Can't install WindowMaker

2012-03-11 Thread Sabine Baer
Sorry if I'm totally wrong here but I don't know where to ask.

I'm using WindowMaker as my window manager for some years. I do not
remember why, but some days ago, I deinstalled ist. Now, I can't
install it.

$uname -rp
 |7.4-STABLE amd64

#portmaster -aD
|all up to date (had a long run of updating gcc46 and others this
|morning)

#portmaster /x11-wm/windomaker
 |[...]
 |handlers.c:542: warning: implicit declaration of function 'FD_ISSET'
 |*** Error code 1
 |mv -f .deps/findfile.Tpo .deps/findfile.Plo
 |1 error
 |*** Error code 1
 |1 error
 |*** Error code 1
 |1 error
 |*** Error code 2
 |1 error
 |*** Error code 1
 |
 |Stop in /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker.
 |
 |=== make failed for x11-wm/windowmaker
 |=== Aborting update
 |
 |Terminated
 |
 |=== You can restart from the point of failure with this command
 |line:
 |   portmaster flags x11-wm/windowmaker

I haven't any clue what might go wrong. Searching google didn't bring
any help.
I can use fluxbox or twm, but I want my WindowMaker back :-(

Sabine
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Re: Can't install WindowMaker

2012-03-11 Thread jb
Sabine Baer baerks at t-online.de writes:

 
 Sorry if I'm totally wrong here but I don't know where to ask.
 
 I'm using WindowMaker as my window manager for some years. I do not
 remember why, but some days ago, I deinstalled ist. Now, I can't
 install it.
 ...

Why not try:
# pkg_add -r windowmaker 

You should check any refs to windowmaker in:
/usr/ports/UPDATING
before compiling its port.
jb


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Re: Suggestion

2012-03-11 Thread ajtiM
On Saturday 10 March 2012 17:36:53 Da Rock wrote:

 No system is actually truly capable of this, with the exception of the
 newest kid on the block Plan9. Winblows, in its current form, is the
 bastard love child of DOS and some black sheep cousin of Unix
 (twice-removed), so its not happening there either; just some sleight of
 hand tricks to partially achieve the result with a decrease of security
 to boot.
 

IMO it is the Microsoft and CO. tactics how to eliminate concurency - Unix, 
Mac... They never tried to be better...


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Re: Suggestion

2012-03-11 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700
Erich Dollansky articulated:

   FAT rules!  
  
  Uh . . . what?  
 
 It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ...

And for a very good reason; it is virtually universally usable by any
operating system. However, the exFAT system is becoming more
prevalent due to its more versatile design.

To use a camera as an example, any manufacturer that would use a file
system that was not compatible with MS Windows would be driving the
company into bankruptcy. There are dozens of Windows based applications
that can handle images stored on various types of cameras At best,
there are only a few designed for the non-Windows world, and they work
like crap, if you can get one to work at all. They are all feature
poor, again assuming you can get one to actually work without having
an engineering degree.

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Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?

2012-03-11 Thread Julian H. Stacey
 No -- you were not imagining things.  The DNS for freebsd.org was
 temporarily broken.  It was that most impossible to remove of causes:
 human error.

Thats good,  as it means not sun spots aka EMP aka gammma :-)

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?

2012-03-11 Thread Robert Huff
Julian H. Stacey writes:

   No -- you were not imagining things.  The DNS for freebsd.org was
   temporarily broken.  It was that most impossible to remove of causes:
   human error.
  
  Thats good,  as it means not sun spots aka EMP aka gammma :-)

Hulk _not_ eat sushi near puny human puny machine!


Robert Huff

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Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?

2012-03-11 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:16:25 +0100
Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote:

  No -- you were not imagining things.  The DNS for freebsd.org was
  temporarily broken.  It was that most impossible to remove of
  causes: human error.
 
