Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.4.rc6 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)

2012-03-06 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:36 AM, David Naylor naylor.b.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tuesday, 6 March 2012 00:01:48 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:00 PM, David Naylor
 naylor.b.da...@gmail.comwrote:
   On Monday, 5 March 2012 14:17:51 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:55 AM, David Naylor
  
   naylor.b.da...@gmail.comwrote:
 Please include the full error message, also could you please try
  
   running
  
 those apps in a clean wine prefix.
   
# pwd
/root/APPLY/PROGRAMS
   
# wine x.exe
   
err : module : LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for
LF:\\APPLY\\PROGRAMS\\x.exe failed , status c017
  
   I have tried to reproduce the error on my side but was unable to.  The
   programs that I tested work without error.
 
  This means that there are additional parts in your system which they do
 not
  exist here .
  Such parts are not added by pkg_add wine-fbsd64 ... .
  I do not have any idea about which parts may be missing .

 It could also mean there are extra components on your computer that are
 interfering however using a clean wine prefix (as mentioned below) has
 ruled
 that out.

   I was expecting more output from wine...  Please see below about using
 a
   clean
   wine prefix.  Do you use the nvidia graphics driver?  If so please run
   (as root), and provide the output:
   # sh /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh
 
  There is NO nvidia grphics driver . It is Intel DG965WH main board with
 its
  integrated graphics driver .

 That eliminates my only other idea.

   If nothing fixes your problem then please submit a bug report at
   bugs.winehq.org.
  
I could not understand the phrase :
   
in a clean wine prefix .
  
   To run a program in a clean wine prefix do:
   env WINEPREFIX=/tmp/tmp_wine_prefix wine x.exe
 
  This is NOT changing the error message . Only drive become Z: .

 As mentioned above, eliminates possible extra components causing
 interference.

   You may need to use winetricks to install some support programs.
  
   Good luck
 
  winetricks could NOT be found .

 Please see http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks for details about winetricks.


Thanks . After my message , I searched winetricks in Google , and find
its links .
I read its list . I think , it will not contain related parts , except ,
perhaps fonts  , comctl .

I have installed fonts , all dll files , run times  , without any effect on
the generated error message .



  I tried wine which is added by
 
  pkg_add -r wine
 
  from packages
 
  in FreeBSD 9.0 RELEASE i386 as it is installed .
 
  On the same programs , the message is the same with amd64 message .

 To clarify: you tried running the program under an i386 installation of
 FreeBSD and wine gave you the same problem?



Yes .

I am using the ( three ) programs in Windows XP continuously and they are
working in there very well .
They are compiled by Delphi .

Previously , in FreeBSD 7.x ( I think 7.0 or 7.1 ) i386 , I have used the
same programs under Wine successfully .



The previous downloads from

wine-fbsd64-1.3.16,1.txz , ...1.3.37,1 ... 1.4.r3,1 ... 1.4.r3,3

series did not work because of errors displayed .


I have tested wine-fbsd64-1.3.16,1.txz now once more .


When the last published one ( 1.4.r4,1 ) also gave error , I decided to
inform you .




 Also, has a previous version of wine ever worked for your program?  Could
 you
 try installing an older version of wine (the mediafire page contains wine
 releases going back to 1.3.16).

 Regards



Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-03-06 Thread Damien Fleuriot


On 3/6/12 7:01 AM, Allen wrote:
 On 2/28/2012 3:03 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
 This is an entirely subjective question and one that only you can answer.

 For example, given the number of problem reports I'm seeing on the
 lists, I'm going to stick with the 8-STABLE branch for still a long
 time, likely until 9.1 or 9.2-RELEASE.
 
 I don't think it's a good idea to let what you see on a mailing list be
 your end all be all of what you use... This isn't an insult or anything,
 but I've seen some pretty damn stupid people who try to install stuff
 into Swap And that isn't even close to the stupidest thing I've ever
 seen on a list. Trust me, the best way to figure out of you personally
 would benefit from upgrading, is doing it yourself.
 

I get your point, however, reports of NICs malfunctionning or stuff like
that are pretty distressing when running frontend firewall boxes.

