Re: PASSWORD LOST!!
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 08:05:24AM -0600, John typed: If this is a dedicated server (or a VPS, or RPS, or any type of server hosted by a server provider), you may have a rescue system, so you can boot it and chroot yourself to access the system. Or, in some cases, you can have a KVM-over-IP access, so you can boot into single user mode. People, people - be careful that we are not creating a formula to break into FreeBSD servers around the world... That formula is allready there (but fixed in more recent source off course) http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2009/Nov/371 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PASSWORD LOST!!
Le 12/02/2010 02:24, Olivier Nicole a écrit : If you have physical access to the server, just reboot it in single user mode, and change the password. You might need to forcibly power it off. It is all covered in the handbook. If you don't have physical access, I think you may be out of luck... May be out of luck? I would hope he is totally out of luck without physical access, if you get my drift! Hope you do have physical access Eric May not be out of luck depending on if the machine has had the last couple of years worth of updates. I'm guessing not if nobody has the root password and the persom who had set it up in the first place has been MIA for who knows how long. I was thinking along the same lines, but at same time Eric didn't know about booting to single user, so would he be able to remotely hack into his own system? Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org If this is a dedicated server (or a VPS, or RPS, or any type of server hosted by a server provider), you may have a rescue system, so you can boot it and chroot yourself to access the system. Or, in some cases, you can have a KVM-over-IP access, so you can boot into single user mode. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PASSWORD LOST!!
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:29:20AM +0100, Julien Gormotte wrote: Le 12/02/2010 02:24, Olivier Nicole a écrit : If you have physical access to the server, just reboot it in single user mode, and change the password. You might need to forcibly power it off. It is all covered in the handbook. If you don't have physical access, I think you may be out of luck... May be out of luck? I would hope he is totally out of luck without physical access, if you get my drift! Hope you do have physical access Eric May not be out of luck depending on if the machine has had the last couple of years worth of updates. I'm guessing not if nobody has the root password and the persom who had set it up in the first place has been MIA for who knows how long. I was thinking along the same lines, but at same time Eric didn't know about booting to single user, so would he be able to remotely hack into his own system? Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org If this is a dedicated server (or a VPS, or RPS, or any type of server hosted by a server provider), you may have a rescue system, so you can boot it and chroot yourself to access the system. Or, in some cases, you can have a KVM-over-IP access, so you can boot into single user mode. People, people - be careful that we are not creating a formula to break into FreeBSD servers around the world... The only acceptable solution is for someone in Eric's organization to secure physical access to the server. It may be in a co-lo situation, but if that's true, they must have a contract open and, if nothing else, they terminate the contract and get the machine back, though more likely, the contract allows them supervised access. Machines are not perfect - even without losing the root password, they break and need maintenance - this is a MAINTENANCE event and should be treated as such, just like a hard drive failure or a NIC failure. Creating a scheme for someone to break into FreeBSD systems remotely or to publicize schemes people have created to remotely manage their systems in ways that could be used to compromise them is foolishness! Regardless of the purity of his intention, Eric is asking us to tell him how to break into our homes or steal our cars. ;) -- John Lind j...@starfire.mn.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PASSWORD LOST!!
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:05 AM, John j...@starfire.mn.org wrote: People, people - be careful that we are not creating a formula to break into FreeBSD servers around the world... The only acceptable solution is for someone in Eric's organization to secure physical access to the server. It may be in a co-lo situation, but if that's true, they must have a contract open and, if nothing else, they terminate the contract and get the machine back, though more likely, the contract allows them supervised access. Machines are not perfect - even without losing the root password, they break and need maintenance - this is a MAINTENANCE event and should be treated as such, just like a hard drive failure or a NIC failure. Creating a scheme for someone to break into FreeBSD systems remotely or to publicize schemes people have created to remotely manage their systems in ways that could be used to compromise them is foolishness! Regardless of the purity of his intention, Eric is asking us to tell him how to break into our homes or steal our cars. ;) Security through obscurity is no security, hence it is a good exercise. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PASSWORD LOST!!
