Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
Selected releases (normally every second release plus the last release from each -STABLE branch) will be supported by the Security Officer for a minimum of 24 months after the release, and for sufficient additional time (if needed) to ensure that there is a newer Extended release for at least 3 months before the older Extended release expires. OK for some reason I made the perhaps incorrect assumption that 7.2 was the last release in the 7.x line. I don't know where I got that from, but I do seem to recall seeing that somewhere. Could be wrong. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
2009/10/12 Nerius Landys nlan...@gmail.com Selected releases (normally every second release plus the last release from each -STABLE branch) will be supported by the Security Officer for a minimum of 24 months after the release, and for sufficient additional time (if needed) to ensure that there is a newer Extended release for at least 3 months before the older Extended release expires. OK for some reason I made the perhaps incorrect assumption that 7.2 was the last release in the 7.x line. I don't know where I got that from, but I do seem to recall seeing that somewhere. Could be wrong. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ive seen 7.3 mentioned on release engineering docs. I doubt whether it will go further than that though ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
2009/10/10 Jerry ges...@yahoo.com On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:06:39 -0400 jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote: [snip] I will agree with that. And raise that its not a good idea to be part of the early adopter club for commercial use. Somebody has got to go first. As so aptly stated by Robert Crandell, chairman of American Airlines in the late 1990's, If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these. Ovid (43 B.C. - A.D. 18) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org hmm most of us in here aren't business men though. We are sysadmins, and therefore the only thing we'd be risking is our job. Most people most of the time don't need cutting edge features no matter how cool they are. Its all about risk management. By that I don't mean eliminating risk and stagnating, I mean taking appropriate risk for the application. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
Nerius Landys wrote: My 2 cents, as far as I know 7.1 will be maintained longer than 7.2 according to the freebsd.org website. That is, security fixes will be rolled out for 7.1 a while after 7.2 reaches End Of Life. That made me decide to go with 7.1 when I had to make the switch from 7.0 a few months ago. 8.0 was not out at that time. I don't think that is correct. There must be something unclear there. http://security.freebsd.org/ Near the bottom of the page mentioned above, there is a table. RELENG_7_1 EoL is January 31, 2011, RELENG_7_2 EoL is May 31, 2010 according to the chart. That is a difference of 8 months. All of these seems to be correct, but it needs a little note. The last version from the X-STABLE branch gets the Extended lifetime support. 7.2 is definitely not the latest release from the stable/7 branch, and that is the reason why it has shorter support life time. There, however, will be at least 7.3 which will potentially get longer support. And upgrading to 7.3 from 7.2 will surely not be a big deal. If you read the mentioned web page more carefully, you will see the following paragraph: Extended Selected releases (normally every second release plus the last release from each -STABLE branch) will be supported by the Security Officer for a minimum of 24 months after the release, and for sufficient additional time (if needed) to ensure that there is a newer Extended release for at least 3 months before the older Extended release expires. -- S pozdravom / Best regards Daniel Gerzo, FreeBSD committer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
2009/10/10 牛粥 b...@izb.knu.ac.kr Marwan Sultan wrote: Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm for many years. But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql.. IMHO, i think that you should wait until 8.0-R out. Sincerely, -- Byung-Hee HWANG ∑ WWW: http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/ http://izb.knu.ac.kr/%7Ebh/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Never ideal to play the waiting game, as there is always something bigger and better round the corner. Best to go with something tried and tested. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:46, kraduk@ wrote: 2009/10/10 ?? b...@izb.knu.ac.kr Marwan Sultan wrote: Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm for many years. But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql.. IMHO, i think that you should wait until 8.0-R out. Sincerely, Never ideal to play the waiting game, as there is always something bigger and better round the corner. Best to go with something tried and tested. I will agree with that. And raise that its not a good idea to be part of the early adopter club for commercial use. -- ;; dataix.net!jhell 2048R/89D8547E 2009-09-30 ;; BSD since FreeBSD 4.2Linux since Slackware 2.1 ;; 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:06:39 -0400 jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote: [snip] I will agree with that. And raise that its not a good idea to be part of the early adopter club for commercial use. Somebody has got to go first. As so aptly stated by Robert Crandell, chairman of American Airlines in the late 1990's, If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these. Ovid (43 B.C. - A.D. 18) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: best FBSD version for commercial use.
