Re: 2 lines
On 30/07/2013 15:04, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote: However really not sure what is the best way - the only feasible solution I found so far is DNS faiolver http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/services/dns-failover-system-monitoring/. However I am not 100% sure how well it will work and if this may cause more troubles and embarrassment in front of the customer than simply giving them in a email gate1.example.com(primary) gate2.example.com(backup) I thought pfsense supported failover - or is that limited to outgoing? http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/File:RouterDiagram.png http://www.techvilleottawa.org/pfsense-load-balance-fail-over-setup/ Otherwise something like wackamole or heartbeat to keep the ip address alive? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Demise of kde3
With the final demise of kde3 and the deprecation of kdelibs three, is anyone aware of something similar to klibido or plans to port klibido to kde4? I'm guessing the lack of concern means there's a tiny userbase or people have already found something else and moved on. As a workaround, I've saved packages of klibido and kdelibs3/qt3 for those times when qt4 related ports fail to build in their presence so I can locally pkg_add them back in, but eventually kilibido and it's support libs are going to fail on a current system, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
xcdroast cannot locate cdda2wav
The xcdroast application use to work, but lately it has started to throw an error message. First, it would not let me start it unless I was root. I had long ago done the reacquired preliminary start-up as root. Now, when I attempt to start it as root, it emits this error message: ~ # xcdroast ** (xcdroast:96970): WARNING **: Invalid cdda2wav version -unknown- found. Expecting at least version 2.01 Start xcdroast with the -n option to override (not recommended!) ~ # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/xcdroast I have tried deleting the port and rebuilding it, but the same problem exists. I have not been able to locate cdda2wav on the system or in a port. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: xcdroast cannot locate cdda2wav
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:29:47 -0400, Jerry wrote: The xcdroast application use to work, but lately it has started to throw an error message. First, it would not let me start it unless I was root. I had long ago done the reacquired preliminary start-up as root. If you set device permissions properly, you should not have to do this (potentially dangerous) elevation of privileges. Now, when I attempt to start it as root, it emits this error message: ~ # xcdroast ** (xcdroast:96970): WARNING **: Invalid cdda2wav version -unknown- found. Expecting at least version 2.01 Start xcdroast with the -n option to override (not recommended!) ~ # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/xcdroast I have tried deleting the port and rebuilding it, but the same problem exists. That's a logical consequence, as cdda2wav is not part of this port, even though cdrtools is both defined as a build time and a runtime dependency... I have not been able to locate cdda2wav on the system or in a port. The cdda2wav program is part of the cdrtools port. Try updating that one. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2 lines
On 30/07/2013 10:42, Shane Ambler wrote: I thought pfsense supported failover - or is that limited to outgoing? http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/File:RouterDiagram.png http://www.techvilleottawa.org/pfsense-load-balance-fail-over-setup/ Otherwise something like wackamole or heartbeat to keep the ip address alive? This setup enables pfSense to load balance traffic from your LAN to multiple internet connections (WANs). .. This is only outgoing :( So so far 2 solutions: 1. Real one BGP, problem needs own ip range 2. DnsMadeEasy - cheap and easy ($34.50 per year), but not as good as BGP Peter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: xcdroast cannot locate cdda2wav
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:37:38 +0200 Polytropon articulated: The cdda2wav program is part of the cdrtools port. Try updating that one. Been there, done that, doesn't work. I am considering doing a forced update of the xcdroast port and its dependencies via portupgrade. I really hate wasting time like this, but I need the port to work. Interestingly enough, this is the output from cdda2wav: # cdda2wav -version cdda2wav 3.00 (amd64-unknown-freebsd8.3) Copyright (C) 1993-2004 Heiko Ei�feldt (C) 2004-2010 J�rg Schilling Defaults: stereo, 16 bit, 44100.00 Hz, track 1, no offset, one track, type: wav filename: 'audio', don't wait for signal, not quiet, use: 'generic_scsi', device: 'yourSCSI_Bus,yourSCSI_ID,yourSCSI_LUN', aux: '' Obviously, it is installed. The xcdroast application suddenly cannot locate it though or is not able to properly determine the version number. I am thinking of filing a PR against it. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
System hangs for several minutes (disk IO related)
Hi,
I'm seeing rather strange behavior on an HP DL585 G5 wrt. disk IO:
When there's any disk io the machine completely freezes, i.e. no
console input possible, no screen output - complete hang. After some
minutes the box comes back to normal again - but sure enough with the
next disk io it freezes again.
