Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:21:59 +0100 Ouyang Xueyu articulated: Hello, I have Freebsd 8.2 and CUPS installed and try to print on my Brother MFC 7840W printer. The printer is accessible by a static IP address, is configured in CUPS but everytime I only get blank pages when I'm trying to print. Does anybody know a solution for this behaviour? I have the same problem with a different Brother printer. I have used every PPD file I could fine including the one from new Win7 machine. You did not state what program(s) you are attempting to print from. If given the option, choose the LPR option in the menu. It works for me. I have supplied every piece of information I could find on this problem to the CUPS people without getting any useful results. It seems, and this is just a guess -- but a good one in my opinion -- that it is a FreeBSD phenomenon. Brother does supply driver setups for Linux but that is about it. Good luck, I just plan gave up. The time and trouble involved in getting it to work was simply not worth the effort involved. By the way, what CUPS version? -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ A bird in the bush usually has a friend in there with him. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Add to vendors list
Dear Sir/Madam, We are a dutch hosting company that specializes in FreeBSD (almost only). Formally know as Parc Productions, we now changed our name to Vellance. With this we would like to be added to your vendor list overview: http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html Could you please tell us what to do to make this happen. With kind regards, Matthijs Sales manager at Vellance -- Matthijs Openneer matthijs.openn...@vellance.com Vellance Valkenburgerstraat 216 1011 ND Amsterdam T: +31 (0)20 489 24 55 F: +31 (0)20 489 24 58 W: http://www.vellance.com De informatie m.b.t. deze email kan vertrouwelijk van aard zijn. Het is alleen bedoeld voor de geadresseerde van deze email. Wanneer u dit niet bent brengt u ons dan aub op de hoogte en verwijder dit document. Aan deze email kunnen geen rechten worden ontleend. Fouten en/of wijzigingen voorbehouden. © Vellance B.V. The information in this document is confidential. It is intended only for the use of the intended recipient of this mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us and delete this document. No rights can be derived from this email. All rights reserved. © Vellance B.V. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Add to vendors list
With this we would like to be added to your vendor list overview: http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html Could you please tell us what to do to make this happen. Submission information can be found on the top of that page: For your convenience, we have divided our growing commercial listing into several sections. If your company supports a FreeBSD-compatible product or service that should be added to this page, please fill out a problem report [http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html] for category www. Submissions should be in HTML and a medium-sized paragraph in length. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS
On 02/06/12 22:21, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:21:59 +0100 Ouyang Xueyu articulated: Hello, I have Freebsd 8.2 and CUPS installed and try to print on my Brother MFC 7840W printer. The printer is accessible by a static IP address, is configured in CUPS but everytime I only get blank pages when I'm trying to print. Does anybody know a solution for this behaviour? I have the same problem with a different Brother printer. I have used every PPD file I could fine including the one from new Win7 machine. You did not state what program(s) you are attempting to print from. If given the option, choose the LPR option in the menu. It works for me. I have supplied every piece of information I could find on this problem to the CUPS people without getting any useful results. It seems, and this is just a guess -- but a good one in my opinion -- that it is a FreeBSD phenomenon. Brother does supply driver setups for Linux but that is about it. Good luck, I just plan gave up. The time and trouble involved in getting it to work was simply not worth the effort involved. By the way, what CUPS version? If you can supply the debug info then we can have a crack at what exactly is happening. Personally I come from the print industry and have significant experience with printers and drivers (and other factors), I'm sure there are others in the same position. The more information there is available, the more eyes on it, and the sooner a fix could come along. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Add to vendors list
On 2012.02.06 04:02, Matthijs Openneer wrote: With this we would like to be added to your vendor list overview: http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html Could you please tell us what to do to make this happen. As it states within the 2nd paragraph on that page, fill out a PR (the 'problem report' link is within the paragraph) and select 'www' as the category. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
pxeboot.bs and vlan tagging
Hi All, We are PXE booting into FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE to perform system builds. The pxeboot.bs file was recompiled with TFTP support. 8.2-RELEASE builds were working fine until we attempted a build on bare metal in an environment that utilizes vlan tagging. When the system loaded the pxeboot.bs file it prompted that a disk containing the mfsroot.gz be inserted. I have a couple of questions that I am hoping I can use to glean a proper solution: 1) Does the 8.2-RELEASE pxeboot.bs source code support use of vlan tagging? 2) Can I get vlan tagging support with newer 8.2 code? 3) Will the 9.0-RELEASE code have better support for vlan tagging and can I use it to build an 8.2-RELEASE system? -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pxeboot.bs and vlan tagging
On 06/02/2012 16:35, Rick Miller wrote: We are PXE booting into FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE to perform system builds. The pxeboot.bs file was recompiled with TFTP support. 8.2-RELEASE builds were working fine until we attempted a build on bare metal in an environment that utilizes vlan tagging. When the system loaded the pxeboot.bs file it prompted that a disk containing the mfsroot.gz be inserted. Hi, a few questions: 1) do you use tftp or nfs? if you built pxeboot with tftp, did you also build the kernel with tftp? I assume that you want to use tftp since you fetch a memory file system as root device. 2) do you fetch the kernel successfully? When using tftp, The kernel and kernel modules are fetched before the memory file system, so do pxeboot fetch the kernel but not the mfsroot? The reason for these questions is that your problem may be with the kernel and kernel modules and not pxeboot. Just to be sure. I have a couple of questions that I am hoping I can use to glean a proper solution: 1) Does the 8.2-RELEASE pxeboot.bs source code support use of vlan tagging? 2) Can I get vlan tagging support with newer 8.2 code? 3) Will the 9.0-RELEASE code have better support for vlan tagging and can I use it to build an 8.2-RELEASE system? I did a grep in the source and it seems there is a kernel module for vlan tagging, if you load the kernel succesfully it may be a question of getting that module loaded as well, or rebuild the kernel. But I can't give a better answer. My best guess is not to rely on vlan tagging unless you can configure that on the hardware. Or, normally there is a default vlan that corresponds to no tag. If you can configure that for pxe and use tagging for the other networks. BR, Erik -- M: +34 666 334 818 T: +34 915 211 157 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: USB 3 / eSATA support
On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:49:11 -0500 Dean E. Weimer wrote: On 03.02.2012 21:36, RW wrote: Just in case you aren't aware, you don't necessarily need an eSATA card. You can get eSATA back-plates that plug into spare SATA connections on your motherboard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org That the board has plenty of, how does that work with removing the drives? Does it require a reboot? AFAIK there's no difference between SATA and eSATA above the physical layer. It's just cabling and some minor voltage range changes (which are designed to work SATA to eSATA, or eSATA to eSATA). Hot-swapping is a SATA feature supported under AHCI. You probably need to switch this on in the BIOS. Some legacy OSs don't support it, so IDE is usually the default. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pxeboot.bs and vlan tagging
