Re: OT: Robotics or embedded or hardware programming... what is this called?
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:47:48 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 22 Jun 2012, Ian Smith wrote: I thought I saw something somewhere (maybe just wishful thinking) about FreeBSD on the Arduino, which normally runs a sort of embedded Linux, that could be very interesting; the hardware is cheap (kits at Jaycar stores in Australia anyway), very modular design, and there are heaps of fascinating projects. I want the quadricopter to follow me around the room at parties - at my age I need something really impressive :) Well, there is devel/arduino. It's not emdedded Linux, but an IDE for writing and downloading code. The Arduino is a small embedded controller based on the Atmel AVR microcontrollers. They are quite powerful, easy to program, and accessible for experimenters. You can skip the Arduino environment if you like, using the same lower-level tools like avr-gcc directly. And the Arduino board can be used as a programmer, downloading code to plain AVR chips and avoiding the need for more Arduino boards. Talk about the Arduino on FreeBSD is generally on the freebsd-embedded mailing list. Thanks Warren. I got the wrong idea that Arduino ran an embedded Linux from a friend, a Linux-using Electrical Engineer, but not a programmer. I'd also (too) briefly glanced at www.arduino.cc and noted Windows, Mac and Linux references, and Linux binaries, but had no idea you had ported the GUI. Could you perhaps try pushing the FreeBSD port upstream to Arduino, so people can find out that it exists from there? I hope to explore further once I get 9.x running; this 8.2-R system is chokka, not enough remaining space for a JDK, nor even a JRE :) The Microchip PIC microcontrollers compete with the AVR. There are some FreeBSD ports for programming those, but there are many varying chips and the hardware needed to program some of them differs. I don't know if there is anything directly comparable to the Arduino IDE. ARM processors have become so cheap that they are starting to compete in this arena also. I looked at PICs ages ago, but just wasn't enticed by their instruction set; as an old S/3[67]0 bod I've always fallen for the more orthogonal processors like the Signetics 2650 (hands up who's heard of that!), 680[59]/68K and more lately AVRs, Harvard architecture despite little- endianness. Not sure there's room left in my head for MIPS or ARM .. On the FreeBSD side there's advanced work, I gather, on ARM and Atmel MEGA 32-bit and MIPS platforms at least. Personally I consider these 'big iron' and far prefer writing in macro assembler for little Atmel Tiny25s and such, but that's strictly Look Ma, no OS! programming. Another option: the freebsd-wireless list has had some very interesting traffic about the TP-Link TL-WR1043ND, a $50 MIPS-based wireless router with Atheros 802.11n chipset, USB, and gigabit Ethernet which can run FreeBSD directly. Not sure how usable it is at present. Interesting. I'm subs'd to wireless@ and embedded@ (previously small@) but obviously haven't been paying enough attention :) Thanks again. cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it?
Hey there, I'm presently in the process of trying to do a portupgrade from rt-3.8.8 to 3.8.13. By all estimations, this is a minor bump. Already, I've encountered several annoyances due to ABI changes, such as the libtool2.4 fun. With normal portupgrade, this forces you to go fix the dependent port. Finally, I just applied -r, which should update all dependent packages, but it seems to upgrade them unconditionally. Ergo, I've since built a new version of perl, a new verion of python, rebuilt every perl module on the system, am presently rebuilding apache22, and I'm sure the system will turn around and require me to rebuild postgres real soon. You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says don't upgrade every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the dependency chain I need a newer version of a thing, then do it. Am I just missing it in the manpages, or does such a thing really not exist? -Dan -- You recreate the stars in the sky with cows? -Furrball, March 7 2005, on Katamari Damacy Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it?
On 6/25/12 9:53 AM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Hey there, I'm presently in the process of trying to do a portupgrade from rt-3.8.8 to 3.8.13. By all estimations, this is a minor bump. Already, I've encountered several annoyances due to ABI changes, such as the libtool2.4 fun. With normal portupgrade, this forces you to go fix the dependent port. Finally, I just applied -r, which should update all dependent packages, but it seems to upgrade them unconditionally. Ergo, I've since built a new version of perl, a new verion of python, rebuilt every perl module on the system, am presently rebuilding apache22, and I'm sure the system will turn around and require me to rebuild postgres real soon. You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says don't upgrade every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the dependency chain I need a newer version of a thing, then do it. Am I just missing it in the manpages, or does such a thing really not exist? -Dan We've been happily using portmanager for ages, it does just that :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is ZFS production ready?
Edward M eam1edw...@gmail.com wrote: That reply was not meant for you, so why do you care? If it wasn't meant for everyone on the list, why was it sent to the list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it?
On 25/06/2012 08:53, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: I'm presently in the process of trying to do a portupgrade from rt-3.8.8 to 3.8.13. By all estimations, this is a minor bump. Already, I've encountered several annoyances due to ABI changes, such as the libtool2.4 fun. With normal portupgrade, this forces you to go fix the dependent port. Finally, I just applied -r, which should update all dependent packages, but it seems to upgrade them unconditionally. Ergo, I've since built a new version of perl, a new verion of python, rebuilt every perl module on the system, am presently rebuilding apache22, and I'm sure the system will turn around and require me to rebuild postgres real soon. You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says don't upgrade every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the dependency chain I need a newer version of a thing, then do it. Am I just missing it in the manpages, or does such a thing really not exist? It has been many years since I used portupgrade with any regularity, and many of those neurones have been recycled. However, I do recall that: portupgrade -a should update all out-of-date ports on your system. portupgrade -r pkgname should update pkgname (if out of date) and all packages that depend on pkgname. portupgrade -R pkgname should update everything that pkgname depends on plus pkgname (if out of date). 'portupgrade -R' sounds like what you want. I believe that the meaning of the -r and -R flags in portupgrade is reversed from pkg_info(1) which is annoyingly inconsistent. Nowadays I usually use portmaster, where: portmaster pkgname works equivalently to 'portupgrade -R pkgname' except that portmaster /always/ reinstalls pkgname even if it is up to date. ie. the standard default action of portmaster is to do exactly what you want. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it?
