How long will 4.x be supported?

2005-01-07 Thread sp0ng3b0b
Given the serious stability issues that *some* users are having with 
5.3, many are sticking with 4.x for production servers.

Will FreeBSD keep the 4.x line alive for a little while longer? Perhaps 
going into 4.12, 4.13, etc?

I ask this only because I don't see a lot of communication to the list 
about these issues being addressed.

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Re: How long will 4.x be supported?

2005-01-07 Thread DanGer
Hi sp0ng3b0b,

Friday, January 7, 2005, 10:49:23 PM, you typed:

 Given the serious stability issues that *some* users are having with
 5.3, many are sticking with 4.x for production servers.

 Will FreeBSD keep the 4.x line alive for a little while longer? Perhaps
 going into 4.12, 4.13, etc?

next 4.x release - 4.11 will be the last release from 4.x branch

 I ask this only because I don't see a lot of communication to the list
 about these issues being addressed.


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Re: How long will 4.x be supported?

2005-01-07 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Given the serious stability issues that *some* users are having with 
 5.3, many are sticking with 4.x for production servers.
 
 Will FreeBSD keep the 4.x line alive for a little while longer? Perhaps 
 going into 4.12, 4.13, etc?

It has been stated that they hope 4.11 will be the last release 
in the 4.xx track.   That is due out at the end of January.
I don't think that 4.11 being the last out is hard and fast yet though.

I don't see much discussion of stability or security issues with 5.3+ - 
only some gripes about it being a little slow and some comments that
not all the debug code has yet been removed which accounts for a 
portion of the slowness in some things - network response, I think.

 I ask this only because I don't see a lot of communication to the list 
 about these issues being addressed.

It has been discussed a number of times.

jerry

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Re: How long will 4.x be supported?

2005-01-07 Thread M
On Jan 7, 2005, at 4:54 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote:
It has been stated that they hope 4.11 will be the last release
in the 4.xx track.   That is due out at the end of January.
I don't think that 4.11 being the last out is hard and fast yet though.
If I recall 4.8 or 4.9 was supposed to be the last 4.X release. I 
wouldn't count on anything until they shoot it.

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Re: How long will 4.x be supported?

2005-01-07 Thread Skylar Thompson
DanGer wrote:
Hi sp0ng3b0b,
Friday, January 7, 2005, 10:49:23 PM, you typed:
 

Given the serious stability issues that *some* users are having with
5.3, many are sticking with 4.x for production servers.
   

 

Will FreeBSD keep the 4.x line alive for a little while longer? Perhaps
going into 4.12, 4.13, etc?
   

next 4.x release - 4.11 will be the last release from 4.x branch
Will there still be security patches released for 4.x? Will any patches 
be backported from 5-RELEASE?

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Re: How long will 4.x be supported?

2005-01-07 Thread Charles Swiger
On Jan 7, 2005, at 4:49 PM, sp0ng3b0b wrote:
Will FreeBSD keep the 4.x line alive for a little while longer? 
Perhaps going into 4.12, 4.13, etc?
FreeBSD is in the middle of releasing 4.11, and has committed to 
providing extended support for 4.10 through May 31, 2006 and for 
RELENG_4 (meaning 4.11, or later if need be) through January 31, 2007.

I ask this only because I don't see a lot of communication to the list 
about these issues being addressed.
http://www.freebsd.org/security/
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html
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Re: How long will 4.x be supported?

2005-01-07 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 01:49:23PM -0800, sp0ng3b0b wrote:
 Given the serious stability issues that *some* users are having with 
 5.3, many are sticking with 4.x for production servers.
 
 Will FreeBSD keep the 4.x line alive for a little while longer? Perhaps 
 going into 4.12, 4.13, etc?
 
 I ask this only because I don't see a lot of communication to the list 
 about these issues being addressed.

As far as I know there are currently no plans for any more 4.x releases
beyond the upcoming 4.11.
Security fixes will however be applied to 4.x until Jan 2007
(according to http://www.freebsd.org/security/index.html)

Considering that relatively few changes have been made to 4-STABLE
between the release of 4.10 and 4.11 and considering that this rate of
change will probably slow down even further as time goes on and most
developers move over to 5.x there probably will be too few changes
applied to 4.x to warrant a 4.12 release anytime soon.



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Re: How long will 4.x be supported?

2005-01-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 04:01:15PM -0600, Skylar Thompson wrote:

 Will there still be security patches released for 4.x? Will any patches 
 be backported from 5-RELEASE?

www.freebsd.org/security

Kris


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Re: How long will 4.x be supported?

2005-01-07 Thread Tm4528
In a message dated 1/7/05 4:50:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Given the serious stability issues that *some* users are having with 
5.3, many are sticking with 4.x for production servers.

Will FreeBSD keep the 4.x line alive for a little while longer? Perhaps 
going into 4.12, 4.13, etc?

I ask this only because I don't see a lot of communication to the list 
about these issues being addressed.

Just note that they say its supported, but if you want to use the latest 
Intel 
CPUs (800Mhz FSB Xeon64), they don't work in 4.x. Sadly noone in the
FreeBSD universe is even familiar (it seems) with new server MBs.
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Re: How long will 4.x be supported?

2005-01-07 Thread Matt Emmerton
 In a message dated 1/7/05 4:50:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Given the serious stability issues that *some* users are having with
 5.3, many are sticking with 4.x for production servers.
 
 Will FreeBSD keep the 4.x line alive for a little while longer? Perhaps
 going into 4.12, 4.13, etc?
 
 I ask this only because I don't see a lot of communication to the list
 about these issues being addressed.

 Just note that they say its supported, but if you want to use the latest
 Intel
 CPUs (800Mhz FSB Xeon64), they don't work in 4.x. Sadly noone in the
 FreeBSD universe is even familiar (it seems) with new server MBs.

I'd say those who are familiar are using 5.x.  Maybe the time to switch is
near?

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RE: How long will 4.x be supported?

2005-01-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 Given the serious stability issues that *some* users are having with
 5.3, many are sticking with 4.x for production servers.

 Will FreeBSD keep the 4.x line alive for a little while longer? Perhaps
 going into 4.12, 4.13, etc?

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.10R/announce.html

Note the line:

The current plans are for one more FreeBSD 4.X release which will be
FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE. It is expected the upcoming FreeBSD 5.3 release will
have reached the maturity level most users will be able to migrate to 5.X

Keep an eye on the release notes for 4.11 when it goes golden.

Ted

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