Re: library search path

2012-05-29 Thread Martin Laabs
Hello,

 On 29 May 2012 00:57, Martin Laabs i...@martinlaabs.de wrote:

[...]

 tmux didn't work with libevent 2.* but did with libevent 1.4.*

When typing make config in the tmux port it presents a checkbutton wether
I wanna use libenvet 1.4 or 2. So it seems to work with both versions.

Btw. - where do you see advantages of tmux in comparison to screen?

Best regards,
 Martin

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How Do I Remove Clang

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas D. Dean

 uname -a
FreeBSD P9X79.tddhome 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #2: Fri May 11
20:41:54 PDT 2012 tomdean@P9X79.tddhome:/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

I want to remove clang from my system and stick with gcc.

I do not want any code I produce to have a non-GPL license.

Do I need to regress to 8.3?  Or, will that be back-fit with clang also?

Tom Dean
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Re: How Do I Remove Clang

2012-05-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 29/05/2012 08:27, Thomas D. Dean wrote:
 uname -a
 FreeBSD P9X79.tddhome 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #2: Fri May 11
 20:41:54 PDT 2012 tomdean@P9X79.tddhome:/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

Hmmm... normally this sort of question is asked in exactly the opposite
sense.  I shall trust that it is not asked ironically and answer at face
value.

 I want to remove clang from my system and stick with gcc.

Set WITHOUT_CLANG=yes in /etc/src.conf and do a normal buildworld cycle
plus 'make delete-old'

See src.conf(5) for more details.

Or just do nothing: gcc is still the default compiler on 9.0, and you
need positive action to tweak /etc/make.conf to enable clang.

 I do not want any code I produce to have a non-GPL license.

That's not actually affected by using clang as your compiler.  It's BSD
licensed, and doesn't have any viral clauses, so your code can be
licensed as you see fit.  Similarly the runtime bits of the system are
BSD licensed and even though they are linked into any executables you
produce, you can release the result under whatever terms you see fit
other than not claiming authorship / copyright on material you didn't
yourself produce.

 Do I need to regress to 8.3?  Or, will that be back-fit with clang also?

No.  I think you can update to 9.1 without such concerns as well, but
10.x could well be a different matter.

Cheers,

Matthew

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tcgetattr() hangs

2012-05-29 Thread Kustaa Nyholm
Hi,

this maybe wrong list but I gotta start somewhere.

I'm the developer of PureJavaComm (PJC) , a pure Java serial port access
library that runs on Mac OS X, Linux, Windows and soon I hope on
FreeBSD. I'm co-operating with someone to port the library to
FreeBSD but we have run into mysterious problem that has defeated
all our debugging efforts.

PJC can be found at:

https://github.com/nyholku/purejavacomm

Some background. PJC uses JNA which is a library to access C-code
APIs from Java by writing Java classes that JNA automatically
turns in to standard C calls.

The C functions we are using are very simple and few, here is the complete
list to put you into the picture (btw, this is Java):

 int errno();
 int fcntl(int fd, int cmd, int arg); int cfgetispeed(Termios termios);
 int cfgetospeed(Termios termios);
 int setspeed(int fd, int speed);
 int cfsetispeed(Termios termios, int speed);
 int cfsetospeed(Termios termios, int speed)
 int tcflush(int fd, int b);
 int tcdrain(int fd);
 void cfmakeraw(Termios termios);
 int tcgetattr(int fd, Termios termios);
 int tcsetattr(int fd, int cmd, Termios termios); int tcsendbreak(int fd,
int duration);
 int open(String s, int t); int close(int fd);
 int write(int fd, byte[] buffer, int len);
 int read(int fd, byte[] buffer, int len);
 int ioctl(int fd, int cmd, int[] data);
 int select(int n, FDSet read, FDSet write, FDSet error, TimeVal timeout);



So far we have been able to run PJC testsuite in FreeBSD 32 bit Intel with
no problems. 

Now however, on FreeBSD 64 bit AMD our test set hangs in a call to
tcgetattr()
in the third test case in our test suite.

The first test opens a port and wiggles some control lines, then closes
the port.
The second test sends and receives a some hundreds of messages using a
background
thread and select(). This is the test that is causing problem further down
the line.
After this test the next test (regardless what it is) hangs in a call to
tcgetattr()
after successfully opening the port.

So how can tcgetattr() hang???