Le 12/02/2010 15:19, Adam Vande More a écrit : On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:05 AM, John j...@starfire.mn.org mailto:j...@starfire.mn.org wrote: People, people - be careful that we are not creating a formula to break into FreeBSD servers around the world... The only acceptable solution is for someone in Eric's organization to secure physical access to the server. It may be in a co-lo situation, but if that's true, they must have a contract open and, if nothing else, they terminate the contract and get the machine back, though more likely, the contract allows them supervised access. Machines are not perfect - even without losing the root password, they break and need maintenance - this is a MAINTENANCE event and should be treated as such, just like a hard drive failure or a NIC failure. Creating a scheme for someone to break into FreeBSD systems remotely or to publicize schemes people have created to remotely manage their systems in ways that could be used to compromise them is foolishness! Regardless of the purity of his intention, Eric is asking us to tell him how to break into our homes or steal our cars. ;) Security through obscurity is no security, hence it is a good exercise. -- Adam Vande More I have to agree. Plus, these ways of setting root password are not breaking into the server. If you have a KVM over IP, it is like physical access. And rescue disks are used for these kinds of situation (among others, like kernel config errors and such). These methods are just what they are : recovery methods. In a dedicated server situation, you are supposed to be the only one to have access to the rescue systems. If we were discussing about gainig root privileges from a normal user account, or remotely (using security holes in php scripts, or in CGI, or... any other thing...), your complaint would somehow make sense (but in fact, it wouldn't, because these security holes don't have to be hidden, they have to be corrected). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PASSWORD LOST!!
Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:05 AM, John j...@starfire.mn.org wrote: People, people - be careful that we are not creating a formula to break into FreeBSD servers around the world... The only acceptable solution is for someone in Eric's organization to secure physical access to the server. It may be in a co-lo situation, but if that's true, they must have a contract open and, if nothing else, they terminate the contract and get the machine back, though more likely, the contract allows them supervised access. Machines are not perfect - even without losing the root password, they break and need maintenance - this is a MAINTENANCE event and should be treated as such, just like a hard drive failure or a NIC failure. Creating a scheme for someone to break into FreeBSD systems remotely or to publicize schemes people have created to remotely manage their systems in ways that could be used to compromise them is foolishness! Regardless of the purity of his intention, Eric is asking us to tell him how to break into our homes or steal our cars. ;) Security through obscurity is no security, hence it is a good exercise. Quite. In any case, the OP started out by telling us how he had plugged a monitor into the server, so we're several degrees removed from reality by this point. -- --Jon Radel j...@radel.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: PASSWORD LOST!!
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:05 AM, John j...@starfire.mn.org wrote: People, people - be careful that we are not creating a formula to break into FreeBSD servers around the world... The only acceptable solution is for someone in Eric's organization to secure physical access to the server. It may be in a co-lo situation, but if that's true, they must have a contract open and, if nothing else, they terminate the contract and get the machine back, though more likely, the contract allows them supervised access. Machines are not perfect - even without losing the root password, they break and need maintenance - this is a MAINTENANCE event and should be treated as such, just like a hard drive failure or a NIC failure. Creating a scheme for someone to break into FreeBSD systems remotely or to publicize schemes people have created to remotely manage their systems in ways that could be used to compromise them is foolishness! Regardless of the purity of his intention, Eric is asking us to tell him how to break into our homes or steal our cars. ;) Security through obscurity is no security, hence it is a good exercise. Agreed, in fact if anything (in my not so humble opinion) open source platforms should ALWAYS publish all known compromises and also lockdown procedures. Doing so would make sure that those of us building the install media and/or default configs do EVERYTHING possible to secure systems from the get go. -- Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PASSWORD LOST!!
