Re: /usr/sbin/ppp doubling connections on tun0
On 11/20/2012 2:49 AM, andrew clarke wrote: I'm using /usr/sbin/ppp for PPPoE over an ADSL modem in bridged mode: # ifconfig tun0 tun0: flags=8051UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1492 options=8LINKSTATE inet 203.217.27.170 -- 203.215.15.252 netmask 0x inet 203.214.46.107 -- 203.215.7.251 netmask 0x Opened by PID 49158 What would cause this? Notice the two IP addresses assigned to the same interface. It should just have one address assigned. Yes, I think this is caused by NAT. It seems that this is feature: iface-alias Default: Enabled if -nat is specified. This option simply tells ppp to add new interface addresses to the interface rather than replacing them. The option can only be enabled if network address translation is enabled (``nat enable yes''). With this option enabled, ppp will pass traffic for old interface addresses through the NAT engine (see libalias(3)), resulting in the ability (in -auto mode) to properly connect the process that caused the PPP link to come up in the first place. Disabling NAT with ``nat enable no'' will also disable `iface-alias'. One could say that it's a surprising one! But, yes, is deliberate. HTH, Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: ... You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. Nope. I gave ONE command: 'portsnap fetch update'. FALSE TO FACT. No way. UNIX command (on a command line, also called CLI), is anything between prompt *NOBODY* said Unix command. _You_ falsely imputed that meaning to the respondants use of the word in a context with a different applicable meaning. 'command' has many meanings -- *especially* in the Unix environment. [drivelectomy] You persist in repeating your error. ... Well, yes - CLI applies to many environments (not only OSs), with the same basic format. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command-line_interface ... The general pattern of an OS command line interface is: prompt command param1 param2 param3 ... paramN A simple CLI will display a prompt, accept a command line typed by the user terminated by the Enter key, then execute the specified command and provide textual display of results or error messages. Advanced CLIs will validate, interpret and parameter-expand the command line before executing the specified command, and optionally capture or redirect its output. ... Command prompt ... Arguments ... Command-line option ... Examples: - OSs (e.g. UNIX) $ portsnap fetch update - database and/or languages environments (e.g. SQL) sql select fields from table - applications (e.g. reservation system) pax dl123/12augdis which means: display a list of passengers for flight DL123, departing on 12 Aug, out of DIS (Disney Land) So, we are discussing here things that are obvious. People who write technical or user manuals should have a clue of what they are writing and talking about (e.g. what is a command, also called an entry). Otherwise they screw up the users and it's a software error sysadmins. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 09:15:16 + (UTC) jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: You persist in repeating your error. ... Well, yes - CLI applies to many environments (not only OSs), with the same basic format. Why don't the pair of you try and understand each other instead of arguing over the meanings of words as though it was a matter of life and death. As it happens you are *both* right about the usage of the word command. You *both* fail to appreciate that like *every* other word in the English language it has a context dependant meaning. Stop masturbating over a dictionary and work on your problem or take it elsewhere - please. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith at...@sohara.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
SSD for FreeBSD NAS device
Hello, I have just acquired an Intel R2312GZ4GC4 which I have equipped with a Adaptec RAID 51245 and 6 WD red disks of 3To - It'll come with 32Gb of Kingston ECC RAM. I am planing to use It as a backup device on a second hosting facility to backup couple of critical servers of mine. Item: Intel(R) Server System R2312GZ4GC4 Intel(R) Server System: integrated in a 2U chassis supporting 12x3.5* Hot-swap drives, 24 DIMMs, 2 750W Redundant Power Supplies, enterprise class IO, Intel(R) Remote Management Module 4 (AXXRMM4R) Integrated Intel(R) Server System with (1) Intel(R) Server Board S2600GZ4 in 2U chassis, (1) airduct, (1) Control panel on rack handle, Support for 2x SSD mounting on airduct, (12) 3.5†Hot Swap Drive Carriers with (1) Hot Swap Backplane, (3) SFF8087 to SFF8087 cables, (2) CPU heatsinks, Redundant and hotswap cooling fans, (2) risers with 3 x8 slots (2xFHFL 1xFHHL), (2) 750W AC Power Supply, Intel(R) Remote Management Module 4, (1 Set) Value rails Qty: 1 I will use ZFS as file system for both the root drive (SSD ?) - and the Adaptec RAID / JBOD controller (RAIDZ2 probably). I wanted to know what were your experiences on choosing an SSD HD as master boot device / root FS ? Do you think I should go for a redundant SSD drives (RAID 1) or does this offers limited interest in such config ? I have been reading comments about failure / problems here and there, but comments are not so fresh (one year is very old in SSD). So I wanted to have fresh infos and updates on your experiences with SSD on such mid size system. Thx. –– - Grégory Bernard Director - --- www.osnet.eu --- -- Your provider of OpenSource appliances -- –– OSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetO ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
Steve O'Hara-Smith ateve at sohara.org writes: ... Educate yourselves, please. It's scary when one confuses command arguments with a command because some nitwit described/called it that way. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]
Zach Leslie xaque...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.fossil-scm.org/ l I'm not fossil user, but it's BSD licensed in written in C. Also, this particular tool bails out on the unix philosophy, with its web gui, ticket tracker etc. Do one thing. Do it well. I would argue that git bails on that as well, but that's a different discussion. Whether or not fossil does one thing depends on which one thing you pick. If the one thing is version control, you're right. However version control is just one aspect of a larger task that does't have a common name. But if you look at systems designed for managing projects with source, you'll see they universally provide web uis, issue trackers, and wikis. Due you trash IDE's because they provide tools that are useful for doing software development instead of limiting themselves to being text editors? That fossil provides all of those things in a single relatively small program is a major win - at least for small projects (which is the fossil target). On the other hand, the fossil project does stay focused on the core task. They will reject a change proposal because it's not part of that task. That said, much as I like fossil (it's my goto VCS) I don't think it would be a good choice for FreeBSD. We're not a small project - we have people who are willing to devote time to things like an external wiki and isse tracker. Nuts, we have (had?) repos in four different VCSs! Those features in fossil are purposely kept simple since they're meant for doing one thing, not as general-purpose tools for lots of things. The issue tracker doesn't support branching issues, which is liable to cause problems in a large project. The FreeBSD wiki's are used for lots of things other than just project documents. The web ui - well, that's probably useable as is. But that one thing isn't a deal maker. -- Sent from my Android tablet with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my swyping. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Recent security announcement and csup/cvsup?