I found one reference to a similar problem but no solution:

http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Re-cups-bugs-tcgetattr-causes-lockup-i
n-USB-backend-on-FreeBSD6-STABLE-td3950285.html

Here is a piece of our debug log that shows the calls from Java to the
native
API showing the end of the successful Test2 and the hang at the beginning
of Test3:

log:  select(9,[8],[],[],jtermios.TimeVal@6f507fb2)
.. OK average speed log: 
select(9,[],[],[],jtermios.TimeVal@6f507fb2) = 0
log:  select(9,[8],[],[],jtermios.TimeVal@6f507fb2)
18241 b/sec at baud rate 19200
log:  fcntl(8, 3, 0)
log:  fcntl(8, 3, 0) = 2
log:  fcntl(8, 4, 6)
log:  fcntl(8, 4, 6) = 0
log:  close(8)
log:  close(8) = 0
Test3 - transmit all characters log: 
select(9,[8],[],[],jtermios.TimeVal@6f507fb2) = -1
log:  open('cuau0',8006)
log:  open('cuau0',8006) = 8
log:  close(8)
log:  close(8) = 0
log:  open('cuau0',8006)
log:  open('cuau0',8006) = 8
log:  fcntl(8, 3, 0)
log:  fcntl(8, 3, 0) = 6
log:  fcntl(8, 4, 2)
log:  fcntl(8, 4, 2) = 0
log:  tcgetattr(8,jtermios.Termios@5a77a7f9)


All comments welcome.

be Kusti






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Re: tcgetattr() hangs

2012-05-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 29/05/2012 08:42, Kustaa Nyholm wrote:
 this maybe wrong list but I gotta start somewhere.
 
 I'm the developer of PureJavaComm (PJC) , a pure Java serial port access
 library that runs on Mac OS X, Linux, Windows and soon I hope on
 FreeBSD. I'm co-operating with someone to port the library to
 FreeBSD but we have run into mysterious problem that has defeated
 all our debugging efforts.

I think the freebsd-java@... list is probably your best choice.

-questions tends not to get into the deeply technical nitty-gritty, but
it's a good place to ask the meta-question about where to ask the question.

 http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Re-cups-bugs-tcgetattr-causes-lockup-i
 n-USB-backend-on-FreeBSD6-STABLE-td3950285.html

Given that was in FreeBSD-6 and there's been quite a lot of work on the
various subsystems involved since, probably not relevant anymore.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-29 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
 Hello

 I'm searching for a cloud software :-)

 More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors
 a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
 from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ...
 ( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones   and tablets ... etc )

 Anyone could help ?
 Thank you


Although it's not cloud-labeled, and:
* if you're interested only in data (as in files) management;
* and you want to host it your self;
, you could take a look over OpenAFS. It's quite nice, works over
WAN, supported on most modern OS's, and has strong authentication and
authorization. (I don't know about Smartphones, tablets, etc.)

Ciprian.
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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-29 Thread Frank Staals
Ciprian Dorin Craciun ciprian.crac...@gmail.com writes:

 On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
 Hello

 I'm searching for a cloud software :-)

 More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors
 a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
 from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ...
 ( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones   and tablets ... etc )

 Anyone could help ?
 Thank you


 Although it's not cloud-labeled, and:
 * if you're interested only in data (as in files) management;
 * and you want to host it your self;
 , you could take a look over OpenAFS. It's quite nice, works over
 WAN, supported on most modern OS's, and has strong authentication and
 authorization. (I don't know about Smartphones, tablets, etc.)

 Ciprian.

Hmm that sounds interesting. Do you know how persistent the local cache
is? If I do something like: open some (large) remote file (hence the
large file is transferred to the client), reboot the client, and reopen
the large file again. Is the large file then transferred again?
(assuming no other clients changed the file in the mean time). The
website is not particularly specific about the caching policy. If the
file is only transferred once it could be useful to sorta kinda fake
something like dropbox. 

Regards, 

-- 

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How to indicate source directory in other than /usr/src?

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas Mueller
How does one indicate a system source directory location when in other than 
/usr/src?

That could be necessary when in another directory, for instance running ndiscvt.

Or one could be building FreeBSD for a USB stick and want to do the heavy work 
on a hard drive; I could also want to build and install ports on the USB stick 
but do the heavy work on the hard drive.

I couldn't find a variable named SRCDIR anywhere in the documentation, in 
contrast to PORTSDIR, which I did find.