 Thats good,  as it means not sun spots aka EMP aka gammma :-)
 
 Cheers,
 Julian

Or the first ominous foreshadowing of the apocalyptic event(s) to unfold
later this year, come December.  :-)

I mean, if FreeBSD's DNS can go down, The End must certainly be near.
The falcon cannot hear the falconer.  Things fall apart.  The center
cannot hold.  Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, and so on and so
forth.

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Re: Suggestion

2012-03-11 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:
 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700
 Erich Dollansky articulated:

   FAT rules!
 
  Uh . . . what?

 It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ...

 And for a very good reason; it is virtually universally usable by any
 operating system. However, the exFAT system is becoming more
 prevalent due to its more versatile design.



The only reason it's so popular is not precisely for good design.

It's only because of Microsoft's dominance of the market. They
achieved this dominance not by providing good software, but rather by
user the drug dealer's / gangster model in which they are very lax
about people copying their crappy software, and then pressuring them
into paying out with the BSA. Meanwhile, people became dependent
(addicted) to their file formats such as xls and doc, in a vicious
cycle making Microsoft ever more powerful over people's will.

They didn't kill off the competition by providing better products and
services, they just bullied their way through by threatening
distributors and hardware manufacturers, and later consumers. Today,
Microsoft is still doing this by providing free software to third
world schools and governments, much like Nestle does by providing
free powdered milks and baby formula in Africa, or like Monsanto
does when providing super seeds to struggling farmers.

As I heard someone say recently if Al Capone were alive today he'd
run a tech company.

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Re: Suggestion

2012-03-11 Thread Chris
... Ah yes, trying to feed the world where hunger is rampant is an evil thing 
when done by  corporate insert name here.

Yes, I believe I see the relationship 
/Sarcasm

Sent from my HTC.

- Reply message -
From: Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org
Date: Sun, Mar 11, 2012 9:46 am
Subject: Suggestion
To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:
 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700
 Erich Dollansky articulated:

   FAT rules!
 
  Uh . . . what?

 It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ...

 And for a very good reason; it is virtually universally usable by any
 operating system. However, the exFAT system is becoming more
 prevalent due to its more versatile design.



The only reason it's so popular is not precisely for good design.

It's only because of Microsoft's dominance of the market. They
achieved this dominance not by providing good software, but rather by
user the drug dealer's / gangster model in which they are very lax
about people copying their crappy software, and then pressuring them
into paying out with the BSA. Meanwhile, people became dependent
(addicted) to their file formats such as xls and doc, in a vicious
cycle making Microsoft ever more powerful over people's will.

They didn't kill off the competition by providing better products and
services, they just bullied their way through by threatening
distributors and hardware manufacturers, and later consumers. Today,
Microsoft is still doing this by providing free software to third
world schools and governments, much like Nestle does by providing
free powdered milks and baby formula in Africa, or like Monsanto
does when providing super seeds to struggling farmers.

As I heard someone say recently if Al Capone were alive today he'd
run a tech company.

-- 
Alejandro Imass
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Re: Suggestion

2012-03-11 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Chris rac...@makeworld.com wrote:
 ... Ah yes, trying to feed the world where hunger is rampant is an evil
 thing when done by  corporate insert name here.


Ah yes, the ignorance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott
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Re: Suggestion

2012-03-11 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Chris rac...@makeworld.com wrote:
 ... Ah yes, trying to feed the world where hunger is rampant is an evil
 thing when done by  corporate insert name here.


 Ah yes, the ignorance

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott

And you say there is no relationship:

http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/microsoft-versus-open-source-in-the-third-world-20021115/
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Joseph Campbell on PBS today

2012-03-11 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
Didn't you mention Joseph Campbell not too long ago, in response to my
Hash Wednesday mailing, referring to the importance/necessity of
rituals?

Well, today at noon on Channel 12, they'll be airing a program titled
Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth with Bill Moyers.  Three (3)
hours long it is!  From the description on TV Guide, it sounds like
it should be quite interesting.