On 11/20/2012 12:45 PM, Mohacsi Janos wrote: Dear Ollivier and all, I have problem with the portsnap: I maintain a private repository under the /usr/ports: There is a /usr/ports/tmp where I store new ports to be tested, and submitted. The portsnap is removing unrecognized local files. With cvsup I don't have such a problem. I have no information about pkgng, whether I can maintain private repository with pkgng or not? I guess the best in this case is to switch to subversion. http://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsSubversionPrimer Janos Mohacsi Head of HBONE+ project Network Engineer, Director Network and Multimedia NIIF/HUNGARNET, HUNGARY Co-chair of Hungarian IPv6 Forum Key 70EF9882: DEC2 C685 1ED4 C95A 145F 4300 6F64 7B00 70EF 9882 On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Ollivier Robert wrote: According to Gary Palmer on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 01:04:21PM -0500: In other words: while signed updates via freebsd-update and portsnap are great for a good chunk of users, they don't address everyones needs. Hopefully, with the move toward kngng, there will be less need of portsnap (and /usr/ports for that matter). -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- robe...@keltia.net In memoriam to Ondine, our 2nd child: http://ondine.keltia.net/ This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of OSE. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please return this e-mail message and the attachment(s) to the sender and delete and destroy all copies. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PPPoA section of FreeBSD Handbook
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:51:51 +1100 andrew clarke wrote: On Tue 2012-11-20 11:49:38 UTC+1100, andrew clarke (m...@ozzmosis.com) wrote: In the meantime I've switched to using mpd5 (/usr/ports/net/mpd5) and /sbin/ipnat. So far, so good: # ifconfig ng0 ng0: flags=88d1UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1492 inet 124.170.51.116 -- 203.215.7.251 netmask 0x Incidentally the PPPoA section of the FreeBSD is very out of date: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pppoa.html The ambiguously named net/pppoa port in section 28.6.1 has been marked as broken since 2009. (Ambiguous since it's only for a particular brand of USB ASDL modem.) In section 28.6.2 the example provided is a config file for mpd 4.x which does not work in mpd 5.x. net/mpd4 was deleted from the ports tree 11 months ago. net/mpd5 doesn't seem to support PPPoA, only PPPoE. I could find no reference to PPPoA in the manual or source code. Not many people really need that these days. PPPoA support is needed for obsolete USB modems which pass-through ATM for the host to terminate. There are also some pci modems supported by Linux, but I don't think they've been well supported on FreeBSD, if at all. These days there are better options that only require standards-based support in the host. Most PPPoA-based ISPs also support PPPoE over ATM - even if they don't advertise it or tell their low-level technical support. Alternatively you can: - use a NAT router that terminate PPPoA - use a router/modem that bridges PPPoA to PPPoE - use a router/modem that terminates PPPoA and passes the public IP address to the host ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Tuning modern (i.e. 9.x) FreeBSD Systems for 'servers' - any guides?