Seeing 9.0 doesn't bring much to the table, imo, in terms of firewalling
and CARP novelty, I'm probably going to stick with 8.3 for some time :)

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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-03-06 Thread krad
On 6 March 2012 09:49, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote:



 On 3/6/12 7:01 AM, Allen wrote:
  On 2/28/2012 3:03 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
  This is an entirely subjective question and one that only you can
 answer.
 
  For example, given the number of problem reports I'm seeing on the
  lists, I'm going to stick with the 8-STABLE branch for still a long
  time, likely until 9.1 or 9.2-RELEASE.
 
  I don't think it's a good idea to let what you see on a mailing list be
  your end all be all of what you use... This isn't an insult or anything,
  but I've seen some pretty damn stupid people who try to install stuff
  into Swap And that isn't even close to the stupidest thing I've ever
  seen on a list. Trust me, the best way to figure out of you personally
  would benefit from upgrading, is doing it yourself.
 

 I get your point, however, reports of NICs malfunctionning or stuff like
 that are pretty distressing when running frontend firewall boxes.

 Seeing 9.0 doesn't bring much to the table, imo, in terms of firewalling
 and CARP novelty, I'm probably going to stick with 8.3 for some time :)

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apart from a major bump in the version of pf.
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Re: Running OS tftp vs. pxeboot tftp

2012-03-06 Thread Bill Tillman



From: Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.com
To: Erik Nørgaard norga...@locolomo.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: Running OS tftp vs. pxeboot tftp

Hi Erik,

Thanks for getting back to me.  The original problem is the same
issue...we are still working it, but we've isolated the configuration
where the issue manifests itself.  It has to do with the FreeBSD
pxeboot and Brocade switches.  We will continue troubleshooting in our
lab.  When we've identified a fix/workaround I will be sure to follow
up here.

On 3/4/12, Erik Nørgaard norga...@locolomo.org wrote:
 On 01/03/2012 16:16, Rick Miller wrote:
 Hi All,

 Are there significant differences in the implementation between the
 tftp client in FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE and the client implementation in
 pxeboot.bs?

 I have no reason to believe there should be any difference. If you
 believe there is a problem with the supplied pxeboot, you can compile
 your own.

 You previusly wrote about VLAN tagging for your pxeboot nodes, but never
 wrote back if you solved the problem. What's your setup?

 I ask because I have encountered a scenario where pxeboot.bs is
 tftp'ing boot files from a PXE server and fails in random spots while
 attempting to download boot files to start a 8.2-RELEASE install.
 When we run the same sequence of tftp gets in a running 8.2-RELEASE
 instance continuously, we never received a single failure in a solid
 hour of attempts.

 You should have some log or other traces to debug on the problem, can't
 help much without.

 BR, Erik

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Take care
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I can't speak to all the technical nuiances you reference here but I have a 
diskless
booting system which runs 8.2-STABLE and it's been running flawless for several
months. I last did make buildworld on the server's os and the diskless's boot
partition in December...all is well for me.
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Re: sysinstall

2012-03-06 Thread David Walker
Da Rock freebsd-questions at herveybayaustralia.com.au
 What tv card? Mine work fine

Thread here:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-drivers/2012-February/001370.html
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Forum problem..

2012-03-06 Thread Stefan Rink
Hi,

After about 15 minutes of trying to register to the forums I've quit trying!
The server is defective! Captcha's don't work! Can't register of request my 
password.

vBulletin Message

The string you entered for the image verification did not match what was 
displayed.



Greetings,
Stefan Rink
Xtilton

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Re: port to package amd64 to i386

2012-03-06 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote:

 Again, a problem is that packages can only be generated
 if the port has been installed


 Why is that. I hope you can educate me on that.


Because a package is the result of what is installed.  It essentially works
somewhat like Debian's checkinstall by keeping track of what's installed by
the installation script, then using the info of what's installed to build
the package.  I'm not exactly sure how make package works internally, but
it wouldn't surprise me if it's almost the same as pkg_create -b.


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RE: lighttpd + php + external mssql server

2012-03-06 Thread Graeme Dargie


-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Peter Vereshagin
Sent: 04 March 2012 17:05
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: lighttpd + php + external mssql server

Hello.

