Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
Finally, I have done it. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/de-tube On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 19:08 -0400, Quartz wrote: I can work around this by downloading the files with clive and watching with mplayer, but I'd like to make this work again. To be honest, this is really the best solution for all platforms, win/mac/bsd/etc. I don't have flash installed on any of my machines: I use a plugin that downloads the mp4 and auto opens it in a local video player. This always works, you can jump/rewind without constant buffering, you don't have to deal with ads, and you don't have to deal with flash maxing out your cpu for no reason. __ it has a certain smooth-brained appeal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
I had written an extension, it replaces the original youtube player. Now it's beta version (at least it has a name...), there is no setup, no preferences, it just replaces youtube player to videoHere the best quality/video. Code (don't even try to use master branch): https://github.com/paranormal/detube/tree/working Zip: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/de-tube/ You are free to install this addon and blame me. There another addon (written by Sukant Garg): https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/save-my-youtube-day On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:39 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: hello, world\n I have trouble playing Youtube videos in flash format in Firefox. This has worked in the past, but for a few weeks now, the flash videos display as a b/w noise background picture with a message centered To render this video you need the Adobe Flash Player. Install latest Flash Player. Has Youtube conspired against me, you, FreeBSD, the world? :-) I'm wondering if I have screwed up something. I'm running 9.1-STABLE as of a few days ago, with up-to-date ports of emulators/linux_base-f10, www/linux-f10-flashplugin11 and www/nspluginwrapper ports on FF20.0. about:plugins says this: Shockwave Flash File: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Version: Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 MIME TypeDescription Suffixes application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf application/futuresplashFutureSplash Player spl Since I haven't heard the FreeBSD community screaming Gimme back my Youtube!!!1!, I'll bite. What could the problem be? Is anyone else but me able to play flash, like for example The true science of multiple universes in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg ? Other types play just fine, like Pt1gard's 10-Question Apollo Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ I can work around this by downloading the files with clive and watching with mplayer, but I'd like to make this work again. Regards, Jens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
2013-04-09 12:22, Polytropon skrev:
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:15:35 +0200, Harald Weis wrote:
I've also seen that the '-h' option did tell a lot of things, except the
the reqirement to quote the URL...
This is something you'll find in man csh or man bash. :-)
Now I get the following:
me@pollux:~ % youtube-dl -v http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xuubjIrYkc;
[debug] Proxy map: {}
[youtube] Setting language
[youtube] 6xuubjIrYkc: Downloading video webpage
[youtube] 6xuubjIrYkc: Downloading video info webpage
[youtube] 6xuubjIrYkc: Extracting video information
ERROR: unable to download video
me@pollux:~ %
You should see something like this instead:
% youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xuubjIrYkc;
[youtube] Setting language
[youtube] 6xuubjIrYkc: Downloading video webpage
[youtube] 6xuubjIrYkc: Downloading video info webpage
[youtube] 6xuubjIrYkc: Extracting video information
[download] Destination: 6xuubjIrYkc.flv
[download] 1.9% of 482.49M at 180.22k/s ETA 44:49
...
and so on.
Or something like this.
% youtube-dl -t 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xuubjIrYkc'
[youtube] Setting language
[youtube] 6xuubjIrYkc: Downloading video webpage
[youtube] 6xuubjIrYkc: Downloading video info webpage
[youtube] 6xuubjIrYkc: Extracting video information
[download] Destination: Pat Metheny - Secret Story-6xuubjIrYkc.flv
[download] 0.9% of 482.49M at 457.60k/s ETA 17:50
Unable(!) to see the reason.
What version are you running?
I have youtube_dl-2012.09.27 here, not the most recent one.
Sometimes there is a problem when your version has been
obsoleted by something YouTube did change.
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Re: [Solved] Youtube Flash Videos broken?
Le Sun, 7 Apr 2013 13:38:55 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt schwe...@schweikhardt.net a écrit : # We've had a thread about it in the forums, with a couple of workarounds: # http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=38627 Thanks for this helpful link. It contained the solution to my problem: 1) In about:config, set dom.ipc.plugins.enabled to false 2) Exit and restart Firefox (really, just doing 1) did not work). Cool that works here too, nice. Thanks. I'm sure I was able to watch the following Youtube video without trick on 18 march 2013 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re9TpkdTYGw Without dom.ipc.plugins.enabled=false, Youtube says that flash is not installed. (9.1-STABLE/amd64, firefox-17.0.4,1 (firefox-esr), linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.275) Regards. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [Solved] Youtube Flash Videos broken?
