Re: Freebsd support in Adelaide wanted
I considered dropping FreeBSD-questions from this reply, but since it contains out-of-date contact details, I'm leaving them in. On Saturday, 21 September 2013 at 17:17:07 +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi, Reference: From:Danny Beger da...@beger.com.au Date:Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:30:57 +0930 Danny Beger wrote: I have a small law firm in Adelaide and I am looking to engage someone to build / purchase a new server to replace my current server which runs v6 freebsd. Can you recommend anyone? Happily, http://www.berklix.com/consultants/table.html shows Mike Smith in Adelaide +61 8 8267 3493 That's massively out of date. Mike left Adelaide in 1998, and has been working for Apple in Cupertino for about 10 years. Greg Lehey in Echunga +61 8 83888286 That's out of date too. I left Adelaide over 6 years ago. Up-to-date information at http://www.lemis.com/grog/ . Both are well know in FreeBSD community :-) I've cc'd them both Thanks. Danny did in fact contact me directly, and I think we've found somebody for him. PS for other consultants: If you want to be added to geographic indexed table just email me a pre-prepared HTML table enty See: http://www.berklix.com/consultants/ It would certainly be a good idea for more eyes to go through this list and help you get it up to date. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger g...@freebsd.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua pgpq8FhBNt4Hc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: why I am upset
On Saturday, 22 January 2005 at 9:53:53 +, d...@safeport.com wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2012, Warren Block wrote: There can be a tremendous investment of time in using software, whether free or not. Money too, often. Those who work to write, port, and support free software also spend a tremendous amount of time in doing that. Money too, often. So both parties have a large investment, and it's easy but counterproductive to get emotional about it. Take a deep breath, be polite, and try to appreciate the other guy's problems. Otherwise it just ends up creating more problems, and there are already enough. Warren makes a great point. In years past Greg Lehey used to post, How to ask a question, or something similar. How to get best results from FreeBSD questions. Its worth resurrecting that. It's still there in the FreeBSD web site: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ If people are getting upset, maybe it's worth reading it again. As I recall, the major points were: Nobody here is getting paid to do this; there are a great number of people with a wealth of information willing to help; and, its up to the one asking the question to do it in such a way as to peak someones interest. Yes, that's a good paraphrase. FWIW I think that Mitja has a point, even if in his frustration he put it badly. It's a pity that nobody here tried to get him to calm down and say what went wrong or enter a PR. While it's true that we're all volunteers, that doesn't mean we shouldn't be proud of our product and want to fix it if things go wrong. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer Finger g...@freebsd.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua pgpDR3Bd6XYke.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can't open serial line /dev/cuaa0: no such file or direcotry (2)
[format recovered] On Friday, 21 January 2011 at 0:04:12 +, Mike Adams wrote: To whom it may concern: I'm using a programme called tempcontrol from Greg Lehey on a Dell pentium running BSD 6. Do you mean FreeBSD 6.x? I'm assuming so in the following. When I run the programme, I get the above error. ls /dev shows that there is no cuaa0, only cuad0. I see that this was changed to standardize naming conventions. I've tried sh makedev cuaa0, but get the errorCan't open makedev: no such file or directory. makedev is obsolete. I should be most grateful if someone can get me over this problem The device you're looking for is either /dev/ttyd0 or (probably) /dev/cuad0. Quite possibly either would work. Set it in your temperaturecontrolrc file. Let me know if it works, and I'll update the sources. On Friday, 21 January 2011 at 12:51:25 +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 00:04:12 +, Mike Adams mike.adams2...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried sh makedev cuaa0, but get the errorCan't open makedev: no such file or directory. I think sh MAKEDEV would be the correct call. From MAKEDEV(8): DESCRIPTION The MAKEDEV script was deprecated by devfs(5) and removed from FreeBSD after devfs(5) became mandatory. Basically, it can't work because the meaning of major and minor numbers has changed. You could try to add a line like linkcuad0 cuaa0 to /etc/devfs.conf and then # /etc/rc.d/devfs restart That would be the wrong solution. Programs that come in source can be modified, and in this case the program provides for alternative device names. but I may be possible that the program you're intending to use does require the conventional serial driver ... I'm not aware of any such program. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/email/signed-mail.php for more details. If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua pgpjN45nj0Hgs.pgp Description: PGP signature
FreeBSD based web hosting?
I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me. Ideally I'd like a complete machine, but a jail would do too. I can find plenty of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany. Can anybody point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use? Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you want. Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so please don't reply only to the list. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp5Hy34DN4Wp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2TB (and above) Disk
On Tuesday, 3 July 2007 at 17:09:33 +0200, Dave Raven wrote: Hi all, Firstly I am using FreeBSD 4, I know it's not supported but hopefully someone has some experience with large disks on 4. Yes. Various geometry issues limit them to 1 TB in size. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpQMM0hIyqId.pgp Description: PGP signature
Keyboard problems with xorg 7.2 and Dell Inspiron 5100?
I've just upgraded my Inspiron 5100 to the latest and greatest X.org release, 7.2. Using the standard configuration options (either no config file, or the one generated by X -configure), most keys on the keyboard don't react. I've ran xev against the server and find that the only keys that react are the modifier keys. The same machine runs fine with Knoppix 5.2, which has X.org 7.1.1, and it ran fine under FreeBSD with a previous version of X.org 6.9.mumble. Looking at the log file, nothing obvious reaches out and grabs me. In particular, the keyboard-related information corresponds exactly with the Knoppix log file (modulo keyboard layout). Has anybody else seen this? Any ideas? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpglC745KBJM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dual monitors?
On Tuesday, 8 May 2007 at 18:15:52 -0500, Jonathan Horne wrote: anyone out there running dual monitors in FreeBSD? Yes. if so, what is your setup? single display adapter/2 heads, or 2 seperate adapters? I'm using separate adaptors. Take a look at http://www.lemis.com/grog/hardware.html for more details. i have a nvidia 7300 GS with 2 heads, and im thinking about picking up another monitor like im currently runing, before the *blip* off the market, but im hoping that it wont be a problem to set up xorg for 2 monitors, with just a single adapter. X.org is getting better at this all the time. You have a good chance that it will run first time, even without a config file. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpQUyjZF5PTt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dual monitors?
On Tuesday, 8 May 2007 at 17:22:15 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2007, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: If you follow up on something I wrote, please copy me. See http://www.lemis.com/questions.html for more details. On Tuesday, 8 May 2007 at 18:15:52 -0500, Jonathan Horne wrote: i have a nvidia 7300 GS with 2 heads, and im thinking about picking up another monitor like im currently runing, before the *blip* off the market, but im hoping that it wont be a problem to set up xorg for 2 monitors, with just a single adapter. X.org is getting better at this all the time. You have a good chance that it will run first time, even without a config file. You will have to specify the screen layout properly though in your xorg.conf. My understanding is that if you don't specify a layout, X.org will choose one for you. If you're happy, that's fine. This is the same proviso as for many other configuration parameters, notably screen resolution. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgptyZDeZ0PeO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?
On Thursday, 3 May 2007 at 9:25:54 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote: On 5/3/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, 1 May 2007 at 9:01:26 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote: On 4/30/07, Erik Osterholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you post your Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf? When Theory != Practice, it's often helpful to have information like this to help determine what went wrong, so that in the future, Theory can == Practice. Here you go: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log from this morning. I don't see the Xorg.0.log. Also, it would be interesting to see how the xorg.conf differs from the one you got from X -configure. The xorg.conf differs quite a lot. And how? Does it work? I used xorgconfig instead of X -configure , but xorgconfig doesn't autodetect any of the ranges, so there were none in the original file. Here's a cut'n'paste of the Xorg.0.log sent earlier: You didn't send it. This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. It is not supported in any way. Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. Select the xorg product for bugs you find in this release. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the latest version in the X.Org Foundation CVS repository. See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/CvsPage for CVS access instructions. X Window System Version 6.8.99.903 (6.9.0 RC 3) Release Date: 03 December 2005 + cvs Where did you get this from? 6.2-RELEASE used 6.9.0 release. Try rebuilding from the Ports Collection. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgprKXEk3llAW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?
On Thursday, 3 May 2007 at 11:16:04 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote: On 5/3/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, 3 May 2007 at 9:25:54 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote: On 5/3/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, 1 May 2007 at 9:01:26 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote: On 4/30/07, Erik Osterholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you post your Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf? When Theory != Practice, it's often helpful to have information like this to help determine what went wrong, so that in the future, Theory can == Practice. Here you go: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log from this morning. I don't see the Xorg.0.log. Also, it would be interesting to see how the xorg.conf differs from the one you got from X -configure. The xorg.conf differs quite a lot. And how? Does it work? For the currently applicable definition of work, no. I get a warning message from X.org every time I boot. OK. Either you give me information on what happens, or I'll drop the case. What warning message? Why when you boot? What does the screen look like? What does the Xorg.0.log look like? I used xorgconfig instead of X -configure , but xorgconfig doesn't autodetect any of the ranges, so there were none in the original file. Here's a cut'n'paste of the Xorg.0.log sent earlier: You didn't send it. According to Gmail, I did. Here's what arrived here: Here you go: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log from this morning. ... [-- Attachment #2: xorg.conf --] [-- Type: application/octet-stream, Encoding: base64, Size: 6.0K --] [-- application/octet-stream is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] [-- Attachment #3 --] [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.2K --] I copied the file from the email I sent :) Is it also in the mail you received? It's definitely not here. This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. It is not supported in any way. Where did you get this from? 6.2-RELEASE used 6.9.0 release. Try rebuilding from the Ports Collection. I burned the 6.2-RELEASE CD from freebsd.org. After installing a lot of software, From where? I ran portupgrade -a . Surely, I should have the same or newer than the release by then? Based on your statements, it's hard to say. Also, pkg_version -vIL= right now doesn't list X.org. This suggests that you installed it from elsewhere. As I said, Try rebuilding from the Ports Collection. I've given you a whole lot of suggestions. If you feel like trying some of them, please report with useful feedback. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp4G0aObtIPC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?
On Thursday, 3 May 2007 at 13:13:07 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote: On 5/3/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK. Either you give me information on what happens, or I'll drop the case. What warning message? Please read the rest of the thread. Find somebody else to solve your problem. Or better still, do it yourself. You're wasting many people's time. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpmtpIDNRuMh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?
On Tuesday, 1 May 2007 at 9:28:27 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote: On 5/1/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, 30 April 2007 at 11:02:54 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote: I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude D610. I've tried the values presented in MonitorsDB http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/src/hwdata/MonitorsDB?view=markup for Dell 1400x1050 Laptop Display Panel, which are HorizSync 31.5-90.0 and VertRefresh 59.0-75.0, but I get a warning in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for both of them saying they are not within DDC ranges. I've tried looking around the Dell web pages, but I haven't found any pages mentioning these parameters (not too surprising, really). I've tried to leave these settings out, but even then I get a warning: (WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 60-66.3158kHz not within DDC hsync ranges. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the other warnings I get during startup: (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum and (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed. This, along with the follow-ups, reminds me of a problem I had with a Dell Inspiron 5100 some years ago. In that case, X didn't map the video BIOS correctly, and so it wasn't able to read the information from the BIOS. The information includes things like the panel geometry, which in my case was being reported as 65535x65535 pixels. In your case we have: # From Xorg.0.log DisplaySize 286 214 That's clearly wrong too. It's equal to the values in the documentationhttp://support.euro.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/latd610/en/ug_en/specs.htm, rounded off to integers. Yes, my bad. I was confusing it with the number of pixels. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-jul2003.html#25 for more details. It's worth mentioning that the problem was fixed in a later version of the system, and I can now install X on it with no problems. If this looks familiar, a couple of suggestions: 1: Try XFree86. Maybe that will work better. I'm a bit reluctant to straying away from the recommended setup on my work machine. Even if the recommended setup doesn't work? Note that we have both in the ports collection, so the definition of recommended sounds more like default to me. Besides, isn't the code base for this and X.org still very similar? Yes, but there have been many edge cases where one works and the other doesn't. In general, X.org brings better results, but it's worth a try. 2: Get hold of the latest Knoppix CD and see if that works. If it does, it might help fix the problem under FreeBSD. Do you mean running Xorg -configure and see if it gives the right information? No. If not, could you elaborate a bit? Thanks! Get hold of the latest Knoppix CD from http://www.knoppix.org/, burn it to CD, boot from it and see if that works. Knoppix is a Linux distribution that runs from CD, so it's good for this kind of test. I note that none of the other messages that have gone by in this thread have addressed what I consider to be the crucial point: you have a BIOS mapping issue. It would be interesting to know what version of FreeBSD you're running. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpn5aLc4Uhzx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?