Hi, We've got a number of 9.x systems in service - replacing a number of older 6/7/8 ones. In the olden days (going back quite a while) you had to fiddle around with stuff like NMBCLUSTERS, MAXUSERS etc. In fact, if you have a look around Google it's littered with guides/articles for this stuff, which appears to be all very out of date. Does anyone have any links for 'modern' tuning guides - or is it simply not necessary with newer FreeBSD versions? (e.g. 9.x upwards) e.g. if the machine is amd64 w/6-8Gb of RAM - running GENERIC. The servers typically handle lots of TCP sessions - so I'm just concerned about what in the olden days would have been network buffers etc. Thanks, -Karl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /usr/sbin/ppp doubling connections on tun0
andrew clarke wrote: I'm using /usr/sbin/ppp for PPPoE over an ADSL modem in bridged mode: # ifconfig tun0 tun0: flags=8051UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1492 options=8LINKSTATE inet 203.217.27.170 -- 203.215.15.252 netmask 0x inet 203.214.46.107 -- 203.215.7.251 netmask 0x Opened by PID 49158 What would cause this? Notice the two IP addresses assigned to the same interface. It should just have one address assigned. Something causes the initial PPPoE session to stop, then another to restart without properly closing the previous PPPoE session. I'm not sure when this started happening but I've noticed it's become more frequent in the past few weeks. One theory I have is that it may have begun after I upgraded FreeBSD from 8.2 to 8.3 a few months back. I suppose concurrent PPPoE sessions aren't the end of the world, but obviously it makes no sense to have two on the same interface, so I'd like to prevent that. (Strictly speaking they aren't concurrent as the previously allocated IP [203.217.27.170 in the case above] no longer responds to pings, etc. It's dead, Jim.) The multiple IP addresses also causes /usr/ports/dns/ddclient to get confused and not tell DynDNS when a new IP address has been assigned, although perhaps that's a bug (sort of) in ddclient. I notice FreeBSD PR 151400 mentions: The patch also makes a small change to how ppp(8) destroys interfaces at exit. Instead of just dealiasing interfaces and leaving them behind, they are now destroyed in the same manner ifconfig destroy works. I wonder if that's the cause? If I get a chance I'll try building a local copy of /usr/sbin/ppp with the patch reverted and test that, although it can be a difficult problem to replicate. Plus of course the patch doesn't explain the initial disconnections. I suspect that's an issue unrelated to /usr/sbin/ppp though. # cat /etc/ppp/ppp.conf default: set log phase chat lcp ipcp ccp tun command lqm set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255 nat enable yes disable lqr disable ipv6cp set echoperiod 30 enable echo iinet: set device PPPoE:bge0 set authname secret set authkey secret set dial set login set mru 1492 set mtu 1492 set redial 15 0 add default HISADDR # grep ppp /etc/rc.conf ppp_enable=YES ppp_mode=ddial ppp_nat=YES ppp_profile=iinet # uname -a FreeBSD blizzard.phoenix 8.3-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Jun 12 00:39:29 UTC 2012 r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 In the meantime I've switched to using mpd5 (/usr/ports/net/mpd5) and /sbin/ipnat. So far, so good: # ifconfig ng0 ng0: flags=88d1UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1492 inet 124.170.51.116 -- 203.215.7.251 netmask 0x Regards Andrew Add these statements to your ppp.conf file disable iface-alias# Stop adding old IP address as alias # when ppp redials because line was # lost. These old IPs showed using # ifconfig -a on tun0. iface clear # Remove all previous IP addresses ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SSD for FreeBSD NAS device
In the last episode (Nov 20), bsd said: I have just acquired an Intel R2312GZ4GC4 which I have equipped with a Adaptec RAID 51245 and 6 WD red disks of 3To - It'll come with 32Gb of Kingston ECC RAM. I am planing to use It as a backup device on a second hosting facility to backup couple of critical servers of mine. [..] I wanted to know what were your experiences on choosing an SSD HD as master boot device / root FS ? Do you think I should go for a redundant SSD drives (RAID 1) or does this offers limited interest in such config ? For any critical server, don't think of RAID as an option, think of it as a requirement. -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Nov 20 03:17:25 2012 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com Subject: Re: portsnap Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 09:15:16 + (UTC) Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: ... You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. Nope. I gave ONE command: 'portsnap fetch update'. FALSE TO FACT. No way. UNIX command (on a command line, also called CLI), is anything between prompt *NOBODY* said Unix command. _You_ falsely imputed that meaning to the respondants use of the word in a context with a different applicable meaning. 'command' has many meanings -- *especially* in the Unix environment. [drivelectomy] You persist in repeating your error. ... Well, yes - CLI applies to many environments (not only OSs), with the same basic format. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command-line_interface ... The general pattern of an OS command line interface is: prompt command param1 param2 param3 ... paramN No argument -- for _that_ meaning of the word. That, however, is not the only valid usage or interpretation of it. The truth that you refuse to acknowledge is that in *many* cases, one or more of the 'params' on the command line are commands TO THE APPlICATION BEING INVOKED. A simple CLI will display a prompt, accept a command line typed by the [drivelectomy] So, we are discussing here things that are obvious. People who write technical or user manuals should have a clue of what they are writing and talking about (e.g. what is a command, also called an entry). Otherwise they screw up the users and it's a software error sysadmins. the authors of the portsnap docs (and the _numerous_ other applications that describe the use of certain keywords used as input to that appication ARE correct -- despite your boneheaded denial of that fact. A command specifies, to the application to which it is directed, _what_ (or _which_, if you prefer) operation/activity/function is to be performed. In grammar terms it is a =verb=. A 'parameter'/'option'/'switch'/etc. instructs the application to which it is directed to , _how_ to perform the particular action. It _modifies_ the action to be performed. In grammar terms it is an =adverb=. This distinction has been known to, understood, and employed by those who write/read/use technical instructions for well over THREE HUNDRED years. (early multi-function machinery, such as a crane, could only perform one action at a time -- e.g. traverse, adjust boom, lift; you moved one set of controls to command the machine _which_ action to perform, and then another set of controls to ccntrol how it is done. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Dispatching software that works
