Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, James D. Parra wrote: I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. If don't want to make the full commitment to building a desktop, a good way to learn about FreeBSD is to install within a virtual machine. Either VMWare or VirtualBox will serve you well. If you have a system you want to try you can also check out http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.
The pcbsd project which uses FreeBSD is another option. On Aug 20, 2012 11:31 PM, d...@safeport.com wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, James D. Parra wrote: I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. If don't want to make the full commitment to building a desktop, a good way to learn about FreeBSD is to install within a virtual machine. Either VMWare or VirtualBox will serve you well. If you have a system you want to try you can also check out http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/**freebsd/index.htmlhttp://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html . __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:42 PM, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: Good thought, I just did that. Results: php5.3: works fine as far as I can tell php5.4: fails in random ways This suggests there is a bug in 5.4 which only is apparent on FreeBSD 8.x. I note that the packages for 8.x have gone away on the distribution server, so I expect they're not regression testing 8.x any more Packages?? It's better for you to use the ports tree! Ahem. If you will review the messages to which you were responding, you will note that yes, I did build everything from the ports tree. My point is that since they're not building 8.3 packages any more, they're not validating updated ports against 8.3 any more. Sorry, you confused me there a little, by talking about packages. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem
On 08/20/12 16:42, Mark Felder wrote: Those in on the core teams here are very well aware. Did you notice we've survived this long without ALSA? :-) However, this is very good reading for anyone who hasn't looked at Linux lately, and it's worth mentioning that this is snowballing quickly. I used to really like some Linux distros. I've been working closely with FreeBSD for 3 years now and after watching Linux change in those 3 years from this distance I'm not sure I want to go back. Everything that originally excited me about *nix operating systems is gone; it's a big convoluted mess now. This isn't a good sign and I hope someone has the sense enough to stand their ground and tell RedHat/Poettering NO. TEAR DOWN THIS WALL, MR GORB^H^H^H^HPOETTERING I had the honor to meet that Mr. Poettering in person at a conference a while ago and tried to discuss the portability issues caused by the imminent proliferation of an over-engineered and unnecessary subsystem like systemd. My conclusion was that the guy talks a lot and never listens (mirroring his on-line behavior) and in general is a type of guy I had rather see in the enemy camp, instead of in the ranks of a (in my case) valued business partner. Also, he appears to have practically free reign within Red Hat, where currently nobody seems to have a clear overview of the OS related issues and system initialization is considered a minor technical feature. So I don't think you should expect Mr. Poettering to tear down any walls any time soon 8-) I can only hope that FreeBSD and the leftover systemd averse Linux distros can prevent higher level subsystems (like Xorg, KDE, Xfce, etc) to depend too much on current and future systemd features. Maybe this is an opportunity for the mostly invisible core team of FreeBSD to publicly take a position here, if only to take away concerns of users with respect to systemd portability issues in the future. Kind regards, Hans Ottevanger ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3
Le 21 août 2012 à 04:10, John Levine a écrit : Are you running pecl-APC? If so, what version? There's a major issue with the latest. Hmmn, that might have been it. I backed down to 5.3, but when I have a chance I'll try 5.4 again without APC. Tried it without APC, didn't help. We're back to the theory that there's something in PHP 5.4.5 that builds OK on 9.0 but not on 8.x. I suggest that you start with a fresh php.ini file in order to have up to date values. If you have compiled it with cli, you can post the output of php -v here so we can figure out more precisely what is going on with your install… I am running PHP 5.4.5 on 7.4 without problem - I had problem upon install, but they all came from php.ini not beeing up to date (AFAIR). Thx. R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org –– - Grégory Bernard Director - --- www.osnet.eu --- -- Your provider of OpenSource appliances -- –– OSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetO ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, d...@safeport.com wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, James D. Parra wrote: I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. If don't want to make the full commitment to building a desktop, a good way to learn about FreeBSD is to install within a virtual machine. Either VMWare or VirtualBox will serve you well. If you have a system you want to try you can also check out http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html. That is a great resource for laptops, too bad it isn't mentioned in the Handbook compatibility chapter. We have purchased many desktop motherboards for FreeBSD over the years, from Intel, Gigabyte, ASUS, MSI and others. None mentioned FreeBSD compatibility, none was on any list promising FreeBSD compatibility and none has failed to boot and run well. That said, rarely the onboard ethernet has not been recognized and we had to add a PCI NIC until the next version of FreeBSD included the proper drivers. No NIC has ever been incompatible in our experience. We have not ever tested APM or ACPI, and if you follow the newsgroup you will know that those are sometimes problematic. Notice how few laptops support APM or ACPI with FreeBSD. Also, while onboard video has always worked for us, some people will notice that the drivers do not always provide the full performance available in Windows. We have not found the Handbook compatibility list very helpful. The list is mostly by chip, which card vendors don't mention in their literature. It would be nice to see a list of currently available products, by retail model number. That doesn't exist as far as I can tell. So it comes down mostly to your feelings about those issues. If you will be upset by less than optimal 3D graphics perforance, there is a risk. Otherwise, don't worry. But why order parts? If you want to learn FreeBSD, just take any old windows box and install FreeBSD over the existing windows install. It will work fine and won't cost you anything. daniel feenberg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
start kernel
i am beginning to question how computers work. i am using darwin 10.0.0. is there a place or way that i can get a thoroughly commented kernel of this version of unix so that i can learn from it and ask inteligent questions. i think this would be a good place to start from. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.
