Re: HOWTO: FreeBSD ZFS Madness (Boot Environments)

2012-04-27 Thread vermaden
 Hi,
 
 do you know manageBE? Google for it, it is the first
 hit. This works for me like a charm since about a year.
 
 Bye,
 Alexander.

Hi,

yes I know and used manageBE for a while, I even mentioned it
in the HOWTO (quote below) but thought that making *beadm*
that is compatible with Illumos/Solaris version would be nice
idea, *beadm* is also more comfortable to use, at least for me.

Mine *beadm* has also a feature to activate BE's from other
machines.
 
 Illumos/Solaris has the beadm(1M) [4] utility and while
 Philipp Wuensche wrote the manageBE script as
 replacement [5], it uses older style used at times when
 OpenSolaris (and SUN) were still having a great time.
 I last couple of days writing an up-to-date replacement for
 FreeBSD compatible beadm utility, and with some tweaks
 from today I just made it available at SourceForge [6] if You
 wish to test it. Currently its about 200 lines long, so it should
 be pretty simple to take a look at it. I tried to make it as
 compatible as possible with the 'upstream' version, along
 with some small improvements, it currently supports basic
 functions like list, create, destroy and activate.

(...)

 There are several subtle differences between mine
 implementation and Philipp's one, he defines and then relies
 upon ZFS property called freebsd:boot-environment=1 for
 each boot environment, I do not set any other additional
 ZFS properties. There is already org.freebsd:swap property
 used for SWAP on FreeBSD, so we may use org.freebsd:be in
 the future, but is just a thought, right now its not used. My
 version also supports activating boot environments received
 with zfs recv command from other systems (it just updates
 appreciate /boot/zfs/zpool.cache file).

Regards,
vermaden





























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Re: Python module wnck?

2012-04-27 Thread Rod Person
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 03:54:29 + (UTC)
Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  How many of the screenlets actually work? When I was working on
  this I found that a number of them where too linux specific to
  work. I have a screenshot of the sticky note and weather working
  but that's about all I can recall working.
 
  I only wanted three: Clock, ClearCalendar and ClearWeather. They
  work perfectly. I haven't tried any of the others.
  
  Consider making a port.  Clearly there is some demand.
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/
 
 For the Python wnck module, or for screenlets? I'm afraid that 
 technically I am well short of the ability to do either. I am more
 than willing to help anyone who elects to so, though.

 Incidentally (and this is addressed to Rod mainly), the ClearWeather 
 module was broken. I had to hack it a bit to get it to work properly.
 It got confused over proxies, but since I am not unfamiliar with
 Python, that presented no difficulty.
 

Creating a port itself is rather simple...it the porting of the code
from Linux to FreeBSD that is the hard part. I have one official port
that I made as a way to brush off my C skills, it works but it was hell
getting some of the Linux specific translated but thanks to one of the
committers it got cleaned up...

But anyway, the issues with screenlets is getting any of the screenlets
that interface with the system to work such as Mount, MyIP, Netmonitor
or the CPU Meter, when I tried this with FreeBSD 7.2 none of them worked
because of all the Linux device names. 

If you know python this should not be too hard just time consuming. The
only reason I stopped working on this was I moved from using OpenBox to
using the i3 window manager.

I can check around and see if I still have any thing I worked on laying
around but I'm not sure about that...I changed hard disks since then.

I do love python so I would not be adversed to working on some of the
individual screenlet modules.


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fusefs-ntfs panic after update to 9.0-RELEASE....

2012-04-27 Thread Eric Schuele
All,

I've been using fusefs-ntfs for quite a while with no issues for my ntfs
needs in 8.x

I recently updated to 9.0-RELEASE, and now my machine panics upon
writing to an ntfs mount.  I did rebuild all fusefs-ntfs ports after the
upgrade.

Anyone else experiencing this or similar? 

Thanks,
Eric



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Synchronising jails

2012-04-27 Thread Frank Staals

Hey Everyone,

I'm looking for a way to synchronise two jails. More specifically, I
would like to keep/maintain an exact copy of a given jail. As an
example: Suppose I build a jail A on some system (in my particular case
build with ezjail) , and I copy the jail
into jail B on some other system (using tar, as is mentioned
here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=17813). Now stuff
happens in Jail A, e.g. files change, new stuff is installed etc. I
would like to propagate these changes to jail B, but since the transfer
is over WAN I would like not to have to copy the entire jail again, just
the stuff that has changed since the last backup. It is safe to assume
nothing in Jail B changes: I basically want to maintain the exact copy
so if something would happen to the system running Jail A I can
immediately switch to jail B without much hassle. 

Normally I would say this a perfect use case for rsync. But as the
aforementioned thread mentions ``scp or similar wont work to copy a
jail'', and I consider rsync similar to scp, I am under the impression
that rsync would not be usable in this situation. Can anyone shed some
light on this, or suggest an alternative to synchronise the jails?  


Regards, 

-- 

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Performance and mouse problems

2012-04-27 Thread Albert Shih
Hi all

I've got two very strange problem

I'm running 9-stable on a Dell Laptop E4200. 

Since this morning when I put a USB mouse (I've try three mouses to be
sure) it's not working. The kernel and HAL see the mouse but Xorg don't
seem do anything. 

The second point is the load of the system is alway more than 1 (~1.5-2)
event I do nothing. I kill all services, daemon, software and the load
never drop. 

I've stop : 

hald
dbus
powerd
etc...

and ps don't show any process eating some ressource. But the load is high
(and the laptop is very hot).

I make a csup of world and build new userland, and news kernel. And nothing
change

HELP...please.

Regards.