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote: On 9 February 2010 15:59, Mike Jeays mike.je...@rogers.com wrote: If you have physical access to the server, just reboot it in single user mode, and change the password. You might need to forcibly power it off. It is all covered in the handbook. If you don't have physical access, I think you may be out of luck... May be out of luck? I would hope he is totally out of luck without physical access, if you get my drift! Hope you do have physical access Eric Chris May not be out of luck depending on if the machine has had the last couple of years worth of updates. I'm guessing not if nobody has the root password and the persom who had set it up in the first place has been MIA for who knows how long. Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PASSWORD LOST!!
If you have physical access to the server, just reboot it in single user mode, and change the password. You might need to forcibly power it off. It is all covered in the handbook. If you don't have physical access, I think you may be out of luck... May be out of luck? I would hope he is totally out of luck without physical access, if you get my drift! Hope you do have physical access Eric May not be out of luck depending on if the machine has had the last couple of years worth of updates. I'm guessing not if nobody has the root password and the persom who had set it up in the first place has been MIA for who knows how long. I was thinking along the same lines, but at same time Eric didn't know about booting to single user, so would he be able to remotely hack into his own system? Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PASSWORD LOST!!
On February 8, 2010 01:53:22 pm Eric Petersen wrote: Hey guys, I have a web/ftp server loaded with FreeBSD. This was done a couple of years back. Since then the person or persons that did the original install have gone out of business and cannot be found. Currently I have an issue logging into the ftp. I hooked a monitor up to the server and I'm getting filesystem full errors and since I don't have a password to get in I cannot have it fixed by someone that knows UNIX. I have made numerous attempts to contact the person that installed on a personal level. But I'm getting the impression he has moved with no forwarding. I you have need for more information I will supply it. I just don't know where to start. Our company's ftp is down and doesn't look like it will return anytime soon with out further assistance. Thank you for your time and have a great day. -- Eric Petersen Pre-Press Technician Anderson Brothers Printing Company 4525 41st Street Sioux City, Iowa 51108 phone: 712.239. fax: 712.239.3322 e-mail: er...@andersonbrothers.biz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org If you have physical access to the server, just reboot it in single user mode, and change the password. You might need to forcibly power it off. It is all covered in the handbook. If you don't have physical access, I think you may be out of luck... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PASSWORD LOST!!
On 9 February 2010 15:59, Mike Jeays mike.je...@rogers.com wrote: On February 8, 2010 01:53:22 pm Eric Petersen wrote: Hey guys, I have a web/ftp server loaded with FreeBSD. This was done a couple of years back. Since then the person or persons that did the original install have gone out of business and cannot be found. Currently I have an issue logging into the ftp. I hooked a monitor up to the server and I'm getting filesystem full errors and since I don't have a password to get in I cannot have it fixed by someone that knows UNIX. I have made numerous attempts to contact the person that installed on a personal level. But I'm getting the impression he has moved with no forwarding. I you have need for more information I will supply it. I just don't know where to start. Our company's ftp is down and doesn't look like it will return anytime soon with out further assistance. Thank you for your time and have a great day. -- Eric Petersen If you have physical access to the server, just reboot it in single user mode, and change the password. You might need to forcibly power it off. It is all covered in the handbook. If you don't have physical access, I think you may be out of luck... May be out of luck? I would hope he is totally out of luck without physical access, if you get my drift! Hope you do have physical access Eric Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
PASSWORD LOST!!
Hey guys, I have a web/ftp server loaded with FreeBSD. This was done a couple of years back. Since then the person or persons that did the original install have gone out of business and cannot be found. Currently I have an issue logging into the ftp. I hooked a monitor up to the server and I'm getting filesystem full errors and since I don't have a password to get in I cannot have it fixed by someone that knows UNIX. I have made numerous attempts to contact the person that installed on a personal level. But I'm getting the impression he has moved with no forwarding. I you have need for more information I will supply it. I just don't know where to start. Our company's ftp is down and doesn't look like it will return anytime soon with out further assistance. Thank you for your time and have a great day. -- Eric Petersen Pre-Press Technician Anderson Brothers Printing Company 4525 41st Street Sioux City, Iowa 51108 phone: 712.239. fax: 712.239.3322 e-mail: er...@andersonbrothers.biz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PASSWORD LOST!!
