Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

2011-03-08 Thread Rob Farmer
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:36 PM, n j nin...@gmail.com wrote:
 openjdk-7.0.122_1
 Java Development Kit 7
 Long description : Sources : Changes : Download

 vs.

 openoffice.org-2.1.0
 Integrated wordprocessor/dbase/spreadsheet/drawing/chart/browser
 Long description | Package | Sources | Main Web Site

 In any way, I stand corrected. I should probably start testdriving
 OpenJDK to see if it can successfully replace diablo-jdk.


I would recommend openjdk6 unless you have a specific need for 7. It
is getting a lot more attention (for example, the web plugin from
IcedTea is available in 6).

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Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

2011-03-07 Thread Rodrigo Freitas
Dear friends,

I've been studying/researching to understand what is the best OS for my
production environment.
I didn't know FreeBSD until this need, and now I'm fascinated with the stuff
I've been reading about it.
I have 2 servers with the following SW/HW:

Server 1:
Postgres 9
HSQLDB (Java)
2 cpu 5620 / 48 GB RAM

Server 2:
Coldfusion 9 and other java applications
2 cpu 5620 / 24 GB RAM

I searched the web about performance and portability for these applications
on FreeBSD, but I could not find any clear article about my doubts, that's
why I'm asking for your help.

Question #1: Is anyone running Coldfusion on FreeBSD? It looks like Adobe
only supports Red Had and SuSe.

Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most
of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB)

Question #3: I read a lot of old posts saying that the overall performance
of Postgres under FreeBSD is better than on some Linux distributions. Is
this still valid for the current versions?

I appreciate your valuable time for reading this and for helping me.

Thanks a lot

Rodrigo
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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

2011-03-07 Thread Michael J. Kearney

Most .config files use the linux subsystem. . And the jre requires the proc 
filesystem. .. you dont have to run fbsd atm

Rodrigo Freitas freitas.rodr...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear friends,

I've been studying/researching to understand what is the best OS for my
production environment.
I didn't know FreeBSD until this need, and now I'm fascinated with the stuff
I've been reading about it.
I have 2 servers with the following SW/HW:

Server 1:
Postgres 9
HSQLDB (Java)
2 cpu 5620 / 48 GB RAM

Server 2:
Coldfusion 9 and other java applications
2 cpu 5620 / 24 GB RAM

I searched the web about performance and portability for these applications
on FreeBSD, but I could not find any clear article about my doubts, that's
why I'm asking for your help.

Question #1: Is anyone running Coldfusion on FreeBSD? It looks like Adobe
only supports Red Had and SuSe.

Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most
of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB)

Question #3: I read a lot of old posts saying that the overall performance
of Postgres under FreeBSD is better than on some Linux distributions. Is
this still valid for the current versions?

I appreciate your valuable time for reading this and for helping me.

Thanks a lot

Rodrigo
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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

2011-03-07 Thread Rodrigo Freitas
Michael
Excuse me, I didn't quite get your answer...

On Monday, March 7, 2011, Michael  J. Kearney mkear...@nvita.org wrote:

 Most .config files use the linux subsystem. . And the jre requires the proc 
 filesystem. .. you dont have to run fbsd atm

 Rodrigo Freitas freitas.rodr...@gmail.com wrote:


 Dear friends,

 I've been studying/researching to understand what is the best OS for my
 production environment.
 I didn't know FreeBSD until this need, and now I'm fascinated with the stuff
 I've been reading about it.
 I have 2 servers with the following SW/HW:

 Server 1:
 Postgres 9
 HSQLDB (Java)
 2 cpu 5620 / 48 GB RAM

 Server 2:
 Coldfusion 9 and other java applications
 2 cpu 5620 / 24 GB RAM

 I searched the web about performance and portability for these applications
 on FreeBSD, but I could not find any clear article about my doubts, that's
 why I'm asking for your help.

 Question #1: Is anyone running Coldfusion on FreeBSD? It looks like Adobe
 only supports Red Had and SuSe.

 Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most
 of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB)

 Question #3: I read a lot of old posts saying that the overall performance
 of Postgres under FreeBSD is better than on some Linux distributions. Is
 this still valid for the current versions?

 I appreciate your valuable time for reading this and for helping me.

 Thanks a lot

 Rodrigo
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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

2011-03-07 Thread Michael J. Kearney
The new jre or java executable.. needs the proc filesystem and or the binaries 
may not be what you want. . Ftw

Rodrigo Freitas freitas.rodr...@gmail.com wrote:


Michael
Excuse me, I didn't quite get your answer...

On Monday, March 7, 2011, Michael  J. Kearney mkear...@nvita.org wrote:

 Most .config files use the linux subsystem. . And the jre requires the proc 
 filesystem. .. you dont have to run fbsd atm

 Rodrigo Freitas freitas.rodr...@gmail.com wrote:


 Dear friends,

 I've been studying/researching to understand what is the best OS for my
 production environment.
 I didn't know FreeBSD until this need, and now I'm fascinated with the stuff
 I've been reading about it.
 I have 2 servers with the following SW/HW:

 Server 1:
 Postgres 9
 HSQLDB (Java)
 2 cpu 5620 / 48 GB RAM

 Server 2:
 Coldfusion 9 and other java applications
 2 cpu 5620 / 24 GB RAM

 I searched the web about performance and portability for these applications
 on FreeBSD, but I could not find any clear article about my doubts, that's
 why I'm asking for your help.

 Question #1: Is anyone running Coldfusion on FreeBSD? It looks like Adobe
 only supports Red Had and SuSe.

 Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most
 of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB)

 Question #3: I read a lot of old posts saying that the overall performance
 of Postgres under FreeBSD is better than on some Linux distributions. Is
 this still valid for the current versions?

 I appreciate your valuable time for reading this and for helping me.

 Thanks a lot

 Rodrigo
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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

2011-03-07 Thread Nerius Landys
 Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most
 of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB)

Since I have experience with Java on FreeBSD, I will try to answer
this question.

Java works very well for me under FreeBSD; I have not had a single
problem with Java on FreeBSD.
To install java, you can either install a pre-compiled JDK (called
diablo-jdk) or compile all the JDK sources from scratch using the
ports system.  If you compile yourself from ports, you can choose
either JDK 1.5 or JDK 1.6 (there may even be newer and older JDK
versions that work fine).  I'm running JDK 1.5 compiled from source on
both my servers, and have had no problems in my Java applications.
The dependencies list for 1.6 is a bit more involved, but the
compile/install process is so automated that you won't be bothered
with the amount of work it takes to install a JDK.

So, in a nutshell, Java is very well supported under FreeBSD and you
should consider this to be a non-issue.
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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

2011-03-07 Thread Rodrigo Freitas
Thanks a lot!!

Has anyone successfully installed Coldfusion 9?

On Monday, March 7, 2011, Nerius Landys nlan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most
 of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB)

 Since I have experience with Java on FreeBSD, I will try to answer
 this question.

 Java works very well for me under FreeBSD; I have not had a single
 problem with Java on FreeBSD.
 To install java, you can either install a pre-compiled JDK (called
 diablo-jdk) or compile all the JDK sources from scratch using the
 ports system.  If you compile yourself from ports, you can choose
 either JDK 1.5 or JDK 1.6 (there may even be newer and older JDK
 versions that work fine).  I'm running JDK 1.5 compiled from source on
 both my servers, and have had no problems in my Java applications.
 The dependencies list for 1.6 is a bit more involved, but the
 compile/install process is so automated that you won't be bothered
 with the amount of work it takes to install a JDK.

 So, in a nutshell, Java is very well supported under FreeBSD and you
 should consider this to be a non-issue.