2012/03/03 00:32:40 + Graeme Dargie a...@tangerine-army.co.uk = To 
'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org' :
GD I am just looking for some advice or hints if anyone has a clue how to make 
a FreeBSD server running lighttpd + php5 connect to an instance of MS SQL 2008 
R2.
GD 
GD I have already installed php-extensions for mssql but when I try and 
GD run a connection from the FreeBSD server it gives a http 500 The 
GD error log has this
GD 2012-03-02 18:20:09: (mod_fastcgi.c.2699) FastCGI-stderr: PHP Fatal 
GD error:  Call to undefined function mssql_connect() in 
GD /usr/local/www/data/
GD 
GD Php -m shows mssql as installed.

1) Command-line php and fastcgi php are able to have a different set of 
extensions. Look at the phpinfo() output from your fastcgi if it has an mssql 
extension.

2) You may want to try an ODBTP extension for mssql connectivity which supports 
mssql features like 'go' clause batch runs and scroll cursors with fetching 
from them on the contrast to the 'traditional' dblib-based mssql php extension.

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You are spot on Peter, phpinfo() shows no mssql extension, so I am guessing the 
next question is does it have such an extension and if so how to enable it, 
there are no make config options for the fastcgi I can see in ports. I am doing 
this so I can do some work at home for a project that will be looked at 
elsewhere so portability is a major concern.

Regards
Graeme
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Alborques Online Art Gallery

2012-03-06 Thread Alborques
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If you have questions or need any further clarification, please contact us
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Re: FreeBSD 8.2 - active plus inactive memory leak!?

2012-03-06 Thread Chuck Swiger

On 3/6/2012 2:13 PM, Luke Marsden wrote:
[ ... ]

My current (probably quite simplistic) understanding of the FreeBSD
virtual memory system is that, for each process as reported by top:

   * Size corresponds to the total size of all the text pages for the
 process (those belonging to code in the binary itself and linked
 libraries) plus data pages (including stack and malloc()'d but
 not-yet-written-to memory segments).


Size is the amount of the processes' VM address space which has been assigned; 
the various things you mention indeed are the common things which consume 
address space, but there are others like shared memory (ie, SysV shmem stuff), 
memory-mapped hardware like a video card VRAM buffer, thread-local storage, etc.



   * Resident corresponds to a subset of the pages above: those pages
 which actually occupy physical/core memory.  Notably pages may
 appear in size but not appear in resident for read-only text
 pages from libraries which have not been used yet or which have
 been malloc()'d but not yet written-to.


Yes.


My understanding for the values for the system as a whole (at the top in
'top') is as follows:

   * Active / inactive memory is the same thing: resident memory from
 processes in use.  Being in the inactive as opposed to active
 list simply indicates that the pages in question are less
 recently used and therefore more likely to get swapped out if
 the machine comes under memory pressure.


Well, they aren't exactly the same thing.  The kernel implements a VM working 
set algorithm which periodically looks at all of the pages that are in memory 
and notes whether a process has accessed that page recently.  If it has, the 
page is active; if the page has not been used for some time, it becomes 
inactive.


If the system has plenty of memory, it will not page or swap anything out.  If 
it is under mild memory pressure, it will only consider pages which are 
inactive or cache as candidates for which it might page them out.  Only under 
more severe memory pressure will it start looking to swap out entire processes 
rather than just page individual pages out.


[ Although, the FreeBSD implementation supposedly will try to balance the size 
of the active, inactive, and cache lists (or queues), so it is looking at the 
active list also-- but you don't want to page out an active page unless you 
really have to, and if you have to do that, maybe you might as well free up 
the whole process and let something have enough room to run. ]



   * Wired is mostly kernel memory.


It's normally all kernel memory; only a rare handful of userland programs such 
as crypto code like gnupg ever ask for wired memory, AFAIK.



   * Cache is freed memory which the kernel has decided to keep in
 case it correspond to a useful page in future; it can be cheaply
 evicted into the free list.


Sort of, although this description fits the inactive memory category also.

The major distinction is that the system is actively trying to flush any dirty 
pages in the cache category, so that they are available for reuse by something 
else immediately.



   * Free memory is actually not being used for anything.