See my responses inline... On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Erik Nørgaard norga...@locolomo.org wrote: On 06/02/2012 16:35, Rick Miller wrote: We are PXE booting into FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE to perform system builds. The pxeboot.bs file was recompiled with TFTP support. 8.2-RELEASE builds were working fine until we attempted a build on bare metal in an environment that utilizes vlan tagging. When the system loaded the pxeboot.bs file it prompted that a disk containing the mfsroot.gz be inserted. Hi, a few questions: 1) do you use tftp or nfs? if you built pxeboot with tftp, did you also build the kernel with tftp? pxeboot.bs was compiled with TFTP enabled. We made 3 modifications to the kernel not related to tftp. One change was to the NIC source code to improve small packet performance, we compiled a custom kernel that disabled FLOWTABLE and enabled ROUTETABLES. TFTP is the intent for PXE, we did not want to rely on NFS. For the remainder of the install, we've written code into sysinstall to support pure HTTP installs. 2) do you fetch the kernel successfully? When using tftp, The kernel and kernel modules are fetched before the memory file system, so do pxeboot fetch the kernel but not the mfsroot? The reason for these questions is that your problem may be with the kernel and kernel modules and not pxeboot. Just to be sure. I see what you are saying. We will have to look at the packet captures to make that determination. I have a couple of questions that I am hoping I can use to glean a proper solution: 1) Does the 8.2-RELEASE pxeboot.bs source code support use of vlan tagging? 2) Can I get vlan tagging support with newer 8.2 code? 3) Will the 9.0-RELEASE code have better support for vlan tagging and can I use it to build an 8.2-RELEASE system? I did a grep in the source and it seems there is a kernel module for vlan tagging, if you load the kernel succesfully it may be a question of getting that module loaded as well, or rebuild the kernel. But I can't give a better answer. My best guess is not to rely on vlan tagging unless you can configure that on the hardware. Or, normally there is a default vlan that corresponds to no tag. If you can configure that for pxe and use tagging for the other networks. Thanks for this information, it has given me some other things to think about and could potentially lead to a proper solution. -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pxeboot.bs and vlan tagging
On 06/02/2012 17:11, Rick Miller wrote: See my responses inline... On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Erik Nørgaardnorga...@locolomo.org wrote: On 06/02/2012 16:35, Rick Miller wrote: We are PXE booting into FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE to perform system builds. The pxeboot.bs file was recompiled with TFTP support. 8.2-RELEASE builds were working fine until we attempted a build on bare metal in an environment that utilizes vlan tagging. When the system loaded the pxeboot.bs file it prompted that a disk containing the mfsroot.gz be inserted. Hi, a few questions: 1) do you use tftp or nfs? if you built pxeboot with tftp, did you also build the kernel with tftp? pxeboot.bs was compiled with TFTP enabled. We made 3 modifications to the kernel not related to tftp. One change was to the NIC source code to improve small packet performance, we compiled a custom kernel that disabled FLOWTABLE and enabled ROUTETABLES. TFTP is the intent for PXE, we did not want to rely on NFS. For the remainder of the install, we've written code into sysinstall to support pure HTTP installs. 2) do you fetch the kernel successfully? When using tftp, The kernel and kernel modules are fetched before the memory file system, so do pxeboot fetch the kernel but not the mfsroot? The reason for these questions is that your problem may be with the kernel and kernel modules and not pxeboot. Just to be sure. I see what you are saying. We will have to look at the packet captures to make that determination. There used to be some kernel options in older versions but I think the necessity for these were removed with 7.0. Can't find them right now. Also, there is a trick when you want to use tftp, by default the kernel will try nfs if it has been built with nfs code, so check for references to nfs. The generic kernel is built with with the option options NFSCL options NFSD options NFSLOCKD options NFS_ROOT these should be disabled. Thanks for this information, it has given me some other things to think about and could potentially lead to a proper solution. My approach to this is to create a closed network with one server providing all the necessary services (dhcp, tftp and ftp/http) as well as a local mirror with all the required files for installation. If you have a lot of servers, it makes no sense that each sould fetch packages from the public mirrors, hence for installation there should be no need for access to external networks. If you do this you can configure your switches accordingly without any need for vlan tagging. BR, Erik -- M: +34 666 334 818 T: +34 915 211 157 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pxeboot.bs and vlan tagging
2) do you fetch the kernel successfully? When using tftp, The kernel and kernel modules are fetched before the memory file system, so do pxeboot fetch the kernel but not the mfsroot? The reason for these questions is that your problem may be with the kernel and kernel modules and not pxeboot. Just to be sure. I see what you are saying. We will have to look at the packet captures to make that determination. The target system loads pxeboot.bs and consequently requests the following files: /boot/boot.4th (which it does not find) /boot/loader.rc /boot/loader.4th /boot/support.4th /boot/defaults/loader.conf /boot/device.hints /boot/loader.conf It is at this point where the failure occurs. The contents of loader.conf are: mfsroot_load=YES mfsroot_type=mfs_root mfsroot_name=/boot/mfsroot Does this seem consistent with what you were theorizing that it's the kernel that has the problem with vlan tagging and not pxeboot.bs? -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Multiple errors on server -- Where do I start looking?
I've run into some error messages on my server that are beyond my skill level of interpreting, so I'm hoping some of you can help me out. I've already posted this on the forums at http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?p=165258#post165258 but since this is affecting our business, I'm trying to reach out to a broader audience and hopefully get this thing resolved. We have an Intel modular blade server. The chassis has 2x 3-disk RAID(5) arrays. Volume 1 is what the OS (FreeBSD 7.2) is installed on and Volume 2 is mounted at /usr. These two volumes are da0 and da1. I got email notifications saying the web host I run in a jail hosted on this server was down. I try to SSH into it, but it fails. I ping it and I get a 50% return rate. So I log in to the management blade and start a virtual KVM sessions to get into the blade. Once I'm into the basehost blade, I cat dmesg.today and get a slew of errors. Here we go.. (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): Logical unit not accessible, target port in standby state (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:4,b (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): Logical unit not accessible, target port in standby state (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:4,b (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): Logical unit not accessible, target port in standby state (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): Retries Exhausted As mentioned before, our two volumes are da0 and da1. /dev lists da2 and da3 as well, but I have no idea what they are. How do I figure out what da3 is and what do the above error messages say about it? Someone on the forum asked me if the two volumes are on the same controller and the answer is yes, they are. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1a is ufsid/4aeb03874c64d9f1. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1d is ufsid/4aeb038ae8ae24cf. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1e is ufsid/4aeb0387d41a. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1f is ufsid/4aeb038766c4c807. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb03874c64d9f1 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1a is ufsid/4aeb03874c64d9f1. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb0387d41a removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4bd2077f23a6cc93 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1e is ufsid/4aeb0387d41a. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da1s1 is ufsid/4bd2077f23a6cc93. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb038766c4c807 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1f is ufsid/4aeb038766c4c807. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb038ae8ae24cf removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1d is ufsid/4aeb038ae8ae24cf. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb03874c64d9f1 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb0387d41a removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb038766c4c807 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb038ae8ae24cf removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4bd2077f23a6cc93 removed. Was root unmounted? Whats going on here? Obviously there's some issue with da0, which is mounted at /. The server has been up and running fine, so why am I seeing Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a? pid 93248 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10 pid 95624 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10 pid 97956 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10 pid 97935 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10 pid 96603 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10 pid 93210 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10 pid 98246 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10 This is apparently whats killing our webserver. Apache receives a signal 10 and quits.. Everything I've read says it's an issue with Apache trying to access RAM that it shouldn't or that doesn't exist.. Is there something else with the above da0 or da3 errors that would cause a SIGBUS on httpd? Then after that it goes back and repeats that first block of da3 errors a bunch more times. The server was down for about 10 minutes and then it just fixed itself. It's weird because it seems the apache child processes all get killed off by the sigbus but the parent process doesn't.. so once the problem works itself out, it continues operations as normal without me having to restart the daemon or anything. The management blade in the server chassis is reporting that all the hardware is fine. We have a second blade that boots off of a second partition in Volume 1 and it doesn't have any problems at all. I'm at a loss here! Ryan Merrell This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.