On Tuesday, 1 May 2007 at 9:01:26 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote: On 4/30/07, Erik Osterholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you post your Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf? When Theory != Practice, it's often helpful to have information like this to help determine what went wrong, so that in the future, Theory can == Practice. Here you go: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log from this morning. I don't see the Xorg.0.log. Also, it would be interesting to see how the xorg.conf differs from the one you got from X -configure. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpo9gxF4vDnB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?
On Monday, 30 April 2007 at 11:02:54 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude D610. I've tried the values presented in MonitorsDB http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/src/hwdata/MonitorsDB?view=markup for Dell 1400x1050 Laptop Display Panel, which are HorizSync 31.5-90.0 and VertRefresh 59.0-75.0, but I get a warning in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for both of them saying they are not within DDC ranges. I've tried looking around the Dell web pages, but I haven't found any pages mentioning these parameters (not too surprising, really). I've tried to leave these settings out, but even then I get a warning: (WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 60-66.3158kHz not within DDC hsync ranges. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the other warnings I get during startup: (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum and (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed. This, along with the follow-ups, reminds me of a problem I had with a Dell Inspiron 5100 some years ago. In that case, X didn't map the video BIOS correctly, and so it wasn't able to read the information from the BIOS. The information includes things like the panel geometry, which in my case was being reported as 65535x65535 pixels. In your case we have: # From Xorg.0.log DisplaySize 286 214 That's clearly wrong too. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-jul2003.html#25 for more details. It's worth mentioning that the problem was fixed in a later version of the system, and I can now install X on it with no problems. If this looks familiar, a couple of suggestions: 1: Try XFree86. Maybe that will work better. 2: Get hold of the latest Knoppix CD and see if that works. If it does, it might help fix the problem under FreeBSD. 3: Use the method I described in my diary to build a server with a static version of the video BIOS. The real answer, of course, is to understand why the mapping doesn't work (if, indeed, that's the problem). But this could be a start. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp1yqPd2eb2r.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.5 hardware support
On Sunday, 29 April 2007 at 17:56:23 -0800, Harry Veltman wrote: Does 5.5 support my ELSA GLoria Synergy 8 MByte, Driver version 5.36.00.382, OpenGL version 1.1 2.01.14.128 video card? I purchased and installed version 4.8 several years ago, but it didn't seem to like the video card. This is more likely to be a question of X support, right? In any case, FreeBSD 5.5 is no longer supported. You should upgrade to 6.2 for that reason alone. Check the X.org web site to find out whether the card is supported or not. The driver version is completely irrelevant, since you won't be using it. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgphVNwTfBOFe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: change xorg video resolution
On Thursday, 29 March 2007 at 21:55:58 -0300, freenity wrote: Hello. I have a strange problem with my xorg configuration. It only runs at 1024x768, but I want to change it to 1280x1024. This is the screen section from my /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes1280x1024 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes 1280x1024 EndSubSection This is a duplicate of the previous subsection (same bit depth). But it steal running at 1024x768. What does xdpyinfo say? You should see something like depth of root window:24 planes You will need a subsection entry for this depth. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp8TY1CywPw4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SOLVED: Re: Problems with burncd - cannot mount result on unix or windows
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Line length unified. On Thursday, 22 March 2007 at 16:16:58 -0700, UCTC Sysadmin wrote: In looking at the documentation for cdrecord, the examples showed a two-step process of making an ISO image then burning it. Here's my deal: NEVER HAVING BURNED a CD or DVD on FreeBSD before - I go to the documentation to FIND OUT HOW and there really is no HOW You mention documentation above, but you don't say what you're referring to. So I look in vain for What you need to do in the kernel if anything to support burning CDs/DVDs What additional support libraries or software would be needed The stepwise process for burning CDs or DVDs What's wrong with the information in the handbook? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html So THE FAQ and/or HOWTO SUCKS, is the problem. I see two problems, both of them different: - You don't say what you read, and what you didn't understand about it. - You didn't submit an update. If that offends purists, I think what's more likely to offend is a complaint without substantiation. I'm not saying that there are no errors in the documentation--of course there are--but how can we fix them (if they exist) based on your rant? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpyICFizbfKZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Experience with nVidia Quadro NVS210S and nForce 430 Chipset?
I'm looking at purchasing a motherboard with the Quadro NVS210S and nForce 430 Chipset (see http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=764), and I'm wondering if anybody has experience with it. In particular: - does the nVidia binary graphics driver support this chip? I can't see it mentioned on the nVidia site. - how well does the Ethernet NIC work? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp4N45K1C6Wd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MySQL Startup Script
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Single line message. [Moving to -questions; this isn't really a ports issue] On Monday, 5 March 2007 at 23:28:53 -0800, Drew Jenkins wrote: I built MySQL 5.1 from port on FBSD 6.2. But it doesn't start up on boot. There's a mysql-server script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ but if I try and fire that up from the command line it doesn't start. What do I need to do? You could start by saying how you invoked the script and what happened when you tried. You should see: # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server start Starting mysql. Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgptFdeyURLTs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: test
On Friday, 23 February 2007 at 22:46:40 -, Justin Schlingmann wrote: Lets see if the mailserver can find my hostname from 80.126.252.242 I think we're going to have to put this in the charter: please do *not* send test messages to tens of thousands of people when you just want to test your own configuration. We have a mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] exactly for that purpose. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp5fV7xw5jMa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Please do not duplicate messages (was: When will X11R7.2 hit the ports tree ?)
On Sunday, 18 February 2007 at 14:04:44 +0200, Ivan Georgiev wrote: On Sunday, 18 February 2007 at 14:20:51 +0200, Ivan Georgiev wrote: X11R7.2 was released three days ago. Any ideas when will we see it in ports ? It's been less than a week since I wrote: On Tuesday, 13 February 2007 at 9:46:34 +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Monday, 12 February 2007 at 13:29:22 +0100, Olaf Greve wrote: On Monday, 12 February 2007 at 14:54:26 +0100, Olaf Greve wrote: On Monday, 12 February 2007 at 15:44:42 +0100, Olaf Greve wrote: Hi guys, (Firstly: I posted this message well over an hour ago, and it does not seem to have come through, in case you recieve this twice, then I'm sorry for that :P ) Three times. Once a week there's a regular posting on this list How to ask questions. To quote: 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. I know this message has been unchanged for years, and that most people (myself included) normally delete it unread. But from time to time it's worth reminding yourself. People, this is annoying. We get enough mail already without duplicates. Please follow the recommendations. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgphR1Zdk40L2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can I Mount A Windoze Drive?
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Single line message. On Saturday, 17 February 2007 at 13:46:28 +0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: Newbie question here. I just want to make sure I don't screw anything up. I have two hard drives in my box...one for Windoze, one for FBSD. Can I mount the former from FBSD and copy over files? Well, you mount file systems, not disks. But yes, using mount_ntfs (or, if your Microsoft box is very old, mount_msdos). In your fstab you might have: /dev/ad2s2 /C: ntfs rw 0 0 If you now create a directory /C:, and assuming that the drive partition is correct, this file system will be mounted automatically when you start the system. You can mount or unmount it manually with 'mount /C;' and 'umount /C:'. Which disk? Look at the device nodes in /dev: $ ls -l /dev/ad* crw-r- 1 root operator4, 11 Feb 3 08:41 /dev/ad2 crw-r- 1 root operator4, 12 Feb 3 08:41 /dev/ad2s1 crw-r- 1 root operator4, 13 Feb 3 08:41 /dev/ad2s2 crw-r- 1 root operator4, 14 Feb 3 08:41 /dev/ad2s3 crw-r- 1 root operator4, 15 Feb 3 08:41 /dev/ad2s4 crw-r- 1 root operator4, 16 Feb 3 08:44 /dev/ad2s4a crw-r- 1 root operator4, 17 Feb 3 08:42 /dev/ad2s4b crw-r- 1 root operator4, 18 Feb 3 08:41 /dev/ad2s4c crw-r- 1 root operator4, 19 Feb 3 08:42 /dev/ad2s4d The node names ending in letters are BSD partitions; ad2 is the whole drive one of the others is the Microsoft partition. fdisk will tell you which one: $ fdisk ad2 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 6 (0x06),(Primary 'big' DOS (= 32MB)) The data for partition 2 is: sysid 7 (0x07),(OS/2 HPFS, NTFS, QNX-2 (16 bit) or Advanced UNIX) The data for partition 3 is: sysid 219 (0xdb),(CP/M, Concurrent CP/M, Concurrent DOS or CTOS) The data for partition 4 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) I've removed unnecessary output from this example. Do I navigate it just like a FBSD disk...cd, cp, etc? In principle, yes. Microsoft has this stupid idea of embedding spaces in file names. You'll see how stupid this is when you have to navigate them using UNIX commands: $ ls -l /C:/WINDOWS ... drwxr-xr-x 0 yana home0 Dec 9 2004 Connection Wizard ... drwxr-xr-x 0 yana home0 Dec 9 2004 Driver Cache $ cd /C:/WINDOWS/Connection Wizard bash: cd: /C:/WINDOWS/Connection: No such file or directory $ cd '/C:/WINDOWS/Connection Wizard' $ This will work if you haven't redefined cd as a macro, like I have done. When I try this, I still get the error message. This problem will bite you everywhere you go. You can minimize it by not using spaces in file names yourself, but you'll constantly have problems with it otherwise. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpI8LVEwMw4K.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help please: how to enable SSH password authentication under FreeBSD 6.2?
On Monday, 12 February 2007 at 13:29:22 +0100, Olaf Greve wrote: On Monday, 12 February 2007 at 14:54:26 +0100, Olaf Greve wrote: On Monday, 12 February 2007 at 15:44:42 +0100, Olaf Greve wrote: Hi guys, (Firstly: I posted this message well over an hour ago, and it does not seem to have come through, in case you recieve this twice, then I'm sorry for that :P ) Three times. Once a week there's a regular posting on this list How to ask questions. To quote: 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. I know this message has been unchanged for years, and that most people (myself included) normally delete it unread. But from time to time it's worth reminding yourself. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp6oASZOURxk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: php5-mysql?
