Re: Spam and more spam
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012, Erich Dollansky wrote: could t be that everybody can post now on this list without being registered and without having administrator's approval? It actually has been that way forever. There may be certain rules that trigger moderation in some cases, but usually not. The reason for the open list is that questions@ has been given as a support address in documents, and some feel that should remain open. Should we move to a list where only registered users can write just to avoid the spam problem and not forcing a human to approve all e-mails from addresses which are not registered? The forums are that way already: http://forums.freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Spam and more spam
Hi, could t be that everybody can post now on this list without being registered and without having administrator's approval? I remember that my messages got delayed when I used my work's e-mail address but when I just send an answer to a question intentional with my work's e-mail address, it worked. Should we move to a list where only registered users can write just to avoid the spam problem and not forcing a human to approve all e-mails from addresses which are not registered? Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spam and more spam.
Hi Gary, On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:03:49 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:49:34AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:43:13 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:27:30PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: im getting too aged [and achy and cranky:)] to sleep well, oh, do you have a Windows machine secretly running somewhere? I would not be able to sleep then either. ha! never, never have I bought even one dos/doze computer. my daughter was given an old [1998] w2k box that she played games on. it is long-gone:) you do not even know then what these people go through. Let me see what you got. yup, exactly. these sorry, pathetic guys see an easy way to spam and do it. ... . They have meet month's end. They needed the money ... Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spam and more spam.
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 05:06:11PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:39:12 +1100 andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com wrote: On Wed 2012-10-10 10:16:35 UTC+0200, René Mercier (realmo.merc...@gmail.com) wrote: Bonjour, Je suis sous Debian, mais travaillant dans les réseaux, je souhaiterai passer sur FreeBsd pour sa stabilité et pour sa sécurité,, je vois qu'actuellement il y une 9 rc1, pourriez vous s'il vous plait me dire quelle la prochaine release à venir et sa date de sortie http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list. I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam. Erich ___ Aloha Erich, I'm getting SPAM on the FreeBSD list for a couple of days now. In several languages including Chinese and French as well as English. Doesnt our list have a way to block so much of this? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol aloha al! I have been getting arabic, vchinese, french, and other spam in recent weeks. Ugh!! dont know how it is getting thru godaddy's filters, but it is. gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spam and more spam.
[8.8.178.136]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BB81A9065; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:36 + (UTC) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [8.8.178.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF3A7B3; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:34 + (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org) Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD24A75B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:26 + (UTC) (envelope-from kl...@thought.org) Received: from m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D6B8FC0A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:26 + (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id 9i4o1k00D4XeM0101i4pXU; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:48 -0700 From: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org To: Al Plant n...@hdk5.net Subject: Re: Spam and more spam. Message-ID: 20121011060448.ga14...@ethic.thought.org References: ca+tgwha3kpnci5w2yrxfb9_ih-j+t_futpbvglmcmnufs-c...@mail.gmail.com 20121010083911.ga4...@ozzmosis.com 20121010154957.11f9d...@x220.ovitrap.com 507637a3.1030...@hdk5.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: 507637a3.1030...@hdk5.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Erich Dollansky er...@alogreentechnologies.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions freebsd-questions.freebsd.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions, mailto:freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions List-Post: mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Help: mailto:freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions, mailto:freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by alogreentechnologies.com id q9B67nvS032260 X-UIDL: (B8!!n^Y!!k*h!!hjE! This looks to me that both senders are registered with FreeBSD.org. The only other alternative would be that it is now possible to send messages to the list directly without registration. I do not believe that the PCs of people here running Windows are abused. It just does not look like. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spam and more spam.
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Re: Spam and more spam.
Hi Gary,
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:43:13 -0700
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:27:30PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
Hi,
hello erich and everyone,
im getting too aged [and achy and cranky:)] to sleep well,
oh, do you have a Windows machine secretly running somewhere? I would
not be able to sleep then either.
so I am not as patient as you, erich,--or others still
on-list. I have =not= read all the mail headers below. but at the
bottom of this email I will enclose an arabic [i think!] email. if
you can gleen anything from it, excellent. I get other *non*-8859
iso encoded email. {Note that I still use mutt as my mua.
until all this spam, I did not know that mutt could even render non-
Latin characters.
Let me see what you got.
for my appending the spam that I got from wherever. it
might have been sent from Anywhere.
It looks to me too like it came directly to you as there is no sign of
FreeBSD have been between.
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I get hundreds of them. All get handled properly on my system except
the one coming via FreeBSd.org as my system sees FreeBSD.org as a
serious sender. This might be the reason those people try it now that
way.
Erich
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Re: Spam and more spam.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:49:34AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
Hi Gary,
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:43:13 -0700
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:27:30PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
Hi,
hello erich and everyone,
im getting too aged [and achy and cranky:)] to sleep well,
oh, do you have a Windows machine secretly running somewhere? I would
not be able to sleep then either.
ha! never, never have I bought even one dos/doze computer. my
daughter was given an old [1998] w2k box that she played games on.
it is long-gone:)
so I am not as patient as you, erich,--or others still
on-list. I have =not= read all the mail headers below. but at the
bottom of this email I will enclose an arabic [i think!] email. if
you can gleen anything from it, excellent. I get other *non*-8859
iso encoded email. {Note that I still use mutt as my mua.
until all this spam, I did not know that mutt could even render non-
Latin characters.
Let me see what you got.
for my appending the spam that I got from wherever. it
might have been sent from Anywhere.
It looks to me too like it came directly to you as there is no sign of
FreeBSD have been between.
it looks to me like this [and probably my other junk email] is
coming from the lines in my ~/.fetchmailrc that go out and
pull in what is sent to my gmail account. [rarely, there is
spam from one of the freebsd lists--usually questions.] instead
of getting mad, I just hit d and move on.
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Re: Spam and more spam.
Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:39:12 +1100 andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com wrote: On Wed 2012-10-10 10:16:35 UTC+0200, René Mercier (realmo.merc...@gmail.com) wrote: Bonjour, Je suis sous Debian, mais travaillant dans les réseaux, je souhaiterai passer sur FreeBsd pour sa stabilité et pour sa sécurité,, je vois qu'actuellement il y une 9 rc1, pourriez vous s'il vous plait me dire quelle la prochaine release à venir et sa date de sortie http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list. I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam. Erich ___ Aloha Erich, I'm getting SPAM on the FreeBSD list for a couple of days now. In several languages including Chinese and French as well as English. Doesnt our list have a way to block so much of this? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spam and more spam.
Hi Al, On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:06:11 -1000 Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam. Aloha Erich, my wife loves you. This is for sure. Why? She loves your place. I'm getting SPAM on the FreeBSD list for a couple of days now. In several languages including Chinese and French as well as English. There are two kind of spams. One comes directly via the list and one comes only to the addresses used at the list. Doesnt our list have a way to block so much of this? If I use my other e-mail addresses which are not registered, I get an message that the mail needs approval. The person who approves should block the spam coming via the list. But I also get some spam from people who harvested my address there. It is still not enough to make me a special filter rule. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 Even for the fact that I do not have a reason to complain, your address sounds cool. Erich + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
