Pkg in FreeBSD 9.1 release, file not found

2013-03-29 Thread Edgar Rodolfo
Hi guys! :)

I put in .cshrc:

setenv PACKAGESITE
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-stable/Latest;
and afterwards #pkg_add -r pkg to use pkg

But currently i can not use pkg :(, but i remember that few days ago i
was using I used pkg to update and install some binary package, but
today I can not use pkg.

today when i put pkg update:
pkg: 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-stable/Latest//repo.txz:File
unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)

currently i have:
#~pkg info pkg
pkg-1.0.1   New generation manager

I copy the file pkg.conf.sample to /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf
#less /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf
[...]

#Configuraton options
PACKAGESITE:http://pkg.freebsd.org/${ABI}/Latest
[...]

But it does not works :(, help me please :(, thanks in advice for you reply


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Re:

2013-03-29 Thread Polytropon
Sorry I have to say that, but I feel I have to comment on this:

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:46:53 -0400, Quartz wrote:
 [pc/free]bsd *can* be used as a desktop system, but it's really aimed 
 more at servers...

FreeBSD is, per definition, a multi-purpose operating system.
It can be used on servers, on desktops, on combined forms,
even on embedded. The description desktop, as I will admit,
includes the ability to do several things, such as web browsing,
emailing, word processing. Someone may include multimedia,
someone else may include gaming. There is no strict definition
on what makes desktop.



 a lot of common desktopy things aren't covered well. 

Personally I'm using FreeBSD _exclusively_ (!) on the desktop
since version 4.0, and I haven't missed _any_ common desktopy
thing that is required for my daily work. So at least from my
limited and very individual point of view, everything is
covered fine, on my home machines, and on the several laptops I
have been using.

I know I'm probably doing something wrong. :-)



 Based on the wording of your question it sounds like you're new to 
 non-windows systems. I'd suggest you look into some flavor of linux 
 instead (eg; ubuntu or mint): they'll be geared more towards what 
 you'd be looking for I think.

This assumption is what PC-BSD has been invented for. :-)

Honestly: I know there are several things that do not work out
of the box with FreeBSD, such as specific network sets, strange
electrical sheet feeders with inkpee mechanism, controlled by
an unknown USB data stream, or commodity gadgets. Problems
can also occur when considering that some hardware manufacturers
cripple their hardware intendedly in order to get permission to
put a Windows advertising sticker on them. In such cases,
Linux is often an advantage as they have developed means to
deal with that.

Still if the OP is explicitely _interested_ in running FreeBSD,
what's wrong in a try first? Maybe first PC-BSD, then normal
FreeBSD? In worst case, he would be able to download some Linux
distribution (and I second your suggestions of Ubuntu and Mint,
maybe add openSuSE?) and use that instead.

There is no reason to stay with Windows 8 when everything it
gives you is headaches and rage attacks. ;-)



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Re:

2013-03-29 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Jeff Belyea jbely...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a new computer with windows 8, which I hate with a passion. I don't
 play music and I don't do a lot of pictures. Basically I only search, some
 EBay and games. Can I replace win8 with BSD?


Of course you can. I suggest that you

0. make a full backup of your win8 drive... just in case you want to
go back.

You may also want to extract the win8 product key and write it down:

*
http://superuser.com/questions/495794/how-can-i-find-the-product-key-that-was-used-to-activate-windows-8
*
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/30363-Windows-8-Product-Key-Viewer

1. fetch a memstick image e.g. from here:

ftp://ftp2.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/9.1/FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img

and write it with your favorite application on a USB flash drive.

2. switch your computer firmware from UEFI to CSM (compatibility
support module), a.k.a. old BIOS mode, so you can boot external media.

3. boot from the USB flash drive, and experiment with FreeBSD.

4. install to disk (eventually after resizing and repartitioning the win8
part if you want to keep that).

Good luck!

-cpghost.