On Monday, 12 February 2007 at 20:45:16 +0100, Roger Olofsson wrote: Alain Wolf skrev: On 12.02.2007 11:52, * Roger Olofsson wrote: After a recent buildworld/portupgrade everything seems to be up to date except a few and among those are php5-extensions and to be more precise php5-mysql. I am not really sure if its the same issue, but I had the same problems on two of my systems. After I deinstalled and reinstalled mysql-client-5.0.33 it went fine again. # cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-client/ make deinstall make reinstall I am sorry but this has been tried to no avail. I also (off the list) was encouraged to try portmanager but that also failed. As I stated in my original mail, buildworld, portsnap fetch all are recent and php and mysql (both server and client) have been deinstalled and reinstalled but php5-mysql won't budgestill gives me this: checking for mysql_close in -lmysqlclient... no checking for mysql_error in -lmysqlclient... no configure: error: mysql configure failed. Please check config.log for more information. And what does config.log say? You might also check what files you have in /var/db/ports; there are several option files there in subdirectories named after their port. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp7fS7xcycA6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Guidance requested for multimedia conversion
On Friday, 9 February 2007 at 11:04:58 +1100, Murray Taylor wrote: Hi all, Being much more a system programmer / database person than a multi media type I am requesting a 'recipe' from a video media expert. I need to convert an 8 minute .avi file into a basic dvd. No menus or anything, just a dumb as possible 'load it, press play' disk. As long as I can do that, and also get the dvd player to do loop play, its fine. I'm working on just such a HOWTO, but I'm currently missing the first step: convert the AVI to MPEG-2. Maybe mencoder (part of mplayer) can help you there. I'm planning to do this step some time soon as well, so I'd be interested in hearing what you use. The rest is described at http://www.lemis.com/grog/HOWTO/dvdburn.html. Sorry about the format, which describes more the problems you'll find than how to do it; I'm working on a new description, but it's not finished yet. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpYOQhhkfnoH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which version of Opera to use?
On Saturday, 27 January 2007 at 9:13:19 -0500, Gerard Seibert wrote: I have been thinking of trying Opera in KDE to see if it works better than Firefox. I have been having nothing but problems with Firefox and Flash. Would I be better off trying Opera or Linux-Opera? Both are offered in the ports. I'd recommend native Opera. I've heard recently from people at Opera who are very keen to ensure that it works well on FreeBSD, so it makes sense to help them. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpzEadxdDMee.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail etiquette
On Saturday, 20 January 2007 at 20:55:54 -0800, Michael wrote: Greg Albrecht wrote: ps: there's no need to reiterate how 'hard' it is for you to have to 'scroll down' to read the original message in a reply, how is that any different than me having to scroll down to read your reply? I hadn't intended to respond to this, but since I'm replying anyway, the answer is none, of course. If you put all your reply at the bottom, you miss important things, like the text you both quoted: On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top posting is only one issue. Others of great importance are trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and not writing one-line paragraphs. (end of quotation). In summary: if you don't trim your messages, you'll have more difficulty getting your point across, and also more difficulty understanding what you're replying to. If you trim your messages to what's necessary, people will need to read the entire message anyway. I couldn't agree more Greg A. I think it is time for most mta's step up and standardize a bit, but I also think people complain a little to much about top/bottom posting issue. In general, I don't complain. I just delete messages unseen if they annoy me. The annoyance depends on whether the message is even marginally intelligible; frequently it's not. Personally if the email app I'm using decides to place my cursor at the bottom/top, then that's where I start typing. The computer made me do it!. Surely *you* should want to be in charge. The order in which a conversation takes place, rarely has little to do with the content of the thread. Agreed. It is closely related. But I think you tripped over your own keyboard on that statement. Remember the text at http://www.lemis.com/email.html , which I think was quoted here: Your mail message is all that many people see of you, and if it's poorly formatted, one line per paragraph, badly spelt, or full of errors, it will give people a poor impression of you. In the impersonal world of the Internet, your mail messages are the most tangible thing about you. Send out a well thought out, clear and legible message, and you will leave a good impression. Send out a badly formulated, badly formatted and badly spelt message, and you will leave a bad impression. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpq7fX5q3hva.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)
[heavily trimmed, subject line clarified, format breakage recovered] On Thursday, 18 January 2007 at 16:31:41 +1100, Murray Taylor wrote: On Thursday, 18 January 2007 11:48 AM, Dak Ghatikachalam wrote: What if someone is emailing from a thread while I am replying at the same time, would that not happen ? Would I be getting complains again that I am top-posting Top-posting defined simply ... A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Yes, that's a nice one. Unfortunately all Micro$lop 'standard' email clients and a few others put the cursor at the top of the email, so the bad habit has developed across the world both domestically and in businesses, to write there, rather than continuing the email thread at the bottom. I think the biggest problem with Microsoft MUAs is not where they position the cursor, but the difficulty they cause in editing the text. My editor also positions the cursor at the very top when I reply to a message. But it also makes it possible to tidy things up. Top posting is only one issue. Others of great importance are trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and not writing one-line paragraphs. Your .sig is a good example of things that people should remove from replies. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpw5QifRmGZU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Origin of LINT?
On Tuesday, 16 January 2007 at 23:28:51 -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: I know it's probably off-topic, but I've searched google for a bit with no results, and because I'm curious: Does anyone (maybe one of the old guard) know the origin of the term lint for the all-inclusive feature set. I know SpamAssassin uses it as well (it's the command line argument to just regression-test everything). From KR 1st edition (1978), page 3: This program is called lint, apparently because it picks bits of fluff from one's programs. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp0beDAQKZck.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?
[irrelevant cruft removed] On Tuesday, 9 January 2007 at 23:54:02 -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 1/9/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, 9 January 2007 at 17:08:45 -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: Why should I continue using FreeBSD when the project never delivers on it promises? You shouldn't. You obviously don't understand the issues. We don't owe you anything. Play an active part or go away. Fuck off Greg, You've proved my assumptions. Clearly you don't want to play an active part. Go away. You may learn to grow up elsewhere, though I wouldn't bet on it. Sincerely. You've got to be joking. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpaJz2n8YMxv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?
On Tuesday, 9 January 2007 at 17:08:45 -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 1/9/07, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:33:18AM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote: http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/08/a-shadow-lies-upon-all-bsd-distributions - Gentoo/FreeBSD: license problems require a development pause http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/07/gentoo-freebsd-license-problems-requires-a-development-pause The big license mess, part 2 http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/07/the-big-license-mess-part-2 -- Gentoo/FreeBSD On Hold Due To Licensing Issues No. Why then? [bitch and moan session removed] Why should I continue using FreeBSD when the project never delivers on it promises? You shouldn't. You obviously don't understand the issues. We don't owe you anything. Play an active part or go away. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpBHdulEGGwN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Emacs vs XEmacs: which to choose for plain console using?
On Wednesday, 3 January 2007 at 22:50:55 +0200, Andrey Slusar wrote: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 21:41:57 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are advantages and disadvantages of xemacs over emacs? Which to choose for plain console using? Emacs by default is very usable in plain FreeBSD ?onsole, also XEmacs is not. I haven't seen this. I use Emacs, and I'd prefer to continue to do so, but some systems I work on only provide Xemacs. I haven't really seen any difference in non-windowed mode. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpIi7grrRMaQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Process States Explanation
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Single line paragraph
On Monday, 18 December 2006 at 1:06:13 -0600, Fr0zen wrote:
Where can I get a good list of what each process state means?
That depends on what you mean by process state. The real definition
is in /usr/include/sys/proc.h, but there are now only three states:
enum {
PRS_NEW = 0,/* In creation */
PRS_NORMAL, /* threads can be run. */
PRS_ZOMBIE
} p_state; /* (j/c) S* process status. */
Maybe you mean the thread state, also described in the same file, but
I doubt it.
There are two other possibilities:
- The information reported by ps(1) in the STAT column. This is
described, not surprisingly, in the man page ps(1).
- The information reported by ps(1) in the MWCHAN column. This is a
name passed by a part of the kernel when it sleeps, so any process
with a value in MWCHAN is sleeping. The names are frequently
associated with the name of the function doing the sleeping. In
general, you need to understand the kernel code to make a lot of
sense of them. Still, if you do a 'ps al' you'll see a number of
names again and again:
ttyin Waiting for character input
select Waiting for a select() to complete
waitWaiting for something to happen, possibly time
limited (= 1 second)
nanslp Waiting for 1 second.
Maybe we should write up some of these.
Greg
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Re: Black Lines on my monitor
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Sequence recovered, long/short syndrome. On Thursday, 14 December 2006 at 5:42:11 -0800, Renegade Penguin wrote: P Tyrrell wrote: Hello - Help About two weeks ago I noticed that there was a shadow appearing on the monitor alond any black type or dark picture - thinking it wasthe monitor I swaped it with another and there are still black lines appearing along the lines of text. What can I do to get rid of this? Please bear in mind youre talking to a layman not a professional techie. thankyou. If it's the video card, it very likely could be a speck of dust across some of the traces on any number of chips on the card. Taking out the video card, blowing it off, and re-seating it may help. A thorough cleaning out of the case could help as well. And if that doesn't work, then put it in the dishwasher on the hottest cycle. If the card doesn't work after that, replace it. Seriously, I can only assume that your statement was meant as a joke. Getting back to the original question, the description could be clearer. Are these horizontal or vertical? How wide? For what I know, there are several possibilities. It could really be the card no longer being able to drive the display adequately, or it could be the connection between the card and the monitor. This kind of problem often occurs when monitors are connected via KVAs. But to really understand the situation, you (P) need to describe the appearance of the shadows more clearly. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpw9F5s4wpKE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: List Protocol (was: Major Version Upgrade 4.11 to 5.x)
On Tuesday, 12 December 2006 at 16:49:39 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Until then STFU you ungrateful bastards. All you once were dumb newbies who didn't know FreeBSD from free beer, and I'll bet more than a few of you sent e-mail to questions, thinking it was an actual person who gave a damn. Boy were you surprised! Ted, there are other aspects of the list protocol. One has to do with message format. You seem to have great difficulty with this one, requiring other people to manually reformat, and often to guess what you're talking about. Another has to do with politeness. You seem to abuse this one again and again; it's one of the reasons why I seldom read this mailing list any more. You've probably driven off a number of people who would be able to give *helpful* answers. Please stop. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp6idP3CZE8E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What is microsoft-ds port 445?
On Monday, 11 December 2006 at 11:06:12 -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Dec 11, 2006, at 10:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is microsoft-ds port #445? Mildly off-topic for this list, but it's used by directory-services, aka Active Directory I don't know that it's that off-topic. I don't use Microsoft, but people bombard me with packets on port 445. Of course, the way to find this out is: $ grep 445 /etc/services microsoft-ds445/tcp microsoft-ds445/udp $ On Monday, 11 December 2006 at 12:13:50 -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: Next time, please google. There are a plethora of documents on this topic. See http://www.petri.co.il/what's_port_445_in_w2k_xp_2003.htm for starters. You can find lots of things on Google, including false leads and (especially) other people asking the same question. Many of them (hopefully not the false leads) refer to messages that have gone by on this list. Come back tomorrow and you'll probably find this exchange there. In summary: I think this message was on-topic. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpLGfmzIhr8O.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: multiple ports trees
On Thursday, 9 November 2006 at 8:46:00 -0600, Christopher M. Hobbs wrote: Hello, list! I've got about six production servers and a couple of workstations running FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE and 6.2-PRERELEASE. Some of these machines are sitting in DMZ, the others are internal. Currently, each of them has their own ports tree. How terrible of an idea would it be to take one of the production servers that isn't really doing a whole lot of work, and make it's /usr/ports available over NFS to the other machines? Am I headed in a bad direction here? This is what I do. It's not completely without its problems, though: - Some programs, notably GNU autotools, get upset if you run across NFS. I've worked around this problem by copying the tree where necessary; it's not as bad as it seems. - The ports collection stores build information in the work directory. For example: $ ls -lart work3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Nov 14 13:29 .patch_done.mythtv._usr_local -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Nov 14 13:29 .extract_done.mythtv._usr_local -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Nov 14 13:44 .configure_done.mythtv._usr_local -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Nov 14 15:56 .build_done.mythtv._usr_local drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Nov 14 15:56 . drwxr-xr-x 7 grog lemis 512 Nov 14 17:14 .. drwxr-xr-x 13 root wheel 1024 Nov 14 21:56 mythtv-0.20 If you build a package on one system, and then try on another, the Ports Collection will find these files and assume that there is nothing to do. You need to do a 'make clean' first to get it to do the process again, including dependency checks, on the new machine. Also, what about user accounts between machines? With NFS you typically have the same user ID on all related machines. I got to thinking that because some of the servers have the same user accounts, would it be possible to share a password file or home directories? Yes, again with some caveats. The biggest ones are configuration files in the home directory that contain references to the system you're working on. My biggest problem is the .emacs file: it refers to packages that I have installed on some systems only. Should I build another box strictly for this purpose? I get by quite happily with a separate tree on one of my existing systems. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpjznRodtVeC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mysql in production on freebsd 6.1 ???