To give you a typical example: While a portsnap fetch extract was
running I did a sync. Normally this should complete in a matter of
milliseconds to seconds in the worst case - but dig this:
# date;time sync;date
Tue Jul 30 09:57:38 CEST 2013
0.000u 0.311s 9:54.69 0.0% 4+161k 0+1287io 0pf+0w
Tue Jul 30 10:07:38 CEST 2013
#
No, this is not a typo - it really took nearly ten minutes (!) for the
sync to complete. In the meantime - every windows, all activity
(console, screen-output etc.) is completely blocked. ('portsnap fetch
extract' was only given as an example here - the lockup occurs
whenever there is disk io like for example tar, etc).
We're speaking about a machine with decent hardware here, here's an
excerpt from dmesg:
-- Cut here --
FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253750: Mon Jul 29 11:07:04 CEST 2013
root@sniff-rz2:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
gcc version 4.2.1 20070831 patched [FreeBSD]
CPU: Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8358 SE (2411.16-MHz K8-class CPU)
Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x100f23 Family = 0x10 Model = 0x2 Stepping
= 3
Features=0x178bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT
Features2=0x802009SSE3,MON,CX16,POPCNT
AMD Features=0xee400800SYSCALL,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP,LM,3DNow!+,3DNow!
AMD Features2=0x7ffLAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch,OSVW,IBS
TSC: P-state invariant
real memory = 137438953472 (131072 MB)
avail memory = 132973432832 (126813 MB)
Event timer LAPIC quality 400
ACPI APIC Table: HP ProLiant
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 16 CPUs
...
ciss0: HP Smart Array P400 port 0x3000-0x30ff mem
0xd9e0-0xd9ef,0xd9df-0xd9df0fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci8
ciss0: PERFORMANT Transport
...
da0 at ciss0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0
da0: COMPAQ RAID 1(1+0) OK Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device
da0: 135.168MB/s transfers
da0: Command Queueing enabled
da0: 139979MB (286677120 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 35132C)
da0: quirks=0x1NO_SYNC_CACHE
-- Cut here --
Kernel: Latest kernel as of yesterday (9.2Beta)
BIOS: is at the latest level (Support pack as of Spring 2013)
installed which updated BIOS, iLO etc. Aside from that I reset BIOS to
default values just to be sure.
SmartArray P400 - Firmware 7.24 (latest)
Harddisks: Two 146GB HDs running in Raid1-mode. Already tried
hot-swapping the disks - didn't change anything.
Needless to say - no error message etc. in neither dmesg nor
/var/log/messages :-(
To me it looks like this is some sort of timing problem - but where
should I start looking?
Thanks much in advance for any help,
-ewald
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Re: xcdroast cannot locate cdda2wav
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:36:37 -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:37:38 +0200
Polytropon articulated:
The cdda2wav program is part of the cdrtools port.
Try updating that one.
Been there, done that, doesn't work. I am considering doing a forced
update of the xcdroast port and its dependencies via portupgrade.
That seems to be the best choice at the moment. The port's
Makefile contains --with-cdrtools-prefix=${LOCALBASE} which
suggests that the integration of cdrtools / cdda2wav might
already be important at compile time.
Also look at the option Use xcdroast w/o being root which
should enable you to use the program without being root (which
is not good in terms of security).
I
really hate wasting time like this, but I need the port to work.
This is a typical symptom of install once, then keep using,
and never touch it again. :-)
Interestingly enough, this is the output from cdda2wav:
# cdda2wav -version
cdda2wav 3.00 (amd64-unknown-freebsd8.3) Copyright (C) 1993-2004 Heiko
Ei�feldt (C) 2004-2010 J�rg Schilling
Defaults: stereo, 16 bit, 44100.00 Hz, track 1, no offset, one track,
type: wav filename: 'audio', don't wait for signal, not quiet,
use: 'generic_scsi', device:
'yourSCSI_Bus,yourSCSI_ID,yourSCSI_LUN', aux: ''
Obviously, it is installed.
Version 3.00 is better than 2.01 (required), so it should work.
But maybe xcdroast isn't just checking binary versions, but
also expects some kind of specific library version? At least
that kind of requirement should be resolved when you recompile
xcdroast _and_ its dependencies.
