Re: Why no ls on DVD or livefs.iso?
At 01:58 10/6/2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 01:29:19 -0500, W. D. wrote: Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. Very limited commands: ls: not found. Try /rescue/ls explicitely instead. Why? What good are these disks if they don't have the most basic of commands? Only live systems offer more than the holographic shell when booted properly. FreeSBIE has been a very good live system in the past, but the current installers also allow you to drop into a working shell environment at a very early stage (from within bsdinstall). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall/b sdinstall-choose-mode.png This dialog should bring you into a working shell. I've been using it myself for disk initialization with a FreeBSD 9.1 CD. Thanks, Polytropon. I couldn't get FrieSBIE to work. Hung up. Used mfsBSD instead. Had to use 8.X because 9.X hangs. I think it has something to do with my PS2 mouse and keyboard. Trying to clone a hard disk that has an number of bad sectors. Trying to save most of my data. A good approach. If possible, try to obtain a 1:1 copy of the disk (or partition) and work with that. Check the mailing list archives for further inspiration. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Start Here to Find It Fast! - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $9.99 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why no ls on DVD or livefs.iso?
At 08:47 10/6/2013, Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote: Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. Very limited commands: ls: not found. Why? What good are these disks if they don't have the most basic of commands? The emergency holographic shell was always very limited. I suspect a path thing, with it looking for commands on the installed system. Old bare-bones tricks like echo * help. Trying to clone a hard disk that has an number of bad sectors. Trying to save most of my data. Want to use recoverdisk, but can't get the command line to work. Use mfsBSD: http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ Thanks, Warren. MFSBSD worked for me. Had to use 8.X because 9.X hangs. I think it has something to do with my PS2 mouse and keyboard. 9.X still only seems to work with USB peripherals--or is something else going on? I was a bit skittish using recoverdisk because I couldn't find any explicit notation about source and target. # clone a hard disk recoverdisk /dev/ad3 /dev/ad4 As it turns out, the first argument is the source and the second is the target, as one might intuitively guess. However, I've been burned before by guesses, so I hope someone will update the man pages to make this obvious. Start Here to Find It Fast! - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $9.99 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why no ls on DVD or livefs.iso?
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote: At 08:47 10/6/2013, Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote: Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. Very limited commands: ls: not found. Why? What good are these disks if they don't have the most basic of commands? The emergency holographic shell was always very limited. I suspect a path thing, with it looking for commands on the installed system. Old bare-bones tricks like echo * help. Trying to clone a hard disk that has an number of bad sectors. Trying to save most of my data. Want to use recoverdisk, but can't get the command line to work. Use mfsBSD: http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ Thanks, Warren. MFSBSD worked for me. Had to use 8.X because 9.X hangs. I think it has something to do with my PS2 mouse and keyboard. 9.X still only seems to work with USB peripherals--or is something else going on? I was a bit skittish using recoverdisk because I couldn't find any explicit notation about source and target. # clone a hard disk recoverdisk /dev/ad3 /dev/ad4 As it turns out, the first argument is the source and the second is the target, as one might intuitively guess. However, I've been burned before by guesses, so I hope someone will update the man pages to make this obvious. It says recoverdisk [-b bigsize] [-r readlist] [-s interval] [-w writelist] source [destination] That seems pretty clear, although the text does not really explain what happens if the optional destination is not given. Output to stdout would be the standard expectation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why no ls on DVD or livefs.iso?
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:45:58 -0500, W. D. wrote: Thanks, Polytropon. I couldn't get FrieSBIE to work. It's a rather old project, and as far as I know, it isn't being continued anymore. It should still support at least the CLI mode for most computers... (I have to admit that I'm still using it, but usually on _older_ computers where it often works flawlessly.) Hung up. Used mfsBSD instead. Good choice. :-) Had to use 8.X because 9.X hangs. I think it has something to do with my PS2 mouse and keyboard. Can't imagine _that_ as a cause of OS hangs, but it might still be a hardware compatibility or configuration problem. If v8 works for you - no problem, it's still supported. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Why no ls on DVD or livefs.iso?
Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. Very limited commands: ls: not found. Why? What good are these disks if they don't have the most basic of commands? Trying to clone a hard disk that has an number of bad sectors. Trying to save most of my data. Want to use recoverdisk, but can't get the command line to work. Any ideas? === # clone a hard disk recoverdisk /dev/ad3 /dev/ad4 === Start Here to Find It Fast! - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $9.99 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why no ls on DVD or livefs.iso?
On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 01:29:19 -0500, W. D. wrote: Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. Very limited commands: ls: not found. Try /rescue/ls explicitely instead. Why? What good are these disks if they don't have the most basic of commands? Only live systems offer more than the holographic shell when booted properly. FreeSBIE has been a very good live system in the past, but the current installers also allow you to drop into a working shell environment at a very early stage (from within bsdinstall). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall/bsdinstall-choose-mode.png This dialog should bring you into a working shell. I've been using it myself for disk initialization with a FreeBSD 9.1 CD. Trying to clone a hard disk that has an number of bad sectors. Trying to save most of my data. A good approach. If possible, try to obtain a 1:1 copy of the disk (or partition) and work with that. Check the mailing list archives for further inspiration. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why no ls on DVD or livefs.iso?
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote: Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. Very limited commands: ls: not found. Why? What good are these disks if they don't have the most basic of commands? The emergency holographic shell was always very limited. I suspect a path thing, with it looking for commands on the installed system. Old bare-bones tricks like echo * help. Trying to clone a hard disk that has an number of bad sectors. Trying to save most of my data. Want to use recoverdisk, but can't get the command line to work. Use mfsBSD: http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org