On Friday, 3 November 2006 at 19:56:00 +0800, ke han wrote: I need feedback from users with mysql 5.0.x (or even 4.1.x) in production on SMP systems. X86_64 Opteron is my platform. I have heard rumors of it not scaling and it crashes and odd errors Have these been worked out in the latest releases of freebsd and mysql? Any thoughts on this topic may help me substantially. If you cannot provide info publicly, private replies are fine...I just need some production level feedback. I was involved in the investigation of these claims a while back. We were never able to establish any connection between the elements FreeBSD and Opteron. Some people with these combinations had problems, but a very large majority reported that everything was OK. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp1gIpWpnUjv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DVB card suggestion
On Sunday, 5 November 2006 at 22:20:36 +0200, Alin-Adrian Anton wrote: Hi List, I'd like to get rid of my SkyStar2 DVB card (zero support on FBSD) and buy something which is well supported by FreeBSD 6.x. To the best of my knowledge no DVB cards are supported under FreeBSD. I'm toying with the idea of porting the driver for the DVICO DVB-T card, but don't hold your breath. Please let me know if you have knowledge of testedworking DVB cards on FreeBSD, the only important thing is audio/video; IP over MPEG is not needed. Can I guess you're talking about DVB-S? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp5PqBikywNL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mountroot
On Sunday, 5 November 2006 at 21:10:25 -, justin wrote: Hello, I`m trying to boot my freebsd 5.5 system and i`m having some trouble. Every time the machine boots it runs into the mountroot prompt. It cannot find the rootvp file on the /dev/ad0s1a. Everytime i try to mount the /dev/ad0s1a it gives me the mountroot prompt again. also i tryed to type ufs:/dev/ad0s1a but nothing happens. i presume the ad0s1a is my harddisk, i find it strange it will not mount. The computer finds the hard drive at boot time so what`s the problem. The first problem is that you haven't given any details. What partition layout do you have? Have you ever been able to boot from this machine? What's in /etc/fstab? If this is a fresh install, I'd suggest moving to 6.1, or waiting a couple of days for 6.2. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpeeq0w61sz9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How many Labels/partitions are permitted?
On Thursday, 19 October 2006 at 20:29:07 -0300, Agus wrote: Hi all. I was reading the installation of freebsd and get that only partitions, sorry, labels a to h are allowed. is this so? Yes. Also, you can't use 'c' for a partition, since it represents the whole disk, and on one disk at least you'll need a swap partition, so 6 is the maximum number of file systems you could create. That's not just adequate, it's far too many. So if i want to have the following scheme: / /home /usr /usr/local /tmp /var /var/log /homeb Can i make this? cause i tried, but i get an X in the label... You can't make partitions like this. But why do you want to? There's nothing to stop you making a single root file system and directories of these names. My recommendation in The Complete FreeBSD (http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/) is to create a root file system of 8 to 10 GB and a /home file system for the rest of the disk. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpreT2QNNwL8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How many Labels/partitions are permitted?
On Friday, 20 October 2006 at 1:48:35 +0200, Joerg Pernfuss wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:29:07 -0300, Agus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I was reading the installation of freebsd and get that only partitions, sorry, labels a to h are allowed. is this so? a-h are possible, yes, but b is usually used for swap and c is reserved for internal use. Specifically, it represents the entire partition. Basically, now you have 4 options: - rework your partiotion sheme to work with these limits - create two slices on the disk, giving you *s1[adefgh] and *s2[adefgh] to work with This is the cleanest method, if you really have to create that many partitions. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpMQaecphb2X.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: User vs Kernel mode
On Tuesday, 17 October 2006 at 9:35:14 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: Hi, I have an application that is running on virtual tty 0, i start it the following way: /etc/ttys ttyv0 /usr/libexec/getty Door cons25 on secure /etc/gettytab Door: :ht:np:sp#115200:al=door: /etc/passwd door:*:0:0:Run the door program:/usr/local/door:/usr/local/door/door While the application is launched by getty, I would like to know if it is running in user mode or in kernel mode. Processes always start in kernel mode, because they're started by the kernel. They typically spend most of their time in kernel mode (for example, whenever they're idle or waiting for I/O). An active process may switch back and forward between kernel mode and user mode thousands of times a second. I think in user mode, and so there is no reason why it should affect other processes, even if my application had some memory management problems. A process which spends all its time in user mode is looping :-) Maybe you should describe your problem. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpYeTlSIWZ4g.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: User vs Kernel mode
On Tuesday, 17 October 2006 at 9:52:17 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: Processes always start in kernel mode, because they're started by the kernel. They typically spend most of their time in kernel mode (for example, whenever they're idle or waiting for I/O). An active process may switch back and forward between kernel mode and user mode thousands of times a second. Thanks for the clarification. Maybe you should describe your problem. The application has been working fine for almost 3 years, along with Apache, going through RELENG upgrade without problem. Now I start noticing that Apache hangs (sig 11), A hang is when the system stops reacting. Signal 11 is not a hang: it's a segmentation violation, which means that the program has performed a specific kind of illegal operation. In the case of a program that used to work well, this almost invariably means that you have hardware problems. 2 options: - I added memory in the machine and the meory is causing problems. Yes, this is possible - I changed my application a little bit and it started eating other processes. This is less likely. So I'd like to be sure that my application cannot eat other processes, so i could eliminate one cause. Don't even think about this at the moment. If you have just installed new memory and these problems occur, try taking it out again and seeing if the problem goes away. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpYVlYueUSX5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD 6.1 hangs at mountroot during bootup
[rearranged, trimmed] On Thursday, 21 September 2006 at 2:32:59 -0500, Derek Ragona wrote: At 06:47 PM 9/20/2006, Mike Peirson wrote: Hi all, First off, I'm new to FreeBSD and this mailinglist so I hope I am in the right place. Anyways, right now I am having some problems with FreeBSD booting up. I have tried to install 3 times now and keep getting the same error. When I try to boot into FreeBSD, this eventually comes up: Manual root filesystem specification: fstype:device Mount device using filesystem fstype eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices empty line abort manual input Mountroot This seems to be a prompt where I need to specify the location of the root partition, but the problem here is that it hangs or freezes and I cannot input any text. I have seen this in a few situations: 1.) the BIOS is set to not allow boot area writes 2.) The root partition is outside the first 1024 cylinders. This was on older hardware that didn't do good geometry translation on big drives. 3.) moved the root partition to another slice I don't think any of these can cause the keyboard to freeze. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpKzd82HJaBQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tip Top Equity Spam
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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 hangs at mountroot during bootup
On Thursday, 21 September 2006 at 7:43:44 +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: * On 20/09/06 16:47 -0700, Mike Peirson wrote: Hi all, First off, I'm new to FreeBSD and this mailinglist so I hope I am in the right place. Anyways, right now I am having some problems with FreeBSD booting up. I have tried to install 3 times now and keep getting the same error. When I try to boot into FreeBSD, this eventually comes up: Manual root filesystem specification: fstype:device Mount device using filesystem fstype eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices empty line abort manual input Mountroot This seems to be a prompt where I need to specify the location of the root partition, but the problem here is that it hangs or freezes and I cannot input any text. Any further details about your hardware specs in general? This is a keyboard problem. The background is that the boot process uses a different keyboard driver from the final kernel, and that it's much more finicky than the kernel version. It seems to have got worse in the last few years. I've found that a USB keyboard will do better, but YMMV. At first I thought it may be a result of FreeBSD not properly recognizing my HDD's geometry but I manually fixed that and it still is giving me this same issue. If anyone has had a similar problem or knows how to fix this I would greatly appreciate any help. I looked through the Handbook and googled this but I haven't found a solution yet. The background for the *message* (not the apparent freeze) is that your root file system can't be found. This happens typically when you change the device name. For example, my situation is that I'm doing development with a SATA disk drive and moving it from system to system. On my machine the root file system shows up as /dev/ad4s1a; on the other machine it's /dev/ad0s1a. It's probably worth putting in a PR about this problem. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpT7FSM4RDug.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Freebsd, Suse Linux dual booting
On Saturday, 16 September 2006 at 16:49:17 -0700, Dan Bikle wrote: FreeBSD and Linux people, I have a PC which I want to boot as windows, FreeBSD, and Suse 10.1 Linux. Currently, FreeBSD boot0 menu shows both Windows and FreeBSD as boot-able. The FreeBSD boot0 menu does not show the Linux OS (which I just installed). So, I did some reading of the FreeBSD handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html It suggests that I have 2 ways to solve this problem: 1. Configure the FreeBSD boot0 menu so that it can boot Windows, FreeBSD, and Linux Or, 2. Replace The FreeBSD boot0 menu with LILO Boot Manager I like option 1. Q1: How do I add Suse 10.1 Linux to the FreeBSD boot0 menu? That depends on how you have laid out your Linux partition. Given that you have three systems on the disk, you have almost certainly put Linux in a BIOS extended partition. If that's the case, you can't use the FreeBSD boot manager, because it doesn't handle extended partitions. As for option 2, if I want to try LILO, I'll need to toss my FreeBSD boot0 menu in the trash. You also have the option of GRUB, which is what I used in this situation. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-apr2006.html#21 for further details. Q2: If I cannot get LILO to boot FreeBSD, how do I boot get FreeBSD to boot and then how do I restore my old FreeBSD boot0 menu? Save the very first sector of the disk somewhere: # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=bootsector count=1 To restore it, you'll need to somehow boot, of course (I'd recommend FreesBIE (http://www.freesbie.org/), and copy it back: # dd if=bootsector of=/dev/ad0 count=1 Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpz34x19QJOY.pgp Description: PGP signature
System down, won't come up (was: Oh, no....)