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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

2011-03-07 Thread n j
 Java works very well for me under FreeBSD; I have not had a single
 problem with Java on FreeBSD.
 To install java, you can either install a pre-compiled JDK (called
 diablo-jdk) or compile all the JDK sources from scratch using the
 ports system.  If you compile yourself from ports, you can choose
 either JDK 1.5 or JDK 1.6 (there may even be newer and older JDK
 versions that work fine).  I'm running JDK 1.5 compiled from source on
 both my servers, and have had no problems in my Java applications.
 The dependencies list for 1.6 is a bit more involved, but the
 compile/install process is so automated that you won't be bothered
 with the amount of work it takes to install a JDK.

 So, in a nutshell, Java is very well supported under FreeBSD and you
 should consider this to be a non-issue.

IMHO, building Java on FreeBSD is a pain.

Don't get me wrong, people working on FreeBSD Java project are doing a
*great* job, but it was so much easier to just download the packages
from FreeBSD Foundation thanks to the deal with Sun. I don't know
what's the status of that deal right now, but there are no packages
for 8-RELEASE and the packages themselves weren't updated in a long
while, so I guess the deal's off.

I'm running Java on FreeBSD right now, but I must say I'd probably
stick to Linux nowadays if I had any say, at least until there comes a
day when I'll be able to pkg_add -r openjdk7.

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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

2011-03-07 Thread Mark Felder

On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 12:19:33 -0600, n j nin...@gmail.com wrote:


IMHO, building Java on FreeBSD is a pain.


AFAIK, Sun/Oracle doesn't provide precompiled OpenJDK for anyone, really.  
Even OSX now has to build their own. If it's precompiled it's probably not  
OpenJDK.



Regards,


Mark
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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

2011-03-07 Thread b. f.
...
 I'm running Java on FreeBSD right now, but I must say I'd probably
 stick to Linux nowadays if I had any say, at least until there comes a
 day when I'll be able to pkg_add -r openjdk7.
...

Why not now? (Or anytime this past year or more?):

http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/java/openjdk-7.0.86.tbz
http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.2-release/java/openjdk-7.0.122.tbz
http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-stable/java/openjdk-7.0.122_1.tbz

http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8.1-release/java/openjdk-7.0.86.tbz
http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release/java/openjdk-7.0.122.tbz
http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8-stable/java/openjdk-7.0.122_1.tbz

etc.

b.
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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

2011-03-07 Thread n j
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:13 AM, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Why not now? (Or anytime this past year or more?):

Hmm, good point :-).

I was misled by the ports page (e.g.
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=openjdkstype=all) which
used to have a different entry if a port had a package, i.e.:

openjdk-7.0.122_1
Java Development Kit 7
Long description : Sources : Changes : Download

vs.

openoffice.org-2.1.0
Integrated wordprocessor/dbase/spreadsheet/drawing/chart/browser
Long description | Package | Sources | Main Web Site

In any way, I stand corrected. I should probably start testdriving
OpenJDK to see if it can successfully replace diablo-jdk.

Regards,
-- 
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Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

2010-08-13 Thread Antonio Vieiro

Hi all,

Now that OpenSolaris is dead [1] I was wondering what the status of Java 
is in FreeBSD.


I'm currently using OpenJDK16 from ports. Is OpenJDK free from Oracle 
hands or not? Would it be possible it dissappearing from the ports 
because of licensing/patent issues? If so, what are the open-source 
alternatives?


Thanks,
Antonio

[1] http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html
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Re: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

2010-08-13 Thread nux

Antonio Vieiro writes:


Hi all,

Now that OpenSolaris is dead [1] I was wondering what the status of Java 
is in FreeBSD.


But there is hope: 
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Illumos-launched-as-OpenSolaris-deriv 
ative-1050151.html




I'm currently using OpenJDK16 from ports. Is OpenJDK free from Oracle 
hands or not? Would it be possible it dissappearing from the ports 
because of licensing/patent issues? If so, what are the open-source 
alternatives?


Thanks,
Antonio

[1] http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html
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Re: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

2010-08-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:59:20PM +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Now that OpenSolaris is dead [1] I was wondering what the status of Java 
 is in FreeBSD.
 [1] http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html

IMO the status of Java is best to avoid it. Just ask Google. :-)

 I'm currently using OpenJDK16 from ports. Is OpenJDK free from Oracle 
 hands or not?

Depends what you mean by free. It's under the GPLv2, so I think you should be
good wrt copyrights. 

Patents might be different matter, though! To the best of my knowledge, the EU
law doesn't allow patenting software. But if you really want to know where you
stand you should consult a lawyer who knows Spanish and EU patent law.

People in the US could very well be screwed, however. OTOH, Oracle's lawsuit
against Google over Android could potentially lead to the patents asserted in
that case being found invalid.

Roland
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Re: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

2010-08-13 Thread Antonio Vieiro

On 13/08/2010 20:57, Roland Smith wrote:

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:59:20PM +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote:



I'm currently using OpenJDK16 from ports. Is OpenJDK free from Oracle
hands or not?


Depends what you mean by free. It's under the GPLv2, so I think you should be
good wrt copyrights.


I think that the Diablo JVM has Sun source code [1], and this is 
released under a partner agreement or something, so I imagine Oracle 
could shut it down as well, right?


OpenJDK is under GPLV2, but I'm not sure it covers the whole JVM. I'll 
try to find out.


Thanks,
Antonio

[1] http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml



Patents might be different matter, though! To the best of my knowledge, the EU
law doesn't allow patenting software. But if you really want to know where you
stand you should consult a lawyer who knows Spanish and EU patent law.

People in the US could very well be screwed, however. OTOH, Oracle's lawsuit
against Google over Android could potentially lead to the patents asserted in
that case being found invalid

Roland


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Re: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

2010-08-13 Thread Kurt Buff
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:57, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:59:20PM +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote:
 Hi all,

 Now that OpenSolaris is dead [1] I was wondering what the status of Java
 is in FreeBSD.
 [1] http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html

 IMO the status of Java is best to avoid it. Just ask Google. :-)

So, what do you suggest for SSL VPN clients? Some/most/all of the
clients for these things are Java-based - well, except for clients
running Windows and for which there is (usually) an ActiveX control
(shudder.)

That's just the most interesting one to me, but OOo also relies on
Java for some functionality (thought that's somewhat a Sun/Oracle
effort too, and one wonders about its fate also) and there are other
applications for which Java is a critical component.

Kurt
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Re: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

2010-08-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:58:01PM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:57, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
  On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:59:20PM +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Now that OpenSolaris is dead [1] I was wondering what the status of Java
  is in FreeBSD.
  [1] http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html
 
  IMO the status of Java is best to avoid it. Just ask Google. :-)
 
 So, what do you suggest for SSL VPN clients? Some/most/all of the
 clients for these things are Java-based - well, except for clients
 running Windows and for which there is (usually) an ActiveX control
 (shudder.)

If I read [2] correctly, isn't SSL VPN supposed to be clientless and work
through the browser?

[2]: http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/VPN-Options.html

 That's just the most interesting one to me, but OOo also relies on
 Java for some functionality (thought that's somewhat a Sun/Oracle
 effort too, and one wonders about its fate also) and there are other
 applications for which Java is a critical component.

According to [3], some OpenOffice functionality depends on Java, but it can be
built without it. I hacked the OOO (2.x IIRC) port to that effect once, but I
deleted it since I didn't use it much. Personally I prefer Emacs, LaTeX and
assorted scripting languages. :-)

[3]: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Java_and_OpenOffice.org

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Re: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

2010-08-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:57:08PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:59:20PM +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  Now that OpenSolaris is dead [1] I was wondering what the status of Java 
  is in FreeBSD.
  [1] http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html
 
 IMO the status of Java is best to avoid it. Just ask Google. :-)
 
  I'm currently using OpenJDK16 from ports. Is OpenJDK free from Oracle 
  hands or not?
 
 Depends what you mean by free. It's under the GPLv2, so I think you should be
 good wrt copyrights. 
 
 Patents might be different matter, though! To the best of my knowledge, the EU
 law doesn't allow patenting software. But if you really want to know where you
 stand you should consult a lawyer who knows Spanish and EU patent law.
 