Yes, although the system likes to have at least a few pre-zeroed pages handy 
in case an interrupt handler needs them.



It seems that pages which occur in the active + inactive lists must
occur in the resident memory of one or more processes (or more since
processes can share pages in e.g. read-only shared libs or COW forked
address space).


Everything in the active and inactive (and cache) lists are resident in 
physical memory.



Conversely, if a page *does not* occur in the resident
memory of any process, it must not occupy any space in the active +
inactive lists.


Hmm...if a process gets swapped out entirely, the pages for it will be moved 
to the cache list, flushed, and then reused as soon as the disk I/O completes. 
 But there is a window where the process can be marked as swapped out (and 
considered no longer resident), but still has some of it's pages in physical 
memory.



Therefore the active + inactive memory should always be less than or
equal to the sum of the resident memory of all the processes on the
system, right?


No.  If you've got a lot of process pages shared (ie, a webserver with lots of 
httpd children, or a database pulling in a large common shmem area), then your 
process resident sizes can be very large compared to the system-wide 
active+inactive count.



This missing memory is scary, because it seems to be increasing over
time, and eventually when the system runs out of free memory, I'm
certain it will crash in the same way described in my previous thread
[1].


I don't have enough data to fully evaluate the interactions with ZFS; you can 
easily get system panics by running out of KVA on a 32-bit system, but that 
shouldn't apply 

Re: FreeBSD 8.2 - active plus inactive memory leak!?

2012-03-06 Thread Luke Marsden
Thanks for your email, Chuck.

  Conversely, if a page *does not* occur in the resident
  memory of any process, it must not occupy any space in the active +
  inactive lists.
 
 Hmm...if a process gets swapped out entirely, the pages for it will be moved 
 to the cache list, flushed, and then reused as soon as the disk I/O 
 completes. 
   But there is a window where the process can be marked as swapped out (and 
 considered no longer resident), but still has some of it's pages in physical 
 memory.

There's no swapping happening on these machines (intentionally so,
because as soon as we hit swap everything goes tits up), so this window
doesn't concern me.

I'm trying to confirm that, on a system with no pages swapped out, that
the following is a true statement:

a page is accounted for in active + inactive if and only if it
corresponds to one or more of the pages accounted for in the
resident memory lists of all the processes on the system (as per
the output of 'top' and 'ps')

  Therefore the active + inactive memory should always be less than or
  equal to the sum of the resident memory of all the processes on the
  system, right?
 
 No.  If you've got a lot of process pages shared (ie, a webserver with lots 
 of 
 httpd children, or a database pulling in a large common shmem area), then 
 your 
 process resident sizes can be very large compared to the system-wide 
 active+inactive count.

But that's what I'm saying...

sum(process resident sizes) = active + inactive

Or as I said it above, equivalently:

active + inactive = sum(process resident sizes)

The data I've got from this system, and what's killing us, shows the
opposite: active + inactive  sum(process resident sizes) - by over 5GB
now and growing, which is what keeps causing these machines to crash.

In particular:
Mem: 13G Active, 1129M Inact, 7543M Wired, 120M Cache, 1553M Free

But the total sum of resident memories is 9457M (according to summing
the output from ps or top).

13G + 1129M = 14441M (active + inact)  9457M (sum of res)

That's 4984M out, and that's almost enough to push us over the edge.

If my understanding of VM is correct, I don't see how this can happen.
But it's happening, and it's causing real trouble here because our free
memory keeps hitting zero and then we swap-spiral.

What can I do to investigate this discrepancy?  Are there some tools
that I can use to debug the memory allocated in active to find out
where it's going, if not to resident process memory?

Thanks,
Luke

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Re: FreeBSD 8.2 - active plus inactive memory leak!?

2012-03-06 Thread RW
On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 18:30:07 -0500
Chuck Swiger wrote:

 On 3/6/2012 2:13 PM, Luke Marsden wrote:

 * Resident corresponds to a subset of the pages above: those
  pages which actually occupy physical/core memory.  Notably pages may
   appear in size but not appear in resident for read-only
  text pages from libraries which have not been used yet or which have
   been malloc()'d but not yet written-to.
 
 Yes.
 
