Re: legal question on licence terms

2012-09-15 Thread Boris Samorodov
Hello Martyn,

14.09.2012 19:16, Martyn Jansen пишет:
 
 I'm looking at your licence terms and conditions and particularly the section 
 on redistribution restriction on a number of ports.
 

FreeBSD ports system is a set of tools to deal with software created
elsewhere. The information about licences, permissions, etc. should
be looked at the original site, asked to original authors. The source
files may be used for the referrence.

As a starting point I'll suggest using the file pkg-descr at the
port's directory. This file usially hes a refference to the
original site.

Thank you for your interest at the FreeBSD Operating System.
-- 
WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam)
FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve
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http://localhost/phpmyadmin

2012-09-15 Thread tsz him li

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pkgconf-0.8.9 conflicts...

2012-09-15 Thread Modulok
List,

I've been seeing a lot of this recently when I try to install new ports. The
following is on a fresh install of FreeBSD 9.0 Release, when I tried to install
linux-f10-flashplugin11 from ports. (It happens with several other packages
too)::

Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11.

pkgconf-0.8.9 conflicts with installed package(s):
pkg-config-0.25_1

So, I try this::

pkg_delete pkg-config-0.25_1

But of course I can't deinstall it because several hundred already installed
require it.

Suggestions?
-Modulok-
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Re: pkgconf-0.8.9 conflicts...

2012-09-15 Thread Mark Felder

On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 10:33:09 -0500, modu...@gmail.com wrote:



But of course I can't deinstall it because several hundred already  
installed

require it.


The required instructions to fix your problem are in /usr/ports/UPDATING.  
Just serarch for pkgconf.



Cheers!
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8.1 - 8.3

2012-09-15 Thread Laszlo Danielisz
Hey Guys, 

If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update 
installed packages?
One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance? Maybe I'm blind but I 
haven't found the date on freebsd.org

Thx!
Laszlo
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Re: 8.1 - 8.3

2012-09-15 Thread kron

On 2012/09/15 17:16, Laszlo Danielisz wrote:

Hey Guys,

If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update 
installed packages?


no


One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance? Maybe I'm blind but I 
haven't found the date on freebsd.org


i think you mean

http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#sup

BR
Oli
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Re: 8.1 - 8.3

2012-09-15 Thread Laszlo Danielisz
Thx!
Yeah, I totally screwed up my last sentence, sorry :)

On 2012. September 15. at 18:23, kron wrote:

 On 2012/09/15 17:16, Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
  Hey Guys,
  
  If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update 
  installed packages?
 
 no
 
  One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance? Maybe I'm blind but I 
  haven't found the date on freebsd.org (http://freebsd.org)
 
 i think you mean
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#sup
 
 BR
 Oli
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Re: 8.1 - 8.3

2012-09-15 Thread Michael Powell
Laszlo Danielisz wrote:

 Hey Guys,
 
 If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update
 installed packages? One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance?
 Maybe I'm blind but I haven't found the date on freebsd.org
 

When updating within a major release version such as 8.1 to 8.x the ABI is 
stable and remains the same so it is not necessary to update the third party 
packages/ports. It becomes necessary to rebuild/update whenever changing 
from one major release to another, such as from 8.x to 9.x for example.

If you use csup and a supfile to update src, just use tag=RELENG_8_3 to pull 
in the security maintenance release bits. Currently it is at P4.

-Mike



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Re: 8.1 - 8.3

2012-09-15 Thread Laszlo Danielisz
Great Mike, 
May I ask what is ABI?

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Laszlo Danielisz
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On 2012. September 15. at 18:56, Michael Powell wrote:

 Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
 
  Hey Guys,
  
  If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update
  installed packages? One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance?
  Maybe I'm blind but I haven't found the date on freebsd.org 
  (http://freebsd.org)
  
 
 
 When updating within a major release version such as 8.1 to 8.x the ABI is 
 stable and remains the same so it is not necessary to update the third party 
 packages/ports. It becomes necessary to rebuild/update whenever changing 
 from one major release to another, such as from 8.x to 9.x for example.
 
 If you use csup and a supfile to update src, just use tag=RELENG_8_3 to pull 
 in the security maintenance release bits. Currently it is at P4.
 
 -Mike
 
 
 
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Re: Minecraft sound (ALSA)

2012-09-15 Thread Jan Beich
Stephan Schindel s...@tp1.rub.de writes:

AL lib: alsa.c:960: no playback cards found...
AL lib: alsa.c:1017: no capture cards found...
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4154:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
[...]

pcm.oss {
 type oss
 device /dev/dsp
}

Remove ~/.asoundrc, /usr/local/etc/asound.conf defaults to OSS plugin.
And when not using NATIVE_LIBS the following issue may affect you

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/169896
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Problem upgrading fbsd-7.4 -- 8.3

2012-09-15 Thread Jack Stone
Am trying to upgrade fbsd-7.4 to 8.3. I get all the way through the 
usual procedure using sources, including installworld, when I attempt 
to run mergemaster as the final step, I get this fatal error.


I've searched the list and google, but don't find the right answer. 
What am I possibly doing wrong and what should I do to get around this?


The error:
mail# mergemaster -viF

*** Creating the temporary root environment in /var/tmp/temproot
 *** /var/tmp/temproot ready for use
 *** Creating and populating directory structure in /var/tmp/temproot

 *** Press the [Enter] or [Return] key to continue

  *** FATAL ERROR: Cannot 'cd' to /usr/src and install files to
  the temproot environment

--
--
All the best,
Jack

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Re: pkgconf-0.8.9 conflicts...