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dump locking up system

2013-03-29 Thread Robert Huff

(While the system involved is -CURRENT, this doesn't seem to
have anything CURRENT-related.)
On a system running:

FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Dec 30 12:52:09 EST 2012  amd64 

running dump causes the system to lock up ... sometimes.
Specifics:
I have a cron job which runs at 0200 local; it dumps three
filesystems - /, /var, and /usr - to an external hard drive attached
by eSATA.  (Dump is incremental Tuesday through Sunday, full on
Monday.)
After some time of working transparently, this now semi-
reliably causes the system to lock up requiring power-off to fix.
a) According to dumpdates, the dump of / always completes.
Only dumping /var or /usr cause the lock-up.
b) There's nothing else in cron running about that time.
c) Top doesn't show any suspicious processes or activity.
d) When doing fsck on re-boot, the only thing suspicious is
a file - caught in fsck phase 1 - large enough to be the usused
space on the disk.
e) The dump is run in snapshot mode; this has not previously
been a problem.
f) The exact command used is:

dump $DUMP_LEVEL -D $DUMPDATES_FILE -C $DUMP_CACHE -b 64 -Lau -f 
$DUMP_DATE.var.dump /var 

where all of the $VARs are appropriately defined elsewhere.
g) When run outside the cron environment, the script always
runs to completion.

Two possibilities come to mind: some kind of hardware failure,
or a subtle corruption of the file system.
Please - someone out there hav a better idea.

ResEpoectfully,


Robert Huff

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EOL

2013-03-29 Thread David Thurber
I have 5 XP machines on my node that are used to crunch data 24/7. So, 
I'm looking for an OS platform that has a 10 year EOL to replace XP/3.


What I got from your website appears to be a year or two at most on 
freebsd 8.3, and we really don't want to repeat the travails of the 
transition from 98SE to XP/3 after this one because the research team 
will be mostly mid 80's early 90s by then.  It's a lot of data fetched 
over the web so we need security updates to keep the OS secure with 
minimal interaction.

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Re: EOL

2013-03-29 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:19:02 -0600, David Thurber wrote:
 I have 5 XP machines on my node that are used to crunch data 24/7. So, 
 I'm looking for an OS platform that has a 10 year EOL to replace XP/3.

It's good you're paying attention to the upcoming death
of Windows XP and the expected birth of lots of new
malware, exploiting unfixed vulnerabilities. :-)



 What I got from your website appears to be a year or two at most on 
 freebsd 8.3, and we really don't want to repeat the travails of the 
 transition from 98SE to XP/3 after this one because the research team 
 will be mostly mid 80's early 90s by then. 

You should use the most recent FreeBSD version for your
first installation unless there's a _valid_ reason to
use an older release which you cannot avoid.

As with many software projects, FreeBSD is continuously
developed. Security patches are backported from the current
development branches to older (legacy) ones for some time,
as long as this is possible.

This of couse does not stop you to keep a FreeBSD installation
running. For example, I still have a FreeBSD 4.1 file server
which I see no need to replace, primarily because it runs
in-house only and has no connection to the Internet. This
is probably your biggest concern.

However, FreeBSD is much more secure than Windows XP due
to design and defaults. But keep in mind you're not just
using the OS, you're also using additional software which
also has to be kept current to operate securely.

FreeBSD allows you to update software (from the ports
collection) even on older installations. Of course this
is not possible unlimited - but as long as the required
OS infrastructures are present, it can be done.



 It's a lot of data fetched 
 over the web so we need security updates to keep the OS secure with 
 minimal interaction.

FreeBSD and its applications can be updated from source.
There are lots of tools (such as port management tools
like portmaster) to help you with this task. But there are
also tools for binary updates. They even cover transition
to a new major release. You can use freebsd-update to get
the security patches for the OS, this is very easy and
does not involve much interaction.

FreeBSD will provide a very solid foundation for running
secure installations over a long time. Of course you will
need to perform updates, but this is very easy to do, as
I said. You may check The FreeBSD Handbook for more
information.



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Re: EOL

2013-03-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 29/03/2013 15:19, David Thurber wrote:
 I have 5 XP machines on my node that are used to crunch data 24/7. So,
 I'm looking for an OS platform that has a 10 year EOL to replace XP/3.
 
 What I got from your website appears to be a year or two at most on
 freebsd 8.3, and we really don't want to repeat the travails of the
 transition from 98SE to XP/3 after this one because the research team
 will be mostly mid 80's early 90s by then.  It's a lot of data fetched
 over the web so we need security updates to keep the OS secure with
 minimal interaction.

10 years is an eternity in computing terms.  In 10 years your five
machines will be easily outclassed by a single machine costing a
fraction as much, if Moore's Law holds up.  In fact, by then you could
probably virtualize all five onto the same platform and still come out
ahead.

