Re: FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg 7.3

2007-11-01 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:02:42PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
 --On October 31, 2007 12:43:48 PM -0400 John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I hope this is an appropriate list for this type of question; please let
 me know if another list is more suitable to newbie-type quesions.
 
 I've been using Linux for a long time, and every year or so I have a
 crack at *BSD to see what I'm missing.  But it never works out.
 
 So, trying again...
 
 I think I want to start with FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg upgraded to 7.3.  I
 tried to accomplish this over the course of several installs.  In the
 end, I decided this should work:
 
 a)  install 6.2, plain User setup (NOT with Xorg, and NOT with ports)
 
 b) portsnap fetch
 
 c) portsnap extract
 
 d) cd to /usr/ports/x11/xorg  and make install clean
 
 When I do pkg_version -v, it SEEMS to have installed the xorg that I
 want.
 
 Is this the right procedure to start with?
 
 Yes, with one caveat.  You need to run mergebase.sh or manually create the 
 symlink for /usr/X11R6.  /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/mergebase.sh

No, that is not necessary if he installs everything from scratch.



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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg 7.3

2007-11-01 Thread RW
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:50:57 +0100
Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:02:42PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:

  Yes, with one caveat.  You need to run mergebase.sh or manually
  create the symlink
  for /usr/X11R6.  /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/mergebase.sh
 
 No, that is not necessary if he installs everything from scratch.

It's still sensible to run mergebase.sh as FreeBSD 6.2 was released
before the change and there are files under /etc with hard-coded
references to /usr/X11R6. 
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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg 7.3

2007-11-01 Thread Frank Staals

Paul Schmehl wrote:

--On October 31, 2007 12:43:48 PM -0400 John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I hope this is an appropriate list for this type of question; please let
me know if another list is more suitable to newbie-type quesions.

I've been using Linux for a long time, and every year or so I have a
crack at *BSD to see what I'm missing.  But it never works out.

So, trying again...

I think I want to start with FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg upgraded to 7.3.  I
tried to accomplish this over the course of several installs.  In the
end, I decided this should work:

a)  install 6.2, plain User setup (NOT with Xorg, and NOT with ports)

b) portsnap fetch

c) portsnap extract

d) cd to /usr/ports/x11/xorg  and make install clean

When I do pkg_version -v, it SEEMS to have installed the xorg that I
want.

Is this the right procedure to start with?


Yes, with one caveat.  You need to run mergebase.sh or manually create 
the symlink for /usr/X11R6.  /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/mergebase.sh
Isn't the default X11BASE for 6.2 still on /usr/X11R6/  I thought it 
still was, then you will run into trouble again when you are going to 
update Xorg again in the future. So I think you will need a 
X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} in /etc/make.conf


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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg 7.3

2007-11-01 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, November 01, 2007 09:50:57 +0100 Erik Trulsson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:02:42PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:

--On October 31, 2007 12:43:48 PM -0400 John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I hope this is an appropriate list for this type of question; please let
me know if another list is more suitable to newbie-type quesions.

I've been using Linux for a long time, and every year or so I have a
crack at *BSD to see what I'm missing.  But it never works out.

So, trying again...

I think I want to start with FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg upgraded to 7.3.  I
tried to accomplish this over the course of several installs.  In the
end, I decided this should work:

a)  install 6.2, plain User setup (NOT with Xorg, and NOT with ports)

b) portsnap fetch

c) portsnap extract

d) cd to /usr/ports/x11/xorg  and make install clean

When I do pkg_version -v, it SEEMS to have installed the xorg that I
want.

Is this the right procedure to start with?


Yes, with one caveat.  You need to run mergebase.sh or manually create
the  symlink for /usr/X11R6.  /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/mergebase.sh


No, that is not necessary if he installs everything from scratch.


It was when we did it here.  How else would the symlink get created?  In 
fact, xorg-libraries refused to install until we ran mergebase.sh.  This 
was a pristine 6.2 RELEASE install without xorg, followed by a cvsup and 
the make install clean in the xorg meta port.


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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg 7.3

2007-11-01 Thread Tino Engel
Unfortunately portsnap fetch has performed an upgrade to xorg-7.3_1 for 
RELENG_6_2.
I do not trust this at all. I would bet doing a portupgrade would break xorg 
more or less irreversibly. I have already gone through this trying to upgrade 
to RELENG_7.
Is there a poosiblilty to revert the upgrade of the ports tree back to the 
stable version?