El día Monday, April 08, 2013 a las 11:04:41AM +0200, Patrick Lamaiziere escribió: Le Sun, 7 Apr 2013 13:38:55 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt schwe...@schweikhardt.net a écrit : # We've had a thread about it in the forums, with a couple of workarounds: # http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=38627 Thanks for this helpful link. It contained the solution to my problem: 1) In about:config, set dom.ipc.plugins.enabled to false 2) Exit and restart Firefox (really, just doing 1) did not work). Cool that works here too, nice. Thanks. I helped me as well. Can someone give a bit light of explanation what the parameter does in detail and why it should be set to 'false'? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: g...@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [Solved] Youtube Flash Videos broken?
in message 20130408093145.GA3009@tinyCurrent, wrote Matthias Apitz thusly... El día Monday, April 08, 2013 a las 11:04:41AM +0200, Patrick Lamaiziere escribió: Le Sun, 7 Apr 2013 13:38:55 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt schwe...@schweikhardt.net a écrit : # We've had a thread about it in the forums, with a couple of workarounds: # http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=38627 Thanks for this helpful link. It contained the solution to my problem: 1) In about:config, set dom.ipc.plugins.enabled to false 2) Exit and restart Firefox (really, just doing 1) did not work). Cool that works here too, nice. Thanks. I helped me as well. Can someone give a bit light of explanation what the parameter does in detail and why it should be set to 'false'? Thanks An explanation on Adobe forum ... http://forums.adobe.com/thread/666110 32d reply ... ... The crash protection feature in Firefox 3.6 is enabled for certain plugins only. The four preferences that we modified here specifies four different out-of-process plugins. They are the the NPAPI test plugin, Adobe Flash, Apple QuickTime (Windows) and Microsoft Silverlight (Windows). These plugins are specified in a separate dom.ipc.plugins.enabled.filename preference by default is set to true. We can disable them by changing their value to false. And thus plugin-container.exe will not run. By default the preference dom.ipc.plugins.enabled is already set to false. So, no need to touch it. The dom.ipc.plugins.timeoutSecs is also not important here as other values are false. Similar is on ... (skip to bottom) https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/707085 (Also, I was reminded of perlipc pod related to inter-process communication in Perl.) -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 12:09:32AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: If it's just about YouTube video, why not use youtube-dl and mplayer? I haven't tested it for those particular two videos, but it tends to work for everything. :-) Can you please help me how to find the right URLs for youtube-dl ? For example on http://www.youtube.com/user/ConcertosLive/videos When I copy URLs with mouse in opera I always get youtube-dl: No match. (opera and flash work fine for playing and also for downloading the the ogg file) I definitely prefer the command line tool. Getting rid of flash would be a tremendous relief. -- Harald Weis Versailles, France ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
Harald Weis ha...@free.fr writes: On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 12:09:32AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: If it's just about YouTube video, why not use youtube-dl and mplayer? I haven't tested it for those particular two videos, but it tends to work for everything. :-) Can you please help me how to find the right URLs for youtube-dl ? For example on http://www.youtube.com/user/ConcertosLive/videos When I copy URLs with mouse in opera I always get youtube-dl: No match. (opera and flash work fine for playing and also for downloading the the ogg file) I definitely prefer the command line tool. Getting rid of flash would be a tremendous relief. Right-click on one of the video icons, select copy link address and the cut buffer will contain the URL. Depending on your shell you may need to protect some of the characters from being interpreted. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On 8 April 2013 11:03, Harald Weis ha...@free.fr wrote: On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 12:09:32AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: If it's just about YouTube video, why not use youtube-dl and mplayer? I haven't tested it for those particular two videos, but it tends to work for everything. :-) Can you please help me how to find the right URLs for youtube-dl ? For example on http://www.youtube.com/user/ConcertosLive/videos When I copy URLs with mouse in opera I always get youtube-dl: No match. (opera and flash work fine for playing and also for downloading the the ogg file) I definitely prefer the command line tool. Getting rid of flash would be a tremendous relief. youtube_dl works fine with just the video id, as in: % youtube_dl -c --restrict-filenames -o '%(title)s.%(id)s.