Might I suggest that your best option is not to look for an OS which has
a 10-year release lifetime; something I think you'ld struggle to find
from any FOSS project, and would probably have to pay exhorbitantly for
from a commercial provider.

Instead, look for an OS where you can maintain a configuration
environment for the lifetime of your project.  By that I mean you can
still run the original binaries.  In this respect, I think FreeBSD would
be one of the better choices.

I mean, 10 years ago, FreeBSD 5.0 and 5.1 were the latest releases.
Now, that release branch had its problems, but it marked the last hugely
incompatible change across major version updates (as seen in the 3 - 4
and 4 - 5 upgrades).  In principle, given a suitable set of compat5x
libraries (ie. the misc/compat5x port) and a kernel compiled with
'options COMPAT_FREEBSD5' (which is in the default kernel), you could
run software compiled for 5.x on a contemporary system.

Of course, there can't be any guarantees that your project running on
FreeBSD 9.2 now could be supported in compat9x mode on FreeBSD 15.x in
2023.  But I'd suggest the FreeBSD is probably one of your best bets for
achieving that.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: external hdd

2013-03-29 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Mar 28, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
 If I'm sharing an external 1TB HDD with FreeBSD and OS-X (I wan to use Time 
 Machine), what is the best file system to use?

Time Machine is only supported on top of journaled HFS+; I'm not sure how 
fusefs-hfs is doing on FreeBSD, though.  Or you could setup multiple partitions 
and have an exFAT partition for data interchange between other OSes.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Operation timed out with smtp.gmail.com - please help

2013-03-29 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
Please help debug sendmail / smtp.gmail config.

My University just switched to gmail (dickheads)
and I'm trying to figure out how to set it up.

It used to work ok with the University smtp auth
server. Now I get in /var/log/maillog:

 sm-mta[72300]: r2TI0vQc072134: to=me...@bris.ac.uk,
 ctladdr=me...@.men.bris.ac.uk (1001/1001),
 delay=00:20:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=210424,
 relay=smtp.gmail.com, dsn=4.0.0,
 stat=Deferred: Operation timed out with smtp.gmail.com

I switched the firewall off completely.

I have:

# cat /etc/mail/auth/client-info
AuthInfo:smtp.gmail.com U:root I:me...@bristol.ac.uk P:x
# 

and this in /etc/mail/freebsd.mc:

define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl
define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.gmail.com')dnl

I rebuilt (run make under /etc/mail. This just
renames freebsd.mc to hostname.mc, and freebsd.submit.mc
to hostname.submit.mc) and restarted sendmail.

I also use:

MASQUERADE_AS(`bristol.ac.uk')
MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`bristol.ac.uk')

to use the university domain instead of
may .men.bris.ac.uk, which is not
acceptable.

What else am I missing?

Thanks

Anton
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Re: Operation timed out with smtp.gmail.com - please help

2013-03-29 Thread CeDeROM
gmail has blocking mechanism when you use it from different devices,
try this maybe it will help:

https://accounts.google.com/DisplayUnlockCaptcha

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x11-toolkits/gtksourceview2 is broken

2013-03-29 Thread Walter Hurry
FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE on amd64

This afternoon I upgraded textproc/libxml2 from version 2.7.8_5 to 
version 2.7.8_0 (at least I think it's libxml2 that's the problem - I 
upgraded py27-libxml2 and gdk-pixbuf2 at the same time).

Then x11-toolkits/gtksourceview2 would not compile. I got the following 
error:

  CCLD   test-widget
../gtksourceview/.libs/libgtksourceview-2.0.so: undefined reference to 
`xmlTextReaderRelaxNGValidate'
gmake[2]: *** [test-widget] Error 1

Sure enough, I see a similar error when I try to open a shell script with 
gedit:

/usr/local/lib/libgtksourceview-2.0.so.0: Undefined symbol 
xmlTextReaderRelaxNGValidate

Where do I go from here?

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Re: Operation timed out with smtp.gmail.com - please help

2013-03-29 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:32:34 GMT
Anton Shterenlikht articulated:

 Please help debug sendmail / smtp.gmail config.
 
 My University just switched to gmail (dickheads)
 and I'm trying to figure out how to set it up.
 
