Re: Locally modifying ports
kron wrote:
I use in /etc/make.conf:
...
.if ${.CURDIR:M*/ports/x11-wm/openbox}
EXTRA_PATCHES+=/home/ok/patches/openbox/patch-VK-NULL_SELF_TITLE.diff
EXTRA_PATCHES+=/home/ok/patches/openbox/patch-VK-SPEED_FOCUS.diff
.endif
...
What do you do if the extra patches need some pathnames to be removed
(need a PATCH_STRIP different from those in files/patch-*)?
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Re: FreeBSD Stable production version.
On 7/25/12 1:13 PM, Marwan Sultan wrote: Hello all and Good Morning, Afternoon or evening :) I finally decided to take off my FreeBSD 7.2 server which is onlin esince 2009. I will go for a new FreeBSD version and will move out all data. My Server is mainly is a MAIL server, sendmail. and ofcourse few websites, data.etc.. Which version do you recommend? Shall I go for 9 ? or 8.3 is still more fit for a production and bsns server ? I'd say it's a matter of personal preference. We're mostly running 8.3 in production here. I've recently installed 9-STABLE servers to try them out and fill PRs if I get problems. I would encourage you to use 9-STABLE so that you may do the same and ensure the stability of future releases. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Removing sendmail from an installed system
Lowell Gilbert wrote: Darren Pilgrim list_free...@bluerosetech.com writes: I'm removing sendmail entirely from an installed system. I had WITHOUT_SENDMAIL in /etc/src.conf when I updated to RELENG_8_3, but that left an old version of sendmail rotting away on disk. This is the list I have so far: /etc/mail/* (excluding mailer.conf) /etc/rc.d/sendmail /usr/bin/vacation /usr/libexec/mail.local /usr/libexec/sendmail /usr/libexec/smrsh /usr/sbin/editmap /usr/sbin/mailstats /usr/sbin/makemap /usr/sbin/praliases /usr/share/sendmail /var/spool/clientmqueue /var/spool/mqueue Is this list complete? I'm intentionally leaving the stuff for mailwrapper. I'm ok with leaving /etc/rc.d/sendmail behind as well, but it looks like it's not needed by anything (i.e., nothing requires mail). make delete-old; see the section Deleting obsolete files, directories and libraries in the handbook. Even though I have WITHOUT_SENDMAIL specified and the world was built with that, mergemaster still installs /etc/mail/aliases and /etc/rc.d/sendmail. Is there a way to prevent this other than adding them to IGNORE_FILES in mergemasterrc? There are other ways, but that's the first one I would think of. Note that neither of these files can be harmful, and might (especially aliases) be used by other MTA. I have same question but from different view point. In my situation I find it easier to install from scratch to empty disk using .iso file when moving to an newer version of freebsd. Sendmail is included as part of the base system. What is best method to totally remove sendmail including the /var/log/sendmail.st file from rotating? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Securituy - logging of user commands
Hello list, We're currently working towards the PCI DSS certification (Payment Card Industry) for a project at work. One of the prerequisites is that all user commands be logged. We're currently using a very bad hack that takes the last command from a user's history and sends it to a log server. This of course is unreliable as a user may entirely disable their history, or just use another shell to bypass the csh function or whatever. My colleagues installed Snoopy on debian and it seems to work wonders as a module which is LD preloaded. I notice it also exists on FreeBSD as /usr/ports/security/snoopy . However I face several problems with it, mainly it doesn't seem to log anything. As per the README, I have added /usr/local/lib/snoopy.so to /etc/ld.so.preload I'm not even sure this file is used on BSD ? As per the man page for ld.so there's no such file: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ld.so Neither libmap.conf nor ldconfig(8) seem to be the answer either. I've googled for ld.so.conf and found the following 2 posts which seem to indicate it isn't used either: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2003-June/001746.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2003-June/001747.html The posts mention -current but date back from 2003. Lastly, I have also noticed that the port installs /usr/local/bin/detect which I executed and would always reply something's fishy. By looking at the (very short) source I noticed the program merely loads /lib/libc.so.6 , and it wouldn't find it on my system (8.3-STABLE with /lib/libc.so.7). Adjusting and recompiling lets the program correctly print secure but it does nothing else. I have checked that the output /usr/local/lib/snoopy.so module is linked against libc.so.7 , and it is. Has anyone ever got Snoopy to work on BSD ? Might I need to install linux emulation ? Is there any other port that might do the job and which I could use ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Securituy - logging of user commands
No I haven't. That's a good suggestion, I'll look into it and see if it fits the purpose :) On 7/25/12 2:04 PM, Peter Boosten wrote: Have you ever considered the audit function of FreeBSD? Peter Boosten On 25 jul. 2012, at 13:47, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote: Hello list, We're currently working towards the PCI DSS certification (Payment Card Industry) for a project at work. One of the prerequisites is that all user commands be logged. We're currently using a very bad hack that takes the last command from a user's history and sends it to a log server. This of course is unreliable as a user may entirely disable their history, or just use another shell to bypass the csh function or whatever. My colleagues installed Snoopy on debian and it seems to work wonders as a module which is LD preloaded. I notice it also exists on FreeBSD as /usr/ports/security/snoopy . However I face several problems with it, mainly it doesn't seem to log anything. As per the README, I have added /usr/local/lib/snoopy.so to /etc/ld.so.preload I'm not even sure this file is used on BSD ? As per the man page for ld.so there's no such file: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ld.so Neither libmap.conf nor ldconfig(8) seem to be the answer either. I've googled for ld.so.conf and found the following 2 posts which seem to indicate it isn't used either: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2003-June/001746.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2003-June/001747.html The posts mention -current but date back from 2003. Lastly, I have also noticed that the port installs /usr/local/bin/detect which I executed and would always reply something's fishy. By looking at the (very short) source I noticed the program merely loads /lib/libc.so.6 , and it wouldn't find it on my system (8.3-STABLE with /lib/libc.so.7). Adjusting and recompiling lets the program correctly print secure but it does nothing else. I have checked that the output /usr/local/lib/snoopy.so module is linked against libc.so.7 , and it is. Has anyone ever got Snoopy to work on BSD ? Might I need to install linux emulation ? Is there any other port that might do the job and which I could use ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: FreeBSD Stable production version.