I may also want to build 10-CURRENT from 9-STABLE system without giving up the 
9-STABLE source tree; I would need both source trees, but then after the first 
successful build of 10-CURRENT, I could use that to build updated versions.


Tom
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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-29 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Frank Staals fr...@fstaals.net wrote:
 Ciprian Dorin Craciun ciprian.crac...@gmail.com writes:

 On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
 Hello

 I'm searching for a cloud software :-)

 More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors
 a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
 from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ...
 ( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones   and tablets ... etc )

 Anyone could help ?
 Thank you


     Although it's not cloud-labeled, and:
     * if you're interested only in data (as in files) management;
     * and you want to host it your self;
     , you could take a look over OpenAFS. It's quite nice, works over
 WAN, supported on most modern OS's, and has strong authentication and
 authorization. (I don't know about Smartphones, tablets, etc.)

     Ciprian.

 Hmm that sounds interesting. Do you know how persistent the local cache
 is? If I do something like: open some (large) remote file (hence the
 large file is transferred to the client), reboot the client, and reopen
 the large file again. Is the large file then transferred again?
 (assuming no other clients changed the file in the mean time). The
 website is not particularly specific about the caching policy. If the
 file is only transferred once it could be useful to sorta kinda fake
 something like dropbox.

 Regards,


I'm not very OpenAFS knowing, I only use it for myself and my
family, but I would guess that a persistent cache would survive a
reboot. I've also seen something on their mailing list regarding an
offline mode (maybe it was called detached mode)?

I strongly advise you to take it into consideration as it was made
for such purposes and has great support for things like quota,
multiple file servers, replication, etc. (It is also used by some
large financial companies, maybe JP Morgan?, see their use cases
page, but certainly universities are enlisted there, so is CERN.)

Ciprian.
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Re: How to indicate source directory in other than /usr/src?

2012-05-29 Thread uki
Don't know if that will help in Your case, but I just softlink my
/usr/local/src-stable to /usr/src - never had any issues.

Cheers,
Łukasz Gruner


2012/5/29 Thomas Mueller muelle...@insightbb.com:
 How does one indicate a system source directory location when in other than 
 /usr/src?

 That could be necessary when in another directory, for instance running 
 ndiscvt.

 Or one could be building FreeBSD for a USB stick and want to do the heavy 
 work on a hard drive; I could also want to build and install ports on the USB 
 stick but do the heavy work on the hard drive.

 I couldn't find a variable named SRCDIR anywhere in the documentation, in 
 contrast to PORTSDIR, which I did find.

 I may also want to build 10-CURRENT from 9-STABLE system without giving up 
 the 9-STABLE source tree; I would need both source trees, but then after the 
 first successful build of 10-CURRENT, I could use that to build updated 
 versions.


 Tom
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Re: How to indicate source directory in other than /usr/src?

2012-05-29 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Thomas Mueller muelle...@insightbb.com writes:

 How does one indicate a system source directory location when in other than 
 /usr/src?

I'm not sure I understand quite what you're asking, but I'll have a try
anyway. 

 That could be necessary when in another directory, for instance running 
 ndiscvt.

For ports, I would would normally say that you want SRC_BASE. However,
that's for building ports, not running them, so I may be missing the
point. 

 Or one could be building FreeBSD for a USB stick and want to do the heavy 
 work on a hard drive; I could also want to build and install ports on the USB 
 stick but do the heavy work on the hard drive.

This is the normal case; you don't want to do anything special about the
location of the build, only for the install. For the base system, you
just want MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX (normally /usr/obj) to be on the hard
drive. For ports, you want MAKEWRKDIRPREFIX to be on the hard drive if
set, and the ports tree to be on the hard drive if not.

 I couldn't find a variable named SRCDIR anywhere in the documentation, in 
 contrast to PORTSDIR, which I did find.

I don't remember there being one, but I also don't see a comparable use
for one.

 I may also want to build 10-CURRENT from 9-STABLE system without giving up 
 the 9-STABLE source tree; I would need both source trees, but then after the 
 first successful build of 10-CURRENT, I could use that to build updated 
 versions.

MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX can do this, but in my case I would move the original
/usr/obj tree out of the way to avoid damaging it by mistake.

Good luck.
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Re: How to indicate source directory in other than /usr/src?

2012-05-29 Thread Michael Ross

Am 29.05.2012, 12:10 Uhr, schrieb Thomas Mueller muelle...@insightbb.com:

How does one indicate a system source directory location when in other  
than /usr/src?