I have a web/ftp server loaded with FreeBSD. This was done a couple of years back. Since then the person or persons that did the original install have gone out of business and cannot be found. Have you tried booting in single user mode? Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PASSWORD LOST!!
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Eric Petersen er...@andersonbrothers.biz wrote: Hey guys, I have a web/ftp server loaded with FreeBSD. This was done a couple of years back. Since then the person or persons that did the original install have gone out of business and cannot be found. Currently I have an issue logging into the ftp. I hooked a monitor up to the server and I'm getting filesystem full errors and since I don't have a password to get in I cannot have it fixed by someone that knows UNIX. I have made numerous attempts to contact the person that installed on a personal level. But I'm getting the impression he has moved with no forwarding. I you have need for more information I will supply it. I just don't know where to start. Our company's ftp is down and doesn't look like it will return anytime soon with out further assistance. Thank you for your time and have a great day. Read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#FORGOT-ROOT-PW how to become root or the superuser. It could be wise to hire somebody to fix the problem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PASSWORD LOST!!
--On February 8, 2010 12:53:22 PM -0600 Eric Petersen er...@andersonbrothers.biz wrote: Hey guys, I have a web/ftp server loaded with FreeBSD. This was done a couple of years back. Since then the person or persons that did the original install have gone out of business and cannot be found. Currently I have an issue logging into the ftp. I hooked a monitor up to the server and I'm getting filesystem full errors and since I don't have a password to get in I cannot have it fixed by someone that knows UNIX. I have made numerous attempts to contact the person that installed on a personal level. But I'm getting the impression he has moved with no forwarding. Without a password, you need physical access to the server in order to fix the problem. It sounds like you have that, since you said you hooked up a monitor to it. Here's the steps you can take to retrieve the password. Shut the server down by hitting the power button. Then turn it back on and watch the prompts when it's booting up. Chose single user mode. Then follow these steps: # The system will print out Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: # Hit enter to get a prompt # Type fsck -p # Type mount -a # Type passwd You'll be prompted for the password twice. This is the root password, so it will give you full access to the system. # Type exit to return to normal operation. Write the password down and lock it up in the company safe. Surely you have professional Unix support available in Sioux City? Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ** WARNING: Check the headers before replying ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Superuser password lost
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Moran Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:15 PM To: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Superuser password lost Apparently I miscommunicated. My point was that the OP's message used the term superuser in an ambiguous way. (i.e. the way I mentioned). To me, it wasn't clear what it was asking for, and thus sending the OP to the PC-BSD community (where folks are probably familiar to the GUI widget he's dealing with) seemed the best thing to do. Historically on all UNIXes superuser = the root user The problem as I see it is that recently Apple (probably stole this idea from someone else) has introduced ambiguity into the term with the creation of what they call the owner account into MacOS X. With regular MacOS X there's some things that an ordinary user can do, but when an ordinary user tries to do some other things, MacOS X flashes up a dialog asking for the owners password. However, even if you su to root, there's still things that the system will not let you do which is insane because real UNIX will happily allow the root user to rm -r / if desired. Once more, proving that MacOS X is nothing more than UNIX-on-training-wheels, and reaffirming what Apple's historic view of it's customers really is (ie: dumb and dumber) Microsoft also introduced ambiguity into the concept, although to their credit, they scruplously avoided use of the term superuser or root. Under Microsoft operating systems, there's ordinary users and there's administrators and you can have multiple administrators, which isn't possible in UNIX - thus a MS administrator a UNIX superuser. I would suspect PC-BSD has copied the Apple nonsense and has created this mutated account that's not quite a real superuser account, and not quite a regular user account. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Superuser password lost
