Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-20 Thread Gal Lis
Hi everyone, I have a mixed update: I was able to get it running, but once
it starts, it gets stuck. Here are the last two lines: isab0: pci-isa
bridge. at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: isa bus on isab0

Please let me know if you need more info, or you have any advice on what
this could be.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Gal Lis galg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for that, I'm sorry I didn't mention what version I downloaded
 earlier. I will reply once I test it out.


 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk 
 m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote:

 ia64 is for Itanium processor . Therefore ia64 can NOT work on Intel
 Pentium series processors .
 Their architectures are different .

 You should download amd64 ISO .  amd64 is for both Intel 64 bits and AMD
 64 bits pocessors
 compatible to each other  .

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Gal Lis galg...@gmail.com wrote:

 They should definitely support it. My workstation has an Intel E5320 quad
 core, and the M600 has a 5400 series chip, but I can't remember which one
 exactly. They should definitely be able to handle it.
  I downloaded the 7.1 ia64, maybe there is something else I should be
 downloading?

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk 
 m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote:


 You said 32-bits 6.4 could be loaded .
 A question coming to mind is
 Can your processor handle 64-bits ?
 Please check this issue .


 Thank you very much .

 Mehmet Erol sanliturk



 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Gal Lis galg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess that shows just how unexperienced I am with all of this.






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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-20 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Gal Lis galg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone, I have a mixed update: I was able to get it running, but once
 it starts, it gets stuck. Here are the last two lines: isab0: pci-isa
 bridge. at device 31.0 on pci0
 isa0: isa bus on isab0

 Please let me know if you need more info, or you have any advice on what
 this could be.



I do not know exact reason of that problem , but i can say the following :

Another approach may be to install 7.1 i386 ISO . If  32-bits works . but
64-bits does not work .
it may mean that a hardware part is not usable by the 64-bits operating
system .


If 32-bits even does not work ( we know that 6.4 32-bits is working ) this
may mean that in your
PC there is an older hardware which its support is or has been removed from
the operating system .


Another approach would be removal of components from ISA slots and then try
to boot the 64-bits operating system . If it can boot , then add the ISA
components one-by-one to isolate which component is causing the lock up .

If even this does not work :

Then best action may be to use 6.4  or if it is possible to replace the
older hardware by a newer  ( or compatible )  hardware .  In new main boards
there is no ISA bus slots . ISA slots components  approximately can NOT be
auto-detected easily because they do not have such a related circuitry .


There is another point : Some manufacturers are producing parts which can
only work by a famous
widely used operating system by cutting some electronic circuitry parts .
Such components can NOT work under Unix or Linux . During selection of parts
it may be useful to check whether at least it can work under Linux if BSD is
not mentioned at all .



Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Gal Lis
Hi Frank,
Thanks for the reply, I see what to compare the checksums to on the site, 
but I have a Windows machine. Any hints on how to check? 
Sorry to ask these mundane questions, but I'm a linux novice.

Thank you! 




From: Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk
To: Gal Lis gal_...@yahoo.com
Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:23:52 PM
Subject: Re: 7.1 64 bit

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:08:25PM -0700, Gal Lis wrote:

 Hi Frank and Glen,

  I tried both disks on my workstation, and 6.4 started up, but
  there was nothing from 7.1, so maybe my copy is bad.  I burned
  it using imgburn, and i also have magiciso. How can I check to
  make sure the file is correct? I've never checksumed anything,
  and haven't been able to find any help online on how to do so. 
 

Look here:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/announce.html

The checksums are listed there.

For you to checksum your iso, you do this on a unix/linux machine:

$ md5 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso

and compare the checksum printed to that published on that page.

If the checksum is different, then you got some corruption and need to
download the image again.

My guess is that the software you used didn't burn the iso correctly.

Load up 6.4 and burn your CD from there, something like the following
should do it:

# burncd -f /dev/acd0 data 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso fixate


Regards,

-- 

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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Gal Lis gal_...@yahoo.com:

 Hi Frank,
 Thanks for the reply, I see what to compare the checksums to on the site, 
 but I have a Windows machine. Any hints on how to check?

http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/

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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Gal Lis
Thank you! I got have another ISO that matches, I'm going to burn and test it.