That could be necessary when in another directory, for instance running  
ndiscvt.


Or one could be building FreeBSD for a USB stick and want to do the  
heavy work on a hard drive; I could also want to build and install ports  
on the USB stick but do the heavy work on the hard drive.


I couldn't find a variable named SRCDIR anywhere in the documentation,  
in contrast to PORTSDIR, which I did find.


I may also want to build 10-CURRENT from 9-STABLE system without giving  
up the 9-STABLE source tree; I would need both source trees, but then  
after the first successful build of 10-CURRENT, I could use that to  
build updated versions.





I often use nullfs for this kind of thing:

mount -t nullfs /where/your/sources/are /usr/src
mount -t nullfs /some/dir/for/objects /usr/obj


Michael
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Re: Updating /src from command line

2012-05-29 Thread Jos Chrispijn
I think I solved it with cvsup, but still no clue why it doesn't work 
via sysinstall J-(


br,
Jos Chrispijn

Jos Chrispijn:
I want to compile my kernel and I read that for this I need to have 
the complete /SRC tree installed.
If I do this via sysinstall, I get either a display that the chosen 
server is not available or these are not available for FreeBSD 9.

Is there a way to update /src by CVSUP or otherwise?

thanks,
Jos Chrispijn
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Re: Updating /src from command line

2012-05-29 Thread Jos Chrispijn

Hi Michael,

that works, thanks.

BR,
Jos Chrispijn

Michael Ross:

Am 22.05.2012, 21:59 Uhr, schrieb Michael Ross g...@ross.cx:


Am 22.05.2012, 21:43 Uhr, schrieb Jos Chrispijn ker...@webrz.net:

I want to compile my kernel and I read that for this I need to have 
the complete /SRC tree installed.
If I do this via sysinstall, I get either a display that the chosen 
server is not available or these are not available for FreeBSD 9.

Is there a way to update /src by CVSUP or otherwise?

thanks,
Jos Chrispijn



I do it like this:

Copy, read and modify
/usr/src/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile


Sorry, that is

/usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile

of course.


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Swap files and panics

2012-05-29 Thread Warren Block
Recently I rearranged partitions on an SSD.  The swap partition was 
eliminated in favor of a swap file on /usr.  This works, allows TRIM 
support on the swap space, and is easier to resize than a partition.


However, sometimes the system panics on shutdown.  It happens after 
syncing disks, so the filesystems are fine, but it's disconcerting.


I suspect but haven't yet managed to prove that it's only when swap is 
not empty.  A race condition involving when the filesystems are 
unmounted?  Or should there be some code in /etc/rc.d/addswap to run 
swapoff before shutdown?


This is on a very recent 9-STABLE amd64, i5 2500K.

rc.conf:
swapfile=/usr/swap/swap
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Re: Kernel Panic any help?

2012-05-29 Thread Jens Jahnke
Hi,

On 25 May 2012 20:01:44 -
John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:

JL panic: ffs_clusteralloc: map mismatch
JL 
JL Something's fairly badly screwed up on your disk.  My advice would
JL be to boot from a CD or USB key and run fsck to try to repair it.

the disk was pretty much f...ed up. I always got an access denied on
every operation I tried on the device node for the root partition.
I had to delete and re-create the partition.

Well I took the oportunity and upgraded to 9.0. ;-)

Thanks for the help,

Jens

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Re: Can't get irc/inspircd to build, any clues?

2012-05-29 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 28 May 2012 04:30, Howard Leadmon how...@leadmon.net wrote:

  Does anyone know if the irc/inspircd port for FreeBSD works?    I have
 tried it on an FBSD 9 server, as well as an older version of the FreeBSD
 with the same results.

  If I try and run make the build the port, I get the following error:


 # make
 ===  Building for inspircd-2.0.5
 make: cannot open BSDmakefile.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/irc/inspircd.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/irc/inspircd.
 #


 I figure maybe someone has gotten this to build, so figured I would toss it
 out here as using my googlefu I found years ago someone posting the same
 problem, but never found any resolution.

  Any ideas, as I would like to check out this software...