On 06/25/12 10:40, Andrea Venturoli wrote: On 06/25/12 09:53, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Hey there, I'm presently in the process of trying to do a portupgrade from rt-3.8.8 to 3.8.13. By all estimations, this is a minor bump. Already, I've encountered several annoyances due to ABI changes, such as the libtool2.4 fun. With normal portupgrade, this forces you to go fix the dependent port. Finally, I just applied -r, which should update all dependent packages, but it seems to upgrade them unconditionally. -r will upgrade all dependent ports *if* a newer version is available. -rf will upgrade all dependent ports unconditionally. You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says don't upgrade every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the dependency chain I need a newer version of a thing, then do it. I'm not sure what you mean. I guess you waned portupgrade -R rt, which will upgrade all ports rt ^ wanted is depending on. HTH. bye av. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it?
On 06/25/12 09:53, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Hey there, I'm presently in the process of trying to do a portupgrade from rt-3.8.8 to 3.8.13. By all estimations, this is a minor bump. Already, I've encountered several annoyances due to ABI changes, such as the libtool2.4 fun. With normal portupgrade, this forces you to go fix the dependent port. Finally, I just applied -r, which should update all dependent packages, but it seems to upgrade them unconditionally. -r will upgrade all dependent ports *if* a newer version is available. -rf will upgrade all dependent ports unconditionally. You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says don't upgrade every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the dependency chain I need a newer version of a thing, then do it. I'm not sure what you mean. I guess you waned portupgrade -R rt, which will upgrade all ports rt is depending on. HTH. bye av. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Question about missing posix shared mutex
Hi guys! According to the sphinxsearch dev-team freebsd does not support posix pthread shared mutex but later on i found this post that gave some pointers that it might been implemented into freebsd 9: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/What-is-the-status-of-thread-process-shared-synchronization-td4224458.html However 9.0-RELEASE doesnt have it so i tried out 9-STABLE but it isnt in there either. There is also a pretty long bugthread on sphinxsearch's bugtracker about it: http://sphinxsearch.com/bugs/view.php?id=1041 Basically my question is if there is work being done on this and if we will see it in 9.1? Or should i abandon freebsd for our sphinxhosts? :( Best regards Daniel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer
Hello, I have 10 jpeg slides (screen shoots) and I want to print them to a Postscript printer (CUPS controlled), on each page 2 slides. I know I could make some presentation from them or wrap them into a HTML file, but I was thinking there must be some easy way with some tool from our ports. Any idea? Thanks in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
freebsd-update from recent 8-STABLE to 9.0-RELEASE issues
Howdy! Any one have any idea what is going on below? [root@shiela]/root# uname -a FreeBSD shiela.vulpes.vvelox.net 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Feb 25 04:55:35 CST 2012 kits...@shiela.vulpes.vvelox.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/sheila amd64 [root@shiela]/root# freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. Exit 1 [root@shiela]/root# ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.*
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I am amazed anyone still has a working Zip drive! I have 250MB zipdrive and 100MB disks. all works properly over USB ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Understanding XDM
On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:19:54 +0200 Christian Graulund cutu...@gmail.com wrote: snip The others have answered your questions concerning DM v. WM, but if you are finding XDM annoying to configure, you may possible wish to take a look at slim, x11/slim. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Question about missing posix shared mutex
Daniel Ylitalo wrote: Hi guys! According to the sphinxsearch dev-team freebsd does not support posix pthread shared mutex but later on i found this post that gave some pointers that it might been implemented into freebsd 9: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/What-is-the-status-of-thread-process- shared-synchronization-td4224458.html However 9.0-RELEASE doesnt have it so i tried out 9-STABLE but it isnt in there either. There is also a pretty long bugthread on sphinxsearch's bugtracker about it: http://sphinxsearch.com/bugs/view.php?id=1041 Basically my question is if there is work being done on this and if we will see it in 9.1? Or should i abandon freebsd for our sphinxhosts? :( Sorry not to answer your question, but have you tried installing any of the following from the ports system to see if they work? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=sphinxstype=all I do not use this and have no experience with it, but if these ports are indeed broken it might be nice for the port maintainer to know about. If they work, then why fuss over theoretics? -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I have 10 jpeg slides (screen shoots) and I want to print them to a Postscript printer (CUPS controlled), on each page 2 slides. I know I could make some presentation from them or wrap them into a HTML file, but I was thinking there must be some easy way with some tool from our ports. Any idea? Thanks in advance I'll take that Any at face value. Did you check your printer's manual? Many printers these days can print photos stand-alone. The least hassle option might to be to load your photos on a card or memory stick, and use your printer's stand-alone functions, since I gather from your question that you are not embedding the photos in some larger document. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer
El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 05:10:32AM -0500, Lars Eighner escribió: I have 10 jpeg slides (screen shoots) and I want to print them to a Postscript printer (CUPS controlled), on each page 2 slides. I know I could make some presentation from them or wrap them into a HTML file, but I was thinking there must be some easy way with some tool from our ports. Any idea? Thanks in advance I'll take that Any at face value. Did you check your printer's manual? Many printers these days can print photos stand-alone. The least hassle option might to be to load your photos on a card or memory stick, and use your printer's stand-alone functions, since I gather from your question that you are not embedding the photos in some larger document. I was thinking in some UNIX way to do so, like: 1. converting the 10 jpeg to 10 .eps files 2. running psmerge to bring the 10 EPS files into one PS file 3. running psnup to get the 10 pages re-arranged, 2 on one page; but psmerge does not produce something usefull; I don't know if my printer has such options or if I can get access to such stand-alone functions; it is our central printer and managed by IT; matthias -- Matthias Apitz e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:15:36 +0200 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Hello, I have 10 jpeg slides (screen shoots) and I want to print them to a Postscript printer (CUPS controlled), on each page 2 slides. I know I could make some presentation from them or wrap them into a HTML file, but I was thinking there must be some easy way with some tool from our ports. Any idea? Thanks in advance I would just load them up in print them in Libreoffice and print them once I was happy with how the page layout looked. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de was heard to say: I was thinking in some UNIX way to do so, like: 1. converting the 10 jpeg to 10 .eps files 2. running psmerge to bring the 10 EPS files into one PS file 3. running psnup to get the 10 pages re-arranged, 2 on one page; If you're looking at 10 images, just fire up OpenOffice and make a presentation or a drawing with 2 images per page. Figure out the Unix way if you're looking at 10 images every day :-) just my 2 cc Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.*
In the next episode: Modern home video with Betamax and LaserDisc ;) -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Omega-Zip-Drives-on-FreeBSD-8-tp5721532p5721678.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
question crash #144315
Hello!