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Re: portsnap
Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command-line_interface ... The general pattern of an OS command line interface is: prompt command param1 param2 param3 ... paramN No argument -- for _that_ meaning of the word. That, however, is not the only valid usage or interpretation of it. The truth that you refuse to acknowledge is that in *many* cases, one or more of the 'params' on the command line are commands TO THE APPlICATION BEING INVOKED. A simple CLI will display a prompt, accept a command line typed by the [drivelectomy] So, we are discussing here things that are obvious. People who write technical or user manuals should have a clue of what they are writing and talking about (e.g. what is a command, also called an entry). Otherwise they screw up the users and it's a software error sysadmins. the authors of the portsnap docs (and the _numerous_ other applications that describe the use of certain keywords used as input to that appication ARE correct -- despite your boneheaded denial of that fact. A command specifies, to the application to which it is directed, _what_ (or _which_, if you prefer) operation/activity/function is to be performed. In grammar terms it is a =verb=. A 'parameter'/'option'/'switch'/etc. instructs the application to which it is directed to , _how_ to perform the particular action. It _modifies_ the action to be performed. In grammar terms it is an =adverb=. This distinction has been known to, understood, and employed by those who write/read/use technical instructions for well over THREE HUNDRED years. (early multi-function machinery, such as a crane, could only perform one action at a time -- e.g. traverse, adjust boom, lift; you moved one set of controls to command the machine _which_ action to perform, and then another set of controls to ccntrol how it is done. ... also responding to kpneal at pobox.com ... With regard to definition of a command as we practice and argue about here: In general (see bash(1), SHELL GRAMMAR, Simple Commands), a command is an executable preceded by optional vars and followed by optional parameters. Look at PORTSNAP(8)'s synopsis again. The command is 'portsnap', anything else are parameters to it. If you call a parameter a command here, you imply that it has attributes of a command, which clearly does not, as referenced by me above. So, basically, it is an indicator, verbosely (but not required to be so if it were also verbosely defined in man page) describing an action parameter, e.g. extract, telling the actual 'portsnap' command what to do (yes - what to do, and not how to do it). jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: LSI 2008 drivers
Alltek Supplies Tech Support/Customer Service wrote (2012/11/19): Good afternoon, We're looking to build a ZFS storage device with FreeBSD version 8.3, however, the Supermicro based hardware comes with LSI 2008 SAS controller card and we were told that LSI / Supermicro doesn't have a driver for FreeBSD. We're just wondering if the LSI 2008 is supported under FreeBSD version 8.3? Hello, yes, look at mps(4) driver. -- Rudolf Cejka cejkar at fit.vutbr.cz http://www.fit.vutbr.cz/~cejkar Brno University of Technology, Faculty of Information Technology Bozetechova 2, 612 66 Brno, Czech Republic ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:46:55 + (UTC) jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Educate yourselves, please. It's scary when one confuses command arguments with a command because some nitwit described/called it that way. jb Well with nearly 30 years in unix software development I do know a thing or two about it. However that is not relevant, the sad thing is that you have destroyed any chance of getting whatever help you wanted by deciding to argue about what you think words should mean instead of understanding how they are being used. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith at...@sohara.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Xorg got stuck sometimes
Hi there, Sometimes, Xorg got stuck but I can't reproduce it always. When it appears, Xorg just stop being usable and mouse / keyboard can't be used also, switching to tty does not work at all and the screen is frozen. But I still can use ssh to connect the broken host and shutdown it normally, Xorg will use 100% of CPU when it breaks like this. I noticed this message when it appears : EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop. I'm using the nvidia nvidia-driver-304.64 on FreeBSD 9.1-RC3 Cheers, -- David Demelier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg got stuck sometimes
Try to rebuild Xorg with WITHOUT_NOUVEAU. That maybe helpfull. Cheers On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:38 PM, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.comwrote: Hi there, Sometimes, Xorg got stuck but I can't reproduce it always. When it appears, Xorg just stop being usable and mouse / keyboard can't be used also, switching to tty does not work at all and the screen is frozen. But I still can use ssh to connect the broken host and shutdown it normally, Xorg will use 100% of CPU when it breaks like this. I noticed this message when it appears : EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop. I'm using the nvidia nvidia-driver-304.64 on FreeBSD 9.1-RC3 Cheers, -- David Demelier __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Nov 20 11:14:25 2012 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com Subject: Re: portsnap Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:12:46 + (UTC) Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command-line_interface ... The general pattern of an OS command line interface is: prompt command param1 param2 param3 ... paramN No argument -- for _that_ meaning of the word. That, however, is not the only valid usage or interpretation of it. The truth that you refuse to acknowledge is that in *many* cases, one or more of the 'params' on the command line are commands TO THE APPlICATION BEING INVOKED. A simple CLI will display a prompt, accept a command line typed by the [drivelectomy] So, we are discussing here things that are obvious. People who write technical or user manuals should have a clue of what they are writing and talking about (e.g. what is a command, also called an entry). Otherwise they screw up the users and it's a software error sysadmins. the authors of the