Re: pxeboot.bs and vlan tagging
On 06/02/2012 17:33, Rick Miller wrote: 2) do you fetch the kernel successfully? When using tftp, The kernel and kernel modules are fetched before the memory file system, so do pxeboot fetch the kernel but not the mfsroot? The reason for these questions is that your problem may be with the kernel and kernel modules and not pxeboot. Just to be sure. I see what you are saying. We will have to look at the packet captures to make that determination. The target system loads pxeboot.bs and consequently requests the following files: /boot/boot.4th (which it does not find) /boot/loader.rc /boot/loader.4th /boot/support.4th /boot/defaults/loader.conf /boot/device.hints /boot/loader.conf It is at this point where the failure occurs. The contents of loader.conf are: mfsroot_load=YES mfsroot_type=mfs_root mfsroot_name=/boot/mfsroot Does this seem consistent with what you were theorizing that it's the kernel that has the problem with vlan tagging and not pxeboot.bs? See the other mail, the way pxeboot works IIRC, is that first the pxeboot is fetched using tftp, the pxeboot is given the next server and will fetch the kernel, modules and other files from /boot/ on that server, (path respective to the root of the tftp dir). The kernel loads and will then fetch the mfsroot file. As mentioned, by default this is done using nfs, and nfs is assumed if the kernel supports nfs, even if it only fetches one file. This I understand has to be this way since the network configuration set with dhcp does not specify the protocol. So, if your kernel supports nfs it will not use tftp and hence fail. The details are somewhat distant to me, it's been some time since I messsed arround with this. hope this helps. BR, Erik -- M: +34 666 334 818 T: +34 915 211 157 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
fbsd safety of the ports
I'm a bit confused. I always believed FreeBSD is a very safe system. That may be true for the core files, but what about ports. On the net I read _never_ to let the webserver be the owner of its files and yet, ports like Drupal or WordPress make the files rwx for the owner (www) as well as the group (www). How does this fit into fbsd's safety policy? I guess you might say it's the task of the port maintainer, but isn't there some kind of port acceptance policy? Imho this situation is a bit confusing at least ;-) I'd like to get some info on this if possible. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fbsd safety of the ports
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:37:17 -0600, d...@nagual.nl wrote: I'm a bit confused. I always believed FreeBSD is a very safe system. That may be true for the core files, but what about ports. On the net I read _never_ to let the webserver be the owner of its files and yet, ports like Drupal or WordPress make the files rwx for the owner (www) as well as the group (www). How does this fit into fbsd's safety policy? I guess you might say it's the task of the port maintainer, but isn't there some kind of port acceptance policy? Imho this situation is a bit confusing at least I'd like to get some info on this if possible. In my opinion it's up to the admin to make sure the sites their hosted are setup with proper permissions. If you haven't run into it yet I'd be surprised -- Wordpress/Joomla/etc seem to throw a fit when you don't give them full write access to certain directories (for caching and whatnot) and if you don't have them update via the FTP method they require write access everywhere. This is excluding weird add-ons and plugins that want write access everywhere as well, which I've seen many times. Securing a CMS properly is harder than it should be. Sometimes I feel the safest way would be to run two copies of the site: one that's read-only (including database read only perms) and another that you use for managing, updating, etc. However, now you've alienated anyone from ever being able to comment on your blog... Security, Low Difficulty, Functionality -- pick two. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pxeboot.bs and vlan tagging
Thanks for your feedback, Erik! I do have a question below... On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Erik Nørgaard norga...@locolomo.org wrote: See the other mail, the way pxeboot works IIRC, is that first the pxeboot is fetched using tftp, the pxeboot is given the next server and will fetch the kernel, modules and other files from /boot/ on that server, (path respective to the root of the tftp dir). The kernel loads and will then fetch the mfsroot file. As mentioned, by default this is done using nfs, and nfs is assumed if the kernel supports nfs, even if it only fetches one file. This I understand has to be this way since the network configuration set with dhcp does not specify the protocol. So, if your kernel supports nfs it will not use tftp and hence fail. The kernel I am using is the kernel from the DVD ISO as it is downloaded from freebsd.org. How do I determine what modules have been enabled and disabled in that kernel? I am under the assumption that NFS is compiled into that kernel. We can install 8.2-RELEASE with this kernel in VMs, but not bare metal. Is there an explanation as to why an NFS enabled kernel would work inside a VM, but fail on bare metal? -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ntpd crashes during start - a lot of interfaces
On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:39 PM, Radek Krejča wrote: I have problem with using ntpd on 8.2 amd64 (not tested elsewhere). If I have a lot of interfaces (vlans) ntpd crashes with segmentation fault (core dump). I have tested on my test machine and it really depends on number of interfaces. It try to bind on every of it. I want to reduce it with using some options (like -I em0) but it seems that ntpd ignore it. If I use truss the system calls look same. Is there any way to bind directly on specified interface? -I is supposed to do that, but if it doesn't work right, consider gaining a bit more debugging info (a backtrace from running under gdb or against the corefile) and filing a PR. You could also discuss this with upstream, meaning the NTP mailing list at questi...@lists.ntp.org Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Multiple errors on server -- Where do I start looking?
