Re: IPNAT seems to affect network performance? of jails on lo0 (10.0.0.0/24) - why?

2012-07-04 Thread Kalle Møller
I know that ssh does a reverse dns lookup of the ip you connect from -
no matter if its local or not.

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Christopher J. Ruwe c...@cruwe.de wrote:
 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:23:56 -0400
 Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote:


 Christopher J. Ruwe writes:

   On a KVM virtualized host, I run FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p3 and some
   qjails, 8.3-RELEASE. The jails are connected all via lo0 on
   10.0.0.0.
 
   While by the large working as expected, I have noticed one
   pecularity I have failed to pinpoint: When launching processes
   with some network interaction, like sshing into one of the jails
   from the platform or launching emacs, the command spends ages (
   ~(1-2) minutes) idling?  (nothing happens) before becoming
   interactive.

   If the number is very close to 90 seconds, my first guess
 would be you have a DNS problem.


   Robert Huff

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 Thanks for the hint. It was DNS ... I have copied a resolv.conf into the
 jails for future use, but did not enable NAT from the start.

 The issue disappeared when I commented out the nameserver entries and
 switched NAT off again, i.e., I could login using ssh in a matter of
 seconds, not minutes.

 Now to the followup: Why does ssh and emacs! require DNS for entirely local
 connections or just to be started?

 Anyway, thanks for that hint, cheers,
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Re: Understanding XDM

2012-07-04 Thread sw2wolf
I am using slim to login which can choose Window Manager by pressing F1 key.
Can XDM choose Window Manager when loginning ?

Reagrds!

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Re: Understanding XDM

2012-07-04 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 23:27:21 -0700 (PDT), sw2wolf wrote:
 I am using slim to login which can choose Window Manager by pressing F1 key.
 Can XDM choose Window Manager when loginning ?

No, xdm cannot do this. But as far as I remember, wdm can -- it has
some look  feel of the original CDE display manager and it designed
to work well with WindowMaker, but it's a very nice replacement for
xdm if you need that specific functionality. It's quite lightweight
(compared to gdm or kdm) and easily configurable.


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Re: Networking IP Address Issues : NetBSD on Xen VM

2012-07-04 Thread Subhro Sankha Kar


On 04-Jul-2012, at 10:22 AM, dhaneshk k wrote:

 
 List,
 
 Please ignore my previous mail  with the same subject line because there was 
 a terrible formatting  mistake.
 Please see the attached pdf  which briefs the problem in assigning the IP 
 address to the netbsd virtual machine.
 The Xen VM is running on Debian/ GNU Linux.

I am assuming you are trying to get a bridge setup working. What is the bridge 
configuration in dom0?

On a separate note, your email still is not proper. Learn to put contents in an 
email rather describing your problem in a PDF.

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 From: sub...@80386.org
 Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 00:06:56 +0530
 To: dhanes...@hotmail.com
 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Networking IP Address Issues : NetBSD on Xen VM
 
 
 On 03-Jul-2012, at 12:34 PM, dhaneshk k wrote:
 
 
 The Same problems
 discussed here were faced.
 
 Any hints to solve these issues much appreciated.
 
 No hints till you learn how to format your email properly, a basic 
 requirement when posting to a mailing list.
 
 
 Thank you
 
 You are welcome.
 
 Subhro
 
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Re: Tweetless

2012-07-04 Thread Subhro Sankha Kar
On 04-Jul-2012, at 1:59 AM, Lars Eighner wrote:

 On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 On 03-Jul-2012, at 9:14 PM, Tobias Rehbein wrote:
 
 Am Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 01:04:07AM -0500 schrieb Lars Eighner:
 
 Call me crazy, but it seems that since the perl bump (5.12 - 
 threaded-5.16)
 when firefox (13.0.1,1) got rebuilt, it seems twitter pages do not fully
 load, give me the slow loading banner, and the page (not browser or X)
 freezes, but no such problems were evident before, and twitter seems
 entirely normal in Opera 12.00.
 
 
 Disabling SPDY in about:config (a solution proposed on the net) didn't fix
 this issue.
 
 
 
 Another thing that doesn't work is rebuilding firefox from the ground up
 with portupgrade -fR firefox.

Where does it burp? Can you post, say, the last 10-15 lines of the compile?


 
 Can you post the contents of about:config and also try to launch FF from
 command line and see if there is anything interesting reported back? Also, I 
 hope you do not have any funky CFLAGS set in your make.conf?
 