-- 
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Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71
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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-27 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 06:43:06PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:52:56 -0600
 Chad Perrin articulated:
 
 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:45:53PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
  
  Generic skills aren't recognized because they're hard to judge and
  test for.  People want quantifiable, objective things to weed out
  applicants.  This is also why credit scoring has become so popular --
  sure, someone's credit score may not tell whether they'd be a good
  employee or not, but it's a convenient, objective way to throw out a
  bunch of resumes.
 
 Indeed -- and the employer who bucks this trend does him/her self a
 huge service, because large numbers of very skilled and/or talented
 people are being rejected on entirely arbitrary criteria that have
 little or no correlation to their ability to do the job.  People who
 use such critera are forcing themselves to compete with everyone else
 in the industry using the same criteria, leaving a glut of job
 candidates who would be great at the job waiting for someone else to
 give them a chance.
 
 Wouldn't it be far easier for this glut of job applicants to either
 become proficient in the skills stated in the job description for which
 they are applying or do what everyone else does; i.e. lie on their
 résumé. If the mountain will not come to Mahomet, Mahomet must go to
 the mountain.

1. Pretty much every employer has a slightly different list of keywords.
I guess you think all these job candidates should learn every skill in
the world.

2. Lying is bad.  Go fall in a hole, now.

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Re: Performance and mouse problems

2012-04-27 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Albert Shih albert.s...@obspm.fr wrote:

 Hi all

 I've got two very strange problem

 I'm running 9-stable on a Dell Laptop E4200.

 Since this morning when I put a USB mouse (I've try three mouses to be
 sure) it's not working. The kernel and HAL see the mouse but Xorg don't
 seem do anything.

 The second point is the load of the system is alway more than 1 (~1.5-2)
 event I do nothing. I kill all services, daemon, software and the load
 never drop.

 I've stop :

hald
dbus
powerd
etc...

 and ps don't show any process eating some ressource. But the load is high
 (and the laptop is very hot).

 I make a csup of world and build new userland, and news kernel. And nothing
 change


http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html

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Re: fusefs-ntfs panic after update to 9.0-RELEASE....

2012-04-27 Thread doug

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Eric Schuele wrote:


All,

I've been using fusefs-ntfs for quite a while with no issues for my ntfs
needs in 8.x

I recently updated to 9.0-RELEASE, and now my machine panics upon
writing to an ntfs mount.  I did rebuild all fusefs-ntfs ports after the
upgrade.

Anyone else experiencing this or similar?

Similar maybe, I moved from kde 3.5 == xfce 4.8. When upgrading my workstation 
to 9.0, I installed the following fusefs packages:


  fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1.20080208_8
  fusefs-libs-2.7.4
  fusefs-sshfs-2.2

Every so often various errors come up. Unfortunately I can not diagnose the 
various issues because xorg 7.5 removes the ability to switch to a vty. I get no 
kernel panics and no core dumps. My symptoms are various low level services 
cease. Last time I could not terminate any tasks. I had thought this one was 
related to geany as I had just opened a file. However I routinely have at least 
one sshfs mount going, sometimes 2.


As I recall, my symptoms to date have been: no task can terminate, mouse stops 
working, and a total system lockup. These events were seemingly random. I will 
stop using sshfs for a bit and see what happens.

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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-27 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:32:24 -0600
Chad Perrin articulated:

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 06:43:06PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:52:56 -0600
 Chad Perrin articulated:
 
 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:45:53PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
  
  Generic skills aren't recognized because they're hard to judge and
  test for.  People want quantifiable, objective things to weed out
  applicants.  This is also why credit scoring has become so
  popular -- sure, someone's credit score may not tell whether
  they'd be a good employee or not, but it's a convenient,
  objective way to throw out a bunch of resumes.
 
 Indeed -- and the employer who bucks this trend does him/her self a
 huge service, because large numbers of very skilled and/or talented
 people are being rejected on entirely arbitrary criteria that have
 little or no correlation to their ability to do the job.  People who
 use such critera are forcing themselves to compete with everyone
 else in the industry using the same criteria, leaving a glut of job
 candidates who would be great at the job waiting for someone else to
 give them a chance.
 
 Wouldn't it be far easier for this glut of job applicants to either
 become proficient in the skills stated in the job description for
 which they are applying or do what everyone else does; i.e. lie on
 their résumé. If the mountain will not come to Mahomet, Mahomet must
 go to the mountain.

1. Pretty much every employer has a slightly different list of
keywords. I guess you think all these job candidates should learn
every skill in the world.

No, I think they should learn the one(s) most sought after in their
chosen field. If 90% of the potential openings in a specific field are
requesting proficiency with MS Word, what do you think any legitimate
applicants should become proficient in?

2. Lying is bad.  Go fall in a hole, now.

Yes, but it is never-the-less the norm on way too many resumes. I have
read where it is estimated that 1 out of every 3 is either a gross over
statement of fact or just a complete fabrication. My own (original)
resume, written by a professional resume writer many years ago,
absolutely astounded me. I had no idea I was as proficient and skilled
in so many areas. As the writer explained, it is not what you say
but how you say it. Just because I once wrote a two page article that
got published in a cheap magazine does not mean that I am an
accomplished author with numerous credits to my name -- or does it?

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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-27 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:32:24AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 06:43:06PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
  On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:52:56 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated:
  On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:45:53PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
   
   Generic skills aren't recognized because they're hard to judge and
   test for.  People want quantifiable, objective things to weed out
   applicants.  This is also why credit scoring has become so popular --
   sure, someone's credit score may not tell whether they'd be a good
   employee or not, but it's a convenient, objective way to throw out a
   bunch of resumes.
  
  Indeed -- and the employer who bucks this trend does him/her self a
  huge service, because large numbers of very skilled and/or talented
  people are being rejected on entirely arbitrary criteria that have
  little or no correlation to their ability to do the job.  People who
  use such critera are forcing themselves to compete with everyone else
  in the industry using the same criteria, leaving a glut of job
  candidates who would be great at the job waiting for someone else to
  give them a chance.
  