portsnap docs (and the _numerous_ other applications that describe the use of certain keywords used as input to that appication ARE correct -- despite your boneheaded denial of that fact. A command specifies, to the application to which it is directed, _what_ (or _which_, if you prefer) operation/activity/function is to be performed. In grammar terms it is a =verb=. A 'parameter'/'option'/'switch'/etc. instructs the application to which it is directed to , _how_ to perform the particular action. It _modifies_ the action to be performed. In grammar terms it is an =adverb=. This distinction has been known to, understood, and employed by those who write/read/use technical instructions for well over THREE HUNDRED years. (early multi-function machinery, such as a crane, could only perform one action at a time -- e.g. traverse, adjust boom, lift; you moved one set of controls to command the machine _which_ action to perform, and then another set of controls to ccntrol how it is done. ... also responding to kpneal at pobox.com ... With regard to definition of a command as we practice and argue about here: In general (see bash(1), SHELL GRAMMAR, Simple Commands), a command is an executable preceded by optional vars and followed by optional parameters. Repeating: No argument -- for _that_ meaning of the word. That, however, is not the only valid usage or interpretation of it. The truth that you refuse to acknowledge is that in *many* cases, one or more of the 'params' on the command line are commands TO THE APPlICATION BEING INVOKED. Look at PORTSNAP(8)'s synopsis again. The command is 'portsnap', anything else are parameters to it. According to the manpage some of those parameters ARE described as commands. A form of usage/description employed by the first *professional* documentation specialists at Bell Labs (also Dartmouth, Xerox, and others) more than 40 years ago (yes, 'before Unix') and still in use by documentation professionals _today_. If you call a parameter a command here, you imply that it has attributes of a command, which clearly does not, as referenced by me above. You lie. A command does not have to have the attributes of a command-line invocation. So, basically, it is an indicator, verbosely (but not required to be so if it were also verbosely defined in man page) describing an action parameter, e.g. extract, telling the actual 'portsnap' command what to do (yes - what to do, and not how to do it). It has been tradition in the Unix community (and elsewhere) to refer to what you call 'action parameters' as commands -- especially in formal system documentation -- for well over THREE DECADES. Your insistance that 'command' can ONLY refer to a command-line invocation is contrary to 'plain English', 30+ years of Unix history/tradition, and another 25+ years of computing history before that. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Help needed : acroread needs libcanberra-gtk-module.so
Hello, This is the first time I am seeing a problem with running Acrobat Reader (on a fresh FreeBSD-8.3-i386 installation) : /root # Gtk-Message: Failed to load module canberra-gtk-module: libcanberra-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Gtk-Message: Failed to load module gnomesegvhandler: libgnomesegvhandler.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [1]+ Exit 1 acroread8 Running the linux version of Opera is even more disastrous : /root # linux-opera linux-opera linux-opera-widget-manager /root # linux-opera [1] 2984 /root # opera [crash logging]: CRASH!! /usr/local/lib/linux-opera/opera got signal SIGSEGV at address 0841AA43 Can someone please help me out ? -- Regards, Manish Jain bourne.ident...@hotmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
HP proliant dl385 startx freezes machine
I have a Proliant 385 dl with a Ati Rage XL graphics card ( which should correspond with the Mach64 driver) I have installed xorg as I have done a zillion times, and used Xorg -configure to set it all up. I have then edited the .conf file as usual, accordingly to the handbook. I have added LXFE in the same manner as on my main computer, and made a .xinitrc with startlxde When i call upon startx as my own user the server freezes and xorg does not start. If doing it by SSH the pipe sooner or later breaks, and I can log back in. When I consult /var/log/Xorg.X.log I get the follwing error listed : Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: VT_SETMODE VT_PROCESS failed I have googled quite a lot but cannot find anything help me get Xorg up and running. Anyone out there with any hints ? Blessed be Kenneth Hatteland, Norway ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: ... the authors of the portsnap docs (and the _numerous_ other applications that describe the use of certain keywords used as input to that appication ARE correct -- despite your boneheaded denial of that fact. Yes, it is a keyword, a keyword parameter that tells CLI command what to do (yes, a keyword that may be taken verbatim or translated into an internal command parameter(s), a keyword that represents an action). But, it is not a command, or parameter of type command. With regard to definition of a command as we practice and argue about here: In general (see bash(1), SHELL GRAMMAR, Simple Commands), a command is an executable preceded by optional vars and followed by optional parameters. You lie. A command does not have to have the attributes of a command-line invocation. Well, a second nature ... But, it is an honor :-) To drive the point: let's assume that it is a valid syntax to pass a parameter like this: ls -al or much better, command=command, like this: command=ls -al then it would be clear that a command (parameter) is passed to CLI command. This kind of command parameter passing fulfilles the definition of a command as referenced. If you are familiar with C function system(), you will have easier time to understand: http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/clibrary/cstdlib/system/ The prototype is: int system ( const char * command ); The command ls -al (yes, it is a command as referenced) is a parameter to system() function: system(ls -al); It just says, execute that command ls -al in the existing execution environment. The reason I go so by the book about it is that words have meaning and definitions :-) jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
The Opera browser on FreeBSD
