-CX-Ya-cx-y]*

IF you speciy a different charset for collating, you _may_ get upper/lower
case characters sorted adjacently.  See the specifications for the charset
in question.



Thanks for reply!

 I meant LC_COLLATE being  set to en_US.UTF-8 not C.  linux and 
solaris  shows both  upper and lowercase when set characters like 
[a-cx-y] and others   are used. when LC_COLLATE is set to  en_US.UTF-8.
 I thought it could be also done in FreeBSD's  bash  when   
LC_COLLATE  is  set to en_US.UTF-8


in linux LC_COLLATE is set to en_US,UTF-8
eam@localhost ~/testdir $ locale
LANG=
LC_CTYPE=POSIX
LC_NUMERIC=POSIX
LC_TIME=POSIX
*LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8*
LC_MONETARY=POSIX
LC_MESSAGES=POSIX
LC_PAPER=POSIX
LC_NAME=POSIX
LC_ADDRESS=POSIX
LC_TELEPHONE=POSIX
LC_MEASUREMENT=POSIX
LC_IDENTIFICATION=POSIX
LC_ALL=


And when i type the following it shows both:

eam@localhost ~/testdir $ ls [a-cx-y]*
bincar  Bincar

eam@localhost ~/testdir $ ls [a-z]*
bincar  Bincar  file  File  zcar









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Re: bash LC_COLLATE or LC_ALL set “C” not sort in dictionary order.

2012-01-31 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:05:57 -0800
Edward Martinez articulated:

   I meant LC_COLLATE being  set to en_US.UTF-8 not C.  linux and 
 solaris  shows both  upper and lowercase when set characters like 
 [a-cx-y] and others   are used. when LC_COLLATE is set to
 en_US.UTF-8. I thought it could be also done in FreeBSD's  bash
 when LC_COLLATE  is  set to en_US.UTF-8

What version of Bash?

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Support Issue 164620

2012-01-31 Thread Morris Allen


To whom it may concern:

 

  My question is?  So is this problem in the process of being looked
at?  Or am I being directed to a different group in the BSD support staff?

 

Morris Allen (Moe)

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Thank you very much for your problem report.

It has the internal identification `i386/164620'.

The individual assigned to look at your

report is: freebsd-i386. 

 

You can access the state of your problem report at any time via this link:

 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=164620

 

Category:   i386

Responsible:freebsd-i386

Synopsis:   Raid 1 issues

Arrival-Date:   Mon Jan 30 06:00:18 UTC 2012

 

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Re: Support Issue 164620

2012-01-31 Thread Nikola Pavlović
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 06:28:25PM -0600, Morris Allen wrote:
 
 
 To whom it may concern:
 
  
 
   My question is?  So is this problem in the process of being looked
 at?  Or am I being directed to a different group in the BSD support staff?
 
  

It's an automatic notice to let you know the issue tracker has received
the problem report.  So hopefully, someone will look at it.

 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=164620
 

It seems you just pasted the text from the docs (Handbook
probably) on GEOM RAID 1, without any info as to what is the problem
you're having.  Not to mention the wrong Environment entry etc.

I think you would benefit from reading this:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/index.html



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Re: Support Issue 164620

2012-01-31 Thread Yuri Pankov
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 02:18:46AM +0100, Nikola Pavlović wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 06:28:25PM -0600, Morris Allen wrote:
  
  To whom it may concern:
  
My question is?  So is this problem in the process of being looked
  at?  Or am I being directed to a different group in the BSD support staff?
  
   
 
 It's an automatic notice to let you know the issue tracker has received
 the problem report.  So hopefully, someone will look at it.
 
  
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=164620
  
 
 It seems you just pasted the text from the docs (Handbook
 probably) on GEOM RAID 1, without any info as to what is the problem
 you're having.  Not to mention the wrong Environment entry etc.
 
 I think you would benefit from reading this:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/index.html

And there are no support issues, PRs are for reporting real problems.
If you need to ask something, just use this list instead.


Yuri


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no borders with firefox, terminal (xfce on FreeBSD 9.0 amd64 STABLE)

2012-01-31 Thread Antonio Olivares
Dear folks,

I am having some difficultites when starting up the desktop.  The
desktop starts up automagically and when I start firefox or terminal
there is no border :(.  Upon logging out and unchecking Save Settings,
and relogging back in the borders appear.  I have had this happen once
on one of my FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 boxes, but I fixed it somehow with the
settings.  Now I can't find the settings that cause this.  All I know
is that if I log out and un check save settings, the border appear
again and all is well.  But if I reselect the save settings box, and
log out and back in, the borderless windows appear :(  How can I
troubleshoot this?  Any ideas, suggestions, comments are greatly
appreciated.

Regards,

Antonio
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Re: no borders with firefox, terminal (xfce on FreeBSD 9.0 amd64 STABLE)

2012-01-31 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

I did not see which window manager or desktop you are using.

Erich

On Wednesday 01 February 2012 10:45:26 Antonio Olivares wrote:
 Dear folks,
 
 I am having some difficultites when starting up the desktop.  The
 desktop starts up automagically and when I start firefox or terminal
 there is no border :(.  Upon logging out and unchecking Save Settings,
 and relogging back in the borders appear.  I have had this happen once
 on one of my FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 boxes, but I fixed it somehow with the
 settings.  Now I can't find the settings that cause this.  All I know
 is that if I log out and un check save settings, the border appear
 again and all is well.  But if I reselect the save settings box, and
 log out and back in, the borderless windows appear :(  How can I
 troubleshoot this?  Any ideas, suggestions, comments are greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 
 Antonio
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Securely sharing directories between jails

2012-01-31 Thread Stas Verberkt
L.S.,

I want to set up my system in a way where applications are clustered
over jails, e.g. a httpd, smbd and dbmsd jail. However, in most cases I
need to share data over the jails, which is stored on the host.
Often, nullfs and mounting ro is suitable, but I need write access in
some cases. As nullfs rw over multiple jails can be considered insecure,
I was wondering what would be a secure way.

The only thing I could come up with was having both a NFS server and
client running on the host and mounting such that all access is mapped
to an account with less privileges. However, it seems like a waste to
NFS with yourself. Thus, are there any better ways to achieve this?

(I also thought of using nosuid flags, but I'm not sure if this is
enough.)

Kind regards,

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