2012-09-15 Thread Modulok
Thanks! Everything works now. I should have read UPDATING before posting.

-Modulok-

On 9/15/12, Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote:
 On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 10:33:09 -0500, modu...@gmail.com wrote:


 But of course I can't deinstall it because several hundred already
 installed
 require it.

 The required instructions to fix your problem are in /usr/ports/UPDATING.
 Just serarch for pkgconf.


 Cheers!

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Re: (no subject)

2012-09-15 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:41:22 -0500
Andy Recker articulated:

 stop

You didn't say, Simon says.

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Re: 8.1 - 8.3

2012-09-15 Thread Michael Powell
Laszlo Danielisz wrote:

 Great Mike,
 May I ask what is ABI?
 
ABI is short for Application Binary Interface, and is a low-level interface 
between programs and the operating system [kernel] they run on.

You may have seen API as well - short for Application Programming Interface. 
This generally/usually is relevant to programs talking to other programs.

In FreeBSD, if changes to the ABI are deemed necessary, this will generally 
serve as a demarcation point between one major version revision and the next 
one coming along, e.g 7.x, 8.x, 9.x, and so on.

-Mike
  

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apache 2.2.22_8

2012-09-15 Thread Solmin Vladimir

Hi!
Im using apache 2.2.22_6 with make options in /etc/make.conf

# apache22
.if ${.CURDIR} == ${PORTSDIR}/www/apache22
WITH_SUEXEC=YES
SUEXEC_DOCROOT= /www
SUEXEC_USERDIR= /www/*/cgi-bin
SUEXEC_LOGFILE= /var/log/suexec.log
WITH_APACHE_PERF_TUNING=yes
.endif

But after svn co /usr/ports today i'm see next:

$portupgrade -arR
** Port marked as IGNORE: www/apache22:
is marked as broken: WITH/WITHOUT parameters are obsolete. The 
port use the new options NG framework. Please read 
http://wiki.freebsd.org/Ports/Options/OptionsNG


but a don't understand how i must set SUEXEC_DOCROOT, SUEXEC_USERDIR and 
SUEXEC_LOGFILE in NG framework format...


Please help show me how
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Re: 8.1 - 8.3

2012-09-15 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Sat Sep 15 11:58:42 2012
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 From: Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com
 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:56:49 -0400
 Subject: Re: 8.1 - 8.3

 Laszlo Danielisz wrote:

  Hey Guys,
  
  If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update
  installed packages? One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance?
  Maybe I'm blind but I haven't found the date on freebsd.org
  

 When updating within a major release version such as 8.1 to 8.x the ABI is 
 stable and remains the same so it is not necessary to update the third party 
 packages/ports. 

Note: this is _generally_ accurate.   There are *rare* exceptions -- things
that have to be compiled against against the actual kernel in use, because
they go rummaging through kernel internal data structures.

Historically, lsof wa one such program.

Such programs tended to have *LOUD* caveats in the build documentation,
and run-time checks for kernel version consistency. 

In 30+ years as a sysadmin, I think I've only encoundered abouut _four_
such programs. 


,
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Re: legal question on licence terms

2012-09-15 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Fri Sep 14 10:32:41 2012
 From: Martyn Jansen martyn.jan...@zynstra.com
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:16:32 +
 Subject: legal question on licence terms

 Sirs,

 I'm looking at your licence terms and conditions and particularly the 
 section on redistribution restriction on a number of ports.

 The restriction is stated as being applicable to redistribution on mass 
 media. Could you please elaborate on what this means - clearly a number 
 of leading solutions use FreeBSD so I'm trying to properly understand 
 when and how the redistribution restrictions apply.

 In our own case we would be using FreeBSD as a component of managed 
 services that we would be providing to our customers. The software would 
 remain on our own server and would not be separately available to our 
 customers. We assume therefore that this in any case does not constitute 
 redistribution.

For buiness purposes, it is _critical_ that you consult -- on a *paid*,
professional basis --with a competent legal profesional in your 
jurisdiction -- one with expertise and experience in 'IP' (intellectual 
property) matters.  That way, if the advice/opinion you get, and 'rely on',
turns out to be incorrect, you have recourse against their malpractice
insurance.

That said, there is one set of rules that applies to the FreeBSD 'base
system' -- which is owned, maintined, and distributed by the FreeBSD 
Foundation -- which allows essentially unlimited use for any reason as
long as the copyright notices and source attribution are maintained.

The 'ports collection' operates under *different* rules -- with potentially
different rules for _each_and_every_ package in the collection.  These
packages are owned and maintained by various 'third parties', who THEMSELVES
decide on the licensing requirements/restrictions they impose.

You, or your legal counsel/solicitor/barrister, will have to review the
licensing terms of _each_and_every_ such 'third party' package that you
intend to make available to your users -- to see if/how/under what conditions
you can do that.  There are some packages where the rights owner allows
FreeBSD to distribute their package to directly to 'end users', but does
*not* allow someone who gets the package from FreeBSD to redistribute it
to others.

It is *YOUR* responsibility to review the license terms in each piece of
software in the ports collection to determine what is/is not allowed by
the licence terms on that piece of software, if it is for other than 
'personal' use.



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