On Friday, 1 September 2006 at 20:30:24 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Well, gang, for about the only time in ten or eleven years, my FreeBSD has kernel crashed. The kernel err is 18 I believe a int divide by zero. I backup most stuff regularly but still have several megs of data files. Can I fix this with a fixit disk? Or is all hope lost? gary Fatal trap 18: blah, blah Uptime 1sec It sounds like you forgot to say it crashed and won't come up again. There are dozens of reasons why this could happen. What about booting the backup kernel? If that doesn't work either, you could have hardware problems, or you could have corrupted system binaries. In the latter case, the fixit disk might help, but I'd certainly try the backup kernel before the fixit disk: it's much easier. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp1xXzlaoTN2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Time zone isn't displaying right one with 'tzsetup'
On Tuesday, 22 August 2006 at 23:45:19 -0400, Robert Gabaree wrote: Hi, I tried to update my new server to the new time zone by running 'tzsetup' and selecting Eastern. However, instead of showing 11:45, it shows 6:45 - 5 hours later. I even tried to do a 'cp /usr/share/ zoneinfo/EST5EDT /etc/localtime but it didn't help. What can I do to fix it? That depends on whether you're running ntpd or not. If you are, your best bet is to stop ntpd and run ntpdate, specifying the same server, then restart ntpd. If you're not running ntpd, just set the date: date 08232355 See the man page for the format. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpe5PUzHQALB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nforce audio problem
On Sunday, 20 August 2006 at 10:47:17 +, Brad Kowalczyk wrote: Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Sunday, 20 August 2006 at 4:44:06 +, Brad Kowalczyk wrote: Seems I have the correct driver loaded and the device exists but no sound... It would be good to say which one (kldstat output), but from below I expect you'll have: ... Here's my kldstat output: (all drivers loaded) I reallise I don't need all those other sound drivers, but can't seem tp find where to disable them... That depends on how you enabled them :-) You should have something like this in /var/run/dmesg.boot: pcm0: nVidia nForce2 port 0xe400-0xe4ff,0xe800-0xe87f mem 0xeb00-0xeb000fff irq 21 at device 6.0 on pci0 pcm0: Avance Logic ALC655 AC97 Codec In this case, you should add to your /boot/loader.conf (creating the file if it doesn't exist): snd_ich_load=YES It might also help if you can connect the pcm device to a different IRQ from the nv device; but that depends on your motherboard BIOS. I'm running 5.4 STABLE. I don't have much experience on FreeBSD, how do I change the IRQ for a device? As I say, that depends on your motherboard BIOS. I'd look in the PCI device configuration first. It might also help to move to 6.1. I had problems with sound on this board until I did. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpMUFsB5IO9w.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ouch! write failed, file system is full
On Saturday, 19 August 2006 at 18:55:02 -0500, W. D. wrote: How do I get out of this mess? gzip: stdout: No space left on device Broken pipe df Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 9918398644-7395 108%/ I tried to do a backup: cd / mkdir archive tar -zcvpf /archive/full-backup-`date '+%Y-%B-%d'`.tar.gz --directory / --exclude=mnt --exclude=proc --exclude=archive --exclude=cache . What did I do wrong, and how to fix it and do it right? Without knowing what your file system hierarchy is, it's a very good bet that you've written your backup archive to the root file system. This could happen even if you have a file system /archive and you haven't mounted it, and it won't go away if you do mount it; you'll have to remove the partial archive first. That's a *very* small root file system, BTW. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpoSj3IoBaPy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nforce audio problem
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Computer output wrapped. On Sunday, 20 August 2006 at 4:44:06 +, Brad Kowalczyk wrote: Hi, Just wondering if anyone has any experience getting sound working for an nforce1 motherboard? Heh. Just what I've been playing with right now. Seems I have the correct driver loaded and the device exists but no sound... It would be good to say which one (kldstat output), but from below I expect you'll have: Id Refs AddressSize Name 61 0xc5577000 5000 snd_ich.ko 71 0xc557c000 1d000sound.ko Some info: # pciconf -vl snip [EMAIL PROTECTED]:5:0: class=0x040100 card=0x37301462 chip=0x01b010de rev=0xc2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' device = 'nForce MCP Audio Processing Unit (Dolby Digital)' class= multimedia subclass = audio [EMAIL PROTECTED]:6:0: class=0x040100 card=0x37301462 chip=0x01b110de rev=0xc2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' device = 'nForce MCP Audio Codec Interface' class= multimedia subclass = audio I have: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:6:0: class=0x040100 card=0x57001462 chip=0x006a10de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' device = 'nForce MCP-T Audio Codec Interface' class= multimedia subclass = audio I don't have the APU. # dmesg | grep pcm pcm0: nVidia nForce port 0xe400-0xe47f,0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xdc18-0xdc180fff irq 16 at device 6.0 on pci0 pcm0: Analog Devices AD1885 AC97 Codec Interrupt storm detected on irq16: pcm0 nv0++; throttling interrupt source pcm0: nVidia nForce2 port 0xe400-0xe4ff,0xe800-0xe87f mem 0xe400-0xe4000fff irq 21 at device 6.0 on pci0 pcm0: Avance Logic ALC655 AC97 Codec Looks pretty much the same, except that the chipset is slightly different. The important message is the last one: Interrupt storm. That's the problem; I don't have a real answer, but what version of FreeBSD are you running? It might also help if you can connect the pcm device to a different IRQ from the nv device; but that depends on your motherboard BIOS. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpmnI9AZR0Tz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Source Code Navigation
On Sunday, 13 August 2006 at 7:38:58 +, S.Mohideen wrote: All, What tools your people use apart from CTAGS/cscope to navigate vast source code base. Im using ctags in gvim. Want to know any better tool which you may be using. There's not really much choice. I'm currently playing with GNU global (http://www.gnu.org/software/global/, available in /usr/ports/devel/global), which so far seems to be a little better than etags; I don't use ctags. http://www.lemis.com/grog/software/source-code-navigation.html has some somewhat out-of-date info on the subject. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpsU1YWmU83d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Source Code Navigation
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Upside-down reply, gratuitous empty lines removed. On Sunday, 13 August 2006 at 15:42:13 +, S.Mohideen wrote: Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Sunday, 13 August 2006 at 7:38:58 +, S.Mohideen wrote: What tools your people use apart from CTAGS/cscope to navigate vast source code base. Im using ctags in gvim. Want to know any better tool which you may be using. There's not really much choice. I'm currently playing with GNU global (http://www.gnu.org/software/global/, available in /usr/ports/devel/global), which so far seems to be a little better than etags; I don't use ctags. http://www.lemis.com/grog/software/source-code-navigation.html has some somewhat out-of-date info on the subject. May be a foolish question to ask. What editor gvim/emacs plays well with global based upon your experience. Emacs. But that's my experience. global is supposed to be independent of editors, and it also has a command-line interface. You would have seen this if you had followed the links I gave. Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpjBwRQVaU2u.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 146, Issue 21
On Monday, 14 August 2006 at 10:13:50 +0700, rithy4u- CEO wrote: I have one DNS Server running Bind. I always got permission denied on my server screen why? Because something's not the way you want it. Seriously, how do you expect anybody to give you an answer based on that description? I don't even know what you mean by server screen, or whether the permission denied has anything to do with DNS. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp3jWCvgwTKg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 17 or 19
On Wednesday, 2 August 2006 at 21:00:43 -0500, David Kelly wrote: On Aug 2, 2006, at 6:55 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote: Me? I'd go for two monster 22 inch CRTs, or three 19 inch CRTs. So lacking in imagination we are. Don't settle for anything less than 30 http://www.apple.com/displays/ The real question is resolution, not size. Even the 30 display has a resolution of only 2560x1600. A reasonable 19 CRT will do 1600x1200, or nearly 50% of that resolution. If you compare the prices ($2499 for the Apple display, about $130 for the 19 monitor), and recall that the original poster didn't want to spend much money, this really isn't an option. More to the point, though, it's not until you get to the 23 screen that you get the same resolution as my Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop has (1920x1200). At $1299, it costs nearly as much as the laptop. Last month I was in this situation myself. I bought 2 new 19 monitors (BenQ P992), for about USD 130 a piece. I'm running them at 1600x1200, and they're surprisingly good. It could be a long time before I find an LCD with that resolution at even close to a comparable price. On the other hand, if HDTV ever comes off, we can expect to see a lot of 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 displays at reasonable prices. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpwszJQbX4NJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mysql from ports
On Thursday, 3 August 2006 at 12:39:00 -0400, Ron Clark wrote:
OK, I rebuilt the box again and cvsuped my ports and got the machi= ne
back to 5.5 STABLE. When I tried to install mysql server 5.1, I get
the = following:
=== Running ldconfig
/sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib/mysql
=== Ins= talling ldconfig configuration file
cannot create /usr/local/libdata/l= dconfig/mysql: No such file or
directory
*** Error code 2
S= top in /usr/ports/databases/mysql51-client.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mysql51-server.
Is there any reason wh= y the install cannot create this directory? I
am installing this as root. = /p
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Re: Changing user password from command line
On Wednesday, 2 August 2006 at 16:48:48 +0700, Mike Fern wrote: Dear all, Does anybody know a program which is able to change user password from command line? Of course. I thought it was the only way. $ man -k password passwd(1), yppasswd(1) - modify a user's password From that man page: HISTORY A passwd command appeared in Version 6 ATT UNIX. By comparison, pw(8) is a newcomer. In fact, the passwd command was in the Third Edition of Research UNIX, back in 1973. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp5G59PoWghy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Changing user password from command line
On Wednesday, 2 August 2006 at 15:53:07 +0300, Simon Phoenix wrote: On Wednesday 02 August 2006 12:48, Mike Fern wrote: Dear all, Does anybody know a program which is able to change user password from command line? We can add a user using single line pw (pw useradd), but i need ability to set the password also, instead of old command passwd user and then writing to stdin. man pw Look for -h option description. The advantage of using passwd(1) is that it is available on all UNIX-like systems (pw(8) isn't), and that it's easier to use. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpnS57kbPgut.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Implementing NTFS-3g into FreeBSD
On Wednesday, 2 August 2006 at 11:43:53 +1000, Dan Warne wrote: On Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:40 AM, Juha Saarinen wrote: On 8/2/06, Warne, Dan wrote: One of my journalists recently wrote an interesting story on the NTFS-3g project that is promising a fully OSS solution for reading -and writing- to NTFS partitions. I am personally a Mac OS X user and I don't have a Linux/Unix background so I wonder if you can advise: how viable would it be to implement NTFS-3g into FreeBSD? More specifically I'm wondering whether Apple could easily implement it into Darwin, therefore providing NTFS write support for OS X. This is an issue that has fallen under the table here, rightly so. Since we're primarily FreeBSD users, it's difficult for us to express a useful opinion on the viability under MacOS X. My guess, though, for many of the reasons I mention below, is that the answer is yes. You're probably aware of the desirability to have non GPL virus code in FreeBSD, which makes the whole thing a lot harder to do. It's true that the FreeBSD project likes to keep GPL software separate, at least partially out of respect for the license conditions. There is also a small proportion of the project (myself definitely excluded) that think that GNU is Bad. But there's plenty of GPL software in the FreeBSD system (look at the toolchain for the probably most obvious example). Being GPL does not automatically exclude software from FreeBSD, though it's more likely to relegate it to the Ports Collection. But maybe it's there already? A brief 'locate ntfs' shows that it is, in the sysutils/ntfsprogs port. From the package description: The goals of this project are: create a new Linux kernel driver for the NTFS file system (v1.2 and later 3.0), user space utilities (e.g. format, ntfs check, etc.) and a library to avoid code duplication and provide access to NTFS to other GPLed programs. WWW: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ - Florent Thoumie [EMAIL PROTECTED] This port isn't new; I've used one of its utilities at the beginning of last year (see http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-jan2005.html#19) to resize an NTFS file system. I don't know how well the NTFS access works, but one of the build options is to use FUSE, so it must be present. The port is at version 1.13.0, while the web site states that version 1.13.1 was released on 21 June. I'd expect to see an update Real Soon Now. However, there's this project: http://fuse4bsd.creo.hu/ Yes, this is the one that NTFS-3g is built upon. Currently, if you want to use a high capacity external drive for read/write across Windows and OS X machines, your only option is FAT32, and neither OS X nor Windows can format drives with FAT32 above a certain partition size. (Apparently FAT32 on Linux can get around the Microsoft size limitation, but that's not a very practical option for an OS X user). Things are a little different for FreeBSD (and better, it seems from your article (http://www.apcstart.com/site/amills/2006/08/870/linux-to-get-reliable-ntfs-write-support). There is already read/write support for NTFS, and I can confirm that it works for me. Still, it's clear that improvements are possible. From the man page: WRITING There is limited writing ability. Limitations: file must be nonresident and must not contain any sparces (uninitialized areas); compressed files are also not supported. The file name must not contain multibyte charac- ters. I don't understand the term nonresident here; but I can write NTFS from my FreeBSD system. The other restrictions sound like they could be fixed if anybody cared. So: will the FreeBSD project move completely to NTFS-3g? I'm pretty sure the answer is no. We already have something that works well enough. There's also a feeling in the project, which I share, that userland file systems like FUSE are great for prototyping, but second rate for production systems. Your test results tend to confirm that. And finally, we have those anti-GNU bigots to contend with. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgptVk87mpZqQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MySQL Signal 10 on FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-P6