 It used to work ok with the University smtp auth
 server. Now I get in /var/log/maillog:
 
  sm-mta[72300]: r2TI0vQc072134: to=me...@bris.ac.uk,
  ctladdr=me...@.men.bris.ac.uk (1001/1001),
  delay=00:20:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=210424,
  relay=smtp.gmail.com, dsn=4.0.0,
  stat=Deferred: Operation timed out with smtp.gmail.com
 
 I switched the firewall off completely.
 
 I have:
 
 # cat /etc/mail/auth/client-info
 AuthInfo:smtp.gmail.com U:root I:me...@bristol.ac.uk P:x
 # 
 
 and this in /etc/mail/freebsd.mc:
 
 define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl
 define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.gmail.com')dnl
 
 I rebuilt (run make under /etc/mail. This just
 renames freebsd.mc to hostname.mc, and freebsd.submit.mc
 to hostname.submit.mc) and restarted sendmail.
 
 I also use:
 
 MASQUERADE_AS(`bristol.ac.uk')
 MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`bristol.ac.uk')
 
 to use the university domain instead of
 may .men.bris.ac.uk, which is not
 acceptable.

Try this at the command line:

openssl s_client -connect smtp.gmail.com:25 -starttls smtp

If it times out, change the port number to 587 and try it again. If you
cannot make a connect using either port number then you have a firewall
problem.

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Re: x11-toolkits/gtksourceview2 is broken

2013-03-29 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 29 March 2013 15:11, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote:

 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE on amd64

 This afternoon I upgraded textproc/libxml2 from version 2.7.8_5 to
 version 2.7.8_0 (at least I think it's libxml2 that's the problem - I
 upgraded py27-libxml2 and gdk-pixbuf2 at the same time).

 Then x11-toolkits/gtksourceview2 would not compile. I got the following
 error:

   CCLD   test-widget
 ../gtksourceview/.libs/libgtksourceview-2.0.so: undefined reference to
 `xmlTextReaderRelaxNGValidate'
 gmake[2]: *** [test-widget] Error 1

 Sure enough, I see a similar error when I try to open a shell script with
 gedit:

 /usr/local/lib/libgtksourceview-2.0.so.0: Undefined symbol
 xmlTextReaderRelaxNGValidate

 Where do I go from here?


Looks like xmlTextReaderRelaxNGValidate is provided by
/usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/xmlreader.h

As an analogy, I seem to recall having trouble in the past
with the freetype2/freetype nested directories  #include
statements that never seemed to pick up the subtleties
 my solution at the time was to:
# ln -s /usr/local/include/freetype2/freetype /usr/local/include/freetype

This probably caused an orphan in Mumbai to experience an
existential dread they still don't understand, but I'll be danged
if it didn't work.

Otherwise, you can blindly run
# portmaster -r libxml2
(or some perverted equivalent thereof)
 pray.  It'll probably run for a good while.
% pkg info -r libxml2 | wc -l
148
(that's including the libxml2-2.7.8_5 is required by:  line though)

HTH

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Proper way to update ports with svn

2013-03-29 Thread Andre Goree
I seem to have to run 'make index' in /usr/ports after I've run 'svn up
/usr/ports' in order to see which ports need to be updated using
'portversion'.  This doesn't seem correct...and if so portsnap would
seem like a much better tool.  Perhaps I should be running 'make
fetchindex' instead?  I'm sure I've read about the correct way to do so,
but it doesn't appear to be here:
https://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsSubversionPrimer

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Re: external hdd

2013-03-29 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 29 March 2013 18:06, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:

 On Mar 28, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
  If I'm sharing an external 1TB HDD with FreeBSD and OS-X (I wan to use
 Time Machine), what is the best file system to use?

 Time Machine is only supported on top of journaled HFS+; I'm not sure how
 fusefs-hfs is doing on FreeBSD, though.  Or you could setup multiple
 partitions and have an exFAT partition for data interchange between other
 OSes.

 Regards,
 --
 -Chuck



Now, unless I got things wrong, I believe you're mistaken.

I, for instance, have a Time Machine server running on top of 10.0-CURRENT
with ZFS.
http://www.area536.com/projects/ironclad-time-machine-backups-on-freebsd/
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Re: external hdd

2013-03-29 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi--

On Mar 29, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
 On 29 March 2013 18:06, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:
 Time Machine is only supported on top of journaled HFS+; I'm not sure how 
 fusefs-hfs is doing on FreeBSD, though.  Or you could setup multiple 
 partitions and have an exFAT partition for data interchange between other 
 OSes.
 