On Feb 6, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Ryan Merrell wrote: We have an Intel modular blade server. The chassis has 2x 3-disk RAID(5) arrays. Volume 1 is what the OS (FreeBSD 7.2) is installed on and Volume 2 is mounted at /usr. These two volumes are da0 and da1. This doesn't matter directly to your issue, but a 3-disk RAID-5 setup is not a great choice. With six disks available, you'd almost certainly do better either as a 6-disk-wide RAID-5 or a RAID-10. I got email notifications saying the web host I run in a jail hosted on this server was down. I try to SSH into it, but it fails. I ping it and I get a 50% return rate. So I log in to the management blade and start a virtual KVM sessions to get into the blade. Once I'm into the basehost blade, I cat dmesg.today and get a slew of errors. Here we go.. (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): Logical unit not accessible, target port in standby state (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:4,b (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): Logical unit not accessible, target port in standby state (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:4,b (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): Logical unit not accessible, target port in standby state (da3:mpt0:0:6:1): Retries Exhausted As mentioned before, our two volumes are da0 and da1. /dev lists da2 and da3 as well, but I have no idea what they are. How do I figure out what da3 is and what do the above error messages say about it? Someone on the forum asked me if the two volumes are on the same controller and the answer is yes, they are. Check a dmesg after a reboot, or take a look at camcontrol devlist or atacontrol list and that ought to provide more information. Since you're also using GEOM labels, glabel status is likely to be informative as well. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1a is ufsid/4aeb03874c64d9f1. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1d is ufsid/4aeb038ae8ae24cf. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1e is ufsid/4aeb0387d41a. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1f is ufsid/4aeb038766c4c807. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb03874c64d9f1 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1a is ufsid/4aeb03874c64d9f1. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb0387d41a removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4bd2077f23a6cc93 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1e is ufsid/4aeb0387d41a. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da1s1 is ufsid/4bd2077f23a6cc93. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb038766c4c807 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1f is ufsid/4aeb038766c4c807. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb038ae8ae24cf removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1d is ufsid/4aeb038ae8ae24cf. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb03874c64d9f1 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb0387d41a removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb038766c4c807 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4aeb038ae8ae24cf removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4bd2077f23a6cc93 removed. Was root unmounted? Whats going on here? Obviously there's some issue with da0, which is mounted at /. The server has been up and running fine, so why am I seeing Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a? These are standard messages from GEOM-- it's trying to look at the disk labels and figure out where to mount the various filesystems. pid 93248 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10 pid 95624 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10 pid 97956 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10 pid 97935 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10 pid 96603 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10 pid 93210 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10 pid 98246 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 10 This is apparently whats killing our webserver. Apache receives a signal 10 and quits.. Everything I've read says it's an issue with Apache trying to access RAM that it shouldn't or that doesn't exist.. Is there something else with the above da0 or da3 errors that would cause a SIGBUS on httpd? That's unclear, but normally a failing disk will cause I/O to block and the httpds will simply hang, not crash. Most likely, you've got a bug lurking in one of the Apache modules you use (mod_php is a likely candidate), but run a test instance of httpd under gdb using -X flag, and see whether you can gain better information. Or unlimit coredumpsize, and run gdb against the corefile to see what's causing the crash. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pxeboot.bs and vlan tagging
We have determined that it has failed after loading pxeboot.bs and before loading the kernel. Therefore, the kernel is not the problem. I have also determined that vlan tagging is not the problem as it has failed with vlan tagging disabled. I don't believe it is the content because it works in 3 out of 4 different environments. In fact, in the 4th environment in recent tests, it worked a handful of times before failing again. Suspecting network configurations at this point, but thanks for the input provided thus far. It has been immensely helpful. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Erik Nørgaard norga...@locolomo.org wrote: On 06/02/2012 17:33, Rick Miller wrote: 2) do you fetch the kernel successfully? When using tftp, The kernel and kernel modules are fetched before the memory file system, so do pxeboot fetch the kernel but not the mfsroot? The reason for these questions is that your problem may be with the kernel and kernel modules and not pxeboot. Just to be sure. I see what you are saying. We will have to look at the packet captures to make that determination. The target system loads pxeboot.bs and consequently requests the following files: /boot/boot.4th (which it does not find) /boot/loader.rc /boot/loader.4th /boot/support.4th /boot/defaults/loader.conf /boot/device.hints /boot/loader.conf It is at this point where the failure occurs. The contents of loader.conf are: mfsroot_load=YES mfsroot_type=mfs_root mfsroot_name=/boot/mfsroot Does this seem consistent with what you were theorizing that it's the kernel that has the problem with vlan tagging and not pxeboot.bs? See the other mail, the way pxeboot works IIRC, is that first the pxeboot is fetched using tftp, the pxeboot is given the next server and will fetch the kernel, modules and other files from /boot/ on that server, (path respective to the root of the tftp dir). The kernel loads and will then fetch the mfsroot file. As mentioned, by default this is done using nfs, and nfs is assumed if the kernel supports nfs, even if it only fetches one file. This I understand has to be this way since the network configuration set with dhcp does not specify the protocol. So, if your kernel supports nfs it will not use tftp and hence fail. The details are somewhat distant to me, it's been some time since I messsed arround with this. hope this helps. BR, Erik -- M: +34 666 334 818 T: +34 915 211 157 -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Querying a cvsup server
Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com writes: Is there a way to query one of the FreeBSD cvsup mirrors, something like 'svn list -v svn:...' (only with cvs or csup)? I'm looking to find the revision or date of a file. Anonymous CVS is probably the best approach for you. It's covered in the Handbook. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pxeboot.bs and vlan tagging
On 06/02/2012 19:34, Rick Miller wrote: Thanks for your feedback, Erik! I do have a question below... The kernel I am using is the kernel from the DVD ISO as it is downloaded from freebsd.org. How do I determine what modules have been enabled and disabled in that kernel? I am under the assumption that NFS is compiled into that kernel. We can install 8.2-RELEASE with this kernel in VMs, but not bare metal. Is there an explanation as to why an NFS enabled kernel would work inside a VM, but fail on bare metal? The kernel distributed with the ISOs is the generic kernel, so if you have the source (it's also on the DVD) you'll find the GENERIC kernel configuration file in /usr/src/sys/YOUR_ARCH/conf/GENERIC and you can see what are the compile options. You'll see these options: options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCL# New Network Filesystem Client options NFSD # New Network Filesystem Server options NFSLOCKD # Network Lock Manager options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCL The first one is required, this allows your kernel to mount a memory disk device (your mfsroot), the others enable NFS. You need to rebuild the kernel with NFS disabled. BR, Erik -- M: +34 666 334 818 T: +34 915 211 157 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ath and how to control wireless light
On Feb 5, 2012 3:38 PM, Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com wrote: On 04/02/2012 16:49, Waitman Gobble wrote: On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 3:52 AM, Chris Whitehousecwhi...@onetel.com wrote: On 04/02/2012 08:37, Waitman Gobble wrote: On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Chris Whitehousecwhi...@onetel.com wrote: Hello I have FreeBSD 9R amd64 installed on a HP G60 laptop. This machine has a combined wireless switch and led. The switch turns the wifi on and off but the light stays red. The light is supposed to show red for wireless off and blue for wireless on. I found some sysctls that control it: dev.ath.0.softled: 0 dev.ath.0.ledpin: 3 dev.ath.0.ledon: 1 dev.ath.0.ledidle: 2700 softled, ledpin and ledon are all set to 0 on boot. I set ledpin to 3, then to change the colour of the light I turn on softled 0-1, toggle ledon and turn off softled again. Can I make that sequence occur, or do something else, to make the led change when the button is pressed _and_ keep in sync with whether the wireless is on or off? With softled=1 the light is blue with a short red flash or red with a short blue flash depending on the value of ledon. Also when softled=1 the light flashes in it's opposite colour when there is network traffic. So it would probably be ok just to leave softled=1 and toggle ledon. The wireless device is dev.ath.0.%desc: Atheros 5424/2424. I think there is a slight glitch with the on/off button, that under some circumstances it doesn't turn the wifi on again, which would be much easier to test if the light worked. Also what is ledidle and what do different settings do? Thanks Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions http://lists.**freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/**freebsd-questions http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.orgfreebs**d-questions-unsubscribe@**freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi Chris, I have an Acer Aspire D150 and the LED hasn't been lit with FreeBSD, 9-rc3, 9-release or 10-current (with BroadCom and 2 Atheros cards). it did work with Fedora GNU/Linux 11. I did try setting in loader.conf as recommended to me to no avail. On one hand it was easy to get the attitude who cares about the LED anyway but on the other I'm thinking it's a simple little thing that's important,I guess like maybe buying a new car and it's missing a knob on the stereo. (?) :) I suppose it probably should work. Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA I have another HP laptop with a Broadcomm card which has a button_with_light and it just works. None of the sysctl oids above occur though. Maybe I'll swap wireless cards between the two and see what happens. What is the output of sysctl -a |grep led ? You'll get lots of enabled's but there might be something that relates to led's. I had to change ledpin from default of 0 to 3 before any of the other ones had any effect. Thanks for the reply anyway. Chris Oh thats a good idea :) Thanks here's what someone recommended : dev.ath.0.ledpin=3 dev.ath.0.softled=1 but here are some extras i found from sysctl -a that i will check out: dev.ath.0.ledon: 0 dev.ath.0.ledidle: 2700 dev.ath.0.hardled: 0 dev.ath.0.led_net_pin: -1 dev.ath.0.led_pwr_pin: -1 Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA I would give them a try. Set dev.ath.0.ledpin=3 then experiment. If you can't get any response try different values for ledpin or one of the other led*pin. I can't read source code :( but maybe you can get more info out of the code you posted. Chris cool. when i have some more time ill see about modifying the the code to make a little flicker light diagnostic tool, use to try to figure out correct settings i guess. just an idea, i checked for a couple minutes and didnt find one but maybe its already done :) Waitman ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Querying a cvsup server
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com writes: Is there a way to query one of the FreeBSD cvsup mirrors, something like 'svn list -v svn:...' (only with cvs or csup)? I'm looking to find the revision or date of a file. Anonymous CVS is probably the best approach for you. It's covered in the Handbook. The goal is to check arbitrary files on FreeBSD cvsup servers to see if they are up to date. AFAIK, there are only a couple of anoncvs servers and the normal cvsupN.freebsd.org servers don't do that. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
where is plig.net
About the first thing I ever learned about FreeBSD was the uk mirror ftp.plig.net and cvsup.plig.net which I think used to be ftp2.uk.freebsd.org. Since then I have always used them as a file source for broadband speed tests. They seem to have disappeared very recently. Does anyone know what happened to them, have they stopped being a mirror? thanks Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Software Development using Freebsd.
