Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor)

2013-08-05 Thread Eugene

Hello Gary,

Also make sure there is no packed dirt on the heatsink -- I don't know about 
AMDs, but older Intel heatsinks often tend to accumulate a paper-like layer 
of dirt on the 'top' of heatsink grid, blocking the airflow. I once had 
several thermal shutdowns on my home PC before I found that. This does not 
seem to happen with newer heatsinks so they must have changed the design 
somehow =)


Best wishes
Eugene

-Original Message- 
From: Peter Giessel

Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 8:23 AM
To: Gary Aitken
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor)

You can also try shutting down (obviously), then removing the heat sink, put 
some thermal paste on the processor and reinstall the heat sink.  Sometimes 
there isn't much (any) thermal paste there and the processor can't get the 
heat into the heat sink.


On 2013, Aug 4, at 15:22, Gary Aitken vagab...@blackfoot.net wrote:


Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast when a
build is going on.


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Update /usr/src with subversion

2013-08-05 Thread David Noel
Does anyone know how a workaround for having to rm -rf /usr/src every
time the source URL changes? I'm updating from 8.3 to 8.4 with
subversion and got a message along the lines of Error: /usr/src/
contains files from a different URL. -David
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Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor)

2013-08-05 Thread Frank Leonhardt

On 05/08/2013 06:05, Gary Aitken wrote:

On 08/04/13 21:39, Frank Leonhardt wrote:
This suggests it's not the ACPI in FreeBSD shutting you down, but
something on the motherboard.
That was my guess as well.

big snip

As it's probably not FreeBSD you're now asking on the wrong list, and 
other than cooling advice you're not going to get much (unless there are 
any closet over-clockers hereabouts). Personally I favour filling the 
whole case with a pumped fluorocarbon like FC-77 and using a heat 
exchanger to take the heat away in water to use in a fountain in my 
hallway ;-)


The one sensible suggestion no one has made is to check if a BIOS 
upgrade doesn't fix it. As to getting FreeBSD to manage it instead of 
the BIOS: Unfortunately not all chipsets and motherboards are supported. 
If you want to add support yourself see:


/usr/src/sys/dev/acpica

If you want to get some idea of what you're up against see:

/usr/src/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_quirks

I've thought about it a few times but real work always got in the way.

Regards, Frank.

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Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor)

2013-08-05 Thread Perry Hutchison
Gary Aitken vagab...@blackfoot.net wrote:

 Air ducting shouldn't be a problem; I've got the side of the case off...

This just might be part of the problem.  Air plumbing
is not as forgiving as it was in the old days.
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Re: Update /usr/src with subversion

2013-08-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 05/08/2013 09:00, David Noel wrote:
 Does anyone know how a workaround for having to rm -rf /usr/src every
 time the source URL changes? I'm updating from 8.3 to 8.4 with
 subversion and got a message along the lines of Error: /usr/src/
 contains files from a different URL. -David

You need 'svn switch' -- so, if you've got some other branch checked
out, and you want to have 8.4-RELEASE instead, then it's something like:

   # svn switch ^/base/releng/8.4

This will speedily change your checked out tree with minimal network IO.

You can also use 'svn switch --relocate' to change which svn servers you
have the tree checked out from or the protocol (svn://, https:// etc)
used.  See the output of 'svn help switch' for details.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Update /usr/src with subversion

2013-08-05 Thread David Noel
Ok great, thanks Matthew. I tried a different search query and
actually found a similar question on the forums:
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=35014

Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: rm -r
/usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch.

I'll check out the man for svn switch.

Thanks again,

-David

On 8/5/13, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote:
 On 05/08/2013 09:00, David Noel wrote:
 Does anyone know how a workaround for having to rm -rf /usr/src every
 time the source URL changes? I'm updating from 8.3 to 8.4 with
 subversion and got a message along the lines of Error: /usr/src/
 contains files from a different URL. -David

 You need 'svn switch' -- so, if you've got some other branch checked
 out, and you want to have 8.4-RELEASE instead, then it's something like:

# svn switch ^/base/releng/8.4

 This will speedily change your checked out tree with minimal network IO.