  Wouldn't it be far easier for this glut of job applicants to either
  become proficient in the skills stated in the job description for which
  they are applying or do what everyone else does; i.e. lie on their
  résumé. If the mountain will not come to Mahomet, Mahomet must go to
  the mountain.
 
 1. Pretty much every employer has a slightly different list of keywords.
 I guess you think all these job candidates should learn every skill in
 the world.
 
 2. Lying is bad.  Go fall in a hole, now.

I appear to have forgotten about point 3.

3. This was about employers going to the mountain, by the way, so your
point is null and void in any case.

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Re: Synchronising jails

2012-04-27 Thread Eric Schuele
On 04/27/2012 09:35, Frank Staals wrote:
 
 Hey Everyone,
 
 I'm looking for a way to synchronise two jails. More specifically, I
 would like to keep/maintain an exact copy of a given jail. As an
 example: Suppose I build a jail A on some system (in my particular case
 build with ezjail) , and I copy the jail
 into jail B on some other system (using tar, as is mentioned
 here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=17813). Now stuff
 happens in Jail A, e.g. files change, new stuff is installed etc. I
 would like to propagate these changes to jail B, but since the transfer
 is over WAN I would like not to have to copy the entire jail again, just
 the stuff that has changed since the last backup. It is safe to assume
 nothing in Jail B changes: I basically want to maintain the exact copy
 so if something would happen to the system running Jail A I can
 immediately switch to jail B without much hassle. 
 
 Normally I would say this a perfect use case for rsync. But as the
 aforementioned thread mentions ``scp or similar wont work to copy a
 jail'', and I consider rsync similar to scp,

rsync is dissimilar in that it is capable of preserving links.  It may
likely do the job?

 I am under the impression
 that rsync would not be usable in this situation. Can anyone shed some
 light on this, or suggest an alternative to synchronise the jails?  
 
 
 Regards, 
 




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Re: Python module wnck?

2012-04-27 Thread Walter Hurry
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:07:59 -0400, Rod Person wrote:

 On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 03:54:29 + (UTC)
 Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  How many of the screenlets actually work? When I was working on
  this I found that a number of them where too linux specific to
  work. I have a screenshot of the sticky note and weather working
  but that's about all I can recall working.
 
  I only wanted three: Clock, ClearCalendar and ClearWeather. They
  work perfectly. I haven't tried any of the others.
  
  Consider making a port.  Clearly there is some demand.
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/
 
 For the Python wnck module, or for screenlets? I'm afraid that
 technically I am well short of the ability to do either. I am more than
 willing to help anyone who elects to so, though.

 Incidentally (and this is addressed to Rod mainly), the ClearWeather
 module was broken. I had to hack it a bit to get it to work properly.
 It got confused over proxies, but since I am not unfamiliar with
 Python, that presented no difficulty.
 
 
 Creating a port itself is rather simple...it the porting of the code
 from Linux to FreeBSD that is the hard part. I have one official port
 that I made as a way to brush off my C skills, it works but it was hell
 getting some of the Linux specific translated but thanks to one of the
 committers it got cleaned up...
 
 But anyway, the issues with screenlets is getting any of the screenlets
 that interface with the system to work such as Mount, MyIP, Netmonitor
 or the CPU Meter, when I tried this with FreeBSD 7.2 none of them worked
 because of all the Linux device names.
 
 If you know python this should not be too hard just time consuming. The
 only reason I stopped working on this was I moved from using OpenBox to
 using the i3 window manager.
 
 I can check around and see if I still have any thing I worked on laying
 around but I'm not sure about that...I changed hard disks since then.
 
 I do love python so I would not be adversed to working on some of the
 individual screenlet modules.

Thanks for the encouragement, but my skills really are not up to that.
Cheers, anyway.

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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-27 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 01:57:10PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:32:24 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated:
 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 06:43:06PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
  On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:52:56 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated:
  On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:45:53PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
   
   Generic skills aren't recognized because they're hard to judge and
   test for.  People want quantifiable, objective things to weed out
   applicants.  This is also why credit scoring has become so
   popular -- sure, someone's credit score may not tell whether
   they'd be a good employee or not, but it's a convenient,
   objective way to throw out a bunch of resumes.
  
  Indeed -- and the employer who bucks this trend does him/her self a
  huge service, because large numbers of very skilled and/or talented
  people are being rejected on entirely arbitrary criteria that have
  little or no correlation to their ability to do the job.  People who
  use such critera are forcing themselves to compete with everyone
  else in the industry using the same criteria, leaving a glut of job
  candidates who would be great at the job waiting for someone else to
  give them a chance.
  
  Wouldn't it be far easier for this glut of job applicants to either
  become proficient in the skills stated in the job description for
  which they are applying or do what everyone else does; i.e. lie on
  their résumé. If the mountain will not come to Mahomet, Mahomet must
  go to the mountain.
 
 1. Pretty much every employer has a slightly different list of
 keywords. I guess you think all these job candidates should learn
 every skill in the world.
 
 No, I think they should learn the one(s) most sought after in their
 chosen field. If 90% of the potential openings in a specific field are
 requesting proficiency with MS Word, what do you think any legitimate
 applicants should become proficient in?

Right -- because all the keywords you need will always be Microsoft Word.

Admit it: you're just making up half-baked excuses to disagree now.