Daniel Feenberg writes: But why order parts? If you want to learn FreeBSD, just take any old windows box and install FreeBSD over the existing windows install. It will work fine and won't cost you anything. This was (close to) my gut reaction. If all you want it the learning experience, any machine made in the last 10 (15?) years that can install Windows can probably install FreeBSD. If/when you get past that and want (e,g,) a: high performance gaming box file server router/firewall high availability web server ... now we're talking about specific hardware. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building a computer for FreeBSD
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Erich Dollansky wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:43:35 -0400 Tyler Campbell ty...@tristatesafeandlock.com wrote: Is there a list of parts for building a personal computer or do you just read through the hardware list? if you use big names like Asus, nothing should go wrong. I would avoid Intel's integrated graphics. As the support for it is not as advanced as for other graphic solutions, this could give you the wrong impression. Huh? On FreeBSD, Intel video is the only one that supports KMS, the latest thing in xorg. Of course the Intel video is not the fastest, but that's due to the hardware. AMD/ATI Radeon HDs up to the 4000-series support acceleration with FreeBSD's version of xorg. 4650 and 4850 cards are suggested. The NVidia cards are also used by many, and reportedly their binary-only driver offers higher performance than other options. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building a computer for FreeBSD
Hi, On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 07:04:03 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Erich Dollansky wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:43:35 -0400 Tyler Campbell ty...@tristatesafeandlock.com wrote: Is there a list of parts for building a personal computer or do you just read through the hardware list? if you use big names like Asus, nothing should go wrong. I would avoid Intel's integrated graphics. As the support for it is not as advanced as for other graphic solutions, this could give you the wrong impression. Huh? On FreeBSD, Intel video is the only one that supports KMS, the will the limitations help a beginner? Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: start kernel
Hi, Reference: From: blank blank gangl...@asia.com Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:11:35 -0400 Message-id: 20120821061135.210...@gmx.com blank blank wrote: i am beginning to question how computers work. i am using darwin 10.0.0. is there a place or way that i can get a thoroughly commented kernel of this version of unix so that i can learn from it and ask inteligent questions. i think this would be a good place to start from. FreeBSD ( other BSDs Linuxes all) offer full sources on web ftp sites. See http://www.freebsd.org download. There's various books. Books are inevitably behind (older than) the latest sources. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from Yahoo Hotmail to be dumped @Berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: doom, quake, hexen...
Victor Sudakov wrote: Try games/deng. This one would not run out of the box either: Yuri, you are the maintainer of the games/deng port. What great luck! I have contacted the deng forum about deng not working and they said the software is too old: http://dengine.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7t=1176 Do you care to update the port, perhaps the new deng will work? [sudakov@vas ~] deng -game jdoom -file tmp/DOOM.WAD Z_Create: New 32.0 MB memory volume. determineGlobalPaths: Base path = /usr/local/share/deng/ Con_Init: Initializing the console. Executable: Version 1.9.0-beta6.9 Aug 21 2012 (DGL). Sys_InitWindowManager: Using SDL window management. While opening dynamic library /usr/local/lib/libjdoom.so: /usr/local/lib/libjdoom.so: Undefined symbol Con_AddCommand loadGamePlugin: Loading of libjdoom.so failed ((null)). Error loading game library.Z_Shutdown: Used 1 volumes, total 33554432 bytes. [sudakov@vas ~] -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: doom, quake, hexen...