 Of course firefox will not run from the command line (Error: no display
 specified), but there are no messages as firefox fails repeated to load
 twitter pages fully when firefox is launched in an xterm.

Sorry for the ambiguity, I indeed meant to launch FF from xterm (or some 
equivalent Terminal Emulator in X) and report back the error. But since you say 
there is no problem with that, guess things should be good.

 
 make.conf:
 
 QT4_OPTIONS=  CUPS
 WITH_GCC = yes
 # added by use.perl 2012-07-03 02:17:12
 PERL_VERSION=5.16.0

This looks pretty generic, so nothing to complain about.

 
 
 I hate GUIs, so my mouse-fu skills are not good enough to copy about.config,
 but here is a save as

snip

Okay, try this out. Go to preferences and disable hardware acceleration. Also 
go to about:config and search for gfx. Set the property 
gfx.direct2d.disabled to true. Bounce the browser and go to about:support. 
At the bottom of the page, GPU Accelerated Windows should read 0/1. See if 
that makes a difference.

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Re: Jailed slapd process not visible with ps within a jail

2012-07-04 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 04/07/2012 06:20, Matthias Petermann wrote:
 When I now do ps aux within the Jail, it doesn't show me the slapd
 process but doing the same in the Host system, I can see it.
 
[matthias@netti2 /usr/home/matthias]$ ps ax|grep slap
 6255  ??  IsJ0:00,06 /usr/local/libexec/slapd -h 
 ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fop
 
 What I am doing wrong? Did I miss some important fact?

What does

# ps -uxp 6255

show, from within the jail?  (if you've restarted slapd since,
substitute the current PID, obviously.)

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Re: Networking IP Address Issues : NetBSD on Xen VM

2012-07-04 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 04/07/2012 05:52, dhaneshk k wrote:
 Please ignore my previous mail  with the same subject line because there was 
 a terrible formatting  mistake.
 Please see the attached pdf  which briefs the problem in assigning the IP 
 address to the netbsd virtual machine.
 The Xen VM is running on Debian/ GNU Linux.
 
 Please find the attached document for detailed description.
 
 Any hints much appreciated.

Why do you think asking about NetBSD on a FreeBSD list is going to give
you better reesults than asking about NetBSD on a NetBSD list?  Or even
on a Xen list?

Out of all the information in your message, you describe the actual
issues pretty baldly.

-- unable to set the IP number in a Xen instance

   * How exactly did you try to set the IP Address manually?
   * What happened?

Showing ifconfig(8) output for the interface concerned would be good.

-- avoiding the necessity for human interaction when booting on Amazon EC2

Your description looks as if the netbsd image is stopping at single user
mode, which it will do if there are certain problems.  A typical reason
for this would be the need to run fsck to fix filesystem problems, but
there are many other possible causes.  Look at the console output just
before it prompts you for which shell to run to work out what the actual
problem is.

Once you've got the system booting up to multi-user correctly, the
normal init scripts should take care of running dhclient etc. for you,
given that you have configured them properly.

Cheers,

Matthew

PS.  FreeBSD runs well as a Xen domU (ie guest) instance, both on
generic Xen and on Amazon EC2.  See http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen
FreeBSD doesn't have Xen dom0 (ie host) support yet.

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Re: Understanding XDM

2012-07-04 Thread uki
2012/7/4 Polytropon free...@edvax.de:
 On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 23:27:21 -0700 (PDT), sw2wolf wrote:
 I am using slim to login which can choose Window Manager by pressing F1 key.
 Can XDM choose Window Manager when loginning ?

 No, xdm cannot do this. But as far as I remember, wdm can -- it has
 some look  feel of the original CDE display manager and it designed
 to work well with WindowMaker, but it's a very nice replacement for
 xdm if you need that specific functionality. It's quite lightweight
 (compared to gdm or kdm) and easily configurable.

xdm is very simple, it just logs you in and runs a shell script.
with default settings the shell script just executes your ~/.xinitrc

here is an example how to add shutdown button to xdm
http://neilt.org/computing/xdmshutdownbutton.php
you can use it as an example to hack your own 'change wm' feature, or
just use some xdm replacement that has that.

Cheers,
Łukasz Gruner
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Re: WITHOUT_MODULES in /etc/make.conf doesn't work

2012-07-04 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Polytropon free...@edvax.de:

 Yes, /etc/src.conf uses WITHOUT_* on a per-module basis, so you need
 to explicitely name the modules not to build.