 
 2. Lying is bad.  Go fall in a hole, now.
 
 Yes, but it is never-the-less the norm on way too many resumes. I have
 read where it is estimated that 1 out of every 3 is either a gross over
 statement of fact or just a complete fabrication. My own (original)
 resume, written by a professional resume writer many years ago,
 absolutely astounded me. I had no idea I was as proficient and skilled
 in so many areas. As the writer explained, it is not what you say
 but how you say it. Just because I once wrote a two page article that
 got published in a cheap magazine does not mean that I am an
 accomplished author with numerous credits to my name -- or does it?

No, it doesn't.  Maybe an accomplished author with one credit to your
name.  Amusingly, that'll turn out to be a great way for employers to
notice you're exaggerating with that accopmlished author bit, too.
Only by lying (numerous credits) can you allay suspicions for a moment
in those credulous enough to not ask for samples (which absolutely does
not make it okay).

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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-27 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:58:40 -0600
Chad Perrin articulated:

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 01:57:10PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:32:24 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated:
 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 06:43:06PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
  On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:52:56 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated:
  On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:45:53PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
   
   Generic skills aren't recognized because they're hard to judge
   and test for.  People want quantifiable, objective things to
   weed out applicants.  This is also why credit scoring has
   become so popular -- sure, someone's credit score may not tell
   whether they'd be a good employee or not, but it's a
   convenient, objective way to throw out a bunch of resumes.
  
  Indeed -- and the employer who bucks this trend does him/her
  self a huge service, because large numbers of very skilled
  and/or talented people are being rejected on entirely arbitrary
  criteria that have little or no correlation to their ability to
  do the job.  People who use such critera are forcing themselves
  to compete with everyone else in the industry using the same
  criteria, leaving a glut of job candidates who would be great at
  the job waiting for someone else to give them a chance.
  
  Wouldn't it be far easier for this glut of job applicants to
  either become proficient in the skills stated in the job
  description for which they are applying or do what everyone else
  does; i.e. lie on their résumé. If the mountain will not come to
  Mahomet, Mahomet must go to the mountain.
 
 1. Pretty much every employer has a slightly different list of
 keywords. I guess you think all these job candidates should learn
 every skill in the world.
 
 No, I think they should learn the one(s) most sought after in their
 chosen field. If 90% of the potential openings in a specific field
 are requesting proficiency with MS Word, what do you think any
 legitimate applicants should become proficient in?

Right -- because all the keywords you need will always be Microsoft
Word.

Admit it: you're just making up half-baked excuses to disagree now.

If the requirement is for proficiency in MS Word, Excel or whatever and
you lack those skills then you are not qualified for the job. Period.
If those skills are the ones most requested then the applicant should
learn them. It doesn't get any simpler than that. If a job required
proficiency with 3+ years minimum experience in c++ and you only had
knowledge of Pascal, would you still believe you were qualified?

 2. Lying is bad.  Go fall in a hole, now.
 
 Yes, but it is never-the-less the norm on way too many resumes. I
 have read where it is estimated that 1 out of every 3 is either a
 gross over statement of fact or just a complete fabrication. My own
 (original) resume, written by a professional resume writer many
 years ago, absolutely astounded me. I had no idea I was as
 proficient and skilled in so many areas. As the writer explained, it
 is not what you say but how you say it. Just because I once wrote a
 two page article that got published in a cheap magazine does not
 mean that I am an accomplished author with numerous credits to my
 name -- or does it?

No, it doesn't.  Maybe an accomplished author with one credit to your
name.  Amusingly, that'll turn out to be a great way for employers to
notice you're exaggerating with that accopmlished author bit, too.
Only by lying (numerous credits) can you allay suspicions for a
moment in those credulous enough to not ask for samples (which
absolutely does not make it okay).

Now you are being naive. There are numerous examples of people in both
corporate and government jobs that have made out right lies as to
their education, etcetera. Some of those frauds have gone undetected
for years. The majority of resumes for entry level jobs are rarely if
ever given more than a perfunctory look.

The bottom line is if you want a job, you either learn or acquire the
criteria required for the job, or find a way to BS your way into it
and hope you can pull it off. No legitimate employer is going to change
his criteria to accommodate your skills.

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Re: Synchronising jails

2012-04-27 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Frank Staals fr...@fstaals.net writes:

 Hey Everyone,

 I'm looking for a way to synchronise two jails. More specifically, I
 would like to keep/maintain an exact copy of a given jail. As an
 example: Suppose I build a jail A on some system (in my particular case
 build with ezjail) , and I copy the jail
 into jail B on some other system (using tar, as is mentioned
 here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=17813). Now stuff
 happens in Jail A, e.g. files change, new stuff is installed etc. I
 would like to propagate these changes to jail B, but since the transfer
 is over WAN I would like not to have to copy the entire jail again, just
 the stuff that has changed since the last backup. It is safe to assume
 nothing in Jail B changes: I basically want to maintain the exact copy
 so if something would happen to the system running Jail A I can
 immediately switch to jail B without much hassle. 

 Normally I would say this a perfect use case for rsync. But as the
 aforementioned thread mentions ``scp or similar wont work to copy a
 jail'', and I consider rsync similar to scp, I am under the impression
 that rsync would not be usable in this situation. Can anyone shed some
 light on this, or suggest an alternative to synchronise the jails?  

I didn't don't know of any problem with using rsync (over ssh) for this,
and after reading the thread to which you refer, I still don't.

Set up a testbed using rsync and see if it works for you. If it doesn't,
*then* you'll have something we can try to solve.
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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-27 Thread David Brodbeck
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 Indeed -- and the employer who bucks this trend does him/her self a huge
 service, because large numbers of very skilled and/or talented people are
 being rejected on entirely arbitrary criteria that have little or no
 correlation to their ability to do the job.

Keep in mind in today's job market, and given Internet methods of
advertising positions, the problem isn't in finding qualified people
-- the problem is in whittling down the couple thousand or so resumes
you get to a manageable pile.  You can afford to reject some qualified
applicants in that process because there are always more looking.