You probably need to run the configure script:
it seems to build just fine here via

% tar xf InspIRCd-2.0.5.tar.bz2
% cd inspircd
% ./configure
% make

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Re: newfs on a SSD

2012-05-29 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:01:33AM +0200, Christer Solskogen wrote:
 After years of waiting for a decent price on one of these I finally
 got one. The questions is, which options should I use on a SSD that
 will be / on my system. I see that newfs supports TRIM, so that will
 be turned on, but should I use journaling? gjournal? softupdates? soft
 updates journaling? I'm confused :)

Enabling TRIM with the '-t' option for newfs sounds like a good idea. Assuming
the underlaying device supports it. You can check that with the 'camcontrol
identify' command, assuming you're using the ada(4) driver.

OCZ has a page with tips for Linux. Some would apply to FreeBSD as well;
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?54379-Linux-Tips-tweaks-and-alignmenthighlight=linux

Aligning the partitions with the Erase Block Size is important. See: 
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives

One thing to keep in mind is to mount the filesystems you make on the SSD with
the noatime option. This to avoid a lot of unnecessary writes.

Some of the newfs parameters like blocks per cilinder group don't seem to make
much sense for an SSD. Since the controller of the SSD already does all kinds
of things to emulate a harddisk, I'm not sure if it makes much sense to tune
the filesystem's parameters much.

As for softupdates (journaled of not): try it and let us know if you see
differences, especially in write performance. :-)

The FreeBSD foundation has awarded a grant to port a special Flash filesystem
and tools to FreeBSD:
http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com/2012/03/new-project-nand-flash-support.html
It might be worthwhile to keep that in mind for the future. 

What I would certainly recommend is that you make a daily automated backup
(may I suggest calling rsync from cron at night?) of the SSD's filesystem to
an actual HDD, just to be sure.

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Re: newfs on a SSD

2012-05-29 Thread Pierre-Luc Drouin
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:01:33AM +0200, Christer Solskogen wrote:
  After years of waiting for a decent price on one of these I finally
  got one. The questions is, which options should I use on a SSD that
  will be / on my system. I see that newfs supports TRIM, so that will
  be turned on, but should I use journaling? gjournal? softupdates? soft
  updates journaling? I'm confused :)

 Enabling TRIM with the '-t' option for newfs sounds like a good idea.
 Assuming
 the underlaying device supports it. You can check that with the 'camcontrol
 identify' command, assuming you're using the ada(4) driver.

 OCZ has a page with tips for Linux. Some would apply to FreeBSD as well;

 http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?54379-Linux-Tips-tweaks-and-alignmenthighlight=linux

 Aligning the partitions with the Erase Block Size is important. See:
 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives

 One thing to keep in mind is to mount the filesystems you make on the SSD
 with
 the noatime option. This to avoid a lot of unnecessary writes.

 Some of the newfs parameters like blocks per cilinder group don't seem to
 make
 much sense for an SSD. Since the controller of the SSD already does all
 kinds
 of things to emulate a harddisk, I'm not sure if it makes much sense to
 tune
 the filesystem's parameters much.

 As for softupdates (journaled of not): try it and let us know if you see
 differences, especially in write performance. :-)

 The FreeBSD foundation has awarded a grant to port a special Flash
 filesystem
 and tools to FreeBSD:

 http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com/2012/03/new-project-nand-flash-support.html
 It might be worthwhile to keep that in mind for the future.

 What I would certainly recommend is that you make a daily automated backup
 (may I suggest calling rsync from cron at night?) of the SSD's filesystem
 to
 an actual HDD, just to be sure.

 Roland
 --
 R.F.Smith   http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/
 [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated]
 pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914  B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725)


Is there a tool in FreeBSD, similar to fstrim in Linux, that allows to
perform trimming through a cronjob as opposed to perform it every time data
is deleted? It supposedly results into a significant gain in performance...

Thanks!
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Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk

2012-05-29 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Mon May 28 20:22:58 2012
 Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:17:38 -0600
 From: Gary Aitken ga...@dreamchaser.org.r-bonomi.com
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk

 On 05/28/12 15:08, Robert Bonomi wrote:

   From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Mon May 28 14:10:55 2012
  Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:05:45 -0600
  From: Gary Aitkenfree...@dreamchaser.org.r-bonomi.com
  To: Polytroponfree...@edvax.de
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk
 
  On 5/25/2012 4:01 PM, Polytropon wrote:
 
  I should have mentioned that I did the (successful) test
  logging in as root (real console login). If you use su -
  or su root, the effect should be the same. You can always
  check the success of your operation with the ls -lo command.
 
