Re: changing the postion of a partion in fdisk
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 11:00:04AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 10:01:34PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:33:04PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: I have my FreeBSD partition as partition 1 and my ntfs as partition 2 but Vista insists that there is no suitable partion to install to (even though the ntfs partition is big enough)... after some research I found that vista absolutely insists that the ntfs partition be partition 1... how do I swap them and/or delete the ntfs one and renumber it so freebsd is in partion slot 2 (with nothing in 1 and then I can use fdisk to make a new slot 1) I think I should of been a little more specific the physical layout is completely correct (i.e. the sizes, start/end tracks, etc.) the only problem is the logical numbering of the partitions/slices in the mbr idea of the table... namely I just need to relabel them not modify them in any way. I don't think you can make slice 2 become slice 1. The system numbers them in order of appearance. This comes from BIOS standard usage. 2 starts before 1 in my case?!??! % fdisk *** Working on device /dev/ad8 *** parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=969021 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=969021 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 62910540, size 913857525 (446219 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 7 (0x07),(OS/2 HPFS, NTFS, QNX-2 (16 bit) or Advanced UNIX) start 63, size 62910477 (30718 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 3 is: UNUSED The data for partition 4 is: UNUSED 2 Interesting. I have never seen that before. jerry And, given this, you might try doing an fdisk to recreate those slices with the location specs that you want - that is create slice 2 with starting point and size using the beginning values and slice 1 with starting address and size following that. I am not sure the fdisk would work at all that way, but it might. Also, I wouldn't guarantee that the current contents of those slices would still be usable. They might. Doing an fdisk only modifies the slice table and not any of the data or even the partition tables for the slices which are written by bsdlabel. So, it might leave it intact. But, if you are up to experimenting, you might learn something. If you have a good backup of what you need to preserve, then the worse that could happen is you would have to start over from scratch and reinstall both Vista and FreeBSD. At that point, it becomes moot because you can put things where you want. jerry - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHhDkOjRvRjGmHRgQRAr09AJ0TCHS+emo0rp0/UBNtHKE8CxxlBQCfTz3g AFWyXr9pArXzfBsGvfRFgUQ= =HZJJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing the postion of a partion in fdisk
On 09 Jan Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 10:01:34PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: I don't think you can make slice 2 become slice 1. The system numbers them in order of appearance. This comes from BIOS standard usage. 2 starts before 1 in my case?!??! I know for sure that linux fdisk gives a warning about the disk partitions not being in the right physical order. You can change the order under expert options and write it back to disk. Partition magick is know to switch numbers on disk. Other OS's like linux but also solaris see it and offer to change it back. I'm not sure about fbsd's fdisk. Too long ago. If not, try one of those knoppix live CD's -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ | Solaris 10 / XDE ++ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing the postion of a partion in fdisk
Quoting Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have my FreeBSD partition as partition 1 and my ntfs as partition 2 but Vista insists that there is no suitable partion to install to (even though the ntfs partition is big enough)... after some research I found that vista absolutely insists that the ntfs partition be partition 1... how do I swap them and/or delete the ntfs one and renumber it so freebsd is in partion slot 2 (with nothing in 1 and then I can use fdisk to make a new slot 1) You can probably just use FreeBSD's fdisk to swap them. Something along the lines of: 1) Verify your backups 2) Boot from a FreeBSD Rescue CD and enter the fixit shell 3) Type fdisk /dev/yourdisk. I'll assume ad0 from this point. 4) Write down the output. All of it. Keep a copy in a safe place (this is actually good practice even if you're _not_ intentionally messing with your partitions). If you're feeling clever and/or lazy you could of course bring up a line printer or a network interface and print the output or copy it to another machine (from which you should then print it), but a file on the local disk will not serve (and a file on the mfsroot will go away as soon as you reboot or if anything unexpected happens, which it usually does). 5) Type fdisk -u /dev/ad0 (or whatever your disk is). Manually enter the numbers (including explicitly setting the start/end sector, etc) for partition 2 as partition 1 and vice versa. Think about which partition you want to mark as active (probably 2, see step 10) and do so. Verify your changes against your printout, then commit them. 6) Type ls /dev/ad0* and verify that you see the devices you expect (including your FreeBSD partitions, probably something like ad0s2[a-d]). 7) Mount your root partition, e.g. mount /dev/ad0s2a /mnt. If it doesn't mount then abort. Run fdisk again and change the values back to what they were initially. 8) Edit your fstab to update the slice numbers. e.g. vi /mnt/etc/fstab or sed -e s/ad0s1/ad0s2/g /mnt/etc/fstab /mnt/etc/fstab.new followed by a sanity check and a couple mv commands. 9) Unmount your root partition, e.g. umount /mnt. 10) Reboot and verify that your FreeBSD installation is still alive. 11) Carry on... This information comes with no warranty. :) JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing the postion of a partion in fdisk