Again, this is one of the reasons credit scoring is becoming so
popular -- it's an almost automatic way to narrow down the pile.
Another method in common use right now is to throw out applications
from anyone who's currently unemployed, and only look at ones who
already have a position and are looking to change jobs.
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Re: Synchronising jails

2012-04-27 Thread Johan Hendriks


 
 Hey Everyone,
 
 I'm looking for a way to synchronise two jails. More specifically, I
 would like to keep/maintain an exact copy of a given jail. As an
 example: Suppose I build a jail A on some system (in my particular case
 build with ezjail) , and I copy the jail
 into jail B on some other system (using tar, as is mentioned
 here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=17813). Now stuff
 happens in Jail A, e.g. files change, new stuff is installed etc. I
 would like to propagate these changes to jail B, but since the transfer
 is over WAN I would like not to have to copy the entire jail again, just
 the stuff that has changed since the last backup. It is safe to assume
 nothing in Jail B changes: I basically want to maintain the exact copy
 so if something would happen to the system running Jail A I can
 immediately switch to jail B without much hassle. 
 
 Normally I would say this a perfect use case for rsync. But as the
 aforementioned thread mentions ``scp or similar wont work to copy a
 jail'', and I consider rsync similar to scp, I am under the impression
 that rsync would not be usable in this situation. Can anyone shed some
 light on this, or suggest an alternative to synchronise the jails?  
 
 
 Regards, 
 
 -- 
 
 - Frank
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Maybe you can store your jails on a per jail zfs filesystem.
Then use zfs send/receive to send the incremental changes to the remote machine.

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Unresolvable links

2012-04-27 Thread Walter Hurry
Arising from a very useful link posted by Warren Block in another thread:

http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=163415postcount=17 ,

I have been running libchk. It now gives the following (relevant) output:

Unresolvable link(s) found in: /usr/local/lib/libreoffice/program/
configmgr.uno.so

libxmlreader.so

Unresolvable link(s) found in: /usr/local/lib/firefox/sdk/lib/libxul.so

libmozsqlite3.so

Unresolvable link(s) found in: /usr/local/lib/firefox/components/
libmozgnome.so

libmozalloc.so

libxpcom.so

Unresolvable link(s) found in: /usr/local/lib/firefox/components/
libdbusservice.so

libmozalloc.so

libxpcom.so

Unresolvable link(s) found in: /usr/local/lib/firefox/components/
libbrowsercomps.so

libmozalloc.so

libxul.so

libxpcom.so

All these shared object files are present in one lib or another, so my 
suspicion is that somehow the 'parent' shared objects are looking for 
them in the wrong place.

Any ideas on fixing this please?

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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-27 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:33:29 -0700
David Brodbeck articulated:

Again, this is one of the reasons credit scoring is becoming so
popular -- it's an almost automatic way to narrow down the pile.
Another method in common use right now is to throw out applications
from anyone who's currently unemployed, and only look at ones who
already have a position and are looking to change jobs.

I have been told by several people in HR that the trend to give
preference to those all ready working as opposed to the unemployed is
based on the philosophy that if no one else will hire them, then why
should we. While we could argue whether that logic is flawed, it is
never-the-less presently in use. However, it doesn't really pertain to
entry level openings. With the glut of individuals entering the job
market, for an applicant to not be proficient in the skills being
advertised for by the prospective employer is just a waste of time. If
the employer is looking for skill A and B, crying to him/her that
you have skill C is just a waste of both your times.

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need help on installing bsd in virtual box

2012-04-27 Thread dhillon sandeep
Hi,
   I am struggling in installing the bsd in virtualbox
i am totally new to unix, but have previously installed
Ubuntu linux in my virtual box, i have dounloaded both the images bootonly and 
release iso, after creating the new virtual machine and starting it for first 
time and by selecting the iso image nothing is happening or getting installed 
in the virtual machine. I downloaded the iso images from your BSD website. 
Please let me know what i am doing wrong or what do i need to do to install bsd.
 
 
Thanks
Sandeep.
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UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-27 Thread Alejandro Imass
Hi folks,

We had a server crash and required a hard reboot. The system is on one
disk and another disc mounts /usr/jails and everything runs in jails,
pristine base system, and the base system is working perfectly.

The second volume, the one with the jails mounted but every jail
directory disappeared except one. df still shows the data being used
so I'm guessing it's a logical error in the directory structure or
something. I unmounted the drive and ran fsck and reported no
problems. df shows the data being use so where is the data??

This is FreeBSD 8.2 updated, patched etc. The volume was UFS + Journal

Any help is GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks!

-- 
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Re: need help on installing bsd in virtual box

2012-04-27 Thread Derek Ragona

At 05:01 PM 4/27/2012, dhillon sandeep wrote:

Hi,
   I am struggling in installing the bsd in virtualbox
i am totally new to unix, but have previously installed
Ubuntu linux in my virtual box, i have dounloaded both the images bootonly 
and release iso, after creating the new virtual machine and starting it 
for first time and by selecting the iso image nothing is happening or 
getting installed in the virtual machine. I downloaded the iso images from 
your BSD website. Please let me know what i am doing wrong or what do i 
need to do to install bsd.



Thanks
Sandeep.



You need to be specific on which version of virtualbox you are using and 
which version of FreeBSD.  I have had no problem install FreeBSD in 
virtualbox, and in other virtual environments.  I use the disk1 iso and 
boot that which brings up the FreeBSD installer.


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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-27 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 04:46:52PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
 
 Now you are being naive. There are numerous examples of people in both
 corporate and government jobs that have made out right lies as to
 their education, etcetera. Some of those frauds have gone undetected
 for years. The majority of resumes for entry level jobs are rarely if
 ever given more than a perfunctory look.