%(ext)s' De6ejDbIcOM to download http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De6ejDbIcOM (though the full url works, as well) You may want to set --max-quality 45 (or 46)* to avoid downloading a ½GB 3072p video (as with some of the HD stuff) since youtube_dl defaults to the highest quality available. *quo vide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 17:03:13 +0200, Harald Weis wrote: On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 12:09:32AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: If it's just about YouTube video, why not use youtube-dl and mplayer? I haven't tested it for those particular two videos, but it tends to work for everything. :-) Can you please help me how to find the right URLs for youtube-dl ? There is no URL. You install it from ports: # cd /usr/ports/www/youtube_dl # make install If the version in ports is not current enough (e. g. when YT has again fiddled with the format), you can usually get it from its source https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl. For example on http://www.youtube.com/user/ConcertosLive/videos When I copy URLs with mouse in opera I always get youtube-dl: No match. Make sure you use proper quoting as the URL contains characters that the shell will interpret. The common form to use youtube-dl is e. g. % youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc4ROCJYbm0; Any superflous stuff in the URL will be ignored. This is the easiest way to work, e. g. from copying the URL from the URL line or via the Copy link address function; then just type 'youtube-dl ', press the middle mouse key, '' and Enter. As youtube-dl doesn't have a manpage, you can use % youtube-dl -h to get a list of supported command line options. (opera and flash work fine for playing and also for downloading the the ogg file) That's normal. :-) I definitely prefer the command line tool. What I like about this approach is that I can watch films in a usable (!) environment, which is mplayer, and not be dependent on some low-quality web player plugin. It's also nice to have interesting videos stored on the local disk so they can be watched without Internet connection. :-) Getting rid of flash would be a tremendous relief. It will happen, as soon as HTML5 is adopted more widely (currently happening especially for rich web content and the mobile market) and lawyers agree on a usable media codec. But for now, I don't actually see any problems running Flash if it is _intended_ to do so. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
Please excuse the top post, bujt you're the right guy to ask, polyt. mp3/audio files I can get. you sent me a website to get mp3's off youtube. it is probably patry my ubuntu linux and gnome, but is there a canned website that will grab a video? somebody has a Lot of westerns and I'd like to grab a couple. we can get 70 billion channels with barf comcast, but I dont see any of these old/old/old movies. [ several zillion tx. ] gary ps: yeah, I KNOW they are ===mostly=== mythic. but sometimes I just need to take a bleeping break. and so far, nothingg works. On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 03:58:30AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 17:03:13 +0200, Harald Weis wrote: On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 12:09:32AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: If it's just about YouTube video, why not use youtube-dl and mplayer? I haven't tested it for those particular two videos, but it tends to work for everything. :-) Can you please help me how to find the right URLs for youtube-dl ? There is no URL. You install it from ports: # cd /usr/ports/www/youtube_dl # make install If the version in ports is not current enough (e. g. when YT has again fiddled with the format), you can usually get it from its source https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl. For example on http://www.youtube.com/user/ConcertosLive/videos When I copy URLs with mouse in opera I always get youtube-dl: No match. Make sure you use proper quoting as the URL contains characters that the shell will interpret. The common form to use youtube-dl is e. g. % youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc4ROCJYbm0; Any superflous stuff in the URL will be ignored. This is the easiest way to work, e. g. from copying the URL from the URL line or via the Copy link address function; then just type 'youtube-dl ', press the middle mouse key, '' and Enter. As youtube-dl doesn't have a manpage, you can use % youtube-dl -h to get a list of supported command line options. (opera and flash work fine for playing and also for downloading the the ogg file) That's normal. :-) I definitely prefer the command line tool. What I like about this approach is that I can watch films in a usable (!) environment, which is mplayer, and not be dependent on some low-quality web player plugin. It's also nice to have interesting videos stored on the local disk so they can be watched without Internet connection. :-) Getting rid of flash would be a tremendous relief. It will happen, as soon as HTML5 is adopted more widely (currently happening especially for rich web content and the mobile market) and lawyers agree on a usable media codec. But for now, I don't actually see any problems running Flash if it is _intended_ to do so. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