I find two native FreeBSD ports for OPERA. With that I want to say, I am not using Linux-Opera anymore. But since some time, I had installed www/opera-devel and www/opera at the same time and played with them. Now I see, that opera has a greater release-level then opera-devel. That makes no sense. Bye. -- : : : ***Hinweis in eigener Sache: : Diese Nachricht ist nur und ausschließlich an den oder die Empfänger : gerichtet. : Weiterleiten oder veröffentlichen oder auf andere Weise Dritten zur : Kenntnis zu bringen, ist, auch in Teilen oder auszugsweise oder in : Zitaten, nicht statthaft. : Für Folgen, die aus der Verwendung von Inhalten einer durch mich : zugestellten oder weitergeleiteten Nachricht entstehen, übernehme : ich keinerlei Haftung! : Irrtümlich erhaltene Nachrichten sind bitte sofort zu löschen.*** : : |___(_nun_mit_FreeBSD:- 8.3-RELEASE @senyo_)__| | | frohes schaffen dank open source | | p...@weispit.eu | |___(_nun_mit_FreeBSD:- 8.3-RELEASE @senyo_)__| Two of the most famous products of Berkeley are LSD and Unix. I don't think that this is a coincidence. From: The UNIX-HATERS Handbook, ISBN 1-56884-203-1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg got stuck sometimes
On 20/11/2012 19:18, Hooman Oroojeni wrote: Try to rebuild Xorg with WITHOUT_NOUVEAU. That maybe helpfull. Cheers On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:38 PM, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com mailto:demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, Sometimes, Xorg got stuck but I can't reproduce it always. When it appears, Xorg just stop being usable and mouse / keyboard can't be used also, switching to tty does not work at all and the screen is frozen. But I still can use ssh to connect the broken host and shutdown it normally, Xorg will use 100% of CPU when it breaks like this. I noticed this message when it appears : EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop. I'm using the nvidia nvidia-driver-304.64 on FreeBSD 9.1-RC3 Cheers, -- David Demelier _ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/__mailman/listinfo/freebsd-__questions http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-__unsubscr...@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- WITHOUT_NOUVEAU is already in my make.conf.. Cheers, -- David Demelier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portmaster + unknown dependency problem
I have a 8.2-STABLE system. Last port upgrade was about a year ago. (I know, this is bad.) I was trying to update all ports, by following the UPDATING file. As it turned out, some ports has been deprecated/deleted. I have a problem in particular with the py-bittornado-core port. I do not need it. So I have deleted it: # pkg_info | grep bittornado # Clearly, it is not installed. However, when I write in this command: # portmaster -a Then I get this error: === The net-p2p/py-bittornado-core port has been deleted: Has expired: Depends on the deprecated wx 2.4 === Aborting update Well, here is the question: why does it want to build a port that does not even exist in the ports tree? It was really deleted, there is no such thing as /usr/ports/net-p2p/py-bittornado-core . I have also tried to do this: # portmaster -a -x py-bittornado-core but it has exactly the same problem. Is this a stale dependency to a nonexistent port? How can I overcome this problem? Thanks, Laszlo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
boot problem after freebsd-update from 9.1-RC2 to 9.1-RC3
Hello, I recently installed a 9.1-RC2 system using gmirror with MBR, and swap in first bsdlabel. orsbackup# gpart show =63 3907029104 mirror/gm0 MBR (1.8T) 63 63 - free - (31k) 126 3907028979 1 freebsd [active] (1.8T) 3907029105 62 - free - (31k) = 0 3907028979 mirror/gm0s1 BSD (1.8T) 0 2- free - (1.0k) 216777216 1 freebsd-swap (8.0G) 16777218 3890251760 2 freebsd-ufs (1.8T) 3907028978 1- free - (512B) The drive was setup with the following commands: orsbackup# gpart create -s MBR mirror/gm0 mirror/gm0 created orsbackup# gpart add -t freebsd -a 4k mirror/gm0 # ignored mirror/gm0s1 added, but partition is not aligned on 4096 bytes # create the bsdlabel partitions in slice 1 (s1) orsbackup# gpart create -s BSD mirror/gm0s1 orsbackup# gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4k -s 8g mirror/gm0s1 orsbackup# gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k mirror/gm0s1 # put bootcode on the MBR and mark the first slice active orsbackup# gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr mirror/gm0 orsbackup# gpart set -a active -i 1 mirror/gm0 # put bootcode on the bsdlabel orsbackup# gpart bootcode -b /boot/boot mirror/gm0s1 The system rebooted several times without issue. This system is a testbed for 9.1 and is not yet deployed as a production server. I thought I'd update to 9.1-RC3, so I ran: freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RC3 freebsd-update install reboot The system won't boot and complains about: Not UFS No ada0 No boot Before I charge ahead with reissuing the gpart bootcode commands I thought I'd: a) make others aware there may be issues in freebsd-update with the 9.1 release candidates b) ask about the best way to resolve this bootloader issue. Thanks you for any pointers in resolving this bootloader issue! johnea ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: boot problem after freebsd-update from 9.1-RC2 to 9.1-RC3
On 11/20/12 13:34, free...@johnea.net wrote: Hello, I recently installed a 9.1-RC2 system using gmirror with MBR, and swap in first bsdlabel. orsbackup# gpart show =63 3907029104 mirror/gm0 MBR (1.8T) 63 63 - free - (31k) 126 3907028979 1 freebsd [active] (1.8T) 3907029105 62 - free - (31k) = 0 3907028979 mirror/gm0s1 BSD (1.8T) 0 2- free - (1.0k) 216777216 1 freebsd-swap (8.0G) 16777218 3890251760 2 freebsd-ufs (1.8T) 3907028978 1- free - (512B) The drive was setup with the following commands: orsbackup# gpart create -s MBR mirror/gm0 mirror/gm0 created orsbackup# gpart add -t freebsd -a 4k mirror/gm0 # ignored mirror/gm0s1 added, but partition is not aligned on 4096 bytes # create the bsdlabel partitions in slice 1 (s1) orsbackup# gpart create -s BSD mirror/gm0s1 orsbackup# gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 4k -s 8g mirror/gm0s1 orsbackup# gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k mirror/gm0s1 # put bootcode on the MBR and mark the first slice active orsbackup# gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr mirror/gm0 orsbackup# gpart set -a active -i 1 mirror/gm0 # put bootcode on the bsdlabel orsbackup# gpart bootcode -b /boot/boot mirror/gm0s1 The system rebooted several times without issue. This system is a testbed for 9.1 and is not yet deployed as a production server. I thought I'd update to 9.1-RC3, so I ran: freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RC3 freebsd-update install reboot The system won't boot and complains about: Not UFS No ada0 No boot Before I charge ahead with reissuing the gpart bootcode commands I thought I'd: a) make others aware there may be issues in freebsd-update with the 9.1 release candidates b) ask about the best way to resolve this bootloader issue. Thanks you for any pointers in resolving this bootloader issue! johnea Not sure, but this might apply: The freebsd-update tool is used to fetch, install, and rollback binary updates to the FreeBSD base system. Note that updates are only available if they are being built for the FreeBSD release and architecture being used; in particular, the FreeBSD Security Team only builds updates for releases shipped in binary form by the FreeBSD Release Engineering Team, e.g., FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE and FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE, but not FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE or FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT. Seems like it isn't supposed to work for 9.1-RC2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The Opera browser on FreeBSD
