Re: What's wrong with this picture?
On Saturday 06 June 2009 05:43:15 Charlie Kester wrote: On Fri 05 Jun 2009 at 15:06:40 PDT Paul Chvostek wrote: If you elect to filter this person's traffic, and are concerned that you'll continue to be inundated with replies, I'd like to suggest a small procmail script I wrote years ago. http://www.it.ca/~paul/s/procmail-filter-msgid It caches the message-id of the troll's posts and filters the message (redirect or bitbucket). It then caches the message-id of any message that includes a cached message-id in its headers (i.e. In-Reply-To, Refererences) and filters that too. The effect is to hide not just the troll's mail, but all the conversations he starts. I haven't actively used this thing since 2003, but procmail hasn't changed much in that time either. Hope it helps. Thanks, I'll give it a try. One thought however. If I'd already filtered this thread, I would have missed helpful tips like yours. I guess that's the price that has to be paid. Unless you're absolutely certain someone is never going to talk sense, I reckon the backscatter is quite useful, to keep an eye on what the killfiled person is talking about and how people are reacting. Killfiling whole threads automatically because a particular person has joined in is a drastic step. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's wrong with this picture?
Ian, On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 04:00:40PM +1000, Ian Smith wrote: Woj, 20 out of 36 messages, over 55% of all these messages, are by you. ... You are equally as capable in this role as wannabe list wrecker, opining on every second message including all the silly wildly off-topic ones. If you elect to filter this person's traffic, and are concerned that you'll continue to be inundated with replies, I'd like to suggest a small procmail script I wrote years ago. http://www.it.ca/~paul/s/procmail-filter-msgid It caches the message-id of the troll's posts and filters the message (redirect or bitbucket). It then caches the message-id of any message that includes a cached message-id in its headers (i.e. In-Reply-To, Refererences) and filters that too. The effect is to hide not just the troll's mail, but all the conversations he starts. I haven't actively used this thing since 2003, but procmail hasn't changed much in that time either. Hope it helps. Sometimes killing the trolls is just too much effort. -- Paul Chvostek p...@it.ca it.canadahttp://www.it.ca/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's wrong with this picture?
On Fri 05 Jun 2009 at 15:06:40 PDT Paul Chvostek wrote: If you elect to filter this person's traffic, and are concerned that you'll continue to be inundated with replies, I'd like to suggest a small procmail script I wrote years ago. http://www.it.ca/~paul/s/procmail-filter-msgid It caches the message-id of the troll's posts and filters the message (redirect or bitbucket). It then caches the message-id of any message that includes a cached message-id in its headers (i.e. In-Reply-To, Refererences) and filters that too. The effect is to hide not just the troll's mail, but all the conversations he starts. I haven't actively used this thing since 2003, but procmail hasn't changed much in that time either. Hope it helps. Thanks, I'll give it a try. One thought however. If I'd already filtered this thread, I would have missed helpful tips like yours. I guess that's the price that has to be paid. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's wrong with this picture?
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 02:03:19AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: so you like to moderate me, being against moderation I think GT would like you to moderate yourself, as would I. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Niven: That's the thing about people who think they hate computers. What they really hate is lousy programmers. pgpYtITijLCNV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What's wrong with this picture?
--On Monday, June 01, 2009 13:46:11 -0500 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 02:03:19AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: so you like to moderate me, being against moderation I think GT would like you to moderate yourself, as would I. Moderation is available to anyone who wants it. It's called filtering. Yours is the first of these I've seen in quite some time - which means I need to tweak my filters a bit. Mr. Puchar's posts no longer bother me. I suggest you do the same. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** Check the headers before clicking on Reply. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's wrong with this picture?
exactly On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Monday, June 01, 2009 13:46:11 -0500 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 02:03:19AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: so you like to moderate me, being against moderation I think GT would like you to moderate yourself, as would I. Moderation is available to anyone who wants it. It's called filtering. Yours is the first of these I've seen in quite some time - which means I need to tweak my filters a bit. Mr. Puchar's posts no longer bother me. I suggest you do the same. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** Check the headers before clicking on Reply. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's wrong with this picture?
(Wojciech Puchar) 33. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (Wojciech Puchar) 34. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (cpghost) 35. Filter request Re: GSM to Serial Converter (Wojciech Puchar) 36. Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail (Wojciech Puchar) Woj, 20 out of 36 messages, over 55% of all these messages, are by you. That's fine. then please - if you count mine as spam, ignore them and calculate stats with the rest. 50% of messages either from you, or from silly people reacting to you, So you just classify people as silly because then answer me. It isn't polite i think. I gather that you're hoping to prove that without moderation - as we've enjoyed for 11 years that I've experienced - if you keep on flooding the list with so much off-topic crap. Again - calculate how many not-mine threads are on topic. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's wrong with this picture?