The xcdroast application suddenly cannot
locate it though or is not able to properly determine the version
number. I am thinking of filing a PR against it.
If an upgrade of all involved parts doesn't help, this seems
to be a good thing to do.
--
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: xcdroast cannot locate cdda2wav
Hi Jerry, cdrtools should be installed on your system. Please verify this with pkg_info. cdda2wav should then be installed in /usr/local/bin/cdda2wav Please check this. Greetings, Oliver Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: The xcdroast application use to work, but lately it has started to throw an error message. First, it would not let me start it unless I was root. I had long ago done the reacquired preliminary start-up as root. Now, when I attempt to start it as root, it emits this error message: ~ # xcdroast ** (xcdroast:96970): WARNING **: Invalid cdda2wav version -unknown- found. Expecting at least version 2.01 Start xcdroast with the -n option to override (not recommended!) ~ # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/xcdroast I have tried deleting the port and rebuilding it, but the same problem exists. I have not been able to locate cdda2wav on the system or in a port. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: xcdroast cannot locate cdda2wav
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:29:26 +0200 Oliver Lehmann articulated: cdrtools should be installed on your system. Please verify this with pkg_info. cdda2wav should then be installed in /usr/local/bin/cdda2wav Please check this. Please don't top post. I all ready posted regarding the installation of cdda2wav. It is there but either xcdroast doesn't find it or more likely, doesn't understand the version correctly. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fwd: Glen Peterson from Wisconsin. Some questions
Dear Sir: I have been thinking about installing your FreeBSD onto some of my extra PC's that I have laying around, just to see what that Unix OS can do on my PC. I have a few questions, though, before I order your Install Disk to do that. I spoke to your receptionist there on 30 July, and she suggested that I write to you with my detailed questions before I went ahead an purchased your well-recommended OS: 1. I have a Dell Dimension 3000 PC with a 32-bit Intel processor in it. It has 2G's of RAM, and a 250GB hard drive under Windows OS, currently. I use A.T.T. as my ISP and I have a DSL line supplied by A.T. T. May I install your OS onto an external 80 GB Seagate Barracuda ATA IV Model ST380021A hard drive, and boot off of that into BSD and have it run on that Dell computer? The BIOS Chip seems to support external drives and USB sticks, since I have successfully used the later to boot this PC into Debian Linux. 2. Do you have a version of your free BSD program with a graphical user interface (like that seen on Mac's and Windows boxes) that will run on that same Dell Dimension 300, mentioned above? 3. How much does the install CD cost me, including shipping to the Milwaukee area, for the Free BSD OS that will run on said computer? 4. I have another PC at work that has a 32-bit AMD chip in it with 1GB RAM and 250 GB under Vista OS, currently. Do you likewise have a version of your latest Free BSD that will run on THIS machine in a graphical environment like that mentioned for the Dell computer above from the same external 80 GB Seagate hard drive? 5. Does the OS come with an application, like I have observed with some Linux distros, that enables me to get updates as they become available? Does your FreeBSD come with its own browser? If not, may I still connect to the web by some means to obtain a BSD-compatible browser (e.g., Firefox) that will run on this OS on either of the two computers above? Sincerely, Glen A. Peterson Cedarburg, Wisconsin (262) 780-1856 (W, C.D.T.)but OK to call there) peterso...@aol.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Glen Peterson from Wisconsin. Some questions
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:56 PM, peterso...@aol.com wrote: Dear Sir: I have been thinking about installing your FreeBSD onto some of my extra PC's that I have laying around, just to see what that Unix OS can do on my PC. I have a few questions, though, before I order your Install Disk to do that. I spoke to your receptionist there on 30 July, and she suggested that I write to you with my detailed questions before I went ahead an purchased your well-recommended OS: 1. I have a Dell Dimension 3000 PC with a 32-bit Intel processor in it. It has 2G's of RAM, and a 250GB hard drive under Windows OS, currently. I use A.T.T. as my ISP and I have a DSL line supplied by A.T. T. May I install your OS onto an external 80 GB Seagate Barracuda ATA IV Model ST380021A hard drive, and boot off of that into BSD and have it run on that Dell computer? The BIOS Chip seems to support external drives and USB sticks, since I have successfully used the later to boot this PC into Debian Linux. 2. Do you have a version of your free BSD program with a graphical user interface (like that seen on Mac's and Windows boxes) that will run on that same Dell Dimension 300, mentioned above? 