 You can also use 'svn switch --relocate' to change which svn servers you
 have the tree checked out from or the protocol (svn://, https:// etc)
 used.  See the output of 'svn help switch' for details.

   Cheers,

   Matthew

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Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor)

2013-08-05 Thread RW
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:33:55 +0400
Eugene wrote:

 Hello Gary,
 
 Also make sure there is no packed dirt on the heatsink -- I don't
 know about AMDs, but older Intel heatsinks often tend to accumulate a
 paper-like layer of dirt on the 'top' of heatsink grid, blocking the
 airflow. I once had several thermal shutdowns on my home PC before I
 found that. This does not seem to happen with newer heatsinks so they
 must have changed the design somehow =)

I had a AMD Phenom II X4 and it had exactly that problem. Every few
months I had to remove the fan to get a brush into the fins. An idle
temperature of 45 C sounds about right for one that's been neglected.
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deleting managed content using svn

2013-08-05 Thread Robert Huff

I have a system that uses svn to track src+ports+doc.
For reasons I won't get into, I want to scrub all svn-managed
material under src in preparation for grabbing a completely clean
copy.
Neither on-system documentation nor the deeper documentation
listed therein show how to do this.  Or at least not in a way my
brain is currently processing.  :-)
Is there a better way than rm -rf?

Respectfully,


Robert Huff


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Re: deleting managed content using svn

2013-08-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 05/08/2013 13:18, Robert Huff wrote:
 
   I have a system that uses svn to track src+ports+doc.
   For reasons I won't get into, I want to scrub all svn-managed
 material under src in preparation for grabbing a completely clean
 copy.

In principle SVN will be able to tell you if your checked out copy
differs at all from what is in the repo.  However, given you've said you
don't want to do that

   Neither on-system documentation nor the deeper documentation
 listed therein show how to do this.  Or at least not in a way my
 brain is currently processing.  :-)
   Is there a better way than rm -rf?

Nope.  rm -rf of the checked out filesystem is going to blow away
everything you had and let you start again from scratch.  The only
things that could remain are entries under ~/.subversion (or
/root/.subversion) which will contain such things as records of SSL keys
to trust or login details if you needed a password for access.  You
probably don't need to worry about doing anything to those.

Cheers,

Matthew




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Re: deleting managed content using svn

2013-08-05 Thread Robert Huff

Matthew Seaman writes:

  For reasons I won't get into, I want to scrub all svn-managed
   material under src in preparation for grabbing a completely clean
   copy.
  
  Is there a better way than rm -rf?
  
  Nope.  rm -rf of the checked out filesystem is going to blow away
  everything you had and let you start again from scratch.  The only
  things that could remain are entries under ~/.subversion (or
  /root/.subversion) which will contain such things as records of SSL keys
  to trust or login details if you needed a password for access.  You
  probably don't need to worry about doing anything to those.

Thanks.


Robert Huff

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Re: Update /usr/src with subversion

2013-08-05 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 5 Aug 2013, David Noel wrote:


Ok great, thanks Matthew. I tried a different search query and
actually found a similar question on the forums:
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=35014


That is an outdated thread.  Ignore it.


Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: rm -r
/usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch.

I'll check out the man for svn switch.


The new form is just 'svn relocate':
http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=224243postcount=5
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Re: Update /usr/src with subversion

2013-08-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 05/08/2013 14:22, Warren Block wrote:
 Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: rm -r
 /usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch.

 I'll check out the man for svn switch.
 
 The new form is just 'svn relocate':
 http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=224243postcount=5

Just to be clear:

  'svn relocate' is the new form for 'svn switch --relocate', used to
   change the servers or the protocol (or both) used to access the
   repository.

  'svn switch' (without the --relocate argument) is still valid and is
   used to switch between branches within the repo.

It's just 'svn switch --relocate' which is deprecated.

Cheers,

Matthew
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Re: Make Release

2013-08-05 Thread Rick Miller
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Amitabh Kant amitabhk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Devin Teske  Rick Miller have a fairly extensive explanation on their
 blogs on how to create your own modified iso's. Search the archives for
 links. Hopefully they can chime in with their respective links.

Sorry to show up late for the discussion...

Devin Teske definitely has more experience and knowledge than I.
However, several of my blog posts may have relevant and helpful
information on customizing images.  There's not really one single
answer as it depends largely on what you're looking to do.