 People in the US could very well be screwed, however. OTOH, Oracle's lawsuit
 against Google over Android could potentially lead to the patents asserted in
 that case being found invalid.

y're right on your last paragraph.  i think/hope that oracle's fist
fight leads to their quicker bankruptcy... to which they've been
headed for quite some time.  
 
 Roland
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RE: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

2010-08-13 Thread Mikhail
 -Original Message-
 From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Roland Smith
 Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 12:50 AM
 To: Kurt Buff
 Cc: FreeBSD Questions
 Subject: Re: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)
 
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:58:01PM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote:
  On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:57, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
   On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:59:20PM +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   Now that OpenSolaris is dead [1] I was wondering what the status of
 Java
   is in FreeBSD.
   [1] http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html
  
   IMO the status of Java is best to avoid it. Just ask Google. :-)
 
  So, what do you suggest for SSL VPN clients? Some/most/all of the
  clients for these things are Java-based - well, except for clients
  running Windows and for which there is (usually) an ActiveX control
  (shudder.)
 
 If I read [2] correctly, isn't SSL VPN supposed to be clientless and work
 through the browser?
 
 [2]: http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/VPN-Options.html

Yeah, but when you want to launch any application through WebVPN (telnet for
example) you have to start Java applet.

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Re: Java and FreeBSD

2008-11-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 11:28:10AM -0800, mdh wrote:
 
 My advice is to install the following ports in the following order:  
 
 java/jdk16
 java/eclipse-devel

Does licensing BS still require out-of-band agreement to EULAs on the Sun
website in 7.x, or has that finally changed for the better?

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Java and FreeBSD

2008-11-03 Thread Spiros Papadopoulos
Hi,

It is now more than eight months that i am not able to use FreeBSD. FreeBSD

version 6.1 was the last.

Back then trying to work with Eclipse and java on FreeBSD was quite tricky.

Can anyone please tell me what the current status is? For example can i use

ports to install everything and start working with Eclipse straight away...?
Or

is Linux a better option?

What versions of FreeBSD and Eclipse would you recommend? Please feel free

to provide with as much information as you want.

Thanks in advance
Spiros P.
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Re: Java and FreeBSD

2008-11-03 Thread mdh
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Spiros Papadopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Spiros Papadopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Java and FreeBSD
 To: freebsd mailing list freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 1:26 PM
 Hi,
 
 It is now more than eight months that i am not able to use
 FreeBSD. FreeBSD
 
 version 6.1 was the last.
 
 Back then trying to work with Eclipse and java on FreeBSD
 was quite tricky.
 
 Can anyone please tell me what the current status is? For
 example can i use
 
 ports to install everything and start working with Eclipse
 straight away...?
 Or
 
 is Linux a better option?
 
 What versions of FreeBSD and Eclipse would you recommend?
 Please feel free
 
 to provide with as much information as you want.

My advice is to install the following ports in the following order:  

java/jdk16
java/eclipse-devel

eclipse-devel worked much better for me than did java/eclipse.  I also had 
trouble without getting jdk16 installed first.  It's been a while now, so I'm 
not exactly sure what all, but I think if you install those ports in that 
order, Eclipse will work for you.  You may also want to make a symlink from 
/usr/local/eclipse to /usr/local/eclipse-devel - this allows the Eclipse plugin 
ports to install properly.  Without it, they will not.  I've got several (Perl, 
Ruby, and a couple of others) installed from ports against eclipse-devel and 
they work fine once that symlink is in place.  

- mdh



  
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Re: OEM and Trademark license for Java on FreeBSD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] no longer valid?

2007-10-25 Thread Antony Mawer

On 25/10/2007 2:41 PM, Pj Malloy wrote:

Any help would be MUCH appreciated.

I have some questions regarding the OEM and Trademark license for Java on 
FreeBSD.  I initially sent my email inquiry to  [EMAIL PROTECTED], as stated in 
the FreeBSD Foundation Java Download page
   (http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml), but  that [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] email address does not appear to be valid --  the email I sent to 
that address bounced.

The [EMAIL PROTECTED] email  address is specifically called out in Diablo 
FreeBSD OEM Java license that is  listed here:
   
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/cgi-bin/download?download=oem/diablo-jdk-freebsd5.i386.1.5.0.07.01.tbz


That license text states we (a) must obtain a Trademark License from Sun, and 
depending on the exact field of use, we (b) might need to get a commercial 
license from Sun.  That license text directs me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get 
more information for both (a) and (b). That email address doesn't work, so now 
I'm wondering what to do next...  I called Sun Sales, but they did not know 
what I was talking about...


I too would love to know the answer to this -- the way Sun carry on, 
anyone would think they don't want people using their language... I am 
sure Microsoft don't make you jump through hoops if you want to write 
and distribute applications written in .NET and want to distribute the 
run-time along with it -- so why must Sun make it so hard for people to 
do that with Java?


--Antony
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Re: OEM and Trademark license for Java on FreeBSD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] no longer valid?

2007-10-25 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman


 I too would love to know the answer to this -- the way Sun carry on,
 anyone would think they don't want people using their language... I am
 sure Microsoft don't make you jump through hoops if you want to write
 and distribute applications written in .NET and want to distribute the
 run-time along with it -- so why must Sun make it so hard for people
 to do that with Java?
At times if I didn't know better I would swear that sun was doing it's
best to destroy it's own language (long term tax write off?)... even
though I love Java and started a small software company to make
developer tools for it some of the things Sun drive me *(*(*( nuts...
Here is the short list:

1. Complete refusal to allow for non-JVM compilation targets

2. Deprecating classes and methods for no apparent reason or explanation
 
3. Not making the complete implementation open (perhaps look but don't
touch or give out) source

4. Making some really stupid security and/or low level OS access
assumptions (see the series of threads recursively started by
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/8e85eedca489d240/3ef23e684fe42fb0#3ef23e684fe42fb0)

5. Completely dropping the ball marketing wise

-- 
Aryeh M. Friedman
FloSoft Systems
Developer, not Business, Friendly
http://www.flosoft-systems.com

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Re: OEM and Trademark license for Java on FreeBSD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] no longer valid?

2007-10-25 Thread cpghost
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:54:34 -0400
Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I too would love to know the answer to this -- the way Sun carry on,
  anyone would think they don't want people using their language... I
  am sure Microsoft don't make you jump through hoops if you want to
  write and distribute applications written in .NET and want to
  distribute the run-time along with it -- so why must Sun make it so
  hard for people to do that with Java?

 At times if I didn't know better I would swear that sun was doing it's
 best to destroy it's own language (long term tax write off?)... even
 though I love Java and started a small software company to make
 developer tools for it some of the things Sun drive me
 *(*(*( nuts... Here is the short list:

Well, I gave up on Java and switched to a combination of Python
and C/C++ for many reasons, most of them pertaining to Java, the
language itself and its libraries. Licensing issues and all those
hoops Sun made and still makes us FreeBSD users jump through were
the least of my concerns, because they were essentially one-time
only and though annoying, still bearable.

The problem, or opportunity, is that there's so much legacy code
in Java, just waiting to be ported, and though SWIG has its uses
in the transition process, ultimately java2python (not jython,
that's the other way around) would be great, but it's not there
yet by any means...

-cpghost.

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OEM and Trademark license for Java on FreeBSD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] no longer valid?

2007-10-24 Thread Pj Malloy
Hello,

Short version
---
Does anyone know to what email address at Sun I should send my questions 
regarding the Diablo FreeBSD JRE?

Longer version
---
Any help would be MUCH appreciated.

I have some questions regarding the OEM and Trademark license for Java on 
FreeBSD.  I initially sent my email inquiry to  [EMAIL PROTECTED], as stated in 
the FreeBSD Foundation Java Download page
   (http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml), but  that [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] email address does not appear to be valid --  the email I sent to 
that address bounced.