 But you're right, there's only WITHOUT_USB (for not building the
 USB-related parts), so going with kernel configuration would be
 a good point to start -- the more precise you can define your
 test setting and its variables, the better you can diagnose the
 problem.

 In /etc/make.conf, you could use MODULES_OVERRIDE to define the
 set of modules you want (because only _those_ will then be
 build) and keeping their functionality out of the kernel. In
 this case, you have control over your test setting using the
 modules.

 The same files offers NO_MODULES=yes to avoid building modules
 at all (use custom kernel instead).

 If you decide to use WITHOUT_MODULES, you can define the set of
 modules you want to avoid building, everything else will be
 built.



  Would
  WITHOUT_MODULES= ulpt
  work better in /etc/src.conf than in /etc/make.conf ?

 No, /etc/src.conf as (according to its manpage) a defined set of
 variables that will be considered when building (or _not_ building)
 certain modules.


  Besides the toxic (?) ulpt.ko, there are a lot of modules that
  would never be used on my hardware, and other modules that could
  be built in the kernel as non-modules (such as support for msdosfs
  and ext2fs, which I don't want to be without).

 That's a good setting for using a custom kernel and not even
 building the modules for the non-used functionalities. :-)

I suppose modules save RAM by being loaded only when needed, but see the virtue 
of NO_MODULES=yes or MODULES_OVERRIDE in combination with putting everything 
needed in kernel config.

Building WITHOUT_USB would cause a severe loss of functionality, USB sticks, 
USB hard drives, even USB mice and keyboards wouldn't work.

from Jakub Lach jakub_l...@mailplus.pl:

 Try with:

 WITHOUT_MODULES= usb/ulpt

I'll have to try that on my build/update of FreeBSD 9.0_STABLE i386 on USB 
stick.  Thanks for the hint!

This would be from the USB stick but with source base directory 
/STABLE1/usr/src (on hard drive).

I had already built FreeBSD 9.0_STABLE i386 on the USB stick from FreeBSD 
9.0_STABLE amd64, and was successful booting that USB stick.

Sort of a dirty trick that you have to use usb/ulpt as opposed to ulpt, and a 
deficiency in the documentation.

Now is there any way to prevent ulpt.ko from loading when a USB printer is 
connected?

Tom
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Re: Understanding XDM

2012-07-04 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 10:40:05 +0200, uki wrote:
 2012/7/4 Polytropon free...@edvax.de:
  On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 23:27:21 -0700 (PDT), sw2wolf wrote:
  I am using slim to login which can choose Window Manager by pressing F1 
  key.
  Can XDM choose Window Manager when loginning ?
 
  No, xdm cannot do this. But as far as I remember, wdm can -- it has
  some look  feel of the original CDE display manager and it designed
  to work well with WindowMaker, but it's a very nice replacement for
  xdm if you need that specific functionality. It's quite lightweight
  (compared to gdm or kdm) and easily configurable.
 
 xdm is very simple, it just logs you in and runs a shell script.
 with default settings the shell script just executes your ~/.xinitrc

I always thouzght startx (so xinit) executes ~/.xinitrc,
and xdm executes ~/.xession. In fact, I have a cascade
for this, so I can use whatever I want.

This is .xsession:

#!/bin/csh
source ~/.cshrc
exec ~/.xinitrc

It does simply obtain the settings for the dialog shell
(in this case, the C shell, the system's default dialog
shell) and continues executing as .xinitrc, just as if
it had been called vial startx (so xinit command).

And .xinitrc contains the usual stuff, ending in calling
the window manager desired:

#!/bin/sh
[ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ]  xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc
# ... other stuff ...
xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a
xset b 100 1000 15 
xset r rate 250 30 
xset s off 
xset -dpms 
exec wmaker

This of course does not taking into account _changing_ the window
manager while logging in!



 here is an example how to add shutdown button to xdm
 http://neilt.org/computing/xdmshutdownbutton.php
 you can use it as an example to hack your own 'change wm' feature, or
 just use some xdm replacement that has that.

Interesting extension, thanks!



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Re: WITHOUT_MODULES in /etc/make.conf doesn't work

2012-07-04 Thread Jakub Lach
 Sort of a dirty trick that you have to use usb/ulpt as 
 opposed to ulpt, and a deficiency in the documentation.

No, I'm just borderline sure that WITHOUT_MODULES works
the same way as MODULES_OVERRIDE, that is it looks in
top directory in /usr/src/sys/modules/ and ulpt is in
/usr/src/sys/modules/usb/ulpt

Speaking of RAM savings, things you would always load 
should be compiled in kernel, modules per design take
more RAM than compiled in stuff.