On 20 November 2012 13:23, peter weismann p...@weispit.eu wrote: I find two native FreeBSD ports for OPERA. With that I want to say, I am not using Linux-Opera anymore. But since some time, I had installed www/opera-devel and www/opera at the same time and played with them. Now I see, that opera has a greater release-level then opera-devel. That makes no sense. Yes, opera.com is rolling out releases fairly quickly these days, www/opera-devel doesn't get updated often enough to make much sense. What I do (when I wish to run test versions) is poke my tube machine on over to http://http://www.opera.com/browser/next/ pull down the correct file, then untar it into a directory, copy the profile/ directory over (if needed) run it from the local users directory. This way we don't have stray files clotting up /usr/local don't have to rely on the whims of the maintainer to update a rather fast-moving target. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: boot problem after freebsd-update from 9.1-RC2 to 9.1-RC3
On 2012-11-20 14:28, Gary Aitken wrote: On 11/20/12 13:34, free...@johnea.net wrote: freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RC3 ... Not UFS No ada0 No boot Seems like it isn't supposed to work for 9.1-RC2 I previously used binary update to migrate from 9.0 to 9.1, via: freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RC1 freebsd-update install reboot freebsd-update install reboot I'm starting to think having the swap partition in gm0s1a and the booting UFS partition in ada0s1b is the problem: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=31954 The Not UFS error comes immediately on boot. If I boot from rescue media, I can start the gmirror, mount it and chroot into it. The whole install seems fine except for the first stage boot loader finding the UFS partition. A handy bootloader config trick would be greatly appreciated! johnea ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:08:13PM -0800, Zach Leslie wrote: http://www.fossil-scm.org/ I'm not fossil user, but it's BSD licensed in written in C. Baptise Daroussin probably could tell us more about fossil pro and cons. This misses one of of the main points raised in the original post. The proliferation of git as a revision control system. Also, this particular tool bails out on the unix philosophy, with its web gui, ticket tracker etc. Do one thing. Do it well. Look at the internal of fossil and how things are done in fossil and you would understand that the last sentence is totally wrong. Fossil has really nice features that could nicely fits with FreeBSD workflows and greatly improves it. It has most of the new shiny feature everyone can expect from a dvcs, but it also has it drawbacks: The converted repositories (I did convert docs, src and ports) with full history kept: branches, tags, etc. is huge and the first clone would be painful to do. On the other side you have multiple working copies open on the same clone which is really nice. Some of the operations can be slow, Jörg Sonnenberger wrote an analysis about this one the fossil wiki, but don't remember the link sorry. From my testing, apart from the do we really need a new scm question? I am a big fan of fossil and find it easier and cleaner than all the other scm I know, I use git for pkgng and other projects, I use a lot mercurial on some other area, and fossil remains my favorite :). But I really don't think it could fit FreeBSD's requirements as it is now. but there are lots of room of improvements. The learning curve to fossil is probably really easy. On of the last thing is that fossil lacks keyword expansion. That said I'm happy with svn on FreeBSD, I still from time to time do conversion of out different tree to fossil for fun, but no more and I won't advocate for any vcs change. Bapt pgppBxhkxmBDd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SSD for FreeBSD NAS device
On 20/11/2012 20:54, bsd wrote: Hello, I have just acquired an Intel R2312GZ4GC4 which I have equipped with a Adaptec RAID 51245 and 6 WD red disks of 3To - It'll come with 32Gb of Kingston ECC RAM. I am planing to use It as a backup device on a second hosting facility to backup couple of critical servers of mine. Do you think I should go for a redundant SSD drives (RAID 1) or does this offers limited interest in such config ? The advantage of SSD drives is their speed, in a ZFS config they can help most in two ways, as cache devices to speed up disk access or as log devices to increase reliability. Personally for a backup server I would use the two SSD drives as a mirrored log device for the ZFS pool. Reliability over performance. Having said that if you haven't got them I wouldn't get them. For a busy fileserver in the office you want the extra performance. As an offsite backup server the time saved in performance is only going to impact a few times a day and will be outweighed by the network speed. The cost of the SSD drives could add more drives to increase space or redundancy - RAIDZ3 ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: eGalax USB touch panel on ExoPC Slate vs. FreeBSD and X11