The [EMAIL PROTECTED] email  address is specifically called out in Diablo 
FreeBSD OEM Java license that is  listed here:
   
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/cgi-bin/download?download=oem/diablo-jdk-freebsd5.i386.1.5.0.07.01.tbz


That license text states we (a) must obtain a Trademark License from Sun, and 
depending on the exact field of use, we (b) might need to get a commercial 
license from Sun.  That license text directs me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get 
more information for both (a) and (b). That email address doesn't work, so now 
I'm wondering what to do next...  I called Sun Sales, but they did not know 
what I was talking about...

 Best regards,
PJ



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Re: Having Some Trouble with Java on FreeBSD

2005-10-28 Thread N Deepak
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 02:06:16PM -0600, Franklin E. Powers, Jr. wrote:
 
 So I tinkered with that a bit and I discovered that the almost 
 complete native build for FreeBSD could run.  So I decided to try to 
 finish the build process, by getting it to build itself.  But it 
 suffered a slightly different error.
 
 So...  Then I went through the documentation for FreeBSD some more 
 and decided to start over by reinstalling the Linux Java using:
   cd /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk15
   make install clean
 
 But now I get the following error: linux-sun-jdk-1.5.0.01,2 does not 
 run (core dumps: Bad System Call).  Note that previously I manually 
 installed it by simply downloading the Linux version on another 
 computer, transfering it over to the computer, and executing the file.
 
Try with /usr/ports/java/jdk14 (native JDK 1.4 for FreeBSD).  It worked
for me.  I am running FreeBSD 5.4 STABLE.

Regards,
Deepak

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Re: Having Some Trouble with Java on FreeBSD

2005-10-21 Thread Olaf Greve

Hi,

O.k., people please correct me if I'm wrong but...

I've been having a small amount of trouble with running Java on FreeBSD 
(version 5.4 for amd64) and I was hoping that someone would be kind 
enough to help me out.


I manually installed the linux version of Java.  Which seemed to work 
alright


[...]

So...  Then I went through the documentation for FreeBSD some more and 
decided to start over by reinstalling the Linux Java using:

cd /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk15
make install clean

But now I get the following error: linux-sun-jdk-1.5.0.01,2 does not run 
(core dumps: Bad System Call).  Note that previously I manually 
installed it by simply downloading the Linux version on another 
computer, transfering it over to the computer, and executing the file.


I *think* I've heard/read that the AMD64 version of FreeBSD doesn't 
feature 'Linux compatibility'. Perhaps that's where your issues come 
from. No idea why a binary distribution of a Linux version would have 
worked, but perhaps that was just coincidence?!?


Either way, please don't come down too hard on me if I'm way off base 
here; as the above is purely based on hearsay and my own speculation...


Cheers!
Olafo
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Having Some Trouble with Java on FreeBSD

2005-10-20 Thread Franklin E. Powers, Jr.
I've been having a small amount of trouble with running Java on 
FreeBSD (version 5.4 for amd64) and I was hoping that someone would 
be kind enough to help me out.


I manually installed the linux version of Java.  Which seemed to work 
alright and then I was trying to build the native version using Sun's 
sources and the patch.  And that seemed to go well, except for one 
small problem, which was that the hotspot compiler seemed to have 
trouble finding its stack frame and it outputted a warning to 
standard output, which ended up in some of the files that were 
produced during the build process.  Anyway...  I took care of that, 
but then it appears that near the end of the build process, Java 
suffered an internal error of some kind.


So I tinkered with that a bit and I discovered that the almost 
complete native build for FreeBSD could run.  So I decided to try to 
finish the build process, by getting it to build itself.  But it 
suffered a slightly different error.


So...  Then I went through the documentation for FreeBSD some more 
and decided to start over by reinstalling the Linux Java using:

cd /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk15
make install clean

But now I get the following error: linux-sun-jdk-1.5.0.01,2 does not 
run (core dumps: Bad System Call).  Note that previously I manually 
installed it by simply downloading the Linux version on another 
computer, transfering it over to the computer, and executing the file.


BTW...  The computer is not connected to the internet.  And in case 
it makes any difference, its a 64-bit dual processor Xeon.


The problem should probably be obvious to me.  But its not and as a 
result, I would be grateful for assistance.




Thanks in advance,
Franklin E. Powers, Jr.


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Re: Native POSIX threads + Java under FreeBSD 5.3 release i386

2005-03-11 Thread Olaf Greve
Dear Dan,
Thanks for your answer!
A follow-up:
Why would they require an OS-specific threads library, instead of
simply requiring Posix threads?  I can tell you right now that Solaris
doesn't support NPTL, just the same way Linux doesn't support Solaris's
thread library :)
Interesting. The people who wrote the software told me that they used to 
have a version that worked well with the Linux 2.4 kernel threads 
version. Then, they said they had improved their software, and that it's 
based around the threading system as it is present in the Linux 2.6 
kernel. They did indeed mention that we require Posix threads, so I 
guess they mean to say that we require Posix threads (rather than 
relying on a Linux 2.6 kernel perse).

If you have limited time, I'd say just use either Solaris 10 or Linux. 
If you have problems on FreeBSD, they won't help you.
Yes, I just called the client, and he strongly recommended simply 
looking for a Debian-9 or SuSe-9 system. I think I'll simply try that...

I'm looking somewhat into the support for NPTL under FreeBSD 5.3
release i386, and I have come across the following URL:
http://www.unobvious.com/bsd/freebsd-threads.html From this, it
sounds like the LinuxThreads (i.e.
/usr/ports/devel/linuxthreads) should do the trick.

That page is 2 years old, and even says right in the middle, before
comparing libc_r and linuxthreads:
   WARNING: The rest of this document does not describe thread support
   in FreeBSD 5.x . You have been warned.
:)
I think I didn't express myself the way I meant to (sorry for that). 
Basically what I meant to write was that from the document I gathered 
that the /usr/ports/devel/linuxthreads port is what should be used. But 
indeed upon re-reading my own text, it suggests that I had gathered from 
the document that that would work under versions 5.x as well (which was 
 not what I meant to imply). Anyway, your following answer basically 
answers what I wanted to know:

Can anyone tell me something about the following:
1) Does the linuxthreads library provide 100% NPTL support, as under Linux?
Linuxthreads is the Linux 2.4 and below threads package.  NPTL is the
name for the threads implementation in Linux 2.6 kernels.  As far as I
know, linuxthreads and NPTL are relatively ABI-compatible.
From this, I gather the linuxthreads port will not give me the 
threading system as used in the Linux 2.6 kernel then...

O.k., I think I know enough for now: I'll first try having a go at Red 
Hat or SuSe then

Thanks again, and cheers!
Olafo
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Native POSIX threads + Java under FreeBSD 5.3 release i386

2005-03-10 Thread Olaf Greve
Hi all,
As is typical, I have once again been given very limited time to get 
something running, and there are some interesting things to figure about 
about it. :)

In brief, the application is a distributed one, loosely based on some 
CORBA concepts, though differently (fortunately!). The supported 
programming languages are C/C++/Java/Ada, of which Java will probably be 
the one we would like to use.

Now, the issue is (or may be), that the recommended (and only tested) 
platforms are Solaris and Linux (particularly Red Hat and SuSe - kernel 
versions 9). The apparent reason for this, is that the platform requires 
the NPTL (Native Posix Threads Library).

I'm looking somewhat into the support for NPTL under FreeBSD 5.3 release 
i386, and I have come across the following URL:
http://www.unobvious.com/bsd/freebsd-threads.html
From this, it sounds like the LinuxThreads (i.e. 
/usr/ports/devel/linuxthreads) should do the trick.

However, I have no experience with these threads and I wonder whether it 
is a good idea to try to get the platform working under FreeBSD (my 
favourite Unix), or whether it may be better to install Red Hat or SuSe 
this once. :)

Can anyone tell me something about the following:
1) Does the linuxthreads library provide 100% NPTL support, as under Linux?
2) Does usage of the library incur a kernel recompilation, or will all 
scripts of the platform have to be changed such that the linuxthreads 
library is linked in?
3) A different question: what is the best JDK 1.4.x port to install, and 
does one of those perhaps have support for NPTL?