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how to update the revision information

2012-07-04 Thread Bill Yuan
Hi All,

The blow information can be found when we boot up the system, also can use
command uname -v

my question is how can I change this,

and I cannot rebuild it ,because on my freebsd, I dont have src anymore .





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Re: Jailed slapd process not visible with ps within a jail

2012-07-04 Thread Matthias Petermann
Hi Matthew,

thanks for your response.  

On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 08:05:00 +0100
Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote:
 What does
 
 # ps -uxp 6255
 
 show, from within the jail?  (if you've restarted slapd since,
 substitute the current PID, obviously.)

This is funny, I restarted the whole system since my last mail and now I cannot 
reproduce the issue. The process shows up in both the host and the jail.

When I had the issue I also tried the ps aux without grep but did not see the 
process too. Actually the jail is very thin, so this could be overseen. 
Following man(1) the -p switch does apply a filter by process id, I guess the 
process should have been visible also without?

Kind regards,
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Re: Tweetless

2012-07-04 Thread Lars Eighner

On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote:


On 04-Jul-2012, at 1:59 AM, Lars Eighner wrote:


On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote:


Hello,

On 03-Jul-2012, at 9:14 PM, Tobias Rehbein wrote:


Am Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 01:04:07AM -0500 schrieb Lars Eighner:


Call me crazy, but it seems that since the perl bump (5.12 - threaded-5.16)
when firefox (13.0.1,1) got rebuilt, it seems twitter pages do not fully
load, give me the slow loading banner, and the page (not browser or X)
freezes, but no such problems were evident before, and twitter seems
entirely normal in Opera 12.00.




Disabling SPDY in about:config (a solution proposed on the net) didn't fix
this issue.





Another thing that doesn't work is rebuilding firefox from the ground up
with portupgrade -fR firefox.


Where does it burp? Can you post, say, the last 10-15 lines of the compile?


Oh, no, the rebuilds go perfectly.  What I meant was, it does not work to
solve the problem.




Can you post the contents of about:config and also try to launch FF from
command line and see if there is anything interesting reported back? Also, I 
hope you do not have any funky CFLAGS set in your make.conf?


Of course firefox will not run from the command line (Error: no display
specified), but there are no messages as firefox fails repeated to load
twitter pages fully when firefox is launched in an xterm.


Sorry for the ambiguity, I indeed meant to launch FF from xterm (or some 
equivalent Terminal Emulator in X) and report back the error. But since you say 
there is no problem with that, guess things should be good.



make.conf:

QT4_OPTIONS=CUPS
WITH_GCC = yes
# added by use.perl 2012-07-03 02:17:12
PERL_VERSION=5.16.0


This looks pretty generic, so nothing to complain about.




I hate GUIs, so my mouse-fu skills are not good enough to copy about.config,
but here is a save as


snip

Okay, try this out. Go to preferences and disable hardware acceleration.
Also go to about:config and search for gfx.  Set the property
gfx.direct2d.disabled to true.  Bounce the browser and go to
about:support.  At the bottom of the page, GPU Accelerated Windows
should read 0/1.  See if that makes a difference.



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FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?

2012-07-04 Thread IamTrying
http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core
developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of
FreeBSD and Google?

FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences? Is this Hurd now made for Google by
FreeBSD?




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Re: how to update the revision information

2012-07-04 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 04/07/2012 12:13, Bill Yuan wrote:
 The blow information can be found when we boot up the system, also can use
 command uname -v

Unfortunately the mailing list software has stripped your attachment.
For this sort of thing, its good to put your image up on a pastebin site
and include the link in your e-mail.

 my question is how can I change this,
 
 and I cannot rebuild it ,because on my freebsd, I dont have src anymore .

Well, the info that uname(1) prints out is generated from the source
code at compile time.  Recompiling the kernel, or updating the kernel
via eg. freebsd-update(8) are the only ways to change it.

If you're asking about the perennial I just security-patched my system
with freebsd-update, but uname still shows the old patch-level thing,
then yeah.  Unless freebsd-update supplies you with a whole new kernel
image, which only happens when a security bug involves the kernel, then
the uname output will not be changed.  It's a flaw, but any solutions
involving being able to tweak uname settings without changing kernels
open up a whole can of security worms[*] which are, on the whole, worse
than living with some mildly outdated data.

Cheers,

Matthew


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Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?

2012-07-04 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 04/07/2012 13:47, IamTrying wrote:
 http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core
 developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of
 FreeBSD and Google?