Thank you all for your quick replies, I will go for 7.2 and will see the progress of 8. Above all, a special thanks to FreeBSD developers. Best resgards, Marwan Sultan. Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:06:39 -0400 From: jh...@dataix.net To: kra...@googlemail.com CC: b...@izb.knu.ac.kr; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; dead_l...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:46, kraduk@ wrote: 2009/10/10 ?? b...@izb.knu.ac.kr Marwan Sultan wrote: Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm for many years. But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql.. IMHO, i think that you should wait until 8.0-R out. Sincerely, Never ideal to play the waiting game, as there is always something bigger and better round the corner. Best to go with something tried and tested. I will agree with that. And raise that its not a good idea to be part of the early adopter club for commercial use. -- ;; dataix.net!jhell 2048R/89D8547E 2009-09-30 ;; BSD since FreeBSD 4.2 Linux since Slackware 2.1 ;; 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 07:44:04PM -0700, Nerius Landys wrote: My 2 cents, as far as I know 7.1 will be maintained longer than 7.2 according to the freebsd.org website. That is, security fixes will be rolled out for 7.1 a while after 7.2 reaches End Of Life. That made me decide to go with 7.1 when I had to make the switch from 7.0 a few months ago. 8.0 was not out at that time. I don't think that is correct. There must be something unclear there. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
My 2 cents, as far as I know 7.1 will be maintained longer than 7.2 according to the freebsd.org website. That is, security fixes will be rolled out for 7.1 a while after 7.2 reaches End Of Life. That made me decide to go with 7.1 when I had to make the switch from 7.0 a few months ago. 8.0 was not out at that time. I don't think that is correct. There must be something unclear there. http://security.freebsd.org/ Near the bottom of the page mentioned above, there is a table. RELENG_7_1 EoL is January 31, 2011, RELENG_7_2 EoL is May 31, 2010 according to the chart. That is a difference of 8 months. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:40:32 +0200, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: But allow me a follow-up question: Is 8.0-RC1 already recommendable for a home desktop, or would 7.2 be the version of choice? I'm asking this because of the many improvements especially the USB subsystem has gotten in 8 which would be important for the plug and play experience for USB devices... There are a few rough edges that you may or may not hit by testing the pre-release RC versions. They are mostly related to recent work in networking code, USB disk detection at boot time and a couple of other annoyances. So if you can help with the testing of these pre-release snapshots it may be worth to prepare for at least *some* problems with the latest 8.X-STABLE code. Having said that, the release engineering team is actively working to get these issues resolved. The FreeBSD Wiki shows a list of things that the RE team know as `being fixed and still being researched' at: http://wiki.freebsd.org/8.0TODO/#head-4fd8d27523492bffb9c0064bf41575c6db8fd194 Having said that, it is worth noting that if you can _help_ by running one of the RC versions and reporting back to us, you are more than welcome. The more testing the RC versions get, the greater number of pre-release issues we will discover and fix _before_ the final images are cut. pgpIqg7Ko5pU5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:08:42 +0200, Ross Cameron abal...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Marwan Sultan dead_l...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Gurus, Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm for many years. But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql. I would definitely go with a 7.2 install (until 8.0 is marked as production ready by the fBSD dev team). Excellent advice :-) To the original poster: The place to look for information about supported releases, the latest release versions, planned release life-time and support cycles, etc. is the FreeBSD web site. If you haven't already found the relevant pages, please visit http://www.freebsd.org/releases/ and have a look around. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: best FBSD version for commercial use.
From: keram...@ceid.upatras.gr To: ross.came...@linuxpro.co.za CC: dead_l...@hotmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:41:26 +0300 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:08:42 +0200, Ross Cameron abal...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Marwan Sultan dead_l...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Gurus, Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm for many years. But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql. I would definitely go with a 7.2 install (until 8.0 is marked as production ready by the fBSD dev team). Excellent advice :-) To the original poster: And the original poster thanks you back, and thanks everyone replied or gave my email attention. Yes FBSD 7.2 could be the best for now.. Why did i send the email in the first place? some releases may have issues! I remember 5.2 and 5.1..I had problems with it. this is why i stuck to my old 4.8 also I had a new project with radius, accounting, chillispot..when i installed 7.0 things didnot work as i expected.. take a note it was identical configuration to 6.2..so i had to roll back to 6.2.. This time its a commercial use, and remote administration, so i didnot want to take the risk of having a wrong commercial version Thanks everyone. Marwan Sultan System Administrator _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
best FBSD version for commercial use.