On Monday, 31 July 2006 at 11:35:04 -0400, Erik Kristensen wrote: I have an interesting issue with FreeBSD 6.0 and MySQL 5.0. Part of my problem has been discussed serveral times in the past on other mailing lists and it seems there has been fixes for older versions of MySQL. From what you say here, there's no reason to believe that your problem has been mentioned at all. The MySQL server is currently receiving a SIGNAL 10 about once an hour, which is causing many problems with the innodb databases that we have running on this server. Signal 10 is SIGBUS (bus error), an error detected by the hardware. The most frequent causes are bugs in the hardware and bugs in the software. The only way to find out what causes the problem is to investigate further. Never make the assumption that any two SIGBUS problems are related. Still, SIGBUS is interesting, because just about every such error in FreeBSD is reported as a SIGSEGV (signal 11). I am running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 and MySQL 5.0.22. In all the lists I have read regarding FreeBSD, MySQL and signal 10, it all seems to happen with version 6.0 and the 4.1.x series of MySQL. I can't confirm that at all. I've been chasing a number of very specific problems for some time, and as far as I can tell, there are very few cases where the server crashes. One case that I'm investigating is BUG#12251 (http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=12251). If any of this looks familiar to you, please let me know. Any help in this area would be greatly appreciate as this is our production server having issues. We are a small company with limited resources. A start would be the documented method to track down crashes: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/debugging-server.html gives details. In particular, the contents of the error log will give you some idea, though probably you'll need a debugger to get a usable backtrace. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpBIVISfytCP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Linux/FreeBSD NFS incompatibilities (was: Connection refusal for an NFS mount)
On Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 17:16:16 +0200, David Landgren wrote: List, On an old Redhat box (address 172.17.0.18), I'm trying to mount an NFS export from a FreeBSD (5.2.1-RELEASE) box. Both machines are on the same network segment, and neither have any onboard firewalling rules. FWIW, there seems to be some compatibility issue here that I've looked at from time to time, but which I haven't been able to resolve. In a similar network, FreeBSD machines can cross-mount file systems without problems, but on occasion *some* file systems either can't be mounted from Linux, require a retry to mount, or freeze once mounted. I've done some network tracing that suggests that the FreeBSD NFS server is not responding to the Linux box, though it's not clear yet what. Any insight is welcome. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpo4szDmK4Ve.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Creating vinum RAID 1 on place
On Friday, 7 July 2006 at 11:29:46 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: Hi, Is there a trick on the way to build a vinum RAID 1 without backup-in the data first? Sometimes. It's described in The Complete FreeBSD, page 236 or so. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for how to get the book. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp9bRktZRlpn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Root crontab for backup
On Monday, 3 July 2006 at 6:57:27 +0100, Xian wrote: On Monday 03 July 2006 00:29, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: It's a good idea to leave /etc/periodic as it is; it makes updating easier. I personally put this sort of thing in /etc/crontab, though arguably (also because of upgrades) root's crontab is a better place. You can use /usr/ocal/etc/periodic ok It's a good idea to leave /etc/periodic as it is; it makes updating easier. But I think I said that. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpHJIiNb09Eb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Root crontab for backup
On Saturday, 1 July 2006 at 15:55:32 +0300, Kostas Blekos wrote: Is it a bad idea to use root's crontab for backup scripts? I can't see why. Is it better to put those scripts in periodic/... ? It's a good idea to leave /etc/periodic as it is; it makes updating easier. I personally put this sort of thing in /etc/crontab, though arguably (also because of upgrades) root's crontab is a better place. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpG5uk9O23TU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: speed of PPPoE
On Monday, 3 July 2006 at 11:11:58 +0800, Benny Au wrote: Hello, The speed of PPPoE in FreeBSD is slower than in Windows XP. and sometimes I have to wait for a moment to visit the same web site again. It won't disconnect but it works not stably. Could you tell me how to configure the ppp and let it run fast? Thanks! I'd be very surprised if this were a FreeBSD issue. You might like to trace the conenction and see if there are any link-level retries; anything beyond that has nothing to do with the driver. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp0eRfyVhLOv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Frustration
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Single line paragraphs. On Thursday, 29 June 2006 at 22:51:00 -0400, Fernando Pinguelo wrote: I am writing to you because I need to vent. I have tried installing version 5.3 of FreeBSD on a Pentium III machine. I thought I succeeded in doing it so, but when I tried to build xOrg I realized that I did not have all the ports installed and that some other dependencies were also missing. I realized then that the installation had not been as successful as I first thought. So, I tried to re-install the ports from the CD, since I didn't have an Internet connection to that machine. Well, I kept getting more and more hardware/software errors. I then tried to upgrade FreeBSD to version 6.1. And that was what I did; I tried. If you have hardware problems, you'll run into trouble installing anything. Well, I kept getting more errors, as usual. The more I tried to install/reinstall/upgrade/fix FreeBSD, the more I was realizing that anything that had to do with FreeBSD that could go wrond would go wrong, be it the software installation or hardware behavior. The amount of work and headache that I have been experiencing to move a single 'inch' towards a working Unix environment has been enourmously frustating. The worst part of it all is that I have not accomplished anything tangible at all. I think now it is time for this boy to abandon the 'Unix' bandwagon for good and move back to MS Windows. At least I will be able to concentrate on doing real productive work, instead of dealing with temperamental hardware and software every time I touch the PC. You really can't blame FreeBSD for temperamental hardware. And if you're used to Microosft, of course it will seem a little strange at first. But this mailing list isn't for venting your spleen, it's for getting help. Go and read The Complete FreeBSD (http://grog.evilcode.net/book.pdf.gz), then if you still have problems, report them here with details of what went wrong. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpm9HFluPp4C.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: is vinum in FBSD 6.0?
On Friday, 2 June 2006 at 5:04:15 -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: Travis H. wrote: Is there some kind of IP lawsuit over vinum or something? If so, it's never been mentioned ;-) It has now, but it's the first time I've heard of it. It's a valid question, but I don't think Greg's that kind of guy. As for Veritas, I *think* they had some sort of agreement (re: the name), (but I could be blowing smoke there); IIRC, vinum(8) was patterned after the idea of the Veritas software, and not in any way a copy or clone of it In fact, I never asked VERITAS. I only modelled Vinum on VxVM, anyway; there are big differences. In any case, there was one IP issue at the very beginning: I developed the RAID-5 functionality under contract with Cybernet Inc., and part of that agreement was that I would not release it until 18 months after it became functional. That time has long passed, and RAID-5 has of course been released. There have never been any conflicts arising from IP issues, neither with Cybernet, VERITAS, myself or anybody else. As others have stated, vinum has been replaced by gvinum. Greg had stated in the past that the GEOM layer's introduction had badly broken vinum, so I'm guessing that vinum was removed so that no one would attempt to use it on a newer system and get unexpected results. The original intention was to modify Vinum to work with GEOM. Lukas did the work, and he chose to rewrite significant parts of it, and also to rename it. I disagreed with both of these decisions (see the problems they've caused, like what's being discussed here), but he's the man, and he gets to call the shots. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpjzW7IHXfWa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MySQL port won't understand SSL configuration directives
On Sunday, 4 June 2006 at 15:07:39 +, Matt Bostock wrote: Hello, I compiled the MySQL port with WITH_OPENSSL=yes, but it won't start as it complains about the SSL directives in /etc/my.cnf; [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: unknown variable 'ssl-ca=/x' Any help is much appreciated, The FreeBSD ports of MySQL don't install a my.cnf file; if they did, it would be in /usr/local/etc/, not /etc. So it looks as if this is something you've done. The /x refers to a file name, of course. It's barely possible that the error message is wrong and that it's really saying can't find file /x. Does the file exist? Which version of MySQL? This facility was introduced with release 4.0 of MySQL. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpexbhBAxpgr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Install FreeBSD on Dell Inspiraon E1505/ 6400 laptop
On Sunday, 21 May 2006 at 17:25:38 -0700, Sadashiv Kulthe wrote: Helllo, I want to Install Linux on Dell Inspiraon E1505/ 6400 laptop can anyone tell me is it compatitable? As others have observed, Linux and FreeBSD are two different operating systems. You certainly need to decide which (and if it's Linux, which version of Linux). It has following configuration 1) Inspiron E1505, Intel Core Duoprocessor T2300 (2MB/1.66GHz/667MHz) I've never heard a model number like E1505 before. Is this different from the standard Inspiron 6400? 2) 15.4 Inch Wide-screen WXGA Display for Inspiron 6400/E150 I don't know what WXGA means; my Inspiron 6100 has a 1920x1200 display. 3) 1GB, DDR2, 533MHz 2 Dimm for Inspiron 6400/E1505 4) Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator 950 GM My machine has an ATI Radeon chipset, and I can install X on it, though I still have trouble with external projectors. I don't expect any particular problems with the Intel chip set. 5) 80GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive for Inspiron 6400/E1505 6) Integrated 10/100 Network Cardand Modem, for Inspiron Probably Broadcom, like the other Inspirons. 7) Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 802.11a/g Mini Card (54Mbps), for for Inspiron 6400/E1505 Probably the same as on my machine. You'll need to install the iwicontrol port and download the card firmware from the net. I didn't get mine to work properly with older releases than 6.1. 8) Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth Module (2.0+EDR) for Inspiron 6400/E1505 I have no experience with this. 9) 8X DVD+/-RW Drive for Inspiron 6400/E1505 10) Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005, English without Media, for Inspiron That won't work with FreeBSD or Linux. Basically, you should have no difficulty installing both FreeBSD and Linux on the machine; that's what I've done. Older versions of X, including those delivered with some current Linux distributions, have difficulty recognizing the screen format, though they can be configured to handle it. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpZkTnuc6NDu.pgp Description: PGP signature
The logo discussion