Yes, there are some FreeBSD developers who have gone to work for Google
and have subsequently not been particularly active in the FreeBSD
project.  Same goes for Apple -- case in point being Jordan Hubbard, one
time pretty much the leader of the FreeBSD project, now some incredibly
important bod within Apple.

It doesn't always happen that way round.  Ben Laurie, for instance, had
been working for Google for many years before becoming a FreeBSD
committer.  (Of course, his involvement with Apache and OpenSSL long
pre-dated his joining Google.)

Developers come and go, and always have done.  It's the same for any
reasonably long-lived open source project.  Nothing new and nothing to
be alarmed at.

 FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences? Is this Hurd now made for Google by
 FreeBSD?

FreeBSD and Hurd are two completely different operating systems.  As far
as I know, Google has no particular interest in either of them, although
it does support such projects in general through things like Summer of
Code and sponsoring various collaborations.  See for instance
https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/capsicum/ for a project with
a great deal of involvement by both Google and FreeBSD developers.

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Re: Tweetless

2012-07-04 Thread Lars Eighner

On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote:


On 04-Jul-2012, at 1:59 AM, Lars Eighner wrote:


On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote:


Hello,

On 03-Jul-2012, at 9:14 PM, Tobias Rehbein wrote:


Am Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 01:04:07AM -0500 schrieb Lars Eighner:


Call me crazy, but it seems that since the perl bump (5.12 - threaded-5.16)
when firefox (13.0.1,1) got rebuilt, it seems twitter pages do not fully
load, give me the slow loading banner, and the page (not browser or X)
freezes, but no such problems were evident before, and twitter seems
entirely normal in Opera 12.00.




Disabling SPDY in about:config (a solution proposed on the net) didn't fix
this issue.



Okay, try this out. Go to preferences and disable hardware acceleration.


Could not find this.



Also go to about:config and search for gfx.  Set the property
gfx.direct2d.disabled to true.


Did not exist, so I edited prefs.js directly.



Bounce the browser and go to
about:support.  At the bottom of the page, GPU Accelerated Windows
should read 0/1.  See if that makes a difference.


Adapter Description
   GLXtest process failed (exited with status 1): GLX version older /
than the required 1.3

WebGL Renderer:
   Blocked for your graphics card because of unresolved driver issues.

GPU Accelerated Windows: 0. Blocked for your graphics driver version. /
   Try updating your graphics driver to version /
   Anything with EXT_texture_from_pixmap support or newer.


The only drivers that work with this machine (Intel G33) are intel and vesa.
The intel driver does occasionally freeze X entirely requiring a boot, but
this is not what happens when trying to load twitter pages.

Anyway, above did not help with problem at hand.


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how to correctly distinguish broadcast udp packets vs unicast (socket, pcap or bpf)?

2012-07-04 Thread Budnev Vladimir

Good day to all.

What is the correct way to distinguish udp packets that obtained by 
application and were send on 255.255.255.255 ip addr from those that 
were send to unicast ip?


Seems it is impossible with read/recvfrom so we'v made that with 
libpcap. It coul be done with directly bpf api without pcap wrapper but 
i'm not sure about how big pcap overhead is.


The questions is if we have about 1Gb incoming traffic and using pcap 
filter for specific port how big is impact of using pcap in such 
situation? Is it possbile to estimate? Target traffic is about 1Mbit and 
while testing CPU is about 1-2% but i'm not sure about all the conditions.


recfrom recieves all the data without loss in such condition, is it 
possible that pcap because of its filtering nature(i dont know in 
details how bpf is realized deep in kernel:( ) will add big overhead 
while listening?



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Re: how to correctly distinguish broadcast udp packets vs unicast (socket, pcap or bpf)?

2012-07-04 Thread Nikolay Denev

On Jul 4, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Budnev Vladimir wrote:

 Good day to all.
 
 What is the correct way to distinguish udp packets that obtained by 
 application and were send on 255.255.255.255 ip addr from those that were 
 send to unicast ip?
 
 Seems it is impossible with read/recvfrom so we'v made that with libpcap. It 
 coul be done with directly bpf api without pcap wrapper but i'm not sure 
 about how big pcap overhead is.
 
 The questions is if we have about 1Gb incoming traffic and using pcap filter 
 for specific port how big is impact of using pcap in such situation? Is it 
 possbile to estimate? Target traffic is about 1Mbit and while testing CPU is 
 about 1-2% but i'm not sure about all the conditions.
 
 recfrom recieves all the data without loss in such condition, is it possible 
 that pcap because of its filtering nature(i dont know in details how bpf is 
 realized deep in kernel:( ) will add big overhead while listening?
 