Hello Gurus, Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm for many years. But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql.. anything i should be aware of? Advices? Thank you. Marwan _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Marwan Sultan dead_l...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Gurus, Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm for many years. But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql.. anything i should be aware of? Advices? Thank you. Marwan 7.2 6.4 is the last release in 6.x so no 6.3 unless specifically needed. 8.0 is nearly here. Do a clean install, it will be easier for you in the long run. Probably easiest to do a trial run by installing to VM first eg VirtualBox guest. You wouldn't find hardware issues, but you might work out the exact steps you'll need to take to help minimize downtime. /usr/src/UPDATING can give you some specific info. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
On Oct 9, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Marwan Sultan wrote: Hello Gurus, Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm for many years. But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql.. anything i should be aware of? Advices? Thank you. Marwan Recommend sticking with 7.x branch until 8.0 has been through one or two solid releases. Then you should be able to perform a csup and rebuild the world to the current version of 8.x at the time. Regards, Mikel King CEO, Olivent Technologies Senior Editor, BSD News Network Columnist, BSD Magazine 6 Alpine Court, Medford, NY 11763 o: 631.627.3055 skype:mikel.king http://olivent.com http://mikelking.com http://twitter.com/mikelking ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:04:42 -0400, Mikel King mikel.k...@olivent.com wrote: Recommend sticking with 7.x branch until 8.0 has been through one or two solid releases. Then you should be able to perform a csup and rebuild the world to the current version of 8.x at the time. So you would not recommend 8 (as RC1 at the state of the moment) for commercial use. Regarding your explaination, I do understand this. It's often mentioned that x.0 releases aren't that good. But allow me a follow-up question: Is 8.0-RC1 already recommendable for a home desktop, or would 7.2 be the version of choice? I'm asking this because of the many improvements especially the USB subsystem has gotten in 8 which would be important for the plug and play experience for USB devices... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:28 -, dead_line@ wrote: Hello Gurus, Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm for many years. But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql.. anything i should be aware of? Advices? Thank you. Marwan If its of any relevance to you a major service provider pairLite is upgrading all of their servers to 7.2, See attached email for details. -- ;; dataix.net!jhell 2048R/89D8547E 2009-09-30 ;; BSD since FreeBSD 4.2Linux since Slackware 2.1 ;; 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E From jh...@5p.local Thu Oct 8 15:48:05 2009 -0400 Return-Path: m...@cbs.pair.com Return-Path: m...@cbs.pair.com Received: from dimension.5p.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dimension.5p.local (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n98K077l038552 for jh...@localhost; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:01:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from m...@cbs.pair.com) Delivered-To: jhellent...@gmail.com Received: from gmail-pop.l.google.com [74.125.65.109] by dimension.5p.local with POP3 (fetchmail-6.3.11) for jh...@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 10.204.77.142 with SMTP id g14cs59270bkk; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.128.9 with SMTP id a9mr875658agd.117.1255031286234; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cbs.pair.com (cbs.pair.com [66.39.3.3]) by mx.google.com with SMTP id 33si516696iwn.123.2009.10.08.12.48.05; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of m...@cbs.pair.com designates 66.39.3.3 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.39.3.3; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of m...@cbs.pair.com designates 66.39.3.3 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=m...@cbs.pair.com Received: (qmail 87941 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 19:48:05 - Date: 8 Oct 2009 19:48:05 - Message-ID: 20091008194805.87939.qm...@cbs.pair.com From: pairLite Support supp...@pairlite.com To: jhellent...@gmail.com Subject: Server Upgrade X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.313408, version=1.2.0 X-IMAPbase: 1255121849 1 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1 Hello, This message is from pair Networks -- your Web site hosting provider. Your Web hosting server is scheduled to be upgraded within the next two weeks. Details about the upgrade are available here: http://www.pairlite.com/support/72-upgrade.html This notice relates to the upgrade of www6.pairlite.com on Wednesday, October 14, 2009. If you have any comments or questions about the upgrade, please contact supp...@pairlite.com. If you encounter any problems with your Web hosting account as a result of the upgrade, please contact urg...@pairlite.com right away. Thank you for your business and continued support! The pairLite Support team http://www.pairlite.com/support/ pair Networks, Inc. supp...@pairlite.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Marwan Sultan dead_l...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Gurus, Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm for many years. But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql. I would definitely go with a 7.2 install (until 8.0 is marked as production ready by the fBSD dev team). And if you're running on half reasonably modern hardware go with the AMD64 port. Uhm just one piece of advice though, 4.8R was released in 2003 and support for that release was ended YEARS ago. Security updates for fBSD 4.x were ended in November 2006 and you're machine has been vulnerable since. Frankly its a wonder that is hasn't been ripped to shreds and used for any number of malevolent tasks. Keeping fBSD up to date isn't a very difficult task and I would suggest that you invest the time in this task. -- Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:04:42 -0400, Mikel King mikel.k...