Well, I also like your philosophy of waiting x.1 ! its a very good point. Maybe 8.3-R would be the best. I will wait to hear more comments. Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:13:28 -0400 From: je...@seibercom.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Stable production version. On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:19:53 +0200 Damien Fleuriot articulated: I'd say it's a matter of personal preference. We're mostly running 8.3 in production here. I've recently installed 9-STABLE servers to try them out and fill PRs if I get problems. I would encourage you to use 9-STABLE so that you may do the same and ensure the stability of future releases. I would agree with that philosophy up to a point. It is definitely a matter of personal preference; however, for myself, I NEVER install version X.0 of any software if said software is to be used in a mission critical situation. I always wait until X.1 is released. If possible in your case, would it be feasible to wait until 9.1 is released? You can gather some info on it here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html. As usual, any correlation between the expected release date and the actual date is purely coincidental. Just my 2¢ on the matter. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ If you steal from one author it's plagiarism; if you steal from many it's research. Wilson Mizner ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Securituy - logging of user commands
Have you ever considered the audit function of FreeBSD? Peter Boosten On 25 jul. 2012, at 13:47, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote: Hello list, We're currently working towards the PCI DSS certification (Payment Card Industry) for a project at work. One of the prerequisites is that all user commands be logged. We're currently using a very bad hack that takes the last command from a user's history and sends it to a log server. This of course is unreliable as a user may entirely disable their history, or just use another shell to bypass the csh function or whatever. My colleagues installed Snoopy on debian and it seems to work wonders as a module which is LD preloaded. I notice it also exists on FreeBSD as /usr/ports/security/snoopy . However I face several problems with it, mainly it doesn't seem to log anything. As per the README, I have added /usr/local/lib/snoopy.so to /etc/ld.so.preload I'm not even sure this file is used on BSD ? As per the man page for ld.so there's no such file: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ld.so Neither libmap.conf nor ldconfig(8) seem to be the answer either. I've googled for ld.so.conf and found the following 2 posts which seem to indicate it isn't used either: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2003-June/001746.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2003-June/001747.html The posts mention -current but date back from 2003. Lastly, I have also noticed that the port installs /usr/local/bin/detect which I executed and would always reply something's fishy. By looking at the (very short) source I noticed the program merely loads /lib/libc.so.6 , and it wouldn't find it on my system (8.3-STABLE with /lib/libc.so.7). Adjusting and recompiling lets the program correctly print secure but it does nothing else. I have checked that the output /usr/local/lib/snoopy.so module is linked against libc.so.7 , and it is. Has anyone ever got Snoopy to work on BSD ? Might I need to install linux emulation ? Is there any other port that might do the job and which I could use ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Stable production version.
While I participate in this philosophy, a very good point was made on this list that if everyone waits for x.1 , then x.1 will just be riddled with all the bugs that nobody (or only a select few) found in x.0 That is the point that decided me to get 9-STABLE for 2 of our new firewall boxes. On 7/25/12 2:24 PM, Marwan Sultan wrote: Well, I also like your philosophy of waiting x.1 ! its a very good point. Maybe 8.3-R would be the best. I will wait to hear more comments. Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:13:28 -0400 From: je...@seibercom.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Stable production version. On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:19:53 +0200 Damien Fleuriot articulated: I'd say it's a matter of personal preference. We're mostly running 8.3 in production here. I've recently installed 9-STABLE servers to try them out and fill PRs if I get problems. I would encourage you to use 9-STABLE so that you may do the same and ensure the stability of future releases. I would agree with that philosophy up to a point. It is definitely a matter of personal preference; however, for myself, I NEVER install version X.0 of any software if said software is to be used in a mission critical situation. I always wait until X.1 is released. If possible in your case, would it be feasible to wait until 9.1 is released? You can gather some info on it here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html. As usual, any correlation between the expected release date and the actual date is purely coincidental. Just my 2¢ on the matter. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ If you steal from one author it's plagiarism; if you steal from many it's research. Wilson Mizner ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Stable production version.
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Marwan Sultan dead_l...@hotmail.comwrote: Well, I also like your philosophy of waiting x.1 ! its a very good point. Maybe 8.3-R would be the best. I will wait to hear more comments. For cowards, yes! Whoever said that -RELEASE is bad is a joker, too. Now, what the hell do you think can go so wrong on a Mail server running Sendmail and Apache? Network stack?? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Securituy - logging of user commands
Damien Fleuriot ml at my.gd writes: ... I notice it also exists on FreeBSD as /usr/ports/security/snoopy . However I face several problems with it, mainly it doesn't seem to log anything. As per the README, I have added /usr/local/lib/snoopy.so to /etc/ld.so.preload I'm not even sure this file is used on BSD ? ... /usr/ports/security/snoopy]# make clean; make ... # ls work/snoopy-1.8.0/ ... enable.sh ... jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Stable production version.
Hi, On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:19:53 +0200 Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote: On 7/25/12 1:13 PM, Marwan Sultan wrote: Hello all and Good Morning, Afternoon or evening :) I finally decided to take off my FreeBSD 7.2 server which is onlin esince 2009. I will go for a new FreeBSD version and will move out all data. My Server is mainly is a MAIL server, sendmail. and ofcourse few websites, data.etc.. Which version do you recommend? Shall I go for 9 ? or 8.3 is still more fit for a production and bsns server ? I'd say it's a matter of personal preference. We're mostly running 8.3 in production here. I do not wonder. This is the best choice. But I must say that I moved my machines now all to 10 and I am surprised how robust it already is. If robustness is the main concern, I would still recommend 8.x. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: help about free bsp version netcat to work it on ubuntu
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 07:18:13PM +0800, lei yang wrote: Aha,I just want to learn want to know how to build the netcat for freebsd version on a no-freebsd platform I'm really curious, now: Why? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Stable production version.