 
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If I'm understanding your question correctly you can lookup the ip(4) manual 
page :

 If the IP_RECVDSTADDR option is enabled on a SOCK_DGRAM socket, the 
recvmsg call will return the destination IP address for a UDP datagram.  The 
msg_control field in the msghdr structure points to a buffer
 that contains a cmsghdr structure followed by the IP address.  The cmsghdr 
fields have the following values:

You can use this in you application and get the destination address of the 
packets be it unicast IP or the broadcast 
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Re: how to correctly distinguish broadcast udp packets vs unicast (socket, pcap or bpf)?

2012-07-04 Thread Budnev Vladimir

07/04/12 19:37, Nikolay Denev пишет:

On Jul 4, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Budnev Vladimir wrote:


Good day to all.

What is the correct way to distinguish udp packets that obtained by application 
and were send on 255.255.255.255 ip addr from those that were send to unicast 
ip?

Seems it is impossible with read/recvfrom so we'v made that with libpcap. It 
coul be done with directly bpf api without pcap wrapper but i'm not sure about 
how big pcap overhead is.

The questions is if we have about 1Gb incoming traffic and using pcap filter 
for specific port how big is impact of using pcap in such situation? Is it 
possbile to estimate? Target traffic is about 1Mbit and while testing CPU is 
about 1-2% but i'm not sure about all the conditions.

recfrom recieves all the data without loss in such condition, is it possible 
that pcap because of its filtering nature(i dont know in details how bpf is 
realized deep in kernel:( ) will add big overhead while listening?


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If I'm understanding your question correctly you can lookup the ip(4) manual 
page :

  If the IP_RECVDSTADDR option is enabled on a SOCK_DGRAM socket, the 
recvmsg call will return the destination IP address for a UDP datagram.  The 
msg_control field in the msghdr structure points to a buffer
  that contains a cmsghdr structure followed by the IP address.  The 
cmsghdr fields have the following values:

You can use this in you application and get the destination address of the 
packets be it unicast IP or the broadcast address.
Tnx for fast response! Hm... seems if it will work it will help. I'll 
test that as soon as possbile!



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Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?

2012-07-04 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi,
Reference:
 From: IamTrying iamtrying.t...@gmail.com 
 Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 05:47:06 -0700 (PDT) 
 Message-id:   1341406026965-5724143.p...@n5.nabble.com 

IamTrying wrote:
 http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core
 developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of
 FreeBSD and Google?
 
 FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences? Is this Hurd now made for Google by
 FreeBSD?

Additional to all the useful things Matthew wrote, I'd add:

IamTrying could/should have read such Basic stuff on many webs/
search engines, inc Wikipedia. no need to ask here: More efficient
for community if IamTrying read there.  Less writing work, per
more readers,  more carefully researched  cross checked  linked
facts etc.

My memory:
  Hurd for many years was GNU/FSF's dream / vapourware OS, a few bits
  but not a complete OS (kernel, compiler, cd /usr/src ; make world
  ) most of us ignored it  got on with BSD lcensed BSD code.  Later
  Linux arrived, maybe a decade later Hurd finaly arrived as an OS
  no longer bits; most of us in BSD continued to ignore it.  It's
  FSF, we in BSD prefer BSD licenced stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Hurd
GNU General Public License

Minix3 exists too. Yup Minix isn't dead
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix3

Mach exists or use to, various  OSs if you're browsing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system
Includes ref. to google chrome.
Have fun reading :-)

Cheers,
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adding new cipher support to kernel

2012-07-04 Thread Dylan Castine
Hi,

My name is Dylan,

I want to add support for the AES-GCM cipher to the kernel.
I am currently using strongswan for an IPsec build and need ESP to use the
AES-GCM algorithm.
Any info is appreciated,

Thanks for your time,

Dylan
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Re: Understanding XDM

2012-07-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar

and xdm executes ~/.xession. In fact, I have a cascade


xdm file specified in xdm-config

default file Xsession try running ~/.xsession otherwise run other 
defaults.


nothing is hardwired.


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Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?

2012-07-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar
the major difference between Hurd and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD actually 
work.




http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core
developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of
FreeBSD and Google?


single man from FreeBSD is listed and other from FreeBSD docs.



FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences? Is this Hurd now made for Google by
FreeBSD?




