Re: Jails on FreeBSD 9.0

2012-07-17 Thread Kalle Møller
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra h.sku...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:56 AM, joris dedieu joris.ded...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/7/12 Herbert J. Skuhra h.sku...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra h.sku...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi,

 although I've followed the instructions in jail(8) and jail.conf(5) I
 cannot manage to setup jails on FreeBSD 9.0 STABLE (r238334).

 The symptons:

 * ssh'ing to jail works, but it takes about 20 seconds until password
   prompt appears

 Does it still the same with UseDNS=no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?

 No, I can login instantly.

 * netstat -r in the jail takes about 150 seconds to finish

 Does netstat -rn does the same ?

 No, the output appears immediately.

 * connections to the internet time out; with tcpdump I see that
   packets leave and enter the public interface on the host, but never
   reach the jail

 I use lo1 interface and ip address 192.168.1.1/24 for the jail. Public
 interface is fxp0 with both an IPv4 and an IPv6 address assigned.
 Of course, nat is enable via pf on the public interface.

 Can you post your PF configuration ?

 After switching to ipfw/natd networking in the jail works.
 Could this be a bug?

 I think you had an issue with firewall that block name resolution and
 makes everything goes slow. At least you need one single line on your
 pf.conf :

 nat on $public_interface form $jail_ip to any - ($public_interface)

 Even when loading only the nat rule it doesn't work:

 nat on fxp0 from  192.168.1.0/24 to any - $ext_addr

 Thanks.
 Herbert
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As Mark Felder wrote

You don't have anything in /etc/resolv.conf, in the jail do you? :-)

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How to donate code

2012-07-17 Thread Виталий Туровец
Hello, colleagues!
How would one propose some code to current branch?
I've made a little change to ifconfig ( a switch to display IPv4
network masks in CIDR format instead of HEX) and want to suggest this
change to FreeBSD project.
Also i've created a PR with my patch describing what is done and for
what (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=169072cat=), but
maybe there's some other way to somehow push this code for review by
FreeBSD developers?
Thank you a lot and sorry for noobish question :)

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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar

It appears I was mistaken.


Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of SpinRite.


first - it is off topic.
second - because all commercial software like that are designed for 
uneducated user, mostly try to automatically do everything. Which is a 
danger not help.


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Re: How to donate code

2012-07-17 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:16:12 +0300,
Виталий Туровец core...@corebug.net a écrit :

Hello,

 Hello, colleagues!
 How would one propose some code to current branch?
 I've made a little change to ifconfig ( a switch to display IPv4
 network masks in CIDR format instead of HEX) and want to suggest this
 change to FreeBSD project.
 Also i've created a PR with my patch describing what is done and for
 what (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=169072cat=), but
 maybe there's some other way to somehow push this code for review by
 FreeBSD developers?

You may post to freebsd-current@ or freebsd-hacker@ mailing lists. A PR
is always a good thing for the record.

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Re: Jails on FreeBSD 9.0

2012-07-17 Thread Herbert J. Skuhra
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Kalle Møller
freebsd-questi...@k-moeller.dk wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra h.sku...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:56 AM, joris dedieu joris.ded...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 2012/7/12 Herbert J. Skuhra h.sku...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra h.sku...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi,

 although I've followed the instructions in jail(8) and jail.conf(5) I
 cannot manage to setup jails on FreeBSD 9.0 STABLE (r238334).

 The symptons:

 * ssh'ing to jail works, but it takes about 20 seconds until password
   prompt appears

 Does it still the same with UseDNS=no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?

 No, I can login instantly.

 * netstat -r in the jail takes about 150 seconds to finish

 Does netstat -rn does the same ?

 No, the output appears immediately.

 * connections to the internet time out; with tcpdump I see that
   packets leave and enter the public interface on the host, but never
   reach the jail

 I use lo1 interface and ip address 192.168.1.1/24 for the jail. Public
 interface is fxp0 with both an IPv4 and an IPv6 address assigned.
 Of course, nat is enable via pf on the public interface.

 Can you post your PF configuration ?

 After switching to ipfw/natd networking in the jail works.
 Could this be a bug?