8.3 or 9.1. Using 9.0 when 9.1 is behind the corner is going backwards IMHO. or 9-STABLE if you want your system evolving up to release, which is nice because you can catch and solve all possible problems one at the time, and not be overwhelmed upgrading only to RELEASE. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/FreeBSD-Stable-production-version-tp5729696p5729739.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Securituy - logging of user commands
On 7/25/12 2:42 PM, jb wrote:
Damien Fleuriot ml at my.gd writes:
...
I notice it also exists on FreeBSD as /usr/ports/security/snoopy .
However I face several problems with it, mainly it doesn't seem to log
anything.
As per the README, I have added /usr/local/lib/snoopy.so to
/etc/ld.so.preload
I'm not even sure this file is used on BSD ?
...
/usr/ports/security/snoopy]# make clean; make
...
# ls work/snoopy-1.8.0/
...
enable.sh
...
jb
Well that's my problem exactly, really.
1/ the enable script won't work and will always return an error,
requiring a manual activation
2/ even once enabled, snoopy doesn't get loaded because
/etc/ld.so.preload is not used on FBSD apparently
3/ even when enabled with setenv LD_PRELOAD /usr/local/lib/snoopy.so,
snoopy won't return any log
From config.h:
/* Syslog facility to use */
#define SNOOPY_SYSLOG_FACILITY LOG_AUTHPRIV
/* Syslog level to use */
#define SNOOPY_SYSLOG_LEVEL LOG_INFO
From my syslog.conf:
auth.info;authpriv.info /var/log/auth.log
Yet I'm seeing not a trail in /var/log/auth.log , or messages, or even
in secure
I have however validated that snoopy.so is called, as per the following:
# truss ls /dev/null
[snip]
open(/usr/local/lib/snoopy.so,O_RDONLY,031)= 2 (0x2)
fstat(2,{ mode=-r-xr-xr-x ,inode=548761,size=6952,blksize=16384 }) = 0 (0x0)
fstatfs(0x2,0x7fffe220,0x19,0x0,0x80080053a068,0x0) = 0 (0x0)
pread(0x2,0x80063e2a0,0x1000,0x0,0x80080053a068,0x0) = 4096 (0x1000)
mmap(0x0,1056768,PROT_NONE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON|MAP_NOCORE,-1,0x0) =
34366341120 (0x80064c000)
mmap(0x80064c000,8192,PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_NOCORE,2,0x0)
= 34366341120 (0x80064c000)
mmap(0x80074d000,4096,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED,2,0x1000)
= 34367393792 (0x80074d000)
close(2) = 0 (0x0)
And still no logs...
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Re: How to get Huawei EC1561 USB modem working under FreeBSD 8.2?
Hi, On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:29:07 +0530 Manish Jain bourne.ident...@hotmail.com wrote: On 23-Jul-12 16:07, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Monday 23 July 2012 16:46:04 Manish Jain wrote: On 21-Jul-12 19:06, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Saturday, July 21, 2012 a las 06:01:11PM +0530, Manish Jain escribió: I am still stuck because I can't know the syntax to run usbdump. usbdump man usbdump usbconfig gives you the device numbers. I got something wrong. It is all done by usbconfig usbconfig without any parameters gives you a list of devices. One entry should look like this: ugen0.4: Huawei CDMA Technologies MSM Huawei, Incorporated at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON You enter then usbconfig -u 0 -a 4 dump_device_desc and you should get something like this: ugen0.4: Huawei CDMA Technologies MSM Huawei, Incorporated at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON bLength = 0x0012 bDescriptorType = 0x0001 bcdUSB = 0x0200 bDeviceClass = 0x bDeviceSubClass = 0x bDeviceProtocol = 0x bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0040 idVendor = 0x12d1 idProduct = 0x1803 bcdDevice = 0x iManufacturer = 0x0003 Huawei, Incorporated iProduct = 0x0002 Huawei CDMA Technologies MSM iSerialNumber = 0x no string bNumConfigurations = 0x0001 You try to find a solution from the other side of the rope. I think we better start here first. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Securituy - logging of user commands
Peter Boosten wrote: Have you ever considered the audit function of FreeBSD? Does it really log user commands? At best, it logs executed processes. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Support
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Re: How to get Huawei EC1561 USB modem working under FreeBSD 8.2?
El día Wednesday, July 25, 2012 a las 08:23:57PM +0700, Erich Dollansky escribió: You enter then usbconfig -u 0 -a 4 dump_device_desc and you should get something like this: ugen0.4: Huawei CDMA Technologies MSM Huawei, Incorporated at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON bLength = 0x0012 bDescriptorType = 0x0001 bcdUSB = 0x0200 bDeviceClass = 0x bDeviceSubClass = 0x bDeviceProtocol = 0x bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0040 idVendor = 0x12d1 idProduct = 0x1803 bcdDevice = 0x iManufacturer = 0x0003 Huawei, Incorporated iProduct = 0x0002 Huawei CDMA Technologies MSM iSerialNumber = 0x no string bNumConfigurations = 0x0001 You try to find a solution from the other side of the rope. I think we better start here first. Yep, I said this already: before there is no modem /dev/ device which belongs to the Huawei device and produced by u3g, and before one can not talk with AT cmds (for example with kermit), it makes no real sense to think in ppp and fire up ppp; matthias -- Matthias Apitz e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to get Huawei EC1561 USB modem working under FreeBSD 8.2?