I've just fought my way through the logo discussion of the past few days. Here's my impression in a nutshell: - I don't like the logo either. - I don't spend all my time bitching about it. - I don't discuss it in violation of list charter on a mailing list intended for technical questions. - I don't understand why people who don't contribute to the project think they have a right to choose a project logo. - I used to answer many questions on this mailing list. Recently people have been hijacking it for purposes of penis size comparison. This doesn't make me feel very inclined to answer messages on the list, and it shows. So, people, how about sticking to the charter and discussing technical things on this list? If you want to discuss the logo, join the advocacy@ mailing list and discuss things there, where you're not annoying the majority of the subscribers. Then I and others like me might find more time to answer questions. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp3n79uPFxxe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Find the Date a Port Was Installed
On Wednesday, 17 May 2006 at 17:40:24 -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (May 17), Jeff Cross said: I have recently upgraded to RELENG_6_1 and have attempted a portupgrade on all ports since the upgrade so that new libs, etc. are being used with the installed ports. When it *finally* finished I saw that 9 ports were not upgraded due to various reasons but because I did this from the command line I couldn't scroll up to see what 9 ports failed. Is it possible to determine which ports weren't upgraded so I can deal with them manually or is it possible to show the install date for all ports? If I can pull the install date for all of them I can see which ones are older than today and deal with them individually. I looked at the man page for pkg_info to see if there was anything I could do there to list the installed ports along with an installation date but I didn't see anything. I use cd /var/db/pkg ; ls -l */+COMMENT. Add a -t to sort by date. I find that ls -lrt /var/db/pkg is even more useful: it shows the packages in order of installation, so you can see which dependencies were installed as well. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpLGpqEVI6sF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Multiple monitors with Dell Latitude D810
On Tuesday, 16 May 2006 at 10:02:07 -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to use a Dell D810 with xorg and multiple monitors. The two monitors I have are the internal laptop screen, and an external Dell monitor hooked up through the docking station. Windows was able to display content on both monitors, so I'm sure there's a way to do it with xorg and freebsd. However, I am not sure where to start because of the fact that I'm using a docking station I'm having similar problems with an Inspiron 6000. It can provide output to the monitor, but I haven't found any way to persuade X.org to use the scan rates I specify. This is a Radeon card. pciconf -vl says: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x03 card=0x20031028 chip=0x54601002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc' device = 'Mobility Radeon X300' class= display subclass = VGA Is this anything like what you have? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpzw4PqvsL9Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda
On Sunday, 7 May 2006 at 23:39:10 -0700, Eric Dan wrote: * Greg 'groggy' Lehey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Saturday, 6 May 2006 at 10:22:11 +0200, Kyrre Nygard wrote: I have found a problem. I find the design / typesetting to be very unprofessional. It looks like a teenager wrote it, in Microsoft Word, but no offense. ... Let us know what you think! I think you're a troll. i think the book is great, easy to read, helped me a lot and also saved me a lot of time. I hope you're gonna eventually write a new edition that covers 6.* releases. I really liked the network section in your book. Compare that to the one in Running Linux Edition 5! Thanks for your support, but please don't feed the troll. I hadn't noticed before that he's from Norway, the home of the trolls :-) Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers pgpJh2IH3fkN2.pgp Description: PGP signature
In search of volunteers (was: The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda)
On Monday, 8 May 2006 at 9:33:46 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: i think the book is great, easy to read, helped me a lot and also saved me a lot of time. I hope you're gonna eventually write a new edition that covers 6.* releases. Actually, by this time, I am hoping for a jump ahead that covers 7.xx as well as changes in 6.xx. I was actually looking for the next edition to buy another when the announcement of putting it out free for download came out. One of my hopes in releasing the sources was that some people would volunteer to update the book. I'm no longer able to do it by myself. If you're interested, please contact me privately. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers pgpZ5ImefcKqg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 1 cpu + 2 monitors + 2 keybord/mouse is it possible
On Friday, 12 May 2006 at 18:44:01 +0400, Igor Robul wrote: On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 10:35:43AM -0400, Bakki Kudva wrote: How about using x-terminals on a network? I remember seeing them in the surplus market for $15 recently. After all X is designed to be a network gui. X-Terminals may 1) Not work good with non-English languages 2) Have bad (80 Hz) refresh rate Also, for example, I'm not sure I could find any X-Terminal for $15 or even $50 on any market in any country. I'm sure you'll find X terminals cheaply from time to time. But in addition to the problems you mention, they're frequently slow, especially by today's standards. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers pgp9FJ917SyN6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda
On Saturday, 6 May 2006 at 10:22:11 +0200, Kyrre Nygard wrote: I have found a problem. I find the design / typesetting to be very unprofessional. It looks like a teenager wrote it, in Microsoft Word, but no offense. You just used the wrong typesetting system. Please check out the LaTeX Project as well as the Memoir class. It will do the typesetting for you, and your book will become a lot more comfortable for all of us to read. Let us know what you think! I think you're a troll. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers pgpCPQnhA4tVW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dd issues
On Monday, 1 May 2006 at 19:44:00 -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote: I'm trying to back up some of my software, and I'm having some problems, I found something in the archives specifying the need to set a block size of 2k or greater. This makes a backup (I've not tested it yet). My questions are: (1) Why does this work? Why shouldn't it? (2) Is it possible that not using the default/found block size will cause issues? Yes. Without more background in what you're trying to do (you don't even say what backup program or what medium you're trying to back up to), or what your concerns are, it's difficult to answer this question. There are no specific issues with block size on most archivers, but in general large block sizes (64 kB or larger) will give better performance. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgptR7e7CVpJY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing Services at University of South Australia
On Monday, 1 May 2006 at 17:27:03 +0930, Harish Sukumar wrote: I have recently deployed FreeBSD on couple of machines at the University and I am not quite familiar with *nix You should talk to Ben Close (copied). So can you please provide me with some documents that I can use to configure services like samba (As PDC), DNS,DHCP, LDAP and So on. Start with the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html) or The Complete FreeBSD (http://.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/). If you have specific questions, look for them on the web. If you don't find anything, ask here again. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpOaekBf9Dxv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dd issues
On Monday, 1 May 2006 at 21:21:26 -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote: On 5/1/06, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without more background in what you're trying to do (you don't even say what backup program or what medium you're trying to back up to), or what your concerns are, it's difficult to answer this question. There are no specific issues with block size on most archivers, but in general large block sizes (64 kB or larger) will give better performance. program is dd, source medium is CD, destination medium is hard drive. That doesn't sound like a backup to me. dd isn't a backup program, and CDs are not normally things you back up. But they have a sector size of 2 kB, so you will need to transfer in multiples of 2 kB. As I said above, 64 kB or larger is a good idea. Use the conv=sync operation to transfer the last incomplete block correctly. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgprpbqJGg5wH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Determining whether or not a SCSI disk is in use
On Friday, 14 April 2006 at 1:27:18 -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: Hello again list, Just wondering if there was any way where I could possibly tie into the kernel or do something where I could determine whether or not a disk is currently 'in use'. Problem: I'm trying to spin down my disks periodically via a cronjob to save energy, reduce noise, and heat, and I don't want my disk to be spun down if it is currently in use. I do listen to music and watch videos for extended periods of time, so I'd rather not cause undue stress to the hard disks and cause the program I'm using on another machine to choke and die. This all depends on what you mean by in use. Do you mean recently accessed? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpYmfxOtkhOZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BST instead of GMT
On Friday, 7 April 2006 at 11:34:29 +0100, Philip Radford wrote: On Friday, April 07, 2006 12:52 AM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: [text omitted] Thanks for your comments. Both /etc/localtime and /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/London are the same. I have since created /etc/localtime as a symbolic link to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/London but still only shows GMT when I enter date. Yes, that won't make any difference. The only thing I haven't mentioned to date is that I use bash as my shell if that is an issue. No, I use bash too. Also there was a lot of talk while researching on google about a TZ environment variable. Should I have this set as I do not have one at the moment. You shouldn't set one. But what happens with these commands? $ date $ TZ=Europe/London date It could be that your clock is just set incorrectly. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp0RamVuOi2z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BST instead of GMT
On Thursday, 6 April 2006 at 10:58:10 +0100, Philip Radford wrote: Hi all, I am looking for a way to get my FreeBSD 5.3 box to show my local time as BST (British Summer Time) as apposed to GMT. I have checked and double-checked the timezone and have set this to Europe/London. How? However I think I need to do something with the locale. Hunting around led me to the /etc/login.conf and the concept of classes but can't understand or follow the documentation to get it set up correctly. Any help or guidance would be appreciated. Well, the obvious question: where's the problem? How do you determine that there's something wrong? Your mail system is reporting UTC+0100. If you have the right date and the right contents of /etc/localtime, it should be impossible for it to show GMT. What happens when you enter the following? $ date $ cmp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/London /etc/localtime If the cmp says they're different, change to cp and try again. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpkWfiFU96jH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Not an easy install
On Saturday, 25 March 2006 at 9:36:04 -0500, Tim wrote: Why couldn't you guys make a install easy instead of this and that, ok I am a newbie and it should be easy, I have installed Ubuntu, it was like a dream, smooth as silk, Fedora pretty much the same FreeBSD, its a nitemare if you have never done it, I am now reloading windows and then putting back Ubuntu, unless someone over there can make it simple even for me. Heh. As I read this, I'm trying to install Ubuntu. It's like pulling teeth. By the contrary, installing FreeBSD is *so* simple, I could do it in my sleep. OK, so when it comes to installing FreeBSD, I wrote the book (http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/). But maybe you should think that things are just different. FWIW, some very clever Linux friends of mine are also baffled by the problems I'm having. So, what's *your* problem? You haven't mentioned any details. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpDrvN6xd2Y8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mysql for freebsd 6.0
On Thursday, 23 March 2006 at 0:52:18 -0500, kalin mintchev wrote: hi all... i can't see the mysql 5 version for freebsd 6.0 on the mysql developer site? am i blind or it's on purpose?!?! No, it's on its way. We should have a version up within a week or so. But you're the first person I've seen who wants to install from the MySQL site. Why do you prefer this approach over the Ports Collection? FWIW, there are differences between the version that we (MySQL) supply and the version that we (FreeBSD) supply, notably in the compiler options and installation paths. We're actively trying to ensure that both versions will be the same. If anybody on this list has suggestions which version is better, I'd be interested in hearing them. Greg -- Greg Lehey, Senior Software Engineer MySQL AB, http://www.mysql.com/ Echunga, South Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED], sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you MySQL certified? http://www.mysql.com/certification/ pgp9elj5bqN6k.pgp Description: PGP signature
Do you use MySQL?
