Re: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE stability?

2013-10-01 Thread Mark Felder
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013, at 14:01, Brett Glass wrote:
 How stable are folks finding FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE to be? The 
 improvements are welcome, but there have been a few troubling 
 messages about kernel panics and VM issues on the various mailing 
 lists. It's never clear until the release drops whether these are 
 actual problems with the software or hardware defects in individual 
 systems, so I am eager to hear how the new release is working for
 everyone.
 

I upgraded our two main backup servers which are doing I/O via
rsync/rsnapshot and sending ZFS snapshots to the other remote site every
15 minutes.

I had several instances where the machines went unresponsive. They
didn't panic, and they did respond to CTRL+ALT+DEL on the console, but
they lost all networking and wouldn't do anything else. The only change
was I enabled zfs prefetch which I previously had disabled for
performance reasons. It never caused this issue on 9.1 when I had it
enabled, though. The fix definitely was turning off prefetch again which
doesn't bother me too much, but I can't use this environment to try to
help debug it as it's important production data.
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Re: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE stability?

2013-10-01 Thread CeDeROM
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Mark Felder f...@freebsd.org wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 30, 2013, at 14:01, Brett Glass wrote:
 How stable are folks finding FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE to be?

For me freebsd-update from 9.1 to 9.2 went smooth on my workstation
laptop, the userland works fine :-)

I remember myself Nakatomi BSD 9.2 on the movie (in the reception
hall scene), I was su suprised back then to see BSD in this kind of
movie :-)

Best regards :-)
Tomek

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Re: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE stability?

2013-10-01 Thread other

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013, at 14:01, Brett Glass wrote:

How stable are folks finding FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE to be? The
improvements are welcome, but there have been a few troubling
messages about kernel panics and VM issues on the various mailing
lists. It's never clear until the release drops whether these are
actual problems with the software or hardware defects in individual
systems, so I am eager to hear how the new release is working for
everyone.



very frustrated at the moment...


I've had some very strange issues crop up since upgrading from 
9.1-RELEASE to 9.2-RELEASE.


I'm using FreeBSD on a Xen HVM instance. My previous install was a 
system with a custom kernel
(includes Xen HVM options) (entire base and kernel compiled with Clang 
3.1 (base clang)).

The system worked flawlessly.

A rinse and repeat upgrade (build from source) with 9.2 is giving me 
some very strange issues:


* Randomly when I start the VM, there is no network connectivity. I 
first noticed DHCP was timing
out. The link appeared to be up on the xn0 interface but no data flow 
at all. Attempted manual
interface configuration. Zilch, couldn't even get a response from the 
default gateway when pinging
(both ipv4 and ipv6). A reboot of the machine and suddenly network 
connectivity is restored. Subsequently
with no predictability, another reboot = no network again. No errors in 
dmesg or /var/log/messages.


* /usr/ports/net/net-im/jabber (which appears not to have changed 
versions between my system upgrade) randomly

aborts with signal 10 (bus error).

* Programs that rely on mysql (installed percona 5.5 server) (such as 
jabber, powerdns etc) spew a bunch of errors saying they are unable
to connect to the mysql server via /tmp/mysql.sock, after I log in and 
look, mysql is running just fine, and the programs
that were complaining about mysql being unreachable are all operating 
correctly... (i have mysql set to start in /etc/rc.d before any of
the programs that require it are started) -- never saw these issues in 
9.1


* I run powerdns recursor for resolution of domain names. Despite 
having the recursor as being one of the first things
in rc.conf to start (certainly before ntpdate), ntpdate decides to run 
before the recursor has started. This causes the lookup of the ntp 
server
hostname to fail (using -b ip.ip.ip.ip as a flag to ntpdate rather than 
a host is a way to work around the issue).



This was a clean build. I cleared up old libraries and rebuilt all my 
installed ports from scratch, I left no

kruft lingering on the system to the best of my knowledge.

Normally I would put something like the jabber server issue just being 
bad code that clang is happy to compile.. But the
random network issue has the alarm bells ringing. Perhaps there is an 
issue with clang 3.3 generating faulty code?


I havent had any kernel panics or machine freezes.

This has to be a first for me with freebsd, I almost never ever have an 
issue after upgrading from RELEASE to RELEASE.


I can probably rebuild it all again with the base gcc compiler, but 
clang is much much faster than the dinosaur gcc included in
base and produces better code. Up in the air with this one. I might go 
back to 9.1, had none of these issues with it.


/my 10 cents worth.

BR,
Alex.

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Re: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE stability?

2013-10-01 Thread Mark Felder
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013, at 18:54, ot...@ahhyes.net wrote:
 
 * I run powerdns recursor for resolution of domain names. Despite 
 having the recursor as being one of the first things
 in rc.conf to start (certainly before ntpdate), ntpdate decides to run 
 before the recursor has started. This causes the lookup of the ntp 
 server
 hostname to fail (using -b ip.ip.ip.ip as a flag to ntpdate rather than 
 a host is a way to work around the issue).
 

Create in rc script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d that does nothing but set the
REQUIRE and BEFORE fields. You can use that to re-order the startup
scripts. Use the `service` command to see the new startup order --
there's a flag that will give you that output.
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Re: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE stability?

2013-09-30 Thread staticsafe

On 9/30/2013 15:01, Brett Glass wrote:

How stable are folks finding FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE to be? The improvements
are welcome, but there have been a few troubling messages about kernel
panics and VM issues on the various mailing lists. It's never clear
until the release drops whether these are actual problems with the
software or hardware defects in individual systems, so I am eager to
hear how the new release is working for everyone.

