powerd(8), cpufreq(4) only available on amd64/i386?
I recently installed 9.1-release on a sparc64 box. One of the options in bsdinstall was to use the cpu power control. I chose to use it. So I've got # grep power /etc/rc.conf powerd_enable=YES # which doesn't seem to work: root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start powerd Is the following dmesg line relevant? # dmesg|grep power management jbusppm0: JBus power management mem 0x4000f00-0x4000f07,0x4000f410050-0x4000f41005f on nexus0 # Anyway, I wonder if powerd is only for amd64/i386 and is not supposed to work on sparc64. cpufreq(4) is not listed in sparc64 GENERIC kernel. If that's the case, then maybe it's best to remove powerd option from bsdinstall? Anton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: AARGH... give me some idea for ad-blockers
All I use is Adblock Plus. With the automatic updates I havent seen any ad for month.. herb langhans ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: AARGH... give me some idea for ad-blockers
Quoting herbert langhans w...@langhans.com.pl: All I use is Adblock Plus. With the automatic updates I havent seen any ad for month.. I'll second this endorsement, i've been using it for a good few years now and I just works :) Mike Woods Full of squishy cynicism ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
drivers for BMC43142 and/or AR8162 chips
Hi, I've installed pc-bsd 9.1 and FreeBSD 9.1 on my new laptop ASUS X201E, which was originally running ubuntu, after a little struggle to get it booting I am up and running although I have no network access whatsoever as the Ethernet device is Atheros AR8162 and the wifi is hybrid (wifi/bluetooth) Broadcom's BMC43142. After looking around I'm not sure if there are any bsd drivers available or any other way to get it running, at least one of them, preferably the wifi as I can live without wired connection. I've been thinking about going the ndisgen way but there are no winXP drivers for these chips. Does ndisgen support ndis 6.2, can I use win7 drivers? Any ideas what to try or even just a general approach what way to go. Thanks. vw. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem to compile lang/gcc
On Jan 7, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com wrote: Hi to all, I try compile lang/gcc port but it stopped with required 'file to patch': root@casa:/usr/ports/lang/gcc # make Making GCC 4.6.3 for i386-portbld-freebsd9.1 [c,c++,objc,fortran,java] === Found saved configuration for gcc-4.6.3 === Extracting for gcc-4.6.3 = SHA256 Checksum OK for gcc-4.6.3.tar.bz2. = SHA256 Checksum OK for ecj-4.5.jar. === gcc-4.6.3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 - found === Patching for gcc-4.6.3 === gcc-4.6.3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 - found === Applying extra patch /usr/ports/lang/gcc/files/java-patch-hier File to patch: No file found--skip this patch? [n] File to patch: No file found--skip this patch? [n] y 1 out of 1 hunks ignored--saving rejects to libjava/Makefile.in.rej Can't create libjava/Makefile.in.rej, output is in /tmp//patchr1fhKR5: No such f ile or directory *** [do-patch] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc. *** [build] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc. root@casa:/usr/ports/lang/gcc # In this case, what to do for continue ? Thanks. First of all, ensure that your ports tree is up to date. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: AARGH... give me some idea for ad-blockers
On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:40:37 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: itHOught I'd ask the best list which ad-blocking software I should use. firefox is my std browsers; also use ixquick. Simply deactivate Flash. :-) There are several extensions for Firefox to make the web less annoying and more usable by removing ads. The most prominent probably is Adblock Plus; also NoScript is worth having a look at. Still simply (temporarily) deactivating Flash gets you rid of most annoying ads, and you're typically left with grey boxes which is much more acceptable than blaring autoplay videos, squeaking buttons and other shit crazy people think to belong to a modern web experience. Sadly, some web sites use Flash as a replacement for content, for HTML. This definitely is a signal that the page doesn't want visitors. Many use it to deliver video (streaming), which can already be perfectly done using HTML 5. Some are using it for interactivity features. All those uses may be justified, even though Flash is losing its importance. So if you deactivate it, you're also safe against those backwards designs, where Flash-based advertisement is a main part of the delivered content. Today I don't need to deal with this question anymore. I've been using a two browsers approach: Firefox with Flash installed, everything works as intended, and Opera as my main browser, with Flash deactivated, and quite picky about what sites are allowed to do. If I urgently need to access something that doesn't show in Opera, I'll use Firefox for this one occassion. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FB 9.1 boot loader problem in VirtualBox
jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... Next problem: the FB 9.1 dmesg differs on: - VB VM pnp bios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum ... orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xc-0xc7fff pnpid ORM on isa0 Correction - on real hardware none of the above dmesg: ... isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: ISA Option ROMs at iomem 0xc-0xc,0xe-0xe pnpid ORM on isa0 sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0 vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 ... That msg in FB VM: pnp bios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum it means what is says - do not trust it; or also do not use PnP ? But it may also mean a problem accessing it in VM only, as opposed to a real machine. Searched Google, it shows often, but no clear interpretation. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Unreferenced Libraries?