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:14:32PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: Because I don't think it's appropriate to drag this conversation on and on, I'm going to try to answer all the responses in a single email. Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:27:36AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: [snip] No. The term superuser is a made-up term for any way of gaining root privs. In my experience it's confusing as there are two commonly used methods for doing this, the su command and sudo, and they require different passwords. I have never seen the term used that way. I have seen su and sudo referred to as ways of a non-root id gaining superuser priviledge/root priviledge but not a superuser as someone who is not root, but has a method of gaining root priviledge. Apparently I miscommunicated. My point was that the OP's message used the term superuser in an ambiguous way. (i.e. the way I mentioned). To me, it wasn't clear what it was asking for, and thus sending the OP to the PC-BSD community (where folks are probably familiar to the GUI widget he's dealing with) seemed the best thing to do. I don't really care, but when I read the OP, I believed he was looking for root from what was presented and so that was how I responded. The rest is just small talk.But, asking the PC-BSD folk is not a bad idea. jerry ... ... Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd contend that the su manpage *should* say root not superuser, since root is hardwired as the default. But for other cases, any user with UID 0 might work just as well (e.g. toor). I agree on this point, but not enough to bother trying to put a patch together that (based on the conversation here) is likely to be controversial. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Superuser password lost [SOLVED]
Ok thank you very much it works Luigi Kris Moore a écrit : Luigi, Normally you can't just look-up the password, however you can reset it if you like. To reset, use this procedure: 1. Boot the system 2. At the splash loader screen, choose option 4 single user mode 3. When it drops you to a boot prompt, hit enter, then type in: # mount -o rw / 4. Next enter the password change command: # passwd 5. Change your password, and then type: # exit That should be it! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Superuser password lost
Hi all, Maybe it's a simple question but i'm a newbie lost in my new BSDworld. I've installed PC-BSD but when I want to install a software, It ask me a superuser password. I think I lost this password. How can I retrieve this superuser password ? Thanks Luigi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Superuser password lost
In response to Luigi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, Maybe it's a simple question but i'm a newbie lost in my new BSDworld. I've installed PC-BSD but when I want to install a software, It ask me a superuser password. I think I lost this password. How can I retrieve this superuser password ? This is a PC-BSD-specific question. There is no such thing as the superuser ... it's a colloquialism frequently used by folks to make things sound cooler (or for some other reason I don't understand) PC-BSD has several community lists, including a support list. Have you tried asking there?: http://www.pcbsd.org/content/view/22/29/ -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Superuser password lost
Thanks to all. I'll try it. Luigi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Superuser password lost
Is this the root password of the system or something else? Regards, Ivailo Tanusheff Luigi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12.03.2008 14:59 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To freebsd-questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc Subject Superuser password lost Hi all, Maybe it's a simple question but i'm a newbie lost in my new BSDworld. I've installed PC-BSD but when I want to install a software, It ask me a superuser password. I think I lost this password. How can I retrieve this superuser password ? Thanks Luigi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Superuser password lost
Yes I think it is the root password of the system. Ivailo Tanusheff a écrit : Is this the root password of the system or something else? Regards, Ivailo Tanusheff Luigi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12.03.2008 14:59 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To freebsd-questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc Subject Superuser password lost Hi all, Maybe it's a simple question but i'm a newbie lost in my new BSDworld. I've installed PC-BSD but when I want to install a software, It ask me a superuser password. I think I lost this password. How can I retrieve this superuser password ? Thanks Luigi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Superuser password lost
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 09:52:38AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Luigi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, Maybe it's a simple question but i'm a newbie lost in my new BSDworld. I've installed PC-BSD but when I want to install a software, It ask me a superuser password. I think I lost this password. How can I retrieve this superuser password ? This is a PC-BSD-specific question. There is no such thing as the superuser ... it's a colloquialism frequently used by folks to make things sound cooler (or for some other reason I don't understand) I don't understand this response. Superuser is just another name for the root user which is any user id with a UID of 0. I haven't used PC-BSD flavor, but in general, with BSDs you force them to boot - by killing power if necessary, but a clean shutdown is better (but that usually requires root). Then, while it is booting, make it boot to 'single user' mode. At that point, at the console, you are root. Clean up a little fsck -p mount -u / mount -a swapon -a Then just set a password for root --- and don't forget it. passwd root follow the prompts If PC-BSD doesn't let you boot to single user, then you will need to use an installation CD to get to the point you can write to the passwd and master.passwd files. jerry PC-BSD has several community lists, including a support list. Have you tried asking there?: http://www.pcbsd.org/content/view/22/29/ -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Superuser password lost