On 25-Jul-12 18:53, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:29:07 +0530 Manish Jainbourne.ident...@hotmail.com wrote: On 23-Jul-12 16:07, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Monday 23 July 2012 16:46:04 Manish Jain wrote: On 21-Jul-12 19:06, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Saturday, July 21, 2012 a las 06:01:11PM +0530, Manish Jain escribió: I am still stuck because I can't know the syntax to run usbdump. usbdump man usbdump usbconfig gives you the device numbers. I got something wrong. It is all done by usbconfig usbconfig without any parameters gives you a list of devices. One entry should look like this: ugen0.4:Huawei CDMA Technologies MSM Huawei, Incorporated at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON You enter then usbconfig -u 0 -a 4 dump_device_desc and you should get something like this: ugen0.4:Huawei CDMA Technologies MSM Huawei, Incorporated at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON bLength = 0x0012 bDescriptorType = 0x0001 bcdUSB = 0x0200 bDeviceClass = 0x bDeviceSubClass = 0x bDeviceProtocol = 0x bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0040 idVendor = 0x12d1 idProduct = 0x1803 bcdDevice = 0x iManufacturer = 0x0003Huawei, Incorporated iProduct = 0x0002Huawei CDMA Technologies MSM iSerialNumber = 0xno string bNumConfigurations = 0x0001 You try to find a solution from the other side of the rope. I think we better start here first. Erich Hi, Thanks for your reply. I tried switching the USB ports and have some information which could help you to help me : usbconfig -u 0 -a 2 dump_device_desc : ugen0.2: HUAWEI Mobile HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON bLength = 0x0012 bDescriptorType = 0x0001 bcdUSB = 0x0110 bDeviceClass = 0x bDeviceSubClass = 0x bDeviceProtocol = 0x bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0040 idVendor = 0x12d1 idProduct = 0x140b bcdDevice = 0x iManufacturer = 0x0001 HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES iProduct = 0x0002 HUAWEI Mobile iSerialNumber = 0x0004 bNumConfigurations = 0x0001 usbconfig -u 0 -a 3 dump_device_desc : ugen0.3: Back-UPS ES 650Y-IN FW:853.m4.I USB FW:m4 American Power Conversion at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=LOW (1.5Mbps) pwr=ON bLength = 0x0012 bDescriptorType = 0x0001 bcdUSB = 0x0110 bDeviceClass = 0x bDeviceSubClass = 0x bDeviceProtocol = 0x bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0008 idVendor = 0x051d idProduct = 0x0002 bcdDevice = 0x0006 iManufacturer = 0x0003 American Power Conversion iProduct = 0x0001 Back-UPS ES 650Y-IN FW:853.m4.I USB FW:m4 iSerialNumber = 0x0002 BB0926005982 bNumConfigurations = 0x0001 Now what should my devfs.conf contain ? Currently it contains the following : link cuaU0.0 modem own modem root:operator perm modem 666 link ugen0.3 usv own usv root:operator perm usv 666 link cuaU0.1 apcups own apcups root:operator perm apcups 666 Obviously, these entries are incorrect since neither my modem speaks to the internet nor is any signal from the APC UPS recognized. I believe once I have the correct devfs entries, the whole system should work smoothly. But please correct me if I am wrong. Surprisingly, /etc/usb_modeswitch.d contains no entries for 12d1:140b or 051d:*. Do I need to reinstall usb_modeswitch.d ? Or can usbconfig configure the devices correctly ? I am no expert here, so if yes, I would need the complete commands. Thanks for any help. I am greatly indebted to FreeBSD and its philosophy making things 'as simple as possible, but not any simpler' - which has helped me learn a great deal about computers in general and managing my own computer in particular. But the USB related stuff still beats the hell out of me, so I need help here. BTW, my system now has the usbdump command (installed from sources downloaded from http://biot.com/usbdump/) but no manpage. Thanks again -- Regards, Manish Jain +91-99620-10329 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to determine the temperature of your CPU?
On 25 July 2012 07:55, Владислав Продан univers...@ukr.net wrote: CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor(3110.49-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x600f12 Family = 15 Model = 1 Stepping = 2 # kldstat -v | grep temp 319 cpu/coretemp 311 hostb/amdtemp % sysctl dev.amdtemp % sysctl hw.acpi.thermal the other stuff is probably best extracted via: % sysctl dev.cpu | grep temperature (as you can't use wildcards in sysctl oids, bleh) For my dual core machine, I use: % sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature dev.amdtemp.0.sensor0 \ dev.amdtemp.0.sensor1 dev.cpu.0.temperature dev.cpu.1.temperature in a script to quickly see all of my temperature sensors. You likely have many more. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to get Huawei EC1561 USB modem working under FreeBSD 8.2?
Hi On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:21:04 +0530 Manish Jain bourne.ident...@hotmail.com wrote: On 25-Jul-12 18:53, Erich Dollansky wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:29:07 +0530 Manish Jainbourne.ident...@hotmail.com wrote: On 23-Jul-12 16:07, Erich Dollansky wrote: On Monday 23 July 2012 16:46:04 Manish Jain wrote: On 21-Jul-12 19:06, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Saturday, July 21, 2012 a las 06:01:11PM +0530, Manish Jain escribió: I tried switching the USB ports and have some information which could help you to help me : usbconfig -u 0 -a 2 dump_device_desc : ugen0.2: HUAWEI Mobile HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON bLength = 0x0012 bDescriptorType = 0x0001 bcdUSB = 0x0110 bDeviceClass = 0x bDeviceSubClass = 0x bDeviceProtocol = 0x bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0040 idVendor = 0x12d1 idProduct = 0x140b This is strange. src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs says this: product HUAWEI E140B0x140b 3G modem This means that your product is supported Is this line in your usbdevs? Now what should my devfs.conf contain ? Currently it contains the following : Mine is empty. Comment all entries out. This might be the problem. link cuaU0.0 modem own modem root:operator perm modem 666 link ugen0.3 usv own usv root:operator perm usv 666 link cuaU0.1 apcups own apcups root:operator perm apcups 666 Obviously, these entries are incorrect since neither my modem speaks to the internet nor is any signal from the APC UPS recognized. I believe once I have the correct devfs entries, the whole system should work smoothly. But please correct me if I am wrong. Surprisingly, /etc/usb_modeswitch.d contains no entries for 12d1:140b or 051d:*. Do I need to reinstall usb_modeswitch.d ? Or can usbconfig configure the devices correctly ? I am no expert here, so if yes, I would need the complete commands. What version of FreeBSD are you using? Thanks for any help. I am greatly indebted to FreeBSD and its philosophy making things 'as simple as possible, but not any simpler' - which has helped me learn a great deal about computers in general and managing my own computer in particular. But the USB related stuff still beats the hell out of me, so I need help here. There is something very, very simple wrong. I just do not see now what it is. I have the feeling that your modem is not recognised while it should be as it is known to FreeBSD. BTW, my system now has the usbdump command (installed from sources downloaded from http://biot.com/usbdump/) but no manpage. You got then a Linux version which might causes more problems that you need. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
how to speed up port make??