Preceding it there's Peter, Paul and Mary: 25th Anniversay Concert
(from 1986).  They're doing Puff, The Magic Dragon as I write this.
:-)  Loved that song when I was an innocent young little boy.  I always
associated it with the Cecil and Beany cartoon show.  :-)

Have a pleasant and relaxing Sunday.

Conrad

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Re: Suggestion

2012-03-11 Thread Chris
... One word that is rampant... Alligations

Sent from my HTC.

- Reply message -
From: Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org
Date: Sun, Mar 11, 2012 10:04 am
Subject: Suggestion
To: Chris rac...@makeworld.com
Cc: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org


On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Chris rac...@makeworld.com wrote:
 ... Ah yes, trying to feed the world where hunger is rampant is an evil
 thing when done by  corporate insert name here.


Ah yes, the ignorance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott
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Re: Suggestion

2012-03-11 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:13:09 -0400
Alejandro Imass articulated:

 On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org
 wrote:
  On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Chris rac...@makeworld.com
  wrote:
  ... Ah yes, trying to feed the world where hunger is rampant is an
  evil thing when done by  corporate insert name here.
 
 
  Ah yes, the ignorance
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott
 
 And you say there is no relationship:
 
 http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/microsoft-versus-open-source-in-the-third-world-20021115/

Seriously, did anyone bother to look at the dates of those articles?

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Re: Joseph Campbell on PBS today

2012-03-11 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:54 -0500
Conrad J. Sabatier articulated:

{snip}

WTF

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Re: Joseph Campbell on PBS today

2012-03-11 Thread Steve Bertrand

On 2012-03-11 11:38, Jerry wrote:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:54 -0500
Conrad J. Sabatier articulated:

{snip}

WTF


With this, the ReactOS crap, and the Microsoft sucks debacle, I woke up 
this morning thinking it may be April 1st :)


Steve
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Re: Can't install WindowMaker

2012-03-11 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 09:17:50AM +0100, Sabine Baer wrote:
 Sorry if I'm totally wrong here but I don't know where to ask.

Posting this to questions is fine, IMO. freebsd-ports would also be
appropriate.

 I'm using WindowMaker as my window manager for some years. I do not
 remember why, but some days ago, I deinstalled ist. Now, I can't
 install it.
 
 $uname -rp
  |7.4-STABLE amd64

It compiles fine here (9.0-RELEASE amd64). 

 #portmaster /x11-wm/windomaker
  |[...]
  |handlers.c:542: warning: implicit declaration of function 'FD_ISSET'
  |*** Error code 1

FD_ISSET is a macro in /usr/include/sys/select.h, at least on 9.0. Check if
that file exists and is readable.

Check if the file config.h[1] in the windowmaker source tree (generated by
configure) contains the line '#define HAVE_SELECT 1'.
[1: /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.95.2/config.h]
If this is not defined, and the file exists, it is a bug in the configure
script.

As a workaround, try removing the '#ifdef' and '#endif' lines around the '#
include sys/select.h' line in the file handlers.c[2], then re-start the
compilation process (by running 'make' from the port's directory). Don't
re-start the portmaster command, as that will undo your changes. If the build
goes OK, issue the command 'make install clean' from the port's directory.
[2: /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.95.2/WINGs/handlers.c]

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Re: Joseph Campbell on PBS today

2012-03-11 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Steve Bertrand wrote:
 On 2012-03-11 11:38, Jerry wrote:
  On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:54 -0500
  Conrad J. Sabatier articulated:
 
  {snip}
 
  WTF
 
 With this, the ReactOS crap, and the Microsoft sucks debacle, I woke up 
 this morning thinking it may be April 1st :)

Yes.  To restore signal to noise ratio, would be good if some people
on questions@ also subscribed  posted certain threads to
freebsd-advocacy@
freebsd-chat@
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/

Cheers,
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Re: Can't install WindowMaker

2012-03-11 Thread Sabine Baer
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 05:41:41PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
 
 [...]

 FD_ISSET is a macro in /usr/include/sys/select.h, at least on 9.0. Check if
 that file exists and is readable.
 