 Isn't the default X11BASE for 6.2 still on /usr/X11R6/  I thought it
 still was, then you will run into trouble again when you are going to
 update Xorg again in the future. So I think you will need a
 X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} in /etc/make.conf


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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg 7.3

2007-11-01 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Tino Engel wrote:


Unfortunately portsnap fetch has performed an upgrade to xorg-7.3_1 for
RELENG_6_2.
I do not trust this at all. I would bet doing a portupgrade would break xorg
more or less irreversibly. I have already gone through this trying to upgrade
to RELENG_7.
Is there a poosiblilty to revert the upgrade of the ports tree back to the
stable version?


The latest xorg runs fine on 6.2.  Well, 6.2-STABLE here:

FreeBSD speedy.wonkity.com 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Wed Oct 10 12:48:47 MDT 2007 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SPEEDY  i386


This system was upgraded with mergebase, and I don't have any settings 
for X11BASE in make.conf.


If you really want, portdowngrade can retrieve earlier versions of 
ports.  For xorg, that way lies madness.  Or maybe it's over there-.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg 7.3

2007-11-01 Thread James
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 21:56 +, Tino Engel wrote:

 Unfortunately portsnap fetch has performed an upgrade to xorg-7.3_1 for 
 RELENG_6_2.
 I do not trust this at all. I would bet doing a portupgrade would break xorg 
 more or less irreversibly. I have already gone through this trying to upgrade 
 to RELENG_7.
 Is there a poosiblilty to revert the upgrade of the ports tree back to the 
 stable version?
 
  Isn't the default X11BASE for 6.2 still on /usr/X11R6/  I thought it
  still was, then you will run into trouble again when you are going to
  update Xorg again in the future. So I think you will need a
  X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} in /etc/make.conf


Suck it up and do the upgrade. 6.9-7.2 was moderately difficult, but
with the new whizzy modular Xorg, it's only a one or two command job.
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FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg 7.3

2007-10-31 Thread John
I hope this is an appropriate list for this type of question; please let me
know if another list is more suitable to newbie-type quesions.

I've been using Linux for a long time, and every year or so I have a crack
at *BSD to see what I'm missing.  But it never works out.

So, trying again...

I think I want to start with FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg upgraded to 7.3.  I tried
to accomplish this over the course of several installs.  In the end, I
decided this should work:

a)  install 6.2, plain User setup (NOT with Xorg, and NOT with ports)

b) portsnap fetch

c) portsnap extract

d) cd to /usr/ports/x11/xorg  and make install clean

When I do pkg_version -v, it SEEMS to have installed the xorg that I want.

Is this the right procedure to start with?  Should I have set up that
vulnerability database?

Any  advice appreciated.

John
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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg 7.3

2007-10-31 Thread James
On 10/31/07, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I hope this is an appropriate list for this type of question; please let
 me
 know if another list is more suitable to newbie-type quesions.

 I've been using Linux for a long time, and every year or so I have a crack
 at *BSD to see what I'm missing.  But it never works out.

 So, trying again...

 I think I want to start with FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg upgraded to 7.3.  I
 tried
 to accomplish this over the course of several installs.  In the end, I
 decided this should work:

 a)  install 6.2, plain User setup (NOT with Xorg, and NOT with ports)

 b) portsnap fetch

 c) portsnap extract

 d) cd to /usr/ports/x11/xorg  and make install clean

 When I do pkg_version -v, it SEEMS to have installed the xorg that I want.

 Is this the right procedure to start with?


Yes. The file you should be aware of from now on is /usr/ports/UPDATING.
It's notes for updating. But you didn't update anything, you installed from
scratch.



Should I have set up that
 vulnerability database?


What're you thinking of? portaudit?


Any  advice appreciated.

 John
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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg 7.3

2007-10-31 Thread Paul Schmehl

--On October 31, 2007 12:43:48 PM -0400 John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I hope this is an appropriate list for this type of question; please let
me know if another list is more suitable to newbie-type quesions.

I've been using Linux for a long time, and every year or so I have a
crack at *BSD to see what I'm missing.  But it never works out.

So, trying again...

I think I want to start with FreeBSD 6.2 with Xorg upgraded to 7.3.  I
tried to accomplish this over the course of several installs.  In the
end, I decided this should work:

a)  install 6.2, plain User setup (NOT with Xorg, and NOT with ports)

b) portsnap fetch

c) portsnap extract

d) cd to /usr/ports/x11/xorg  and make install clean

When I do pkg_version -v, it SEEMS to have installed the xorg that I
want.

Is this the right procedure to start with?


Yes, with one caveat.  You need to run mergebase.sh or manually create the 
symlink for /usr/X11R6.  /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/mergebase.sh




 Should I have set up that
vulnerability database?

I assume you refer to portaudit?  I don't think the order you install it 
in is all that important.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/