3. How much does the install CD cost me, including shipping to the Milwaukee area, for the Free BSD OS that will run on said computer? 4. I have another PC at work that has a 32-bit AMD chip in it with 1GB RAM and 250 GB under Vista OS, currently. Do you likewise have a version of your latest Free BSD that will run on THIS machine in a graphical environment like that mentioned for the Dell computer above from the same external 80 GB Seagate hard drive? 5. Does the OS come with an application, like I have observed with some Linux distros, that enables me to get updates as they become available? Does your FreeBSD come with its own browser? If not, may I still connect to the web by some means to obtain a BSD-compatible browser (e.g., Firefox) that will run on this OS on either of the two computers above? Sincerely, Glen A. Peterson Cedarburg, Wisconsin (262) 780-1856 (W, C.D.T.)but OK to call there) peterso...@aol.com You may find very good and detailed answers in the FreeBSD Handbook : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ and the following page may be utilized as a guide : http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html ( FreeBSD Documentation ) Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
dhclient and the LiveCD
hello list, when using the bootonly.iso from the ftp servers... if you drop to a shell, use dhclient to obtain an ipaddress.. well you get one.. but you have no DNS, because I think dhclient can't write to /etc/resolv.conf what is the correct way to fix this? -- Sam Fourman Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dhclient and the LiveCD
On Jul 30, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: hello list, when using the bootonly.iso from the ftp servers... if you drop to a shell, use dhclient to obtain an ipaddress.. well you get one.. but you have no DNS, because I think dhclient can't write to /etc/resolv.conf what is the correct way to fix this? Well, if its anything like the LiveCD option from there regular full iso, then you can do 2 things; issue; mkdir /tmp/etc mount_unionfs /tmp/etc /etc * this makes all things done on the fs temporary or issue; mount -rw / * renders anything you write permanent I do either of these during LiveCD sessions depending on my goals. Unsure if this pertains to bootonly.iso but perhaps it helps? I'm also very new to the FreeBSD scene so any one feel free to correct. - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fwd: Glen Peterson from Wisconsin. Some questions
On 31/07/2013 03:56, peterso...@aol.com wrote: I have been thinking about installing your FreeBSD onto some of my extra PC's that I have laying around, just to see what that Unix OS can do on my PC. I have a few questions, though, before I order your Install Disk to do that. I spoke to your receptionist there on 30 July, and she suggested that I write to you with my detailed questions before I went ahead an purchased your well-recommended OS: Receptionist? I don't believe we (FreeBSD) have anything like that. We're not a business; just a bunch of people that write an OS and make it available for anyone to use. Perhaps you spoke to one of the companies that sell FreeBSD derived products? Note that you can simply download FreeBSD CD and USB stick images for free (well, not counting anything you'ld have to pay for bandwidth) -- pre-written CDs come from third parties, but buying them will generally result in some money going to the FreeBSD foundation. 1. I have a Dell Dimension 3000 PC with a 32-bit Intel processor in it. It has 2G's of RAM, and a 250GB hard drive under Windows OS, currently. I use A.T.T. as my ISP and I have a DSL line supplied by A.T. T. May I install your OS onto an external 80 GB Seagate Barracuda ATA IV Model ST380021A hard drive, and boot off of that into BSD and have it run on that Dell computer? The BIOS Chip seems to support external drives and USB sticks, since I have successfully used the later to boot this PC into Debian Linux. Should work fine with FreeBSD. The best way to test for full compatibility is to boot from a USB stick or a live CD before installing on your hard drive. 2. Do you have a version of your free BSD program with a graphical user interface (like that seen on Mac's and Windows boxes) that will run on that same Dell Dimension 300, mentioned above? FreeBSD itself is just the basic operating system without any frills. Graphical environments are certainly available, but they are considered as add-ons and not part of FreeBSD itself. I suggest that instead of FreeBSD itself, you start with PC-BSD (http://www.pcbsd.org/) This is an integrated desktop system with all the graphical bits layered on top of the basic FreeBSD operating system. It's much more like what you'll have see when you tried out Debian, and as it has a nice graphical interface, it tends to be a lot easier for people new to the Unix command line. 3. How much does the install CD cost me, including shipping to the Milwaukee area, for the Free BSD OS that will run on said computer? It's free to download. You can buy a boxed set of CDs or a DVD from here: https://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm Looks like about $30 for CDs, $40 for a DVD. Plus shipping nd handling and the usual taxes. 