 Check if the file config.h[1] in the windowmaker source tree (generated by
 configure) contains the line '#define HAVE_SELECT 1'.
 [1: /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.95.2/config.h]
 If this is not defined, and the file exists, it is a bug in the configure
 script.
 
 As a workaround, try removing the '#ifdef' and '#endif' lines around the '#
 include sys/select.h' line in the file handlers.c[2], then re-start the
 compilation process (by running 'make' from the port's directory). Don't
 re-start the portmaster command, as that will undo your changes. If the build
 goes OK, issue the command 'make install clean' from the port's directory.
 [2: /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.95.2/WINGs/handlers.c]
 
Thanks a lot, I'll have a try.

Sabine

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Re: Can't install WindowMaker

2012-03-11 Thread Sabine Baer
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:29:18AM +, jb wrote:
 
 [...]

 Why not try:
 # pkg_add -r windowmaker 

I never used this method, I prefer compiling (don't know why, it's
only feeling).

 You should check any refs to windowmaker in:
 /usr/ports/UPDATING
 before compiling its port.

I have done that but couldn't find anything relative.

Thanks for answering anyway.

Sabine

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Re: Can't install WindowMaker

2012-03-11 Thread jb
Sabine Baer baerks at t-online.de writes:

 ...

After your ports updates, do not forget to test integrity of ports:
# portmaster --check-depends
# portmaster --check-port-dbdir
and retry the compilation again.
jb
 
 




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Re: Suggestion

2012-03-11 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 On Sunday 11 March 2012 10:53:26 Chad Perrin wrote:
  On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:31:33PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
   FAT rules!
  
  Uh . . . what?
 
 It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ...

Sorry, you must be wrong. I tried to FORMAT.EXE my toaster
but it didn't work. It turned into a bread slicer instead.
Maybe the toaster is too old and requires paper tape... :-)



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hack.So: could not read symbols

2012-03-11 Thread Fernando Apesteguía
I'm using 9.0-RELEASE.

I downloaded the snapshot 9.0-CURRENT-201012 and tried to build it's
kernel but I get this error:

hack.So: could not read symbols: File in wrong format

file reports this:

ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically
linked, not stripped

I compared this file with the same file generated during the
compilation of the 9.0-RELEASE GENERIC kernel and they are identical.

What's the problem here?

Thanks in advance
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Mounting a samba share on boot?

2012-03-11 Thread Льоша Лоїк
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Re: Joseph Campbell on PBS today

2012-03-11 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:03:02 +0100
Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote:

 Steve Bertrand wrote:
  On 2012-03-11 11:38, Jerry wrote:
   On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:54 -0500
   Conrad J. Sabatier articulated:
  
   {snip}
  
 WTF
  
  With this, the ReactOS crap, and the Microsoft sucks debacle, I
  woke up this morning thinking it may be April 1st :)
 
 Yes.  To restore signal to noise ratio, would be good if some people
 on questions@ also subscribed  posted certain threads to
   freebsd-advocacy@
   freebsd-chat@
 http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/
 
 Cheers,
 Julian

Sorry 'bout that, folks.  I was reading my freebsd-questions folder at
the time, for which I have an auto To: address setup, and wanted to
mail a friend of mine to tell her about this TV program, but forgot I
was in the folder and needed to remove the auto address.

Gotta watch out more carefully for that sort of thing.  This is not the
first time I've done this.  Very embarrassing, to say the least.

I need to sleep, I think.  :-)

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Re: Suggestion

2012-03-11 Thread Robert Huff

Alejandro Imass writes:

 FAT rules!
   
Uh . . . what?
  
   It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ...
  
  The only reason it's so popular is not precisely for good design.

I can think of two:
Its properties are well understood.
There are a multitude of drivers, at least some well-coded.
Many are even open source.  :-)

And for one of its tasks - as a format for media to be read
by multiple devices, presumably under the control of/with the
permission of a single person - what exactly is the better
alternative?