In response to Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 09:52:38AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Luigi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, Maybe it's a simple question but i'm a newbie lost in my new BSDworld. I've installed PC-BSD but when I want to install a software, It ask me a superuser password. I think I lost this password. How can I retrieve this superuser password ? This is a PC-BSD-specific question. There is no such thing as the superuser ... it's a colloquialism frequently used by folks to make things sound cooler (or for some other reason I don't understand) I don't understand this response. Superuser is just another name for the root user which is any user id with a UID of 0. No. The term superuser is a made-up term for any way of gaining root privs. In my experience it's confusing as there are two commonly used methods for doing this, the su command and sudo, and they require different passwords. Frankly, I don't know whether PC-BSD is asking for the root password or asking for him to confirm _his_ password for use in a sudo-like operation. I don't know of anywhere in the FreeBSD base system that the term superuser is used, so I assume he'll get a more direct answer from the PC-BSD folks. I haven't used PC-BSD flavor, but in general, with BSDs you force them to boot - by killing power if necessary, but a clean shutdown is better (but that usually requires root). The instructions you give are only correct if it's the root password he lost. It's likely you're right and this will get him up and running again, but I didn't know that for sure and didn't want to lead him down a bunch of steps only to find out that it was asking for something different. I was curious about the PC-BSD community and checked their web site. Based on what I saw, the best advice to me seemed to be to direct him to them. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Superuser password lost
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:27:36AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 09:52:38AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Luigi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, Maybe it's a simple question but i'm a newbie lost in my new BSDworld. I've installed PC-BSD but when I want to install a software, It ask me a superuser password. I think I lost this password. How can I retrieve this superuser password ? This is a PC-BSD-specific question. There is no such thing as the superuser ... it's a colloquialism frequently used by folks to make things sound cooler (or for some other reason I don't understand) I don't understand this response. Superuser is just another name for the root user which is any user id with a UID of 0. No. The term superuser is a made-up term for any way of gaining root privs. In my experience it's confusing as there are two commonly used methods for doing this, the su command and sudo, and they require different passwords. I have never seen the term used that way. I have seen su and sudo referred to as ways of a non-root id gaining superuser priviledge/root priviledge but not a superuser as someone who is not root, but has a method of gaining root priviledge. Anyway, the OP sounds mostly like root is what was needed. jerry Frankly, I don't know whether PC-BSD is asking for the root password or asking for him to confirm _his_ password for use in a sudo-like operation. I don't know of anywhere in the FreeBSD base system that the term superuser is used, so I assume he'll get a more direct answer from the PC-BSD folks. I haven't used PC-BSD flavor, but in general, with BSDs you force them to boot - by killing power if necessary, but a clean shutdown is better (but that usually requires root). The instructions you give are only correct if it's the root password he lost. It's likely you're right and this will get him up and running again, but I didn't know that for sure and didn't want to lead him down a bunch of steps only to find out that it was asking for something different. I was curious about the PC-BSD community and checked their web site. Based on what I saw, the best advice to me seemed to be to direct him to them. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Superuser password lost
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:27:36AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 09:52:38AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Luigi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, Maybe it's a simple question but i'm a newbie lost in my new BSDworld. I've installed PC-BSD but when I want to install a software, It ask me a superuser password. I think I lost this password. How can I retrieve this superuser password ? This is a PC-BSD-specific question. There is no such thing as the superuser ... it's a colloquialism frequently used by folks to make things sound cooler (or for some other reason I don't understand) I don't understand this response. Superuser is just another name for the root user which is any user id with a UID of 0. No. The term superuser is a made-up term for any way of gaining root privs. Wrong. superuser is, just as the previous poster said, a synonym for root, i.e. a user account with UID=0 See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser or http://catb.org/jargon/html/S/superuser.html -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Superuser password lost