hi is it possible to speed up port make ?? i want to install openbox and xorg on a Pentium 4 and 2gb ram, compiling xorg takes about 2 hours thank you all mru Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mail(1) save command does not work as in the man page
According to the man mail(1): save(s) Takes a message list and a filename and appends each message in turn to the end of the file. The filename in quotes, followed by the line count and character count is echoed on the user's terminal. However, it seems the mail is copied, but not deleted on exit: $ mail -f mbox Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. mbox: 1 message 1 me...@bristol.ac.uk Wed Jul 25 16:36 46/2045 kuku s 1 somefile somefile [New file] h * 1 me...@bristol.ac.uk Wed Jul 25 16:36 46/2045 kuku q $ mail -f somefile Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. somefile: 1 message 1 me...@bristol.ac.uk Wed Jul 25 16:36 46/2045 kuku q So the mail was copied to somefile file, as expected. However, it's still in mbox file too: $ mail -f mbox Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. mbox: 1 message 1 me...@bristol.ac.uk Wed Jul 25 16:36 46/2045 kuku q $ This shouldn't happen. According to the man page the expected behaviour is that message 1 should be deleted from mbox on quit. Any comments? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
how to speed up port make??
Mr U writes: is it possible to speed up port make ?? i want to install openbox and xorg on a Pentium 4 and 2gb ram, compiling xorg takes about 2 hours Humorous answer: Yes - get a more powerful computer. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to speed up port make??
You could use pkg_add -r xorg to get it and all of its dependencies installed. I usually use that, in combination with ccache to speed up compiles called by portupgrade. Brian On Jul 25, 2012 8:38 AM, Mr U mru...@yahoo.com wrote: hi is it possible to speed up port make ?? i want to install openbox and xorg on a Pentium 4 and 2gb ram, compiling xorg takes about 2 hours thank you all mru Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Securituy - logging of user commands
Damien Fleuriot ml at my.gd writes: ... From my syslog.conf: auth.info;authpriv.info /var/log/auth.log Yet I'm seeing not a trail in /var/log/auth.log , or messages, or even in secure ... # less /var/log/auth.log Feb 22 21:13:56 localhost newsyslog[1503]: logfile first created Feb 22 21:14:07 localhost login: login on ttyv0 as jb Feb 22 21:14:15 localhost su: jb to root on /dev/ttyv0 ... Jul 25 15:23:48 localhost su: jb to root on /dev/pts/3 Jul 25 17:25:05 localhost snoopy[50059]: [uid:0 sid:45449 tty:/dev/pts/2 cwd:/usr/ports/security/snoopy filename:/usr/bin/touch]: touch /etc/ld.so.preload Jul 25 17:25:05 localhost snoopy[50060]: [uid:0 sid:45449 tty:/dev/pts/2 cwd:/usr/ports/security/snoopy filename:/usr/bin/grep]: grep -c ^/usr/local/lib//snoopy.so /etc/ld.so.preload Jul 25 17:52:29 localhost snoopy[50145]: [uid:0 sid:46687 tty:/dev/pts/3 cwd:/usr/home/jb filename:/usr/bin/less]: less /var/log/auth.log Jul 25 17:54:03 localhost snoopy[50148]: [uid:0 sid:46687 tty:/dev/pts/3 cwd:/usr/home/jb filename:/usr/bin/touch]: touch test1 Jul 25 17:54:08 localhost snoopy[50149]: [uid:0 sid:46687 tty:/dev/pts/3 cwd:/usr/home/jb filename:/usr/bin/less]: less /var/log/auth.log [root@localhost /home/jb]# jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to speed up port make??
is it possible to speed up port make ?? i want to install openbox and xorg on a Pentium 4 and 2gb ram, compiling xorg takes about 2 hours Humorous answer: Yes - get a more powerful computer. Robert Huff real answer - get binary packages. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Stable production version.
I finally decided to take off my FreeBSD 7.2 server which is onlin esince 2009. I will go for a new FreeBSD version and will move out all data. you mean just new freebsd or new server? if first there is no need to move data at all Which version do you recommend? Shall I go for 9 ? or 8.3 is still more fit for a production and bsns server ? i use 8.3 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
geli - selecting cipher
i need high speed disk encryption (many disks running in parallel, lots of data movement). i have processor with AES-NI. geli give 150MB/s performance (tested from/to md ramdisk) using default and recommended AES-XTS and ca 400MB/s read and 700MB/s write using AES-CBC. I'm not cryptography expert, is CBC somehow less secure, and if so is it really a problem? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to speed up port make??
is it possible to speed up port make ?? i want to install openbox and xorg on a Pentium 4 and 2gb ram, compiling xorg takes about 2 hours 2 hours only?? Try lang/gcc46 or 47 or science/paraview This will keep your electronic helper busy for a day. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: geli - selecting cipher
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: i need high speed disk encryption (many disks running in parallel, lots of I'm not cryptography expert, is CBC somehow less secure, and if so is it really a problem? XTS-AES is a standard devised specifically for disk encryption - it supports operations on sectors that aren't divisible by the cipher block size. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_encryption_theory#XEX-based_tweaked-codebook_mode_with_ciphertext_stealing_.28XTS.29 I personally would be fine with AES-CTR mode, since I don't see the need to defend against the mythical strong adversary who can write arbitrary bits to unused sectors and then ask to have them decrypted. AES-CTR doesn't (by itself) have any integrity check. AES-CBC is fine, but the ciphertext is larger than the plaintext. - M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to speed up port make??