Josh Tolbert wrote: games/quake2max is a good one...At least it was years ago when I tried it. I see nothing in the Makefile that will prevent it from building on amd64. Josh, I must be especially out of luck, it dumps core. Script started on Tue Aug 21 20:29:49 2012 [sudakov@vas ~] quake2max^M Added packfile /usr/local/share/quake2/baseq2/pak0.pak (1106 files) Added packfile /usr/local/lib/quake2max/baseq2/maxpak.pak (118 files) Using '/home/sudakov/.quake2/baseq2' for writing. execing default.cfg couldn't exec maxconfig Console initialized. --- sound initialization --- sound sampling rate: 44100 --- Loading rfx_glx.so --- LoadLibrary(/usr/local/lib/quake2max/rfx_glx.so) rfx_gl version: GL 0.01 ... Using stencil buffer Initializing OpenGL display ...setting fullscreen mode 3: 640 480 Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.2 Using hardware gamma GL_VENDOR: Tungsten Graphics, Inc GL_RENDERER: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Desktop GL_VERSION: 2.1 Mesa 7.11.2 GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_ARB_multisample GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_logic_op GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_b ...allowing CDS ...enabling GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array ...using GL_EXT_point_parameters ...using GL_ARB_multitexture ...GL_SGIS_multitexture not found ...using GL_ARB_texture_env_combine ...GL_NV_texture_shader not found ...using GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap ...ignoring GL_ARB_texture_compression Segmentation fault (core dumped) [sudakov@vas ~] exit Script done on Tue Aug 21 20:30:06 2012 -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.
If you have a system you want to try you can also check out http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html. That is a great resource for laptops, too bad it isn't mentioned in the Handbook compatibility chapter. Suggestion: send-pr Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from Yahoo Hotmail to be dumped @Berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building a computer for FreeBSD
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 07:04:03 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Erich Dollansky wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:43:35 -0400 Tyler Campbell ty...@tristatesafeandlock.com wrote: Is there a list of parts for building a personal computer or do you just read through the hardware list? if you use big names like Asus, nothing should go wrong. I would avoid Intel's integrated graphics. As the support for it is not as advanced as for other graphic solutions, this could give you the wrong impression. Huh? On FreeBSD, Intel video is the only one that supports KMS, the will the limitations help a beginner? The lack of console switching, you mean? For a desktop machine, probably not seriously. Certainly the support for new Intel video hardware would be an advantage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Problem with r-o access in jail
Want a nullfs filesystem to be read-only for tech people to search-only maillog files. host machine's files: /var/log/mx1/maillog* files the maillog files are all 644 and r bit is set all along the path using ezjail jail root is /var/jails jail name is fixit mkdir -p /var/jails/fixit/mx1 fixit/mx1 dir has 644 and r bit is set all along the path mount_nullfs -o ro /var/log/mx1 /var/jails/fixit/mx1 ezjail-admin console fixit as fixit jail root user I add a user fixit:fixit ssh logon to fixit jail's ip as user fixit ll /mx1 gives nothing but: ls: maillog.45.bz2: Permission denied ls: maillog.46.bz2: Permission denied ls: maillog.47.bz2: Permission denied ls: maillog.48.bz2: Permission denied ls: maillog.49.bz2: Permission denied ls: maillog.5.bz2: Permission denied ls: maillog.50.bz2: Permission denied ls: maillog.51.bz2: Permission denied ezjail-admin console fixit ...shows the /mx1/maillog* files all to be 644 If move the jail fixit user from group fixit to group wheel, user fixit has access to /mx1/maillog* files. suggestions? thanks, Len ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ruby: Cannot create main thread
Hi I have an old machine running 7.3-STABLE. I tried to install portupgrade from ports, but installation failed on ruby dependency with message Cannot create main thread. I then just pkg_add'ed ruby. Now when I simply run ruby in the console it dies with the same message. What could be the reason? How do I make it work? KERNCONF file: include GENERIC ident MASCOT # To make an SMP kernel, the next line is needed options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel device intpm device smbus device smb options IPFIREWALL # Firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE # Print information about options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD options IPSTEALTH # Support stealth forwarding options IPDIVERT# Divert IP sockets options DUMMYNET# Bandwidth limiter # netgraph options options HZ=1000 options NETGRAPH options NETGRAPH_PPPOE options NETGRAPH_SOCKET options NETGRAPH_CISCO options NETGRAPH_ECHO options NETGRAPH_FRAME_RELAY options NETGRAPH_HOLE options NETGRAPH_KSOCKET options NETGRAPH_LMI options NETGRAPH_RFC1490 options NETGRAPH_TTY options NETGRAPH_ASYNC options NETGRAPH_BPF options NETGRAPH_ETHER options NETGRAPH_IFACE options NETGRAPH_KSOCKET options NETGRAPH_L2TP options NETGRAPH_MPPC_ENCRYPTION options NETGRAPH_PPP options NETGRAPH_PPTPGRE options NETGRAPH_TEE options NETGRAPH_UI options NETGRAPH_VJC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.0 release hang in quiescent X [Solved]