Robert Huff

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Re: Mounting a samba share on boot?

2012-03-11 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:20:15 +0400, Льоша Лоїк wrote:
{ nothing }

Even though you wrote nothing, I assume that the subject
Mounting a samba share on boot? contains your question.

Answer:

You can put the required line in /etc/fstab, and provide
access details (workgroup, user, password and such stuff)
in /etc/nsmb.conf.

See the manpages for fstab, nsmb.conf and mount_smbfs for
details.

If you encounter problems with networking _not_ being up
when the mount is performed, see the late option described
in man mount. This option is often used for network-mounted
file systems.




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Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?

2012-03-11 Thread Robert
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:39:32 -0500
Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net wrote:

 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:16:25 +0100
 Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote:
 
   No -- you were not imagining things.  The DNS for freebsd.org was
   temporarily broken.  It was that most impossible to remove of
   causes: human error.
  
  Thats good,  as it means not sun spots aka EMP aka gammma :-)
  
  Cheers,
  Julian
 
 Or the first ominous foreshadowing of the apocalyptic event(s) to
 unfold later this year, come December.  :-)
 
 I mean, if FreeBSD's DNS can go down, The End must certainly be near.
 The falcon cannot hear the falconer.  Things fall apart.  The center
 cannot hold.  Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, and so on and so
 forth.
 
Let's just blame it on Bush! Everybody else does.
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Re: Joseph Campbell on PBS today

2012-03-11 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:16:54AM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:54 -0500
 From: Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net
 Subject: Joseph Campbell on PBS today
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jennifer Blalock blaloc...@gmail.com
 Cc: 
 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0)
 
 Didn't you mention Joseph Campbell not too long ago, in response to my
 Hash Wednesday mailing, referring to the importance/necessity of
 rituals?
 
 Well, today at noon on Channel 12, they'll be airing a program titled
 Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth with Bill Moyers.  Three (3)
 hours long it is!  From the description on TV Guide, it sounds like
 it should be quite interesting.
 
[ .]

Thanks for this.  i have all of prof campbell's first [13
hour] series in DVD in my bookcase; i've got the stuff with
moyers on audio.  i =did= pay for the original series.  be
nice if there were a way of capturing the moyers interview
...altho i've seen it at least twice; the tapes are worn
out!

gary

ps: for general interest: check out KBTC-TV, at 14:00 PDT.
[UCT-7] 
 
 Conrad
 
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 conr...@cox.net
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Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?

2012-03-11 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:36:28 -0700
Robert travelin...@cox.net wrote:

 Let's just blame it on Bush! Everybody else does.

Are you sure it wasn't the evildoers?  You know, the terrists?
Maybe laying the groundwork for a nucular strike?

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Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?

2012-03-11 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:36:28 -0700
Robert articulated:

 Let's just blame it on Bush! Everybody else does.

Unless you are a right wing fascist; i.e. Limbaugh or Hannity, then you
blame Obama or Clinton.

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Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?

2012-03-11 Thread Al Plant

Matthew Seaman wrote:

On 10/03/2012 23:41, Da Rock wrote:

On 03/11/12 07:01, Mark Felder wrote:

On 10.03.2012 14:43, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:

Earlier today, for a period of about 30-45 minutes or so, any attempt to
connect to www.freebsd.org was yielding failed hostname lookups.



Did anyone else notice this?  Any word on what was causing it?  I have
to admit, it was rather startling at first.



Do you have any further details? What are you using for DNS servers,
or are you doing lookups yourself?



Actually, around the same time others were reporting another site (not
fbsd, which I could access easily) was broken. So maybe a dark cloud
passed over? ;)


No -- you were not imagining things.  The DNS for freebsd.org was
temporarily broken.  It was that most impossible to remove of causes:
human error.

Cheers,

Matthew




Aloha,

Ah, To Bad Matthew,

I was going to ask if it was the pesky Solar flares.