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:33:04PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: I have my FreeBSD partition as partition 1 and my ntfs as partition 2 but Vista insists that there is no suitable partion to install to (even though the ntfs partition is big enough)... after some research I found that vista absolutely insists that the ntfs partition be partition 1... how do I swap them and/or delete the ntfs one and renumber it so freebsd is in partion slot 2 (with nothing in 1 and then I can use fdisk to make a new slot 1) Well, you can use fdisk from the fixit shell to make your slice 2 (note the primary divisions are called 'slices' in FreeBSD) in to a FreeBSD type and then create your FreeBSD partitions in it and build FreeBSD filesystems there. Then, still using the fixit, use dump/restore to copy the contents of the FreeBSD filesystems over. Assuming the major slices are ad0s1 and ad0s2, then something like: mkdir /oldroot mount /ad0s1a /oldroot mkdir /newroot mount /ad0s2a /newroot cd /newroot dump 0af - / | restore -rf - That will get the root partition/filesystem. Do appropriately similar for the rest of the FreeBSD filesystems. Note that while in fixit, the running root (/) is in a memory filesystem which will go away after you reboot. So, those mount points you create (oldroot, newroot, etc) are temporary. Then use a utility such as gparted (freely downloadable as ISO) to convert the #1 slice into NTFS and install Vista there. You might be able to get FreeBSD's fdisk to do the convesion to NTFS, but I have never tried that. You would have to know the code number for it. jerry - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing the postion of a partion in fdisk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:33:04PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: I have my FreeBSD partition as partition 1 and my ntfs as partition 2 but Vista insists that there is no suitable partion to install to (even though the ntfs partition is big enough)... after some research I found that vista absolutely insists that the ntfs partition be partition 1... how do I swap them and/or delete the ntfs one and renumber it so freebsd is in partion slot 2 (with nothing in 1 and then I can use fdisk to make a new slot 1) Well, you can use fdisk from the fixit shell to make your slice 2 (note the primary divisions are called 'slices' in FreeBSD) in to a FreeBSD type and then create your FreeBSD partitions in it and build FreeBSD filesystems there. I think I should of been a little more specific the physical layout is completely correct (i.e. the sizes, start/end tracks, etc.) the only problem is the logical numbering of the partitions/slices in the mbr idea of the table... namely I just need to relabel them not modify them in any way. Then, still using the fixit, use dump/restore to copy the contents of the FreeBSD filesystems over. Assuming the major slices are ad0s1 and ad0s2, then something like: mkdir /oldroot mount /ad0s1a /oldroot mkdir /newroot mount /ad0s2a /newroot cd /newroot dump 0af - / | restore -rf - That will get the root partition/filesystem. Do appropriately similar for the rest of the FreeBSD filesystems. Note that while in fixit, the running root (/) is in a memory filesystem which will go away after you reboot. So, those mount points you create (oldroot, newroot, etc) are temporary. Then use a utility such as gparted (freely downloadable as ISO) to convert the #1 slice into NTFS and install Vista there. You might be able to get FreeBSD's fdisk to do the convesion to NTFS, but I have never tried that. You would have to know the code number for it. jerry - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHg/RPjRvRjGmHRgQRAmAIAJ9ez7kulB5P94ZeVUsY7rrnDo3hLwCgjNCW m54xx08yDK3m7lXN5/xsQ84= =+9FU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing the postion of a partion in fdisk
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 05:08:15PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:33:04PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: I have my FreeBSD partition as partition 1 and my ntfs as partition 2 but Vista insists that there is no suitable partion to install to (even though the ntfs partition is big enough)... after some research I found that vista absolutely insists that the ntfs partition be partition 1... how do I swap them and/or delete the ntfs one and renumber it so freebsd is in partion slot 2 (with nothing in 1 and then I can use fdisk to make a new slot 1) Well, you can use fdisk from the fixit shell to make your slice 2 (note the primary divisions are called 'slices' in FreeBSD) in to a FreeBSD type and then create your FreeBSD partitions in it and build FreeBSD filesystems there. I think I should of been a little more specific the physical layout is completely correct (i.e. the sizes, start/end tracks, etc.) the only problem is the logical numbering of the partitions/slices in the mbr idea of the table... namely I just need to relabel them not modify them in any way. I don't think you can make slice 2 become slice 1. The system numbers them in order of appearance. This comes from BIOS standard usage. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing the postion of a partion in fdisk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 05:08:15PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:33:04PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: I have my FreeBSD partition as partition 1 and my ntfs as partition 2 but Vista insists that there is no suitable partion to install to (even though the ntfs partition is big enough)... after some research I found that vista absolutely insists that the ntfs partition be partition 1... how do I swap them and/or delete the ntfs one and renumber it so freebsd is in partion slot 2 (with nothing in 1 and then I can use fdisk to make a new slot 1) Well, you can use fdisk from the fixit shell to make your slice 2 (note the primary divisions are called 'slices' in FreeBSD) in to a FreeBSD type and then create your FreeBSD partitions in it and build FreeBSD filesystems there. I think I should of been a little more specific the physical layout is completely correct (i.e. the sizes, start/end tracks, etc.) the only problem is the logical numbering of the partitions/slices in the mbr idea of the table... namely I just need to relabel them not modify them in any way. I don't think you can make slice 2 become slice 1. The system numbers them in order of appearance. This comes from BIOS standard usage. 2 starts before 1 in my case?!??! % fdisk *** Working on device /dev/ad8 *** parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=969021 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=969021 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 62910540, size 913857525 (446219 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 7 (0x07),(OS/2 HPFS, NTFS, QNX-2 (16 bit) or Advanced UNIX) start 63, size 62910477 (30718 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 3 is: UNUSED The data for partition 4 is: UNUSED 2 - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHhDkOjRvRjGmHRgQRAr09AJ0TCHS+emo0rp0/UBNtHKE8CxxlBQCfTz3g AFWyXr9pArXzfBsGvfRFgUQ= =HZJJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
changing the postion of a partion in fdisk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have my FreeBSD partition as partition 1 and my ntfs as partition 2 but Vista insists that there is no suitable partion to install to (even though the ntfs partition is big enough)... after some research I found that vista absolutely insists that the ntfs partition be partition 1... how do I swap them and/or delete the ntfs one and renumber it so freebsd is in partion slot 2 (with nothing in 1 and then I can use fdisk to make a new slot 1) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHgu7wjRvRjGmHRgQRArSwAKCVAwIOK+D++dk22OTht+flBjhEtQCcC6oS lRchYlAYgb/6zn34iw2FoHQ= =DEp0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