You say that as though I somehow argued that people don't lie, or that
all people who lie get caught.  I made no such statements.  If you're
going to argue against things I didn't say, you should just send the
emails to yourself and leave both me and the rest of the mailing list out
of the discussion.


 
 The bottom line is if you want a job, you either learn or acquire the
 criteria required for the job, or find a way to BS your way into it
 and hope you can pull it off. No legitimate employer is going to change
 his criteria to accommodate your skills.

Good job completely bypassing my actual statements to make a point about
something else entirely.  Congratulations on your irrelevance.

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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-27 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 06:00:51PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:33:29 -0700 David Brodbeck articulated:
 
 Again, this is one of the reasons credit scoring is becoming so
 popular -- it's an almost automatic way to narrow down the pile.
 Another method in common use right now is to throw out applications
 from anyone who's currently unemployed, and only look at ones who
 already have a position and are looking to change jobs.
 
 I have been told by several people in HR that the trend to give
 preference to those all ready working as opposed to the unemployed is
 based on the philosophy that if no one else will hire them, then why
 should we. While we could argue whether that logic is flawed, it is
 never-the-less presently in use. However, it doesn't really pertain to
 entry level openings. With the glut of individuals entering the job
 market, for an applicant to not be proficient in the skills being
 advertised for by the prospective employer is just a waste of time. If
 the employer is looking for skill A and B, crying to him/her that
 you have skill C is just a waste of both your times.

It *does* pertain to entry level positions, because (from what I have
seen) most entry level positions come with an experience requirement of
at least two years.

You speak as though you think they're correctly identifying the skills
they actually need from their employees.  A big part of this entire
discussion has been about the fact that many responsible parties in the
hiring process are utterly without capacity for correctly identifying the
skills they actually need to optimally fill the open positions.

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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-27 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 02:33:29PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
  Indeed -- and the employer who bucks this trend does him/her self a huge
  service, because large numbers of very skilled and/or talented people are
  being rejected on entirely arbitrary criteria that have little or no
  correlation to their ability to do the job.
 
 Keep in mind in today's job market, and given Internet methods of
 advertising positions, the problem isn't in finding qualified people
 -- the problem is in whittling down the couple thousand or so resumes
 you get to a manageable pile.  You can afford to reject some qualified
 applicants in that process because there are always more looking.

That's not exactly true.  The problem is cutting out the people who only
*claim* to be qualified, and end up with the best candidate for the job
(or to get as close to that as possible).  The fact that most
organizations' responsible parties in the hiring process just punt on
that and go straight toward I don't care if he's good at the job -- I
only care that I do things in a way that ensures I don't get blamed for
any failures does not change that fact.

That also completely ignores the fact that many employers complain that
they can't find qualified candidates, ever, for skilled technical
positions.


 
 Again, this is one of the reasons credit scoring is becoming so
 popular -- it's an almost automatic way to narrow down the pile.
 Another method in common use right now is to throw out applications
 from anyone who's currently unemployed, and only look at ones who
 already have a position and are looking to change jobs.

. . . which just reinforces the point that most organizations are
optimizing for finding people who land around the fiftieth percentile in
terms of a good fit for the job, when they could benefit much more from
getting somewhere up around the range of the ninety-eighth percentile.
Luckily for those who buck the trends, it's a lot easier to get someone
in that range than it should be, because many employers are cutting a lot
of those candidates out of their job searches based on essentially
arbitrary criteria.

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Re: Synchronising jails

2012-04-27 Thread Fbsd8

Frank Staals wrote:

Hey Everyone,

I'm looking for a way to synchronise two jails. More specifically, I
would like to keep/maintain an exact copy of a given jail. As an
example: Suppose I build a jail A on some system (in my particular case
build with ezjail) , and I copy the jail
into jail B on some other system (using tar, as is mentioned
here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=17813). Now stuff
happens in Jail A, e.g. files change, new stuff is installed etc. I
would like to propagate these changes to jail B, but since the transfer
is over WAN I would like not to have to copy the entire jail again, just
the stuff that has changed since the last backup. It is safe to assume
nothing in Jail B changes: I basically want to maintain the exact copy
so if something would happen to the system running Jail A I can
immediately switch to jail B without much hassle. 


Normally I would say this a perfect use case for rsync. But as the
aforementioned thread mentions ``scp or similar wont work to copy a
jail'', and I consider rsync similar to scp, I am under the impression
that rsync would not be usable in this situation. Can anyone shed some
light on this, or suggest an alternative to synchronise the jails?  



Regards, 


I have 3 different ideas that would work.

Method 1. move changes to basejail. Use qjail to create your hosta-jaila 
and hostb-jaila. Qjail has a bkup function that you can backup the 
hosta-jaila basejail in compressed dump format and move that file to 
hostb any way you want and then use qjail restore function to restore 
that dump file to hostb-jaila basejail. bkuping up basejail takes less 
than one minute.


method 2. move user data changes to jaila. create hosta-jaila and 
hosta-jailb both being the same. After changes to hosta-jaila run diff 
on hosta-jaila, hosta-jailb and them move the diff file to hostb and 
apply the diff to hostb-jaila.


method 3. move user data changes to jaila. Use qjail to backup 
hosta-jaila and restore it to hostb-jaila. Backing up a jail takes less 
than 15 seconds.


Note, Both hosta and hostb must be at same operating system version 
level. Ezjail also has function to bkup a jail but no way to bkup 
basejail. You can issue a dump command on the command line to create 
one after all jails are stopped.


In my book rsync is the automated way to keep two live system in sync 
real time. Maybe overkill in something that is pretty much stable. If 
say hosta/jaila is running a mail server or a website that remote users 
enter info into, then rsync is the only solution.