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oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-11 Thread Gary Kline
guys,

i made the mistake that conrad did when replying.  i could make e
excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont.

here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or
radio stream for later replay?  or is that illegal, too?

gray



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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-11 Thread Joshua Isom

On 3/11/2012 3:28 PM, Gary Kline wrote:

guys,

i made the mistake that conrad did when replying.  i could make e
excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont.

here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or
radio stream for later replay?  or is that illegal, too?

gray





For capturing, I believe linux is your best bet.  I had tried using the 
bktr driver, but I couldn't get it to work properly with the card I had. 
 It could work somewhat from what I remember.  The card was my 
brother's and he used it under linux, but he upgraded to a better one.


Legality should be the same as a VCR/DVR, personal use only and don't 
redistribute.

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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-11 Thread Al Plant

Gary Kline wrote:

guys,

i made the mistake that conrad did when replying.  i could make e
excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont.

here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or
radio stream for later replay?  or is that illegal, too?

gray




Aloha,

Most Public Radio stations have the programs in podcast form from their 
websites. I have had TV stations send me dvd's of broadcasts that my 
Wife has been on here in Hawaii. I think asking the media will get you 
results.


Many of us on the FreeBSD questions list seem to have writing 
backgrounds and are interested in Joseph Campbell and his developments 
in writing and storytelling audio and video process.


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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-11 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or
 radio stream for later replay?

I've been using a BrookTree (Haupauge WinTV) PCI card for
capturing from TV which worked very good using the standard
programs mplayer and mencoder.

For capturing TV programs, there may be some service like
the Online TV Recoder which I occassionally use. Maybe this
works also for radio programs?

Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind
of media streams. There are tools for that available.



 or is that illegal, too?

Yes, it is. It's also illegal to listen to MP3 in the US. :-)




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Re: Suggestion

2012-03-11 Thread Da Rock

On 03/11/12 21:03, ajtiM wrote:

On Saturday 10 March 2012 17:36:53 Da Rock wrote:


No system is actually truly capable of this, with the exception of the
newest kid on the block Plan9. Winblows, in its current form, is the
bastard love child of DOS and some black sheep cousin of Unix
(twice-removed), so its not happening there either; just some sleight of
hand tricks to partially achieve the result with a decrease of security
to boot.


IMO it is the Microsoft and CO. tactics how to eliminate concurency - Unix,
Mac... They never tried to be better...
Hah! They didn't need to. The guys who designed Unix finally wound up 
their work once ported, and then said we can do a lot better now and 
Plan9 was born. The change was too dramatic for commerce to change for 
supposedly little reward, and so Plan9 was left on the backburner while 
a lot of its features were integrated into other *nix platforms (rc, 
file based devices, etc).


So in a way they did try to be better, but not exactly with the original 
designers blessing. And Plan9 is still an immature child... shame.

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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-11 Thread Da Rock

On 03/12/12 07:19, Polytropon wrote:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or
radio stream for later replay?

I've been using a BrookTree (Haupauge WinTV) PCI card for
capturing from TV which worked very good using the standard
programs mplayer and mencoder.

For capturing TV programs, there may be some service like
the Online TV Recoder which I occassionally use. Maybe this
works also for radio programs?

Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind
of media streams. There are tools for that available.
There is cx88 in the ports which will cover a lot of pci devices, and 
webcamd covers just about all the rest. Then use mplayer or another tool 
to record the stream.


And if you're real tricky you can set it to record at a specific time 
and shut off at another specified time... :) I wrote a script for this; 
a bit hackish, but it gets the job done. I have to clean it up someday 
when I have the spare time.

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Re: Suggestion

2012-03-11 Thread Bernt Hansson

2012-03-11 18:42, Polytropon skrev:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:

On Sunday 11 March 2012 10:53:26 Chad Perrin wrote:

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:31:33PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:

FAT rules!


Uh . . . what?


It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ...


Sorry, you must be wrong. I tried to FORMAT.EXE my toaster


Perhaps you didn't plug it in right. Sata, FW or usb.
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