Hello all. This is kind of off topic. My apologies in advance. I am helping a non profit organization and giving some classes to prepare students so they can be prepared and try to get a job (they are students also and have the basics concepts already) Anyway, I am interested in teach them to develop some simple applications. From simple ones to destktop ones that access a database, desktop ones that use internet to connect to a remote database and web based ones with a database behind. We have 6 months and the idea is to work a lot remotely. Thin is that I do not want to use any kind of Microsoft products. Some of them do not have modern machines but until now, in previous classs, we could install Freebsd, text mode, and work from there. Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products at least. I have been looking for this for months. First case using Windows but not Microsoft products. I found some options BUT they all were expensive on the deployment. The runtimes were not free and the amount of money to pay was not a good option. Others provide real free excutables for runtimes but the products were expensive. I am now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then use open source software to develop graphical windows applications. Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python). Talking with friend, he believes that my best bet is to teach them C or C++ and use some of the options for developing graphically ( I am not a C or C++ expert but I can learn alone). I was wondering if you could give some advie and comments on this. Are you developing commercial applications (including Windows ones) using FreeBsd as your platform? Or Maybe any Linux Distribution? Would you do that with Python or something else? Any extra advice is more than welcomed. Thanks in advanced. Jorge Biquez ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: where is plig.net
On 6 Feb 2012, at 21:51, Chris Whitehouse wrote: About the first thing I ever learned about FreeBSD was the uk mirror ftp.plig.net and cvsup.plig.net which I think used to be ftp2.uk.freebsd.org. Since then I have always used them as a file source for broadband speed tests. They seem to have disappeared very recently. Does anyone know what happened to them, have they stopped being a mirror? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hubs/2012-January/002442.html___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
Not an expert by any means, but what about Mono, the open source and cross platform version of the .NET framework? If you take a look at http://www.mono-project.com/Compatibility , you'll see that it's mostly compatible with .NET 4.0, and claims to be 100% compatible with .NET 3.5. Java is also cross platform and will run on FreeBSD; or, like you say, you could use Python with TkInter; there's doubtless many other cross-platform solutions that I'm not aware of. All best, David Hello all. This is kind of off topic. My apologies in advance. I am helping a non profit organization and giving some classes to prepare students so they can be prepared and try to get a job (they are students also and have the basics concepts already) Anyway, I am interested in teach them to develop some simple applications. From simple ones to destktop ones that access a database, desktop ones that use internet to connect to a remote database and web based ones with a database behind. We have 6 months and the idea is to work a lot remotely. Thin is that I do not want to use any kind of Microsoft products. Some of them do not have modern machines but until now, in previous classs, we could install Freebsd, text mode, and work from there. Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products at least. I have been looking for this for months. First case using Windows but not Microsoft products. I found some options BUT they all were expensive on the deployment. The runtimes were not free and the amount of money to pay was not a good option. Others provide real free excutables for runtimes but the products were expensive. I am now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then use open source software to develop graphical windows applications. Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python). Talking with friend, he believes that my best bet is to teach them C or C++ and use some of the options for developing graphically ( I am not a C or C++ expert but I can learn alone). I was wondering if you could give some advie and comments on this. Are you developing commercial applications (including Windows ones) using FreeBsd as your platform? Or Maybe any Linux Distribution? Would you do that with Python or something else? Any extra advice is more than welcomed. Thanks in advanced. Jorge Biquez ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python). I think that python is a great learning language. I would certainly be teaching it to people as the first language to help build concepts. However, FreeBSD, contains mono. Mono is avaliable on Linux and OSX, but it is on windows natively as .NET. You can easily create some great C# applications that would be cross platform using this tool. Finally, the best cross platform tool is a web service. So perhaps you should explore the Django or Ruby on Rails path? Sincerely, William Brown Research Teaching, Technology Services The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 CRICOS Provider Number 00123M - IMPORTANT: This message may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you think it was sent to you by mistake, please delete all copies and advise the sender. For the purposes of the SPAM Act 2003, this email is authorised by The University of Adelaide. pgp.mit.edu http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0x3C0AC6DAB2F928A2 signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 04:37:37PM -0600, Jorge Biquez wrote: I am helping a non profit organization and giving some classes to prepare students so they can be prepared and try to get a job (they are students also and have the basics concepts already) That's admirable. I hope that works out. Anyway, I am interested in teach them to develop some simple applications. From simple ones to destktop ones that access a database, desktop ones that use internet to connect to a remote database and web based ones with a database behind. We have 6 months and the idea is to work a lot remotely. Thin is that I do not want to use any kind of Microsoft products. Some of them do not have modern machines but until now, in previous classs, we could install Freebsd, text mode, and work from there. Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products at least. What kind of experience do you want these students to have when they leave? Do you just want them practiced in doing some general programming with cross-platform tools, including database access and simple GUI work? Do you want them to specifically work with commodity tools that will fit in with mainstream job posting requirements on a resume? Do you want them to work with tools that will enable them to most easily expand their experience on their own once they get done with the course of instruction so they can more rapidly approach general competence and create useful projects of their own very quickly, figuring they can then move on to other tools and technologies as they decide which direction they want to take their professional pursuits? Do you just want it to be as easy as possible? Your top priority should probably help you make this decision. I have been looking for this for months. First case using Windows but not Microsoft products. I found some options BUT they all were expensive on the deployment. The runtimes were not free and the amount of money to pay was not a good option. Others provide real free excutables for runtimes but the products were expensive. I am now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then use open source software to develop graphical windows applications. Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python). Talking with friend, he believes that my best bet is to teach them C or C++ and use some of the options for developing graphically ( I am not a C or C++ expert but I can learn alone). Depending on your goals, anything from Ruby to C could be an excellent choice. LLVM/Clang is a great compiler suite for C; the mainstream Ruby implementation will get you far; both can use platform-independent graphical toolkits and database access libraries. PostgreSQL is a great DBMS distributed under a copyfree license, and it is well supported for both these languages. They're sorta on opposite ends of a spectrum, though, so some kind of narrowing down of goals should be done before arriving at any conclusions. I was wondering if you could give some advie and comments on this. Are you developing commercial applications (including Windows ones) using FreeBsd as your platform? Or Maybe any Linux Distribution? I've written C, C++, Ruby, Perl, and PHP on FreeBSD, for deployment in a wide range of platform circumstances. Some of my development has been commercial, some of it just for fun, some to solve my own personal problems. . . . There's nothing wrong with FreeBSD as a development platform for most purposes, especially if you want to work on portable software development. In fact, I think that for purposes of writing portable code, it's difficult to do worse than FreeBSD, because it's probably easier to move code from FreeBSD to Linux distributions, Apple MacOS, and MS Windows due to social factors involved than the other way around. Would you do that with Python or something else? I personally am not the world's biggest Python fan, but my choice would depend on the specific goals involved. If you're leaning toward the Python end of the spectrum, though, I (personally; your mileage may differ) would probably choose Ruby instead. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mxwrote: Would you do that with Python or something else? http://qt.nokia.com/ -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: where is plig.net