 I think you had an issue with firewall that block name resolution and
 makes everything goes slow. At least you need one single line on your
 pf.conf :

 nat on $public_interface form $jail_ip to any - ($public_interface)

 Even when loading only the nat rule it doesn't work:

 nat on fxp0 from  192.168.1.0/24 to any - $ext_addr

 Thanks.
 Herbert


 As Mark Felder wrote

 You don't have anything in /etc/resolv.conf, in the jail do you? :-)

I have two nameservers listed!
If I boot a kernel with ipfirewall/ipdivert and run natd the network
in the jail works!

With pf:

I see the packets going out/coming in on fxp0 but somehow the jail
does not see them.

A 'dig www.google.com' in the jail fails with connection timed out;
no servers could be reached, but

11:39:45.30 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.64452 
google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 10794+ A? www.google.com. (32)
11:39:45.694045 IP google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain 
xxx.yyy.zzz.64452: 10794 6/0/0 CNAME www.l.google.com., A
173.194.35.177, A 173.194.35.176, A 173.194.35.179, A 173.194.35.180,
A 173.194.35.178 (132)
11:39:50.667799 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.64452 
google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 10794+ A? www.google.com. (32)
11:39:50.687083 IP google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain 
xxx.yyy.zzz.64452: 10794 6/0/0 CNAME www.l.google.com., A
173.194.35.177, A 173.194.35.178, A 173.194.35.179, A 173.194.35.180,
A 173.194.35.176 (132)
11:39:55.668783 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.64452 
google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 10794+ A? www.google.com. (32)
11:39:55.675917 IP google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain 
xxx.yyy.zzz.64452: 10794 6/0/0 CNAME www.l.google.com., A
173.194.35.180, A 173.194.35.177, A 173.194.35.179, A 173.194.35.176,
A 173.194.35.178 (132)

And 'nc 173.194.35.177 80':

11:41:52.176904 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http  xxx.yyy.zzz.56936:
Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss
1430,sackOK,TS val 1445658553 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0
11:41:53.382320 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http  xxx.yyy.zzz.56936:
Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss
1430,sackOK,TS val 1445659753 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0
11:41:54.088585 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936  muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http:
Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale
6,sackOK,TS val 8596173 ecr 0], length 0
11:41:54.098838 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http  xxx.yyy.zzz.56936:
Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss
1430,sackOK,TS val 1445660466 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0
11:41:55.796638 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http  xxx.yyy.zzz.56936:
Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss
1430,sackOK,TS val 1445662155 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0
11:41:57.288596 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936  muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http:
Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale
6,sackOK,TS val 8599373 ecr 0], length 0
11:41:57.299125 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http  xxx.yyy.zzz.56936:
Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss
1430,sackOK,TS val 1445663650 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0
11:42:00.488595 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936  muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http:
Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol],
length 0
11:42:00.498606 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http  xxx.yyy.zzz.56936:
Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss
1430,sackOK,TS val 1445666834 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0
11:42:00.621724 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http  xxx.yyy.zzz.56936:
Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss
1430,sackOK,TS val 1445666957 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], 

Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-17 Thread Bas Smeelen

On 07/17/2012 11:36 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

It appears I was mistaken.


Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of 
SpinRite.


first - it is off topic.
second - because all commercial software like that are designed for 
uneducated user, mostly try to automatically do everything. Which is a 
danger not help.


Hi
This is an old story.
You can look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpinRite
and the talk page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ASpinRite

http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/steve-gibson-is-a-fraud/


I have never used this tool because dd has always sufficed.
Even with an almost end of hardware life (takketaketakke noise generating) 
disk I have been able to create an image (even with hitting the disk case 
because heads got stuck) and rescue data from it with plain dd. This has 
been more then 8 years ago, since then I make sure to always have multiple 
good back-ups



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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-17 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:07 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar articulated:

  It appears I was mistaken.
 
  Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of
  SpinRite.
 
 first - it is off topic.
 second - because all commercial software like that are designed for 
 uneducated user, mostly try to automatically do everything. Which is
 a danger not help.