9.1-RELEASE on amd64. libchk reports the following libraries (among others) as unreferenced: /usr/lib/libBlocksRuntime.so.0 /usr/lib/libform.so.5 /usr/lib/libformw.so.5 /usr/lib/libgpib.so.3 /usr/lib/libgssapi_ntlm.so.10 /usr/lib/libgssapi_spnego.so.10 /usr/lib/libhistory.so.8 /usr/lib/liblwres.so.80 /usr/lib/libmenu.so.5 /usr/lib/libmenuw.so.5 /usr/lib/libmilter.so.5 /usr/lib/libpanelw.so.5 /usr/lib/librpcsec_gss.so.1 /usr/lib/libstdbuf.so.1 /usr/lib/libsupc++.so.1 /usr/lib/libthread_db.so.3 All these are part of base. I note that in each case there is a name.so symlink pointing to the relevant library, as is, I believe, accepted best practice. Would I be correct in assuming that the reason libchk is reporting these as unreferenced is that everything which is actually using them is referencing the symlink? Or is libchk clever enough to resolve symlinks, and there is a different reason? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: AARGH... give me some idea for ad-blockers
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 14:32:35 +0100 Polytropon wrote: Today I don't need to deal with this question anymore. I've been using a two browsers approach: Firefox with Flash installed, everything works as intended, and Opera as my main browser, with Flash deactivated, and quite picky about what sites are allowed to do. If I urgently need to access something that doesn't show in Opera, I'll use Firefox for this one occassion. :-) There's also an Opera setting enable plugins only on on demand. With that setting if you click on a place-holder it becomes activated until you leave the page. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unreferenced Libraries?
On 07/01/2013 14:27, Walter Hurry wrote: 9.1-RELEASE on amd64. libchk reports the following libraries (among others) as unreferenced: /usr/lib/libBlocksRuntime.so.0 /usr/lib/libform.so.5 /usr/lib/libformw.so.5 /usr/lib/libgpib.so.3 /usr/lib/libgssapi_ntlm.so.10 /usr/lib/libgssapi_spnego.so.10 /usr/lib/libhistory.so.8 /usr/lib/liblwres.so.80 /usr/lib/libmenu.so.5 /usr/lib/libmenuw.so.5 /usr/lib/libmilter.so.5 /usr/lib/libpanelw.so.5 /usr/lib/librpcsec_gss.so.1 /usr/lib/libstdbuf.so.1 /usr/lib/libsupc++.so.1 /usr/lib/libthread_db.so.3 All these are part of base. I note that in each case there is a name.so symlink pointing to the relevant library, as is, I believe, accepted best practice. Yes, that's right. Would I be correct in assuming that the reason libchk is reporting these as unreferenced is that everything which is actually using them is referencing the symlink? Actually, it is probably reporting them because nothing is actually using them. libmilter.so.5 for instance won't have any consumers in the base system (not even /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail) but it is provided in case you want to install any mail filters from ports or otherwise. Or is libchk clever enough to resolve symlinks, and there is a different reason? The shlib sym-link without the ABI version number is generally only used at compile-time. Once the application has been linked, the dynamic loader will require the shared library with appended ABI version. There are instances of things that look at first sight like a shared library, but that don't have an ABI version no. In general, these are not in fact shared libraries, but loadable modules used by various specific programs. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Ignorance and pth etc
Hi I seem to be getting problems with some error messages which appear to indicate pth failures. The system is 8.2-RELEASE GENERIC amd64 on Intel quad core. I do not understand how pth threads are managed. 1. From ports I have installed fpc-pthreads-2.6.0 libpthread-stubs-0.3_3 pth-2.0.7 2. I am totally ignorant of what is installed by the kernel or of how to check whether there are any conflicts in the system or the ports. 3. I want to install Jabber which seems to require pth-hard 4. The greatest concerns seem to be around Xorg with kde4 installed 5. Fundamentally I am concerned that something about thread management on this system is fouled up. For example kde4, following a recent upgrade,has taken to not loading. Would someone be willing to enlighten me a little? 6. To show the my concerns are not without some foundation among the multiple error messages given when kde4 fails to load there is the snippet shown below. Many thanks for any advice kded(2157)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to find an appropriate lock to guard the shared cache. This *should* be essentially impossible. :( kded(2157)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to perform initial setup, this system probably does not really support process-shared pthreads or semaphores, even though it claims otherwise. kded(2157)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to unmap shared memory segment 0x8097a1000 kbuildsycoca4 running... QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. kglobalaccel(2164)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to find an appropriate lock to guard the shared cache. This *should* be essentially impossible. :( kglobalaccel(2164)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to perform initial setup, this system probably does not really support process-shared pthreads or semaphores, even though it claims otherwise. kglobalaccel(2164)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to unmap shared memory segment 0x8097b2000 kcminit(2166)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to find an appropriate lock to guard the shared cache. This *should* be essentially impossible. :( kcminit(2166)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to perform initial setup, this system probably does not really support process-shared pthreads or semaphores, even though it claims otherwise. kcminit(2166)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to unmap shared memory segment 0x8098ec000 QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. -- David Southwell ARPS AFIAP Photographic Arts Trained experienced competition judge, mentor, trainer, lecturer, Advanced digital techniques, international project photography ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