We have a problem provided in - kern/144315: [ipfw] [panic] freebsd
8-stable reboot after add ipfw rules with netgraph ng_car
Our assembly of freebsd:
FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Sep 27 01:19:13 MSD 2010
kain@shaper:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SHAPER i386
Reset occurs at different times, in not dependences on quantity of rules.
Thus when restarting the same rules, but thus system are applied remains in
working condition.
With adding of the new subscriber in billing the script is executed
example: $n_inet_login=100654
/sbin/ipfw table 10 add $2 $in
/sbin/ipfw table 20 add $2 $out
/usr/sbin/ngctl mkpeer ipfw: car $in upper
/usr/sbin/ngctl name ipfw:$in $n_inet_login
/usr/sbin/ngctl connect $n_inet_login: ipfw: lower $out
/usr/sbin/ngctl msg $n_inet_login: setconf { upstream={ cbs=$o_cbs ebs=$o_cbs
cir=$n_cir greenAction=1 yellowAction=1 redAction=2 mode=3 } downstream={
cbs=$o_cbs ebs=$o_cbs cir=$n_cir greenAction=1 yellowAction=1 redAction=2
mode=3 } }
To any moment simply passes system restarting.
There are questions:
1) Whether there is this problem in x64?
2) Whether Esti this problem in the freebsd-9 version (i386, x64)?
3) Or can eat any decision still?
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С уважением,
Корнев Юрий Юрьевич mailto:ukor...@city-link.info
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Re: freebsd-update from recent 8-STABLE to 9.0-RELEASE issues
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:21:18 -0500 Zane C. B-H. wrote: Howdy! Any one have any idea what is going on below? [root@shiela]/root# uname -a FreeBSD shiela.vulpes.vvelox.net 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Feb 25 04:55:35 CST 2012 kits...@shiela.vulpes.vvelox.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/sheila amd64 [root@shiela]/root# freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. Exit 1 [root@shiela]/root# freebsd-update doesn't support development branches, you have to go from security branch to security branch. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.*
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Jakub Lach jakub_l...@mailplus.pl wrote: In the next episode: Modern home video with Betamax and LaserDisc ;) -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Omega-Zip-Drives-on-FreeBSD-8-tp5721532p5721678.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org What's wrong with VHS and Cassette Tape? VHS has superior resolution to HD because it's analog!! :-P :-P :-P ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update from recent 8-STABLE to 9.0-RELEASE issues
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:26:12 +0100 RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:21:18 -0500 Zane C. B-H. wrote: Howdy! Any one have any idea what is going on below? [root@shiela]/root# uname -a FreeBSD shiela.vulpes.vvelox.net 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Feb 25 04:55:35 CST 2012 kits...@shiela.vulpes.vvelox.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/sheila amd64 [root@shiela]/root# freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. Exit 1 [root@shiela]/root# freebsd-update doesn't support development branches, you have to go from security branch to security branch. I know it can't be used to update to stable, but I've not encountered any thing in the documentation saying it can't be used to update from stable it to a release. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program
Jakub Lach jakub_lach at mailplus.pl writes: I am more concerned about an aspect of the language the clang tools are written in, namely the use of object-oriented paradigm of c++ (it is a phony paradigm, one that does not exist in nature or reality, which explains the failure rate of C++ OO projects historically and current usage decline). I sense that the relative slowness of generated code has to do with it. Perhaps some other attributes of that code's quality too, even if not now, then in the future. Yes, this is one thing really puzzled me. Maybe it's related to Apple's affinity to Objective-C? Well, let me add some more and important facts to this discussion. If it caused so much emotions and name calling, then at least everybody should know what this is all about. Clang is a compiler front-end for C, C++, Objective-C and Objective-C++ programming languages and it uses LLVM as its back-end. Both, clang and LLVM, are written in C++. LLVM provides middle layers of compilation process and is e.g. responsible for optimization of intermediate code, which next will be converted and linked into machine-dependent assembly code. Based on this source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective-C the Objective-C was influenced by Smalltalk's object-oriented programming model, while C++ by Simula's. This has implications for characteristics and performance of Objective-C, for example: - there are quite few important language elements in C++ that are not in Objective-C, like namespaces, multiple inheritance, operator overloading, etc - ... Objective-C applications tend to be larger than similar C or C++ applications because Objective-C dynamic typing does not allow methods to be stripped or inlined. - ... Because Objective-C uses dynamic runtime typing and because all method calls are function calls (or, in some cases, syscalls), many common performance optimizations cannot be applied to Objective-C methods (for example: inlining, constant propagation, interprocedural optimizations, and scalar replacement of aggregates). This limits the performance of Objective-C abstractions relative to similar abstractions in languages such as C++ where such optimizations are possible. - ... Objective-C is decidedly geared toward run-time decisions while C++ is geared toward compile-time decisions. The tension between dynamic and static programming involves many of the classic trade-offs in programming: dynamic features add flexibility, static features add speed and type checking. My Note: please keep in mind we are talking about language used for writing clang, a compiler tool. So, Objective-C has disadvantage with regard to size od generated code, performance, and optimization as compared to C++. But both share OO (object-oriented) paradigm, which many pros consider synthetic, or pulled out of thin air if you prefer, with negative effects on devs mental health, design, and resulting code quality. I hope I got all facts right -:) It seems to me that switching to clang was a correct strategic decision for reasons linked to GPLv3 license as described in my prior post and by other thread posters. But there seems to be some price paid related to written in C++ facts described by me in both posts, which may make some people come to a conclusion that the decision was based more on a political factor (Apple) than on technical merits. Because I did not participate or followed FreeBSD's internal process, I can not express any opinion to what extend both factors were considered and discussed. OK. Judge for yourselves, and have fun. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer
El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 05:37:13AM -0500, Zane C. B-H. escribió: Postscript printer (CUPS controlled), on each page 2 slides. I know I could make some presentation from them or wrap them into a HTML file, but I was thinking there must be some easy way with some tool from our ports. Any idea? Thanks in advance I would just load them up in print them in Libreoffice and print them once I was happy with how the page layout looked. I did this with OpenOffice 3.x and you have - 10 times to Inser Picture - 10 times pic-up the correct picture from the file dialog - 10 times to move the picture to the correct place in the page - 10 times to scale the image so that two fit and adjust them a bit - 4 time Create new page it took me something like half hour to get it printed; this is not even an option if you do it only once :-( matthias -- Matthias Apitz e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer
I did this with OpenOffice 3.x and you have - 10 times to Inser Picture - 10 times pic-up the correct picture from the file dialog - 10 times to move the picture to the correct place in the page - 10 times to scale the image so that two fit and adjust them a bit - 4 time Create new page it took me something like half hour to get it printed; this is not even an option if you do it only once :-( simplest case: 1)convert them in batch to postscript. 2)place it with mpage, many on one page. there are probably other simple solutions. more complex - 1 and use TeX :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program