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 08:11:50PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: is it possible to speed up port make ?? i want to install openbox and xorg on a Pentium 4 and 2gb ram, compiling xorg takes about 2 hours 2 hours only?? Try lang/gcc46 or 47 or science/paraview This will keep your electronic helper busy for a day. It's also rather obvious that he never did this on a P1 at 90Mhz. KDK ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Securituy - logging of user commands
On 25 Jul 2012, at 18:15, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Damien Fleuriot ml at my.gd writes: ... From my syslog.conf: auth.info;authpriv.info /var/log/auth.log Yet I'm seeing not a trail in /var/log/auth.log , or messages, or even in secure ... # less /var/log/auth.log Feb 22 21:13:56 localhost newsyslog[1503]: logfile first created Feb 22 21:14:07 localhost login: login on ttyv0 as jb Feb 22 21:14:15 localhost su: jb to root on /dev/ttyv0 ... Jul 25 15:23:48 localhost su: jb to root on /dev/pts/3 Jul 25 17:25:05 localhost snoopy[50059]: [uid:0 sid:45449 tty:/dev/pts/2 cwd:/usr/ports/security/snoopy filename:/usr/bin/touch]: touch /etc/ld.so.preload Jul 25 17:25:05 localhost snoopy[50060]: [uid:0 sid:45449 tty:/dev/pts/2 cwd:/usr/ports/security/snoopy filename:/usr/bin/grep]: grep -c ^/usr/local/lib//snoopy.so /etc/ld.so.preload Jul 25 17:52:29 localhost snoopy[50145]: [uid:0 sid:46687 tty:/dev/pts/3 cwd:/usr/home/jb filename:/usr/bin/less]: less /var/log/auth.log Jul 25 17:54:03 localhost snoopy[50148]: [uid:0 sid:46687 tty:/dev/pts/3 cwd:/usr/home/jb filename:/usr/bin/touch]: touch test1 Jul 25 17:54:08 localhost snoopy[50149]: [uid:0 sid:46687 tty:/dev/pts/3 cwd:/usr/home/jb filename:/usr/bin/less]: less /var/log/auth.log [root@localhost /home/jb]# jb Thanks for taking the time to show me it works, at least for you. What fbsd and snoopy version might these be ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to determine the temperature of your CPU?
25.07.2012 18:16, ill...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 July 2012 07:55, Владислав Продан univers...@ukr.net wrote: CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor(3110.49-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x600f12 Family = 15 Model = 1 Stepping = 2 # kldstat -v | grep temp 319 cpu/coretemp 311 hostb/amdtemp % sysctl dev.amdtemp % sysctl hw.acpi.thermal the other stuff is probably best extracted via: % sysctl dev.cpu | grep temperature (as you can't use wildcards in sysctl oids, bleh) For my dual core machine, I use: % sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature dev.amdtemp.0.sensor0 \ dev.amdtemp.0.sensor1 dev.cpu.0.temperature dev.cpu.1.temperature in a script to quickly see all of my temperature sensors. You likely have many more. Thanks for the tips! But I have already tried these commands. With 2,4,6-core temperature is displayed, but with 8 cores is not :( Probably will have to arrange PR ... -- Vladislav V. Prodan System Network Administrator http://support.od.ua +380 67 4584408, +380 99 4060508 VVP88-RIPE ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to speed up port make??
Anton Shterenlikht writes: i want to install openbox and xorg on a Pentium 4 and 2gb ram, compiling xorg takes about 2 hours 2 hours only?? Try lang/gcc46 or 47 or science/paraview snort I beiieve the winner is OpenOffice and its kindred; still compiling after 2.75 hours on 4x3ghz and 8gbytes memory. The various Javas also take a while Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to speed up port make??
Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com writes: Mr U writes: is it possible to speed up port make ?? i want to install openbox and xorg on a Pentium 4 and 2gb ram, compiling xorg takes about 2 hours Humorous answer: Yes - get a more powerful computer. or even just build on a more powerful computer... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Stable production version.
On 25/07/2012 13:13, Jerry wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:19:53 +0200 Damien Fleuriot articulated: I'd say it's a matter of personal preference. We're mostly running 8.3 in production here. I've recently installed 9-STABLE servers to try them out and fill PRs if I get problems. I would encourage you to use 9-STABLE so that you may do the same and ensure the stability of future releases. I would agree with that philosophy up to a point. It is definitely a matter of personal preference; however, for myself, I NEVER install version X.0 of any software if said software is to be used in a mission critical situation. I always wait until X.1 is released. If possible in your case, would it be feasible to wait until 9.1 is released? You can gather some info on it here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html. As usual, any correlation between the expected release date and the actual date is purely coincidental. Just my 2¢ on the matter. not disagreeing per se..but just a reminder that with the excellent freebsd-update you get updates to 9.0 quickly ( i hadn't realised there was 61 already) from a new install earlier tonight Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. Fetching 61 patches.102030405060 done. Paul. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to speed up port make??