  Nope.  That was the problem.  I had logged in on the vty as normal user
  and done su root.  Had to back all the way out and log in on the vty as
  root to make it work.
  
  I'm going to guess that you did 'su root', not 'su - root'.  The two 
  commands
  are *NOT* identical.   'su root' does not run the root 'login' scripts; thus
  environment variables (including path, user, logname etc.) are *not* set as
  they are on root login -- this causes some 'am i root' tests to fail.  OTOH,
  'su - root' should be equivalent to a root login in all respects.

 Thank you.  That explains a number of problems I've been having.  doh.

  NOTE; there will be issues if the 'working directory' of a parent process is
  the directory you are trying to delete.

 knew about that part
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Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk

2012-05-29 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Mon May 28 20:22:58 2012
 Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:17:38 -0600
 From: Gary Aitken ga...@dreamchaser.org.r-bonomi.com
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk

 On 05/28/12 15:08, Robert Bonomi wrote:

  I'm going to guess that you did 'su root', not 'su - root'.  The two 
  commands are *NOT* identical.   'su root' does not run the root 'login'
  scripts; thus environment variables (including path, user, logname etc.)
  are *not* set as they are on root login -- this causes some 'am i root'
  tests to fail.  OTOH, 'su - root' should be equivalent to a root login 
  in all respects.

 Thank you.  That explains a number of problems I've been having.  doh.

To misquote Mae West: When confronted with the choice between two mistakes,
I try to choose the one I haven't made before.

I've been doing this kind of stuff long enough that, under that philosophy,
I've seen things that hardly anybody else has ever experienced.  Luckily,
at least for me, I _do_ remember virtually all the mistakes I've made.

wry grin


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Re: why I am upset

2012-05-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 06:04:04AM -0500, Franci Nabalanci wrote:

 My French and Italian is enough for me, dear Sir. There are not just
 English on the world!!

Speak whatever language you want.   I don't support that part of a
former post.

 How do you know that I didn't contribute to the FreeBSD foundation?? Did
 you check my bank account??

Nothing to do with your bank account.   The OP is the indication
because if you were a contributer, you would have included some
useful information so those who are really doing the work would
have something to go on.

That post was useless and no help to improving the product.
Freeware is supported by all that create and use it.  It is
a community of supporters.   Join the community in some way
or keep quiet.  No, I don't expect you or others to be geniuses
like some of the developers and supporters - I certainly am not.
But, at least stop whining and be constructive.

jerry   

   
 
 
 On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote:
 
 
 
  On 26 May 2012, at 03:12, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Why I am upset but not just me?
  
   I am running KDE 4.8 from January on my Linux computer. Now is almost
  June and
   we got KDE 4.8 on FreeBSD too. 5 months testing and it works? No. The
  modern
   OS for the desktop computer doesn;t works. O.K. OS works but
  installatoon of 5
   months testing of KDE doesn;t.
   And help? Read /usr/ports/UOPDATING!! I red before I start inastallation
  but I
   am not sure if helpers did! Thank you for wasting my time.
  
   Mitja
 
  1/ English, learn it.
  2/ Remind me how much you paid for free software you've most likely never
  contributed to ?
  3/ You're too busy being a whiny raging kid to actually explain your
  problem
  4/ Even if you had, I doubt anyone would want to help you after your epic
  flame
 
 
  Seeing you do not even show the slightest hint of respect or gratitude
  towards the people who actually work on the software in their free time:
 
  5/ I'm gonna respectfully ask that you STFU
 
  You're such a good rager, I'm convinced you shan't need google to figure
  out the acronym.
 
 
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ARM NAS Server for FreeBSD?

2012-05-29 Thread Martin Laabs

Hello,

can anyone recommend me a ARM9/11 based platform that has support for 
freebsd to implement a nas server and router? Also other platforms could be 
interesting if they have a low power consumption. However - the performance 
should be somewhat better than the performance of the first atom cpus.


I would like to add at least two sata drives and gbit ethernet. (And a DSL 
modem - preferable already on board)


Best regards,
 Martin L.

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Re: How Do I Remove Clang

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas D. Dean

On 05/29/12 00:49, Matthew Seaman wrote:


Set WITHOUT_CLANG=yes in /etc/src.conf and do a normal buildworld cycle
plus 'make delete-old'

See src.conf(5) for more details.