programming involves many of the classic trade-offs in programming: dynamic features add flexibility, static features add speed and type checking. My Note: please keep in mind we are talking about language used for writing clang, a compiler tool. So, Objective-C has disadvantage with regard to size od generated code, performance, and optimization as compared to C++. But both share OO (object-oriented) paradigm, which many pros consider synthetic, or pulled out of thin air if you prefer, with negative effects on devs mental health, design, and resulting code quality. I hope I got all facts right -:) most probably, but what does it mean if clang have multiple layers, frontend, LLVM backend, etc. etc. for normal user who just needs C compiler. It doesn't matter how it do this but what are the results. It seems to me that switching to clang was a correct strategic decision for reasons linked to GPLv3 license as described in my prior post and by other thread posters. You didn't wrote anything new here. But there seems to be some price paid related to written in C++ facts described by me in both posts, which may make some people come to a conclusion that the decision was based more on a political factor (Apple) than on technical merits. It doesn't really care how clang is written but how it works. And it was political decision because compiler itself, on GPLv3 licence, does not block anyhow distributing it's output - binaries. C++ libraries can be limiting, but... wasn't replaced. If it would be truly about removing GPLv3 code that hurts, replacing libstdc++ would be first thing to do. For now we have removed GPL code that doesn't hurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program
On 25/06/2012 13:56, Wojciech Puchar wrote: C++ libraries can be limiting, but... wasn't replaced. If it would be truly about removing GPLv3 code that hurts, replacing libstdc++ would be first thing to do. I assume you mean like the new libc++? http://wiki.freebsd.org/NewC%2B%2BStack For now we have removed GPL code that doesn't hurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program
If it would be truly about removing GPLv3 code that hurts, replacing libstdc++ would be first thing to do. I assume you mean like the new libc++? http://wiki.freebsd.org/NewC%2B%2BStack yes. this is actually GREAT MOVE! even if it's slower, object oriented languages are not about speed anyway. This should be done first, not compiler. Compiler - only after actually better would exist. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update from recent 8-STABLE to 9.0-RELEASE issues
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:53:45 -0500 Zane C. B-H. wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:26:12 +0100 RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: freebsd-update doesn't support development branches, you have to go from security branch to security branch. I know it can't be used to update to stable, but I've not encountered any thing in the documentation saying it can't be used to update from stable it to a release. From the man page: ... the FreeBSD Security Team only builds updates for releases shipped in binary form by the FreeBSD Release Engineering Team ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer
El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 02:52:24PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar escribió: simplest case: 1)convert them in batch to postscript. I did this already with: for i in *.jpg do ; convert $i $i.ps ; done this works fin; 2)place it with mpage, many on one page. and now a mpage -bA4 -4 *.ps /tmp/all.ps gives a 10 page PS file, each page divided by fine lines into 4 sub pages; but on any of the 10 pages one of the slides is put into the upper left sub page area; what I'm missing? the man page of mpage says ... with the text reduced in size so that several pages appear on one sheet of paper...; it seems it does work with images, or? matthias -- Matthias Apitz e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 02:52:24PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar escribió: simplest case: 1)convert them in batch to postscript. I did this already with: for i in *.jpg do ; convert $i $i.ps ; done this works fin; 2)place it with mpage, many on one page. and now a mpage -bA4 -4 *.ps /tmp/all.ps gives a 10 page PS file, each page divided by fine lines into 4 sub pages; but on any of the 10 pages one of the slides is put into the upper left sub page area; what I'm missing? -c___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update from recent 8-STABLE to 9.0-RELEASE issues
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:12:36 +0100 RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:53:45 -0500 Zane C. B-H. wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:26:12 +0100 RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: freebsd-update doesn't support development branches, you have to go from security branch to security branch. I know it can't be used to update to stable, but I've not encountered any thing in the documentation saying it can't be used to update from stable it to a release. From the man page: ... the FreeBSD Security Team only builds updates for releases shipped in binary form by the FreeBSD Release Engineering Team Right, that is exactly what I was referring to. 9.0-RELEASE is one of those as far as I know. It is ambiguous as to if that means being upgraded from or to and the error message given does not indicate what is being upgraded from is not supported, so I am a bit confused on if this is to be expected or not. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8?
You can probably turn hw.ixgbe.num_queues down to 2 or 4 and cut your mbuf consumption dramatically without noticing any loss of performance. -A On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Rick Miller wrote: On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Jack Vogel jfvo...@gmail.com wrote: Increase your system mbuf pool size, you do not want that failure to happen. Thanks, Jack. I saw a thread where you discussed this. You are referring to kern.ipc.nmbclusters, correct? Should I also adjust the following? hw.ixgbe.rxd hw.ixgbe.txd hw.ixgbe.num_queues hw.intr_storm_threshold -- Andrew Boyerabo...@averesystems.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8?
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Jack Vogel jfvo...@gmail.com wrote: Would probably be good to take care of the storm threshold if you haven't, set it to 0 and you disable the check, that's what we do internally. As for the queues and number of descriptors, that's kind of up to you, different work loads and environments work best with different setups. Hopefully, when you get rid of the rx ring setup failure you will get things working. Thanks, Jack. I did get rid of the rx ring failure. Link status still shows no carrier. I think everything looks right from the host's perspective. -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: Robotics or embedded or hardware programming... what is this called?
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Ian Smith wrote: On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:47:48 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 22 Jun 2012, Ian Smith wrote: Well, there is devel/arduino. It's not emdedded Linux, but an IDE for writing and downloading code. The Arduino is a small embedded controller based on the Atmel AVR microcontrollers. They are quite powerful, easy to program, and accessible for experimenters. You can skip the Arduino environment if you like, using the same lower-level tools like avr-gcc directly. And the Arduino board can be used as a programmer, downloading code to plain AVR chips and avoiding the need for more Arduino boards. Talk about the Arduino on FreeBSD is generally on the freebsd-embedded mailing list. Thanks Warren. I got the wrong idea that Arduino ran an embedded Linux from a friend, a Linux-using Electrical Engineer, but not a programmer. I'd also (too) briefly glanced at www.arduino.cc and noted Windows, Mac and Linux references, and Linux binaries, but had no idea you had ported the GUI. Could you perhaps try pushing the FreeBSD port upstream to Arduino, so people can find out that it exists from there? There was an updated entry mentioning the port in the Playground, which now seems to have reverted back to the old not-yet-working procedure for FreeBSD 6.1. And I see that 1.0.1 is out, so now the port needs to be updated. There doesn't appear to be a way for me to edit that. I can send mail to the site about mentioning the FreeBSD port on the downloads page. Or you can, if you like. Something I forgot to mention earlier is that it may now be possible to buy Arduinos or compatibles at Radio Shack stores in the US. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it?