I hope anyone can help me out a bit with this, even if it only is about 
whether to make the best choice between figuring out how to get this 
platform going under FreeBSD (being the Unix with which most experience 
I have), or whether to try to go Linux and have a -perhaps- more 
straightforward installation of the platform (at the expense of not 
knowing the particular intricacies of those Linuxes).

Help/opinions are very much appreciated. :)
Cheers!
Olafo
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Re: Native POSIX threads + Java under FreeBSD 5.3 release i386

2005-03-10 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 10), Olaf Greve said:
 As is typical, I have once again been given very limited time to get
 something running, and there are some interesting things to figure
 about about it. :)
 
 In brief, the application is a distributed one, loosely based on some
 CORBA concepts, though differently (fortunately!). The supported
 programming languages are C/C++/Java/Ada, of which Java will probably
 be the one we would like to use.
 
 Now, the issue is (or may be), that the recommended (and only tested)
 platforms are Solaris and Linux (particularly Red Hat and SuSe -
 kernel versions 9). The apparent reason for this, is that the
 platform requires the NPTL (Native Posix Threads Library).

Why would they require an OS-specific threads library, instead of
simply requiring Posix threads?  I can tell you right now that Solaris
doesn't support NPTL, just the same way Linux doesn't support Solaris's
thread library :)

If you have limited time, I'd say just use either Solaris 10 or Linux. 
If you have problems on FreeBSD, they won't help you.  If it was a
longer-term project where you had time to resolve problems yourself,
I'd say spend the time to get it working on FreeBSD.

 I'm looking somewhat into the support for NPTL under FreeBSD 5.3
 release i386, and I have come across the following URL:
 http://www.unobvious.com/bsd/freebsd-threads.html From this, it
 sounds like the LinuxThreads (i.e.
 /usr/ports/devel/linuxthreads) should do the trick.

That page is 2 years old, and even says right in the middle, before
comparing libc_r and linuxthreads:

   WARNING: The rest of this document does not describe thread support
   in FreeBSD 5.x . You have been warned.

 However, I have no experience with these threads and I wonder whether it 
 is a good idea to try to get the platform working under FreeBSD (my 
 favourite Unix), or whether it may be better to install Red Hat or SuSe 
 this once. :)
 
 Can anyone tell me something about the following:
 1) Does the linuxthreads library provide 100% NPTL support, as under Linux?

Linuxthreads is the Linux 2.4 and below threads package.  NPTL is the
name for the threads implementation in Linux 2.6 kernels.  As far as I
know, linuxthreads and NPTL are relatively ABI-compatible.

 2) Does usage of the library incur a kernel recompilation, or will all 
 scripts of the platform have to be changed such that the linuxthreads 
 library is linked in?

The kernel don't come into the equation.  If you want to use
Linuxthreads with an existing threaded application, you will need to
recompile (take a look at one of the mysql ports to see how to
configure a program for linuxthreads).  All the native FreeBSD threads
libraries (libpthread, libthr, libc_r) are ABI-compatible with each
other (so you can switch between them via libmap.conf) but not with
Linuxthreads.

 3) A different question: what is the best JDK 1.4.x port to install,
 and does one of those perhaps have support for NPTL?

The native one (ports/java/jdk14), and no.
 
 I hope anyone can help me out a bit with this, even if it only is
 about whether to make the best choice between figuring out how to get
 this platform going under FreeBSD (being the Unix with which most
 experience I have), or whether to try to go Linux and have a
 -perhaps- more straightforward installation of the platform (at the
 expense of not knowing the particular intricacies of those Linuxes).
 
 Help/opinions are very much appreciated. :)

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Re: Java on FreeBSD

2003-09-27 Thread Khairil Yusof
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 03:01, Kai Grossjohann wrote:

 Maybe it's the wrong way to get Java on a FreeBSD system?
 Or, even more likely, I did something stupid.

CC_VER = gcc (GCC) 3.3.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software 

You're running FreeBSD5.1-CURRENT which is using gcc 3.3.1 which has
issues with compiling jdk14.

Patchset 4 is supposed to be out soon (around 4.9 release I think) and
this is supposed to fix this problem as well as add applet support.

You can help by trying the experimental (current) patchset and reporting
bugs to java@, especially if you're interested in getting java to run on
current.


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Java on FreeBSD

2003-09-25 Thread Kai Grossjohann
I went to /usr/ports/java/jdk14 and tried to install that thing.  It
produced a number of errors on build.  I ran make twice and here is
the output of the third make.

Maybe it's the wrong way to get Java on a FreeBSD system?
Or, even more likely, I did something stupid.

Kai


===  Building for jdk-1.4.1p3_3
# Start of jdk build
bsd i586 1.4.1-p3 build started: 03-09-25 20:58
gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/j2se/make'
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/j2se/make'
if [ -r ./../../patch/make/Makefile ]; then \
  ( cd  ./../../patch/make; gmake sanity MAKEFLAGS= EXTERNALSANITYCONTROL=true 
CONTROL_TOPDIR=/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control CONTROL_TOPDIR_NAME=control 
ALT_J2SE_TOPDIR=./../../j2se 
ALT_OUTPUTDIR=/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/build/bsd-i586 ALT_RTPATCH_DIR= 
ALT_BASE_IMAGE_ZIP= ALT_BASE_IMAGE_DIR= ALT_NEW_IMAGE_DIR= ; ); \
fi

Build Machine Information:
   build machine = 

Build Directory Structure:
   CWD = /usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/make
   TOPDIR = ./../..
   CONTROL_TOPDIR = ./../../control
   GENERICS_TOPDIR = ./../../generics
   HOTSPOT_TOPDIR = ./../../hotspot
   J2SE_TOPDIR = ./../../j2se
   MOTIF_TOPDIR = ./../../motif
   COBUNDLE_TOPDIR = ./../../cobundle

Hotspot Settings:
   HOTSPOT_BUILD_JOBS = 

Bootstrap Settings:
   BOOTDIR = /usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2_01 
   BOOTSTRAP J2SDK VERSION: 1.4.2_01
   OUTPUTDIR = /usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/build/bsd-i586 

Build Tool Settings:
   UNIXCOMMAND_PATH = /bin/ 
   COMPILER_PATH = /usr/bin/ 
   DEVTOOLS_PATH = /usr/local/bin/ 
   USRBIN_PATH = /usr/bin/ 
   MOTIF_DIR = /usr/X11R6 
   CC_VER = gcc (GCC) 3.3.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, 
Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO 
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. 
   PATH = /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin 

Build Directives:
   USE_ONLY_BOOTDIR_TOOLS =  
   USE_HOTSPOT_INTERPRETER_MODE =  
   PEDANTIC =  
   DEV_ONLY =  
   J2RE_ONLY =  
   NO_DOCS = YES 
   NO_IMAGES =  
   TOOLS_ONLY = true 
   INSANE =  

Build Platform Settings:
   PLATFORM = bsd 
   ARCH = i586 
   LIBARCH = i386 
   ARCH_FAMILY = i586 
   ARCH_DATA_MODEL = 32 
   OS_VERSION = 5.1-CURRENT 
   TRUE_PLATFORM = FreeBSD (5.x CURRENT way)
   FREE_SPACE = 3899148 

GNU Make Settings:
   MAKE = gmake 
   MAKE VERSION =  
   MAKECMDGOALS = sanity 
   MAKEFLAGS =  
   SHELL = /bin/sh 

Target Build Versions:
   JDK_VERSION = 1.4.1 
   MILESTONE = p3 
   BUILD_NUMBER = root_25_sep_2003_20_58 
   BUNDLE_DATE = 25_sep_2003 

External File/Binary Locations:
   HOTSPOT_SERVER_PATH = 
/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/build/bsd-i586/hotspot-i586/server 
   HOTSPOT_CLIENT_PATH = 
/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/build/bsd-i586/hotspot-i586/client 
   OPT_JAVAWS = 
/java/re/javaws/1.2/promoted/pit_tested/bundles/javaws-1_2-bsd-i586-i.zip 
   MOZILLA_PATH = /java/devtools 
   MOZILLA_HEADERS_PATH = /java/devtools/share/plugin 
   MOZILLA_LIBS_PATH = /java/devtools/bsd/plugin 
   MOTIF_DIR = /usr/X11R6 
   CACERTS_FILE = ./../src/share/lib/security/cacerts 

WARNING: Your build environment has the variable NO_DOCS
 defined. This will result in a development-only
 build of the J2SE workspace, lacking the documentation
 build.
 