From: Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com
To: Gal Lis gal_...@yahoo.com
Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:30:09 AM
Subject: Re: 7.1 64 bit

In response to Gal Lis gal_...@yahoo.com:

 Hi Frank,
 Thanks for the reply, I see what to compare the checksums to on the site, 
 but I have a Windows machine. Any hints on how to check?

http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/

-- 
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http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/

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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Gal Lis
I burned another copy, using another ISO whose checksum comes out ok, and it 
still isn't loading. What else can I be doing wrong? 




From: Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com
To: Gal Lis gal_...@yahoo.com
Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:30:09 AM
Subject: Re: 7.1 64 bit

In response to Gal Lis gal_...@yahoo.com:

 Hi Frank,
 Thanks for the reply, I see what to compare the checksums to on the site, 
 but I have a Windows machine. Any hints on how to check?

http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/

-- 
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http://www.potentialtech.com
http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/

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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Adam Vandemore

Gal Lis wrote:
I burned another copy, using another ISO whose checksum comes out ok, and it still isn't loading. What else can I be doing wrong? 





From: Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com
To: Gal Lis gal_...@yahoo.com
Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:30:09 AM
Subject: Re: 7.1 64 bit

In response to Gal Lis gal_...@yahoo.com:

  

Hi Frank,
Thanks for the reply, I see what to compare the checksums to on the site, 
but I have a Windows machine. Any hints on how to check?



http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/

  
First  you need to isolate the problem.  As someone else suggested, try 
booting another computer with the disk.  Check BIOS boot order to make 
sure it checks cd drive first.  Try another bootable disk in system.  
I've seen lockups in booting off install disc, but the only situations 
in which a system would fail to attempt to boot off of it is when either 
media or drive is bad.  If all else fails I believe there is a process 
to boot from flash drive and install via that method.


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Systems Administrator
IMED Mobility
(605) 498-1610

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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Ross Cameron
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gal Lis gal_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Sorry to ask these mundane questions, but I'm a linux novice.


Linux != FreeBSD
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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:28:22PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gal Lis gal_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Sorry to ask these mundane questions, but I'm a linux novice.
 
 Linux != FreeBSD

But, the OP will still probably get better information on the
FreeBSD lists than over there.

If it is a UNIX question, it might be relevant anyway.

jerry
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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Gal Lis
I guess that shows just how unexperienced I am with all of this.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Ross Cameron abal...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gal Lis gal_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Sorry to ask these mundane questions, but I'm a linux novice.


 Linux != FreeBSD

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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Wojciech Puchar
anyway - you SOMEHOW got into that list and not linux one. So you must 
know something about FreeBSD anyway :)


On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Gal Lis wrote:


I guess that shows just how unexperienced I am with all of this.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Ross Cameron abal...@gmail.com wrote:


On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gal Lis gal_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Sorry to ask these mundane questions, but I'm a linux novice.



Linux != FreeBSD


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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
You said 32-bits 6.4 could be loaded .
A question coming to mind is
Can your processor handle 64-bits ?
Please check this issue .


Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol sanliturk


On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Gal Lis galg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess that shows just how unexperienced I am with all of this.


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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Gal Lis
They should definitely support it. My workstation has an Intel E5320 quad
core, and the M600 has a 5400 series chip, but I can't remember which one
exactly. They should definitely be able to handle it.
I downloaded the 7.1 ia64, maybe there is something else I should be
downloading?

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk 
m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote:


 You said 32-bits 6.4 could be loaded .
 A question coming to mind is
 Can your processor handle 64-bits ?
 Please check this issue .


 Thank you very much .

 Mehmet Erol sanliturk



 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Gal Lis galg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess that shows just how unexperienced I am with all of this.



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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Adam Vandemore

Gal Lis wrote:

They should definitely support it. My workstation has an Intel E5320 quad
core, and the M600 has a 5400 series chip, but I can't remember which one
exactly. They should definitely be able to handle it.
I downloaded the 7.1 ia64, maybe there is something else I should be
downloading?

  
You should be going for the AMD64 unless that's an itanium based 
instruction set.  I believe your CPU is not, so try w/ AMD64.


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Systems Administrator
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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Gal Lis
Well that explains a lot. I will try it and report back. Thanks to everyone
for your help so far!