I am pleased to see others having success at getting tablet input to work. I tried and failed with 8.x on my Fujitsu T-1010. Question: The button emulation. Did you add that or was it already there? I want to use Squeak Smalltalk on a tablet and the three button mouse emulation is a big deal, especially without a keyboard. The button emulation was already there. The BIOS on the ExoPC Slate uses it itself: when you power up the tablet, there are two areas you can press to enter the BIOS setup or the boot select menu. You can use the touch panel to set the BIOS options or choose the boot path and then tap the screen to select. The simulated button presses via screen taps are the only thing that work with the ums(4) driver out of the box. If you look at the HID collection dump from the mouse emulation mode, you can see it supports an X axis, Y axis and two button inputs. The touch screen synthesizes the button inputs internally based on tap patterns. Which leads me to my next question. What are you using for input? Is anyone working on handwriting recognition or does Apple still have the patents locked up? My goal is to be as much as possible like the Newton. Initially I was using a USB keyboard. The ExoPC Slate has two USB ports on the side. I have this old Targus USB I/O expander that also provides PS/2 keyboard and mouse inputs, along with RS-232 port, printer port and USB ethernet (Pegasus chipset, aue(4) driver). At minimum, USB keyboard is required in order to install FreeBSD. I also the USB thumbdrive installer to load the OS. After that I used the USB ethernet to load papckages. Once I had the OS installed, I switched to using a bluetooth keyboard. It's less clunky without the extra wires. Note that this was intended to be Intel's developer reference platform for the Meego OS (which is basically just another flavor of Linux). It came with Meego installed (it's now dual-booting Meego and FreeBSD). Meego includes an on-screen keyboard input widget which is something that plain X11 lacks. So for now, I need a physical keyboard. In addition to the eGalax touch screen, the Slate has: Atom N450 1.66Ghz CPU (can run i386 or amd64 versions of FreeBSD) 2GB RAM 64GB SSD storage Atheros 9285 WiFi Atheros bluetooth Intel Pineview graphics (1388x768 resolution) The bluetooth requires a binary blob firmware image to be loaded and I had to jigger the Intel xf86 video driver a little but it's all working now. -Bill On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Bill Paul wp...@freebsd.org wrote: Well... apparently I was able to get this to work on my own. To recap, I have an ExoPC Slate running FreeBSD 9.0 and xorg 1.7 with an eGalax USB HID touch screen. Out of the box, ums(4) claims it but doesn't like it. After investigating a bit more, I found that the screen has multiple HID collections associated with it: Collection type=Application page=Digitizer usage=Touch_Screen Collection type=Physical page=Digitizer usage=Finger Collection type=Application page=Generic_Desktop usage=Pointer Collection type=Physical page=Generic_Desktop usage=Pointer Collection type=Application page=Microsoft usage=0x0001 Collection type=Application page=Digitizer usage=Touch_Screen Collection type=Physical page=Digitizer usage=Stylus Collection type=Application page=Digitizer usage=Device_Configuration Collection type=Physical page=Digitizer usage=Finger The ums(4) driver is trying to use the 'Pointer' collection, but I think it may be getting confused by the X/Y ranges: Collection type=Application page=Generic_Desktop usage=Pointer Collection type=Physical page=Generic_Desktop usage=Pointer Input rid=1 size=1 count=1 page=Button usage=Button_1, logical range 0..1, physical range 1..2047 Input rid=1 size=1 count=1 page=Button usage=Button_2, logical range 0..1, physical range 1..2047 Input rid=1 size=16 count=1 page=Generic_Desktop usage=X, logical range 0..4095, physical range 0..4095 Input rid=1 size=16 count=1 page=Generic_Desktop usage=Y, logical range 0..4095, physical range 0..4095 End collection End collection There are two problems. First, the ranges are a little unusual. I think other mouse devices only have ranges from -127 to +127. Second, the input flags for the X and Y axis entries are 0x2 (HI_VARIABLE) and not HI_RELATIVE, which is what the usm(4) driver expects. This causes it to ignore the X and Y axis entries and only handle the button entries. I tried changing the code to accept just the HI_VARIABLE flag, but that still didn't make the cursor move. In any case, I was wrong that the problem is that the FreeBSD ums(4) driver doesn't handle gestures: it's just not flexible enough to handle this oddball pointer design. Anyway, go get it to work with X as a standard pointer device, I finally ended up doing the following: 1) Edited the uhid_probe() function in sys/dev/usb/input/uhid.c to
after youtube .swf, black xterm text = transparent
After doing a number of port upgrades to try to get firefox 16 to play youtube audio again (still doesn't), I now see that when I put an xterm window over a particular portion of the display, the black areas on the xterm are transparent, and are showing a portion of a youtube page which is no longer playing but which is still open on either a visible or a non-visible (i.e. not the current) tab. The image is from the end of the following page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHuYmhY-5-g and the video content is https://s.ytimg.com/yts/swfbin/watch_as3-vfl1ubMZd.swf Anyone else seeing this problem? Hmm... this is weird. If I iconify everything except a couple of xterms, xwininfo clicked on the region where the image *was*, which now has only the wm (xfce4) background, the xwininfo gives the window id for the background. This is particularly noticeable in the xfce terminal emulator, 0.4.8, as it comes up with an entirely black background. Gimp, firefox and thunderbird windows don't have the problem, nor does the wm header. I'm guessing this is a result of using the XVideo extension, and not using opengl in the wm, or something like that, based on this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_video_extension Can anyone shed some light on this and how to prevent it? p.s. I can't seem to find how to tell what options a port is installed with, and what the defaults are. I know it's there somewhere... Thanks, Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: boot problem after freebsd-update from 9.1-RC2 to 9.1-RC3
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, free...@johnea.net wrote: On 2012-11-20 14:28, Gary Aitken wrote: On 11/20/12 13:34, free...@johnea.net wrote: freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RC3 ... Not UFS No ada0 No boot Seems like it isn't supposed to work for 9.1-RC2 I previously used binary update to migrate from 9.0 to 9.1, via: freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RC1 freebsd-update install reboot freebsd-update install reboot I'm starting to think having the swap partition in gm0s1a and the booting UFS partition in ada0s1b is the problem: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=31954 The Not UFS error comes immediately on boot. If I boot from rescue media, I can start the gmirror, mount it and chroot into it. The whole install seems fine except for the first stage boot loader finding the UFS partition. A handy bootloader config trick would be greatly appreciated! boot(8) says The automatic boot will attempt to load /boot/loader from partition `a' of either the floppy or the hard disk. You could try setting the correct device path in /boot/boot.config, but I suspect that won't be read until too late. gptboot looks for the first UFS partition. Maybe /boot/boot can be modified to do that also. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