On 06/02/2012 22:33, Mark Blackman wrote: On 6 Feb 2012, at 21:51, Chris Whitehouse wrote: About the first thing I ever learned about FreeBSD was the uk mirror ftp.plig.net and cvsup.plig.net which I think used to be ftp2.uk.freebsd.org. Since then I have always used them as a file source for broadband speed tests. They seem to have disappeared very recently. Does anyone know what happened to them, have they stopped being a mirror? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hubs/2012-January/002442.html Ah thanks for the info. That makes me sad, they've been like a constant companion all those years. They used to call themselves Internet Sunshine :) Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mergemaster
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 17:40:14 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Sun, 5 Feb 2012, Net Warrior wrote: Hi there. I found very tedious when , after a makeworld the mergemaster process to say (i) to install/upgrade/replace/ with the new file, specially when there are a lot of files I was reading the documentation but it's not clear to me which option to use to automate the process, which is the right one, or combination? -U -F -iF? -Ui takes a long time the first time, then is much better the next time. ___ One shortcut that works very well if you haven't made any customizations there that you're afraid will be overwritten, is to 'rm -rf /etc/rc.d' before running mergemaster, so it can just automatically add all the new files without prompting. HTH -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:37:37 -0600 Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products at least. You could try mono and monodevelop http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/devel/monodevelop/pkg-descr Mono is the open source version of .NET/C#. This would teach the basics of .NET and C#. Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python). You can use Python and py2exe to create the executable that would run on Windows, but you have to run py2exe on a Windows machine. If you know Pascal you can look at the FreePascal and Lazarus. I haven't used it in years, but I was able to create several applications that ran on both FreeBSD and Windows. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/editors/lazarus/pkg-descr -- Rod Person http://www.rodperson.com rodper...@rodperson.com Let us in the name of the Holy Trinity, go on sending all the slaves that can be sold. - Letter from Christopher Columbus. J.A. Rawley, The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade: A History. Pg.3 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Querying a cvsup server
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 14:53:58 -0700 (MST)
Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com writes:
Is there a way to query one of the FreeBSD cvsup mirrors, something
like 'svn list -v svn:...' (only with cvs or csup)? I'm looking to
find the revision or date of a file.
Anonymous CVS is probably the best approach for you.
It's covered in the Handbook.
The goal is to check arbitrary files on FreeBSD cvsup servers to see
if they are up to date. AFAIK, there are only a couple of anoncvs
servers and the normal cvsupN.freebsd.org servers don't do that.
This is one of the reasons I maintain a local copy of the CVS repo
which I keep up-to-date via csup. Comes in quite handy at times.
In fact, the CVS repo is the *only* thing I update directly via csup.
I then do all my /usr/{doc,ports,src} updates from the local repo.
Great for creating patches for submission, too.
HTH
--
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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Rod Person rodper...@rodperson.com wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:37:37 -0600 Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products at least. You could try mono and monodevelop http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/devel/monodevelop/pkg-descr Mono is the open source version of .NET/C#. This would teach the basics of .NET and C#. Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python). You can use Python and py2exe to create the executable that would run on Windows, but you have to run py2exe on a Windows machine. If you know Pascal you can look at the FreePascal and Lazarus. I haven't used it in years, but I was able to create several applications that ran on both FreeBSD and Windows. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/editors/lazarus/pkg-descr -- Rod Person http://www.rodperson.com rodper...@rodperson.com Let us in the name of the Holy Trinity, go on sending all the slaves that can be sold. - Letter from Christopher Columbus. J.A. Rawley, The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade: A History. Pg.3 Lazarus is an IDE ( Integrated Development Environment ) and its compiler is Free Pascal : http://www.freepascal.org/ http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ When a program is developed in Lazarus , it can directly be compiled in Windows . There are a multitude of units for any kind of programming ( Web , Data base , etc. ) . Lazarus and FreePascal is available for FreeBSD , Linux , Windows , and many other operating systems . A study of the above sites will reveal their capabilities . http://wiki.freepascal.org/Cross_compiling_for_Win32_under_Linux http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Cross_compiling I did not use , but cross compiling should be possible by using Wine in FreeBSD to obtain Windows programs ( Windows versions of Lazarus and Free Pascal may be used in FreeBSD to generate Windows programs and they may be executed under Wine in FreeBSD for testing before transferred to Windows : This means a minimum number of Windows computer(s) may be used for final testing . ) . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 04:37:37PM -0600, Jorge Biquez wrote: Hello all. This is kind of off topic. My apologies in advance. I am helping a non profit organization and giving some classes to prepare students so they can be prepared and try to get a job (they are students also and have the basics concepts already) Anyway, I am interested in teach them to develop some simple applications. From simple ones to destktop ones that access a database, desktop ones that use internet to connect to a remote database and web based ones with a database behind. We have 6 months and the idea is to work a lot remotely. Thin is that I do not want to use any kind of Microsoft products. Some of them do not have modern machines but until now, in previous classs, we could install Freebsd, text mode, and work from there. Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products at least. I have been looking for this for months. First case using Windows but not Microsoft products. I found some options BUT they all were expensive on the deployment. The runtimes were not free and the amount of money to pay was not a good option. Others provide real free excutables for runtimes but the products were expensive. I am now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then use open source software to develop graphical windows applications. Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python). Talking with friend, he believes that my best bet is to teach them C or C++ and use some of the options for developing graphically ( I am not a C or C++ expert but I can learn alone). I was wondering if you could give some advie and comments on this. Are you developing commercial applications (including Windows ones) using FreeBsd as your platform? Or Maybe any Linux Distribution? Would you do that with Python or something else? Any extra advice is more than welcomed. Thanks in advanced. Any reason you don't want to use Java? OO, plenty of IDEs to choose from, ranging from vim to Eclipse which run on both Windows and Unix. If I wanted to develop for Windows (I don't), that's what I'd use so I could develop my code using FreeBSD. The best part is that Java skills are in demand. (I don't know if that's the case in Mexico though). Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html pgpgtIfdq5w75.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com To: Rod Person rodper...