I love reading your posts first thing in the morning Wojciech. After
having read them I have assured myself that I cannot possible read
anything more asinine for the rest of the day. Your replies are as sour
as verjuice and of even less usefulness. To call you an incorrigible
malcontent would be to simply state the obvious. Your spiel is
abstruse, rarely on topic and totally self serving. You continue to
cast aspersions and heap maledictions upon any who dare to disagree
with you. Quite frankly, your postings are about as useful as tits on
a bull. It is with great pleasure that I am creating a kill filter to
bounce anymore such mail from you that I should be so unfortunate as to
receive.

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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-17 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Mon Jul 16 01:17:33 2012
 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:13 +0200 (CEST)
 From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
 To: Polytropon free...@edvax.de
 Cc: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

  read attempts. In worst case, there will be gaps in the
  result.


 Surely SpinRite is more clever than that, 
 i would bet otherwise. simple tools and free tools are always better

You continue to demonsteate that you don't know what you don't know.


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Twitter.com is loading slowly after updating to Firefox 13.0.1

2012-07-17 Thread Toomas Aas

Hello!

I'm having this problem on two different computers, one running  
8.3-STABLE and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox  
from 12.0 to 13.0.1, whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but  
after that a message appears saying that Twitter.com is loading  
slowly, and the site is practically unusable - clicking on any of the  
links has no effect.


Various support sites say that this may be a problem with Firefox  
extensions or plugins, or some difficult-to-find problem which may be  
worked around by clearing cache and cookies, or trying with a new  
Firefox profile.


For testing, I have disabled all extensions and plugins. I have also  
tried moving my ~/.mozilla directory out of the way so that new empty  
profile is created. None of this has helped. The fact that this is  
happening on two totally different machines is leading me to think  
that maybe this is some peculiarity in a way that Firefox is compiled  
on FreeBSD, so I decided to ask if anyone else is seeing this.


When updating Firefox to 13.0.1, I didn't change any port  
configuration options from what I was using previously:

cat /var/db/ports/firefox/options
# This file is auto-generated by 'make config'.
# Options for firefox-13.0.1,1
_FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST=DBUS PGO DEBUG LOGGING OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DBUS
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=PGO
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=DEBUG
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=LOGGING
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS

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KVM attach drive to FreeBSD guest

2012-07-17 Thread Brent Clark

Hiya

Im running FreeNas on a KVM guest. I need to add (attach) a virtual drive.

I run:
qemu-img create -f qcow2 morespace.img 10G

virsh:
attach-disk freenas /space/morespace.img vdb

I restart the FreeNas guest, but the spare drive is not shown on 'gpart list or 
show'

To make extra sure, I did the same steps for a Debian guest. The attached drive 
is available.

So I can only assume this is a FreeBSD issue.

Anyone know how to attach a drive to a FreeBsD KVM guest?

Kind Regards
Brent Clark
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Re: Twitter.com is loading slowly after updating to Firefox 13.0.1

2012-07-17 Thread Lars Eighner

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Toomas Aas wrote:


Hello!

I'm having this problem on two different computers, one running 8.3-STABLE 
and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox from 12.0 to 13.0.1, 
whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but after that a message appears 
saying that Twitter.com is loading slowly, and the site is practically 
unusable - clicking on any of the links has no effect.


If you do not know that there is something in firefox (now 13ish) which you
must have, deinstall it and install firefox-esr (now 10ish).  Apparently
firefox is bleeding-edge and might better be called firefox-devel.  The
stable version is in firefox-esr.

I haven't found anything that is mission-critical to me that is missing from
esr.  Everything works, except the linux-flash on flowplayer sites using js,
but that is a 12ish linux-flash bug, not firefox.  Sites using flowplayer
without js work fine.


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Re: KVM attach drive to FreeBSD guest

2012-07-17 Thread Brent Clark

On 17/07/2012 13:58, Brent Clark wrote:

virsh:
attach-disk freenas /space/morespace.img vdb


Hiya

After much googling, I found the following on libvirt mailinglist 
(http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-November/msg00796.html)

So the command is

virsh: attach-disk freenas /space/morespace.img sdb (as opposed to vdb)

HTH

Regards
Brent Clark


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Re: Twitter.com is loading slowly after updating to Firefox 13.0.1

2012-07-17 Thread Greg Larkin
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On 7/17/12 7:56 AM, Toomas Aas wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I'm having this problem on two different computers, one running 
 8.3-STABLE and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox
 from 12.0 to 13.0.1, whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in
 but after that a message appears saying that Twitter.com is
 loading slowly, and the site is practically unusable - clicking on
 any of the links has no effect.
 