Bill Moran wrote: I don't know of anywhere in the FreeBSD base system that the term superuser is used, so I assume he'll get a more direct answer from the PC-BSD folks. Hate to be picky, because I'd agree with most everything else you wrote, but superuser, and its synonym super-user, do appear in many base man pages, for example the su page shown below. Sometimes it's a shortcut for root (or other UID 0 user), like below in su, sometimes just for effective UID 0 in general, for example as in mount(8). The su utility requests appropriate user credentials via PAM and switches to that user ID (the default user is the superuser). A shell is then executed. I'd contend that the su manpage *should* say root not superuser, since root is hardwired as the default. But for other cases, any user with UID 0 might work just as well (e.g. toor). --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Superuser password lost
On Wednesday 12 March 2008 16:27:36 Bill Moran wrote: I don't know of anywhere in the FreeBSD base system that the term superuser is used In the kernel even! suser(9), suser_cred(9), vfs_suser(9) -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Superuser password lost
On 12 mrt 2008, at 19:26, Mel wrote: On Wednesday 12 March 2008 16:27:36 Bill Moran wrote: I don't know of anywhere in the FreeBSD base system that the term superuser is used In the kernel even! suser(9), suser_cred(9), vfs_suser(9) Have you had a look at 'man su' ? Arno ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Superuser password lost
Because I don't think it's appropriate to drag this conversation on and on, I'm going to try to answer all the responses in a single email. Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:27:36AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: [snip] No. The term superuser is a made-up term for any way of gaining root privs. In my experience it's confusing as there are two commonly used methods for doing this, the su command and sudo, and they require different passwords. I have never seen the term used that way. I have seen su and sudo referred to as ways of a non-root id gaining superuser priviledge/root priviledge but not a superuser as someone who is not root, but has a method of gaining root priviledge. Apparently I miscommunicated. My point was that the OP's message used the term superuser in an ambiguous way. (i.e. the way I mentioned). To me, it wasn't clear what it was asking for, and thus sending the OP to the PC-BSD community (where folks are probably familiar to the GUI widget he's dealing with) seemed the best thing to do. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:27:36AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: [snip] No. The term superuser is a made-up term for any way of gaining root privs. Wrong. superuser is, just as the previous poster said, a synonym for root, i.e. a user account with UID=0 See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser or http://catb.org/jargon/html/S/superuser.html Who am I to argue with wikipedia? But the second link you provide does not agree with your explanation. According to The Jargon File, my wmoran account is a superuser, because it's a member of the wheel group. Thus, my argument that the term is ambiguous, which (based on the links you provided) you seem to be backing up. Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hate to be picky, because I'd agree with most everything else you wrote, but superuser, and its synonym super-user, do appear in many base man pages, for example the su page shown below. Sometimes it's a shortcut for root (or other UID 0 user), like below in su, sometimes just for effective UID 0 in general, for example as in mount(8). The su utility requests appropriate user credentials via PAM and switches to that user ID (the default user is the superuser). A shell is then executed. Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the kernel even! suser(9), suser_cred(9), vfs_suser(9) OK, I was wrong on this point. Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd contend that the su manpage *should* say root not superuser, since root is hardwired as the default. But for other cases, any user with UID 0 might work just as well (e.g. toor). I agree on this point, but not enough to bother trying to put a patch together that (based on the conversation here) is likely to be controversial. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
freebsd root password lost
Is there other way to change the root password that been lost without shutting down the computer. Old way shutdown space barboot -s #mount -t ufs -a #passwd # exit to multiusers. Dan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd root password lost
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 19:49:32 + DanB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there other way to change the root password that been lost without shutting down the computer. Take a look at: Dru's Cracking Passwords to Enhance Security http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/01/24/FreeBSD_Basics.html It might work. ( UNtested: /var/backups/master.passwd.bak should contain the old passwords and, with pwd_mkdb master.passwd.bak should regenerate the old password databases. But first backup and READ PWD_MKDB(8) ) -- IOnut FreeBSD unregistered ;) user ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