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:02:37 -0700 (PDT), Mr U wrote: hi is it possible to speed up port make ?? i want to install openbox and xorg on a Pentium 4 and 2gb ram, compiling xorg takes about 2 hours That's a fully normal make time on such a system. I've been experiencing it on FreeBSD 5 and 7 (with ATA disks and 768 MB SDR-SDRAM). There is no real way to speed it up, except to replace the hard disk with a SSD. But that's only for I/O, not for compiling itself. You also won't benefit from using the -j parameter (maximum number of jobs), because the P4 does not seem to support it. There's not much you can do to improve the system performance. You _can_ few things to streamline the system, but that won't be a _significant_ change. Plan your builds to take place when you don't use the system interactively, or use the nice command to give building a lower priority. It will last longer, but can be run in the background without noticing it. Don't complain about build times until you compile world and kernel on a 150 MHz Pentium 1 with 64 MB RAM. :-) To give you some impressions of real-work build times, see those examples: FreeBSD 5, 500 MHz P2 system: # make buildkernel KERNCONF 1:11 # make buildworld 3:54 FreeBSD 5, 2 GHz P4 system: # make buildworld buildkernel 2:13 # make buildworld 1:58 # make buildkernel KERNCONF=* 0:25 # make installkernel KERNCONF=* 30s On the same system: A portupgrade of XFree86 server: 2:12 And mplayer including nearly all options: 1:19 FreeBSD 7, 2 GHz P4 system: # make buildkernel KERNCONF=* 1:05 # make buildworld 3:54 Even worse: # time make buildkernel KERNCONF=* -D USBDEBUG 18232.967u 2427.404s 7:19:49.24 78.2% 391+379k 47250+5754io 3049pf+0w # time make buildworld buildkernel KERNCONF=* 18992.839u 2569.146s 9:12:00.28 65.1% 927+762k 25593+6358io 2506pf+0w (No idea how I got _that_ time!) # time make buildworld buildkernel KERNCONF=* 17272.243u 2294.595s 6:01:33.44 90.1% 24+204k 34888+6367io 2911pf+0w 18541.285u 2596.192s 6:19:33.55 92.8% 498+327k 31247+7302io 3034pf+0w 19725.009u 2882.355s 7:39:11.57 82.0% -875+548k 44987+6963io 2950pf+0w -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to determine the temperature of your CPU?
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:55:00 +0300, Владислав Продан wrote: CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor(3110.49-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x600f12 Family = 15 Model = 1 Stepping = 2 # kldstat -v | grep temp 319 cpu/coretemp 311 hostb/amdtemp There are programs in ports like mbmon and xmbmon to easily output the CPU temperature values. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: how to speed up port make??
Got you beat. Compiled world on a 100MHz Pentium with 40 MB of RAM. I gave up after 4 days and just went with prebuilt after that. -Sean -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Polytropon Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 6:54 PM To: Mr U Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd org Subject: Re: how to speed up port make?? On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:02:37 -0700 (PDT), Mr U wrote: hi is it possible to speed up port make ?? i want to install openbox and xorg on a Pentium 4 and 2gb ram, compiling xorg takes about 2 hours That's a fully normal make time on such a system. I've been experiencing it on FreeBSD 5 and 7 (with ATA disks and 768 MB SDR-SDRAM). There is no real way to speed it up, except to replace the hard disk with a SSD. But that's only for I/O, not for compiling itself. You also won't benefit from using the -j parameter (maximum number of jobs), because the P4 does not seem to support it. There's not much you can do to improve the system performance. You _can_ few things to streamline the system, but that won't be a _significant_ change. Plan your builds to take place when you don't use the system interactively, or use the nice command to give building a lower priority. It will last longer, but can be run in the background without noticing it. Don't complain about build times until you compile world and kernel on a 150 MHz Pentium 1 with 64 MB RAM. :-) To give you some impressions of real-work build times, see those examples: FreeBSD 5, 500 MHz P2 system: # make buildkernel KERNCONF 1:11 # make buildworld 3:54 FreeBSD 5, 2 GHz P4 system: # make buildworld buildkernel 2:13 # make buildworld 1:58 # make buildkernel KERNCONF=* 0:25 # make installkernel KERNCONF=* 30s On the same system: A portupgrade of XFree86 server: 2:12 And mplayer including nearly all options: 1:19 FreeBSD 7, 2 GHz P4 system: # make buildkernel KERNCONF=* 1:05 # make buildworld 3:54 Even worse: # time make buildkernel KERNCONF=* -D USBDEBUG 18232.967u 2427.404s 7:19:49.24 78.2% 391+379k 47250+5754io 3049pf+0w # time make buildworld buildkernel KERNCONF=* 18992.839u 2569.146s 9:12:00.28 65.1% 927+762k 25593+6358io 2506pf+0w (No idea how I got _that_ time!) # time make buildworld buildkernel KERNCONF=* 17272.243u 2294.595s 6:01:33.44 90.1% 24+204k 34888+6367io 2911pf+0w 18541.285u 2596.192s 6:19:33.55 92.8% 498+327k 31247+7302io 3034pf+0w 19725.009u 2882.355s 7:39:11.57 82.0% -875+548k 44987+6963io 2950pf+0w -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to speed up port make??
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:59:56 -0400, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: Got you beat. Compiled world on a 100MHz Pentium with 40 MB of RAM. I think I can: FreeBSD 4 on a Pentium 1 with 64 MB EDO RAM. The make buildworld took 24 hours. The kernel itself, if I remember correctly, required 3-5 hours, of course without much tweaking. :-) I gave up after 4 days and just went with prebuilt after that. Precompiled packages are very helpful on such systems. Only top level ports that _need_ compiling should be touched (e. g. mplayer due to the options). With today's FreeBSD OS, you can do many things by control files (loader.conf et al.) which previously required at least rebuilding the kernel (e. g. firewall, divert). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to determine the temperature of your CPU?