My customized images use a scripted sysinstall install.cfg that
fetches a dynamically generated answer file from Cobbler.  The answer
file is based on a text template which includes Cheetah calls to
Cobbler snippets for various things, including modifying the rc.conf.
All lines modifying the rc.conf are placed in the answer file
following the installCommit resword.

Also understand that we replaced the http media type module with our
own permitting direct http installs.  In 8.4 or newer, there is a new
media type called httpDirect (or similar) that accomplishes this as
well.

Here are some posts you may find helpful:

http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2013/04/11/installing-freebsd-via-cobbler/
http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/10/08/building-freebsd-media-with-custom-packages/
http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/05/08/using-sysinstall-for-automated-freebsd-8-x-installs/

Bear in mind this applies specifically to FreeBSD 8.x.  I will begin
attacking 9.x in the coming months and anticipate more blog posts on
accomplishing similar tasks within 9.x.

-- 
Take care
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Re: disk is AWOL

2013-08-05 Thread Dieter BSD
 8.2 amd64
 ad8 is a 3TB Seagate on nforce4-ultra controller

 At boot:
 ad8: 2861588MB ST3000DM001 9YN166 CC4B at ata4-master UDMA100 SATA 3Gb/s
 DEBUG g_part_gpt.c gpt_read_hdr() ad8 succeeded with pp-sectorsize=512

 An hour later:
 # dd if=/dev/ad8 bs=4k count=1 of=/dev/null
 dd: /dev/ad8: No such file or directory

 BUT: there was no ad8: FAILURE - device detached or similar message
 on the console, in dmesg, or in /var/log/*.  The disk just disappeared
 without a peep from the kernel. What's going on?

Frank writes:
 Is this repeatable? Does it appear when you reboot and then vanish
 after a period of time?

The disk reappeared after a reboot, and is still there working fine
(both read and write) after over 21 hours.

 At boot, what does atacontrol list say,

Before reboot:

ATA channel 4:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present

After reboot:

ATA channel 4:
Master:  ad8 ST3000DM001-9YN166/CC4B Serial ATA II
Slave:   no device present

(It shouldn't even report a slave for the SATA ports, since SATA doesn't
*have* slaves.)

 and what about before and after you've tried to read from the drive?

No change, even after being up over 21 hours.
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Re: Update /usr/src with subversion

2013-08-05 Thread David Noel
Thanks, guys!

On 8/5/13, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote:
 On 05/08/2013 14:22, Warren Block wrote:
 Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: rm -r
 /usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch.

 I'll check out the man for svn switch.

 The new form is just 'svn relocate':
 http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=224243postcount=5

 Just to be clear:

   'svn relocate' is the new form for 'svn switch --relocate', used to
change the servers or the protocol (or both) used to access the
repository.

   'svn switch' (without the --relocate argument) is still valid and is
used to switch between branches within the repo.

 It's just 'svn switch --relocate' which is deprecated.

   Cheers,

   Matthew

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Re: Update /usr/src with subversion

2013-08-05 Thread David Noel
On 8/5/13, David Noel david.i.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, guys!

 On 8/5/13, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote:
 On 05/08/2013 14:22, Warren Block wrote:
 Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: rm -r
 /usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch.

 I'll check out the man for svn switch.

 The new form is just 'svn relocate':
 http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=224243postcount=5

 Just to be clear:

   'svn relocate' is the new form for 'svn switch --relocate', used to
change the servers or the protocol (or both) used to access the
repository.

   'svn switch' (without the --relocate argument) is still valid and is
used to switch between branches within the repo.

 It's just 'svn switch --relocate' which is deprecated.

Ooops. Top-posted. I always forget. Does anyone know how to change the
default reply behavior of gmail? Last I searched the only way to do
it was with a greasemonkey script...
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Re: Update /usr/src with subversion

2013-08-05 Thread Mark Felder
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013, at 10:16, David Noel wrote:
 
 Ooops. Top-posted. I always forget. Does anyone know how to change the
 default reply behavior of gmail? Last I searched the only way to do
 it was with a greasemonkey script...