Having run for a couple of days now without problems, I'm guardedly optimistic I've solved this problem. It appears the problem had nothing to do with screen blanking. The solution was to disable memory mapping in BIOS, whose purpose is to recover the memory addresses reserved for hardware in old PC architectures. It means some memory will never be used, but that's better than a hang. http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20110131214116581board_id=1model=M4A89TD+PRO%2fUSB3page=1SLanguage=en-us Gary On 08/19/12 14:25, Gary Aitken wrote: On 08/19/12 10:11, Ian Smith wrote: In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 428, Issue 7, Message: 4 On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:51:07 -0600 Gary Aitken free...@dreamchaser.org wrote: On 08/16/12 00:04, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 16/08/2012 05:45, Gary Aitken wrote: ... Running 9.0 release on an amd 64 box, standard kernel, 16GB, SSD (/, /usr, /var, /tmp) + HDDs, visiontek 900331 graphics card (ati radeon hd5550). As long as I am using the system, things seem to be fine. However, when I leave the system idle for an extended period of time (e.g. overnight, out for the day, etc.), it often refuses to return from whatever state it is in. The screen is blank and in standby for power saving, and ctlalt Fn won't get me a console prompt. The only way I know to recover is to power off and reboot. ... Can someone suggest a good way to proceed to figure out what's going on? Can you get network access to the machine when it gets into this state? I enabled remote logins and when the system hangs, I can neither log in nor ping it. I can do both of those prior to a hang. Hi Gary. Please wrap text less than 80 columns on freebsd lists; I was going to reply to a later message but it had got too messy. Turned out this one is more useful anyway, so I've taken the liberty .. will do. Wasn't sure what was considered the right thing to do, as I regularly get messages which when quoted run out as single lines. As to working out what the underlying cause of the problem is: that's harder. I'd try experimenting with the power saving settings for your graphics display. If you can turn them off as a test, and the machine then survives for an extended period of idleness, you'll have gone a long way towards isolating the problem. Have you yet tried turning off any and all power saving settings, until your monitor quits blanking/suspending, and the machine keeps running? Doing that test now. The monitor isn't blanking by itself, BIOS suspend power off settings for screen, disk etc shouldn't affect a running FreeBSD system (but turn them off anyway!) - so we're left with something you've set yourself, presumably via your (which?) window manager, which then has Xorg, using your hardware's particular driver, do the dirty work on the hardware. I'm currently using xfce4. Just that it's not clear you've yet isolated the main suspect. There's buggy hardware, buggy ACPI/BIOS implementations, buggy video drivers; it makes sense to rule out another hardware problem by leaving video on. ... Something you set is doing it :) If running say KDE, suspects would include screen'savers' (as many have mentioned), window manager power settings (setting/peripherals/display/powercontrol on kde3), and lastly as Warren mentioned, settings for Xorg itself, in xorg.conf (if any). It appears the screen blanking is a result of xorg's default 10 min BlankTime default, which I've turned off. I found this reference to possible issues with memory hole remapping, which I will also check into: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20110131214116581board_id=1model=M4A89TD+PRO%2fUSB3page=1SLanguage=en-us That actually seems more likely to be the problem Many thanks for your explanations Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.0 release hang in quiescent X [Solved]
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 09:54:14 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: Having run for a couple of days now without problems, I'm guardedly optimistic I've solved this problem. It appears the problem had nothing to do with screen blanking. The solution was to disable memory mapping in BIOS, whose purpose is to recover the memory addresses reserved for hardware in old PC architectures. It means some memory will never be used, but that's better than a hang. http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20110131214116581board_id=1model=M4A89TD+PRO%2fUSB3page=1SLanguage=en-us That's great news Gary, good hunting. I read that forum post, which did look worth trying. Whether it's a BIOS bug or just something to watch out for I don't know, but it seems to be a trap for the unwary; so many BIOS settings are poorly explained. Those guys were losing 768MB or more, but had plenty to spare. You? I'm still running an older Xorg here, so had no idea about any default 10 minute blanktime. I'll remember that .. [..] cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Double boot
i had same error after some updates and fixed it with fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0/device/ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html On 08/17/12 06:55, p...@sanciai.lt wrote: Hello, I have installed FreeBSD 8.3 to Toshiba Satellite besides Windows XP. Unix boots ok, but I can't reach Windows anymore! It shows: F1 Win F2 FreeBSD F6 PXE Boot F1 - If I press F1, it stays hanging forever. I'm relatively new to FreeBSD. Please, advise which way to go out of this situation. When I rerun sysinstall, there is a warning: chunk 'ad0s2' [179380224..234441647] does not start on a track boundary (the chunk of FreeBSD) How to change the boundary of chunk? CDROM is not reachable, something happened to it. I can use only FreeBSD instruments. Which of them? Thanks in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3