26.07.2012 1:55, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:55:00 +0300, Владислав Продан wrote: CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor(3110.49-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x600f12 Family = 15 Model = 1 Stepping = 2 # kldstat -v | grep temp 319 cpu/coretemp 311 hostb/amdtemp There are programs in ports like mbmon and xmbmon to easily output the CPU temperature values. Thank you! mbmon shows the temperature of the CPU. -- Vladislav V. Prodan System Network Administrator http://support.od.ua +380 67 4584408, +380 99 4060508 VVP88-RIPE ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mail(1) save command does not work as in the man page
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Jul 25 10:47:21 2012 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:44:02 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mail(1) save command does not work as in the man page According to the man mail(1): save(s) Takes a message list and a filename and appends each message in turn to the end of the file. The filename in quotes, followed by the line count and character count is echoed on the user's terminal. However, it seems the mail is copied, but not deleted on exit: *SOMETIMES* that is true. grin $ mail -f mbox Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. mbox: 1 message 1 me...@bristol.ac.uk Wed Jul 25 16:36 46/2045 kuku s 1 somefile somefile [New file] h * 1 me...@bristol.ac.uk Wed Jul 25 16:36 46/2045 kuku q $ mail -f somefile Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. somefile: 1 message 1 me...@bristol.ac.uk Wed Jul 25 16:36 46/2045 kuku q So the mail was copied to somefile file, as expected. However, it's still in mbox file too: $ mail -f mbox Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. mbox: 1 message 1 me...@bristol.ac.uk Wed Jul 25 16:36 46/2045 kuku q $ This shouldn't happen. According to the man page the expected behaviour is that message 1 should be deleted from mbox on quit. Any comments? This is the 'standard'/*EXPECTED* behavior of 'mail', and has been, since the early 1980s. (I still use 'mail' as my standard mail client'.) If invoked _without_ specifying a maibox, 1) mail that is written to another mailbox is deleted from the inbox on exit. 2) mail that was read, but _not_ written/deleted is saved to 'mbox'. If invoked *WITH* '-f', messages are not deleted/moved on exit. you must _explicitly_ perform any desired actions. You've found a bug in the _documentation_, not the progam. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: geli - selecting cipher
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Jul 25 14:00:27 2012 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:57:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: geli - selecting cipher i need high speed disk encryption (many disks running in parallel, lots of data movement). i have processor with AES-NI. geli give 150MB/s performance (tested from/to md ramdisk) using default and recommended AES-XTS and ca 400MB/s read and 700MB/s write using AES-CBC. I'm not cryptography expert, is CBC somehow less secure, and if so is it really a problem? If you don't know what strength encryption you need, and/or the difference between the methods, you need to hire a data-security professional to examine your situation and make recommendations appropriate for _your_ needs. 'CBC' -- [C]ypher [B]lock [C]hainig -- is well-suited for strictly -sequential- data access. Try reading the blocks of a large (say 10gB) file in *reverse* order and see what kind of performance you get. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to speed up port make??
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Jul 25 16:34:22 2012 From: Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:31:14 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to speed up port make?? Anton Shterenlikht writes: i want to install openbox and xorg on a Pentium 4 and 2gb ram, compiling xorg takes about 2 hours 2 hours only?? Try lang/gcc46 or 47 or science/paraview snort I beiieve the winner is OpenOffice and its kindred; still compiling after 2.75 hours on 4x3ghz and 8gbytes memory. The various Javas also take a while A standard-techniques -build of just a custom kernel (FBSD 6) took me over TWENTY hours On a 80486/dx2 with 64 megs of Ram. I didn't even -think- about 'buildworld'. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: geli - selecting cipher
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:52:39 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Jul 25 14:00:27 2012 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:57:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: geli - selecting cipher i need high speed disk encryption (many disks running in parallel, lots of data movement). i have processor with AES-NI. geli give 150MB/s performance (tested from/to md ramdisk) using default and recommended AES-XTS and ca 400MB/s read and 700MB/s write using AES-CBC. I'm not cryptography expert, is CBC somehow less secure, and if so is it really a problem? If you don't know what strength encryption you need, and/or the difference between the methods, you need to hire a data-security professional to examine your situation and make recommendations appropriate for _your_ needs. 'CBC' -- [C]ypher [B]lock [C]hainig -- is well-suited for strictly -sequential- data access. Try reading the blocks of a large (say 10gB) file in *reverse* order and see what kind of performance you get. Exactly the same, in geli the encryption is done per sector. I asked a similar questions to the OPs in the geom list and didn't get an answer. Geli doesn't need or isn't using any advantages of XTS. And CBC in geli is actually equivalent to ESSIV (see the previously linked wikipedia page). In the end I went with 128 bit aes-cbc since it's the fastest setting and Bruce Schneier recommends 128 over 256 AES as being more secure. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to speed up port make??
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 08:41:15PM -0400, kpn...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 01:06:33AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:59:56 -0400, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: Got you beat. Compiled world on a 100MHz Pentium with 40 MB of RAM. I think I can: FreeBSD 4 on a Pentium 1 with 64 MB EDO RAM. The make buildworld took 24 hours. The kernel itself, if I remember correctly, required 3-5 hours, of course without much tweaking. :-) Luxury! I once compiled a custom kernel of NetBSD/i386 on a 486 with 8MB of RAM. I was stuck with the GENERIC kernel which took up over 6MB just to boot. It took over 40 days to finish. To be fair it didn't help that I had to move out of my apartment in the middle. So it took some time for make to refigure out where had been in the build. Heck, we used to compile gcc and watch movies. It took three movies to get through a full recursive compile of gcc. Yep, 6 hours. And then there was that occasion one night watching a guy logged into an Ultrix box: Raise your hand if you've ever seen 'ps' report that it had itself been swapped out. Yep, again. Ah, good times. I think I still have some memory _chips_ (zip scrams, not dips) around here somewhere You kids have got it easy. I used to have to compile by hand with a pair of tweezers, bar copper wire, a magnifying glass, and a potato with two pieces of metal stuck in it as a power source. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to speed up port make??
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 08:33:36PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: You kids have got it easy. I used to have to compile by hand with a pair of tweezers, bar copper wire, a magnifying glass, and a potato with two pieces of metal stuck in it as a power source. s/bar/bare/ Now let me tell you how we used to have to do our regexing. . . . -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