 Various support sites say that this may be a problem with Firefox 
 extensions or plugins, or some difficult-to-find problem which may
 be worked around by clearing cache and cookies, or trying with a
 new Firefox profile.
 
 For testing, I have disabled all extensions and plugins. I have
 also tried moving my ~/.mozilla directory out of the way so that
 new empty profile is created. None of this has helped. The fact
 that this is happening on two totally different machines is leading
 me to think that maybe this is some peculiarity in a way that
 Firefox is compiled on FreeBSD, so I decided to ask if anyone else
 is seeing this.
 
 When updating Firefox to 13.0.1, I didn't change any port
 configuration options from what I was using previously: cat
 /var/db/ports/firefox/options # This file is auto-generated by
 'make config'. # Options for firefox-13.0.1,1 
 _FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST=DBUS PGO DEBUG LOGGING
 OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DBUS OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=PGO 
 OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=DEBUG OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=LOGGING 
 OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS
 

Hi Toomas,

I ran into this problem with FF13 on OS X over the weekend, and I
fixed it with a suggestion I found somewhere online:

Open the about:config preference pane in FF.  Change the
http.keep-alive property to true, and you should be all set.

Hope that helps,
Greg

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Re: Ports building automatically with default options?

2012-07-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Reko Turja reko.tu...@liukuma.net writes:

 Ghost in the machine? :D

I just saw on the ports list that it has just been fixed.
Looks like a typo in ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk.

Sorry for doubting you...

Good luck.
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Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf

2012-07-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Jakub Lach jakub_l...@mailplus.pl writes:

 1. Hope I can still log in single user mode and correct 
 /etc/login.conf? I'm afraid of md5 - sha512 change.

It's not a problem. New passwords will be created with SHA512, but old
ones in MD5 (or, for that matter, DES or Bluefish or several other
formats listed in crypt(3)) will still work. 

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Re: Twitter.com is loading slowly after updating to Firefox 13.0.1

2012-07-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar
and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox from 12.0 to 13.0.1, 
whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but after that a message appears 
saying that Twitter.com is loading slowly, and the site is practically 
unusable - clicking on any of the links has no effect.



i don't think it is freebsd related question.

anyway - use firefox 10.0.0.5-esr from ports.

It just works(R).
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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar




Surely SpinRite is more clever than that,

i would bet otherwise. simple tools and free tools are always better


You continue to demonsteate that you don't know what you don't know.

are you another sponsored by some recovery tool commercial producer?
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Re: Ports building automatically with default options?

2012-07-17 Thread Reko Turja
-Original Message- 
From: Lowell Gilbert



I just saw on the ports list that it has just been fixed.
Looks like a typo in ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk.

Sorry for doubting you...


No worries, was pretty stumped myself for a while there. Time to subscribe 
to ports@ too then I reckon.


-Reko 


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Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf

2012-07-17 Thread Jakub Lach
If remember correctly, accessing single user mode here
requires root password, but will it use login.conf?

Killing init is not solution (I think I lack privileges as 
user anyway, remember I can't su account) because
I'm running KMS patches and will not see anything 
(lacking visible system console output).


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Re: Twitter.com is loading slowly after updating to Firefox 13.0.1

2012-07-17 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, July 17, 2012 a las 07:01:28PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar escribió:

  whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but after that a message 
  appears 
  saying that Twitter.com is loading slowly, and the site is practically 
  unusable - clicking on any of the links has no effect.
 
 i don't think it is freebsd related question.

fully agreed; and: what is Twitter at all?

matthias
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Re: Apache vs. nginx

2012-07-17 Thread Paul Schmehl

Thanks, Chuck.  That's very useful input.