WARNING: You do not have access to the Java Web Start binary. 
 These binaries may be optional for this build. Please 
 check your access to 
 /java/re/javaws/1.2/promoted/pit_tested/bundles/javaws-1_2-bsd-i586-i.zip 
 and/or check your value of ALT_JAVAWS_PATH. 
 This will make your images target build incomplete. 
 
Sanity check passed.
(cd  ./../build/bsd-i586/hotspot-i586/tmp; \
  gmake -f /usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/hotspot/build/bsd/Makefile product \
HOTSPOT_BUILD_VERSION=1.4.1-p3-root_25_sep_2003_20_58  
GAMMADIR=/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/hotspot ; )
gmake[1]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/build/bsd-i586/hotspot-i586/tmp'
(cd bsd_i486_compiler2/product; gmake)
gmake[2]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/build/bsd-i586/hotspot-i586/tmp/bsd_i486_compiler2/product'
gmake[3]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/build/bsd-i586/hotspot-i586/tmp/bsd_i486_compiler2/product'
Rescanned ../generated/adfiles/bsd_i486.ad  but encountered no changes.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/build/bsd-i586/hotspot-i586/tmp/bsd_i486_compiler2/product'
gmake[3]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/build/bsd-i586/hotspot-i586/tmp/bsd_i486_compiler2/product'
Compiling /usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/prims/jni.cpp
/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/prims/jni.cpp:929:50: pasting . and 
i does not give a valid preprocessing token
/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/hotspot/src/share/vm/prims/jni.cpp:929

Java on FreeBSD

2003-09-25 Thread Robert Huff

Kai Grossjohann writes:

  I went to /usr/ports/java/jdk14 and tried to install that thing.  It
  produced a number of errors on build.  I ran make twice and here is
  the output of the third make.
  
  Maybe it's the wrong way to get Java on a FreeBSD system?
  Or, even more likely, I did something stupid.

I can't build it either (on 5.1), but I'm getting different
symptoms.
I have linux compatibility; I have linprocfs mounted.  I run
make and get:

===   jdk-nodebug-1.4.1p3_3 depends on executable: gm4 - found
===   jdk-nodebug-1.4.1p3_3 depends on executable: zip - found
===   jdk-nodebug-1.4.1p3_3 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so - found
===   jdk-nodebug-1.4.1p3_3 depends on file: 
/usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2_01/bin/javac - found
===   jdk-nodebug-1.4.1p3_3 depends on executable: gmake - found
===  Configuring for jdk-nodebug-1.4.1p3_3
===  Building for jdk-nodebug-1.4.1p3_3
# Start of jdk build
bsd i586 1.4.1-p3 build started: 03-09-21 13:04

... and there it hangs, for 16+ hours on my P$/2/2ghx.  top
shows two (linux) java processes running.
This is not right.  I mailed the maintainer, and got no
response.  Doesn anyone here have a clue as to what's broken?


Robert Huff



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Re: Java on FreeBSD

2003-09-25 Thread Dragoncrest

  Maybe it's the wrong way to get Java on a FreeBSD system?
  Or, even more likely, I did something stupid.
I can't build it either (on 5.1), but I'm getting different
symptoms.
Actually, the only one I've gotten to build, install, and run 
correctly is the 1.3 version.  I have yet to get 1.4 to even build.

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Re: Java on FreeBSD

2003-09-25 Thread Erick Smith
I actually got 1.4 to build a while ago, I'm not sure if it does now.  Bear in 
mind though, 1.4 is considered alpha AFAIK.  I couldn't get my java stuff to 
execute properly, so I'm back on the linux-sun version :(


On Thursday 25 September 2003 09:07 pm, Dragoncrest wrote:
Maybe it's the wrong way to get Java on a FreeBSD system?
Or, even more likely, I did something stupid.
 
  I can't build it either (on 5.1), but I'm getting different
 symptoms.

  Actually, the only one I've gotten to build, install, and run
 correctly is the 1.3 version.  I have yet to get 1.4 to even build.

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help installing sun java on freebsd -5.1

2003-06-16 Thread sweetleaf

I am running netscape v.7.0.2 that i d/l from netscape.com under the linux emulation 
on freebsd-5.1. I would like to use the chat features a yahoo and be able to do online 
banking which requires java. Netscape redirected me to suns page to d/l the java below:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/install-s1s4-linux.html

I am trying to follow the install instruction but i keep getting the error this binary 
is not executable. As mentioned above i am following their instructions:

3. ype: chmod 777 j2sdk-1_4_1_02-s1studio_ce-4u1-bin-linux.bin to change permissions 
on that file to allow execution.

Run the installer.

1. Type the following command from the directory where you placed the installation 
file:

j2sdk-1_4_1_02-s1studio_ce-4u1-bin-linux.bin



i have also tried chmod a+x but the same results.

Thanks in advance.

ps:

 I would also like to install realplayer 8. again netscape sent me to realplayer.com 
to d/l the linux distro. its a rpm format so i installed rpm from the linux section on 
ftp.freebsd.org. rpm -i realplayer.rpm gives a bunch of lib dependency issues. Is 
their a special package from the linux emulation section that i need to install?


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Java on FreeBSD?

2003-02-28 Thread Sam Post
Hello,

I've been trying to get Matlab to work on FreeBSD for a few days now, but I'm not sure 
if the error is in the FreeBSD implementation of Java or in Matlab itself. Matlab is 
technically not supposed to run on FreeBSD but I've been to websites where people 
claim they have it running via Linux compatibility libraries (linuxcompat)

I guess I really have two questions: 1) does Java work on FreeBSD (and how), 2) does 
Matlab work on FreeBSD (and how?)

Any information you have would be worth it's weight in gold (fortunately for my 
pocketbook, information is pretty light!) so thanks in advance!

I've attached some error reports, maybe they'll be useful...

Sam Post

Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x29e0f953
Function name=parse_constant_pool_string_entry__15ClassFileParserG18constantPoolHandlei
Library=/home/matlab/sys/java/jre/glnx86/jre/lib/i386/server/libjvm.so

Current Java thread:
at sun.awt.motif.MToolkit.createPopupMenu(MToolkit.java:187)
at java.awt.PopupMenu.addNotify(PopupMenu.java:78)
at java.awt.Component.addNotify(Component.java:4041)
at java.awt.Container.addNotify(Container.java:1572)
at java.awt.Container.addNotify(Container.java:1579)
at java.awt.Container.addNotify(Container.java:1579)
at java.awt.Container.addImpl(Container.java:374)
at java.awt.Container.add(Container.java:267)
at com.mathworks.ide.desktop.DTContainer.setFirstLayer(DTContainer.java:1244)
at com.mathworks.ide.desktop.DTContainer.dockClientFrame(DTContainer.java:479)
at com.mathworks.ide.desktop.DTContainer.dockClient(DTContainer.java:450)
at com.mathworks.ide.desktop.DTContainer.restoreClient(DTContainer.java:645)
at com.mathworks.ide.desktop.DTClient.doRestore(DTClient.java:789)
at com.mathworks.ide.desktop.DTClient.restore(DTClient.java:765)
at com.mathworks.ide.desktop.MLDesktop.doDefaultDesktop(MLDesktop.java:904)
at com.mathworks.ide.desktop.MLDesktop.setDefaultDesktop(MLDesktop.java:824)
at com.mathworks.ide.desktop.Desktop.createDesktop(Desktop.java:513)
at com.mathworks.ide.desktop.Desktop.access$2(Desktop.java:494)
at 
com.mathworks.ide.desktop.Desktop$AWTDispatchEvent.dispatch(Desktop.java:810)
at com.mathworks.util.QueueEvent$QueueTarget.processEvent(QueueEvent.java:100)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:2593)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:2497)
at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:339)
at 
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:131)
at 
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:98)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:93)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:85)