You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says don't upgrade every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the dependency chain I need a newer version of a thing, then do it. The problem is that the versioning in the ports system doesn't distinguish between upgrades that present interface changes and upgrades that are just nits, new features, or minor bug fixes. Port makefiles can contain version dependency info, e.g., this port needs at least version N.M of package X, but few of them do. This has bitten me in the past with PHP and pcre. In fact, PHP5 won't work with old versions of pcre, but the PHP port maintainer refuses to put in version dependency info, because he thinks that every port should be up to date all the time. R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it?
On 2012-06-25 11:47, John Levine wrote: You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says don't upgrade every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the dependency chain I need a newer version of a thing, then do it. The problem is that the versioning in the ports system doesn't distinguish between upgrades that present interface changes and upgrades that are just nits, new features, or minor bug fixes. Port makefiles can contain version dependency info, e.g., this port needs at least version N.M of package X, but few of them do. This has bitten me in the past with PHP and pcre. In fact, PHP5 won't work with old versions of pcre, but the PHP port maintainer refuses to put in version dependency info, because he thinks that every port should be up to date all the time. There's also the issue of things like Perl modules - most of them will just work, even with a newer version of perl, but a few have sections that need to be compiled against perl itself. So if you update the Perl port, you need to at least recompile those. (I'm simplifying a bit.) But there is no good way to mark in general which ports will 'just work' with an updated dependency, and which care what version of the dependency was installed when they were compiled. This is separate from versioned dependencies: Again to use Perl modules as an example, DBI for instance is will work with any version of perl since 5.8 or so - but if you change which version of perl you are using you'll need to recompile and reinstall. Rebuilding everything is a bit overkill, but it beats missing one that needed to be rebuilt. Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is ZFS production ready?
On 06/25/2012 08:00 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Edward M eam1edw...@gmail.com wrote: That reply was not meant for you, so why do you care? If it wasn't meant for everyone on the list, why was it sent to the list? by accident. still learning how to use email client:-[ . once i noticed my email was also to this list. i was hoping subscribers would notice it was by mistake. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.*
Thomas Mueller wrote: from Al Plant n...@hdk5.net: Thanks Of the 4 I had to play with one literally fell apart one scsi card is throwing errors. The one I finally got working is an old IDE on a FreeBSD 10 box that I experiment with. This should work fine to archive the Omega disks we found. Again thanks for heading me on the right path. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 What fell apart? Was it the Iomega Zip drive, the disk, or the scsi card? I assume Omega is a typo or memory lapse for what should be Iomega? IDE has given way on modern motherboards in favor of SATA, but current OSes would still have IDE/ATAPI support. You might still be advised to backup or transfer the data on Zip disks to CDs, DVDs or USB sticks or hard drives. Remember, Zip disks are just glorified floppies. Tom ## Aloha, Iomega yes. Button on front of one unit that released the disks played fell inside when pushed and the plastic cover fell off the top. Dried out from age probably. We are going to put the diles on to flash drive and then onto cd's and DVD's as many files are .jpg or artwork video etc. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: changing md5 hashed for sha
On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:28:38 -0400 Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Christopher J. Ruwe c...@cruwe.de writes: For setting the dafault hash used to hash /etc/master.passwd, it has been recommended changing md5 for something more secure in the sense of being more expensive to crack. The handbook describes the procedure used in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/crypt.html. Allegedly, hashes which were hashed with one of the sha-functions begin with the character $6$. Afer having changed my /etc/login.conf accordingly and having reset the passwords, the given there is not md5 anymore (I have tried with md5), but does not begin with the character $6$, but, as md5, with $1$, which is supposed to be md5-hashed. I'm not following. Are you saying that you are resetting the passwords after setting login.conf, but new passwords aren't being created with the new hash type? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Yes, you are following correctly that the hash mechanism did not appear to have changed. It was OSI-8 error on my part, as Mike Tancsa (one message later) helped me to understand. Cheers, -- Christopher J. Ruwe TZ: GMT + 2h signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.*
Wojciech Puchar wrote: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I am amazed anyone still has a working Zip drive! I have 250MB zipdrive and 100MB disks. all works properly over USB ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Aloha Woj, How did you get the drive to work with USB? By a hardware adapter? I read there is a USB to ide on the market. -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: changing md5 hashed for sha