User IDs
Hi All, Looking for advice. I have had between 3 - 9 boxes on a small home business network. This network has been in place for 12+ years. On occasions there's a Linux box however I am trying to use PC-BSD instead. The non-FreeBSD boxes are used for office and general work the FreeBSD boxes are for development. The question is about dealing with adding users. I been using NIS for a while now it works ok however I've had to keep good notes on how to do thing mainly because I don't add user or boxes very often. I'm a software engineer not a system admin so I not clean on what the best way to deal with things like this. The problem is when I added a PC-BSD box and added a user with the GUI admin stuff provided it did not let me specify the user id so now the users file that are on the nfs mounted drives user id's don't match. I can login as root and use chpass and change the user ids but then I must go through add they files on the new box change uids and gids. Question is there an easier way?? Thx in advance... Don ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
IPFW stopped logging
I have discovered that IPFW stopped logging any messages in the security log over a week ago. I did a reset, etcetera, but without favorable results. I even tried a cold reboot to see if that made any difference; however, it didn't. Other than that, it appears to be working fine. I am looking for suggests on what might be broken. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: IPFW stopped logging
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: I have discovered that IPFW stopped logging any messages in the security log over a week ago. I did a reset, etcetera, but without favorable results. I even tried a cold reboot to see if that made any difference; however, it didn't. Other than that, it appears to be working fine. I am looking for suggests on what might be broken. The first suggestion is that you post your ruleset. The second is to show the values of the sysctl MIBs that control ipfw logging: net.inet.ip.fw.verbose net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit - M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: User IDs
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 11:49:48 -0800, Don Dugger wrote: The question is about dealing with adding users. I been using NIS for a while now it works ok however I've had to keep good notes on how to do thing mainly because I don't add user or boxes very often. I'm a software engineer not a system admin so I not clean on what the best way to deal with things like this. The problem is when I added a PC-BSD box and added a user with the GUI admin stuff provided it did not let me specify the user id so now the users file that are on the nfs mounted drives user id's don't match. I can login as root and use chpass and change the user ids but then I must go through add they files on the new box change uids and gids. Question is there an easier way?? If the GUI tool of PC-BSD doesn't cover the specific need you have, use the CLI equivalent. If you need an interactive way of adding users, use adduser, and if you have some time, read man pw and use pw useradd (and maybe pw usermod) which will cover nearly all imaginable cases. The advantage of pw is that you can easily script and automate things. If urgently needed, you could create a GUI wrapper with Tcl/Tk, but you'll probably find that the CLI tool is much easier to use. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Bash history empty on login
I'm not sure what's going on, as I've never had an issue like this in my years of using FreeBSD nor Linux. Each time I login, my history file is empty! I'm not sure what could be causing this, but below [1] is my .bashrc. I had . ~/.bashrc in ~/.profile, but I removed it while I'm trying to troubleshoot this issue. Does anyone have an idea or a direction to point me in? Thanks in advance. [1]# # ~/.bashrc # # If not running interactively, don't do anything [[ $- != *i* ]] return #PS1='[\u@\h \W]\$ ' alias ls='ls -G' alias ll='ls -lAhp' alias umount='sudo umount' alias grep='grep --color' alias nmap='sudo nmap' alias updatedb='sudo updatedb' alias pkg_add='sudo pkg_add' alias pkg_delete='sudo pkg_delete' alias top='top -aPStzj -s 1' alias portinstall='sudo portinstall' alias updatedb='sudo updatedb' PS1='\[\e[1;37m\][\u@\h \W]\$\[\e[0m\] ' export PATH=$PATH:/home/agoree/bin:/usr/local/kde4/bin/ #BASH history export HISTTIMEFORMAT=%h/%d - %H:%M:%S export HISTFILESIZE=10 #export VBOX_USB=usbfs -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: User IDs