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Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-27 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 We had a server crash and required a hard reboot. The system is on one
 disk and another disc mounts /usr/jails and everything runs in jails,
 pristine base system, and the base system is working perfectly.

 The second volume, the one with the jails mounted but every jail
 directory disappeared except one. df still shows the data being used
 so I'm guessing it's a logical error in the directory structure or
 something. I unmounted the drive and ran fsck and reported no
 problems. df shows the data being use so where is the data??


OK, so here is an update, maybe someone has some clue here

All the jails wound up in the /usr/local/etc/apache22 of the only
surviving jail which is the http proxy to all the other jails.

Right before the server crashed I noticed MySQL at 100% o several CPUs
and the server was on it's knees, so I'm wondering was this an
attack? is it possible that Apache or MySQL moved the files??

I mean the jails are there, I'm even backing them up right now but
how did these directories move here?

Anybody has ANY logical explanation???

Thanks,

-- 
Alejandro Imass

 This is FreeBSD 8.2 updated, patched etc. The volume was UFS + Journal

 Any help is GREATLY appreciated!

 Thanks!

 --
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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-27 Thread Frank Shute
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 02:33:29PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
  Indeed -- and the employer who bucks this trend does him/her self a huge
  service, because large numbers of very skilled and/or talented people are
  being rejected on entirely arbitrary criteria that have little or no
  correlation to their ability to do the job.
 
 Keep in mind in today's job market, and given Internet methods of
 advertising positions, the problem isn't in finding qualified people
 -- the problem is in whittling down the couple thousand or so resumes
 you get to a manageable pile.  You can afford to reject some qualified
 applicants in that process because there are always more looking.
 
 Again, this is one of the reasons credit scoring is becoming so
 popular -- it's an almost automatic way to narrow down the pile.
 Another method in common use right now is to throw out applications
 from anyone who's currently unemployed, and only look at ones who
 already have a position and are looking to change jobs.

Reminds me of an episode of The Office.

The manager gets a pile of resumes/CVs and immediately bungs half of
them in the trash.

His reasoning: he doesn't like employing unlucky people :)


Regards,

-- 

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Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-27 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Saturday 28 April 2012 09:33:47 Alejandro Imass wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
 
  We had a server crash and required a hard reboot. The system is on one
  disk and another disc mounts /usr/jails and everything runs in jails,
  pristine base system, and the base system is working perfectly.
 
  The second volume, the one with the jails mounted but every jail
  directory disappeared except one. df still shows the data being used
  so I'm guessing it's a logical error in the directory structure or
  something. I unmounted the drive and ran fsck and reported no
  problems. df shows the data being use so where is the data??
 

what is du saying?
 
 OK, so here is an update, maybe someone has some clue here
 
 All the jails wound up in the /usr/local/etc/apache22 of the only
 surviving jail which is the http proxy to all the other jails.

You want to say that all the data you were looking for have been moved to this 
directory?
 
 Right before the server crashed I noticed MySQL at 100% o several CPUs
 and the server was on it's knees, so I'm wondering was this an
 attack? is it possible that Apache or MySQL moved the files??
 
 I mean the jails are there, I'm even backing them up right now but
 how did these directories move here?
 
 Anybody has ANY logical explanation???

Journaling is new to me. Could this be the cause?

Erich
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Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-27 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Erich Dollansky
er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Saturday 28 April 2012 09:33:47 Alejandro Imass wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
 
  We had a server crash and required a hard reboot. The system is on one
  disk and another disc mounts /usr/jails and everything runs in jails,
  pristine base system, and the base system is working perfectly.
 
  The second volume, the one with the jails mounted but every jail
  directory disappeared except one. df still shows the data being used
  so I'm guessing it's a logical error in the directory structure or
  something. I unmounted the drive and ran fsck and reported no
  problems. df shows the data being use so where is the data??
 

 what is du saying?

 OK, so here is an update, maybe someone has some clue here

 All the jails wound up in the /usr/local/etc/apache22 of the only
 surviving jail which is the http proxy to all the other jails.

 You want to say that all the data you were looking for have been moved to 
 this directory?


EXACTLY THAT. In fact the data is intact and I have already backed-up
everything to another disk.

 Right before the server crashed I noticed MySQL at 100% o several CPUs
 and the server was on it's knees, so I'm wondering was this an
 attack? is it possible that Apache or MySQL moved the files??

 I mean the jails are there, I'm even backing them up right now but
 how did these directories move here?

 Anybody has ANY logical explanation???

 Journaling is new to me. Could this be the cause?


Maybe so, I have no idea.

Maybe it's because EzJail mount volumes with each jail or some other
wild explanation. I honestly have never seen this before. I am just
glad that UFS was nice enough to keep my data somewhere at least, and
after my bad experiences with ZFS I can now say with a lot more
certainty that UFS rocks. I mean something got screwed up but the data
was not lost.

Hope someone can shed some light here..

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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-27 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Saturday 28 April 2012 09:23:26 Frank Shute wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 02:33:29PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
 
 
 Reminds me of an episode of The Office.

sounds more like real life to me.
 
 The manager gets a pile of resumes/CVs and immediately bungs half of
 them in the trash.
 
 His reasoning: he doesn't like employing unlucky people :)
 
we have been called once to assist a MNC you all know with a simple software 
problem problem. A guy from India was working on the problem since weeks, 
months or years without result.

When I asked him for the sources, he showed me the executable.

You think now that this was a misunderstanding. No, he thought that the 
executable is what is needed to debug the program. He could not show me the 
source code of the executable.

I could not stop laughing what did not make the people very happy there.