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 oops ... forwarding to the list also - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:06:07 -0400 Mike Tancsa m...@sentex.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/23/2012 9:37 AM, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: For setting the dafault hash used to hash /etc/master.passwd, it has been recommended changing md5 for something more secure in the sense of being more expensive to crack. The handbook describes the procedure used in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/crypt.html. Allegedly, hashes which were hashed with one of the sha-functions begin with the character $6$. Afer having changed my /etc/login.conf accordingly and having reset the passwords, the given there is not md5 anymore (I have tried with md5), but does not begin with the character $6$, but, as md5, with $1$, which is supposed to be md5-hashed. I fear I am a bit dense here, what am I getting wrong? Are you sure you ran cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf after adjusting the values in login.conf ? Also, this will only work on relatively recent versions of FreeBSD. ---Mike - -- - --- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, m...@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJP551fAAoJEJXHwM2kc8rXS34H/j+uxWq8Pa9j0iXpehObx2iY LeeCZx7YbSv9AwGVHy/gTRtYP1uStBNn79oKV0ANSyjOT3F7l1MuygfJAqfXIKDm WdN4KX2D3tpAjVMdce1zX2rSy4OtXLYXpBXTiGmP2d/erAEtE9B8gJ8GQWDh0gWz 14CkQyefcF2YvmepSj3+9P69EzjlEm6vDMPyY/nrMlJcT8+ujtZX325+kQzQiiFX FFasbqekazHCUnKGZZY9arY01AxPKg5e2PXFZPQf3qQy3jHqOupnM3ei3D39O9aV gqJ/k2XDPjZYqAIy0gyPi99q4fCueYQFQrm2tyeTkV6+OxM8kdD5czx/FvySiG8= =FVSP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Ahhh I am sure I did not run cap_mkdb. Didn't say so in the relevant section of the handbook and I was to lazy to thooughly read the manpage. Thanks, I have the correct hashes now. Cheers, - - -- Christopher TZ: GMT + 2h - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP6KvdAAoJEJTIKW/o3iwUATEQAO0tDflkfluM4wTiUvhFvN31 PLEZKGcOjDfVnXaIqRuu5D1pPWc532xeST2H3mLJVFktjatrx/LbEy7O5w3diB1J zMM/SdiiSaIGyhSdWwTEgsGpd1jhG31RWGWtVLFzNMvfBpk/peiAbOwBcYqnKw85 zJOfDFLFcAkdP9jmiXF16iKCYcANK9R+2l0mCJ4qEdV6iIn8KAtrNxzS4i0ICzZB jBPO+bVbNkU3S7U/EXm449EvOFk+tVLxZcny3hyYWyY9ccH9Z7kyXrPRrb7cspHp iAKmWsJnntAlp7ogFYdjdOvbCeKfgtCGBnj8K9v7XYEs/KjUmschXYeIf4STsDL2 d7dLOMYz2fqYrH9toM0AvEPJuJR6cXm8XmLco7eBd2tjhdocSQ4t5nQXO/EhEGUs ESJ+ibcGtpmbad8vY0z88AIUeyrq1pQ9Ve+ceu0uQ63UTnZb3Zfu8f3PsdtCzV/2 jDYmmB1f9gjPp/NEZXPlQT7r1fTlw2IDEmU/JJEghBUIiTVuWtOvkCqG9ErYIdJK CWXV7slHlQ0d0ssCjL6wukTKpL0lS03YsvSYgoDee1h9fhLqaYpzhr+rduzxS79z q8vyaz/SRUlebTcHRZMSW9+FA/eJ3NHEv6y+d0w08OrhqmOvOxpo1dKEBdWo/JTN qP89RAUQLMfsp5NgU61o =QvC/ - -END PGP SIGNATURE- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP6LOeAAoJEJTIKW/o3iwUXE4QANZl/NvWTqumJJdh2p3aDUKd F1jCYfXl7d1GI/2dxsMVfcSWqGnx6WL8wzQUKipHAfCDtILhEv+2XRQ2zLM+Snbn qJz3D3Qb1ctSQdXlW5Q5bpxWxiG8+oTmXkEVxfZAkWB/RVxnMGT9r7OA6zmy0gV8 XY4zBYuqnYv4jhXj3FYeW0s5zUEqx8Hj71ymEd5p0Ssaai4di6BqWHcEEOi0hbN5 jJvs9TUC0O9Wz2jcxkquECXX+H6aneLThdITOHJ+U4LO53UXq4Ol6sbLWF0WEGNC vHQGS235NvFo04rvqOeZtZUQt/OffOxovfO7IBwcT+KLIu8WTbOqRI2hosD0r2sl 2XogCK9VU+yjZVj3m4Te86dcHjt2Swqi/z1pgLui0XJBxJ4G2ZIqNR4e2LKWScXl WvdIGoZtpsFgHlG/CcwDYLqg4tIHtRcyDhf5/XE2/Gar0q+o10k4NeRRQY891rVp SkqSB1Bum1k0UOsCJ/WSbItY3MVHDcQ0YHav7J9I2XUk9DDW6W8AlIW6kpbo5tDR vZOMBMwnDR1D8NKhJDW3Ac+gkbm6iXGUroeLQv0EfP6j9lnFDPd6tUvNg+mZzTXZ pIhIQs93+Ksuhow3//h4AuuerE1xqGY6zzKxujrvEJ+4jUvu/8a/FA20nMqITYsh rR8kLAbebAy4Lat+72n4 =P3wE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Xorg listening on the WAN?
FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE I think Xorg is listening on external addresses: $ sockstat -46 |grep Xorg root Xorg 1573 1 tcp6 *:6000*:* root Xorg 1573 3 tcp4 *:6000*:* $ netstat -a|grep x11 tcp4 0 0 *.x11 *.*LISTEN tcp6 0 0 *.x11 *.*LISTEN I'm new to FreeBSD, but if I interpret this correctly, x11 is listening for connections on port 6000 for connections from any IPv4 or IPv6 address. I don't think I'm in any immediate danger, as I am behind a router which will block incoming connection attempts, which (virtually) all seem to be on the http port (80) anyway. But it would give me a warm fuzzy feeling to stop x11 listening externally at all - I don't think I need it. How can I go about that please? In case it makes a difference, I am using XDM with standard LXDE. I do not use startx to initiate my sessions. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg listening on the WAN?
El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 06:58:25PM +, Walter Hurry escribió: $ netstat -a|grep x11 tcp4 0 0 *.x11 *.*LISTEN tcp6 0 0 *.x11 *.*LISTEN I'm new to FreeBSD, but if I interpret this correctly, x11 is listening for connections on port 6000 for connections from any IPv4 or IPv6 address. I don't think I'm in any immediate danger, as I am behind a router which will block incoming connection attempts, which (virtually) all seem to be on the http port (80) anyway. But it would give me a warm fuzzy feeling to stop x11 listening externally at all - I don't think I need it. How can I go about that please? $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg listening on the WAN?
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten Thanks for the pointer. I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I had already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that the answer is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where? As far as I can see, XDM invokes /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession, which seems to do little more than call $HOME/.xsession. This last runs /usr/ local/bin/startlxde, which in turn invokes /usr/local/bin/lxsession (a binary). I have looked at 'man lxsession' and found it of little help. So I'm rather lost. Can you amplify a little? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg listening on the WAN?
El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 07:51:02PM +, Walter Hurry escribió: On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten Thanks for the pointer. I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I had already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that the answer is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where? $ cat ~/.xserverrc exec X -nolisten tcp -retro HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:15:36AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I have 10 jpeg slides (screen shoots) and I want to print them to a Postscript printer (CUPS controlled), on each page 2 slides. I know I could make some presentation from them or wrap them into a HTML file, but I was thinking there must be some easy way with some tool from our ports. For converting to postscript: graphics/jpeg2ps-a4 or graphics/jpeg2ps-letter. Multiple page on one sheet with psnup from print/psutils-a4 or print/psutils-letter. If you are already using it, LaTeX would also do the trick quite nicely. Especially with the Beamer class for nicely styled and formatted slides. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beamer_%28LaTeX%29] Roland -- R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpUOpC4Btwca.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xorg listening on the WAN?