Dynamic libraries:
Can not get information for pid = 85618

Local Time = Fri Feb 28 10:08:10 2003
Elapsed Time = 12
#
# HotSpot Virtual Machine Error : 11
# Error ID : 4F530E43505002CC
# Please report this error at
# http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (Blackdown-1.3.1-FCS mixed mode)
#
# An error report file has been saved as hs_err_pid85618.log.
# Please refer to the file for further information.
#
Stack Trace:
  [0] libjvm.so:os::abort(long)~(0x35386469, 0x2e383136, 0x00676f6c, 0x755d27d9) + 29 
bytes


Fatal Java Exception detected at Fri Feb 28 10:08:10 2003


Configuration:
  MATLAB Version:   6.5.0.180913a (R13)
  Operating System: Linux 2.4.2 FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #6: Tue Feb 18 16:51:29 MST 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED] i386
  Window System:The XFree86 Project, Inc (4020), display :0.0
  Current Visual:   0x23 (class 4, depth 16)
  Processor ID: x86 Family 6 Model 5 Stepping 2, GenuineIntel
  Virtual Machine:  Java 1.3.1 with Blackdown Java-Linux Team Java HotSpot(TM) Server 
VM
(mixed mode)

Stack Trace:
  [0] libjvm.so:os::abort(long)~(11, 0xbdffc798, 0xbdffc818, 11) + 29 bytes
  [1] 0xbfbfffdb(0x7a383156, 12711, 1179648, 0xa69f)


Fatal Java Exception detected at Fri Feb 28 10:08:13 2003


Configuration:
  MATLAB Version:   6.5.0.180913a (R13)
  Operating System: Linux 2.4.2 FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #6: Tue Feb 18 16:51:29 MST 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED] i386
  Window System:The XFree86 Project, Inc (4020), display :0.0
  Current Visual:   0x23 (class 4, depth 16)
  Processor ID: x86 Family 6 Model 5 Stepping 2, GenuineIntel
  Virtual Machine:  Java 1.3.1 with Blackdown Java-Linux Team Java HotSpot(TM) Server 
VM
(mixed mode)

Java 1.3.1 with Blackdown Java-Linux

Re: Java on FreeBSD?

2003-02-28 Thread Adam
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 12:21, Sam Post wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I've been trying to get Matlab to work on FreeBSD for a few days now, but I'm not 
 sure if the error is in the FreeBSD implementation of Java or in Matlab itself. 
 Matlab is technically not supposed to run on FreeBSD but I've been to websites where 
 people claim they have it running via Linux compatibility libraries (linuxcompat)
 
 I guess I really have two questions: 1) does Java work on FreeBSD (and how), 2) does 
 Matlab work on FreeBSD (and how?)
 
 Any information you have would be worth it's weight in gold (fortunately for my 
 pocketbook, information is pretty light!) so thanks in advance!
 
 I've attached some error reports, maybe they'll be useful...
 
 Sam Post
Matlab will work on FreeBSD (using Linux binary support), but you have
to muck around with the startup scripts to make it believe FreeBSD is a
supported platform. 

As for Java, you obviously have discovered that the native JDK in
FreeBSD 4.x doesn't work very well. My suggestion would be to install
the Linux JDK, and create some fancy symlinks if Matlab doesn't allow
for specifying where the java executable is located.

Hope this helps.

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Native Java in FreeBSD when?

2003-01-23 Thread Craig Calef
FreeBSD Team,
I was excited to hear the announcement of a native FreeBSD
implementation of Sun's JVM.  This would finally let me get rid of Linux
in situations where I need to deploy a Java based solution or have to
worry about the quirks of running under Linux emu or rolling my own from
source.  Unfortunately I haven't seen any news as to when this will be
made available beyond the 'should be available in 4.5 Jan 2002' which
doesn't appear to be the case.  Is Greg still actively developing this, I
haven't seen any announcements of patches past November.  Any information
you could provide me would be wonderful.

Best Wishes,
Craig Calef


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Re: Native Java in FreeBSD when?

2003-01-23 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 07:29:56AM -0800, Craig Calef wrote:
   I was excited to hear the announcement of a native FreeBSD
 implementation of Sun's JVM.  This would finally let me get rid of Linux
 in situations where I need to deploy a Java based solution or have to
 worry about the quirks of running under Linux emu or rolling my own from
 source.  Unfortunately I haven't seen any news as to when this will be
 made available beyond the 'should be available in 4.5 Jan 2002' which
 doesn't appear to be the case.  Is Greg still actively developing this, I
 haven't seen any announcements of patches past November.  Any information
 you could provide me would be wonderful.

It's available right now:

% java -version
java version 1.3.1-p7
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.3.1-p7-root-021102-09:14)
Classic VM (build 1.3.1-p7-root-021102-09:14, green threads, nojit)

However:

i) Sun's licencing terms mean that the FreeBSD project can't
redistribute a pre-compiled (pkg) version of the JDK.  That means
you're going to have to download the source and build it yourself.

ii) Sun's licensing terms mean that you can't just automatically
pull down the source code from an FTP site or a web server: you
have to jump through various hoops and click on various buttons to
agree that you will abide by their terms when you download the
sources.  The Makefile for the java/jdk13 port explains exactly
what to do.

iii) Similarly, you've got to click on various buttons in order to
download a bundle of patches to make the source code compile on
FreeBSD.

iv) To compile the JDK, you need to have a JDK already installed.
By default the jdk13 port will install one of the linux JDKs to
get you going.  Once you've built and installed the native JDK you
can uninstall the linux JDK and use NATIVE_BOOTSTRAP=yes in order
to do further updates.

v) Only jdk-1.3.1 is available as a native version yet.  Efforts
to port jdk-1.4.x are under way: see the freebsd-java@ list if you
would like more info.

I never did understand why the Linuxers could redistribute a
pre-compiled JDK, and the FreeBSD project can't.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Native Java in FreeBSD when?

2003-01-23 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Craig Calef [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I was excited to hear the announcement of a native FreeBSD
 implementation of Sun's JVM.  This would finally let me get rid of Linux
 in situations where I need to deploy a Java based solution or have to
 worry about the quirks of running under Linux emu or rolling my own from
 source.  Unfortunately I haven't seen any news as to when this will be
 made available beyond the 'should be available in 4.5 Jan 2002' which
 doesn't appear to be the case.  Is Greg still actively developing this, I
 haven't seen any announcements of patches past November.  Any information
 you could provide me would be wonderful.

There has been a FreeBSD port for a native JDK since the fall of 2000.

It uses the Linux version to bootstrap itself.

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Re: Java on FreeBSD 4.5

2002-10-22 Thread Kaarthik Sivakumar

 ss == sonam singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ss do u need precompiled binaries of jdk1.3 if
ss successfuly compiled the jdk1.3 on my FreeBSD4.5 

ss regards
ss Sonam Singh
ss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

No, I would prefer to compile it on my own. But thanks. I got another
suggestion, which was to install netscape 7 that comes with all the
java and flash bells and whistles as plugins. I got that and it seems
ok to me. So I would likely continue with that rather than try and
compile all this.

Kaarthik

ss --- Kaarthik Sivakumar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ss wrote:
 Hi
 
 I am trying to set up Java on FreeBSD 4.5. I read
 through:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/java/install.html
 
 But this didnt work for me. I found this:
 
 
ss http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2002/09/05/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=3
 
 from the FreeBSD pages. But this doesnt work either.
 I get compilation
 errors as follows. Whats wrong? What did I do? I
 installed
 www/mozilla-headers also since that seemed to have
 npapi.h but that
 npapi.h was installed into
 /usr/X11R6/include/mozilla/plugin/ and so
 was never discovered. Any help is appreciated. Could
 you please CC me
 as I am not subscribed to this list (yet).
 