@rodperson.com Cc: Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx; FreeBSD Questions questi...@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 9:22 PM Subject: Re: Software Development using Freebsd. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Rod Person rodper...@rodperson.com wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:37:37 -0600 Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products at least. You could try mono and monodevelop http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/devel/monodevelop/pkg-descr Mono is the open source version of .NET/C#. This would teach the basics of .NET and C#. Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python). You can use Python and py2exe to create the executable that would run on Windows, but you have to run py2exe on a Windows machine. If you know Pascal you can look at the FreePascal and Lazarus. I haven't used it in years, but I was able to create several applications that ran on both FreeBSD and Windows. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/editors/lazarus/pkg-descr -- Rod Person http://www.rodperson.com rodper...@rodperson.com Let us in the name of the Holy Trinity, go on sending all the slaves that can be sold. - Letter from Christopher Columbus. J.A. Rawley, The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade: A History. Pg.3 Lazarus is an IDE ( Integrated Development Environment ) and its compiler is Free Pascal : http://www.freepascal.org/ http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ When a program is developed in Lazarus , it can directly be compiled in Windows . There are a multitude of units for any kind of programming ( Web , Data base , etc. ) . Lazarus and FreePascal is available for FreeBSD , Linux , Windows , and many other operating systems . A study of the above sites will reveal their capabilities . http://wiki.freepascal.org/Cross_compiling_for_Win32_under_Linux http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Cross_compiling I did not use , but cross compiling should be possible by using Wine in FreeBSD to obtain Windows programs ( Windows versions of Lazarus and Free Pascal may be used in FreeBSD to generate Windows programs and they may be executed under Wine in FreeBSD for testing before transferred to Windows : This means a minimum number of Windows computer(s) may be used for final testing . ) . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk I do use Lazarus and FreePascal to develop professional applications, mainly I work on Linux and cross-compile to Win32/Win64. For FreeBsd I installed FreePascal on a Virtual Machine and compiled from it, I never tried cross-compiling from FreeBSD to other OSes, but I'm pretty sure it can be done. An example of what I do is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc1RT-s-dw0 Leonardo M. Ramé http://leonardorame.blogspot.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Debug Brother MFC-9560CDW failure to print
On 02/07/12 07:32, Jerry wrote: OK Rock, if you think you can debug what is happening here, be my guest. As shown in the subject line, this is a Brother MFC-9560CDW printer. It works perfectly from Windows. Under FreeBSD, no so much. When configured via CUPS 1.5.0, it will print a perfect test page. Now, when I invoke the printer from an applications, only a blank page is ejected. Most applications, offer both an LPR option as well as the print to printer option. If I choose the LPR option, the document is printed correctly. This is also true from the command line. I either print to LPR or I use Windows to print the document. I have attached the PPD file along with a lot of other information. It is the latest one from Brother that is used on Windows. There is no native PPD file available for FreeBSD. However, in the past I have tried Linux PPDs that worked fine on Linux but failed on FreeBSD. What I fail to understand is why it is printing via LPR correctly but not via CUPS although the CUPS test page does print correctly. When you say the test page prints correctly, is that the cups test page or the test page out of the printer? Put it this way: does it say cups on the page printed? Have you tried using foomatic? From what I read you could use pxlcolor filter. As I also understand it, using a windows ppd on anything other than windows (unless the manufacturer possibly made the programs with the same name- which is virtually never) will never work. You may _possibly_ have some success with Linux, but not likely. And your best bet is to forget the manufacturers stupid proprietary printer languages and stick with standards; ie. PCL, Postscript (which specifically is cups native language). If you need better quality (for, say, photos), then use gutenprint. Bottom line: I think you're chasing the wrong dog. I don't think it knows what you're talking about using BR-script3 and barfs. Switch to PCL6 and it will work I'm pretty sure. And ppd's won't mix and match- ppd's tell cups what to do, and cups then follows the scripts and spits the output; if it doesn't know what the scripts are it will not know what to do, and so far (I'm still going through it all) it looks like it is just sending something the printer has no idea at all what to do with and just spits paper out anyway. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
On 02/07/12 08:37, Jorge Biquez wrote: Hello all. This is kind of off topic. My apologies in advance. I am helping a non profit organization and giving some classes to prepare students so they can be prepared and try to get a job (they are students also and have the basics concepts already) Anyway, I am interested in teach them to develop some simple applications. From simple ones to destktop ones that access a database, desktop ones that use internet to connect to a remote database and web based ones with a database behind. We have 6 months and the idea is to work a lot remotely. Thin is that I do not want to use any kind of Microsoft products. Some of them do not have modern machines but until now, in previous classs, we could install Freebsd, text mode, and work from there. Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products at least. I have been looking for this for months. First case using Windows but not Microsoft products. I found some options BUT they all were expensive on the deployment. The runtimes were not free and the amount of money to pay was not a good option. Others provide real free excutables for runtimes but the products were expensive. I am now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then use open source software to develop graphical windows applications. Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even for other platforms (Mac or LInux or whatever runs Python). Talking with friend, he believes that my best bet is to teach them C or C++ and use some of the options for developing graphically ( I am not a C or C++ expert but I can learn alone). I was wondering if you could give some advie and comments on this. Are you developing commercial applications (including Windows ones) using FreeBsd as your platform? Or Maybe any Linux Distribution? Would you do that with Python or something else? Depending on what you really need to solve decides your language. Others have offered advice here, but may I suggest Perl? For most data and its proven ability to handle/match string data it is very useful. And using tk it will run on windows as well. My 2c... :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Debug Brother MFC-9560CDW failure to print
On 02/07/12 11:44, Da Rock wrote: On 02/07/12 07:32, Jerry wrote: OK Rock, if you think you can debug what is happening here, be my guest. As shown in the subject line, this is a Brother MFC-9560CDW printer. It works perfectly from Windows. Under FreeBSD, no so much. When configured via CUPS 1.5.0, it will print a perfect test page. Now, when I invoke the printer from an applications, only a blank page is ejected. Most applications, offer both an LPR option as well as the print to printer option. If I choose the LPR option, the document is printed correctly. This is also true from the command line. I either print to LPR or I use Windows to print the document. I have attached the PPD file along with a lot of other information. It is the latest one from Brother that is used on Windows. There is no native PPD file available for FreeBSD. However, in the past I have tried Linux PPDs that worked fine on Linux but failed on FreeBSD. What I fail to understand is why it is printing via LPR correctly but not via CUPS although the CUPS test page does print correctly. When you say the test page prints correctly, is that the cups test page or the test page out of the printer? Put it this way: does it say cups on the page printed? Have you tried using foomatic? From what I read you could use pxlcolor filter. As I also understand it, using a windows ppd on anything other than windows (unless the manufacturer possibly made the programs with the same name- which is virtually never) will never work. You may _possibly_ have some success with Linux, but not likely. And your best bet is to forget the manufacturers stupid proprietary printer languages and stick with standards; ie. PCL, Postscript (which specifically is cups native language). If you need better quality (for, say, photos), then use gutenprint. Bottom line: I think you're chasing the wrong dog. I don't think it knows what you're talking about using BR-script3 and barfs. Switch to PCL6 and it will work I'm pretty sure. And ppd's won't mix and match- ppd's tell cups what to do, and cups then follows the scripts and spits the output; if it doesn't know what the scripts are it will not know what to do, and so far (I'm still going through it all) it looks like it is just sending something the printer has no idea at all what to do with and just spits paper out anyway. Just noticed something: have you specifically got a postscript module in your printer? Because that is what it is sending your printer... I only just found that in the logs :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products at least. Go for Qt. It is a great cross-platform C++ GUI framework, with plugins to SQL databases, networking and everything you would typically need. There's even PyQt, if you want Python bindings. Check out the examples in the Qt distribution too to get an idea: http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/all-examples.html -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