El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 09:58:37PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 07:51:02PM +, Walter Hurry escribió: On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten Thanks for the pointer. I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I had already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that the answer is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where? $ cat ~/.xserverrc exec X -nolisten tcp -retro sorry, it took me some time to remember where the pointer is: $ man xinit | col -b | fgrep xserverrc matthias -- Matthias Apitz e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
IPNAT seems to affect network performance? of jails on lo0 (10.0.0.0/24) - why?
On a KVM virtualized host, I run FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p3 and some qjails, 8.3-RELEASE. The jails are connected all via lo0 on 10.0.0.0. While by the large working as expected, I have noticed one pecularity I have failed to pinpoint: When launching processes with some network interaction, like sshing into one of the jails from the platform or launching emacs, the command spends ages ( ~(1-2) minutes) idling? (nothing happens) before becoming interactive. For reasons unreleated, I have enabled NAT with ipf for the jails on 10.0.0.0/24 (to the external re0 IF and some IP) and, out of the blue, logging into the jails or starting emacs became snappy again. Why? Why does ipnatting jails which should be connected via the same lo0 on 10.0.0.0 have any impact? Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining and it solved an issue which gave me kind of headaches, but I would like to understand. Thanks and cheers, -- Christopher TZ: GMT + 2h signature.asc Description: PGP signature
fetch error
I think I messed up the fetch setting in the envelope. Running 9.0 and get this console msg. env: usr/bin/fetch: No such file or directory When I enter env command to show all values I see nothing about fetch. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Broken link on your website
Hi! Wanted to touch base real quick and see if you have had already looked into my suggested resource and decide if it's a good replacement for the broken link on your page? Let me know what you think! Emma On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Emma Haze emmakh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi There, Sorry, I'm not sure whether I've already contacted you about this, so I apologize if I'm notifying you a second time. But I had noticed that you have a broken link on your page at cybershade.us/freebsd/www/securitylinking to http://www.shmoo.com/securecode/, so I wanted to inform you in case you are not aware of this. And if you are still updating your website, I've included a similar resource on Secure Programming that you can replace the broken link with if you are interested. Thanks for maintaining a great site! Link: http://www.onlineitdegree.net/resources/secure-programming/ Best Regards, Emma ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg listening on the WAN?
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:05:50 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 09:58:37PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 07:51:02PM +, Walter Hurry escribió: On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten Thanks for the pointer. I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I had already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that the answer is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where? $ cat ~/.xserverrc exec X -nolisten tcp -retro sorry, it took me some time to remember where the pointer is: $ man xinit | col -b | fgrep xserverrc Thanks again for your assistance. I didn't have a $HOME/.xserverrc, so I created one with your contents (permissions 744). It doesn't seem to have made any difference at all, though. After restart, I am still getting the same output from netstat and sockstat. So I'm still in the dark. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fetch error
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:16:47 -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: I think I messed up the fetch setting in the envelope. Running 9.0 and get this console msg. env: usr/bin/fetch: No such file or directory When I enter env command to show all values I see nothing about fetch. The env command is often used as a bridge to explicitely call commands where the actual location is not known or cannot be predicted, e. g. #!/usr/bin/env bash at the start of a bash script instead of #!/bin/bash Linuxism or when statically linked, as opposed to #!/usr/local/bin/bash default location on FreeBSD. In what operation do you receive the message? Maybe some typo in a shell script or Makefile? Examine closely: env: usr/bin/fetch: No such file or directory ^ The leading / is missing, because usr/bin/fetch would only exist when $CWD is /, otherwise not; /usr/bin/fetch should be correct. % which fetch /usr/bin/fetch ^ Here the correct path is provided. Maybe you ran into some script that calls fetch the bridge way improperly? Test: % env usr/bin/fetch env: usr/bin/fetch: No such file or directory And now properly: % env /usr/bin/fetch usage: fetch [-146AadFlMmnPpqRrsUv] It seems that env is used here to set environment and execute command; see man env for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.*
from Al Plant n...@hdk5.net: Aloha Woj, How did you get the drive to work with USB? By a hardware adapter? I read there is a USB to ide on the market. I remember specifically that Iomega produced USB Zip drives, though not when they first produced SCSI, ATAPI and parallel-port Zip drives. One problem with SCSI was so many different hardware interfaces in terms of number of holes/pins, meaning incompatibility. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it?
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Hey there, I'm presently in the process of trying to do a portupgrade from rt-3.8.8 to 3.8.13. By all estimations, this is a minor bump. Already, I've encountered several annoyances due to ABI changes, such as the libtool2.4 fun. With normal portupgrade, this forces you to go fix the dependent port. I don't know what you mean by that Finally, I just applied -r, which should update all dependent packages, but it seems to upgrade them unconditionally. That's because the revisions numbers will have been bumped, it's nothing to do with portupgrade. Ergo, I've since built a new version of perl, a new verion of python, rebuilt every perl module on the system, am presently rebuilding apache22, and I'm sure the system will turn around and require me to rebuild postgres real soon. You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says don't upgrade every single package I've got, Firstly it doesn't. Secondly no one is forcing you to do this, if you want to go through the ports and work out which need an update and which don't then portupgrade will let you do that. but if somewhere in the dependency chain I need a newer version of a thing, then do it. Am I just missing it in the manpages, or does such a thing really not exist? -Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
IPNAT seems to affect network performance? of jails on lo0 (10.0.0.0/24) - why?