bsd wrote: Le 21 août 2012 à 04:10, John Levine a écrit : Are you running pecl-APC? If so, what version? There's a major issue with the latest. Hmmn, that might have been it. I backed down to 5.3, but when I have a chance I'll try 5.4 again without APC. Tried it without APC, didn't help. We're back to the theory that there's something in PHP 5.4.5 that builds OK on 9.0 but not on 8.x. I suggest that you start with a fresh php.ini file in order to have up to date values. If you have compiled it with cli, you can post the output of php -v here so we can figure out more precisely what is going on with your install… I am running PHP 5.4.5 on 7.4 without problem - I had problem upon install, but they all came from php.ini not beeing up to date (AFAIR). I have seen at one time or another a problem with the order modules were loaded in php.ini occur. One thing I noticed is if/when this happens you see modules completely fail to load in the error log, as opposed to module(s) that do load but then segfault when called by PHP code. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Repeaters [off topic]
I'm using a repeater to grab a wireless signal and pass it to my local (wired) lan. For various reasons I won't go into a repeater is, in theory, the best way to do this. However, I'm having trouble finding a repeater that isn't garbage. I've been through 2 Linksys units, both of which required constant reboots and both of which died after almost exactly a year. I tried a Hawking HWREN1 which is still working after slightly more than a year but has trouble with encrypted traffic and also requires frequent reboots. I also tried a Hawking HW2R1, which was much less flaky than the HWREN1 and handled encrypted traffic OK, but died after about 3 months. Since these things cost $100-$140 apiece, it would be cost effective to to pay more for a unit that worked consistently and didn't die after a few months of light use. Has anyone on the list used a repeater that they had good experience with? Bob Hall ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Repeaters [off topic]
How about overlaying the lynksys OS with something like ddwrt Sent from my HTC. - Reply message - From: Bob Hall musikte...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2012 12:30 pm Subject: Repeaters [off topic] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org I'm using a repeater to grab a wireless signal and pass it to my local (wired) lan. For various reasons I won't go into a repeater is, in theory, the best way to do this. However, I'm having trouble finding a repeater that isn't garbage. I've been through 2 Linksys units, both of which required constant reboots and both of which died after almost exactly a year. I tried a Hawking HWREN1 which is still working after slightly more than a year but has trouble with encrypted traffic and also requires frequent reboots. I also tried a Hawking HW2R1, which was much less flaky than the HWREN1 and handled encrypted traffic OK, but died after about 3 months. Since these things cost $100-$140 apiece, it would be cost effective to to pay more for a unit that worked consistently and didn't die after a few months of light use. Has anyone on the list used a repeater that they had good experience with? Bob Hall ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.0 release hang in quiescent X [Solved]
On 08/21/12 10:22, Ian Smith wrote: Those guys were losing 768MB or more, but had plenty to spare. You? 16G so not a big problem, but that doesn't mean I like giving it away... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Double boot
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:58:51 +0200, lokada...@gmx.de wrote: i had same error after some updates and fixed it with fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0/device/ ^ ^ lokademus malquoted command. rectify. :-) The source you've provided at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html mentions: # fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device where device is the boot device where the MBR should be written to (e. g. /dev/ad0). Either /boot/mbr or /boot/boot0 can be passed as -b parameter, installing a standard MBR or the boot0 boot manager. See man fdisk for details, as well as man boot0cfg. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 09:42:32AM -0500, Mark Felder wrote: Those in on the core teams here are very well aware. Did you notice we've survived this long without ALSA? :-) However, this is very good reading for anyone who hasn't looked at Linux lately, and it's worth mentioning that this is snowballing quickly. I used to really like some Linux distros. I've been working closely with FreeBSD for 3 years now and after watching Linux change in those 3 years from this distance I'm not sure I want to go back. Everything that originally excited me about *nix operating systems is gone; it's a big convoluted mess now. This isn't a good sign and I hope someone has the sense enough to stand their ground and tell RedHat/Poettering NO. TEAR DOWN THIS WALL, MR GORB^H^H^H^HPOETTERING Hallelujah. Poettering and his ilk represent the gravest threat to the Linux ecosystem I've ever seen. I switched from Debian to FreeBSD in late 2005 or early 2006, having not touched FreeBSD much before that. Early the year before last year, I got a laptop and discovered that I should have paid more attention to what I was buying, because at the time FreeBSD didn't support the laptop's graphics. I thought Well, Debian isn't as nice as FreeBSD, but it was pretty good, so I'll use that. Ever since then, I've spent uncounted hours writing hackish wrapper code to paper over the disaster area that is system management in the Linux world now. I wrote an article for TechRepublic about some of my experiences (and other gripes about the Linux world after five years away from it) titled NetworkManager, the Fifth Horseman of the Apocalinux. The more we can avoid code written by Poettering and anything remotely like it, the better off we will be, I'm sure. Luckily, he wants to help us; he has stated that he believes writing quality, portable code somehow hinders innovation, and as such he goes out of his way to avoid portability concerns. Good riddance. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Twitter.com is loading slowly after updating to Firefox 13.0.1