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Re: adding new cipher support to kernel

2012-07-04 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 04/07/2012 19:22, Dylan Castine wrote:
 I want to add support for the AES-GCM cipher to the kernel.
 I am currently using strongswan for an IPsec build and need ESP to use the
 AES-GCM algorithm.
 Any info is appreciated,

Hi, Dylan,

I suggest you enquire via the freebsd-hackers@ list, as that will
attract the attention of a lot more of the right sort of kernel developers.

The project is always very happy to receive patches, but it does have an
unfortunate tendency not to notice stuff that's just submitted via
send-pr(1).  The trick is to get in contact with developers having an
interest in that area and draw their attention to your PRs.  Don't be
downhearted if they critique your contributions quite stringently: that
means they see potential in them.

Cheers,

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Re: adding new cipher support to kernel

2012-07-04 Thread Riaan Kruger
Soory the previous email had the wrong destinaton.

A patch has been submitted to one of the commiters. It is in the process of
being commited/approved/looked at (I not sure what to call it.)

Riaan
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Re: video buffer location

2012-07-04 Thread Harald Weis
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 05:46:00PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

  I would recommend you to remove flash at all. It actually improves web 
  browsing experience, removing problems with constant CPU load because you 
  have few tabs with flash crap running, and will teach you good habit of 
  actually OWN all  interesting things ON YOUR DISK, not on the internet
  that happens to disappear in a short time.

Great idea. Thank you. The difference is really tremendous. I've added
though a tiny script to switch flash off and on with nspluginwrapper.
Could be useful on some occasion.
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Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?

2012-07-04 Thread Carsten Mattner
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
 the major difference between Hurd and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD actually work.


 http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD
 core
 developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of
 FreeBSD and Google?

 single man from FreeBSD is listed and other from FreeBSD docs.

Can someone post the content of that link.
I only see a stack of This page was viewed  but no actual content.
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Re: video buffer location

2012-07-04 Thread RW
On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 22:34:21 +0200
Harald Weis wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 05:46:00PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 
   I would recommend you to remove flash at all. It actually improves
   web browsing experience, removing problems with constant CPU load
   because you have few tabs with flash crap running, and will teach
   you good habit of actually OWN all  interesting things ON YOUR
   DISK, not on the internet that happens to disappear in a short
   time.
 
 Great idea. Thank you. The difference is really tremendous. I've added
 though a tiny script to switch flash off and on with nspluginwrapper.
 Could be useful on some occasion.

Actually Opera already has a setting: Enable plug-ins only on
demand (under preferences-advanced-content). It disables all
plugins by default and you can click on an individual placeholder to
enable a plug-in for a specific object, so you can watch a flash
movie or turn on a flash navigation menu without having to turn-on any
flash adverts on the same page.  




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Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?

2012-07-04 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Carsten Mattner wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar
 woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
  the major difference between Hurd and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD actually work.
 
 
  http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD
  core
  developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of
  FreeBSD and Google?
 
  single man from FreeBSD is listed and other from FreeBSD docs.
 
 Can someone post the content of that link.
 I only see a stack of This page was viewed  but no actual content.

Thats what shows with lynx

Firefox shows some boring page beginnning
-
The tables below, list some of Google's eclectic mix of open source luminaries 
grouped by project.

No doubt I've forgotten some, so don't hesitate to contact me with 
corrections/additions.

Note also this list of Google's open source projects.

Python


Guido Van Rossum


Python creator

Alex Martelli


Python Cookbook, ...

Brett Cannon


Python

Jeremy Hylton


Zope

I'll skip the rest, Yawn.


Firefox also runs some script.
Doing a page save  tar cf ends with a tar image containing 

datetime|datetime-local|email|hidden|month|number|password|range|search|tel|te

I've long been thinking I / one should run firefox inside a chroot or jail
to it can't harvest ?

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How can i decrease memory occupied by xorg ?

2012-07-04 Thread sw2wolf
An old i386 box has only 512M RAM.

PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE   C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
 ...
 1121 sw2wolf   8  200   299M   128M uwait   1   5:22  0.59% opera
 1083 root  1  210 99444K 11544K select  0   1:28  0.00% Xorg
 1096 sw2wolf   1  200 25136K  2412K select  0   0:00  0.00% xterm
 1101 sw2wolf   1  200 10948K  1576K pause   1   0:00  0.00% csh
 1081 root  1  200 19448K  1564K wait0   0:00  0.00% slim
 1124 sw2wolf   1  200 34376K  1496K select  1   0:00  0.00%
gam_server
 1086 sw2wolf   1  200 10992K  1136K select  1   0:00  0.00% dwm
 1100 sw2wolf   1  200 10060K  1080K select  0   0:01  0.00% tmux
  722 root  1  200  9612K   732K select  1   0:00  0.00% syslogd
 1098 sw2wolf   1  520 10060K   672K select  0   0:00  0.00% tmux
  965 root  1  200  9716K   660K select  0   0:05  0.00% moused
  ...