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Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 03:38:16AM +, Walter Hurry wrote: On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 20:28:15 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Please excuse the top post Why? because most or all email is presented in oldest posts first. it is more work to decode. [[ esp'ly if you're o lder than dirt, like me! ]] -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:57:47 +0200 Ralf Mardorf articulated: On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:53 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:39 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg Firefox 20.0 Arch Linux x86_64 can't play this video too. Neither flash, nor gnash installed. Perhaps it's a video with a commercial, before the video can be watched? Wicked! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ Video and audio are ok for this video, still without flash or gnash. Perhaps we should switch to Windows :D. SICR I have pretty much given up on using Firefox with FreeBSD on sites that utilize Flash. It usually just sucks. Sites like comedy Central are just not view-able utilizing that combination. I use my Windows PC or Laptop for those times. Plus, I can keep Flash and or Java up-to-date far easier. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:57:47 +0200 Ralf Mardorf articulated: On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:53 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:39 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg Firefox 20.0 Arch Linux x86_64 can't play this video too. Neither flash, nor gnash installed. Perhaps it's a video with a commercial, before the video can be watched? Wicked! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ Video and audio are ok for this video, still without flash or gnash. Perhaps we should switch to Windows :D. SICR I have pretty much given up on using Firefox with FreeBSD on sites that utilize Flash. It usually just sucks. Sites like comedy Central are just not view-able utilizing that combination. I use my Windows PC or Laptop for those times. Plus, I can keep Flash and or Java up-to-date far easier. Nearly the same here: I'm keeping two virtual machines on my FreeBSD laptop: a Windows 7 and a Linux one, and I'm starting the Win7 VM when I stumble across that oddball Flash-only website that would not even display on the Linux VM. This way, I'm keeping a clean and lean FreeBSD environment, unpolluted by tons of Linuxulator compat libraries needed just to make that flash plugin work. Plus, it's easier to reset the Win7 VM to a previous virus-free stage after each use... even though something like this http://www.qubes-os.org/trac would be even better, I assume. ;) -- Jerry ♔ -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sun, 2013-04-07 at 06:21 -0400, Jerry wrote: On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:57:47 +0200 Ralf Mardorf articulated: On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:53 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:39 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg Firefox 20.0 Arch Linux x86_64 can't play this video too. Neither flash, nor gnash installed. Perhaps it's a video with a commercial, before the video can be watched? Wicked! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ Video and audio are ok for this video, still without flash or gnash. Perhaps we should switch to Windows :D. SICR I have pretty much given up on using Firefox with FreeBSD on sites that utilize Flash. It usually just sucks. Sites like comedy Central are just not view-able utilizing that combination. I use my Windows PC or Laptop for those times. Plus, I can keep Flash and or Java up-to-date far easier. I never needed to use Windows, I could switch from the Atari ST to *nix around ten years ago, but since around 1½ years I need to run Windows in VBox. I planed to start making music on Friday, now it's Sunday noon and I still couldn't start, because I still need to fix issues. However, I experienced less issues with *nix software, usually I run into issues regarding to hardware. Fortunately I don't care about the flash issue, if tube videos don't work, I don't watch tube videos and if flash should be needed for something else on a homepage, it for sure isn't a homepage I want to visit. Usually web pages for *nix are programmed like http://www.freebsd.org/ and very seldom like http://linux-audio.com/ but even this site doesn't expect flash. Serious homepages, e.g. from departments, usually are good programmed and commercial homepages, e.g. from the porn industry, are usually bad programmed. If users would stop visiting bad programmed sites, we would get better programmed websites, so IMO we shouldn't fix the issues others cause, it's their task to fix their websites. 2 Cents, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[Solved] Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 05:53:17PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: # On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: # # I have trouble playing Youtube videos in flash format in Firefox. This # has worked in the past, but for a few weeks now, the flash videos # display as a b/w noise background picture with a message centered To # render this video you need the Adobe Flash Player. Install latest Flash # Player. Has Youtube conspired against me, you, FreeBSD, the world? :-) # # We've had a thread about it in the forums, with a couple of workarounds: # http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=38627 Thanks for this helpful link. It contained the solution to my problem: 1) In about:config, set dom.ipc.plugins.enabled to false 2) Exit and restart Firefox (really, just doing 1) did not work). Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:05:19 +0200 Ralf Mardorf articulated: On Sun, 2013-04-07 at 06:21 -0400, Jerry wrote: On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:57:47 +0200 Ralf Mardorf articulated: On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:53 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:39 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg Firefox 20.0 Arch Linux x86_64 can't play this video too. Neither flash, nor gnash installed. Perhaps it's a video with a commercial, before the video can be watched? Wicked! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ Video and audio are ok for this video, still without flash or gnash. Perhaps we should switch to Windows :D. SICR I have pretty much given up on using Firefox with FreeBSD on sites that utilize Flash. It usually just sucks. Sites like comedy Central are just not view-able utilizing that combination. I use my Windows PC or Laptop for those times. Plus, I can keep Flash and or Java up-to-date far easier. I never needed to use Windows, I could switch from the Atari ST to *nix around ten years ago, but since around 1½ years I need to run Windows in VBox. I planed to start making music on Friday, now it's Sunday noon and I still couldn't start, because I still need to fix issues. However, I experienced less issues with *nix software, usually I run into issues regarding to hardware. Fortunately I don't care about the flash issue, if tube videos don't work, I don't watch tube videos and if flash should be needed for something else on a homepage, it for sure isn't a homepage I want to visit. Usually web pages for *nix are programmed like http://www.freebsd.org/ and very seldom like http://linux-audio.com/ but even this site doesn't expect flash. Serious homepages, e.g. from departments, usually are good programmed and commercial homepages, e.g. from the porn industry, are usually bad programmed. If users would stop visiting bad programmed sites, we would get better programmed websites, so IMO we shouldn't fix the issues others cause, it's their task to fix their websites. This site: http://aattp.org/watch-jon-stewart-annihilate-anti-gun-control-arguments-in-this-amazing-daily-show-clip-video/ plays fine on Windows using either IE or Firefox. It also works on Ubuntu. However, it bombs out with FreeBSD and Firefox. I haven't had an opportunity to try it on a Linux system yet.. The bottom line is where exactly does the problem exist. FreeBSD users love to blame everyone else for their problems; however, is that actually the problem here or is it something else? Using Flash is way harder than it needs to be on FreeBSD. You hear FreeBSD users who claim that they never use Flash, which in itself is an interesting statement. If it doesn't work, then obviously you cannot take advantage of it. I suspect at least 50% of them are liars. The rest are more than likely expressing their sour-grapes wrath. The real goal should be to get it working and working correctly and as easily as other Operating Systems have. The world is not going to adapt to your specifications, you have to adapt to its or else fall by the wayside. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Youtube Flash Videos broken?
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Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sun, 2013-04-07 at 07:44 -0400, Jerry wrote: You hear FreeBSD users who claim that they never use Flash, which in itself is an interesting statement. If it doesn't work, then obviously you cannot take advantage of it. I suspect at least 50% of them are liars. The rest are more than likely expressing their sour-grapes wrath. No, I guess at least for media players you're mistaken. I was born in 1966 and a lot of people from my generation still own a television set, turntables etc.. Not seldom I watch several hours television at one day. I guess after watching 4 hours television, it's not hard to spare flash on the computer ;). Yes, you can miss interesting stuff without flash, but you also will miss interesting things, if you watch too much videos. In the past I used flash, I tested gnash first, but I preferred the proprietary thingy. It started as an experiment when I installed Arch Linux some weeks ago and I noticed that I can live without flash. However, I only need to run one command to get flash and on Linux AFAIK it doesn't cause issues until now. $ yaourt flashplayer 1 extra/flashplugin 11.2.202.275-1 Adobe Flash Player 2 aur/bin32-flashplayer-standalone 11.2.202.275-1 (5) Macromedia standalone flash player (nonfree) 3 aur/flashplayer-standalone 11.2.202.275-1 (134) Macromedia standalone flash player (nonfree) 4 aur/flashplayer-standalone-debug 11.2.202.275-1 (7) Standalone, debug version of Adobe Flash Player 5 aur/gnash-git 20120122-1 (Out of Date) (3) An open source flashplayer - git version == Enter n° of packages to be installed (ex: 1 2 3 or 1-3) == --- == ^C I even don't know if I have flash on FreeBSD installed, since I more often use Linux. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 07:44:30 -0400, Jerry wrote: This site: http://aattp.org/watch-jon-stewart-annihilate-anti-gun-control-arguments-in-this-amazing-daily-show-clip-video/ plays fine on Windows using either IE or Firefox. It also works on Ubuntu. However, it bombs out with FreeBSD and Firefox. I haven't had an opportunity to try it on a Linux system yet.. Strange. Very strange. What am I doing wrong for all the years? Even though this page is slow as (insert slow stuff) on loading and polluted with ads, it plays totally fine with Opera, installed in summer 2011. This is since almost 3 years ago. Using Flash is way harder than it needs to be on FreeBSD. You are right about this. It should be a selectable (switchable) function of the browser. Do you have a proprietary plugin to have text in blue color? One to display PNG images? Another one to render text centered? No? If Flash is used instead of HTML, or as an excuse for not being able or willing to use HTML properly, and if lawyers keep fighting their patent war on codecs, then Flash is not the problem per se - it's the way it is (ab)used. Imagine you could treat it as a first class browser functionality. Like displaying images or rendering text. You want to use it? It's already part