 Now, unless I got things wrong, I believe you're mistaken.

The key word above which folks might not be paying enough attention towards--
particularly in the context of a backup solution-- is supported.

 I, for instance, have a Time Machine server running on top of 10.0-CURRENT 
 with ZFS.
 http://www.area536.com/projects/ironclad-time-machine-backups-on-freebsd/

Indeed.  As one might note on that page:

 defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1
  ^^^

#include std/disclaimer.h

Regards,
-- 
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Re: OT: The future of USENET?

2013-03-29 Thread David Brodbeck
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.orgwrote:

 There are several free public USENET text servers (no binary
 groups), granted it's nothing like the days when every ISP ran one but
 there are still several about (eternal-september.com is one of the
 biggest). There are also a few low cost paid servers (individual.netstands
 out here). There is also a thriving business in paid for USENET binary
 service.


Even back in the day I used to use public servers, because the ISP-run ones
generally had poor uptime and a poor selection of groups.

These days I tend not to read USENET groups because of the high amount of
spam traffic, and the fact that the remaining posters tend to be interested
mostly in continuing their own long-running flame wars while chasing off
newbies.  Maybe I just value my time more highly these days. ;)
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Re: EOL

2013-03-29 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:19:02 -0600
David Thurber dav...@thurber.org wrote:

 I have 5 XP machines on my node that are used to crunch data 24/7.
 So, I'm looking for an OS platform that has a 10 year EOL to replace
 XP/3.
 
if you do not count the service packs and updates, your XP installation
is EOL since 2001.

If you count service packs and patches, FreeBSD has no defined EOL.

All you have to do, is to introduce an update and patch strategy and do
it at predefined times.

 What I got from your website appears to be a year or two at most on 
 freebsd 8.3, and we really don't want to repeat the travails of the 
 transition from 98SE to XP/3 after this one because the research team 
 will be mostly mid 80's early 90s by then.  It's a lot of data
 fetched over the web so we need security updates to keep the OS
 secure with minimal interaction.

If you would like to stick with x86, I would say that FreeBSD has the
smoothest update and upgrade path.

If you want something better, you would have to move to AIX or Solaris.

Erich
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Re: external hdd

2013-03-29 Thread Shane Ambler

On 30/03/2013 09:43, Chuck Swiger wrote:

Hi--

On Mar 29, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:

On 29 March 2013 18:06, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:

Time Machine is only supported on top of journaled HFS+; I'm not
sure how fusefs-hfs is doing on FreeBSD, though.  Or you could
setup multiple partitions and have an exFAT partition for data
interchange between other OSes.


Now, unless I got things wrong, I believe you're mistaken.


The key word above which folks might not be paying enough attention
towards-- particularly in the context of a backup solution-- is
supported.


I, for instance, have a Time Machine server running on top of
10.0-CURRENT with ZFS.
http://www.area536.com/projects/ironclad-time-machine-backups-on-freebsd/





Indeed.  As one might note on that page:

defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1
  ^^^


The real point to notice is that the mentioned zfs storage is accessed
over the network not over a local usb/sata cable. The freebsd server
reads/writes to zfs the remote mac only talks afp over tcp seeing it as
another network fileserver.

While 10.5 included a zfs read-only kext apple removed it in 10.6 or 10.7.

There is an oss version of zfs started that appears to have been revived 
- maczfs.com.

There is also a commercial package for osx zfs - zevo.
I'm not vouching for either of these just mentioning that they exist.

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Re: external hdd

2013-03-29 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 30 March 2013 02:14, Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz wrote:

 On 30/03/2013 09:43, Chuck Swiger wrote:

 Hi--

 On Mar 29, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:

 On 29 March 2013 18:06, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:

 Time Machine is only supported on top of journaled HFS+; I'm not
 sure how fusefs-hfs is doing on FreeBSD, though.  Or you could
 setup multiple partitions and have an exFAT partition for data
 interchange between other OSes.


 Now, unless I got things wrong, I believe you're mistaken.


 The key word above which folks might not be paying enough attention
 towards-- particularly in the context of a backup solution-- is
 supported.