  My understanding for the values for the system as a whole (at the
  top in 'top') is as follows:
 
 * Active / inactive memory is the same thing: resident
  memory from processes in use.  Being in the inactive as opposed to
  active list simply indicates that the pages in question are less
   recently used and therefore more likely to get swapped out
  if the machine comes under memory pressure.
 
 Well, they aren't exactly the same thing.  The kernel implements a VM
 working set algorithm which periodically looks at all of the pages
 that are in memory and notes whether a process has accessed that page
 recently.  If it has, the page is active; if the page has not been
 used for some time, it becomes inactive.

I think the previous poster  has it about right, it's mostly about
lifecycle. The inactive queue contains a mixture of resident and
non-resident memory. It's commonly dominated by disk cache pages, and
consequently is easily blown away by recursive greps etc.

 * Cache is freed memory which the kernel has decided to keep
  in case it correspond to a useful page in future; it can be cheaply
   evicted into the free list.
 
 Sort of, although this description fits the inactive memory
 category also.
 
 The major distinction is that the system is actively trying to flush
 any dirty pages in the cache category, so that they are available for
 reuse by something else immediately.

Only clean pages are added to cache. A dirty page will go twice around
the inactive queue as dirty, get flushed and then do a third pass as a
clean page. 

The point of cache is that it's a small stock of memory that's
available for immediate reuse, the pages have nothing else in common.



On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 00:36:21 +
Luke Marsden wrote:

 But that's what I'm saying...
 
 sum(process resident sizes) = active + inactive


Inactive memory contains disc cache. 
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Re: port to package amd64 to i386

2012-03-06 Thread Da Rock

On 03/07/12 04:13, Adam Vande More wrote:

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Bernt Hanssonb...@bananmonarki.se  wrote:


Again, a problem is that packages can only be generated

if the port has been installed


Why is that. I hope you can educate me on that.


Because a package is the result of what is installed.  It essentially works
somewhat like Debian's checkinstall by keeping track of what's installed by
the installation script, then using the info of what's installed to build
the package.  I'm not exactly sure how make package works internally, but
it wouldn't surprise me if it's almost the same as pkg_create -b.
From what I understand of ports (as a maintainer) that is the case; 
plus some other bits and pieces for checking, verification, and cleanup.

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Re: sysinstall

2012-03-06 Thread Da Rock

On 03/07/12 01:01, David Walker wrote:

Da Rock freebsd-questions at herveybayaustralia.com.au

What tv card? Mine work fine

Thread here:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-drivers/2012-February/001370.html
May have to do with the cx88 port available, especially as its from 2006 
(last word 2008). I would put my money on that as a solution, which is 
why I couldn't quite understand why you said it didn't work.


CX88 has been available since 2010. Comes with apps, and also means to 
make all the v4l based apps (like xine, mplayer) work as well.


I would doubt that that pr will ever go through for that reason.
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Some questions about Link Aggregation and Failover

2012-03-06 Thread bo wang
Hello:
  Recently I want to do Link Aggregation for increasing the
speed. I use a Cisco 3750 Switche and two IBM Server R   with BSD
9.0 .I do link aggregation According to this page.
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-aggregation.html
  I use LACP .But when i have done ,the link aggregation  only can
do Failover  .It cann't increase the  speed. What is the
problem?Detailed configuration as follows

in the BSD9.0  /etc/rc.conf
hostname=bbc04
ifconfig_bce2=up
ifconfig_bce3=up
ifconfig_bce4=up
ifconfig_bce5=up
ifconfig_bce6=up
ifconfig_bce7=up
cloned_interfaces=lagg0
ifconfig_lagg0=laggproto loadbalance laggport bce2 laggport bce3
laggport bce4 laggport bce5 laggport bce6 laggport bce7
ipv4_addrs_lagg0=172.16.60.64/16
defaultrouter=172.16.0.1
sshd_enable=YES
pureftpd_enable=YES
# Set dumpdev to AUTO to enable crash dumps, NO to disable
dumpdev=NO

the Cisco 3750 configure
interface range gigabitEthernet 1/0/1-6
channel-proto lacp
channel-group 1 mode active


interface range gigabitEthernet 1/0/13-18
channel-proto lacp
channel-group 2 mode active
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