@olivent.com wrote: Recommend sticking with 7.x branch until 8.0 has been through one or two solid releases. Then you should be able to perform a csup and rebuild the world to the current version of 8.x at the time. So you would not recommend 8 (as RC1 at the state of the moment) for commercial use. Regarding your explaination, I do understand this. It's often mentioned that x.0 releases aren't that good. But allow me a follow-up question: Is 8.0-RC1 already recommendable for a home desktop, or would 7.2 be the version of choice? I'm asking this because of the many improvements especially the USB subsystem has gotten in 8 which would be important for the plug and play experience for USB devices... 8.0 also has the ability to run www/linux-f10-flashplugin10. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
2009/10/9 Polytropon free...@edvax.de: On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:04:42 -0400, Mikel King mikel.k...@olivent.com wrote: Recommend sticking with 7.x branch until 8.0 has been through one or two solid releases. Then you should be able to perform a csup and rebuild the world to the current version of 8.x at the time. So you would not recommend 8 (as RC1 at the state of the moment) for commercial use. Regarding your explaination, I do understand this. It's often mentioned that x.0 releases aren't that good. 8.0 seems to be that good, but businesses who make their money from their computers should probably be conservative. Also, the upgrade path for 7.x to 8.x is amusingly painless, so being safe has a very low cost here. But allow me a follow-up question: Is 8.0-RC1 already recommendable for a home desktop, or would 7.2 be the version of choice? I'm asking this because of the many improvements especially the USB subsystem has gotten in 8 which would be important for the plug and play experience for USB devices... I have been using 8-CURRENT since February updating from source once or twice a week. I am without trepidation in asserting that it is frankly the best release of FreeBSD I have used. Assuming that something horrible doesn't happen between RC1 RELEASE (asteroid strike, second coming of John Holmes, land war in Asia) I wouldn't fear the *.0 syndrome. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
On Oct 9, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:04:42 -0400, Mikel King mikel.k...@olivent.com wrote: Recommend sticking with 7.x branch until 8.0 has been through one or two solid releases. Then you should be able to perform a csup and rebuild the world to the current version of 8.x at the time. So you would not recommend 8 (as RC1 at the state of the moment) for commercial use. Regarding your explaination, I do understand this. It's often mentioned that x.0 releases aren't that good. But allow me a follow-up question: Is 8.0-RC1 already recommendable for a home desktop, or would 7.2 be the version of choice? I'm asking this because of the many improvements especially the USB subsystem has gotten in 8 which would be important for the plug and play experience for USB devices... Well the general rule of thumb has always been that unless you NEED a feature of the newest version it is best to continue running the existing stable release on your mission critical production boxes. Once the current release is passed the initial .0 stage most feel it is safe to adopt it in a production environment. Sometimes this may take a little longer than expected, but I would wait until 8.1 before I put it on my mission critical production boxes. Cheers, Mikel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
2009/10/9 Mikel King mikel.k...@olivent.com On Oct 9, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:04:42 -0400, Mikel King mikel.k...@olivent.com wrote: Recommend sticking with 7.x branch until 8.0 has been through one or two solid releases. Then you should be able to perform a csup and rebuild the world to the current version of 8.x at the time. So you would not recommend 8 (as RC1 at the state of the moment) for commercial use. Regarding your explaination, I do understand this. It's often mentioned that x.0 releases aren't that good. But allow me a follow-up question: Is 8.0-RC1 already recommendable for a home desktop, or would 7.2 be the version of choice? I'm asking this because of the many improvements especially the USB subsystem has gotten in 8 which would be important for the plug and play experience for USB devices... Well the general rule of thumb has always been that unless you NEED a feature of the newest version it is best to continue running the existing stable release on your mission critical production boxes. Once the current release is passed the initial .0 stage most feel it is safe to adopt it in a production environment. Sometimes this may take a little longer than expected, but I would wait until 8.1 before I put it on my mission critical production boxes. Cheers, Mikel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org definitely stay away from the 6.x branch now that 7.x is very stable. Apart from it been out of date I found 6 had quite a few serious performance issues on SMP systems for quite a few applications. 7 generally rocks, and 8 looks even better, however isn't quite there yet. I have seen a few issues on the usb stack. I'm sure these will get fixed shorty however I wouldnt want to use it in production quite yet ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
Marwan Sultan wrote: Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm for many years. But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql.. IMHO, i think that you should wait until 8.0-R out. Sincerely, -- Byung-Hee HWANG ∑ WWW: http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best FBSD version for commercial use.
My 2 cents, as far as I know 7.1 will be maintained longer than 7.2 according to the freebsd.org website. That is, security fixes will be rolled out for 7.1 a while after 7.2 reaches End Of Life. That made me decide to go with 7.1 when I had to make the switch from 7.0 a few months ago. 8.0 was not out at that time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