Tue, 17 Jul 2012 kirjutas Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Toomas Aas wrote: Hello! I'm having this problem on two different computers, one running 8.3-STABLE and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox from 12.0 to 13.0.1, whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but after that a message appears saying that Twitter.com is loading slowly, and the site is practically unusable - clicking on any of the links has no effect. If you do not know that there is something in firefox (now 13ish) which you must have, deinstall it and install firefox-esr (now 10ish). I was away from my computer for the past month, but now that I returned and replaced Firefox 13.0.1 with 10.0.6 ESR, twitter.com is again behaving normally for me. I'd like to thank everyone who recommended ESR in this thread -- Toomas Aas twitter.com/toomasaas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ToS marking in pf
17.08.2012, 20:54, Darren Baginski kick...@yandex.ru: Hi list! Could you please point me how can I set DSCP/TOS bits for outgoing packets using pf ? I would like to mark all packets going to the specific port marked with DSCP CS3. Can't believe no one is aware.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Twitter.com is loading slowly after updating to Firefox 13.0.1
[ Toomas Aas wrote on Tue 21.Aug'12 at 23:48:56 +0300 ] Tue, 17 Jul 2012 kirjutas Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Toomas Aas wrote: Hello! I'm having this problem on two different computers, one running 8.3-STABLE and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox from 12.0 to 13.0.1, whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but after that a message appears saying that Twitter.com is loading slowly, and the site is practically unusable - clicking on any of the links has no effect. If you do not know that there is something in firefox (now 13ish) which you must have, deinstall it and install firefox-esr (now 10ish). I was away from my computer for the past month, but now that I returned and replaced Firefox 13.0.1 with 10.0.6 ESR, twitter.com is again behaving normally for me. I'd like to thank everyone who recommended ESR in this thread I'm running 9 stable and Firefox 14 and i've just logged into Twitter and there are no issue at all: it's performing well. Anyway, you've sorted your problem so that's the main thing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:09 AM, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, here is an interesting comment (basically echoing other people's view) on Linux developments: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120820 Reader Comments 1 o Arch and systemd (by Microlinux on 2012-08-20 10:11:39 GMT from France) Much has been said on the subject of Systemd. Let me quote Eric Hameleers, one of Slackware's developers. [...] systemd is essentially evil. It is invasive, extremely hostile to other environments, threatening to kill non-Linux ecosystems which have hal, udev, dbus, consolekit, polkit, udisks, upower and friends as dependencies. And every iteration of the software written by the Redhat employees who are responsible for hal, udev, consiolekit, polkit and now systemd are incompatible with previous releases, re-implementing their bad ideas with new bad ideas... basically proving that these Redhat employees must be declared unfit to work on the core of a Linux distro. However, the influence of their employer is so big that these products are forced upon the wider UNIX community and at some point it will be assimilate or die. I hope we (Slackware) will find a way where we do not have to assimilate but still manage to keep the distro working. I have high hopes for KDE which has no Redhat ties and so far, manages to stay clear of this mess, sticking to widely accepted standards. Cheers from a Slackware user. For those of you who are unfamiliar - systemd is a replacement for SysV, LSB, and Upstart init subsystem scripts. Together with some other technologies like GNOME 3 (soon GNOME OS ?) they are aiming at being Microsoft-like Linux distro (soon OS ?). On my FreeBSD machine: $ ls /var/db/pkg/ ... hal-0.5.14_19/ dbus-1.4.14_i3/ consolekit-0.4.3/ polkit-0.99/ upower-0.9.7/ ... Also, once again I refer to Linux-related ports in *BSD ecosystem http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=linuxstype=all and warn against becoming entangled in affairs of Linux ecosystem. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I will throw in my two cents. Systemd sounds fine to me. I think that having additional features such as event based startup of scripts is something that is okay and not a problem. I think as long as systemd supports SysV init and BSD startup scripts, it is fine. Remember you are free to have your own startup scripts run from systemd. The fact is that systemd is more powerful, its features are available but no one is absolutely required to use every feature. I believe people here would rather complain about it rather than have FreeBSD support it, in the process making FreeBSD better. Instead of making FreeBSD better all they know how to do is criticize OSs that are trying to improve things. I dont think the complaints here have anything to do with a shortcoming of systemd, i think it has to do with people who would rather attack anyone who implements something that is more powerful than what FreeBSD provides, so FreeBSD does not have to compete with a better, more flexible alternative. There is nothing stopping FreeBSD from adding the dependancy system features that are needed by systemd so that FreeBSD can use it. Instead of complaining about Linux implementing something better, why not match it? No one is stopping FreeBSD from implementing its own BSD systemd program. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:20 PM, David Jackson djackson...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:09 AM, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, here is an interesting comment (basically echoing other people's view) on Linux developments: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120820 Reader Comments 1 o Arch and systemd (by Microlinux on 2012-08-20 10:11:39 GMT from France) Much has been said on the subject of Systemd. Let me quote Eric Hameleers, one of Slackware's developers. [...] systemd is essentially evil. It is invasive, extremely hostile to other environments, threatening to kill non-Linux ecosystems which have hal, udev, dbus, consolekit, polkit, udisks, upower and friends as dependencies. And every iteration of the software written by the Redhat employees who are responsible for hal, udev, consiolekit, polkit and now systemd are incompatible with previous releases, re-implementing their bad ideas with new bad ideas... basically proving that these Redhat employees must be declared unfit to work on the core of a Linux distro. However, the influence of their employer is so big that these products are forced upon the wider UNIX community and at some point it will be assimilate or die. I hope we (Slackware) will find a way where we do not have to assimilate but still manage to keep the distro working. I have high hopes for KDE which has no Redhat ties and so far, manages to stay clear of this mess, sticking to widely accepted standards. Cheers from a Slackware user. For those of you who are unfamiliar - systemd is a replacement for SysV, LSB, and Upstart init subsystem scripts. Together with some other technologies like GNOME 3 (soon GNOME OS ?) they are aiming at being Microsoft-like Linux distro (soon OS ?). On my FreeBSD machine: $ ls /var/db/pkg/ ... hal-0.5.14_19/ dbus-1.4.14_i3/ consolekit-0.4.3/ polkit-0.99/ upower-0.9.7/ ... Also, once again I refer to Linux-related ports in *BSD ecosystem http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=linuxstype=all and warn against becoming entangled in affairs of Linux ecosystem. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org In reference to the claims that systemd developers do not care about portability, this is deceptive and misleading. It implies that he is building in a dependance on intractable hardware platform dependance when this is absolutely not the case, there is no dependance on a hardware platform.There is nothing about systemd that FreeBSD could not easily support. Yes, his software does use system call facilities provided by Linux, but since this is a dependance on software systems, FreeBSD could easily add these facilities to its own libraries and kernel. This fact exposes what the complaints from some people are about, it has nothing to do with portability, because these issues can be easily addressed in software code by FreeBSD, it has to do with FreeBSD not wanting to implement equivalent functionality as Linux. The fact is, FreeBSD can fully support systemd and all kernel and system features, there is nothing here that is impossible for FreeBSD to support. By doing so, it would give users MORE freedom rather than less freedom. FreeBSD would not even be required to use systemd for its own bootup sequence, which can be BSD init scripts still, but, systemd could be made available on FreeBSD, called from FreeBSDs init scripts, for users that wants to use it. Some here would make it seem like it is impossible for FreeBSD to support systemd, nothing could be further from the truth. No one is stopping FreeBSD from implementing it or any other feature found in Linux. I carefully looked through the documentation of systemd, I could see nothing except for a well designed, powerful and flexible start up system that is a major improvement. It IS backwards compatable with SysV and init scripts, so, no one can say they are taking away someones capability to use their own init scripts. BSD could continue to use its own startup init system and optionally allow systemd to be called from this for software that needs systemd. So, FreeBSD does not even have to change much about its current init system to support systemd. systemd could be called from FreeBSDs current init scripts as an addon rather than needing to replace any of the existing init system. I basically cannot see a rational reason to not support it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
9.0 release not dead but barely breathing after idling