DDa == Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au writes: Would you do that with Python or something else? DDa Depending on what you really need to solve decides your DDa language. Others have offered advice here, but may I suggest Perl? DDa For most data and its proven ability to handle/match string data it DDa is very useful. And using tk it will run on windows as well. At this point, there's absolutely nothing that Python can do that Perl can't, and very likely vice versa. However, from personal experience, I know that Larry Wall understands Object Oriented Programming, and Guido definitely doesn't get it. Obviously, other people have worked on both languages, but keep that in mind. I can present my evidence of how Guido doesn't get it in a longer post, if prompted. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 07:36:46PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: DDa == Da Rock writes: Would you do that with Python or something else? DDa Depending on what you really need to solve decides your DDa language. Others have offered advice here, but may I suggest Perl? DDa For most data and its proven ability to handle/match string data it DDa is very useful. And using tk it will run on windows as well. At this point, there's absolutely nothing that Python can do that Perl can't, and very likely vice versa. However, from personal experience, I know that Larry Wall understands Object Oriented Programming, and Guido definitely doesn't get it. Obviously, other people have worked on both languages, but keep that in mind. I can present my evidence of how Guido doesn't get it in a longer post, if prompted. I'm definitely curious. If you don't think this is the place for it, I'd love to see your explanation in private email or by other means. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
On 02/07/12 14:06, Chad Perrin wrote: On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 07:36:46PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: DDa == Da Rock writes: Would you do that with Python or something else? DDa Depending on what you really need to solve decides your DDa language. Others have offered advice here, but may I suggest Perl? DDa For most data and its proven ability to handle/match string data it DDa is very useful. And using tk it will run on windows as well. At this point, there's absolutely nothing that Python can do that Perl can't, and very likely vice versa. However, from personal experience, I know that Larry Wall understands Object Oriented Programming, and Guido definitely doesn't get it. Obviously, other people have worked on both languages, but keep that in mind. I can present my evidence of how Guido doesn't get it in a longer post, if prompted. I'm definitely curious. If you don't think this is the place for it, I'd love to see your explanation in private email or by other means. +1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Kernel stalling at pci0: ACPI bus on pcib0
Hello all, I recently got a HP t5700 thin client that I wanted to turn into a firewall using pfSense. For reference, this system uses a Transmeta Crusoe TM5800 CPU with a VIA chipset that I'm having difficulty identifying. My issue is that about half of the time the kernel will stall during startup after the following: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 3 07:15:25 UTC 2012 r...@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CENERIC i386 CPU: Transmeta(tm) Crusoe(tm) Processor TM5800 (997.69-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = CenuineTMx86 Id = 0x543 Family = 5 Model = 4 Stepping = 3 Features= 0x84893fFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,CX8,SEP,CMOV,PN,MMX real memory = 270532608 (258 MB) avail memory = 226930688 (216 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: I-BASE AWRDACPI on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: Sleep Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 10, eef (3) failed acpi_timer0: couldn't allocate resource (port 0x4008) cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port Oxcf8-0xcff,0x4000-0x407f,0x4080-0x40ff,0x500 0-0x500f on acpi0 pcib0: Length mismatch for 4 range: f00 vs eff pcib0: Length mismatch for 4 range: aff0 vs afef pciO: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 If I power the system off and on again there's about a 50/50 chance it will start up properly, whereupon it will run for days without issue. It's just during startup that I see any problems. I've tried two separate systems of the same model but they both exhibit the same issue, thus suggesting it's not a one-off hardware defect. I tried both pfSense 2.0.1 (which is FreeBSD 8.1-based) and FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE from a USB stick, but they exhibited the same issue. I do see some acpi0 and pcib0 messages in there that seem possibly problematic, but I'm a bit out of my depth here. Could anyone spare a moment to suggest any further troubleshooting steps I might try? Thanks so much for your time! Will ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Kernel stalling at pci0: ACPI bus on pcib0
Hi, On Tuesday 07 February 2012 12:40:09 Will McCutcheon wrote: Hello all, I recently got a HP t5700 thin client that I wanted to turn into a firewall using pfSense. For reference, this system uses a Transmeta Crusoe TM5800 CPU with a VIA chipset that I'm having difficulty identifying. My issue is that about half of the time the kernel will stall during startup after the following: this reminds me of my notebook with the same Crusoe CPU. I have had to leave it with 7.x as newer version gave problems. The problems have been different but it looked like some driver could not handle the peripherals properly. It booted but was unusable. I never tried 9 on it. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
impossible? postfix filter partial virtual domain mailboxes
I have a postfix mta (beauty mate!) and I've managed to twist its panties into a real tight knot by using a filter (smtpd), and through using it to put my isp mail into a local box thanks to fetchmail. The problem I'm facing is that it now won't send mail to any other users on my isp's domain. I did manage to get it working _before_ I put the filter on, I used vtransport tables to tell it to deliver via smtp except _my_ address. Other than that it works fine, and the problem doesn't come up often- usually just about the time I need to complain to my isp (says a lot about their service, doesn't it?), maybe once a year? One thing that did raise my eyebrow when I put the filter in was the receive_override_options, which is set to no_address_mappings. Could this be the issue? What would make me happier is to deliver directly via maildrop, but that raises a lot of other issues... I'd have to figure out how to access the mail via courier, shared folders, etc. I'm not sure that would be worthwhile. Thoughts? TIA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Kernel stalling at pci0: ACPI bus on pcib0
On 02/07/12 15:48, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Tuesday 07 February 2012 12:40:09 Will McCutcheon wrote: Hello all, I recently got a HP t5700 thin client that I wanted to turn into a firewall using pfSense. For reference, this system uses a Transmeta Crusoe TM5800 CPU with a VIA chipset that I'm having difficulty identifying. My issue is that about half of the time the kernel will stall during startup after the following: this reminds me of my notebook with the same Crusoe CPU. I have had to leave it with 7.x as newer version gave problems. The problems have been different but it looked like some driver could not handle the peripherals properly. It booted but was unusable. I never tried 9 on it. Maybe try hackers@? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