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 11:49:48 -0800, Don Dugger wrote: The question is about dealing with adding users. I been using NIS for a while now it works ok however I've had to keep good notes on how to do thing mainly because I don't add user or boxes very often. I'm a software engineer not a system admin so I not clean on what the best way to deal with things like this. The problem is when I added a PC-BSD box and added a user with the GUI admin stuff provided it did not let me specify the user id so now the users file that are on the nfs mounted drives user id's don't match. I can login as root and use chpass and change the user ids but then I must go through add they files on the new box change uids and gids. Question is there an easier way?? If the GUI tool of PC-BSD doesn't cover the specific need you have, use the CLI equivalent. If you need an interactive way of adding users, use adduser, and if you have some time, read man pw and use pw useradd (and maybe pw usermod) which will cover nearly all imaginable cases. The advantage of pw is that you can easily script and automate things. If urgently needed, you could create a GUI wrapper with Tcl/Tk, but you'll probably find that the CLI tool is much easier to use. Ya I tried that the problem is adduser doesn't set the users home directory up for the for PC-BSD system. (KDE) Don ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sendmail not working
On 01/07/13 19:45, Robert Huff wrote: On a system running: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Dec 30 12:52:09 EST 2012 amd64 I have compiled sendmail following the instructions in the cyrus-sasl port. Sendmail starts, but no mail is processed either way. /var/log/maillog has this: Jan 7 21:07:42 jerusalem sm-mta[69792]: r05KsfdB048780: forward /home/huff/.forward: Group writable directory Jan 7 21:07:42 jerusalem sm-mta[69792]: r05KsfdB048780: smtpquit: mailer local exited with exit value 1 Jan 7 21:07:42 jerusalem sm-mta[69792]: r05KsfdB048780: to=huff@localhost, delay=2+05:11:25, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=52831038, relay=local, dsn=4.4.2, stat=Deferred: Connection reset by local The sendmail.cf and submit.cf are attached. Any idea what I've screwed up, or my next step in finding out? No clue, except the first message might be saying it's not going to honor anything from .forward because it's in a group writable directory which would be considered a security issue. Try making /home/huff group read only? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem to compile lang/gcc
Hi, I think you should update your ports tree :) Regards, Ivailo Tanusheff Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com Sent by: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 07.01.2013 15:15 To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc Subject problem to compile lang/gcc Hi to all, I try compile lang/gcc port but it stopped with required 'file to patch': root@casa:/usr/ports/lang/gcc # make Making GCC 4.6.3 for i386-portbld-freebsd9.1 [c,c++,objc,fortran,java] === Found saved configuration for gcc-4.6.3 === Extracting for gcc-4.6.3 = SHA256 Checksum OK for gcc-4.6.3.tar.bz2. = SHA256 Checksum OK for ecj-4.5.jar. === gcc-4.6.3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 - found === Patching for gcc-4.6.3 === gcc-4.6.3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 - found === Applying extra patch /usr/ports/lang/gcc/files/java-patch-hier File to patch: No file found--skip this patch? [n] File to patch: No file found--skip this patch? [n] y 1 out of 1 hunks ignored--saving rejects to libjava/Makefile.in.rej Can't create libjava/Makefile.in.rej, output is in /tmp//patchr1fhKR5: No such f ile or directory *** [do-patch] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc. *** [build] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc. root@casa:/usr/ports/lang/gcc # In this case, what to do for continue ? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Disclaimer: The information contained in this message is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and to others authorised to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. It you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking any action based on the contents of this message is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by responding to this e-mail and then delete it from your system. ProCredit Bank is neither liable for the proper and complete transmission for the information contained in this message nor for any delay in its receipt. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: AARGH... give me some idea for ad-blockers
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 04:44:18PM +0200, Aldis Berjoza wrote: 07.01.2013, 05:43, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org: itHOught I'd ask the best list which ad-blocking software I should use. firefox is my std browsers; also use ixquick. thanks for some tips, gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. I use dns/pdnsd to block (with dns) many advertisement sites, facebook, twitter etc I also use www/privoxy for html content blocking Finally if something remains, that I can't filter, then I use ad-block -- Aldis Berjoza FreeBSD addict to everybody on adblocking:: Thanks! I was about to go apeshit with all rthese bloody ads. I mean, enuf already. --g. -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