If you use MySQL on FreeBSD, you have many choices, probably too many: which version of FreeBSD? Which version of MySQL? Which threading libraries? Where do you get the MySQL software from? How do you install it? In all likelihood you'd be happier with less choice: just the right one. At MySQL, we're talking about how to simplify this mess^Wsituation. Obviously with my MySQL hat on, I'd recommend release 5.0; with my FreeBSD hat on, I'd recommend 6.1-RELEASE when it comes out next week. But that doesn't mean that you have to agree with me, and there are a number of other questions anyway. I'd like some feedback from users on the following questions: - Which version of FreeBSD are you running? - Which version of MySQL are you running? - If you're not running MySQL 5.0, why not? - Where do you get your MySQL software from? * From the MySQL web site? * From a FreeBSD CD/DVD distribution? * Package (precompiled) from the FreeBSD web site (either directly or via a mirror)? * From the ports collection? - Which threading library are you using? Why? - Have you had to change the default installation (different compile flags, different installation directories, etc.)? - Do you have any problems that you think are related to the choice of the version you're using? Normally I send messages to this forum with the following request: When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. In this case, I'm expecting many answers. Clearly, individual answers are not as interesting as the statistics. Feel free to answer directly to me, or to copy the list, as you prefer. I'll summarize after a while. This message is *not* soliciting information about general problems you might have with MySQL. I'll certainly listen if you have this kind of problem, but please make it a separate message to this list. Greg -- For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Greg Lehey, Senior Software Engineer MySQL AB, http://www.mysql.com/ Echunga, South Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 Are you MySQL certified? http://www.mysql.com/certification/ pgpgz07ixQrw8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel dump then what
On Tuesday, 7 March 2006 at 10:01:48 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: Hi, Now I managed to get a kernel dump. I even got two of them, with different panic, both page fault, one on read, one on write. The machine had been runing fine for a year when it started to panic on heavly load. I updated the kernel but not to avail. I tried all the hardware monitoring in usr/ports/sysutil but none could report CPU temperature for that Asus CUR-DLS motherboard. I do suspect a temperature problem because when I kept the rack drawer open it it not panic. What should I do next? There's a somewhat out-of-date document in the handbook, also my tutorial notes at http://.lemis.com/grog/Papers/Debug-tutorial/tutorial.pdf. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpd8BqEI5SpT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: AND COBOL
On Tuesday, 7 March 2006 at 18:47:25 -0500, Chris Hill wrote: On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Gabriel wrote: HI, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF RMCOBOL RUNS IN FREEBSD, THANKS. GABRIEL DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANY RMCOBOL, BUT THERE EXISTS open-cobol AND tinycobol UNDER /usr/ports/lang. PS - NO NEED TO SHOUT, BUT I TRY TO ANSWER IN THE LANGUAGE IN WHICH I WAS ADDRESSED, WHERE POSSIBLE. Modern COBOL dialects understand lower case. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpqi8ZlMv8bs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: French accents test
On Monday, 27 February 2006 at 0:05:31 -0500, Peter wrote: --- clue less [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the mailing list improperly strip iso-8859-1 encoding and render it as unescaped UTF-8? This is a test to see: �����. I see the proper characters but when I reply in my yahoo account I get a question mark in a black circle for each character. This is a problem on my end no doubt. Here is a test of my own: éà ïà People, please use the FreeBSD-test mailing list for this sort of thing. In this case, though, Peter, you're using the wrong encoding. According to your message, it was ISO 8859-1. What you sent looks more like UTF-8 (and is thus mangled). Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp5rdJOCO29N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 10 years of The Complete FreeBSD
On Friday, 24 February 2006 at 14:10:59 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-02-24 16:50, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, 23 February 2006 at 23:44:30 -0500, David Stanford wrote: I purchased this book nearly a year ago shortly after I began using FreeBSD and it has been an invaluable resource ever since. Now that you have made it publicly available, maybe the FreeBSD project could find a way to merge some of your book in with their own handbook or at least link it on FreeBSD.org for newbies like myself to easily find :). That's probably a good idea. Can somebody from the doc project comment? Yes. I would very much like to see this published online at least as part of our publish.html page. Greg, if I have your approval, the following patch is the least I can to thank you for all the work you've put into the book all these years, and for releasing it now: You, too, are welcome :-) --- publish.sgml 4 Oct 2005 21:58:59 - 1.66 +++ publish.sgml 24 Feb 2006 12:07:48 - @@ -188,13 +188,21 @@ tr tda href=http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdcomp;IMG SRC=gifs/bsdcomp-4.2.gif WIDTH=200 HEIGHT=220 alt=book cover/a/td td - The Complete FreeBSD with CDs, 3rd Ed, FreeBSD 4.2. + pThe Complete FreeBSD with CDs, 3rd Ed, FreeBSD 4.2. Well, the current version is the 4th edition, and it covers FreeBSD 5.0. It also doesn't have CDs. Everything you ever wanted to know about how to get your computer up and running FreeBSD. Includes 4 CDs - containing the FreeBSD operating system! + containing the FreeBSD operating system!/p Again, no CDs. - Released: November 2000 ISBN: 1-57176-246-9 - /td + pReleased: November 2000 ISBN: 1-57176-246-9/p Released May 2003, ISBN 0-596-00516-4. You should probably mention that the publisher is now O'Reilly, and maybe link to http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/cfreebsd/desc.html. + pOn 24 February 2006, at the 10th anniversary of the + publication of the first ever book on FreeBSD, Installing and + Using FreeBSD, Greg Lehey has released the full text and + sources of The Complete FreeBSD under the Creative Commons + license. The book text amp; sources are available at:/p + + pa href=http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/;http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD//a/p + /td Yup, that's fine. Since there are different versions, maybe you can also point out that this is the Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.5 license (yes, they ask for all that verbiage :-) Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpQBN4GAZOPj.pgp Description: PGP signature
10 years of The Complete FreeBSD
Ten years ago today, on 24 February 1996, I submitted for publication the final version of the first ever book on FreeBSD, Installing and Using FreeBSD. It was later renamed to The Complete FreeBSD. I have always retained full rights to the book, and for today I've decided to release it for download under the Creative Commons license. See more at http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/. Greg -- Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpJLCDT9YZrc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 10 years of The Complete FreeBSD
On Thursday, 23 February 2006 at 23:44:30 -0500, David Stanford wrote: On 2/23/06, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ten years ago today, on 24 February 1996, I submitted for publication the final version of the first ever book on FreeBSD, Installing and Using FreeBSD. It was later renamed to The Complete FreeBSD. I have always retained full rights to the book, and for today I've decided to release it for download under the Creative Commons license. See more at http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/. Greg, All I can think to say is thanks! You (and everybody else) are welcome. I purchased this book nearly a year ago shortly after I began using FreeBSD and it has been an invaluable resource ever since. Now that you have made it publicly available, maybe the FreeBSD project could find a way to merge some of your book in with their own handbook That's happened already, as you can easily see by comparing http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum-vinum.html with chapter 12 of the book. The FreeBSD documentation project know they can rely on me to contribute documentation where it makes sense. or at least link it on FreeBSD.org for newbies like myself to easily find :). That's probably a good idea. Can somebody from the doc project comment? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpGyHwipm19M.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: anyone using voip?
On Tuesday, 21 February 2006 at 22:07:11 -0500, Peter wrote: Hi, I'm looking for comments from people who are using a voip solution with FreeBSD. The archives of this group show mixed results. I see there is a skype port available. To me that implies that this is possible. What of hardware? USB phones? I've done a lot of investigation. Summary: (not only under FreeBSD): VoIP software is *really* bad. Asterisk may work if you can understand the arcane documentation, but it's overkill for a simple VoIP phone solution. The others are almost completely undocumented and difficult to use. This applies to commercial offerings too, some of which are free to use. I'm currently using linphone, mainly because it has a command-line client, and I don't see why I should have to use a mouse to make a phone call. The client is buggy, though, and very non-intuitive. For example: to call me, you might enter $ linphonec sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This will work. But I'd then expect the program to wait until termination or until I hit ^C; instead, it returns with a prompt. Hitting ^C stops the program without terminating the call. To terminate the call, you need to enter the entire text terminate. Enter ^D to exit the program and it loops. That's when you need the ^C. From a hardware point of view, I'm using a standard analogue headset with microphone. You'll need to set the recording source to microphone: $ mixer =rec mic Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. VoIP: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED], sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgprKj41fYAhT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: anyone using voip?
On Thursday, 23 February 2006 at 0:43:22 +, Alec Berryman wrote: Peter on 2006-02-22 18:55:34 -0500: --- Alec Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using Skype from ports with an analog headset and it works fantastically well. I installed skype from ports. Without a man page it was difficult to begin. I decided to execute the binary and it just sat there without any output whatsover. Do you have any notes? It just started up for me. It's a Linux binary; have you properly enabled Linux compatibility as described in the handbook? You might refer to the documentation on www.skype.com, but it was very much plug-and-play. I'd guess that Peter is asking: OK, it works. Now how do I use it?. That's where I was left with Skype. I suppose that would change if I had anybody to talk to over it. But it's a proprietary solution where there are open solutions; why choose it? Before somebody answers, I know the answer: it gives you ($) access to POTS, and it works (apparently) better than some open VoIP solutions. But I'd rather fix the open solution. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpsxrd2bSwxj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MySQL version for 6.0
On Monday, 6 February 2006 at 11:14:39 +0100, Bjrn Knig wrote: Greg 'groggy' Lehey schrieb: I'd be interested to know why you recommend version 4.1 over 5.0. I still had not enough time to investigate 5.0. I just ran sql-bench a few times on a dual Pentium III 733 machine and noticed that 5.0 was up to 10% slower than 4.1 with the default configuration. So my recommendation is neither binding nor reasonable; it's just a random proposal according to my feeling. :-) If people do have issues with MySQL performance, let me remind you of the mailing lists at http://forums.mysql.com/. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpzRRBi7USNJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MySQL install fails - can't find mysqlclient.14
On Monday, 6 February 2006 at 14:28:31 -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: On Monday 06 February 2006 14:18, Seth Burgess wrote: I am working on installing MySQL 4.1 - Server on Freebsd 4.8. I have gone through several tries and am now stuck with the following error which comes up very quickly when I run make. seth# make /usr/ports/misc/ldconfig_compat/bsd.ldconfig.mk, line 7: Missing dependency operator /usr/ports/databases/mysql41-client/../mysql41-server/Makefile, line 224: if-less endif /usr/ports/databases/mysql41-client/../mysql41-server/Makefile, line 224: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** Error code 1 The make in 4.8 doesn't support the ($ combination. This will be a constantly recurring problem that you can avoid by updating to a current version of the OS. This is doubtless the best advice. If for some reason you can't upgrade, however, note that there are binaries for 4.8 on the MySQL downloads site. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgprF1u75raVV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MySQL version for 6.0
On Sunday, 5 February 2006 at 22:00:13 +0100, Bjrn Knig wrote: je killen schrieb: Greetings: I'm looking to find out if there is a current version of MySQL specific for v6 FreeBSD on AMD64. I don't see one on the MySQL site and I don't know if I can successfully build it from source on this machine. thanks; Jeff K You can use FreeBSD's software management to install mysql. After you have installed FreeBSD you can install MySQL easily: pkg_add -r mysql41-server Alternativeyl you can choose mysql323-server, mysql40-server or mysql50-server. The current version is, of course, mysql50-server. Version 3.23 is obsolete and is no longer being maintained. I'd be interested to know why you recommend version 4.1 over 5.0. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpzOGc8ZppvF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: remote x-window
On Friday, 3 February 2006 at 8:58:08 +, Michael Fleming wrote: On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:48:56PM -0900, Beech Rintoul wrote: I have sort of a newbie question. How do I connect to a remote machine with x-windows and get a desktop? Could someone point me in the right direction as I've never had a need to to do it before. I do have ssh to the machine. You'll have to export $DISPLAY=x.x.x.x:0.0 so that the display on the remote machine is displayed on the local. Specifically, the DISPLAY environment variable states the name of the remote host, the server number and the screen number. Normally you only have one server, which is then 0. It's quite common to have more than one screen: I'm writing this on echunga.lemis.com:0.0, but there are two further screens called echunga.lemis.com:0.1 and echunga.lemis.com:0.2. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/hardware.html for an example. You'll also have to forward X11 packets, check your ssh_conf so that forward X11 yes. This is for tunnelling over ssh. I wouldn't recommend that in a local context. I use cygwin on my work laptop ( XP ) and a openvpn connection to my BSD machine then fire up the display on the XP machine. It's possible that you'd need it here, but between BSD machines it's just overhead. One thing that you don't mention is whether the server will listen on TCP. This used to be the default, but it isn't any more. If you're using startx, you'll have to remove the 'nolisten-tcp' option. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/desktop.html. If you're using KDE or GNOME, you'll probably have to do something similar. I don't know the details, though. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpYKbWB8fWbS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Unable to compile mysql50-server
On Thursday, 2 February 2006 at 6:49:58 +0700, Roger Merritt wrote: Yesterday I ran portinstall to install the mysql-server, left the job going overnight, and as expected had to reboot this morning. I noticed that portinstall did some configuring (which I had forgotten to do when I ran make the previous times), and I didn't want to waste anything that had gotten compiled, so rather than run portinstall again I went back to the mysql50-server directory and ran make, since the configuration files were already there. This time I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ports/databases/mysql50-server# make ... After a couple of minutes my console started filling up with messages: swap-pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: xx, size: 4096, or sometimes 8192. The blkno varies from 27852 to38249. You don't say which version of FreeBSD (indeed, not even if you're using FreeBSD). Normally this is a hardware error. The disk with the swap partition may be dying. It definitely doesn't have anything directly to do with MySQL. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpgl4FpkJNSw.pgp Description: PGP signature