Erich
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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-27 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:46:52 -0400, Jerry wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:58:40 -0600
 Chad Perrin articulated:
 
 On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 01:57:10PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
  On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:32:24 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated:
  On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 06:43:06PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
   On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:52:56 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated:
   On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:45:53PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:

Generic skills aren't recognized because they're hard to judge
and test for.  People want quantifiable, objective things to
weed out applicants.  This is also why credit scoring has
become so popular -- sure, someone's credit score may not tell
whether they'd be a good employee or not, but it's a
convenient, objective way to throw out a bunch of resumes.
   
   Indeed -- and the employer who bucks this trend does him/her
   self a huge service, because large numbers of very skilled
   and/or talented people are being rejected on entirely arbitrary
   criteria that have little or no correlation to their ability to
   do the job.  People who use such critera are forcing themselves
   to compete with everyone else in the industry using the same
   criteria, leaving a glut of job candidates who would be great at
   the job waiting for someone else to give them a chance.
   
   Wouldn't it be far easier for this glut of job applicants to
   either become proficient in the skills stated in the job
   description for which they are applying or do what everyone else
   does; i.e. lie on their résumé. If the mountain will not come to
   Mahomet, Mahomet must go to the mountain.
  
  1. Pretty much every employer has a slightly different list of
  keywords. I guess you think all these job candidates should learn
  every skill in the world.
  
  No, I think they should learn the one(s) most sought after in their
  chosen field. If 90% of the potential openings in a specific field
  are requesting proficiency with MS Word, what do you think any
  legitimate applicants should become proficient in?
 
 Right -- because all the keywords you need will always be Microsoft
 Word.
 
 Admit it: you're just making up half-baked excuses to disagree now.
 
 If the requirement is for proficiency in MS Word, Excel or whatever and
 you lack those skills then you are not qualified for the job. Period.

There are two problems hidden:

1. You typically cannot learn proprietary products for free.
Of course there are books and online material to help you, but
you cannot try the software. You have to buy it, and you have
to buy the OS that supports it. There is no (legal) way for
autodidacts to make theirselves familiar by learning and doing.

2. There are many different versions, so when you encounter
Microsoft Word as a required skill, you cannot be sure that
the skill _you_ have will be the right one. You know that
products like Word differ from version to version. And of
course they highly differ from established and standardized
ways of doing things, so your generic knowledge (e. g. acquired
by learning and doing OpenOffice or StarOffice or Abiword)
isn't fully portable simply because of the arbitraryness of how
Word does things.

But let's rest the Word case. There is other software much more
expensive and far less present on home systems to do and learn.
Oracle databases, Enterprise Java Frameworks or SAP are just a few
examples. There are _courses_ that you can attend in order to learn
more. For example, such courses cost 2000-10,000 Euro here. This
is nothing that poor people can afford, even though they are
highly skilled IT nerds.



 If those skills are the ones most requested then the applicant should
 learn them. It doesn't get any simpler than that.

I fully agree with you here. If the employer is _precise_ on what
he expects, you can trim your resume or your skill profile to
make a good match. You can even acquire requested skills (if
possible). However, at least on the german job market you won't
find such situations. As I wrote in a previous message, externalized
HR services do most of the pre-employment work, and they are not
very specific in their application requirements they publish.
Programmer and Office can mean anything.



 If a job required
 proficiency with 3+ years minimum experience in c++ and you only had
 knowledge of Pascal, would you still believe you were qualified?

Depends. If your intelligency is high enough, your ability to
learn and to conclude is good, then maybe you have the chance
to learn the required C++ skills that are _equivalent_ to 3+
years of experience. But that's only an assumption, and you will
face the problem that you cannot prove it (by shiny paper
with signature and rubber stamp).



  2. Lying is bad.  Go fall in a hole, now.
  
  Yes, but it is never-the-less the norm on way too many resumes. I
  have read where it is estimated that 1 out of every 3 is either a
  gross over statement of fact or just a complete fabrication. My own
  

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar

something. I unmounted the drive and ran fsck and reported no
problems. df shows the data being use so where is the data??


your data is here as df shown usage and fsck see no errors. most probably 
root directory of that volume got corrupted and subdirs were found and put 
in lost+found

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Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar


All the jails wound up in the /usr/local/etc/apache22 of the only
surviving jail which is the http proxy to all the other jails.

Right before the server crashed I noticed MySQL at 100% o several CPUs
and the server was on it's knees, so I'm wondering was this an
attack? is it possible that Apache or MySQL moved the files??

I mean the jails are there, I'm even backing them up right now but
how did these directories move here?

Anybody has ANY logical explanation???


99% - someone did moved them.
1% - hardware problem possibly memory. without this there is no way for 
directory to be accidentally moved

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Re: need help on installing bsd in virtual box

2012-04-27 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:01:28 +0100 (BST), dhillon sandeep wrote:
 Hi,
    I am struggling in installing the bsd in virtualbox
 i am totally new to unix, but have previously installed
 Ubuntu linux in my virtual box, i have dounloaded both the
 images bootonly and release iso, after creating the new
 virtual machine and starting it for first time and by
 selecting the iso image nothing is happening or getting
 installed in the virtual machine. I downloaded the iso
 images from your BSD website. Please let me know what i
 am doing wrong or what do i need to do to install bsd.

As you have experiences with Ubuntu, maybe you're interested
in giving VirtualBSD a try? It's a preinstalled and preconfigured
image containing a FreeBSD installation. You can play it
with Virtualbox.

http://www.virtualbsd.info/

You can find instructions and screenshots on that web page.

Regarding the installation of a normal FreeBSD OS, refer
to the handbook with explains the basic steps of installation
and configuration.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html

You need to properly configure your virtual environment and
pay attention to 32/64 bit when doing so. The bootonly image
is typically used to install the system via network, there are
no installation datasets on that media. The CD1 and DVD1 media
images will be the ones used in typical installations.



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Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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