Christopher J. Ruwe writes: On a KVM virtualized host, I run FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p3 and some qjails, 8.3-RELEASE. The jails are connected all via lo0 on 10.0.0.0. While by the large working as expected, I have noticed one pecularity I have failed to pinpoint: When launching processes with some network interaction, like sshing into one of the jails from the platform or launching emacs, the command spends ages ( ~(1-2) minutes) idling? (nothing happens) before becoming interactive. If the number is very close to 90 seconds, my first guess would be you have a DNS problem. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fetch error
Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:16:47 -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: I think I messed up the fetch setting in the envelope. Running 9.0 and get this console msg. env: usr/bin/fetch: No such file or directory When I enter env command to show all values I see nothing about fetch. The env command is often used as a bridge to explicitely call commands where the actual location is not known or cannot be predicted, e. g. #!/usr/bin/env bash at the start of a bash script instead of #!/bin/bash Linuxism or when statically linked, as opposed to #!/usr/local/bin/bash default location on FreeBSD. In what operation do you receive the message? Maybe some typo in a shell script or Makefile? Examine closely: env: usr/bin/fetch: No such file or directory ^ The leading / is missing, because usr/bin/fetch would only exist when $CWD is /, otherwise not; /usr/bin/fetch should be correct. % which fetch /usr/bin/fetch ^ Here the correct path is provided. Maybe you ran into some script that calls fetch the bridge way improperly? Test: % env usr/bin/fetch env: usr/bin/fetch: No such file or directory And now properly: % env /usr/bin/fetch usage: fetch [-146AadFlMmnPpqRrsUv] It seems that env is used here to set environment and execute command; see man env for details. I get that env error when running the new csup. A few months back I was fooling around with pf firewall and was testing different env settings to test passive mode with pf. I think i changed this environment value and made a typo leaving off the leading /. I no longer remember the environment name I used when I did the typo. Can you help me with what the name is to use? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8?
Turns out the gbic in the switch was bad...I didn't think there was a problem on the host, but you all still gave me some good info. I appreciate it! On 6/25/12, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Jack Vogel jfvo...@gmail.com wrote: Would probably be good to take care of the storm threshold if you haven't, set it to 0 and you disable the check, that's what we do internally. As for the queues and number of descriptors, that's kind of up to you, different work loads and environments work best with different setups. Hopefully, when you get rid of the rx ring setup failure you will get things working. Thanks, Jack. I did get rid of the rx ring failure. Link status still shows no carrier. I think everything looks right from the host's perspective. -- Take care Rick Miller -- Sent from my mobile device Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8?
Glad you figured it out. Cheers, Jack On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.comwrote: Turns out the gbic in the switch was bad...I didn't think there was a problem on the host, but you all still gave me some good info. I appreciate it! On 6/25/12, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Jack Vogel jfvo...@gmail.com wrote: Would probably be good to take care of the storm threshold if you haven't, set it to 0 and you disable the check, that's what we do internally. As for the queues and number of descriptors, that's kind of up to you, different work loads and environments work best with different setups. Hopefully, when you get rid of the rx ring setup failure you will get things working. Thanks, Jack. I did get rid of the rx ring failure. Link status still shows no carrier. I think everything looks right from the host's perspective. -- Take care Rick Miller -- Sent from my mobile device Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
DFS and Atheros
Hi All, I recently read Adrian Chadd's Blog and was delighted to see that FreeBSD has support for ETSI and FCC radar test patterns. My question is whether the DFS implementation in FreeBSD suffers from the same problem as madwifi-dfs suffered from which was a very high false-positive rate? This meant that the madwifi DFS was virtually unusable for practical purposes where high throughput was required... Thanks Brett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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SOLVED: Xorg listening on the WAN? (was Xorg listening on the WAN?)
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:33:15 +, Walter Hurry wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:05:50 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 09:58:37PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 07:51:02PM +, Walter Hurry escribió: On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten Thanks for the pointer. I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I had already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that the answer is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where? $ cat ~/.xserverrc exec X -nolisten tcp -retro sorry, it took me some time to remember where the pointer is: $ man xinit | col -b | fgrep xserverrc Thanks again for your assistance. I didn't have a $HOME/.xserverrc, so I created one with your contents (permissions 744). It doesn't seem to have made any difference at all, though. After restart, I am still getting the same output from netstat and sockstat. So I'm still in the dark. Of course! Looking back at the output from sockstat in my original post, X is running under root, so no amount of tinkering with files in $HOME is going to change anything. So I looked into XDM's configuration files in /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm, and found what change did the trick: $ cat /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers # # Xservers file, workstation prototype # # This file should contain an entry to start the server on the # local display; if you have more than one display (not screen), # you can add entries to the list (one per line). If you also # have some X terminals connected which do not support XDMCP, # you can add them here as well. Each X terminal line should # look like: # XTerminalName:0 foreign # :0 local /usr/local/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0 If there's batter way of doing this, please would someone let me know. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
files need
I am a newbie to linux and unix. I want to install freebsd 8.3 and want to know what files I need to download. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: files need
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:53:37 -0700, j wrote: I am a newbie to linux and unix. I want to install freebsd 8.3 and want to know what files I need to download. You can find all required information on FreeBSD's website, http://www.freebsd.org/ I recommend checking The FreeBSD Handbook regarding installation. What files to obtain is also covered in that section (because it depends on e. g. what architecture you want to use it, what kind of media you need and how you want to download it). For example, here you'll find the installation media: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/8.3/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg listening on the WAN?
Xorg -nolisten tcp to disable at all to disable wan only use firewall On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Walter Hurry wrote: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE I think Xorg is listening on external addresses: $ sockstat -46 |grep Xorg root Xorg 1573 1 tcp6 *:6000*:* root Xorg 1573 3 tcp4 *:6000*:* $ netstat -a|grep x11 tcp4 0 0 *.x11 *.*LISTEN tcp6 0 0 *.x11 *.*LISTEN I'm new to FreeBSD, but if I interpret this correctly, x11 is listening for connections on port 6000 for connections from any IPv4 or IPv6 address. I don't think I'm in any immediate danger, as I am behind a router which will block incoming connection attempts, which (virtually) all seem to be on the http port (80) anyway. But it would give me a warm fuzzy feeling to stop x11 listening externally at all - I don't think I need it. How can I go about that please? In case it makes a difference, I am using XDM with standard LXDE. I do not use startx to initiate my sessions. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg listening on the WAN?
I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I had already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that the answer is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where? As far as I can see, XDM invokes /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession, which at Xservers file seems to do little more than call $HOME/.xsession. This last runs /usr/ local/bin/startlxde, which in turn invokes /usr/local/bin/lxsession (a binary). I have looked at 'man lxsession' and found it of little help. So I'm rather lost. Can you amplify a little? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.*
How did you get the drive to work with USB? By a hardware adapter? I i have USB drives. not an adapter read there is a USB to ide on the market. I remember specifically that Iomega produced USB Zip drives, though not when they first produced SCSI, ATAPI and parallel-port Zip drives. One problem with SCSI was so many different hardware interfaces in terms of number of holes/pins, meaning incompatibility. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