Aargh... So my 9.0 RELEASE system no longer totally hangs when sitting idle... it seems to run quite a bit longer, waking up from screen blanking in general even after long (overnight) periods of sitting idle. However, not always. X (screen was allowed to blank after 10 min, I'm testing w/ that off now.) blanked the screen. I come back after a few hrs of the system doing nothing (leaving a lot of stuff open, esp in firefox) and the screen is blank (expected) but doesn't wake up. I can ping from another machine, but not rlogin (no response). That seems weird. /var/log/messages shows no activity around attempted rlogin time Previously, before I turned off memory hole mapping in bios, it would go totally dead, but now it's clearly breathing. Power switch doesn't do a soft reboot, but I haven't tested it independently to see if it works at all. Will do that on next reboot. Question: If one does ctlaltD to get out of X, how does that affect things? i.e. Since there is no active X display, what happens if a process tries to repaint? Does this effectively take display hardware out of the picture for troubleshooting? Output from last: garya pts/5nightmare Tue Aug 21 18:26 - 18:26 (00:00) garya pts/3:0 Tue Aug 21 17:12 still logged in garya pts/2:0 Tue Aug 21 17:12 still logged in garya pts/0:0 Tue Aug 21 17:12 still logged in garya pts/1:0 Tue Aug 21 17:12 still logged in garya pts/4:0 Tue Aug 21 17:12 still logged in garya ttyv0 Tue Aug 21 17:08 still logged in boot time Tue Aug 21 17:06 garya pts/3:0 Sun Aug 19 15:44 - crash (2+01:22) garya pts/4:0 Sun Aug 19 15:44 - crash (2+01:22) garya pts/2:0 Sun Aug 19 15:44 - crash (2+01:22) garya pts/1:0 Sun Aug 19 15:44 - crash (2+01:22) garya pts/0:0 Sun Aug 19 15:44 - crash (2+01:22) root ttyv4 Sun Aug 19 15:42 - crash (2+01:23) garya pts/4:0 Sun Aug 19 15:15 - 15:41 (00:25) I discovered the system was hung and rebooted around Aug 21 17:06. Why is no crash recorded on Aug 21? The system was working (behaving normally) until at least ~ Aug 21 15:00 Since I could ping it around Aug 21 17:00, but then did a forced power down in order to reboot, shouldn't that show as a crash or something? Why is there no boot recorded soon after Aug 19 15:44? (I did reboot) Why does the first entry for garya after boot show still logged in? Is this because the records are based on the utx.log file, and the system crashed, so it looks like I'm still logged in? /var/log/cron shows: Aug 21 13:11:00 breakaway /usr/sbin/cron[10699]: (operator) CMD (/usr/libexec/save-entropy) Aug 21 13:15:00 breakaway /usr/sbin/cron[10717]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun) Aug 21 13:20:00 breakaway /usr/sbin/cron[10719]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun) Aug 21 13:22:00 breakaway /usr/sbin/cron[10721]: (operator) CMD (/usr/libexec/save-entropy) Aug 21 13:25:00 breakaway /usr/sbin/cron[10733]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun) Aug 21 17:10:00 breakaway /usr/sbin/cron[1878]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun) Aug 21 17:11:00 breakaway /usr/sbin/cron[1882]: (operator) CMD (/usr/libexec/save-entropy) So it appears the system went south around Aug 21 13:25 Anything else I should look at for hints? Any suggestions for how to narrow this down further other than: disabling X screen blanking ctlaltD to get out of X prior to leaving machine idle Thanks for any suggestions, gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Repeaters [off topic]
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:10:19AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: Bob Hall wrote: I'm using a repeater to grab a wireless signal and pass it to my local (wired) lan. For various reasons I won't go into a repeater is, in theory, the best way to do this. However, I'm having trouble finding a repeater that isn't garbage. I've been through 2 Linksys units, both of which required constant reboots and both of which died after almost exactly a year. I tried a Hawking HWREN1 which is still working after slightly more than a year but has trouble with encrypted traffic and also requires frequent reboots. I also tried a Hawking HW2R1, which was much less flaky than the HWREN1 and handled encrypted traffic OK, but died after about 3 months. Since these things cost $100-$140 apiece, it would be cost effective to to pay more for a unit that worked consistently and didn't die after a few months of light use. Has anyone on the list used a repeater that they had good experience with? Bob Hall ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Aloha I have a similar system for a HP Linux mini that I use portably. It works at my home base as well as in several locations including on board NCL ships. What is the origin of the wireless signal are you picking up to begin with? Landlord's wireless router. I sounds like interfere or no permission to use the originating signal. I have permission; I have the passphrase necessary for access. Internet access is included in my rent. If the original signal is flaky or blocked or timed out then the repeater may not work. The original signal is flaky. Even though I'm less than 75 feet from the source, I use a high-gain antenna to compensate for a weak signal. However, I was able to maintain semi-stable access with the HW2R1 and antenna, until the HW2R1 died. (With the other three units, access consistently sucked.) Flakiness doesn't explain why three out of four repeaters died in a year or less. Traffic is light; I'm the only one using the repeater and I mostly use the Internet for email and reading news sites. I never even watched a video during the three months the HW2R1 was alive. When I say that three of the repeaters died, I mean a total cessation of function. They stopped functioning as repeaters, they stopped responding to pings, their built-in web servers no longer provided the configuration web pages, and rebooting didn't fix anything. The HWREN1 that I'm using right now stops functioning as a repeater several times a day, but I can still ping it and get the config pages. Rebooting usually (but not always) gets it working again. Sometimes I have to ask the landlord to reboot the router. I can't get permission to install an ethernet cable. I've already asked. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