Of course, opera is a big customer of RAM which i cannot decrease its memory
usage. then can i descrease the xorg's resident memory ?

 Sincerely!

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Re: how to update the revision information

2012-07-04 Thread Bill Yuan
Thanks very much,

I found the source code of the loader,  on the newvers.sh it will generate
a vers.c   I changed this script, and manually created this vers.c file. it
will be inlcude in all other sources. and it contains all system version.
 that's my way to change it .  thanks,



On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On 04/07/2012 12:13, Bill Yuan wrote:
  The blow information can be found when we boot up the system, also can
 use
  command uname -v

 Unfortunately the mailing list software has stripped your attachment.
 For this sort of thing, its good to put your image up on a pastebin site
 and include the link in your e-mail.

  my question is how can I change this,
 
  and I cannot rebuild it ,because on my freebsd, I dont have src anymore .

 Well, the info that uname(1) prints out is generated from the source
 code at compile time.  Recompiling the kernel, or updating the kernel
 via eg. freebsd-update(8) are the only ways to change it.

 If you're asking about the perennial I just security-patched my system
 with freebsd-update, but uname still shows the old patch-level thing,
 then yeah.  Unless freebsd-update supplies you with a whole new kernel
 image, which only happens when a security bug involves the kernel, then
 the uname output will not be changed.  It's a flaw, but any solutions
 involving being able to tweak uname settings without changing kernels
 open up a whole can of security worms[*] which are, on the whole, worse
 than living with some mildly outdated data.

 Cheers,

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How can i decrease memory occupied by xorg ?

2012-07-04 Thread J B
It is in ports:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xrestop
jb
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Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?

2012-07-04 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 IamTrying == IamTrying  iamtrying.t...@gmail.com writes:

IamTrying http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html

Since that's a useless URL... do you have other links to the same information?

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Re: Tweetless

2012-07-04 Thread Subhro Sankha Kar


On 04-Jul-2012, at 7:44 PM, Lars Eighner wrote:

 On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote:
 
 On 04-Jul-2012, at 1:59 AM, Lars Eighner wrote:
 
 On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 On 03-Jul-2012, at 9:14 PM, Tobias Rehbein wrote:
 
 Am Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 01:04:07AM -0500 schrieb Lars Eighner:
 
 Call me crazy, but it seems that since the perl bump (5.12 - 
 threaded-5.16)
 when firefox (13.0.1,1) got rebuilt, it seems twitter pages do not fully
 load, give me the slow loading banner, and the page (not browser or X)
 freezes, but no such problems were evident before, and twitter seems
 entirely normal in Opera 12.00.
 
 
 Disabling SPDY in about:config (a solution proposed on the net) didn't fix
 this issue.
 
 

Let us for a minute assume that there is nothing wrong with FF. How about 
installing Firebug and see in the Net tab that what precisely is happening 
when you load the Twitter main page? Is it waiting for apparently no reason at 
a particular place? Also, not strictly required, but can you also pass the 
traffic through something like LiveHTTPHeaders and post a traffic dump? As a 
third step, run a pcap session and see what is happening on the wire/air ?


 
 Adapter Description
   GLXtest process failed (exited with status 1): GLX version older /
 than the required 1.3
 
 WebGL Renderer:
   Blocked for your graphics card because of unresolved driver issues.
 
 GPU Accelerated Windows: 0. Blocked for your graphics driver version. /
   Try updating your graphics driver to version /
   Anything with EXT_texture_from_pixmap support or newer.

This probably means that none of the advanced rendering stuff work on your X 
setup.

 
 The only drivers that work with this machine (Intel G33) are intel and vesa.
 The intel driver does occasionally freeze X entirely requiring a boot, but
 this is not what happens when trying to load twitter pages.

This is a completely distinct problem but probably it would be interesting to 
try and figure out why Graphics Acceleration is not working. I have very 
limited experience with Intel Graphics chipsets. In the i915 days, there used 
to be something called AIGLX which required some explicit configuration in 
xorg.conf. Could you check on that?

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