Google still hasn't figure out how to bottom post. Can you imagine how
awful their internal emails are?
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Re: Update /usr/src with subversion

2013-08-05 Thread staticsafe
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:16:43AM -0500, David Noel wrote:
 Ooops. Top-posted. I always forget. Does anyone know how to change the
 default reply behavior of gmail? Last I searched the only way to do
 it was with a greasemonkey script...

You can try using Gmail with a MUA, like mutt or Thunderbird. Gmail
supports IMAP and SMTP access.

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Re: virtualbox-ose fails to build on FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253698

2013-08-05 Thread felix zhao
How to svn to 9-stable, make world (etc)? How to delete all installed ports? 
And then rm -rf /usr/local/*?
Nice hints!

Felix
发自我的 iPad

在 2013-8-5,3:53,John free...@growveg.net 写道:

 On 02/08/2013 16:54, John wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 I'm trying to install virtualbox on a new machine running
 FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253698. The ports version is 324162. Is it a
 problem with the port or my machine?
 
 This was fixed by:
 
 commenting everything out of /etc/make.conf
 svn to 9-stable, make world (etc) reboot
 then deleting all installed ports
 then removing everything from /usr/local
 then rm -rf /usr/ports
 portsnap
 install svn then checkout ports
 install virtualbox-ose
 
 sorry for the noise
 -- 
 John
 
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Tablet PCs and FreeBSD?

2013-08-05 Thread cpghost
Hello list,

what's the status of FreeBSD/arm w.r.t. Tablet PCs?
Is there ANY tablet out there that managed to at
least boot FreeBSD? (I'm not talking about Xorg etc,
just a simple console with FreeBSD base system would
suffice for now -- even NetBSD would be great)

I'm looking for a Tablet PC that runs Linux/arm (not
just Android), and it would be nice if that model was
also able to run FreeBSD; and if not now, so in the
foreseeable future.

Any suggestions w.r.t. models?

Thanks,

-cpghost.

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Re: Tablet PCs and FreeBSD?

2013-08-05 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM, cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote:

 Hello list,

 what's the status of FreeBSD/arm w.r.t. Tablet PCs?
 Is there ANY tablet out there that managed to at
 least boot FreeBSD? (I'm not talking about Xorg etc,
 just a simple console with FreeBSD base system would
 suffice for now -- even NetBSD would be great)

 I'm looking for a Tablet PC that runs Linux/arm (not
 just Android), and it would be nice if that model was
 also able to run FreeBSD; and if not now, so in the
 foreseeable future.

 Any suggestions w.r.t. models?


All I can recall was this thread(read whole thing):

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-November/246404.html

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Re: Tablet PCs and FreeBSD?

2013-08-05 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM, cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote:

 Hello list,

 what's the status of FreeBSD/arm w.r.t. Tablet PCs?
 Is there ANY tablet out there that managed to at
 least boot FreeBSD? (I'm not talking about Xorg etc,
 just a simple console with FreeBSD base system would
 suffice for now -- even NetBSD would be great)

 I'm looking for a Tablet PC that runs Linux/arm (not
 just Android), and it would be nice if that model was
 also able to run FreeBSD; and if not now, so in the
 foreseeable future.

 Any suggestions w.r.t. models?


 All I can recall was this thread(read whole thing):


 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-November/246404.html


Also asking on freebsd-arm might get you farther.
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php problems

2013-08-05 Thread Mark Moellering
A few years ago (2011) I set up an email system for a small internet 
based company.  I used postfix with a mysql backend for virtual 
accounts.  I also set up apache to test a php based webmail front-end.
I set up several php scripts that would run from cron that would query a 
database and look for new email account requests and then do a variety 
of tasks to get everything set up properly.
After I left, someone else made modifications to the system and things 
stopped working properly.  A few months ago I was asked to try and get 
things working again.


I discovered that all php scripts now generate a seg fault.

I tried a simple hello world type program
the actual code is :
?php
echo test
?
and the output was;

testsegmentation fault

The system is FreeBSD 8.2 and php 5.3

If anyone has any idea of what changes might have been made that could 
cause this, please let me know.  My other thought was to try 
reinstalling / upgrading php.


Thanks in advance

Mark Moellering
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