--Brett Glass


Just upgraded a system running in KVM, working like a charm.

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Re: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE stability?

2013-09-30 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:01:26 -0600,
Brett Glass br...@lariat.net a écrit :

Hello,

 How stable are folks finding FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE to be? The 
 improvements are welcome, but there have been a few troubling 
 messages about kernel panics and VM issues on the various mailing 
 lists. It's never clear until the release drops whether these are 
 actual problems with the software or hardware defects in individual 
 systems, so I am eager to hear how the new release is working for
 everyone.

I've seen two problems if you use poudriere (on ZFS only?) which
occur in some loads (ie desktop running gvfsd). One fix is in 9-STABLE
and the other one should be mfced soon.

May be there will be an errata for 9.2-RELEASE for
this ? I think that would be nice because 9.2 is stable as a
Windows 3.11 with my load :-)

Regards.
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Re: FreeBSD 9.2

2013-08-21 Thread ajtiM
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1619404

It is helpful too…


On Aug 15, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Doug Hardie bc...@lafn.org wrote:

 
 On 15 August 2013, at 06:37, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 How will be ATI supported in FreeBSD 9.2, please? I like bluetooth mouse. Is 
 it supported?
 
 I try Linux Mint and it works perfect. I am downloading live CD for NetBSD 
 (jibbed) and I will see how is works but I like to install FreeBSD (not 
 double boot, just FreeBSD).
 
 
 See:  http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?28915479-B712-4ED0-A041-B75F2F59FECA
 
 Thats not a complete answer as I don't use any of the user interface stuff.  
 However, it will give a starting point for you.  I have updated my two newest 
 minis to run 9.2 (latest candidate).
 
 

Mitja

http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa

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Re: freebsd 9.2 via svn

2013-08-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 02:28:25 +0100, John wrote:
 Is it safe to start using 9.2 in the svn repos? I have a line like
 this in a daily crontab:
 
 svn co svn://svn.us-east.freebsd.org/base/releng/9.1 /usr/src
 
 Can I change that 9.1 to 9.2 now, or should I wait? I aim to follow
 9.2-R with security updates.

9.2-RELEASE hasn't been released yet. :-)

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.2R/schedule.html

If you don't use a custom kernel, why not use freebsd-update
and follow the 9.2-RELEASE path with the security updates?




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Re: freebsd 9.2 via svn

2013-08-18 Thread John
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 04:17:02AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:

 9.2-RELEASE hasn't been released yet. :-)

well yes, there is that I suppose ;)

 If you don't use a custom kernel, why not use freebsd-update
 and follow the 9.2-RELEASE path with the security updates?

Not sure if this is logic or religon, but freebsd-update makes me
nervous. I'm allergic to automatic anything unless I've written it. The only
times I've run generic is when installing a new system, to see what I
need and what I don't. Maybe I'm just old.

thanks for the input,
-- 
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Re: freebsd 9.2 via svn

2013-08-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 04:22:15 +0100, John wrote:
  If you don't use a custom kernel, why not use freebsd-update
  and follow the 9.2-RELEASE path with the security updates?
 
 Not sure if this is logic or religon, but freebsd-update makes me
 nervous. I'm allergic to automatic anything unless I've written it. The only
 times I've run generic is when installing a new system, to see what I
 need and what I don't. Maybe I'm just old.

You demonstrated a valid argument for building from source.
Using freebsd-update, a binary method is used for updating
the _default_ system and the GENERIC kernel. If you have
custom settings and therefore _intend_ to build from source,
changing the version in your svn co command to the new
-RELEASE-pX branch (security update branch) is safe.

I've been using a similar approach with CVS to follow the
-STABLE branch with a custom kernel and custom settings for
building the system. If this makes me old, I should deserve
several birthday parties per year. ;-)



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Re: FreeBSD 9.2

2013-08-16 Thread ajtiM
Thank you very much.
I will wait for 9.2 release or switch to Linux which works but it is not hat I 
want it…

On Aug 15, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Doug Hardie bc...@lafn.org wrote:

 
 On 15 August 2013, at 06:37, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 How will be ATI supported in FreeBSD 9.2, please? I like bluetooth mouse. Is 
 it supported?
 
 I try Linux Mint and it works perfect. I am downloading live CD for NetBSD 
 (jibbed) and I will see how is works but I like to install FreeBSD (not 
 double boot, just FreeBSD).
 
 
 See:  http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?28915479-B712-4ED0-A041-B75F2F59FECA
 
 Thats not a complete answer as I don't use any of the user interface stuff.  
 However, it will give a starting point for you.  I have updated my two newest 
 minis to run 9.2 (latest candidate).
 
 

Mitja

http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa

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Re: FreeBSD 9.2

2013-08-15 Thread Doug Hardie

On 15 August 2013, at 06:37, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 How will be ATI supported in FreeBSD 9.2, please? I like bluetooth mouse. Is 
 it supported?
 
 I try Linux Mint and it works perfect. I am downloading live CD for NetBSD 
 (jibbed) and I will see how is works but I like to install FreeBSD (not 
 double boot, just FreeBSD).
 

See:  http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?28915479-B712-4ED0-A041-B75F2F59FECA

Thats not a complete answer as I don't use any of the user interface stuff.  
However, it will give a starting point for you.  I have updated my two newest 
minis to run 9.2 (latest candidate).


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