4. I have another PC at work that has a 32-bit AMD chip in it with 1GB RAM and 250 GB under Vista OS, currently. Do you likewise have a version of your latest Free BSD that will run on THIS machine in a graphical environment like that mentioned for the Dell computer above from the same external 80 GB Seagate hard drive? Yes, FreeBSD has versions for both the i386 (Intel 32 bit) and amd64 (64 bit) architectures. Note that you'ld use amd64 for any 64bit capable intel type CPU, including ones from Intel specifically and not just ones from AMD. 5. Does the OS come with an application, like I have observed with some Linux distros, that enables me to get updates as they become available? Yes, in fact there are several different ways of doing this. If you try out PC-BSD as I suggest, it has built-in update mechanisms which will allow you to update from the net. Does your FreeBSD come with its own browser? If not, may I still connect to the web by some means to obtain a BSD-compatible browser (e.g., Firefox) that will run on this OS on either of the two computers above? FireFox and Chrome and a number of other web browsers certainly are available either as native FreeBSD applications, or by running the Linux applications under emulation. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Glen Peterson from Wisconsin. Some questions
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:56 PM, peterso...@aol.com wrote: Dear Sir: I have been thinking about installing your FreeBSD onto some of my extra PC's that I have laying around, just to see what that Unix OS can do on my PC. I have a few questions, though, before I order your Install Disk to do that. I spoke to your receptionist there on 30 July, and she suggested that I write to you with my detailed questions before I went ahead an purchased your well-recommended OS: 1. I have a Dell Dimension 3000 PC with a 32-bit Intel processor in it. It has 2G's of RAM, and a 250GB hard drive under Windows OS, currently. I use A.T.T. as my ISP and I have a DSL line supplied by A.T. T. May I install your OS onto an external 80 GB Seagate Barracuda ATA IV Model ST380021A hard drive, and boot off of that into BSD and have it run on that Dell computer? The BIOS Chip seems to support external drives and USB sticks, since I have successfully used the later to boot this PC into Debian Linux. 2. Do you have a version of your free BSD program with a graphical user interface (like that seen on Mac's and Windows boxes) that will run on that same Dell Dimension 300, mentioned above? 3. How much does the install CD cost me, including shipping to the Milwaukee area, for the Free BSD OS that will run on said computer? 4. I have another PC at work that has a 32-bit AMD chip in it with 1GB RAM and 250 GB under Vista OS, currently. Do you likewise have a version of your latest Free BSD that will run on THIS machine in a graphical environment like that mentioned for the Dell computer above from the same external 80 GB Seagate hard drive? 5. Does the OS come with an application, like I have observed with some Linux distros, that enables me to get updates as they become available? Does your FreeBSD come with its own browser? If not, may I still connect to the web by some means to obtain a BSD-compatible browser (e.g., Firefox) that will run on this OS on either of the two computers above? Sincerely, Glen A. Peterson Cedarburg, Wisconsin (262) 780-1856 (W, C.D.T.)but OK to call there) peterso...@aol.com Glen, First of all, FreeBSD is well FREE.. you don't need to purchase it, but you can donate to the FreeBSD foundation[2] a user friendly version of FreeBSD is available, it is named PC-BSD, they have dropped support for 32bit processors but you can still obtain old versions with 32bit support [3] you should note however, that unlike in the Linux world, PC-BSD is not a fork persay, it is plain vanilla FreeBSD under the hood, its just simply packaged in a way that makes it easy to use While The FreeBSD handbook is a great source of information, and everything you find there will apply to PC-BSD as well, there is a book that is very well written The Definitive Guide to PC-BSD [4] PCBSD provides updates via a graphical user interface, and they very closely track FreeBSD.. but as I stated earlier, while FreeBSD still actively supports the 32bit platform, PC-BSD has decided not to. on a side note, I am also from Wisconsin, feel free to contact me via gmail chat sfour...@gmail.com, I will assist you in anyway I can Have a Great Day, Sam Fourman Jr. [1] ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/9.1/FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso [2]http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/ [3]ftp://ftp.pcbsd.org/pub/archived/8.2/i386/ [4]https://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/pcbsdguide?id=MhtF3J72mv_pc=194 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