I'm pretty sure you could set up a filter on Mr Puchar's name; it's not hard. That said, I just read a sample of his posts (not all of them), and the ones I looked at didn't appear to be 'off-topic' and would probably have passed muster from any reasonable moderator (aye, but there's the rub: who gets to define 'reasonable'?). The phrase You're fast to agree with our resident M$ troll when he argues against government control of anything, even of protecting the population from a 'free' market that's happy to profit by poisoning people in body or mind stands in stark contrast to your exhortation that he focus [his] energies on things you do know something about. I'm against moderation, for the simple reason that people who want to be moderators will bring their baggage to their efforts (like your corporations kill the environment and are protected by the 'free' market stuff, or my government is the problem, full stop: Caedite Eos stuff). That is to say, anyone who wants to be a moderator ought to be disqualified from doing so (that goes for anyone who wants to control anyone else). In sum, I double-plus unbellyfeel groupthink. Cheerio GT (No Microsoft products were used in the creation of this message - MS would not exist but for its government contracts ... MSFT is a distinctly NON-'market' entity). On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 16:00 +1000, Ian Smith wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2009, freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org wrote in freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 260, Issue 31 [..] 1. Fw: UK Currency Symbol in 7.2 Console (Graham Bentley) 2. Re: find and searching for specific expression in files (Mel Flynn) 3. Re: find and searching for specific expression in files (Valentin Bud) 4. Re: MIME attachments in mbox files (Ian Smith) 5. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (Jerry) 6. FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found (Prokofyev Vladislav) 7. GSM to Serial Converter (Exemys) 8. Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found (Mel Flynn) 9. Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found (Michael Powell) 10. Re: GSM to Serial Converter (Kevin Kinsey) 11. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (cpghost) 12. Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found (Prokofyev Vladislav) 13. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (Wojciech Puchar) 14. Re: Fresh install 7.2-RELEASE i386, X won't start (Wojciech Puchar) 15. Re: Failure to get past a PCI bridge (Ian Smith) 16. Re: What is this forum for? (Wojciech Puchar) 17. Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail (Wojciech Puchar) 18. Re: What is this forum for? (Wojciech Puchar) 19. Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found (Mel Flynn) 20. Re: On the need for moderated questions lists (Wojciech Puchar) 21. Re: Competition law (was Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint) (Wojciech Puchar) 22. RE: On the need for moderated questions lists (Wojciech Puchar) 23. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (Wojciech Puchar) 24. Re: MIME attachments in mbox files (Wojciech Puchar) 25. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (Wojciech Puchar) 26. Re: On the need for moderated questions lists (Wojciech Puchar) 27. Re: Remotely edit user disk quota (Wojciech Puchar) 28. Re: find and searching for specific expression in files (Wojciech Puchar) 29. Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail (Mel Flynn) 30. Re: Software creating karaoke from mp3 files (Wojciech Puchar) 31. Re: Greylisting and new posters (Wojciech Puchar) 32. Re: find and searching for specific expression in files (Wojciech Puchar) 33. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (Wojciech Puchar) 34. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (cpghost) 35. Filter request Re: GSM to Serial Converter (Wojciech Puchar) 36. Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail (Wojciech Puchar) Woj, 20 out of 36 messages, over 55% of all these messages, are by you. Having been very busy in recent weeks, I'd accumulated about 24 digests unread that I ploughed through yesterday, many of which featured over 50% of messages either from you, or from silly people reacting to you, whose ranks I must join for just this once. I gather that you're hoping to prove that without moderation - as we've enjoyed for 11 years that I've experienced - if you keep on flooding the list with so much off-topic crap, then we'll be forced into accepting your wish for the list to be controlled, post by post, by some poor bastard who needs to be awake 24/7/365 and has little else of a life. I don't have the sort of free time (nor apparent need) that you have to try fashioning this sometimes-helpful list after my own wishes, which is why I get digests, posting occasionally where I think I can maybe help. I'm also subscribed to about a dozen other FreeBSD lists that in total deliver not many more
Re: What's wrong with this picture?
passed muster from any reasonable moderator (aye, but there's the rub: who gets to define 'reasonable'?). The phrase You're fast to agree with our resident M$ troll when he argues against government control of anything, even of protecting the population from a 'free' market that's happy to profit by poisoning people in body or mind stands in stark contrast to your exhortation that he focus [his] energies on things you do know something about. I'm against moderation, for the simple reason that people who want to be moderators will bring their baggage to their efforts (like your corporations kill the environment and are protected by the 'free' market stuff, or my government is the problem, full stop: Caedite Eos stuff). That is to say, anyone who wants to be a moderator ought to be disqualified from doing so (that goes for anyone who wants to control so you like to moderate me, being against moderation ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's wrong with this picture?
Please take this to chat@, because this is getting really old. -- Glen Barber http://www.dev-urandom.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