of the browser, properly maintained to work with the browser, indepdent of lower-level system components. You do _not_ want to see any Flash stuff? One click to disable it. That would be the ideal solution, as it is possible with _everything else_ except Flash. You hear FreeBSD users who claim that they never use Flash, which in itself is an interesting statement. No, it's not that interesting. For example, I have kept two browsers in the past: Firefox with no Flash, and Opera with Flash. So whenever a non-Flash experience was desired, I just switched the browser, and no Flash has been used. Also, for specific things, using programs to download video and then watch it locally with mplayer (much more comfortable than all those web players) has been possible for many years. If it doesn't work, then obviously you cannot take advantage of it. I suspect at least 50% of them are liars. The rest are more than likely expressing their sour-grapes wrath. That's quite possible. The real goal should be to get it working and working correctly and as easily as other Operating Systems have. I actually don't know where the problem is: It _is_ working correctly and easily as on other operating systems and even in comparison to Windows. The world is not going to adapt to your specifications, you have to adapt to its or else fall by the wayside. And those who _always_ go with the flow will never reach the source. ;-) To educated people, Flash is just a tool, and they can answer the question what it is good for, and what it is not the tool for, and additionally how to properly use it. Considering that Flash has had 4 hits among the top 10 of security threats, like Gain access to a system and execute arbitrary code with local user privileges. Gain access to sensitive data. Highly Critical. and Gain access to a system and execute arbitrary code with local user privileges. Bypass security systems. Gain access to sensitive data. Extremely Critical., there might be a reason not to use it - it depends. It _always_ depends. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:05:19 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: If users would stop visiting bad programmed sites, we would get better programmed websites, so IMO we shouldn't fix the issues others cause, it's their task to fix their websites. There's hope in browsers implementing the Flash-like functionalities using HTML5, which has become important due to the growing markets in tablets and smartphones (the mobile web where Flash doesn't play a significant role). One of the problems is media codecs (where lawyers fight), another one is the availability of design and development environments for non-technical users who normally use pirated copies of some Adobe programs to create Flash content for (or instead of) HTML-based web pages. Those who actually _pay_ for their tools often tend to deliver a much better user experience even by using Flash. As I said, it's just a tool, but a tool by itself doesn't get the work done, you need to properly use it. Flash is already on its way into the coffin, it will be much more profitable (and essential to stay in business) to publish content in a more portable way. In my opinion, HTML5 is the way to go, as soon as they got the mentioned main problems out of the way. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Youtube Flash Videos broken?
hello, world\n I have trouble playing Youtube videos in flash format in Firefox. This has worked in the past, but for a few weeks now, the flash videos display as a b/w noise background picture with a message centered To render this video you need the Adobe Flash Player. Install latest Flash Player. Has Youtube conspired against me, you, FreeBSD, the world? :-) I'm wondering if I have screwed up something. I'm running 9.1-STABLE as of a few days ago, with up-to-date ports of emulators/linux_base-f10, www/linux-f10-flashplugin11 and www/nspluginwrapper ports on FF20.0. about:plugins says this: Shockwave Flash File: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Version: Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 MIME TypeDescription Suffixes application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf application/futuresplashFutureSplash Player spl Since I haven't heard the FreeBSD community screaming Gimme back my Youtube!!!1!, I'll bite. What could the problem be? Is anyone else but me able to play flash, like for example The true science of multiple universes in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg ? Other types play just fine, like Pt1gard's 10-Question Apollo Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ I can work around this by downloading the files with clive and watching with mplayer, but I'd like to make this work again. Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:39 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg Firefox 20.0 Arch Linux x86_64 can't play this video too. Neither flash, nor gnash installed. Perhaps it's a video with a commercial, before the video can be watched? Wicked! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ Video and audio are ok for this video, still without flash or gnash. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:53 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:39 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg Firefox 20.0 Arch Linux x86_64 can't play this video too. Neither flash, nor gnash installed. Perhaps it's a video with a commercial, before the video can be watched? Wicked! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ Video and audio are ok for this video, still without flash or gnash. Perhaps we should switch to Windows :D. SICR ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:39:11 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: Since I haven't heard the FreeBSD community screaming Gimme back my Youtube!!!1!, I'll bite. What could the problem be? Is anyone else but me able to play flash, like for example The true science of multiple universes in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg ? The video has a ad overlay (can skip after a few seconds), video itself plays fine here. Note that I'm providing you this reference from the past: I'm using Opera with the Linux Flash plugin (installed as described in the handbook), and the versions are opera-11.50, opera-linuxplugins-11.50, and linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.5, installed in summer 2011. So I haven't changed things, and it still works, because the rule is: Never touch a running system. ;-) Other types play just fine, like Pt1gard's 10-Question Apollo Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ Yes, plays fine. I can work around this by downloading the files with clive and watching with mplayer, but I'd like to make this work again. If it's just about YouTube video, why not use youtube-dl and mplayer? I haven't tested it for those particular two videos, but it tends to work for everything. :-) I cannot provide a reference regarding Firefox (with Flash installed as described in the Handbook) because it freezes mny system (faulty GPU). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
I can work around this by downloading the files with clive and watching with mplayer, but I'd like to make this work again. To be honest, this is really the best solution for all platforms, win/mac/bsd/etc. I don't have flash installed on any of my machines: I use a plugin that downloads the mp4 and auto opens it in a local video player. This always works, you can jump/rewind without constant buffering, you don't have to deal with ads, and you don't have to deal with flash maxing out your cpu for no reason. __ it has a certain smooth-brained appeal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: I have trouble playing Youtube videos in flash format in Firefox. This has worked in the past, but for a few weeks now, the flash videos display as a b/w noise background picture with a message centered To render this video you need the Adobe Flash Player. Install latest Flash Player. Has Youtube conspired against me, you, FreeBSD, the world? :-) We've had a thread about it in the forums, with a couple of workarounds: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=38627 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
in message 20130407000932.678efc0d.free...@edvax.de, wrote Polytropon thusly... On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:39:11 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: ... Is anyone else but me able to play flash, like for example The true science of multiple universes in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg ? The video has a ad overlay (can skip after a few seconds), video itself plays fine here. Note that I'm providing you this reference from the past: I'm using Opera with the Linux Flash plugin (installed as described in the handbook), and the versions are opera-11.50, opera-linuxplugins-11.50, and linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.5, installed in summer 2011. The video played fine in Firefox (firefox-17.0.3,1) Shockwave Flash (11.1 r102) plugin (there is also a FutureSplash Player plugin). Initially there was a purple window with small circular (play) button but nothing was being displayed; audio of the original video started playing by itself. Few seconds later, the purple window disappeared. Opera (opera-12.14), OTOH, reported that flash plugin (opera-linuxplugins-12.14; linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.275) crashed. Other types play just fine, like Pt1gard's 10-Question Apollo Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ Yes, plays fine. No problem here either with either of the browsers. - parv -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
in message 5160aaf9.2020...@sneakertech.com, wrote Quartz thusly... I can work around this by downloading the files with clive and watching with mplayer, but I'd like to make this work again. To be honest, this is really the best solution for all platforms, win/mac/bsd/etc. I don't have flash installed on any of my machines: I use a plugin that downloads the mp4 and auto opens it in a local video player. Is the plugin that you speak of called Download YouTube Videos as MP4? I have tried some extensions -- e.g. Flash and Video Download, Download Helper -- that require a bit of video to be played initially before it can be downloaded (outside of YouTube; for YouTube videos, I prefer to use youtube_dl). - Parv -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 15:23:49 -1000, Parv wrote: I have tried some extensions -- e.g. Flash and Video Download, Download Helper -- that require a bit of video to be played initially before it can be downloaded (outside of YouTube; for YouTube videos, I prefer to use youtube_dl). Yes, Download Helper is very prominent in combination with Firefox. However, it requires interactivity within the browser. In case that's not desired, youtube-dl can help. For non-YT-videos, get-flash-videos (a per script) works in many cases. The result FLV file can be played comfortably with mplayer. I'm not sure in how far this combination can be integrated with the web browser... Again, it's worth noting that you should not touch a running system. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