--On July 17, 2012 10:40:30 AM -0700 Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:


On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Paul Schmehl wrote:

I'm the admin for a small hobby website (Stovebolt.com - about 7 million
hits/mo).  We're fixin to buy a new server, and since I have to start
from scratch (install FreeBSD and all the needed ports), I'm wondering
if anyone on this list has switched from Apache to nginx.

If you have, what has your experience been like?  Was the change
relatively easy?  (I'm not intimidated by technical details.  I've been
running FreeBSD on these servers for about 12 years now.)  Was the
performance better?  (We've not been having any problems with Apache to
this point.) Is there sufficient support from addon apps to run a site
with a php-driven forum?


I've compared them; since I know Apache...rather well, switching to nginx
didn't strike me as a useful change at any of the sites for which I've
setup or managed their webservers.  You have to invoke external scripts
like a PHP forum via FastCGI (what nginx calls ngx_http_fastcgi_module);
using and tuning FastCGI separately from the webserver itself definitely
has some advantages, but those same advantages can be obtained in Apache
by using mod_fcgi instead of using mod_php directly.

Apache is bulkier per process than nginx but has more modules and config
options available for it; nginx seems to have been tuned more for server
farms hosting a lot of low-volume vanity domains, so it has minimal
overhead, implements IP-based and name-based virtual hosting eloquently,
implements bandwidth rate controls as a core functionality, etc.

I cannot recall encountering a circumstance where the base performance of
the webserver itself turned out to be the primary criterion for website
performance; sites are almost always constrained by bandwidth and/or the
performance of the dynamic scripts, database backend, etc-- and not by
the webserver's ability to serve static resources.

Regards,




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Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf

2012-07-17 Thread Jakub Lach
Initially dropped to single user mode, but when 
I saw ED(1) I reconsidered and dusted off trusty 
LiveCD :)

Thanks.

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Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf

2012-07-17 Thread Mike Jeays
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:48:38 -0700 (PDT)
Jakub Lach jakub_l...@mailplus.pl wrote:

 Initially dropped to single user mode, but when 
 I saw ED(1) I reconsidered and dusted off trusty 
 LiveCD :)
 
 Thanks.
 
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ed is OK if you have access to another machine with internet access - the wiki 
article tells how to use it, and it isn't hard when you know how.

With single-user mode only, not so easy...

A very crude README that gives the basics, that is accessible in single user 
mode, might be quite useful.
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Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf

2012-07-17 Thread Jakub Lach
Or vi in place.

Really, it always surprises me there's 
no vi available in single user mode.

vi 352k, ed 54k. 

And I bet some historical vi could be 
smaller still.

...but I have nothing against ed, I 
simply never memorized how to
use it properly.

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Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf

2012-07-17 Thread Reko Turja
-Original Message- 
From: Jakub Lach


Or vi in place.


Really, it always surprises me there's
no vi available in single user mode.


If machine is mostly sane, why not just mount -a upon entering single 
user?


-Reko 


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Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf

2012-07-17 Thread Jakub Lach
That's substantial if, no?

But in this case, yes, I should 
have mounted fs maybe.

But really didn't know what to
expect.

Thanks for help again.

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Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf

2012-07-17 Thread RW
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:26:10 -0700 (PDT)
Jakub Lach wrote:

 Or vi in place.
 
 Really, it always surprises me there's 
 no vi available in single user mode.
 

There is /rescue/vi
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Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf

2012-07-17 Thread Jakub Lach
Good catch, totally missed it.

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Re: How to donate code

2012-07-17 Thread Eitan Adler
On 17 July 2012 02:16, Виталий Туровец core...@corebug.net wrote:
 Hello, colleagues!
 How would one propose some code to current branch?
 I've made a little change to ifconfig ( a switch to display IPv4
 network masks in CIDR format instead of HEX) and want to suggest this
 change to FreeBSD project.
 Also i've created a PR with my patch describing what is done and for
 what (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=169072cat=), but
 maybe there's some other way to somehow push this code for review by
 FreeBSD developers?
 Thank you a lot and sorry for noobish question :)

The general advice is mail the patch to -hackers for review. If you
don't get a reply or if people like it, submit a PR so it doesn't get
lost. Be aware that the latency for some patches could be longer than
you expect. :(

FWIW unified diff format patches are much preferred. (diff -u)


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