 ,
 | gcc -Wall -c -I/usr/local/include -O -D_GNU_SOURCE
 -DXP_UNIX
 | -DVERSION=\1.3. 1-p7-aswini-021003-20:52\
 -DDATE=\Oct-03-2002\
 | -DARCH=\i386\ -DRAPTOR_ API
 -DNEW_STREAMING_API
 | -I../../oji-plugin/include/solaris/navig4/nspr
 -I../../o
 | ji-plugin/include/solaris/navig4/xpcom
 | -I../../oji-plugin/include/solaris/navig4 /caps
 | -I../../oji-plugin/include/solaris/navig4/js
 | -I../../oji-plugin/include/so laris/navig4/raptor
 | -I../../tmp/bsd/i386/CClassHeaders
 | -I../../oji-plugin/include/solaris/navig4/oji
 | -I../../oji-plugin/include/solaris/navig4/plugin
 | -I../../oji-plugin/src/motif/common
 | -I../../oji-plugin/src/motif/navig4
 -I/usr/X11R6/inclu de
 | -I../../oji-plugin/src/motif/badapter
 | -I../../../../src/share/javavm/export
 | -I../../../../src/solaris/javavm/export
 -I/usr/X11R6/include
 | -I../../oji-plugin/ src/share -o
 ../../tmp/bsd/i386/stubs.o
 | ../../oji-plugin/src/motif/common/stubs. c
 | 
 | In file included from
 ../../oji-plugin/src/motif/common/stubs.c:29:
 | /usr/X11R6/include/npapi.h:1: #error
 | /tmp/qt-3.0-reggie-21297/qt/extensions/nsp
 lugin/src/npapi.h must be
 | provided by Netscape
 /usr/X11R6/include/npapi.h:2: #error This file
 | is just a placeholder. Please see the
 documentation
 | /usr/X11R6/include/npapi.h:3: #error to learn how
 to obtain the real
 | file
 | 
 | In file included from
 ../../oji-plugin/src/motif/common/stubs.c:30:
 | /usr/X11R6/include/npupp.h:1: #error
 | /tmp/qt-3.0-reggie-21297/qt/extensions/nsp
 lugin/src/npupp.h must be
 | provided by Netscape
 /usr/X11R6/include/npupp.h:2: #error This file
 | is just a placeholder. Please se e the
 documentation
 | /usr/X11R6/include/npupp.h:3: #error to learn how
 to obtain the real
 | file gmake[1]: *** [../../tmp/bsd/i386/stubs.o]
 Error 1 gmake[1]:
 | Leaving directory
 `/usr/ports/java/jdk13/work/j2sdk1.3.1/ext/plugin/bu
 | ild/solaris' gmake: *** [plugin-all] Error 1
 | *** Error code 2
 | 
 | Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
 | User: 1181.281u Kernel: 270.461u Time: 31:25.82
 CPU: 76.9% (2911k/27674k) 8409+1
 | 315io
 | Exit 1
 | 
 | /usr/X11R6/include/npupp.h:2: #error This file is
 just a placeholder.
 | Please see the documentation
 /usr/X11R6/include/npupp.h:3: #error
 | to learn how to obtain the real file gmake[1]:
 ***
 | [../../tmp/bsd/i386/stubs.o] Error 1 gmake[1]:
 Leaving directory
 |
 `/usr/ports/java/jdk13/work/j2sdk1.3.1/ext/plugin/bu
 ild/solaris'
 | gmake: *** [plugin-all] Error 1
 | *** Error code 2
 | 
 | Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
 | User: 1181.281u Kernel: 270.461u Time: 31:25.82
 CPU: 76.9% (2911k/27674k) 8409+1
 | 315io
 | Exit 1
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Java on FreeBSD 4.5

2002-10-21 Thread Kaarthik Sivakumar
Hi

I am trying to set up Java on FreeBSD 4.5. I read through:

http://www.freebsd.org/java/install.html

But this didnt work for me. I found this:

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2002/09/05/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=3

from the FreeBSD pages. But this doesnt work either. I get compilation
errors as follows. Whats wrong? What did I do? I installed
www/mozilla-headers also since that seemed to have npapi.h but that
npapi.h was installed into /usr/X11R6/include/mozilla/plugin/ and so
was never discovered. Any help is appreciated. Could you please CC me
as I am not subscribed to this list (yet).

,
| gcc -Wall -c -I/usr/local/include -O -D_GNU_SOURCE -DXP_UNIX
| -DVERSION=\1.3. 1-p7-aswini-021003-20:52\ -DDATE=\Oct-03-2002\
| -DARCH=\i386\ -DRAPTOR_ API -DNEW_STREAMING_API
| -I../../oji-plugin/include/solaris/navig4/nspr -I../../o
| ji-plugin/include/solaris/navig4/xpcom
| -I../../oji-plugin/include/solaris/navig4 /caps
| -I../../oji-plugin/include/solaris/navig4/js
| -I../../oji-plugin/include/so laris/navig4/raptor
| -I../../tmp/bsd/i386/CClassHeaders
| -I../../oji-plugin/include/solaris/navig4/oji
| -I../../oji-plugin/include/solaris/navig4/plugin
| -I../../oji-plugin/src/motif/common
| -I../../oji-plugin/src/motif/navig4 -I/usr/X11R6/inclu de
| -I../../oji-plugin/src/motif/badapter
| -I../../../../src/share/javavm/export
| -I../../../../src/solaris/javavm/export -I/usr/X11R6/include
| -I../../oji-plugin/ src/share -o ../../tmp/bsd/i386/stubs.o
| ../../oji-plugin/src/motif/common/stubs. c
| 
| In file included from ../../oji-plugin/src/motif/common/stubs.c:29:
| /usr/X11R6/include/npapi.h:1: #error
| /tmp/qt-3.0-reggie-21297/qt/extensions/nsp lugin/src/npapi.h must be
| provided by Netscape /usr/X11R6/include/npapi.h:2: #error This file
| is just a placeholder. Please see the documentation
| /usr/X11R6/include/npapi.h:3: #error to learn how to obtain the real
| file
| 
| In file included from ../../oji-plugin/src/motif/common/stubs.c:30:
| /usr/X11R6/include/npupp.h:1: #error
| /tmp/qt-3.0-reggie-21297/qt/extensions/nsp lugin/src/npupp.h must be
| provided by Netscape /usr/X11R6/include/npupp.h:2: #error This file
| is just a placeholder. Please se e the documentation
| /usr/X11R6/include/npupp.h:3: #error to learn how to obtain the real
| file gmake[1]: *** [../../tmp/bsd/i386/stubs.o] Error 1 gmake[1]:
| Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk13/work/j2sdk1.3.1/ext/plugin/bu
| ild/solaris' gmake: *** [plugin-all] Error 1
| *** Error code 2
| 
| Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
| User: 1181.281u Kernel: 270.461u Time: 31:25.82 CPU: 76.9% (2911k/27674k) 8409+1
| 315io
| Exit 1
| 
| /usr/X11R6/include/npupp.h:2: #error This file is just a placeholder.
| Please see the documentation /usr/X11R6/include/npupp.h:3: #error
| to learn how to obtain the real file gmake[1]: ***
| [../../tmp/bsd/i386/stubs.o] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory
| `/usr/ports/java/jdk13/work/j2sdk1.3.1/ext/plugin/bu ild/solaris'
| gmake: *** [plugin-all] Error 1
| *** Error code 2
| 
| Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
| User: 1181.281u Kernel: 270.461u Time: 31:25.82 CPU: 76.9% (2911k/27674k) 8409+1
| 315io
| Exit 1
`

Kaarthik

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