This breaks normal make:

 cat /etc/src.conf
WITHOUT_CLANG=Yes

 cat Makefile
# Makefile for nanoBSD kld driver
CC=gcc
KMOD=lcd_socket
SRCS=lcd_socket.c
.include bsd.kmod.mk

 make
/usr/share/mk/bsd.own.mk, line 458: MK_CLANG can't be set by a user.

Tom Dean
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Re: How Do I Remove Clang

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas D. Dean

On 05/29/12 00:27, Thomas D. Dean wrote:

Oops, too fast.

 cat /etc/make.conf
PERL_VERSION=5.12.4
MK_CLANG_IS_CC=no

Tom Dean
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Re: newfs on a SSD

2012-05-29 Thread Warren Block

On Tue, 29 May 2012, Roland Smith wrote:


What I would certainly recommend is that you make a daily automated backup
(may I suggest calling rsync from cron at night?) of the SSD's filesystem to
an actual HDD, just to be sure.


sysutils/rsnapshot is convenient.  I used it to rsync the new SSD onto a 
hard disk.  Very space-efficient, and in a way, it's a slow mirror.

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kde4 on 8.3 and laptop

2012-05-29 Thread Jim Pazarena

I had kde3 running just fine on 8.2 on my laptop.

I have now installed 8.3 -and- kde4 on my laptop, and the kde system
will not work as expected.

when I type kdm  (which is at /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm)
I get the expected login screen (however the mouse dies), and after I login,
all I get is a small cli window in the top left corner. The mouse has gone
dead, and the keyboard doesn't respond, altho there is a prompt in the cli
window.

All I can do at this point is hold the power button in to reboot.
If I do not try running kdm, the normal cli works 100%, the ethernet works,
and the mouse always seems alive (altho in the cli the mouse is of no value).

Suggestions would be very appreciated.
--
Jim Pazarena fqu...@paz.bz
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Re: kde4 on 8.3 and laptop

2012-05-29 Thread Gary Aitken
On 05/29/12 22:15, Jim Pazarena wrote:
 I had kde3 running just fine on 8.2 on my laptop.
 
 I have now installed 8.3 -and- kde4 on my laptop, and the kde system
 will not work as expected.
 
 when I type kdm (which is at /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm)
 I get the expected login screen (however the mouse dies), and after I login,
 all I get is a small cli window in the top left corner. The mouse has gone
 dead, and the keyboard doesn't respond, altho there is a prompt in the cli
 window.
 
 All I can do at this point is hold the power button in to reboot.
 If I do not try running kdm, the normal cli works 100%, the ethernet works,
 and the mouse always seems alive (altho in the cli the mouse is of no value).
 
 Suggestions would be very appreciated.

I don't know about the mouse dieing.  I'm running 9.0 and I've seen that once 
or twice when first setting up X.  You don't need to reboot.  Do altFn to 
switch to a different vty.  Log in on that vty, do a ps to find the process you 
used to start kdm, (ps -ax | grep kdm) and kill -TERM that process.  That 
should get you back to a regular prompt on the original vty.  Do altF1 to 
go back to that screen.

Gary
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Re: kde4 on 8.3 and laptop

2012-05-29 Thread Brian W.
On May 29, 2012 10:28 PM, Gary Aitken free...@dreamchaser.org wrote:

 On 05/29/12 22:15, Jim Pazarena wrote:
  I had kde3 running just fine on 8.2 on my laptop.
 
  I have now installed 8.3 -and- kde4 on my laptop, and the kde system
  will not work as expected.
 
  when I type kdm (which is at /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm)
  I get the expected login screen (however the mouse dies), and after I
login,
  all I get is a small cli window in the top left corner. The mouse has
gone
  dead, and the keyboard doesn't respond, altho there is a prompt in the
cli
  window.
 
  All I can do at this point is hold the power button in to reboot.
  If I do not try running kdm, the normal cli works 100%, the ethernet
works,
  and the mouse always seems alive (altho in the cli the mouse is of no
value).
 
  Suggestions would be very appreciated.

 I don't know about the mouse dieing.  I'm running 9.0 and I've seen that
once or twice when first setting up X.  You don't need to reboot.  Do
altFn to switch to a different vty.  Log in on that vty, do a ps to
find the process you used to start kdm, (ps -ax | grep kdm) and kill -TERM
that process.  That should get you back to a regular prompt on the original
vty.  Do altF1 to go back to that screen.

 Gary

Ctr-alt-shift-backspace has also killed many a stuck x session.
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