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Adam Vandemore amvandem...@gmail.comwrote:

 Gal Lis wrote:

 They should definitely support it. My workstation has an Intel E5320 quad
 core, and the M600 has a 5400 series chip, but I can't remember which one
 exactly. They should definitely be able to handle it.
 I downloaded the 7.1 ia64, maybe there is something else I should be
 downloading?



 You should be going for the AMD64 unless that's an itanium based
 instruction set.  I believe your CPU is not, so try w/ AMD64.

 --
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 Systems Administrator
 IMED Mobility
 (605) 498-1610


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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
ia64 is for Itanium processor . Therefore ia64 can NOT work on Intel Pentium
series processors .
Their architectures are different .

You should download amd64 ISO .  amd64 is for both Intel 64 bits and AMD 64
bits pocessors
compatible to each other  .

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Gal Lis galg...@gmail.com wrote:

 They should definitely support it. My workstation has an Intel E5320 quad
 core, and the M600 has a 5400 series chip, but I can't remember which one
 exactly. They should definitely be able to handle it.
 I downloaded the 7.1 ia64, maybe there is something else I should be
 downloading?

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk 
 m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote:


 You said 32-bits 6.4 could be loaded .
 A question coming to mind is
 Can your processor handle 64-bits ?
 Please check this issue .


 Thank you very much .

 Mehmet Erol sanliturk



 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Gal Lis galg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess that shows just how unexperienced I am with all of this.




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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-18 Thread Gal Lis
Thanks for that, I'm sorry I didn't mention what version I downloaded
earlier. I will reply once I test it out.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk 
m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote:

 ia64 is for Itanium processor . Therefore ia64 can NOT work on Intel
 Pentium series processors .
 Their architectures are different .

 You should download amd64 ISO .  amd64 is for both Intel 64 bits and AMD 64
 bits pocessors
 compatible to each other  .

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Gal Lis galg...@gmail.com wrote:

 They should definitely support it. My workstation has an Intel E5320 quad
 core, and the M600 has a 5400 series chip, but I can't remember which one
 exactly. They should definitely be able to handle it.
  I downloaded the 7.1 ia64, maybe there is something else I should be
 downloading?

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk 
 m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote:


 You said 32-bits 6.4 could be loaded .
 A question coming to mind is
 Can your processor handle 64-bits ?
 Please check this issue .


 Thank you very much .

 Mehmet Erol sanliturk



 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Gal Lis galg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess that shows just how unexperienced I am with all of this.





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7.1 64 bit

2009-03-17 Thread Gal Lis
Hello,
I have tried installing 7.1 64 bit onto a Dell M600 in an M1000E enclosure for 
a client, and the 7.1 disk does not boot. Is there anything you can recommend? 
I have installed 6.4 32 bit onto it with no issues. 


Thank you. 
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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-17 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:25:34AM -0700, Gal Lis wrote:

 Hello,

 I have tried installing 7.1 64 bit onto a Dell M600 in an M1000E
 enclosure for a client, and the 7.1 disk does not boot. Is there
 anything you can recommend? I have installed 6.4 32 bit onto it with
 no issues. 
 
 
 Thank you. 

I'd investigate why your 7.1 AMD64 disk doesn't boot. How did you burn
it? Did you checksum the image before burning?

Regards,

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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-17 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Gal Lis gal_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I have tried installing 7.1 64 bit onto a Dell M600 in an M1000E enclosure 
 for a client, and the 7.1 disk does not boot. Is there anything you can 
 recommend? I have installed 6.4 32 bit onto it with no issues.


Can you try to boot the disc on a different machine?

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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-17 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:08:25PM -0700, Gal Lis wrote:

 Hi Frank and Glen,

  I tried both disks on my workstation, and 6.4 started up, but
  there was nothing from 7.1, so maybe my copy is bad.  I burned
  it using imgburn, and i also have magiciso. How can I check to
  make sure the file is correct? I've never checksumed anything,
  and haven't been able to find any help online on how to do so. 
 

Look here:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/announce.html

The checksums are listed there.

For you to checksum your iso, you do this on a unix/linux machine:

$ md5 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso

and compare the checksum printed to that published on that page.

If the checksum is different, then you got some corruption and need to
download the image again.

My guess is that the software you used didn't burn the iso correctly.

Load up 6.4 and burn your CD from there, something like the following
should do it:

# burncd -f /dev/acd0 data 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso fixate


Regards,

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