  I, for instance, have a Time Machine server running on top of
 10.0-CURRENT with ZFS.
 http://www.area536.com/**projects/ironclad-time-**
 machine-backups-on-freebsd/http://www.area536.com/projects/ironclad-time-machine-backups-on-freebsd/



  Indeed.  As one might note on that page:

 defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolume
 **s 1
   ^^^


 The real point to notice is that the mentioned zfs storage is accessed
 over the network not over a local usb/sata cable. The freebsd server
 reads/writes to zfs the remote mac only talks afp over tcp seeing it as
 another network fileserver.

 While 10.5 included a zfs read-only kext apple removed it in 10.6 or 10.7.

 There is an oss version of zfs started that appears to have been revived -
 maczfs.com.
 There is also a commercial package for osx zfs - zevo.
 I'm not vouching for either of these just mentioning that they exist.


Aye, I know that.

My point is, perhaps that'd be his best bet then ?
Attach the USB device to the FreeBSD box, export it over afp.

I know that's not really ideal, that's a given.
However, this is a solution that allows him to use the disk on fbsd, and
still be able to export TM backups.
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Re: Proper way to update ports with svn

2013-03-29 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 29 March 2013 22:29, Andre Goree an...@drenet.info wrote:

 I seem to have to run 'make index' in /usr/ports after I've run 'svn up
 /usr/ports' in order to see which ports need to be updated using
 'portversion'.  This doesn't seem correct...and if so portsnap would
 seem like a much better tool.  Perhaps I should be running 'make
 fetchindex' instead?  I'm sure I've read about the correct way to do so,
 but it doesn't appear to be here:
 https://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsSubversionPrimer

 Thanks in advance for any advice.


'make index' looks good to me, it's the right way to do things imo.

What bothers you, following 'make index', pkg version output seems dodgy ?
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Re:

2013-03-29 Thread Quartz



Personally I'm using FreeBSD _exclusively_ (!) on the desktop
since version 4.0, and I haven't missed _any_ common desktopy
thing that is required for my daily work.


I was referring to general intent when I wrote that. For example, bsd 
has poor support for things like sleep/suspend/hibernate. While desktops 
and laptops would certainly take advantage of those things, severs 
generally don't, so fixing it has traditionally been low priority. In 
contrast, linux has that working out of the box on almost all hardware. 
Likewise in my experience a number of other home-use things like laptop 
wifi are generally better supported under linux.


A similar situation exists for software, especially non-business 
software and oddball utilities. On bsd you can usually find something to 
do what you need, but you'll often be limited to one or two choices, 
whereas with linux you might have half a dozen. (Whether all these 
packages are GOOD or not is a separate issue :)


I'm not saying that bsd *can't* be used for a home desktop, it certainly 
can, but it was never aimed at the grandma+laptop market and the 
hardware support and software selection reflects that. But I don't hold 
that against bsd. You can't be all things to all people, bsd is very 
good for servers and linux is good for home use, and they each have 
their place.


__
it has a certain smooth-brained appeal
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Re: external hdd

2013-03-29 Thread Laszlo Danielisz
Thank you Chuck! 

I've tried fusefs-hfs a couple months ago and wasn't working very well.
So yeah, I might create some DOS partition to be shared.

Regards,
Laszlo

-- 
Laszlo Danielisz


On 2013 March 29 Friday at 6:06 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote:

 On Mar 28, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
  If I'm sharing an external 1TB HDD with FreeBSD and OS-X (I wan to use Time 
  Machine), what is the best file system to use?
 
 
 Time Machine is only supported on top of journaled HFS+; I'm not sure how 
 fusefs-hfs is doing on FreeBSD, though. Or you could setup multiple 
 partitions and have an exFAT partition for data interchange between other 
 OSes.
 
 Regards,
 -- 
 -Chuck
 
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Portsnap gets ports that claim to be out of date

2013-03-29 Thread John Levine
When I do portsnap update and try building stuff, I get errors like this:

Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 5: warning: You are using a ports file that originated 
from CVS!!
Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 6: warning: The FreeBSD project has switched from CVS to 
SubVersion.
Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 7: warning: This CVS repository is NO LONGER UPDATED!  
If you see this
Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 8: warning: message then your tree is STALE and you need 
to follow
Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 9: warning: the update instructions to receive any more 
updates.

I'm not using CVS, I'm using portsnap.  Any ideas?  It's a 9.1 system,
fully up to date as far as I know.

 
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